@ebon quarry Volcyy: go playground syntax highlighting I had to read up on what you meant with this, now I understand
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
unkempt ermine
sand goblet
Oh god, yeah, that's a real travesty
knotty beacon
Aren't they vehemently against it?
glass gorge
Chicken game is strong
ebon quarry
hahahahaha
knotty beacon
Like...NAZI against it? I remember reading up on that, I think.
glass gorge
I'm still hurt from seeing a naked floppy ejected, and several crushed.
Should .. I feel this bad?
ebon quarry
Syntax highlighting is for children 😤
sand goblet
Yeah they are
unkempt ermine
as I [Rob Pike] prefer to call it, spitzensparken blinkelichtzen.
Gotta level that shit up
unkempt ermine
looking good gdude :D
ebon quarry
I, Rob [Commander] Pike
bleak lintel
oo fancy
ebon quarry
also now I'm hungry smh
unkempt ermine
apparently commander pike will be in star trek discovery season 2
played by some dude named "Anson Mount"
is that even a real name?
sand goblet
Do you even wok, Bruh?
knotty beacon
He played the ex-confederate soldier on that AMC show that my brain can't remember the title of
ebon quarry
bisk would be proud
sand goblet
Can't stop the wok
unkempt ermine
nice!
unkempt ermine
no worries :D
knotty beacon
So that's probably how he got the gig
sand goblet
Wok and roll
bleak lintel
Wok around the clock
sand goblet
Wok on over
torn ridge
Wok on by?
sand goblet
Bring your sock and clock my rockin' wok stock shock
tulip palm
this is why i love you guys haha
torn ridge
you got this gdude, its just a wok in the park!
unkempt ermine
gdude walks into the club like whatup I got a big wok
bleak lintel
lmao
sand goblet
That song was hilarious for one reason and one reason only
And that is, how much it pissed off the daily mail
:P
sand goblet
Haha, brilliant
Hey @unkempt ermine, have you ever been to a wagamama?
We're thinking of visiting one
knotty beacon
It was 30s of a walk from my old job, so it was perfect
sand goblet
There's one in Dorchester and we'll be visiting there in September
It's hard to find Asian food in Ireland
tired osprey
whats a wagamama
unkempt ermine
it's a mama that wagas yo ass if you don't google it
tired osprey
no i dont trust google
torn ridge
its an excited female dog!
tired osprey
since it told me lies for 5 days
knotty beacon
Specializes in Ramen, if I'm not mistaken
unkempt ermine
@sand goblet I hope you enjoy it, I loved it
knotty beacon
I want to go to one, but I've never had one near me 😦
bleak lintel
Ohh wagamama is great
unkempt ermine
when we do python meetup, lets do it near a wagamama
so that we may go together and enjoy the feast
bleak lintel
There is one in Leeds at Trinity and it was great
knotty beacon
looks to see if there's one in Philly since he's going there today
sand goblet
Is it like a western restaurant or do they have those ticket machines?
unkempt ermine
ticket machines?
sand goblet
Sometimes ramen places do that
You pay at a machine, get a ticket
By the time you get to the front of the queue, your food is there
unkempt ermine
that was not my experience no, we ordered as we came in, and then they delivered the food to the table
bleak lintel
what about the non meat sushi
like the little seaweed things
with rice and cucumber
sand goblet
Not sure, never tried nori
bleak lintel
it is very nice
knotty beacon
I am relatively new to sushi myself
glass gorge
Looks good 👌🏾
knotty beacon
2-3 years now
Hooked
(Just ate it last night)
Had eel for the first time a couple weeks back
Usually stick to tuna, salmon, shrimp, crab
sand goblet
You ate Eel?
knotty beacon
It was great
sand goblet
Don't eat libraries, man
knotty beacon
Oh, lol
sand goblet
Don't eat the declaration of independence
Don't eat the laws of thermodynamics
That's not normal, that's not right
I think mom would hate the volume of squid and octopus they eat in Asia
proper tiger
sea food is great
tame terrace
all food was seafood when god created life. the primordial bouillabaisse
worn kite
everything with more than 4 limbs is a no no for me. Tentacles count towards that too.
tame terrace
technically the ocean is the real earth. if you think we got fast internet up here imagine what kinda shit they got down there, dude.
