#voice-chat-text-0
gentle flint
glad sandal
dino
crystal fox
plucky mural
oh god
gentle flint
crystal fox
gentle flint
rugged root
dire folio
hey @rugged root
sweet lodge
Didn't you install 3.10? Why are you trying to use 3.8?
You'll need to make a new interpreter with 3.10.
Also, now that other people are talking, we should get out of their way
If you still need help, please see #โ๏ฝhow-to-get-help for instructions on how to move to the help channels
plucky mural
Didn't you install 3.10? Why are you trying to use 3.8?
You'll need to make a ne...
how do i make a new interpreter with 3.10?
rugged root
Bisk is having a bit of a conniption fit. Mind typing in #code-help-voice-text, guys?
sweet lodge
That works too
boreal spear
check_call([executable, "pip", "install", "cx_Oracle", "-t ."])
from sys import executable
from os import makedirs, chdir
sturdy panther
Need "-m", "pip"
sweet lodge
!code
wise cargoBOT
crystal fox
```
boreal spear
try:
from cx_Oracle import makedsn, connect
except Exception as e:
if "No module named 'cx_Oracle'" == str(e):
from subprocess import check_call
from sys import executable
from os import makedirs, chdir
makedirs('temp')
chdir('temp')
check_call([executable, "pip", "install", "cx_Oracle", "-t ."])
dire folio
i have a script that installs packages at import if it does not exist
not safe work work though
๐
boreal spear
sweet lodge
Whatever happened to pip install -r requirements.txt?
sturdy panther
[executable, "-m", "pip", ...]
woeful salmon
Invoke-Expression (aka run the thing after it as if it was typed as a command) can be used to run a command in a powershell script
boreal spear
check_call([executable, "-m", "pip", "install", "cx_Oracle", "-t", "."]
check_call([executable, "-m", "pip", "install", "cx_Oracle", "-t ."]
crystal fox
`
sweet lodge
-t, --target <dir> Install packages into <dir>. By default this will not replace existing files/folders in <dir>. Use --upgrade to replace existing packages in <dir> with new versions.
!code
wise cargoBOT
sweet lodge
@rugged root - is there a tag for inline code snippets? (Single backticks)
rugged root
There isn't
crystal fox
yes there is
crystal fox
oh right as in on the bot
rugged root
Right
boreal spear
check_call([executable, "-m", "pip", "install", "-t .", "cx_Oracle"]
What about Contributors for adding that?
That would be much better to be remembered for than the UwU thing
woeful salmon
i know you people are saying oracle but i keep hearing arco
sturdy panther
Yucky vendor lock-in!
dire folio
from importlib import util
import subprocess
import sys
class PipFinder:
@classmethod
def find_spec(cls, name, path, target=None):
print(f"Module {name!r} not installed. Attempting to pip install")
cmd = f"{sys.executable} -m pip install {name}"
try:
subprocess.run(cmd.split(), check=True)
except subprocess.CalledProcessError:
return None
return util.find_spec(name)
sys.meta_path.append(PipFinder)
try:
from cx_Oracle import makedsn, connect
except Exception as e:
if "No module named 'cx_Oracle'" == str(e):
from subprocess import check_call
from sys import executable
from os import makedirs, chdir
makedirs('temp')
chdir('temp')
check_call([executable, "-m", "pip", "install", "-t .", "cx_Oracle"])
@rugged root do you know if I can safely use isopropanol to clean the trackball mouse?
dire folio
In a nutshell, DevOps Engineers are ops-focused engineers who solve development pipeline problems. Site Reliability Engineers are development-focused engineers who solve operational/scale/reliability problems
amber raptor
but this is bullshit to do all the things on the left, you do need to do things on the right
woeful salmon
rabbit since you use powershell you got any powershell modules you can recommend? i've started going through psgallery looking for useful ones or just ones that make your experience nicer in the shell (z, Terminal-Icons, PSfzf, etc)
amber raptor
Az modules
woeful salmon
its hard to find any recommendations
amber raptor
don't pretty up your shell, it won't be portable
gentle flint
@dire folio about the ethanol
it's called rectified spirit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectified_spirit
everclear is an example
sturdy panther
"Django? I can pray for you!"
dire folio
<@!172395097705414656> about the ethanol
it's called rectified spirit
https://en...
thanks ๐
woeful salmon
don't pretty up your shell, it won't be portable
i'm doing it on my personal pc ๐
gentle flint
in Swedish it's called lรคkarsprit or finsprit
not sure about Norwegian
amber raptor
Azure has had AzureAD outages that have cripple everyone
woeful salmon
personal pc? o-o Personal Personal computer lmao
dire folio
<@!172395097705414656> about the ethanol
it's called rectified spirit
https://en...
this is illeagal in Norway, only hostpitals and doctors are alowed to get it
amber raptor
i'm doing it on my personal pc ๐
Powershell is designed to write scripts, you care about your IDE
woeful salmon
yeah i know its just preference
i have everything more useful for productivity done through existing modules / scripts that i made and set alias for in my profile
but i still like making my shell look nice at home ๐คทโโ๏ธ
also z and PSfzf do more than just make it pretty they just make life a big easier for moving directories without knowing the entire path (z) and fuzzy finding PSfzf
dire folio
!server
wise cargoBOT
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dire folio
!source
wise cargoBOT
dire folio
!source server
wise cargoBOT
woeful salmon
@gentle flint i would recommmend you use either a predefined colorscheme or use something like axe dev tools (or just firefox cuz it has builtin accesibility tools) to make sure you have enough contrast and make it accessible ๐
to people with color blindness and other similar things
gentle flint
rugged root
@cobalt fractal GOD DAMN IT CHRIS
cobalt fractal
eh?
