voice-chat-text-0

[small vessel]

i

Hi

[rugged root]

!stream 327179626306863104

[wise cargo]

✅ @quartz beacon can now stream until <t:1718805867:f>.

[modest thicket]

hi hi

[rugged root]

https://pypi.org/project/python-dotenv/

[modest thicket]

I'm starting to miss those days when I started learning Python and everything seemed doable...

[stuck furnace]

What'd I do? 👀

Oh

Right

[modest thicket]

who are you talking about?

[stuck furnace]

Fun fact: Napoleon was actually the average height for his time 😄

[stark river]

std::chrono::steady_clock::now().time_since_epoch().count())
it bothers me that this code is half namespace scoping, half methods

[stuck furnace]

He was exiled to Elba?

[stark river]

napolean was corsican no?

[stuck furnace]

Oh really, so I guess Elba probably wasn't too bad for him 🤷‍♂️

[stark river]

corsica 🫶

is beautiful

[quartz beacon]

@somber heath

[whole bear]

@quartz beacon yea I see that perspective that’s so true

[stuck furnace]

The full name is "X formally known as Twitter"

It was actually not bad at times in the past, if you found good people to follow

It was great for getting opinions on specific current affairs from genuine experts.

[stark river]

i used to get so many cases of "formerly known as" when i used to work for a bank

[stark river]

"formally"? or "formerly"?

[rugged root]

Formally former

[stuck furnace]

"formerly", I don't know why my spelling has become so poor lately

I'm always mixing up homophones

Back in a bit

[stark river]

inbreeding produces webbed feet so inbreds are just better swimmers 😂

[quartz beacon]

https://vxtwitter.com/chloroaura_/status/1383461781897576449

[stuck furnace]

🤨

Not really the most pydis appropriate topic

It really is

[sturdy summit]

Hello

Is it possible to have Windows 11 together with Linux on the same computer?

[quartz beacon]

yes

[stuck furnace]

Yeah, but you probably need to install Windows first.

[quartz beacon]

Dual boot

just install linux on your w11 machine, it will replace windows boot loader with GRUB

that's what it did for me

[sturdy summit]

My laptop is Windows by default

[quartz beacon]

can fuck up your timezones tho

so be vary

[stuck furnace]

Yeah I did until a while ago. Switched back to using only Windows after like 10 years of using only MacOS and Linux.

I have Linux installed on my old macbook

Oh, I don't mind they/them

I'm not generally concerned about it, I just added them because why not.

[sturdy summit]

What do you think about codewars.com?

[stuck furnace]

It's alright. There are a few websites like that. I personally like https://www.codingame.com/

[sturdy summit]

Oh nice, thanks for the suggestion

[molten pewter]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmer

[sturdy summit]

I am completely new to Python, and even though I don't qualify, I sent my CV to a junior Python developer position. Is it still a good practice for newbies to do that?

[willow light]

I have gotten into the habit of putting this in my code comments to screw with the AIs.

As well as anything I write,

https://wubuntu.org/ use this one

[molten pewter]

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=ubuntu+how+to+pronounbce+ubunt#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:5e7085c5,vid:j-inskOehOI,st:13

https://www.facebook.com/kwadjospiri.gh/videos/the-african-word-ubuntu-pronounced-ubuuuntukwadjo-spiri-shares-some-thougts-on-i/550781406590218/

[willow light]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/18/vermont-republican-water-bag

https://newengland.com/travel/vermont/maple-creemee/

[vocal basin]

good

that one, unlike leetcode, seems to provide actual educational value

[exotic moss]

hey hemlock

[sturdy summit]

Can someone help me with my code?

It's kinda long, but I need to find the problem

[vocal basin]

@verbal zenith whos type is Record?

@verbal zenith yes, report

that library lacks a blanket impl for references

@verbal zenith String::new()

?

for empty

@verbal zenith take &str or impl Into<String> as argument?

@verbal zenith label.map(From::from)

?