200 squigglybytes!
worn kite
sullen thorn
Can someone explain what usb over ip and ip over http are?
tired osprey
We should make Bisk cook sushi
worn kite
"cook"
bleak lintel
lmao
ebon quarry
lol
granite lake
I'm with you
tired osprey
You happy? @worn kite
granite lake
I want nuggets too
slate quail
relevant to shusi: https://youtu.be/nzwmVVut4jw
steel fox
Nah Lucy. Sushi is disgusting. You gotta cook the gross out of it
slate quail
D:
reef orchid
@steel fox Did you get the graph stuff done?
granite lake
reef orchid
Of course it was
steel fox
Had dict[node2] = {node2, weight} instead of {node1, weight}
Smh
As soon as I fixed that it gave the right tree on the small graph and big graph. Lul
reef orchid
I never would have found the bugs in mine if I didn't test the big graph
steel fox
Graphing algorithms 💤
reef orchid
At least I'm not graded on it. Practicing DS&A sucks
sullen thorn
Damnit guys I ask a serious question and y’all ask bisk to cook sushi smh
sullen thorn
Thnx 😃
steel fox
is there any dedicated host with atlanta data center with like $20/month prices or so
granite lake
Boi
Maybe digital ocean
@sullen thorn is this your homework?
I found this, it kinda relates and would give you the idea of it :
Access USB over TCP/IP. FlexiHub is the software designed to share USB over IP or TCP. You can share local USB and serial devices ...
dood
☝️
It's basically a device you can read files over a network via it's IP address I guess
sullen thorn
I have no homework, just read it somewhere and didn’t understand it
So it’s basically like access my usb keyboard through an IP address?
wooden kindle
Baked rolls are my favorite tbh
sand goblet
NoMachine can do that as well
granite lake
Yes. Not necessarily keyboards. Whatever device it is
sand goblet
Useful feature in some cases
granite lake
Damn my internet is tripping again
wild yarrow
pcp or acid?
sullen thorn
@sand goblet how is it useful?
Like ig it’s cool to be able to access my keyboard through the internet, but when is it actually useful
steel fox
Printers probably is the most useful case
sullen thorn
Is usb a protocol in the same way that http is?
wild yarrow
idk that i'd say yes to that....
so USB has different "protocols"
it has things like the MTP that M$ made
and then there's different ways to treat various things that use USB since it handles mass storage, audio/video devices, printers. it has different communication protocols depending on the device....
bleak lintel
USB is a binary protocol
HTTP (version 1) is a text protocol
version 2 is binary iirc
bleak lintel
A HTTP request is human readable
a USB payload is not human readable
Yeah IRC is a good example
wild yarrow
c:
wild yarrow
aw yeah
bleak lintel
Oh it'll be different between versions of USB won't it
bleak lintel
Yeah, like SuperSpeed
bleak lintel
interesting, reading through the USB 3.0 documentation, USB cables and devices might interfere with 2.4GHz networking
manic moat
Hello
wild yarrow
yo
bleak lintel
Hello there
manic moat
Excuse me if im wrong, but isnt typically usbs for mouses external hdd/ssd etc
bleak lintel
Yes
wild yarrow
that makes sense, i believe it. em interference is totally a thing that happens on modern cabling and wifi stuff
bleak lintel
Yeah that is true
wild yarrow
usb can also do video signals for stuff like monitors
bleak lintel
so from looking at this protocol usb is tcp but for hardware data transfer
manic moat
Oh yea
bleak lintel
lots of setup™
wild yarrow
that makes sense
bleak lintel
Status stage: Dummy IN or OUT transaction, which is probably for indicating the end of a control transfer exchange.
"probably"
thank
bleak lintel
This is very interesting though
tulip palm
moist-machine$ df -h | head -7 | tail -1
tmpfs 3.6G 3.6G 0 100% /tmp
explains the browser crashing :D
tulip palm
hell yeah
wild yarrow
c:
bleak lintel
I wonder what Thunderbolts protocol is like
wild yarrow
o.o
bleak lintel
because that is mega-fast
bleak lintel
it has more transmission pins from what I can see
wild yarrow
yeah, 40Gb/s (5GB/s) O.O
bleak lintel
Pretty impressive
wild yarrow
yee
bleak lintel
It looks like it uses a mix of USB and DisplayPort things
tulip palm
displayport's gotta be fast, surely
bleak lintel
wait, DisplayPort is only for display transmission
tulip palm
huh
bleak lintel
Oh okay, so, thunderbolt controllers transmit data over multiple lanes and it is de-multiplexed at the other end by a thunderbolt controller
wild yarrow
dp is super fast but yeah it only does stuff for displays
ooh, that's fancy
that explains its bandwidth, or part of it at least
bleak lintel
wew this is complex
Thunderbolt combines PCI Express (PCIe) and DisplayPort (DP) into two serial signals, and additionally provides DC power, all in one cable. Up to six peripherals may be supported by one connector through various topologies.