rugged root
I was literally about to do it
cobalt fractal
!server
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rugged root
So mad
cobalt fractal
ah lol yea, only #bot-commands and #dev-contrib show extended details
rugged root
Right
sweet lodge
You can delete remote branches from PyCharm
rugged root
@whole bear I could hear you
dire folio
dire folio
whole bear
@gentle flint u use debian right?
gentle flint
yes
whole bear
can you show me your workspace
gentle flint
Reiniging
Ontvetting
Reinigingsmiddel voor elektronica
flat sentinel
e
whole bear
you italian @gentle flint ?
gentle flint
Dutch
whole bear
i read ur description and thought you were italian
gentle flint
gentle flint
i read ur description and thought you were italian
the description is Italian
rugged root
Freshens while it fills
gentle flint
but I am not
whole bear
ye so it seems
sweet lodge
Never used Docker?
gentle flint
not actively
woeful salmon
๐ on linux you install docker engine and compose separately
on windows you get everything in 1 package with a pretty gui to manage it all
its 1 of the few dev related things which is easier to get on windows
sweet lodge
Both
whole bear
what is docker for
sweet lodge
But on the newer versions of Docker, compose is builtin
woeful salmon
really? ๐ฎ
woeful salmon
oh ๐ฎ i thought that was for windows only for some reason
sweet lodge
what is docker for
I can take a copy of my program, and put it inside a box (container) and give that box (container) to Docker, and Docker will run it for me
If it breaks, and messes everything up, I can just throw away that box (container) and make a new one
sweet lodge
You can also use it to have multiple copies of the same program at the same time
And you design everything you want inside the box (container), so you give the already setup box (container) to someone else, and it's almost guaranteed to just workโข
whole bear
I can take a copy of my program, and put it inside a box (`container`) and give ...
why is that useful
woeful salmon
@dire folio
path is not so much a problem as long as py is used on windows (doesn't come with the microsoft store version)
it will look for your installed python executables on all common install locations i believe
rugged root
Right, and I will 10000000% bitch about the fact that they don't push that you should use the py launcher on Windows
Like
That should be in the installer
flat sentinel
sweet lodge
why is that useful
Various reasons
Since Docker runs your program, other people only have to install Docker, they don't have to follow any installation instructions, because you're giving them a box (container), that already has everything set up
If you break something, you only break your box (container), not your entire computer
If you want to have a production version and a test version of your program, you can just make another box (container) and now you have two
woeful salmon
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/prefers-reduced-motion
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/hover
^ there's also other newer useful media queries that everyone should use
whole bear
who the fuck uses chrome
rugged root
gentle flint
@dire folio
The only way I found to tell Chromium to prefer the dark color scheme is to use "--force-dark-mode" flag when launching it.
rugged root
!tvban 900103657373196299 2d Constantly having little fart sound effects during conversations is disruptive and unappreciated. If you decide to return, make sure your behavior has been corrected or you will permanently lose voice privileges.
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied voice ban to @whole bear until <t:1639254893:f> (1 day and 23 hours).
woeful salmon
@peak copper my eyesight is getting weaker and i can't C# anymore ๐ฆ
lol
joking btw
but ye see sharp makes me think C# everytime now
whole bear
not funny
woeful salmon
not funny
to me it is๐คทโโ๏ธ
and i do have weak eyesight but its been that way since i was like 14 and not even programming yet never got better or worse
whole bear
damn bro that's crazy
woeful salmon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1kyIUZgzqo ๐ vs code now added feature to highlight invisible unicode characters
noice
!e
printโ("hello wold")
@woeful salmon :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File "<string>", line 1
002 | printโ("hello wold")
003 | ^
004 | SyntaxError: invalid non-printable character U+200B
thick sedge
!e
wise cargoBOT
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
leaden coral
@woeful salmon you're from India?
sturdy panther
Petition to call it "seagull" instead.
woeful salmon
<@128363483828977664> you're from India?
yup
somber heath
I've mine turned off. So. You know. I get all the bitcoin lottery messages.
All of them.
Which is to say, none at all.
Because mwawhaha.
rugged root
It converts something to an integer, or a whole number
whole bear
thanks
rugged root
So you can give it a float or a string and so long as it could be an integer, it will cast it into one
Yep
somber heath
"Tighten the IT security at your firm with Pennywise Security Solutions. Audit your employees' security awareness with our patented fake-phishing screamscare technology. Pennywise Security Solutions. Beep beep, Richie."
We had a special visitor, today. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/834168996667457577/918711002462314537/e2.JPG?width=1004&height=667
Mm.
sturdy panther
Random problem. I always thought the word "apartment" has two P-s...
maiden grotto
One message removed from a suspended account.
quaint oyster
hi
maiden grotto
One message removed from a suspended account.
One message removed from a suspended account.
One message removed from a suspended account.
somber heath
Hm. Okay, so it was in a Sims 1 expansion.
quaint oyster
maybe, what is your issue?
rugged root
somber heath
We have quite a few different species of ant.
A number of them that you wouldn't want biting you.
Which is why we have echidnas. See above.
SimulANT?
Robin Williams' playthrough of the creature creator.
keen shell
alder lake
somber heath
@woeful salmonI'm so in the same boat. I truly don't give a shit.
Plus, with the relatively recent Australian cheating scandals in cricket, it's not like it's much to be proud of.
gloomy vigil
Plus, with the relatively recent Australian cheating scandals in cricket, it's n...
its not recent it has been there for years with umpires
somber heath
I don't follow it. So the last time I heard about it it when someone went out of their way to tell me about it. That was some time ago.
I'm doing stuff while listening.
Buzz is fun. More is...just...don't.
mild agate
LOLz
rugged root
somber heath
Trurkey.
rugged root
somber heath
Straddle.