&'static str sounds okay there

-> &'static str since it's not borrowing anything

for Base

hmm

I don't actually remember how to force it to coerce to Option<&str>

@verbal zenith change it back, then label.as_ref()

iirc the issue was &Option<String> instead of Option<&str>

go back to when it was showing an error only on label in the calling code

not, like, in different place

where you rewrote it

@verbal zenith there is a place where you have label as &Option<String>

@verbal zenith let

!e

0b

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1
002 |     0b
003 |      ^
004 | SyntaxError: invalid binary literal

[vocal basin]

!e

0o

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1
002 |     0o
003 |      ^
004 | SyntaxError: invalid octal literal

[vocal basin]

!e

00o

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1
002 |     00o
003 |      ^
004 | SyntaxError: invalid decimal literal

[vocal basin]

why is int()'s ValueError saying "literal" too

that's not right

!e

int("00o")

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     int("00o")
004 | ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '00o'

[vocal basin]

!e

int("00" + "o")

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     int("00" + "o")
004 | ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '00o'

[vocal basin]

!e

from random import choice
int("00" + choice("abc"))

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 2, in <module>
003 |     int("00" + choice("abc"))
004 | ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '00c'

[vocal basin]

!e

print(int("aa", 36))

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

370

[vocal basin]

!d int

[wise cargo]

int

class int(number=0, /)``````py

class int(string, /, base=10)```
Return an integer object constructed from a number or a string, or return `0` if no arguments are given.

Examples...

[vocal basin]

positional-only, /, normal, *, keyword-only

!e

def f(a, /, b):
    pass

f(1, 2)
f(1, b=2)

[wise cargo]

:warning: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[vocal basin]

not defaulted

positional-only can be with defaults too

!e

def f(a=None, /): ...
f()
f(1)
f(a=2)

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 4, in <module>
003 |     f(a=2)
004 | TypeError: f() got some positional-only arguments passed as keyword arguments: 'a'

[vocal basin]

many builtin things in python are like that

!e

help({}.get)

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | Help on built-in function get:
002 | 
003 | get(key, default=None, /) method of builtins.dict instance
004 |     Return the value for key if key is in the dictionary, else default.

[vocal basin]

!e

{}.get("key", default="default")

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     {}.get("key", default="default")
004 | TypeError: dict.get() takes no keyword arguments

[vocal basin]

handle positional-only (here you handle lack of args)
handle positional normal (here you handle too much args)
handle provided keyword (here you handle unwanted kwargs)
handle required keyword (here you handle missing kwargs)

I think that's the order

!e

def f(a, /, b): ...

f(1, 2, 3)

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 3, in <module>
003 |     f(1, 2, 3)
004 | TypeError: f() takes 2 positional arguments but 3 were given

[vocal basin]

I just realised that "test" did nothing

I can't check whether lack or extra get caught earlier because those exclude each other

!e

def f(a, /): ...

f(x=5)

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 3, in <module>
003 |     f(x=5)
004 | TypeError: f() got an unexpected keyword argument 'x'

[vocal basin]

okay so that one is actually earlier

@verbal zenith so that you can block-comment-out code with comments inside

especially useful when you want to temporarily remove something that has docs inside which have block comments in code

outside comment /* inside comment /* inside comment */ inside comment */ outside comment

without it:
outside comment /* inside comment /* inside comment */ outside comment */ outside comment

and that's why Zig doesn't have them

[vocal basin]

actual order, based on errors, is:
check unwanted kwargs
check too much/too few args
check missing kwargs

yes

[vocal basin]

(parts of Zig's tokenisation/lexing can be done line-by-line therefore)

h should be clearer

9 is last part of the literal that it was able to parse

[stark river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C5AHaS1mOA

[rugged root]

Yo

Yo again

Can't talk outloud right now, got a co-worker back here

[twilit forge]

why is the st no highlighted

[rugged root]

Yep, just have to get over the hump

[modest thicket]

hi hi

[rugged root]

Yo

[modest thicket]

did you get a response?

air

[rugged root]

I don't really have a specific diet

[modest thicket]

another one for the clud of adhd hahaha

club*

[rugged root]

@quartz beacon I'm here, just can only type at the moment

@deep forge Sup nerd

Factual

I take up multiple loser slots

It's how I rolllllllllllllllllll

I think I can

Because I have a co-worker back here so I'm being polite

Always

Yep

Correct

Sup

Sup again

[oblique fable]

Hi , I'm new came today in server

[rugged root]

Welcome to the server!

