voice-chat-text-0

[vocal basin]

… and now I don't know where to put her so that she doesn't get instantly covered in dust

[whole bear]

Nah!

[vocal basin]

emutopia

[robust solar]

what bout u mate

[whole bear]

Not everyone is built different

[whole bear]

Hello sir, come again!

You might have guessed

[robust solar]

indian 100 percent

can kiwis fly?

aww sad

[ripe viper]

how do they even know that?

[whole bear]

They can, but they need red bull for it.

[robust solar]

can Australian keep kiwis as a pet?

[robust solar]

man where u r from

aww

[vocal basin]

from "Defence strategy for small nations - force design, friends, and deterrence on a budget"

[whole bear]

Once upon a time australian used to keep humans as pet aka slaves!

[robust solar]

...

[ripe viper]

......

[robust solar]

lolllllllllllllllllllll

thats kina cool

say it again

[somber heath]

@steep sapphire @meager kite 👋

[steep sapphire]

helloo

[robust solar]

man is it a programming server or politician

[ripe viper]

honestly, i have no idea.

[robust solar]

what do u follow as aa politic mindset

[robust solar]

jigar

[ripe viper]

I... don't have a politic mindset.

[vocal basin]

voice channels are offtopic

[whole bear]

In this episode, we will find out.
Stay tuned!

[whole bear]

Your built different 😎

[ripe viper]

No, thank you.

I would politly decline your offer.

[whole bear]

Ig u must be from eastern Europe?

[ripe viper]

no, Russia.

[whole bear]

Expected

[robust solar]

can i talk about great France evolution

[whole bear]

Why not?

[robust solar]

i hate u

u make fun of me

[whole bear]

How?

[vocal basin]

(did you mean revolution?)

[robust solar]

a 6th sens says it to me

[robust solar]

silly me

wait aint evo a model of japanese car

[whole bear]

What do you wanna talk about?

[robust solar]

i think i heard it once

[robust solar]

how can i escape from my country

[ripe viper]

what car?

[robust solar]

mitusbishi lancer evo

[ripe viper]

ok.

[whole bear]

Well well well!
The solution is quite obvious but I'm not permitted to suggest here.
I might get banned!

[robust solar]

dm me when ever uu wat

[vocal basin]

given people perceive "evolution" to mean "improvement", wouldn't be surprise to have it added all over the names

[ripe viper]

what country are you in, it depends.

[robust solar]

uae

[robust solar]

i hate u again again

[whole bear]

Dude that's a hint!

[ripe viper]

he will get banned from discord.

[robust solar]

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[robust solar]

cool

[vocal basin]

make friends with rich Russian tourists

funnily enough, the recommendation to escape Russia would involve UAE too

[robust solar]

im listening the last night we met by lord huron

[vocal basin]

there is no escape

[robust solar]

indircetly no?

wh y my laptop is sounding like a A-10

[vocal basin]

probably better to cut this path of the conversation, if it's implying anything inappropriate

[robust solar]

what is that mean

[whole bear]

Nvm

[robust solar]

is escaping fromm my own country forbiden

[ripe viper]

if it's north korea, then yeah probably.

[vocal basin]

#code-of-conduct
(not because immoral/bad, but because sensitive topic)

[vocal basin]

NK now has "a way out"

[whole bear]

Hmm

Okay

[ripe viper]

sit on a wing of a plane?

[robust solar]

um done

i would take my word back

[whole bear]

Russian?

[robust solar]

nah

[vocal basin]

Russia->Kursk->Ukraine

success not guaranteed

[ripe viper]

i went straight for Russia->Finland.

[robust solar]

so u mean i can change my team betweer rushing B

[whole bear]

You got respawned?

[robust solar]

more acceptable

[whole bear]

@robust solar Are you rich?

[ripe viper]

nah, just got that time window.

[whole bear]

If not, as I told you there is only one way out.
Well well well!

[robust solar]

nah i was born with no teeth and clothe neither

[whole bear]

You're built differently!

[ripe viper]

you were supposted to be born with cloth?

[robust solar]

and i couldnt even speak english when i was born

[vocal basin]

@tall ridge 👋

[whole bear]

Level up to speak english!

Level up to get voice verified!

#voice-verification

[vocal basin]

a couple more days required

[whole bear]

@tall ridge 👋

[ripe viper]

yeah, don't worry about it.

[robust solar]

Voice Gate failed
You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the following reasons:

You have been on the server for less than 3 days.

i recive this wtf is this i told ur friend

[ripe viper]

i have less then 50 messages.

[whole bear]

So what do you do @tall ridge

[robust solar]

taco?

[tall ridge]

tahoe-lafs

[ripe viper]

that's what i heard

[vocal basin]

magic wormhole thing? or is it separate? I already forgot

[robust solar]

yeah

[robust solar]

how old u r man

did i hear 61??

no fr r u real 61?

[whole bear]

There's a typo let me fix it:
F yourself!

[vocal basin]

please stay respectful towards users;
even if you two do it jokingly, it doesn't look good

[robust solar]

man u look younger than 61

are u sillin me?

[vocal basin]

and this is obviously crossing the line

[robust solar]

my bad

[tall ridge]

https://tahoe-lafs-docs-ng.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

[robust solar]

i try to be more politce since now

miller?

[tall ridge]

https://tahoe-lafs-docs-ng.readthedocs.io/en/latest/operator-tutorial/index.html

[whole bear]

Damn 😄

[robust solar]

...

[whole bear]

I'm jealous and proud of you and kind of cringed by my behaviour!

[robust solar]

....

wait aint my messegaes up to 50?

[tall ridge]

https://github.com/blaisep/private_facts

[vocal basin]

https://tahoe-lafs-docs-ng.readthedocs.io/en/latest/operator-tutorial/step-by-step.html#tmux-is-your-friend
somehow in all my years of dealing with terminals, I never actually got to using tmux at all

all three my attempts ended in it being unable to start

[tall ridge]

byobu

[robust solar]

is it normal that i dont get anything??like is it beacausse that im not a programmer

ahh cool

u were explaning

[vocal basin]

I've learned of a different way of alternating between shell contexts from another Alisa

[robust solar]

ahaa

[vocal basin]

conceptually different from tmux-like

[robust solar]

are u a web developer?

ur a nice man BlaisePabon 😭 ❤️

[vocal basin]

https://axlefublr.github.io/suspend/

[robust solar]

alisa

[vocal basin]

wait when did she leave

[robust solar]

how does it take to become a person who understand these speeches

do u guys make application ??

[vocal basin]

@tall ridge attach or exec?