Shouldn't ride elephants.
Their vertebrae aren't designed for it.
No, elephants.
No, but, as I understand it, elephants have these fort of flangey fan spine things sticking up from their spine
and people sitting on them all the time can hurt them
Absent-minded clicking.
lul
brb
Eweniversity. Maaa!
ripe salmon
m india too!
somber heath
Kid knee beans.
"Lift with your knees, kids."
"Ahh! My knee beans!"
Car men sandy ego.
forest zodiac
sweet lodge
Yesterday afternoon my boss said that he "probably wants to make some changes to the DNS soon".
This morning the production DNS records are gone
And he was supposed to be here two hours ago, but he's still not in yet
And it's a small business, he wants to be in control, etc... and he won't give me access to manage the DNS
So... hope he gets in soon?
molten pewter
tropic gull
import sys
sys.stdout = open("script_output.txt", "w")
sys.stdout.close()
tropic gull
my code just deosnt run when add this to my script
sometimes it freezes or crasesh my pc
rugged root
tropic gull
it doesnt give any error there's nothing in the output terminal
rugged root
sweet lodge
d100 is better
rugged root
woeful salmon
rugged root
!projects
wise cargoBOT
sweet lodge
And now for your daily dose of Tom Scott
rugged root
And now for your daily dose of Tom Scott
Inject the Tom Scott into your veins
sturdy panther
Someone needs coffee.
rugged root
Is it you?
sturdy panther
I am not the one yawning!
rugged root
I wasn't yawning I was stretching
sweet lodge
"stretching"*
rugged root
Oh hush
sturdy panther
Mandatory xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1205/
sturdy panther
Is this like.. a daily conversation?
sweet lodge
yes
We must convert everyone to the holy ways of vim
We must convince them to renounce their evil GUI ways
@rugged root - Are you ready to convert
rugged root
sturdy panther
Then you don't need to look up how to exit Vim.
tropic gull
import sys
sys.stdout = open("script_output.txt", "w")
print("hello")
sys.stdout.close()
why does this not giving any output on console
it does save the output in script_output.txt
sweet lodge
https://tenor.com/t6m8.gif
May God forgive you
woeful salmon
Set-Alias vim "C:\Program Files\Git\usr\bin\vim.exe"
You're redirecting stdout to a file
tropic gull
how can i redirect the output to a file and also show it on console
sturdy panther
It is like winkey+ for global hotkeys and ctrl+ for window local hotkeys, I guess.
sweet lodge
how can i redirect the output to a file and also show it on console
You could use something like this:
f = open("file.txt", "a")
def print_to_file_and_stdout(text, file):
print(text)
file.write(text)
print_to_file_and_stdout("hello", f)
rugged root
May God forgive you
no u
rugged root
https://vim-adventures.com/
Yeah but you have to pay for the full version right?
tropic gull
You could use something like this:
```py
f = open("file.txt", "a")
def print_t...
i am using print("hello") as a example for my situation, my actual code is much longer
molten pewter
rugged root
I know you can redirect print but I don't know if you can send it to two places
sweet lodge
i am using print("hello") as a example for my situation, my actual code is much ...
You can use that function in code of any length
There's not a way that I know of to have print go to two places at once.
If you don't redirect in Python, you can use PowerShell's Tee-Object to do this [in PowerShell]
wise cargoBOT
sweet lodge
Example: PS C:> python script.py | Tee-Object -FilePath file.txt
fading chasm
I started with ML and stuff about 2 years back, but I am still at a stand point about if it would really be helpful ahead.
I mean, its really so vast. I just feel I cant cover up everything.
any opinion on this?
rugged root
It really depends on what you're interested in. If you're focus is on data science and the like, could also look into things like numpy, pandas, and possibly other statistics and graph based stuff
If you're curious about web stuff, there's always flask, django or even just getting your hands into JS (which isn't a bad option anyway)
Always good to diversify your knowledge
fading chasm
I have a general idea on them(np, pandas, matplotlib), I have worked on Tensorflow and sklearn. But its really tough to know all the techniques of ML and..
moreover, I do have knowledge from those courses and books, but then I have no idea of how these are being used in real industry
IF they are even being used in the industry
rugged root
Fair. I personally wouldn't have good knowledge on that (I'm a hobbyist, not a programmer by trade), but the folks in #data-science-and-ml and #career-advice might have better insight
fading chasm
Ouh. Thanks a lot actually. I needed bit advice on the career front ๐
rugged root
@brisk crater Check out #voice-verification, that'll tell you what you need to know
!charinfo ; ;
wise cargoBOT
woeful salmon
!e
printโ("hello wold")
@woeful salmon :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File "<string>", line 1
002 | printโ("hello wold")
003 | ^
004 | SyntaxError: invalid non-printable character U+200B
That's cool that it calls that out
wise cargoBOT
@woeful salmon :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
3.10.0 (default, Nov 17 2021, 16:09:02) [GCC 8.3.0]
@simple dawn #voice-verification
@leaden coral You appear than disappear a lot. Like a ninja
leaden coral
Ohh sorry mistaken happen now
leaden coral
๐
leaden coral
No no it's cool
How do you become great at coding?
rugged root
Practice practice practice.