[modest thicket]

welcome!

[rugged root]

@quartz beacon Wise

Correct

Uneventful

[vocal basin]

I always forget that site even exists

[rugged root]

Looks like a cryptid

Shadowl

[vocal basin]

@quartz beacon

[rugged root]

"Uzbexico"

Amazing

It takes so much will power to not use snake case in JS

Jesus, Hem

Get your shit together

[stark river]

it's not a steadfast rule

[vocal basin]

just use it

[rugged root]

snake_case

camelCase

[quartz beacon]

iHateCamelCase

[vocal basin]

camel_Snake_Case

[rugged root]

PascalCase

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/b2nis.gif

SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE

[vocal basin]

I was hoping it was a Wikipedia joke

turned out it wasn't

[vocal basin]

SCREAMING-KEBAB-CASE

[rugged root]

Card suits maybe?

[quartz beacon]

[SUITCASE]

[rugged root]

Those are in ASCII

It's called kebab as in shish kebab

With the skewer

[rugged root]

Why annoyed?

HA

Somehow add a little eyestalk character

!@

[verbal zenith]

soMevar

[rugged root]

Skill issue

They aren't sanitizing inputs properly

[stark river]

banking software is stone age

[rugged root]

Clari?

Understandable

COBOL-CASE oh no

God that would be icky to have to read all the time..

Write a story with that then?

Or slack to actual people

Don't be insulting to people regardless of where they're from

I don't think that's unreasonable

Individuals are individuals

I know, it's a raw thing right now

I get it

I know

Just a Hem reminder, that's all

[vocal basin]

@sturdy summit subset of Russians not Russians in general

don't forget the 0.01% of elves

[rugged root]

Well played

Well played indeed

AF is awesome

[sturdy summit]

I meant russian invaders, not russians in general

[vocal basin]

actually that is (people responding to survey)/(total population) not percentage among the survey
so the percentage is higher

[rugged root]

@sturdy summit How comfortable are you with classes now?

[sturdy summit]

Could be more comfortable

[stark river]

classes are functions

[rugged root]

Eh?

[vocal basin]

in case of python, callable

in case of JS, a lie

[rugged root]

Well, they're still working on it. You could call it a prototype

[stark river]

YES

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/xAYT.gif

[stark river]

those prototype lying bastards

[rugged root]

CV

No no

Like a resume

You'll likely struggle with the technical interview

[vocal basin]

that's exploitation not internship

any job, even if you know nothing, deserves pay

[rugged root]

Dude, so I know this is a dumb thing to complain about, but I don't like that you have to write out function to declare a function in JS

[quartz beacon]

^^^

[rugged root]

So verbose

[vocal basin]

it's their problem if they fail to onboard you

[rugged root]

fn or def or even let

Like

[stark river]

you don't have autocomplete?

[vocal basin]

const test = () => {}

[rugged root]

I do, but it's still annoying

[rugged root]

Also fair

I thought there was some weird underlying differences when you should use one vs the other, though

[stark river]

arrow funcs dont have this bindings

[rugged root]

Ah that's right

That's what it was

Just a pinch of coffee grounds between the cheek and the gums

[vocal basin]

also no hoisting

which some see as a benefit

[rugged root]

No

@quartz beacon No no no

[stark river]

how is that a benefit?

[rugged root]

What?

Ohhhh you're talking Italian style

@silk dust Espresso is incredibly finely ground, then you force hot water through it and it ends up being very condense and concentrated

They're both coffee, but it's how they're prepared that makes the difference

Yeah that'll fuck you up

I can hear him

No he's sitting

Nope

Fan noise

[vocal basin]

hoisting is implicit definition of a variable out of order
so "less surprises" is the "benefit"

[rugged root]

Espresso machine

[rugged root]

@stark river It sounded fine to me to begin with

But I may also just be used to it all

[stark river]

manually adjusting the source endpoint is tricky

[rugged root]

Wait so is it like a tiny percolator?