[vocal basin]

PM2 has an interesting UI

(web one)

[tacit crane]

never heard of it

ui

[robust solar]

the only i can do

[vocal basin]

C#?

(I think)

[robust solar]

yeah

[vocal basin]

https://pm2.io/images/home.gif

[robust solar]

the only thing that i learned and then i released that c#IS NOT A good option to start first

[vocal basin]

@tacit crane this one

[tall ridge]

Watch lots of youtube videos and listen to podcasts

[robust solar]

who do u recommen on yt

[vocal basin]

I have no idea what their business model is;
this web thing might be service-only

they host it, you just send metrics over

SaaS

they are related

quite closely

[whole bear]

You can also do this :
Run cmd as admin

Execute this command one by one:
cd diskpart
select disk 0
select partition 1
assign letter = r
exit
r:
cd efi
rd Microsoft /s

Your computer will be 10x and you gain 1million aura

[vocal basin]

(obvious reminder to never run any commands unless you understand what they do)

[robust solar]

i wouldnt even think of doing what YOU suggest

[robust solar]

keep saying man

[vocal basin]

yesterday watched someone rm -rfing their / in Rust discord

[whole bear]

Why?
Maybe 🤔 you hate me that's the reason?

[vocal basin]

... idk why they did that

[robust solar]

like jigar

ahaaaaa

man how many years have u been coding @tall ridge

[whole bear]

Maybe when you were just mere semen!

[robust solar]

...

1983?

[tall ridge]

PL/1

[vocal basin]

the Multics language

[robust solar]

my dad was 4 years old in 1983

....

[ripe viper]

my dad wasn't even born in 1983

[robust solar]

if it doesnt mean rude as a experienced man is it worthable to start ccoding ??

i mean by salary and job state @tall ridge

[robust solar]

lol

[ripe viper]

he was about (-5)-(-6) years old then.

[whole bear]

Really?

Son I found you, I was 4 years old back then

[ripe viper]

Copilot is making it harder to make good code.

[robust solar]

if i want to become a web and software developer !!!!!
@tall ridge

[robust solar]

amak

[amber raptor]

Step 2: leave server and find JS server

[ripe viper]

if you want to be a web dev, i hope you get a good UI/UX designer.

[robust solar]

nah i like python'

[tacit crane]

You are the user

[whole bear]

Wbu step 1?

[amber raptor]

Drink

[ripe viper]

so what?

[robust solar]

i dont even know wht is python used for can u guys explain??

[tacit crane]

You can takke suggesition

insted of asking code

[robust solar]

js??

[ripe viper]

i mostly use it for scripts(with subcommands).

[ripe viper]

python can be fast if you know how to use it, but nobody know how to.

[robust solar]

in my country companies are looking for a full stack developer but im not really intersted in making web sites

[ripe viper]

if speed is an issue, get some help on how to optimize.

[whole bear]

Ur true programmer!

[robust solar]

imma hack u

[whole bear]

Well well well,
You know what I'm gonna say there's only one way (that you know).

[robust solar]

no for real does beaing full stack developer mean knoing both front end and back end languages??

[robust solar]

..................

[ripe viper]

so js, css, and html? Or are there more?

[robust solar]

are these ezier than python?

[ripe viper]

i don't know.

[whole bear]

Not really!

[tall ridge]

They are not

[robust solar]

haaaaaa

[ripe viper]

never used web dev lang pack(css, js, html).

i guess AngularJS, NodeJS or something like that.

[whole bear]

No!

[robust solar]

is it normal that a full stack developer get paid 4 grands in my country as a normal salary

[whole bear]

Annually?

[robust solar]

per month

[whole bear]

Normal

[robust solar]

do u work?

[whole bear]

Nah

[ripe viper]

i don't

[tacit crane]

Packages

[robust solar]

the question is can i survuive with a coder payment??💀

[robust solar]

chill

chill

what is going there

[vocal basin]

httpx for both ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[whole bear]

It's all about demand and supply

[ripe viper]

depends on the contry.

[robust solar]

u rught.

right

[amber raptor]

Also CI/CD is solved for most, into a container you go

[robust solar]

rabbit is kinda angry i g

[whole bear]

The problem with rabbit is:
His ignorance is his arrogance!

[amber raptor]

I’m angry at bad ideas

Because they become garbage I’m stuck supporting

[robust solar]

i like this man

[ripe viper]

no, you're hungry for good ideas.

[whole bear]

I like him as a person

[ripe viper]

did you mean garbage?

[robust solar]

wdyfm

thank you Mr Pabon @tall ridge i really appreciate ur advices

[whole bear]

I mean, he is a good programmer and responsible individual but he ignores the point of view of the x person, whom he is talking to.

[robust solar]

have a great time gentlemen

thanks for helping

imma out

[vocal basin]

being able to write CI action in Go convinced me to actually do it

I really don't want to Node.js more than the least amount possible

[amber raptor]

yea, I'll edit

[amber raptor]

I'm not ignoring the viewpoint of the person, he's insane idea of writing more code to paper over problems with language is insane idea

most problems you need code for are SOLVED problems

CI/CD for CRUD Web Apps, shove into Container, done

[vocal basin]

"mypy is great, but you still can just typing.cast anything, so fundamentally nothing changes"

[amber raptor]

🤮

[ripe viper]

@amber raptor fair point

[whole bear]

I'm vegetarian, please no more beef!

[vocal basin]

(context: typing.cast just asserts the type to be whatever you say)

[amber raptor]

mypy is great at catching when data is coming internally but most Apps have external data that MyPy can't catch

[ripe viper]

but this is not beef, this is an argument

[amber raptor]

like you mis understood rest API documentation, you thought X Field was int when it was string, MyPy is clueless and Pydantic may not throw an error but cast silently depending

that was a fun bug that made into production

[ripe viper]

what about pyright?

never used it though.

[vocal basin]

!d typing.cast

[wise cargo]

typing.cast

typing.cast(typ, val)```
Cast a value to a type.

This returns the value unchanged. To the type checker this signals that the return value has the designated type, but at runtime we intentionally don’t check anything (we want this to be as fast as possible).

[vocal basin]

we intentionally don’t check anything

type-unsafe function, you promise the type to be correct

[ripe viper]

a module's function?

[vocal basin]

you almost never need that

but the fact that someone somewhere can use it breaks the whole type safety

and that someone will eventually get it wrong

=> mypy and pyright are lied to => bugs and horrors

[amber raptor]

We had a type error at work that was bad

[ripe viper]

how bad?

[amber raptor]

like crashing the application bad that nothing worked

[ripe viper]

oh.