Learn how to research and what kind of terms you should use for finding things
Learn how to read documentation so that you can better appreciate what a library has for you to use
When in doubt, ask. A lot of people get frustrated or prideful, thinking that they SHOULD know this and that it'd be embarassing to ask. Never hesitate.
leaden coral
Yes I try to improve myself, and many thanks for your reply and valuable time
rugged root
Any time!
rugged root
Not a lot, honestly. Not as much as I'd like
I do this as a hobby, so I just kind of have to do it when I can between work and what not
leaden coral
Not a lot, honestly. Not as much as I'd like
Ohh its means You're on job ?your Python developer?
rugged root
Nope, I don't program as a job. I'm administrative support at an accounting firm. So I do clerical work (things like scanning documents, paperwork, etc), I deliver tax and payroll documents to our clients, and I'm also our in-house IT
So I wear many hats, but programming isn't something I do for my job very often (if ever)
@whole bear #voice-verification
whole bear
Thanks man. Not sober enough to do that right now. You guys carry on.
rugged root
Fair enough! Just wanted to make sure you saw it
whole bear
I'll fly python airlines soon.
frozen jetty
(
rugged root
HA, glad you heard that
leaden coral
So I wear many hats, but programming isn't something I do for my job very often ...
Ohh man your great
rugged root
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. But I appreciate it!
rugged root
@plucky mural https://github.com/jquast/blessed that might be decent to play with to help get the coloring you need.
Might take some tweaking to get it just right
rugged root
No worries! I'd say start by making the image first and go from there
@pulsar island #tools-and-devops
rugged root
"(" was not closedPylance
!paste Can you toss all those errors/code into one of our hastebins? It'll make it easier for us to see it
wise cargoBOT
leaden coral
No worries! I'd say start by making the image first and go from there
Can you suggest some django projects to begin?
frozen jetty
!paste Can you toss all those errors/code into one of our hastebins? It'll mak...
I'm using undo , if I couldn't solve , I'll share you
rugged root
Sounds good
rugged root
Can you suggest some django projects to begin?
Have you done the one in the Django docs? It's a tutorial for.... a blog I think? I can't remember off the top of my head, but that'll give you a good taste of what to expect in Django
leaden coral
Have you done the one in the Django docs? It's a tutorial for.... a blog I thin...
Yes i have started django docs
rugged root
Hmmm..... Well, what kinds of things other than programming are you interested in? Any hobbies?
leaden coral
Hmmm..... Well, what kinds of things other than programming are you interested i...
I mostly play games on mobile like clash of clan
rugged root
You could make a site to look up info from Clash of Clans
They have an api: https://developer.clashofclans.com/#/getting-started
Back in a sec
leaden coral
They have an api: <https://developer.clashofclans.com/#/getting-started>
thanks let me check!
rugged root
!server
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ionic ferry
rugged root
half silo
half flare
Dubai is only for making money
rugged root
Unless you're just one of the regular people filling the regular service jobs
half flare
Thier is no innovations or creativity
rugged root
Wage slaves everywhere
half flare
Elon Musk company is something else
rugged root
I don't like the man
rugged root
Sure but he himself is a douche
whole bear
@pulsar island are u indian ?
half flare
I know that
half flare
<@!420670527665995788> are u indian ?
Nope
rugged root
That's more what I was getting at.
I'm happy with the companies, I just think that Elon is a tool
half flare
he sounds indian with his voice accent
Are u stupid
whole bear
no
half flare
I'm happy with the companies, I just think that Elon is a tool
Man Elon is a real get person
rugged root
Are u stupid
Let's not randomly insult people
whole bear
lol
rugged root
Man Elon is a real get person
He really isn't though. When COVID first hit he doubled down on not paying his workers or having them comply with the "stay at home" order.
He's actively employee hostile to anyone who isn't at the higher tech positions
half flare
Do you use his starlink
rugged root
I don't know what that is
half flare
I heard its speed about1gbps
half flare
I don't know what that is
Thts his sattelite internet connection
rugged root
There's nothing I really do that would need that bandwidth. Ah, gotcha
Didn't know that was the name
half flare
Didn't know that was the name
Man u live in U.S. u must know this
half flare
Lol
rugged root
Might like not paying attention to sports, it's just not something I'm overly interested in
half flare
I guess this cybertruck will not fial this time
As it did 3 times
@Fallenour are u from Germany
rugged root
He's American from what I can tell
half flare
Oh beacuse I went. To Germany when I was in my mom's womb
So i didn't remember anything
And then I went on 2001 for 1 mont and they only know bears
Any body know that assembly language
It's like one of the most complicated ones
rugged root
Assembly isn't a singular language, per say
It's dependent on the instructions of the hardware
astral minnow
yes
rugged root
C# is good for a crap ton of things. I love it
half flare
C# is good for a crap ton of things. I love it
Yeah in unreal engine
Wiat then what is it made up of
sturdy panther
What are we talking about?
Oh. Job applications.
They used Arial in the CV! Bin it!
amber raptor
Unreal is C++, Unity is C#
rugged root
Because that's what the creators of the Unreal Engine chose
brave steppe
Why not good ol' C?
C++ has classes (well obviously since it started out as "C with classes") which is useful in such systems ๐
brave steppe
Yeah same
sour owl
runic forum
Yeah same
And in most of embedded systems, C++ is too much of a heavyweight due to its STD-library
rugged root
@brave steppe Sorry, only reason I dropped it on you is because I knew I had to bail almost right away
sturdy panther
Work done? Going home for the weekend?
brave steppe
<@!344404945359077377> Sorry, only reason I dropped it on you is because I knew ...