Since thunderbolt controllers are made by Intel though specs on how things are done are limited
bleak lintel
It is indeed
and apparently it was originally intended to be an optical technology
but with electrical cabling they could also provide power to connected devices
sometimes I wish Vivaldi would just work https://i.seph.club/tlvur.png
bleak lintel
I think this is a Linux bug
wild yarrow
oh
bleak lintel
and I think it is related to h264
bleak lintel
why does no one care about linux
wild yarrow
because it's GNU, so few businesses will put anything significant into it
it drove itself into a corner wit the GNU/GPL
bleak lintel
yeah true
wild yarrow
that and because companies keep stuff proprietary, open source drivers for commercial hardware is tricky
so it's a combination of the licensing, and how other corporations act; because they need to make money to pay their employees
and since Linux insists on being in a specific space that is abhorrent to most businesses for major contribution it kind of lurches along slowly.
that being said Linux is cool asf
and it sucks, but this is why we use licenses like MIT / BSD / Apache
tired osprey
can i do the gnu/linux copypasta now?
tired osprey
k
wild yarrow
👍
tired osprey
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
wild yarrow
yeah boiiiiiiiiiii :P
bleak lintel
nix why
wild yarrow
because it's funny
tired osprey
he told me to
wild yarrow
i didn't tell you, i said i didn't mind ;~;
bleak lintel
wait nix did you see the copypasta ap put in Stephen Nixon lmao
tired osprey
no
bleak lintel
go look at it
bleak lintel
lmao
wild yarrow
:P
tired osprey
@bleak lintel stop mobbing stallmans dream so much he is a sensitive boy
bleak lintel
hello everyone please leave nix alone. he is a sensitive boy, he is a sensitive boy...
wild yarrow
?
tired osprey
there is the copypasta joseph just did
with the sensitive boy about me
now i tried to get it to stallman level and joseph had to regress it again
wild yarrow
oh no ;~;
bleak lintel
sorry nix
wild yarrow
:P
bleak lintel
i mean stephen nixon is a group chat intended to meme about you
we just thought it would be polite to add you to the group
tired osprey
that fkin group was made to annoy me
wild yarrow
o.o
tired osprey
@bleak lintel if you want to excuse, finally dance your other dances
wild yarrow
:D
tulip palm
yes father
sullen thorn
I like how u also went into thunderbolt after usb 😃
wild yarrow
c:
sullen thorn
Don’t really have time to ask and then discuss responses, so glad u guys responded and I read it now 😃
Busy with holiday
wild yarrow
c:
tired osprey
omg
joseph
@bleak lintel if server wide video calls are enabled for everyone when we hit the next milestone can you do some dancing for the whole server?
tired osprey
niiiiice
tired osprey
what stuff?
tired osprey
something else?
bleak lintel
i might get some cool glasses
tired osprey
neat
wild yarrow
cool
bleak lintel
it is like a top ten channel crossed with stallman https://i.seph.club/rgx30.png
I love it
tame pier
Server-wide video is a thing?
bleak lintel
It's becoming a thing
There is a guy who looks at the changes in Discord canary code and he saw stuff mentioning guild video calls
bleak lintel
I doubt they'd introduce it if it was such a burden for just DM calls ¯_(ツ)_/¯
They did do a lot of experimentation with video transfer when video calling was in beta to get the lowest bandwidth usage
steel fox
@bleak lintel Wonder Woman outfit
sinful copper
could they be doing peer to peer connection for DM calls?
does web sockets support UDP?
bleak lintel
I don't think they do peer to peer since they always assure you that you connect via Discord servers and your IP is never exposed
bleak lintel
and no I don't think websockets use UDP, but the voice servers do
voice is not transmitted over websockets
sinful copper
how does voice work then
bleak lintel
They have a UDP protocol in place for voice transfer seperate to the gateway
sinful copper
in browser
tame pier
How does ordering work with UDP?
bleak lintel
in browser I can't remember how they do it
tame pier
Are they doing some higher-level tracking of the sequences?
sinful copper
@tame pier no reason you can't put a sequence number on each packet
sinful copper
you can even have acks and retry a few times, the benefit of udp for streaming protocols is that it doesn't mandate "retry forever or die" behavior, you can build your own level of reliability
bleak lintel
They use the RTP protocol for voice transfer, so sequence numbers are in the header https://i.seph.club/s6g3n.png
bleak lintel
implementing acks and retry is never necessary for voice data because otherwise you'll have failed payloads playing back in the wrong order
tulip palm
so guys on (almost) the topic of sockets and stuff, i've had another really shitty idea :D
bleak lintel
yeah 0x78 for version
but how they do voice connections is pretty well documented here https://discordapp.com/developers/docs/topics/voice-connections
sinful copper
well, i figured you just retry until it gets to the time the packet it should play and then give up
or send two copies of each packet
tame pier
Wow, that is some truly impressive documentation...