[vocal basin]

I'm having similar issues with TS recently

and yeah, in that exact thing of "can't check external data"

[amber raptor]

what was it? Well, 3rd party API had ID field, ID was str, not int. Well, the way it worked, it was like IPv6 where it started out as numbers until it got certain point then used numbers, (base16)

but the developer when using postman marked it as int

Python was happy to cast str -> int until ID field returned 23FA then obviously it crashed

also, the database column was int as well

so nothing work until emergency code fix, database schema change, downstream problems and that was day everyone at the company was like "NO MORE PYTHON"

[vocal basin]

str -> int
automatic horrors beyond human comprehension

[amber raptor]

So sure, the developer should have read the documentation better and looked at JSON closer but we know how it is

[ripe viper]

that's why i made a rule for myself to read the code and docs before doing anything.

[tacit crane]

Sometime Docs are Not an option

THEN Go back to classics PRINT FOR DEBIG

[ripe viper]

first you go to reverse engineering.

[tacit crane]

API

?

[ripe viper]

then you go for print.

[tacit crane]

Most of the time i am dealing with API with no docs

then have to do lot of tests

[ripe viper]

do you have the code?

[tacit crane]

What code

Those api are not mine

[ripe viper]

of the API

[ripe viper]

ok

[tacit crane]

If its my code THEN i will know what is going on

Almost all the time i am using fastapi
You Know Auto DOCS

For my own api

[ripe viper]

then you change the variables/parameters and see what changes in the output.

[ripe viper]

i don't use docs.

[tacit crane]

That is what i was talkking about

[vocal basin]

/docs swagger?

[tacit crane]

NO LIKE
FastAPI

HAS AUTO DOCS

swagger

[vocal basin]

you still need to give it a schema it can understand

and not just, like, dict

[tacit crane]

https://autotopup.gliders.dev/docs

1 EXAMPLE

[vocal basin]

https://docs.rs/aide

unfortunately doesn't come with Swagger

only Redoc and the other one

Scalar

oh wait

it does have Swagger

I'm either blind

or it got added recently

[tacit crane]

Swagger IS PREETY COMMON

[vocal basin]

yeah, latest version

[tacit crane]

For Frameworks TO HAVE

[ripe viper]

https://docs.rs/aide/latest/aide/swagger/struct.Swagger.html and https://docs.rs/aide/latest/aide/swagger/index.html weren't in 0.13.5

[tacit crane]

Every frameworks are adding Swagger

or any other auto docs

[vocal basin]

(last version I used was 0.13)

[ripe viper]

they added it in 0.14.0

[vocal basin]

with axum at 0.7

(it's at 0.8 now)

[distant flare]

https://youtu.be/hVMaPBrWvAo?si=W22dRcBKd3Xf-etc

[ebon mist]

@rugged root Long time no see

[whole bear]

i do but it wont let me say anything

bro i heard everthing

you learning data analytics?

it still wont let me

[vocal basin]

~day left until verification

[peak nacelle]

https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/764802555427029012

[whole bear]

what? i joined like 4 days ago

it says i just need to be 3 days in

[vocal basin]

!user 1327415823362560060

[wise cargo]

alphaq0122

User information

Created: <t:1736550994:R>
Profile: @vast drift
ID: 1327415823362560060

Member information

Joined: <t:1736554297:R>
Roles: None

Activity

Messages: 89
Activity blocks: 9

Infractions

Total: 0
Active: 0

[whole bear]

3 days ago innit

[vocal basin]

* 4.5 hours

[whole bear]

ohh okay

nice

[peak nacelle]

!paste

[wise cargo]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[whole bear]

how did u even pull up my info like that

python expert lvl 10?

[ebon mist]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/6WQQ

[whole bear]

100*

[vocal basin]

you can do the same by using !user in #bot-commands

[whole bear]

lemme try

wouldnt let me

[vocal basin]

only mods can use on others, iirc

[whole bear]

oh okay thats good to know

hahaha you are muted too

[vocal basin]

I think !kindling mentions codewars

!kindling

[wise cargo]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page on Ned Batchelder's website contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[vocal basin]

I thought it also mentioned leetcode but currently that's not the case

[ebon mist]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/MUPQ

[vocal basin]

I'd highly suggest using classes with typed fields rather than mixed-value-type dicts

!d dataclasses

[wise cargo]

dataclasses

Source code: Lib/dataclasses.py

This module provides a decorator and functions for automatically adding generated special methods such as __init__() and __repr__() to user-defined classes. It was originally described in PEP 557.

The member variables to use in these generated methods are defined using PEP 526 type annotations. For example, this code...

[vocal basin]

!pep8

[wise cargo]

PEP 8

PEP 8 is the official style guide for Python. It includes comprehensive guidelines for code formatting, variable naming, and making your code easy to read. Professional Python developers are usually required to follow the guidelines, and will often use code-linters like flake8 to verify that the code they're writing complies with the style guide.

More information:

• PEP 8 document
• Our PEP 8 song! :notes:

[vocal basin]

actually...
your code is slightly erroneous

line 18

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 3, in <module>
003 |     @dataclass
004 |      ^^^^^^^^^
005 |   File "/snekbin/python/3.12/lib/python3.12/dataclasses.py", line 1275, in dataclass
006 |     return wrap(cls)
007 |            ^^^^^^^^^
008 |   File "/snekbin/python/3.12/lib/python3.12/dataclasses.py", line 1265, in wrap
009 |     return _process_class(cls, init, repr, eq, order, unsafe_hash,
010 |            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/QWQNUDTQP7QNZDNICMVFHZDZE4

[vocal basin]

understandable

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 4, in <module>
003 |     class Spell:
004 |   File "/home/main.py", line 11, in Spell
005 |     components: dict = Field(default_factory=lambda: {"list": None})
006 |                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
007 | TypeError: Field.__init__() missing 7 required positional arguments: 'default', 'init', 'repr', 'hash', 'compare', 'metadata', and 'kw_only'

[vocal basin]

... I have no idea what I'm supposed to do there

!e

from dataclasses import dataclass, field

@dataclass
class Spell:
    name: str = ""
    id: int = 0
    school: str = ""
    level: int = 0
    casting_time: int = 0
    range: int = 0
    components: dict = field(default_factory=lambda: {"list": None})
    duration: int = 0
    features: dict = field(default_factory=lambda: {"list": None})

print(Spell())

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

Spell(name='', id=0, school='', level=0, casting_time=0, range=0, components={'list': None}, duration=0, features={'list': None})

[vocal basin]

SQLite

I wonder if MongoDB can run on Android

I know it can't run on some x86 computers

since 5.0

I think only one of three servers I have can run it

because it needs AVX

Android has different ABIs I'd expect

like certain syscalls and whatever

[ebon mist]

!paste

[wise cargo]

Pasting large amounts of code

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After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[ebon mist]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/O62Q

[vocal basin]

SQLite is quite good when there's no concurrent access

!d shelve

[wise cargo]

shelve

Source code: Lib/shelve.py

A “shelf” is a persistent, dictionary-like object. The difference with “dbm” databases is that the values (not the keys!) in a shelf can be essentially arbitrary Python objects — anything that the pickle module can handle. This includes most class instances, recursive data types, and objects containing lots of shared sub-objects. The keys are ordinary strings.