It's alright ๐ I'll take over
brave steppe
!e ```python
import dis
async def main():
await abc()
print(dis.dis(main))
@brave steppe :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 0 GEN_START 1
002 |
003 | 4 2 LOAD_GLOBAL 0 (abc)
004 | 4 CALL_FUNCTION 0
005 | 6 GET_AWAITABLE
006 | 8 LOAD_CONST 0 (None)
007 | 10 YIELD_FROM
008 | 12 POP_TOP
009 | 14 LOAD_CONST 0 (None)
010 | 16 RETURN_VALUE
011 | None
!e ```python
import dis
def looper():
for item in my_list:
pass
print(dis.dis(looper))
@brave steppe :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 4 0 LOAD_GLOBAL 0 (my_list)
002 | 2 GET_ITER
003 | >> 4 FOR_ITER 2 (to 10)
004 | 6 STORE_FAST 0 (item)
005 |
006 | 5 8 JUMP_ABSOLUTE 2 (to 4)
007 |
008 | 4 >> 10 LOAD_CONST 0 (None)
009 | 12 RETURN_VALUE
010 | None
somber heath
...concern.
vivid palm
and as of now throat is tickly
somber heath
๐ฆ Coochie coochie coo...
somber heath
There is a phrase that is in vogue at the moment. "Fuck around and find out." ๐
reef cloak
okay
stuck furnace
!stream 711043296025378856
wise cargoBOT
โ @reef cloak can now stream until <t:1639198025:f>.
solar heron
anyone available to help me?
somber heath
anyone available to help me?
Depends on what the problem is.
reef cloak
@trim yacht idk it ended
how
lol
ill try reinstalling the lib
maybe there is some issue with them
nope ty
okie
whole bear
okay
can you help me with somethin
im lost
okay
okay thanks
i just needed help instilling this thats all
okay
I just need help with this
somber heath
@whole bear ๐
somber heath
After hospital?
whole bear
yp
somber heath
Safely away from all of the perilously-looming thermometers?
whole bear
Safely away from all of the perilously-looming thermometers?
ya , finally
i will be back
somber heath
@whole bear๐
@limber helm๐
I am choosing to not.
Australia.
Art.
So it seems.
On occasion.
I find turtle useful to sketch L-system stuff.
You asked how you could help me. Yes?
Did I appear to be in need of help for some reason?
I am often here.
Out of consideration for the others in the household and where I am in relation to them. It is night.
20 minutes after midnight.
Yes, the day/night cycle applies the world over, even in polar areas.
Oh, we have snow.
Occasionally, we have good snow.
Generally only in alpine regions, though.
Most places in Australia never see snow.
I'm getting...Either Europe...or South America. Which doesn't nail it down much.
Slovakia.
Hang on
can't hear you
my end
Please hold.
Can hear you now.
Was I right?
Yes. I looked.
Very well.
Your English is reasonable.
Accented, but easy to listen to.
somber heath
@sturdy panther๐
whole bear
hi @sturdy panther
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
I'm not sure what I can tell you.
sturdy panther
Need to go for a bit.
somber heath
@jaunty scroll๐
jaunty scroll
hi ig
jaunty scroll
why we cant talk in voice chat
whole bear
@limber helm hi
somber heath
why we cant talk in voice chat
!voice
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
Because people would come in here and do hit and run screaming attacks and blow into their microphone and basically make regrettable examples of humanity of themselves. So the voice gate system was put in place to top that, because people who engage in such shenanigans tend to not be of patient cloth cut.
sturdy panther
Argh. Need to go again. Stupid cold sore.
somber heath
The system has made the voice chat by FAR more tolerable to be in.
jaunty scroll
why there is so much rules just to voice chat
somber heath
It presents a barrier to legitimate participation of newcomers, and I don't like it for that reason, but it's a small negative to eliminate a far greater negative.
somber heath
why there is so much rules just to voice chat
See above.
jaunty scroll
i understand bro now
somber heath
I've experienced both before and after the voice gate. With is better.
jaunty scroll
i seen other server in which there is no voice gate and u join vc and get sweared on yourself a million times
sturdy panther
I didn't even read the requirements for voice chat. I saw the command to type, did it, and done! ๐
somber heath
Mm. I met the criteria previous to their implementation.
jaunty scroll
but im bored rn
jaunty scroll
I guess you'll have to engage with us in here for now. Or not.
i am an asian and i dont even had a conversation with a foriegner before(in voice)
somber heath
Opportunity looms.
jaunty scroll
but i have to wait 3 days
somber heath
Fluency in English is an exercise in how to make grammatical mistakes like a native.
jaunty scroll
Fluency in English is an exercise in how to make grammatical mistakes like a nat...
ohh
wow
i wish i wasnt indian
severe isle
hey i m new to the server i want to learn python how can i
somber heath
!resources
wise cargoBOT
forest zodiac
i wish i wasnt indian
hmmm
grizzled zenith
python3 -V
forest zodiac
thats old 3,6
jaunty scroll
It makes me sad to hear you say that. ๐
hey is it more sad for me i know my country is rich in history but it looks like that it is 50 years behind all the world
somber heath
hey is it more sad for me i know my country is rich in history but it looks like...
Then that is the thing to be regretted. Not your blood heritage.
jaunty scroll
Then that is the thing to be regretted. Not your blood heritage.
yup i know i like my country but it is not the best
somber heath
There's a lot of that going around.
jaunty scroll
wdym
somber heath
The world over, there is much that ought to be better.
But we feel the plight of our own the sharpest.
jaunty scroll
The world over, there is much that ought to be better.
where are you from?
somber heath
Australia.
jaunty scroll
another australian
prime frost
another australian
Eritrean
somber heath
Hm?
jaunty scroll
discord has been overwhelmed by australians
somber heath
The majority of people on this server are from the US.
Indians make up about 20%, if I recall.
jaunty scroll
Indians make up about 20%, if I recall.
really
somber heath
I'm half remembering what someone said.
jaunty scroll
i never encountered another indian
somber heath
Well written Python is faster than poorly written C.
There are many Python interfaces to C-based code.
numpy being one
numba is a JIT compiler that makes things very zoomy
jaunty scroll
hey i wanted to ask what are the things that a begginer can make in a month?
somber heath
There is a 3D game engine for Python, whose name escapes me.
jaunty scroll
with python
real grove
hi
somber heath
hey i wanted to ask what are the things that a begginer can make in a month?