And they're sharing "internals"
I'm used to companies sharing next to nothing when it comes to technical detail
bleak lintel
Yeah their documentation is pretty good
sand goblet
If you're not signed in, Travis has this logo on the "People that have said nice things about us" page
Haha
tame pier
Lmao
tame pier
Where on the bottom
sand goblet
If you're not signed in it lists some languages
sand goblet
Haha
tame pier
That's going into my meme archive 😛
rough sapphire
glass gorge
WHAT IS THE FLOOR?!
lilac glade
rough sapphire
"AAAAAAAAAAAAA"
"CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALM DOWN"
glass gorge
Oh
Good to hear that the floor is well
I always spend a lot of time worrying if the floor is doing alright
glass gorge
Wanna make it weirder?
rough sapphire
No, I think it's going to get weirder anyway
But I don't think it will ever be as weird as the weirdest conversation I have ever had
tame pier
Python 3.6.5 (v3.6.5:f59c0932b4, Mar 28 2018, 17:00:18) [MSC v.1900 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import socket
>>> import base64
>>> s = socket.socket()
>>> s.bind(('localhost', 42000))
>>> s.listen(1)
>>> conn, addr = s.accept()
>>> print(addr)
('127.0.0.1', 38971)
>>> print(conn)
<socket.socket fd=444, family=AddressFamily.AF_INET, type=SocketKind.SOCK_STREAM, proto=0, laddr=('127.0.0.1', 42000), raddr=('127.0.0.1', 38971)>
>>> while True:
... data = conn.recv(4096)
... if not data: break
... print(base64.b64decode(data))
...
b'Networking channel? What a wonderful idea!'
Python 3.6.5 (v3.6.5:f59c0932b4, Mar 28 2018, 17:00:18) [MSC v.1900 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import socket
>>> import base64
>>> s = socket.socket()
>>> s.connect(('localhost', 42000))
>>> s.sendall(base64.b64encode(b"Networking channel? What a wonderful idea!"))
I was bored lol
tame pier
COUGH
tired osprey
there is already one?
tame pier
Yes
tired osprey
where
tired osprey
i dont keep track of gitlab since gdude introduced 2fa
tame pier
Dear god 2FA
tame pier
That was sarcasm
sand goblet
for contributors and staff
tame pier
2FA is smart
tame pier
I like not being Gentoo or Node
tired osprey
nothing bad happened to gentoo
tired osprey
they may have got hacked but nothing bad happened
proper dune
2fa is so much effort though, I have to always have my phone on hand
tame pier
Or have a Yubikey on your keychain or in a pocket
tired osprey
^^
sand goblet
Or use bitwarden
sand goblet
which is a password manager that also does 2fa
tame pier
The code ended up being shitty and not doing anything
tired osprey
yeah
tame pier
But if it was someone competent, it could've been very very bad
tired osprey
so nothing bad happened
proper dune
I can't do that once an hour when I go class to class in uni
tame pier
🤦
bleak lintel
nix gentoo did have an issue, if you built using the build scripts in repos, your system was recursively removed from the root
tame pier
xD
tired osprey
that is more messages than i have here
sand goblet
the possible intent is enough
tame pier
Possible? No, definite intent
They were just incompetent so it didn't actually delete all your files IIRC
tired osprey
so you think nobody would have recognized if bad code wouldve been introduced to the org?
tame pier
No, they probably wouldn't
Because you just clone the repo and run a build
How often do most people go to the github page and look at the activity and commits before just using something?
tired osprey
but they even recognized that non bad code
why shouldnt they recognize the bad code
tame pier
?
sand goblet
you have no idea what you're talking about, nix
any security issue is a problem
regardless of what actually happens as a result of it
that's like only locking your front door at night after someone steals your TV
wild yarrow
🤦
sand goblet
most people would make sure they don't get their TV stolen in the first place
sand goblet
yeah, well, not everyone avoids watching TV :P
tired osprey
its an analogy
tired osprey
why exactly should somebody even attempt to get malicious code in our gitlab
tame pier
Motives don't matter
wild yarrow
because TVs are pointlessly expensive for their shit response time, might as well get a decent larger monitor tbh.