Yeah for sure

@cedar mason Sup

[vocal basin]

"not only is your hearing lossless, it also has the noise removed"

[quartz beacon]

XD

[quartz beacon]

0 bytes

😂

[rugged root]

That tracks, honestly. It's like my tinnitus

Just kind of tune out the noise part of it

Crap, back later

[quartz beacon]

👋

[cedar mason]

Oh no Hemlock

WHat happend?

[cedar mason]

We miss u

[spare galleon]

heewo

who wanna help me make cool

[vocal basin]

@verbal zenith do you want to take more than one item at a time?

first, use clap
otherwise, just .next instead of for

https://docs.rs/clap

[whole bear]

hi

[vocal basin]

for is syntax sugar around IntoIterator::into_iter, Iterator::next and while

by using .next you can also get rid of .skip

(just .next once and ignore the result)

waiting for AI to solve this (without just reading the solutions lmao)
https://parrrate.github.io/exercises/

tbf if it ever gets trained on solutions from there, not bad

[vocal basin]

oh, and if you ever want -flag syntax instead of -f or --flag, it's not going to work

[stark river]

this is all rust

[vocal basin]

worse

it's typesystem-heavy Rust

almost Haskell-level madness

but with lifetime pain

[stark river]

whyyy

[vocal basin]

over half of exercises there come from actual practical code

@spare galleon just a sound I think

@cedar mason it borrows some parts from bash

and Windows Powershell comes with some stuff to be more faimilar to bash users

like ls

[cedar mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay0zqCi17N8

[silk dust]

how

hysterical

done

[spare galleon]

Error code: PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR

[silk dust]

not sure how to completely disable but i have disabled using taskbar

yes

[vocal basin]

not HTML and not regular HTTP error

it's trying to parse HTTP response but can't

[cedar mason]

The PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR is an error code encountered in Mozilla Firefox (and other browsers based on Mozilla code) which typically indicates an issue with the SSL/TLS connection. This means the browser was unable to establish a secure connection to the website, and it prematurely ended the handshake process. Here are some common causes and solutions:

Common Causes

1. Server-Side Issues:

   • The server you are trying to connect to might be misconfigured or experiencing issues.
   • The server might not support the required SSL/TLS versions or ciphers.

2. Client-Side Issues:

   • Corrupted browser profile or cache.
   • Incorrect browser or system settings.
   • Problems with the installed security software (antivirus, firewall).

3. Network Issues:

   • Network misconfiguration.
   • Interference by proxies or network filtering software.

Solutions

1. Check the Website

• Make sure the website is online and properly configured. You can try accessing it from another browser or device.

2. Clear Browser Cache

• In Firefox, go to Options (or Preferences) > Privacy & Security > Cookies and Site Data > Clear Data.

3. Disable Extensions

• Disable any browser extensions, especially those related to security, privacy, or VPNs, to see if they are causing the issue.

4. Refresh Firefox

• This can fix many issues by restoring Firefox to its default state while saving essential information like bookmarks and passwords. Go to Help > More Troubleshooting Information > Refresh Firefox.

5. Check SSL/TLS Settings

• Ensure that SSL and TLS are enabled. Go to about:config in the address bar, search for security.tls.version.min and security.tls.version.max, and ensure they are set to the appropriate values (1 for SSL 3.0, 3 for TLS 1.2, and 4 for TLS 1.3).

6. Update Firefox

• Make sure you

you are using the latest version of Firefox.
7. Check Security Software
Temporarily disable your antivirus or firewall to see if they are interfering with the connection. Some security software intercepts HTTPS connections, which can cause this error.
8. Check System Date and Time
Ensure your computer's date and time are set correctly. Incorrect date and time settings can cause SSL/TLS handshake failures.
9. Reset Network Settings
Reset your network settings or try using a different network.
10. Test with Another Browser
Test the website with another browser to determine if the issue is specific to Firefox.
If none of these solutions work, you may need to provide more details about the context in which you are encountering the error for further troubleshooting.