Sure. A month of diligent learning might get you as far as being able to make Snake.
jaunty scroll
Sure. A month of diligent learning might get you as far as being able to make Sn...
really
real grove
i am from brazil
somber heath
I wouldn't jump right to Snake. There's some foundations you should learn, first.
jaunty scroll
what bout the best text editor any begginer can use
jaunty scroll
ok.
somber heath
Many people enjoy using Visual Studio Code.
Some people enjoy Pycharm. These people are wrong.
Some people, like myself, are IDE luddites and use IDLE.
jaunty scroll
hmm
somber heath
Spyder is another.
somber heath
Experiment.
somber heath
I like the black and purpleness.
woeful salmon
๐ funny thing tho is that this isn't even what i'm editing rn (surprise i'm doing advent)
i just thought html and css would look nicer side by side so i opened 2 files from an old project
lol
sturdy panther
Opened just to show off!
severe isle
hey hey hey can i get any tips how do i start learning python
sturdy panther
It does look good though!
woeful salmon
Opened just to show off!
yes
somber heath
hey hey hey can i get any tips how do i start learning python
I often refer people to Corey Schafer's youtube channel. Some of his playlists cover many of the basics you should know.
woeful salmon
!resources
wise cargoBOT
woeful salmon
more resources here you can also use to learn
severe isle
thx
woeful salmon
@somber heath i'm kinda done with NoodleReaper ๐ plz suggest another namem
i like the ones you suggest so
somber heath
<@!317279909112446976> i'm kinda done with NoodleReaper ๐ plz suggest another n...
Oh, no! I was growing quite fond of it.
woeful salmon
then i might keep it as a nickname for here
somber heath
I'll come up with another should you desire.
woeful salmon
but suggest me a name anyway
somber heath
I may need to think on it.
woeful salmon
one more usable for things like github and more
sturdy panther
Does this look readable to you?
self._address = "localhost" if address is None else address
Seems good.
woeful salmon
yeah looks nice and tidy ๐
somber heath
But you could also do...
def func(self, address = "localhost"):
self._address = address```vs javascript
this._address = address ?? "localhost"
Yeah, I mean, if you need to differentiate...I get it.
sturdy panther
Javascript is like if (a ======== "42") {}
woeful salmon
=== not =======
and you can use == but it converts the type of right hand side to match left hand side
in javascript
somber heath
I once had someone show me you can write banana with JS sorcery.
Involving math operations that result in nan
Or maybe it was java
Like, zero distinction between nan and "nan"
As we would understand it in Python.
It was so weird.
Yahoy.@pastel linden
woeful salmon
somber heath
Science Technology Engineering Mathematics. STEM. @pastel linden
pastel linden
thanks
somber heath
5? Because some clever clogs a while back figured out how to do it with 2.
For an esolang that exists only as a curiosity?
somber heath
Got adblockers running?
What about your other security settings on firefox?
cookies, etc
I tried Chrome once.
Once.
It was one time too many.
woeful salmon
somber heath
You say difficult. Others might say principled.
molten pewter
woeful salmon
sturdy panther
!voice
wise cargoBOT
molten pewter
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/accessibility-developer-t/fpkknkljclfencbdbgkenhalefipecmb
sturdy panther
I hate this job application website. It disabled horizontal scroll, but has a really wide table. I can only read its content after zooming out to 33%.
[...] supported Internet browsers:
- Internet Explorer 11, latest version of Firefox, Chrome and Edge on Windows 7+
- Latest version of Safari on Mac OS
- Latest version of Safari on iOS (10" iPad recommended)
- Latest version of Chrome on Android (~10" device recommended)
- Etray assessment and dynamic reporting have some further restrictions
I don't have access to any of those!
pliant sphinx
hello
normal sail
!voice
wise cargoBOT
pine dune
@mental sundial you have to be voice veryfied to talk
mild agate
https://tenor.com/view/xd-programming-gif-23473924
ig that resembles ur condition
btw anyone here who participated in Hacktoberfest 2021?
mild agate
btw anyone here who participated in Hacktoberfest 2021?
@woeful salmon ?
woeful salmon
i personally think of hacktoberfest as a waste of time
mild agate
hm..\
woeful salmon
i will only contribute to projects i like or use and i will do it when i want to
they can have their tshirt
lol
ornate sandal
huh wdym
woeful salmon
like don't spam messages in chunks
ornate sandal
oh
woeful salmon
just talk normally
mild agate
i will only contribute to projects i like or use and i will do it when i want to
hmm noice
woeful salmon
xD
mild agate
bcs programmin helps ya build your Locial brain
But if ya have strong interest in anything then ya may really go far with it and eventually become rich
woeful salmon
bcs programmin helps ya build your Locial brain
exactly the reason they say more than 50% of people from our country are not fit for a programming job
lol
mild agate
YEA true
but they are pushin themselves just for MONEy
and thats not good
HEy lolz
Priest in INDIA: BABA!
HEY @gloomy vigil
u cant say that
Thats not the reality
rn
BHAI...
@woeful salmon he became toxic kinda
for india
woeful salmon
<@!128363483828977664> he became toxic kinda
๐คทโโ๏ธ not fully a lie tho
as i said i have seen people's grades / credits improve via donations
lol
mild agate
HE SAID: colleges here are not teachin abt programmin and stuff
woeful salmon
rather my friends did it and bragged about it
mild agate
rather my friends did it and bragged about it
thats not good but thats everywhere
woeful salmon
HE SAID: colleges here are not teachin abt programmin and stuff
yeah they do teach but there's a limit to howmuch you can fit into a 4 year course
and then even keeping that up to date
mild agate
thats not good but thats everywhere
u cant pat any particular country
mild agate
and then even keeping that up to date
yup TRUE
woeful salmon
specially for web development
mild agate
ig BONI was speakin somethin
woeful salmon
๐ container queries are comming soon
gloomy vigil
can you guys hear me
woeful salmon
unis just started teaching css grid
gloomy vigil
sturdy panther
Full Name: ____
Email: ____
Scrolling down one screen...