[vocal basin]

^ don't use

but there, I think, are things that work similarly

I've made a shelve-like thing on top of sqlite3 at some point

[vocal basin]

more for inspiration than for direct use

if you were to do just JSON, almost use at least two files

never overwrite the existing one

spawn one worker thread/process to handle all SQLite'ing

that's what aiosqlite does

you shouldn't create tables dynamically

just add a column

tables names should be hard-coded

[mystic river]

saw that lmao

[vocal basin]

or valkey now that redis went proprietary

[vocal basin]

@peak nacelle @mystic river GPL

I have at least two things licensed under CC0

(public domain)

((there's very little reason to do that))

@mystic river about corporate open-source:
#voice-chat-text-0 message

[robust solar]

...

it started

[vocal basin]

@mystic river you've heard of recent-ish train repair drama, right?

SGML mentioned

(I hope I misheard)

HTML + XML + ancient time

is that a TUI editor? (TurboPascal-style)

((text))

ah, it's a more or less new one, judging by how it looks

doesn't qualify for TurboSGML

[vocal basin]

okay, that's more than a decade apart

[vocal basin]

(this was about Adept)

oh, wait, Midnight Commander is from only 31 years ago

I thought it was older

[vocal basin]

11 years from this to a somewhat reasonable file explorer

[ebon mist]

class game_map:
  def __init__(self):
    self.background_layer = {
      "1,1":{
        "tile":"grass",
        "tile_walk_in_from":{
          "north":True,
          "south":True,
          "east":True,
          "west":True
        },
        "tile_walk_on_to":{
          "north":False,
          "south":True,
          "east":True,
          "west":False
        },
        "flags":{
          "is_walkable":True
        },
        }
    }
    self.forground_layer = {
      
    }
    self.entity_layer = {
      
    }
    self.player_layer =  

[vocal basin]

I'm currently writing such a zero-IQ Rust code
not doing anything intelligent, just literally copying the spec expressing it through serde

[vocal basin]

do you need it to be JSON-serializable?

otherwise you could be using (1, 1) for the key

!e

print({(1, 1): "test"}[(1, 1)])
print({(1, 1): "test"}[1, 1])

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | test
002 | test

[vocal basin]

but that's not JSON-compatible

@ebon mist I think it's okay to keep that data on both adjacent cells

and require both to allow the "walk"

i.e. if you have a stone and a grass tile,
stone might have False for everything,
grass might have True for everything

you can also store all connections separately, yes

@smoky delta JSON can be parsed as YAML
but, yeah, you lose the structure a bit

it's faster for humans, but slower for computers

[robust solar]

i have q

[smoky delta]

"hello" [ "material" ]
{
"asset"
{
"property" "1.0"
}
}

[vocal basin]

... until you have to debug why Norway country code turns into false

[robust solar]

is that Australianaccent

[robust solar]

can u help me

[vocal basin]

help with what?

[robust solar]

i got a website from ur dudes that they said is python main doc to learnn

[vocal basin]

docs.python.org ?

[robust solar]

thts right

what should i read i got confused a little bit

[vocal basin]

do you have the python interpreter installed?

[robust solar]

nah they told me u fine with vs

[vocal basin]

Visual Studio isn't that good for Python

Visual Studio Code is

but

you can try using VS for now

[robust solar]

...

do i gotta install some another shits?

[vocal basin]

https://www.python.org/downloads/

3.13.1

[robust solar]

cant i just use vs??

[vocal basin]

this is so that you can use Python even outside Visual Studio

[robust solar]

how many gb is that

[vocal basin]

at least an order of magnitude less than how much VS itself takes

[robust solar]

ok but where are the main things to read and lear and study

[vocal basin]

python tutorial covers most of the basic things

[robust solar]

almost 60gb i don want to delete it

[vocal basin]

in your case, 2 orders of magnitude

[robust solar]

what is this mate trying to prove

[vocal basin]

iirc, Python itself takes less than 0.5GB

[robust solar]

fr?

[vocal basin]

my current installation with a few packages takes up 450MB

[robust solar]

isn there any vc room here which is free to talk??

i really have a q

[vocal basin]

all four main VCs require the verification

[robust solar]

can move somewhere jus a sec??

like a server which has no one but myself

can i invite u?

[vocal basin]

why?

[robust solar]

i want to share sth on screen

it would be quick

when we done u can leave the server

[vocal basin]

you can record it and/or send a screenshot

[robust solar]

what are the topics what are the things that i should read

[vocal basin]

if it's about python installation, then video is suboptimal, screenshots are enough

[robust solar]

no it is about that python doc

[vocal basin]

go through the entire tutorial if you don't have anything particular in mind

[robust solar]

where is the beginning like its not as simple as w3schools

[vocal basin]

beginning is where 1. is written

[robust solar]

thats cool mate

ty bud

[vocal basin]

3. -- where coding begins

6. -- first proper programs

[robust solar]

???

[vocal basin]

https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/introduction.html

it assumes you've already installed and opened the interpreter

have you installed the interpreter yet?

[robust solar]

no i used to work with vs when i started to learn C#

[vocal basin]

https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3131

[robust solar]

i thought i can do every thing in vs itself

https://www.python.org/downloads/

is the download link??

[robust solar]

i downloaded this

look

@vocal basin

[vocal basin]

wait until it finishes downloading
(it's not yet finished on the screenshot)

[robust solar]

done what now

@vocal basin

[vocal basin]

open that file

[robust solar]

is it a installer??

[vocal basin]

yes

[robust solar]

now what

install now or customize

[vocal basin]

first, this

(enable it)

then click customise

[vocal basin]

next

[vocal basin]

install

defaults seem to be fine

[robust solar]

finished??

im using a 512 ssd can i delte em when ever i want??

[vocal basin]

now you can open python from terminal, search or win+r

[robust solar]

???

[robust solar]

do u mean this?