also yes
intent doesn't matter, it's the damage that was done that matters
tame pier
Meant motives, sorry
sand goblet
the damage that was done doesn't matter either
tame pier
They could be some skiddie that's just trying a bunch of passwords from a dump
wild yarrow
it's like if you hit someone with your car, it doesn't matter if you meant or had motive to
you still did
probably lel
tame pier
It could be someone with a grudge against the server that went on the black markets and bought an account
sand goblet
it doesn't matter that you think nobody would want to push a virus to one of our repos
you aren't literally everyone else
tame pier
They might just mass delete issues and corrupt the site with racist text
Best case, we end up spending a week cleaning everything up and making sure there aren't any subtle/hidden problems
sand goblet
worst case, they push some malcious code to master on the bot repo, it gets deployed automatically, they steal all of our data, kick all the users and delete all the channels
wild yarrow
lel, that would not be the best
tired osprey
cant you deny direct pushes to master on gitlab?
wild yarrow
🍿 😂
sand goblet
you are not getting an exception from the policy because you can't push to master, nix
sand goblet
we need to push to master sometimes
tired osprey
why is that
wild yarrow
i mean..... that should be obvious
sand goblet
if you're asking that question, I have to question whether you understand project management at all :P
wild yarrow
right?
tame pier
Because making a branch, making a pull request, then merging in the pull request is unnecessary if you're just correcting a typo in the readme
sand goblet
sometimes you just need to get it out there instead of waiting 2 days for the review process
tame pier
On really large projects pushing to master directly isn't usually a good idea
But for anything small to medium sized, I think its acceptable
steel fox
I mean injecting malicious code into an app that handles chat of 6000 people is a pretty nice target @tired osprey
wild yarrow
haha
tame pier
In other news, about to install Kali on my old surface pro 2
tame pier
Har har
wild yarrow
lel
wild yarrow
oh clay i ran into a mono white Karn token meme deck. it was memes. but it was super slow, like i had garbage draws for a 5 or 6 turns and suddenly 10/10s every turn O.O. i guess that's what we call a recovery lel.
lunar jetty
I have a good idea for a game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K9iHyZqgI8
So heres the concept it's based off of
these lyric videos
In the game
There will be a editor to "chart" the words to the exact point of them being said in the song
and the syllables
but anyways
you gotta move your mouse to the next word right when it's being said
instead of the instant changes, it will fade in slowly in the background
is that a good idea?
like this
tame pier
So kinda like a rhythm game?
wild yarrow
will it have memes?
steel fox
if it doesn't have cookin by the book im not interested
tame pier
That's mobile tho
lunar jetty
still
tame pier
Us PC folks need something!
lunar jetty
I can get sued or whatever
tame pier
Not if they haven't patented it I think
steel fox
ot legal-advice
lunar jetty
oh
wait
it's not on the app store anymore
YAY
now
uh
idk what to do now
someones gonna steal my idea tho
before I can actually program
slate quail
!otname add legal-advice
royal lakeBOT
:ok_hand:
lunar jetty
I need to come up with a name
and a concept
hmm
Syllable Chase?
Nah
Would that be good?
Sorry, the kerning sucks
and the ys on the 4th line are cut off
tame pier
So you're trying to follow the text?
lunar jetty
Yeah
lunar jetty
Easy will give you more time to move to it
The harder modes will be more strict
Now imagine this concept on this youtube video, follow the lyrics with the mouse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K9iHyZqgI8
would it be a good idea?
or nah
tame pier
Yesssssssssssssss it's installing
Aborted, plugged in USB drive directly, then went with text installer instead of graphical
tame pier
Well fuck it's still booting into windows
and I can't figure out how to get grub onto it
tried doing some stuff from a live boot with grub-install
Might just eff it all and install Ubuntu
Maybe I could install BlackArch and get server cred
cerulean basin
I miss being able to install arch completely from memory 😦
i felt so smart once I memorised it even though there really isnt much to it
cerulean basin
I could try to fix my arch vm
I think I broke it when I migrated it to another drive
I think it has something to with vmwares shared folder thing
which was a bitch to figure out on arch
steel fox
I have it on ubuntu
tame pier
So the question is (if this installs and grub fucking works): KDE or XFCE?
tame pier
I used xfce with Kali on a Chromebook years ago
cerulean basin
sorry i know im not helping 😄
cerulean basin
if youre feeling adventurous
tame pier
Indeed I am
cerulean basin
i think not
i also had kde on a macbook from 2011
surprisingly responsiveness was decent
never ended up using it though cause I couldnt get wifi drivers to work
tulip palm
i used KDE for a while. i liked it a lot, but it was just too bloaty so i wasn't completely satisfied
cerulean basin
you can configure the amount of bloat but i can understand that sentiment
tame pier
Etcher got stuck, not windows won't see any USB drives
time to reboot
Also a ton of ssh-agent processes...
tame pier
Wow now it's not booting into this drive
wild yarrow
;~;
wild yarrow
you should install gentoo
tame pier
Right now I should just give up
Won't matter what distro I try since goddamn fucking GRUB isn't getting installed
wild yarrow
that's quitter talj
tame pier
Not sure if I want to try one of those on a system that's already difficult to get Linux on...