First Name: ____
Surname: ____
Email: ____
What is wrong with job websites?!
gloomy vigil
!e
print(2/1)
print(2//1)
@gloomy vigil :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 2.0
002 | 2
Hello ๐
pine dune
a % b
stuck furnace
Erm, I'm not sure.
So apparently the runtime is proportional to the products of the lengths of the two numbers.
If you need to do both division and modulo, there's a standard library function which combines the two: math.divmod
quotient, remainder = math.divmod(x, y)
Not sure if it's any faster, or just a convenience function.
pine dune
nah, just need to make % faster
gloomy vigil
here my point https://github.com/Ibrahim2750mi/linux-goose
gentle flint
zealous wave
https://github-readme-stats.vercel.app/api/top-langs/?username=ChiliMX&theme=dark
make sure &theme=dark is there
mild agate
uhh... just did it randomly
cedar briar
stuck furnace
Can't have been very important ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Erm
no
What about a santa hat with chillies? https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/564325909/chili-pepper-santa-hat-grilling-santa
Alright
zealous wave
gloomy vigil
this looks nice
stuck furnace
Yep ๐
So do you just need to add this to a .gitattributes file? ```
*.make linguist-vendored
oh i was using =false
mild agate
btw BRAVE is really fast
mild agate
mozilla is resource sucker
stuck furnace
but its still 10% it was 30% before
Ah, progress!
sturdy panther
You are brave to use it.
gloomy vigil
Ah, progress!
yea
stuck furnace
Does adding ```
[mM]akefile linguist-vendored
no
stuck furnace
Any change?
gloomy vigil
no i think
stuck furnace
Oh you're writing a program to find primes?
gloomy vigil
under 0.2s to check every number to 1M
seconds?
pine dune
yea
gloomy vigil
1million?
stuck furnace
Ah nice. Have you tried out the Sieve of Eratosthenes?
pine dune
that's that program
but starts at p^2 for poping becouse other prime would kick number earlier
stuck furnace
Ah right. Maybe you could make it faster by skipping even numbers after 2? ๐ค
gloomy vigil
also the numbers where there ones digit is 5
woeful salmon
also the numbers where there ones digit is 5
๐ค i just had a random thought but which of
num % 2 == 0
or
num & 1 == 0
do you think would be faster
in python
zealous wave
why not time it
woeful salmon
Ah right. Maybe you could make it faster by skipping even numbers after 2? ๐ค
can i do it here?
stuck furnace
Wdym?
woeful salmon
๐ค i just had a random thought but which of
```py
num % 2 == 0
```
or
```py
num ...
time the difference ^
stuck furnace
Ah yeah, just use !e and timeit.
primal yacht
About to shower so hopefully someone finds this JavaScript useful ...
const discordDateFormat = (date = null, overrides={}) => {
if (date == null) {
date = new Date();
}
let {
year = date.getFullYear(),
month = null, monthFix = true,
day = date.getDate(),
hours = null, isPM = null,
minutes = date.getMinutes(),
seconds = date.getSeconds(),
relative = false
} = overrides;
if (month == null) {
month = date.getMonth();
} else if (monthFix) {
--month;
}
if (hours == null) {
hours = date.getHours();
} else if (isPM != null) {
hours %= 12;
if (isPM) {
hours += 12;
}
}
date.setFullYear(year, month, day, hours, minutes, seconds, 0);
return '<t:'.concat(Math.floor(+date / 1000), relative ? ':R>' : '>');
};
Example usage:
console.log('New years was at: ' + discordDateFormat(undefined, {
//years: 2021, // year
month: 1, // month
//monthFix: false, // true for basic people
day: 1, // day of month,
hours: 12, // hour
isPM: false, // don't specify if 24-our clock
minutes: 0, // minutes
seconds: 0, // probably should still specify this, even if not really visible by Discord.
relative: true // relative output
}));
!e
import timeit
foo = list(range(1, 1001))
print(timeit.timeit("[n%2==0 for n in foo]", setup="from __main__ import foo",number = 10000))
print(timeit.timeit("[n&1==0 for n in foo]", setup="from __main__ import foo",number = 10000))
@woeful salmon :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 0.5551126468926668
002 | 0.6658805320039392
Pretty much the Discord thing like:
<t:1639239540:R> / <t:1639239540>```
<t:1639239540:R> / <t:1639239540>
for what I typed btw
does timeit.timeit allow you to specify stuff that was already ran through compile() ?
(just curious for you)
now shower time for me
woeful salmon
๐ค i'm pretty sure it runs in a completely new scope without the globals from the previous thinig being available
primal yacht
compile allows choosing the from __future__ import ... / etc. options so it can vary from what you are running it with
I meant compile() ... not eval() / exec()
primal yacht
eval() and exec() may implicitly call compile() if invoked with a str
stuck furnace
Cya ๐
gloomy vigil
what happen?
stuck furnace
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
gloomy vigil
also did lx did you find a solution for that .gittattributes thing
stuck furnace
Could you try: ```
Makefile linguist-vendored
Not sure if the [mM] syntax works.