[vocal basin]

this one

3.9 is quite outdated, nearing its EOL

[robust solar]

alisa can i delete em ezly?💀💀💀

[vocal basin]

Windows itself normally doesn't depend on Python, so you can probably uninstall 3.9

[robust solar]

here

[vocal basin]

now you can follow https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/introduction.html

[robust solar]

thats finished???

alisa why is it so simple black screen

[vocal basin]

it's the interpreter

not an IDE

[robust solar]

aint it a n app like vs

[vocal basin]

you may switch to using VS once you get to part 6 of the tutorial

[robust solar]

ahaaaaa

so

[vocal basin]

which involves saving files

[robust solar]

thanks man

[vocal basin]

.... Visual Studio likely requires installing even more things to work with Python

[robust solar]

jeah as i told u almost 60 gygabites

whatever

ty

have a great night

[vocal basin]

@willow light clap+Rust everything
"just ignore the hours of compilation"

[willow light]

Zig has entered the chat

[vocal basin]

my only proper exposure to Go is still Forgejo Actions

I'd rather Go than Node.js

[willow light]

Although I'd say Go is my go-to when I really do need an executable

I also usually use Deno instead of Node.js

mostly to be contrarian, and to fuck with the devops engineers

I am working on learning Gleam

[wind raptor]

pynput

[willow light]

because erlang is good learning for great good

[vocal basin]

Actions supports four things:
Node.js
Docker
shell/composite (I don't separate these)
Go

[willow light]

cries in Jenkins

[vocal basin]

Docker Actions are pain and broken

Node.js is
JS

and I don't trust myself to write correct (ba)sh code

[wind raptor]

@ebon mist https://pynput.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

[vocal basin]

java java java

maybe some scala also

is there a BASIC dialect for JVM?

[willow light]

It's gettin' groovy in here

[vocal basin]

$4 seems to be minimal price here

though that's only 2 hours

I can get a steam deck

but the question is

why would I

[willow light]

It's surprisingly good

[vocal basin]

.wa 3F to C

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

View original for a bigger picture.

[vocal basin]

it's been raining here recently

[willow light]

I haven't seen rain since November

been all snow, sleet, graupel, and freezing rain since then

freezing rain being the absolute worst, of course

https://tenor.com/view/ice-coffee-gif-8767881

[vocal basin]

wearing almost same clothes in May and December/January is quite a surreal experience

[willow light]

I mean I usually wear tshirt and jeans, but I also dress in layers. I am indoors right now so the sweater is off.

[ebon mist]

!paste

[wise cargo]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[vocal basin]

(it felt colder in May, by quite a bit)

[willow light]

The good news, though, is I am getting free snow tires out of this repair...somehow

[ebon mist]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/45AA

[vocal basin]

... and that also way the same May that went from 0 to 30 Celsius

.wa short 0C to F

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

32 °F (degrees Fahrenheit)

[vocal basin]

.wa short 30C to F

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

86 °F (degrees Fahrenheit)

[willow light]

.wa short -40F to C

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

View original for a bigger picture.

[vocal basin]

-40

it took so long to send the message

vpn moment

[ebon mist]

40°F Denver

[willow light]

Well my buddy Ryan at the Mount Washington Observatory has been sending me snaps of the anemometer last night hitting 135 mph.

.wa short 135mph to kph

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

217.3 km/h (kilometers per hour)

[willow light]

that's some serious wind

[vocal basin]

.wa short 135mph to mps

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

0.0375 mi/s (miles per second)

[vocal basin]

oi

[ebon mist]

No heater

[willow light]

lol

[vocal basin]

.wa short 135mph to meters per second

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

60.35 m/s (meters per second)

[willow light]

freedom units here

it was pretty bad up there from time to time

[vocal basin]

we had persistent ~30 m/s around that time also

[willow light]

METAR KMWN 120551Z 31039KT 1/16SM FZFG BLSN VV001 M15/M15 RMK VRY LGT ICG 60004 4/006 931006 11128 21165

pretty nasty weather to have to go outside every hour to take weather measurements in

[ebon mist]

Low -5° to 20° if I'ma lucky

[somber heath]

@grim flare 👋

[grim flare]

hiiiii

[vocal basin]

it is somewhat annoying when small rocks are flying around

[willow light]

there's a reason the top of mt washington is best described as a boulder pile

[grim flare]

i cant talk again

[grim flare]

how are you men

[willow light]

.wa short -15 c to f

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

5 °F (degrees Fahrenheit)

[vocal basin]

!user 1315680349572829186

[wise cargo]

barad\_babaei

User information

Created: <t:1733753039:R>
Profile: @grim flare
ID: 1315680349572829186

Member information

Joined: <t:1736198554:R>
Roles: None

Activity

Messages: 14
Activity blocks: 3

Infractions

Total: 0
Active: 0

[willow light]

yeah that was both the temp and teh dewp

[grim flare]

nice

[vocal basin]

(wondering why "again" was in that message)

[mystic river]

again?

[grim flare]

yes again

[mystic river]

as per what Alisa pulled from the bot, you dont meet all the requirements from #voice-verification it seems

[somber heath]

@thorn spruce 👋

[vocal basin]

@somber heath "Clari said 'good morning' twice" was the joke I was thinking of along those lines

[grim flare]

🪽

[somber heath]

@flat hornet 👋

[flat hornet]

hello

[willow light]

.wa short -34F to C

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

-36.67 °C (degrees Celsius)

[flat hornet]

just curious what going on in here

[vocal basin]

we had this last February I think

almost

[vocal basin]

I like -30 degrees C because it means I can sleep with windows closed

(we can't control heating, and it's almost always too warm for me)

[somber heath]

@lavish dome 👋

[vocal basin]

I think it's technically the second most expensive thing on my table now

[lavish dome]

hey

[vocal basin]

poor financial decisions? definitely not

[lavish dome]

hi 👋

[somber heath]

@fluid gorge 👋

[lavish dome]

could some one help me for a code its like pissing me of i will pay

[vocal basin]

!rule 9

[wise cargo]

Rules

9. Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

[somber heath]

#❓｜how-to-get-help

[fluid gorge]

Hi

[lavish dome]

ow mb sry

[lavish dome]

hey

[lavish dome]

and could you help me like in dm ?

[vocal basin]

you can ask for help in #1035199133436354600 or topical channels

(or here)

[lavish dome]

i did but like its to build a code to a to z

so i think it would be easy in pv

[wind raptor]

Gotta head out for a bit. Cheers.