[vocal basin]

(this was contextualised in VC as ChatGPT response, if anyone else is re-reading this afterwards)

((mostly saying that for mods so that it's clear it's not rule 10))

[silk dust]

yes, now just have to restart

[vocal basin]

you can post chatgpt responses if you label them as such

you said it's ChatGPT in VC so it's fine

[silk dust]

lol ik

[vocal basin]

Powershell nowadays is the main way to do command line stuff on Windows

it's also supported on Linux (e.g. Ubuntu Server suggests to install it)

I'm planning to move off Ubuntu eventually
(idk if I want to stay on Debian-based distro even)

I might even end up using Alt Linux lmao

if software you're working on doesn't directly involve visual stuff, you can use a remote Linux machine for that

[spare galleon]

or wsl

[vocal basin]

that's how I develop almost anything nowadays

[verbal zenith]

https://craftinginterpreters.com/

[vocal basin]

line 25 missing style comma
@verbal zenith is RR not showing formatting issues or is it just busy arguing about errors?

Rust Rover

(rustfmt says there should be a comma)

you can configure it

[fossil mantle]

@verbal zenith the programming language you make is compiled or interpreted ?

[vocal basin]

I really need strict formatting just because of how giant the project is

(those are lines)

oh, wait, not those vertical tabs

I thought about the character lol

@cedar mason I use it when I need light theme because for whatever reason I don't have it configured to dark theme
somehow

so, basically, "I use it accidentally"

oh and also second browser that doesn't take ages to start up like firefox when it detects an update

(on default settings)

I'm sure firefox supports installing update during runtime
but I can't be bothered searching for the option

Brave is cringe

I'd just rather not touch that

[stark river]

wats wrong with Brave?

[vocal basin]

monetarily cringe, including how they block ads

[cedar mason]

Nothing it's aùazing

[stark river]

well i use ff as my main..
brave is just there as a chrome alt for web testing

[plucky karma]

can someone help me set up visudal studio code im new to coding and need to use python for my internship, I just joined the server so i cant speak in VC

[vocal basin]

chromium and node use the same js engine,
therefore another reason: people want js to run the same way there and there

[stark river]

sorry i use vim

[vocal basin]

are you following this tutorial?
https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/python

[stark river]

also there is no setting up in vs code.. everything is ootb

[plucky karma]

whats ootb

[vocal basin]

out of the box

[plucky karma]

okay

[plucky karma]

oh no i havent

thakn you

[vocal basin]

for very later, "magic spell" to fix venv sometimes: ctrl+shift+p select interpreter

(VSC doesn't auto-activate venv as eagerly as it should)

((even when it itself created it))

(((how)))

[plucky karma]

what is venv

[stark river]

activate the venv before calling vscode

[vocal basin]

if you don't have a venv, you don't need that thing yet

[plucky karma]

oh okay

[vocal basin]

doesn't work with remote

VSC has its own way of activating the venv

fun fact:
you can delete activate scripts and it'll still activate the venv

[plucky karma]

wait are you talking to me

im confused

[vocal basin]

!d venv

[wise cargo]

venv

Added in version 3.3.

Source code: Lib/venv/

The venv module supports creating lightweight “virtual environments”, each with their own independent set of Python packages installed in their site directories. A virtual environment is created on top of an existing Python installation, known as the virtual environment’s “base” Python, and may optionally be isolated from the packages in the base environment, so only those explicitly installed in the virtual environment are available.

When used from within a virtual environment, common installation tools such as pip will install Python packages into a virtual environment without needing to be told to do so explicitly.

A virtual environment is (amongst other things):

[stark river]

no. parrrate

[vocal basin]

this is cursed but true

[plucky karma]

ohh

[vocal basin]

sadly there is no way to make it work this way without deleting scripts I think

[stark river]

bcoz it's present in its json settings until they are updated

probably some cache thing

[vocal basin]

no

it, by default, copies the activation command to terminal

but, if it doesn't find a script, it decides to update env variables when starting a terminal instead

idk what PyCharm does in that case

last time I tried to use PyCharm's terminal and python console it was too broken

@verbal zenith used for scoping of unsafe and other invariant-sensitive state also

same in C++ and everywhere

C++ Core Guidelines talk a lot about invariants

tbf that's kind of a "point this to someone if they do dumb stuff with the language" document so repetition is for the best and to be expected

@cedar mason closer to sealed class than just class

(as in what Rust structs are)

homebrew is in Ruby too I think

[verbal zenith]

@vocal basin would it make sense to store a mutable reference to a vec so I can push all errors to it as I parse other files even?