Oh yeah ๐ But all of those are tools that automatically generate makefiles.
gloomy vigil
it rises to 45.5%
stuck furnace
stuck furnace
it rises to 45.5%
Oh, did you delete the *.cmake linguist-vendored line?
stuck furnace
Ohh, sorry ```
[Mm]akefile linguist-vendored
*.make linguist-vendored
Not *.cmake ...
gloomy vigil
Not `*.cmake ...`
cmake is different i also wanted to ignore that
stuck furnace
Hmm, it probably makes less sense to ignore cmake files, as you write those ones yourself right? (They're not generated by a tool.)
gloomy vigil
stuck furnace
But yeah then you need both: ```
[Mm]akefile linguist-vendored
*.make linguist-vendored
*.cmake linguist-vendored
no they are generated too
i just make .h and .cpp and cmakelisttxt
gentle flint
it's in position
stuck furnace
gloomy vigil
<a:party_dog:666740190877974547>
how?
gloomy vigil
https://github.com/Ibrahim2750mi/linux-goose
gentle flint
verbal ibex
Guys, do you like programming?
gloomy vigil
Ah yeah, sometimes it works, sometimes not ๐ค It might just be caching.
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
verbal ibex
Guys, do you like programming?
I assume you do. Could anybody tell me why?
I need it for my college essay, I cannot come up with any ideas
lol
stuck furnace
Ah right ๐
gloomy vigil
I assume you do. Could anybody tell me why?
idk why do i like programming
stuck furnace
It's pretty satisfying when you write a program to solve a complex problem and it works.
woeful salmon
I assume you do. Could anybody tell me why?
stuck furnace
And it can just be fun building systems.
gloomy vigil
It's pretty satisfying when you write a program to solve a complex problem and i...
thats also works with maths when you solve a difficult problem in it, same with physics. The satisfaction of solving a problem
dry cave
Hey guys I am not able load my image in html file
stuck furnace
Do you like programming, @verbal ibex ?
dry cave
Just let me speak
wise cargoBOT
gentle flint
read the embed @dry cave
woeful salmon
Hey guys I am not able load my image in html file
can you show the html maybe?
dry cave
let me speak
gentle flint
let me speak
read the embed
dry cave
let me share the screen
gloomy vigil
let me speak
you need to have 50 messages
stuck furnace
Sorry @dry cave, we don't make exceptions to the voice-gate, but it shouldn't take very long before you meet the requirements.
woeful salmon
you have to goto #voice-verification and get verified then
stuck furnace
The voice-gate is unfortunately necessary to prevent trolling.
For now, it might be worthwhile claiming a help channel: #โ๏ฝhow-to-get-help
woeful salmon
For now, it might be worthwhile claiming a help channel: <#704250143020417084>
its html
not python
o- o so probably just ask it in #code-help-voice-text or #web-development
gentle flint
I'm assuming it's the same question asked on 08-12-2021 here
#web-development message
stuck furnace
Er, not appropriate Oof.
verbal ibex
Do _you_ like programming, <@!533303458498084876> ?
I do. I guess I love it due to freedom. Being a programmer you are able to create literally anything.
On top of that, solving problems is one more reason. I like when programs I create are able to help other people.
Also it is fairly satisfying to see your program evolve, it's like bringing up a kid, teaching them and stuff.
dry cave
just let me shre the screen
stuck furnace
I do. I guess I love it due to freedom. Being a programmer you are able to creat...
That sounds like a pretty good start ๐
dry cave
verbal ibex
That sounds like a pretty good start ๐
thx ๐
dry cave
Can you help me out
woeful salmon
can you screenshot your html for that? ๐
stuck furnace
Enrichment?
verbal ibex
Enrichment?
yep
dry cave
pls help me yehor
dry cave
hey iron biscuit pls help me out
pliant sphinx
pls help me yehor
can you describe you issue/
gentle flint
BTW, LX, why don't you speak?
never has
pliant sphinx
?
gentle flint
an innate sense of modesty
dry cave
my image is not loading pls help me out
verbal ibex
an innate sense of modesty
alright, fair enough
dry cave
hey noodle -reeper pls me out
pliant sphinx
my image is not loading pls help me out
i dont see any img tag in you screenshots
gentle flint
he wrote it as image
pliant sphinx
hey noodle -reeper pls me out
on line 9 replace image with img
not picture but figure i thinl
think
woeful salmon
hey noodle -reeper pls me out
are your images in same folder as your html?
dry cave
still not loading
stuck furnace
Yep, that's literally why it's locked down.
stuck furnace
BTW, LX, why don't you speak?
Erm, I don't know actually ๐
woeful salmon
still not loading
did you refresh with them in the same folder?
dry cave
yes i did
woeful salmon
can you show us that folder?
stuck furnace
What you making Oof?
wise cargoBOT
Hey @dry cave!
dry cave
How can i show
stuck furnace
Ah, use our paste service: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/
dry cave
i have windows laptop
pliant sphinx
!voice
gentle flint
run that command in the #voice-verification channel
gloomy vigil
dont spam
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @dry cave until <t:1639250666:f> (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: duplicates rule: sent 4 duplicated messages in 10s).
stuck furnace
@gloomy vigil you've got a bit of an echo coming through?
And also a bit of buzzing.
Hey Rabbit ๐
amber raptor
Hey Rabbit ๐
Hello
wise cargoBOT
Hey @dry cave!
stuck furnace
Erm, @dry cave, for large blocks of code, use the paste bin I linked to earlier please: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/
woeful salmon
help me noodel reeper
can you show us your folder structure?
dry cave
how do i
woeful salmon
just screenshot the folder
dry cave
dry cave
still not loading noodlereeper
woeful salmon
how are you running it?
stuck furnace
About to get something to eat.
On that note... ๐
mint canyon
are you guys chatting, i cant hear anything?
gloomy vigil
are you guys chatting, i cant hear anything?
yes