[ebon mist]

!paste

[wise cargo]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[ebon mist]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/R4OA

[vocal basin]

#voice-chat-text-0 message

[willow light]

!d dataclasses

[wise cargo]

dataclasses

Source code: Lib/dataclasses.py

This module provides a decorator and functions for automatically adding generated special methods such as __init__() and __repr__() to user-defined classes. It was originally described in PEP 557.

The member variables to use in these generated methods are defined using PEP 526 type annotations. For example, this code...

[vocal basin]

I think only docs

[willow light]

https://realpython.com/python-data-classes/

[vocal basin]

pydantic

[tulip dove]

Hello

[vocal basin]

is that even LTS

seems like there is no LTS before 8

[willow light]

"you will use java 6 and you will like it or else"

[tulip dove]

So what are u talking about

[vocal basin]

if Java 5 was LTS, they'd be using Java 5

[vocal basin]

The Enterprise

[willow light]

Java 8 was "too recent, needs more vetting before approval" as of Feb 2024

[tulip dove]

Enterprise on what

[vocal basin]

Java 8 officially ends in around 2030

that's when they might consider switching

[willow light]

And yet they were perfectly fine with me using FastAPI for a prototype that then was pushed to production because "well, if it works, why should you waste time making a production version?"

No shock that, with that attitude, the tech debt accumulation was so bad that all projects need to be restarted from scratch every three years, on average.

In my five years on the API Management Team, we went through three separate API Gateways

[vocal basin]

"only three?"

[willow light]

WSO2, Apigee, and then a homegrown solution

which was based loosely around Envoy

(CNCF envoy)

And they be like "the filters need to be written in lua, none of us know lua, so we're gonna grab random shit from SO until it kinda works at least 4% of the time"

[vocal basin]

graduated
hopefully not in vtuber sense

[willow light]

Graduated? Don't you mean "joined VShojo instead"?

or is that just from the niji escapees?

I offered to learn lua to make sure the filters were good, and documented, and also to write new ones. Their response was laying me off.

[vocal basin]

"now you have time to learn lua"

[willow light]

I had to solo-write the entire docs three separate times because I was the only person on the team of thirty writing docs. at all.

or tests, for that matter.

no docs, no tests, the observability boiled down to "anything other than a 2xx in a 30 minute period is an instant sev2", etc.

The company I was at employed around 14000, of which I am willing to bet 30 wrote tests at all. Maybe as many as 6 wrote docs.

[vocal basin]

code: 200
body: internal server error

[willow light]

But there was plenty a "please do the needful" in the JIRA tickets and Teams chats

[willow light]

SO MANY FUCKING TIMES

There were times when the jira tickets were the entire docs for what I was trying to do, in terms of "hey, you're going to have to use this internal API, all of the docs are included in the description in your story. estimated to be 2 points, and you are expected to code an entire client boilerplate in the process while also trying to figure out what the api does and whether it will actually be useful"

"you could ask Rushab how the API works, he wrote is 6 years ago, he's in a different department. call him at 4am, he'll be awake around then."

[vocal basin]

though (very) suboptimal, this doesn't sound too abnormal

[willow light]

And then the API itself only exists in nonprod because it was a learning exercise that then got ported to a hackathon and then pushed to production in the sense that the api proxy in the api gateway is in the production environment but the api itself is still in nonprod, and the code is on a different team's bitbucket app id, so I don't have access.

[vocal basin]

call him at 4am, he'll be awake around then
replace he with she, and that's basically me

the `me awake (intersect) office hours` time is a random unpredictable value

[willow light]

There was a way to see other teams' code in an innersource initiative, but that got shut down when the secrets scanner found that there were 700 hardcoded prod api keys, passwords, and even passwords for actual people.

Although I am suspicious of that claim, given it also claimed that me type hinting passsword: str in python was actually yaml

and yes i spelled it that way

[vocal basin]

imo sometimes tokens in code are relatively fine;
mostly just to fetch others pieces of code from the same git host

... better than using account passwords for that, at least

[willow light]

Oh the hardcoded passwords in the repos I had access to I checked, and some of them were things like "editing the value in our customers' savings accounts"

I screamed very loudly when I realized what that service account does.

Then there's the folks in one of the profit center departments who had the brilliant idea of having a master key service account for the entire department.

also hard coded.

[vocal basin]

bob:[e-mail]/billing-department-2/customer-cvv.git

[willow light]

the hardcoded master key service account password, btw, was abc123

so with that i could've gotten into any customer account and wiped it. naturally, I did the responsible thing and only told my friends in the red team.

I'm on the spectrum, which I like to describe as "too honest to be believed, too different to be heard", which is absolutely how my manager, team lead, tech lead, scrum master, and product owner treated me.

so when I discover a problem, I go to the red team since I know they'll be listened to.

While I work on a solution but wait until The Incident to deploy it, since the company had a habit of rewarding quick reactions and penalizing proactive people.

So yeah, I am actually thankful they laid me off last year. I have learned that not all companies are like that, just the toxic ones. And this one has developed a reputation for weaponizing toxic workplaces to try to drive attrition rates up to avoid having to do more layoffs.

[vocal basin]

(still doing this)

[vocal basin]

yes

[onyx arrow]

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-quantified-the-speed-of-human-thought-and-its-a-big-surprise

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_by_number_of_neurons

[somber heath]

@onyx arrow Every kind?

[calm smelt]

@onyx arrow thank you for your time to help me with gaining clarity.

[somber heath]

Or just those we have a name for?

Or know about...

“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”
― Nikola Tesla```

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory

“Nature may reach the same result in many ways. Like a wave in the physical world, in the infinite ocean of the medium which pervades all, so in the world of organisms, in life, an impulse started proceeds onward, at times, may be, with the speed of light, at times, again, so slowly that for ages and ages it seems to stay, passing through processes of a complexity inconceivable to men, but in all its forms, in all its stages, its energy ever and ever integrally present. A single ray of light from a distant star falling upon the eye of a tyrant in bygone times may have altered the course of his life, may have changed the destiny of nations, may have transformed the surface of the globe, so intricate, so inconceivably complex are the processes in Nature. In no way can we get such an overwhelming idea of the grandeur of Nature than when we consider, that in accordance with the law of the conservation of energy, throughout the Infinite, the forces are in a perfect balance, and hence the energy of a single thought may determine the motion of a universe.”
― Nikola Tesla```

[unreal thicket]