glass gorge
Hi 
lunar jetty
wtf...
tame terrace
I think Java as a language is fine, but it seems like it has a tendency to be written in this really old-world kind of way where everything has to have an interface for no reason and method names are always entire god damn sentences.
it's just.. ugly.
lunar jetty
soItsKindaLikeThisMaybe ?
glass gorge
If you started doing programming in java and using their visual like editor.. emh BlueJ? It'll start to look like that fast :P
tame terrace
but I bet if a bunch of python programmers got together and wrote some stuff in Java it would be fine
where I work, we have the opposite
tame terrace
a bunch of java programmers wrote most of our python
glass gorge
That explains a few of the snippets ive seen lemon 😂
lunar jetty
Lets hope no one patents my idea, then sues me when I create mine
tame terrace
so it's full of getters and setters and multiple inheritence and all sorts of evil design patterns
ideas are a dime a dozen
an idea won't get you rich. an execution might.
lunar jetty
I know
but if someone who knows how to program steals it and then makes a commercial game
then I can't make mine commercial
glass gorge
You could theme it differently
lunar jetty
But
tame terrace
just don't worry about it. if someone else makes it, you'll make something else.
lunar jetty
if I have evidence that I came up with it before them, then can I own the rights to it?
tame terrace
there's always another idea.
lunar jetty
or can they still sue me
tame terrace
someone who is motivated enough, or has enough money, can sue you no matter what
the whole system is fucky
glass gorge
Just look at Guitar hero, and Rock band etc
tame terrace
probably, yes
lunar jetty
Because I'll have to hire an attorney etc
tame terrace
better to not attract their attention.
lunar jetty
But if he's an asshole
he won't care
rip
I need to come up with a theme for the game
tame terrace
the games industry is a pain in the ass. but don't worry about all that yet. you still got a long way to go before you'll be publishing any commercial games.
lunar jetty
because currently here's the concept theme
It's not planned to be a commercial game at first
First it will be like "Clone Hero"
If you guys played that game before
Then I might make it like Sound Dodger and the way it implements songs.
But yeah, the current style looks too
uh
I don't know how to say it
tame terrace
yeah, so
lunar jetty
OOO, and the main menu will have a random song playing from your setlist at a random part of the song, only 30 seconds tho, muffled and it has lyrics in the background with a fake mouse cursor following them, and the lyrics would be at 50% opacity
Ok after reading through my messages I sound like a very childish person lmao
Random bursts of ideas
tame terrace
my advice is to save all of these ideas in your document, put that document in a folder on your computer (or in the cloud) called game design documents, and then forget about it and spend years learning how to code and how to do gamedev.
keep saving any new ideas you get, too
most gamedevs will have literally dozens of game design documents
many probably quite brilliant
lunar jetty
I have ideas
but I can't seem to form them into words
Like
I can't just jolt down an idea and not have it sound complicated when it isn't
tame terrace
I did this course a while back
uses C#, Unity, and teaches stuff like "how to make a formal game design document" or "how to come up with or develop ideas for a game"
might be something to consider
it's far from everything you need but it's a start
lunar jetty
After looking at how many things I need to know, it makes me kinda feel like I won't ever get any shit done
tame terrace
and don't bother paying for it. you can audit them all
tame terrace
it's what they call it when someone participates in a class or a course without earning an actual diploma or any credit
they're just there to learn
lunar jetty
tame terrace
and game dev certificates from coursera will be worthless to your career anyway.
no, you have to enroll in the individual courses
not the whole specialization
like, the first course is https://www.coursera.org/learn/game-development
there are probably better ones, too
anyway considering doing some shit like that once you're comfortable with python and wanna get started with C#
lunar jetty
I think my game would help people with aiming in FPSs
Like to snap instantly to someones head in CSGO
tulip palm
found my old android tablet, currently running on a discord version that's older than this server :D
glass gorge
oof
granite lake
Lol
tulip palm
when files could only be sent individually and there was no such thing as channel categories
granite lake
Tb to when discord was a baby
tulip palm
my discord cache showed messages from like 2016
because that's when this version's from.
granite lake
Woah
forest swan
I couldn't get discord on my tablet because the android version wasn't high enough 🤔
tulip palm
haha :D
tired osprey
so my friend just sent me this, not exactly sure what to think of it
sand goblet
wat
tired osprey
yes
i wonder what flag that is
apparently galway county won the All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship for the first time in 29 years
whatever that is
sand goblet
you've never heard of hurling?