@Voice Chat 0 - hey guys i have designed a formula for prime numbers and this has been my personal research work for the last four years of designing product series for prime numbers:
https://github.com/Leoleojames1/Divisor-Wave-Prime-Complex-Analysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm72FCEZvto&ab_channel=BORCH

im also working on my speech & vision to text to text to speech & Image generation agent, called ollama agent roll cage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7TusPTnNXA&t=1s&ab_channel=BORCH
https://vimeo.com/1036385433
https://vimeo.com/1022776731

im also working on fixing my commander model which i have trained to explain the commands to the user, and i am also building it to eventually call the commands its self:
https://huggingface.co/collections/Borcherding/oarc-commander-66e7e6cfa4bbc652ff6c0699

sweet!

yea i am muted

50 messages you say?

sounds good then! i guess im on my way to my 50 messages I will not spam to get there 🙂

i realized i forget to send the repo for the oarc api which is entirely python

https://github.com/Leoleojames1/ollama_agent_roll_cage

this hooks into the nextjs frontend

and so you could set it up with any webui

but im designing this nextjs one that i will be upgrading to swift so i can put it on the app store

https://github.com/Leoleojames1/oarc-webui

more often than it being not possible, its likely already done @tacit crane

this is what i believe @onyx arrow is talking about, Large Concept Models
https://ai.meta.com/research/publications/large-concept-models-language-modeling-in-a-sentence-representation-space/

sorry i am all over the place

the divisor wave product is a product series which combines an infinite number of sin(x*pi/n) waves

[onyx arrow]

https://www.claymath.org/millennium/Riemann-Hypothesis/

[unreal thicket]

thank you 🙂 there is a video walkthrough i made at the top which is on my youtube but the paper has been my personal research related to many books i read in the basement at my college

i am 23

i need to go back to school

[onyx arrow]

Everyone should be an eternal student

[whole bear]

i came for the schizophrenics i stayed for the positive energy

[unreal thicket]

ai will do that hopefully

[unreal thicket]

i came for the positive energy and stayed for the schizophrenics

sorry i meant @lee when i said @onyx arrow

@calm smelt check this

https://ai.meta.com/research/publications/large-concept-models-language-modeling-in-a-sentence-representation-space/

@calm smelt you are better off paying someone to teach you python

@calm smelt same if you want you can come to me for ai questions i have a lot of people that come to me every week for random ideas even if i cant solve them i can push you in the direction to someone who knows

these are some fun shorts 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PgaVlCG00Tg
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fNRqpgWIQqw

[tacit crane]

from pgconnect import Connection,Column,DataType,Table



from settings.config import DatabaseConfig

connection = Connection(
    host=DatabaseConfig.HOST,
    port=DatabaseConfig.PORT,
    user=DatabaseConfig.USER,
    password=DatabaseConfig.PASSWORD,
    database=DatabaseConfig.DATABASE,
    reconnect=True
)



logs = Table(
    name="logs",
    connection=connection,
    columns=[
        Column(name="id", type=DataType.SERIAL().primary_key().unique().not_null()),
        Column(name="device_id", type=DataType.TEXT().not_null()),
        Column(name="ip", type=DataType.TEXT().not_null().default("0.0.0.0")),
        Column(name="level", type=DataType.TEXT().not_null()),
        Column(name="log", type=DataType.TEXT().not_null()),
        Column(name="created_at", type=DataType.TIMESTAMP().default("now()").not_null())
    ]
)


async def InitDatabase():
    await logs.create()
    print("logs table created successfully")```

[unreal thicket]

do you guys like ollama?

this is my 50th message!

[tacit crane]

Install GCC

And install code runner in vscode

[onyx arrow]

extensions
C/C++ extension by Microsoft.

Code Runner

you need a compiler
Install MinGW or TDM-GCC

add compiler to system path

gcc --version or g++ --version in your terminal

Open or create your .c file in VS Code

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18762621/can-we-use-c-code-in-python

[tacit crane]

ok

[somber heath]

!rule 9

[wise cargo]

Rules

9. Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

[somber heath]

In this server, help is freely given and received.

[tacit crane]

DIDn't TAKE ANY MAN

[robust solar]

@vocal basin hi mate i have some problem with this thing what the actual f does it mean???

what is python -c

[tacit crane]

pgconnect

https://gliders.dev

[normal dawn]

i will back in 10

eating something

[tacit crane]

ok

[vocal basin]

allows running python code from command line non-interactively

passing it as an argument

[normal dawn]

dota 2

[vocal basin]

joined a ~minute ago

went to another city for a ~week

big portion of the time there ended up being spent on programming anyway

two of the three projects were specifically for the new year celebration

one time thing

it wasn't work-related

completely disjoint

one app we made to randomly choose who gifts who
(secret santa-ish thing)

[normal dawn]

come on @molten pewter lol

[vocal basin]

another thing we made was to keep track of random "challenges" at the party

12 people total, 4 organizers

[vocal basin]

we had a table of who can gift who

and we adjusted probabilities so that it's less easy to guess

with gradient descent because I couldn't think of a better way

codewars involves more learning than leetcode, so even for easy tasks it might feel more difficult

[vocal basin]

the whole business logic fits in ~2.3K lines of Rust

no, that's separate thing

for challenges

https://docs.rs/cqrs-es

based on this

https://gist.github.com/afeistel/821809ccd8e87f7bb4705fb499f9810a

there was exactly one table in the database,
events

to get current state:
create empty (default) in-memory state,
load all events,
apply them to current state one by one

since there was very little activity, this caused no performance issues

leetcode has some very useful things

but for that you need to look up specific tags

[somber heath]

@molten pewter Soup to nuts?

[vocal basin]

"make it quickly" and "make it right" are often correlated positively not negatively

can we please use performant and productive instead of ambiguous "fast"

[tacit crane]

CLASSIC

[vocal basin]

1. deliver it soon
2. short execution time
   which fast are we talking about

[tacit crane]

2

[vocal basin]

I might be a thinking a bit too radically,
but I really dislike the "do it for your future self" viewpoint, because it undervalues how important things like documentation are in the immediate

write docs now because it'll help you now (and later)

@somber heath no

it's been false ever since Fortran

manually written assembly does not perform well

[somber heath]

Well-written assembly, then.

[vocal basin]

(being documentable is implied)

((if you don't yet understand what the thing does, you obviously can't document it yet))

I'd never ask GPT for docs

if documentation can be inferred from code, its value is 0

you must bring in external context

it can give hints, yes

[vocal basin]

... or any part of code

Russia

technically mostly Asia

[forest zodiac]

hi

[vocal basin]

that was a very funny wording, I shall write it down somewhere

my most successful exam result I had goes completely against that in terms of conditions that it happened in

barely any sleep

0 prep in a ~half month prior to that

[ripe viper]

TOS said you need to get enough sleep

?

[ripe viper]

oh

[vocal basin]

lmao I didn't notice how words aligned

my most successful exam result I had goes completely against that {in terms of} {conditions that it happened in}

^ separated syntactically

[ripe viper]

i see.

[vocal basin]

(also, it's "terms and conditions" if talking about rules of a service/product)

[vocal basin]

also overly stressed from completely unrelated things

0 brain room for the exam

[ripe viper]

i always thought it was "Terms of conditions", since it's obreviation is called TOS

[vocal basin]

Terms of Service

[ripe viper]

oh...

[vocal basin]

ToS, small o

[ripe viper]

thanks

no.

[vocal basin]

not really appropriate

neither is this

... and also other mods asked you not to post the latter one before

[ripe viper]

does it break the ```
Rule 7
Keep discussions relevant to the channel topic. Each channel's description tells you the topic.

?

[vocal basin]

there is no specific topic in voice channels

[ripe viper]

yeah, that's what i thought that.

[ripe viper]

...

[faint raven]

whatas up family!!!

[ripe viper]

what server is that from?

[ripe viper]

hello!

[normal dawn]

nice

[ripe viper]

👍

hello

not really related to anything above, but is there an SDL wrapper for python?

[vocal basin]

!pypi PySDL2

[wise cargo]

PySDL2 v0.9.17

Python SDL2 bindings

Released on <t:1735582047:D>.

[vocal basin]

allegedly existent

[ripe viper]

thanks, i'l look into it.

[tacit crane]

wsl --install -d Ubuntu

wsl --install -d Ubuntu

wsl --install --distribution Debian

[vocal basin]

Kali server sounds like total delusion

[ripe viper]

it's near literaly the C code in python.

[vocal basin]

as for Kali in gerneral, you can just install all the same tools onto a normal distribution

[ripe viper]

i only use 2 systems. I'm currently using is Debian, but sometimes use Arch(cause why not).

[vocal basin]

on the next server I get/configure, will likely install NixOS

[robust solar]

hello

[vocal basin]

@mystic river it's not "sending money" in the large part

the direct monetary impact is only for things that US needs immediately replenished (e.g. ammunition)
older equipment (which by now is most of what was sent) is just getting sent there instead of getting scrapped (so the price is only for logistics)

as for how Russia gets some of its equipment from Iran/NK -- the hell knows how that's getting financed

[robust solar]

is command of deleting terminal in vs code "cls"???

[vocal basin]

Windows?

[robust solar]

yeah

[vocal basin]

clearing terminal or closing the session?

[robust solar]

i actualy installed vs code today

[robust solar]

clearing

do u know me ??

saabumousawi

i changed my username

[vocal basin]

VSC has a separate command specifically for clearing the terminal

you can add a keybind for it

if you're using powershell, clear should work just like cls

[robust solar]

man i didnt knnow that vsc is more easier to use rather than normal vs

[vocal basin]

@mystic river it took AWS almost 4 years to decide to notify me they'll close my account

they really want that $1.14

which I can't pay for obvious reasons

[crimson gorge]

sorry

can i speak

[vocal basin]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[crimson gorge]

I cant!

please i want to speak . i have a question

[vocal basin]

you can type your question here

[vocal basin]

I have no idea how to mentor junior devs, but the company still wants me to do it apparently

[faint raven]

mentor me please!

[vocal basin]

"democracy"-based development sounds somewhat terrible

miscentralised

that's what Bitcoin does

[rugged root]

I still exist more or less

Was sick yesterday

And snowed in on Friday

[vocal basin]

(also, context: I'm formally a junior dev)

[faint raven]

@vocal basinplease teach me the ways senpai

[vocal basin]

@mystic river so, absorbed by IBM then moved to a different part of IBM?

[rugged root]

Can't talk talk right now.

I've got a co-worker back here. I just need you guys for background right now to keep myself sane

https://tenor.com/0KpRzSfwqO.gif

@faint raven DON'T STRESS!!!!

[faint raven]

thank you T-T

[rugged root]

STRESS

[faint raven]

i hate stress

[rugged root]

@peak depot Stop dying, it's bad for you

[faint raven]

@rugged root do you know how to use terrafrom?

[rugged root]

Still better to have some stuff to supplement the holes you may have in your diet. Even .01% is better than 0

[rugged root]

Nope, that's all magic to me

Honey and chamomile

[faint raven]

yes

[rugged root]

@mystic river Something something crystals?

I had to

Leeches

Delicious delicious leeches

They're sometimes used for when you reattach limbs

Since they have incredible blood thinning properties

The leeches I mean

Oh huh

They are also used for cleaning up pooled blood in the body

And this is modern medicine

@peak depot Tape the cats to yourself

[vocal basin]

I bought 1.8kg of licorice candy

important acquisition

[rugged root]

That's like... a little over 4lbs right?

[peak depot]

They have checked many times if I'm still alive

[vocal basin]

previous time it was 3kg

.wa short 3kg to lbs

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

6.614 lb (pounds)

[vocal basin]

.wa short 1.8kg to lbs

[peak depot]

Best!

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

3.97 lb (pounds)

[vocal basin]

look, hemlock, you're wrong

[rugged root]

Not the first time, won't be the last

[vocal basin]

"our leader Kim Jon Musk obviously excels at everything"

[faint raven]

lol

[vocal basin]

@rugged root "you can bring that mentality to devops"

woohoo fortine ban

isn't Ubisoft getting sold off to Tencent too?

@rugged root "brainrot of non-Chinese population is a profit of its own for them"

just like twitter, twitch got banned in Russia and no one cared

@woeful salmon also financed by Amazon

(Amazon gets increased Amazon Prime purchase count out of it)

[woeful salmon]

true i forgot that even exists

the prime subscriptions

lol

[woeful salmon]

fortnite at this point is just roblox for teenagers after they graduate roblox

it has every game, you can make custom games, it has skins for all

it has 3 different skins for just snoopdog even

[dry jasper]

To find the hardware ID of your SSD, you can follow these steps123:
Press Windows key + R to open Run.
Type devmgmt.msc and press Enter.
Expand Disk drives and check out the model name of your SSD.
Double-click on it to open its Properties and go to the Details type.
Set the Property to Hardware Ids. If your SSD is an NVMe drive, you will find NVMe on the Ids. Otherwise, it’s a SATA drive.

[marble vapor]

I don't think it's gonna beat roblox anytime soon though, they're both still different enough to retain their own separate player bases, although it is pretty interesting what they've done with fortnite

so I wouldn't say it's just roblox for teenagers

[woeful salmon]

outside of battle royale it prettymuch is xD