you have a stick that kinda looks like a hockey stick
and a ball
and you play in a field
with two goals
Hurling is the male category
Camogie is the female one
same game, but because of the difference in body types, it wouldn't be fair to mix
it can get pretty violent
tired osprey
i see
rain spindle
async with open("cogs.json"), "r") as JsonFile:
missing a (?
rain spindle
@glass gorge just puedo codr
My question is can a read and write to that JSON with async safely?
glass gorge
Was unsure of the context, so jumped for it doesn't work :P
rain spindle
Sorry about that hahaha
glass gorge
I believe open would have to implement the async versions of the context manager
so unless they do, no
rain spindle
@glass gorge ok... So while I'm not using rethinkDB (I need better implementation) what can I do in the meantime?
glass gorge
Opening a json file is not that blocking that it matters
unless that's a huge file
like 2-3 seconds to open it huge
languid kelp
(warning: do not take this message seriously) PYTHON IS FOR NOOBS
sand goblet
!tempmute @languid kelp 6h Consistent and frequent baiting
royal lakeBOT
:ok_hand: muted @languid kelp until Sun, 05 Aug 2018 19:58:48 GMT (Consistent and frequent baiting).
rain spindle
Lmaoooooo
10/10
@glass gorge I was warned by a friend that you don't wanna read and write to a file out of sync multiple times
I.e I read and write to it everytime a command is run
sand goblet
Yeah you don't
glass gorge
Uhm
sand goblet
You should read it once
glass gorge
Yeah in that case it's bad
sand goblet
Maintain an internal representation of the file contents
instead of reading it every time
and just write that back to file when needed
rain spindle
@sand goblet so store it as a object?
And read/write it when you end and start the bot?
Ok.
glass gorge
For instance yeah
Maybe have a super secret "update my attribute" command you can use if you have to
rain spindle
@glass gorge not really needed, I store users locations and inventory
glass gorge
Sounds fine then
rain spindle
Cool!
Actually I have one more problem .....
I have a list which stores which points have been mined out.....
The world is 750 by 500
So you can imagine how big that file is gonna get
Any ideas on a solution?
glass gorge
I just realized how much in depth stardew valley is
rain spindle
@glass gorge so would you say a mix of JSON, numpy and rethinkdb is the ideal solution
JSON for settings, numpy for the mining list, and rethink for the buildings data and inventory data
glass gorge
Idm too much as long as it's not during a conversation
Like id ping you for a response, and ping you while chatting with you
glass gorge
Hoster of the sevtech server I occasionally play on posted this 😂https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453232648584953886/475717822622859274/unknown.png
Something... went wrong
ebon quarry
ah
glass gorge
But dem chucks, they go flying
sand goblet
yeah that happens
glass gorge
He did have a bluescreen earlier
sand goblet
you get bored of that bug after the first 300 times
glass gorge
may that be the cause
Never seen it frankly
I've seen chunks get removed
But never moved from A to B
sand goblet
They're not moved
Corrupted chunks that got regenerated with a different version of the world generator
glass gorge
riight
tired osprey
rough sapphire
Nice😂
sonic trellis
Lol
sand goblet
tbh, I bitch about apple's hardware and pricing a lot
but how someone can support a company that is run with such an unsustainable business model
steel fox
I’ve used the same iPhone cable since they swapped from 30 pin and it has no fraying
sinful copper
they switched to softer rubber at some point
i've gone through a couple macbook chargers
steel fox
Anker is a pretty durable brand that might be worth checking out if you get that a lot random
undone solstice
And their bluetooth earphones are great
torn ridge
+1 for anker here!
tame pier
Anker is great, been using their products for many years
Including a vacuum oddly enough that is actually brilliant
steel fox
yes
tame pier
What do you mean
steel fox
mass gathering
tame pier
eyy
tame pier
Bye
languid kelp
tame terrace
@sand goblet
steel fox
can it really be unsustainable if they made $1Trillion off it?
tame terrace
I agree with a lot of that bitching but come the fuck on. how can a 42 year old company that grows larger every year and has the largest revenue stream of any IT company in the world be considered unsustainable
it's not just provably sustainable, it's possibly the world's most sustainable IT company.
tame pier
They're buying back their own stock with their hundreds of billions of stockpiled cash
sand goblet
@tame terrace I'm talking about the deprecation of old devices and expectation that people will buy a new one every year
tame terrace
okay, so you're making a prediction that they will not?
sand goblet
Their business model is designed around it
sand goblet
For making money, yes
tame terrace
yes? you don't think money factors into the sustainability of a business model?
sand goblet
I'm talking about waste/use of materials
sand goblet
Like, my mediapad here
It's fairly out of date but it still gets updates
I still get the odd new feature and I get all of the Google security fixes
Apple does release iOS updates for some of their previous models, but they're mostly not feature updates, they're small fixes or CPU limiters
sand goblet
Yeah, I remember the furore around some of the updates slowing down the phone
steel fox
you mean when the batteries were failing and shutting off the phones because it couldn't supply the voltage needed so they made an optional feature to underclock the cpu?
languid kelp
i'm speaking out of turn but does anybody heard of a job for me yet
sand goblet
Considering the kind of things you post here, I'd be surprised if anyone was looking out for a job for you :P
languid kelp
not everyone is a bully 😄
languid kelp
woah
sand goblet
All you do is post flame bait, I dunno what reaction you expect from that
languid kelp
@sand goblet i vehemently disagree with your offensive accusation
steel fox
oh and then offered completely free battery replacements a year past warranty date for failing batteries
languid kelp
i have only posted "flame bait" maybe twice, in a very light hearted manner
sand goblet
It's just a joke, bro
languid kelp
oh okay
sand goblet
No, that was me being sarcastic
languid kelp
wait
rough sapphire
sand goblet
I'm imitating you
sand goblet
It's like rain, on your wedding day?
steel fox
or a free cab ride when youve already paid
sand goblet
It's the good advice, that you just didn't take
languid kelp
rain on your wedding day is actually not as nice or bad as it sounds
sand goblet
Huh, isn't that ironic
languid kelp
stop
sand goblet
Don'tcha think?
Okay but seriously
These are supposed to be discussion channels
I know a lot of people mistake off-topic channels for places to shitpost, etc
languid kelp
i don't think too many people do, maybe i'm not here enough to see that
sand goblet
Most of our regulars are used to the policy
At least, I hope so, some of them have been here a while :P
languid kelp
if you're so clever, why don't you have a link to your github in your profile?
steel fox
theres never any shitposting in OT channels
glass gorge
Some people don't need to advertise their work, it gets found by the quality of it c:
sand goblet
Why would I link github in my profile?
languid kelp
its a feature
sand goblet
Besides, I'd need to break the discord ToS to do that
languid kelp
sounds like odd ToS
sand goblet
You can't automate your account at all
languid kelp
its not about automating the account. its just like linking your twitch
rough sapphire
glass gorge
rough sapphire
@languid kelp https://gyazo.com/38b21dddb17e0f2a58ac787facd295e9
glass gorge
Submit a suggestion to discord then
sand goblet
I'd prefer gitlab tbh
meager slate
Why
hard quail
Thus far the github buyout hasnt affected me at all or many others. I think it was exaggerated by a loud few convincing the minority
Majority oof
sand goblet
The buyout didn't really make me like gitlab more
I already liked gitlab more
It's the obvious choice if you want a featureful platform
meager slate
I much prefer the UI of github
zinc sail
self hosting for not tens of thousands of dollars is a big plus
sand goblet
yeah, the self-hosting bonus is nice too
tame terrace
I also prefer the github UI, and gitlab is frequently slow or even offline ever since we moved. but gitlab does have a bunch of lovely features that github does not.
and considering only like half a percent of github repos were moved, I don't think the majority was convinced.
granite lake
github is still in the lead rn
sand goblet
Gitlab's move to GCP is supposed to solve the speed/stability issues
I guess we'll see, it's in like 5 days
granite lake
I just ran sudo rm -rf $HOME
Hope nothing bad happened
😂
oof
Just got a fresh cloudshell
cerulean basin
i feel like recruiters on this one side dont event read my resume
ive gotten 2 offers for lead positions
not offers but like
theyre trying to bring a listing to my attention
glass gorge
cerulean basin
and then ive gotten a 3rd
glass gorge
How's your resume structured?
cerulean basin
my resume is skills -> education -> experience -> projects
glass gorge
Skimming the top and take the rest within interview
zinc sail
What job level is this?
cerulean basin
i think for this website theyre recruiters that are hired by the companies posting the listings
and they try to get people interested in the jobs?
idk
glass gorge
Who knows
glass gorge
Ask em next time, where'd you find me or why are you reaching out to me
cerulean basin
well I signed up on their website
and I did get one phone interview through them
but that was for a listing I actually applied to
basically the recruiter helped set up the interview and would ask me how it went after etc
glass gorge
Just to not leave ELA in the dark, but it's still entry level right? 😅
cerulean basin
oh yeah
glass gorge
Ah
cerulean basin
just saying not sure why they reach out to me about senior positions
Hi Mark,
I’ve got a great role you may be interested in: Head of Engineering
Please reply with an updated resume or apply directly through the link if it sounds like a good match.
If you’re not looking and know someone else who may be a fit, feel free to forward them this email.
Looking forward to your response!
zinc sail
I was just curious because it can affect how the resume is laid out