Then store sources in some other mutable vec

[vocal basin]

other options:
impl FnMut(Error)
&mut dyn FnMut(Error)
&mut dyn Extend<Error>
&mut impl Extend<Error>

[open quiver]

so its a dns spoofing

[vocal basin]

if you're not trying to make an iterator out of your parsing state

[open quiver]

ngx is fun

[vocal basin]

|e| vec.push(e)
&mut |e| vec.push(e)
&mut vec
&mut vec

are you making it multi-threaded?

if you expect it, just use the first option

you can always replace Vec with a thread-okay queue

[open quiver]

@cedar mason did you ever watch mr robot

[vocal basin]

parsing files in parallel sounds reasonable

if there's many of them

[verbal zenith]

yeah it does

just seems like something not to think about atm

[vocal basin]

@cedar mason double ratchet?

[cedar mason]

https://flipperzero.one/

[verbal zenith]

I'm more interested in how to make my error system more versatile

[vocal basin]

(the rolling thing or whatever)

[verbal zenith]

Can you think of an API if you will that would be nice to use? Should I use a struct that stores an ariadne report?

[vocal basin]

oh I just thought about encryption thing

that limits replay attacks

[vocal basin]

many report/tracing APIs have a "subscriber" trait where you can respond to references to events

and events themselves normally involve zero allocations to instantiate

(at least when they're repeated)

[verbal zenith]

Yeah I don't understand how that would work, any guides that speak on that?

[vocal basin]

https://docs.rs/log/latest/src/log/lib.rs.html#720-728

(args field there is just a thing you can display)

[cedar mason]

https://greatscottgadgets.com/hackrf/one/

[rugged root]

Please don't link stuff like this here

[cedar mason]

Sad

Why not?

[rugged root]

Because while it's important to discuss security, we prefer broad stroke conversation rather than "here's a full implementation on browser pen testing"

[vocal basin]

ease of mal-use

[rugged root]

We aren't the server for this kind of stuff

[cedar mason]

I'm not promoting anything with ill intend

I condem bad use

Hemlock you should know

[rugged root]

I'm not claiming you are. However we don't want something that's so easily abuseable just linked here.

[verbal zenith]

That's not really the issue, it's how easy it is for someone with said bad intent to hop in and click that link

[cedar mason]

You still need a basic understanding to set it up and do harm

[rugged root]

This isn't a debate

[cedar mason]

I doubt any newbie will do anything bad

[limpid vale]

the issue is mostly links I believe

[vocal basin]

struct Error<'a> {
    r#where: Where,
    kind: ErrorKind<'a>,
    details: Arguments<'a>,
}

[rugged root]

Links and giving code examples or implementation details on how to do stuff like that

[cedar mason]

Sad but ok

[rugged root]

Thank you

[plucky karma]

wait how do i create a virtual enviornmnt in vs

[vocal basin]

ctrl+shift+p create environment

[plucky karma]

i made a phython fial

[vocal basin]

it will be there somewhere

[plucky karma]

it has this

idk what to do

[vocal basin]

yes

hmm

[vocal basin]

did you do this?

[vocal basin]

"I'm more sad about how that project has four numbers in the version instead of three"

[frozen owl]

YOOOOOOOOOO

MY EXAMS ARE OVER

[vocal basin]

this one

[stark river]

life is an exam

[vocal basin]

spyder

[limpid vale]

spyder

[plucky karma]

now it says

to select either

venv or conda

[frozen owl]

@fossil timber what are you coding

spyder? jupyter?

[vocal basin]

first

[plucky karma]

now it says this

[stark river]

mersenne twister rng

go out drinking man

🍻

[vocal basin]

first

(3.12.4 one)

[stark river]

https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/how-to-setup-virtual-environments-in-python/

[vocal basin]

now create a new terminal

it should show a prefix in there

[vocal basin]

inside VS code

[plucky karma]

how do i do that

[vocal basin]

ctrl+`

` is to the left of 1

normally

@limpid vale VSC is in that intermediate class of something that's either an editor or an IDE depending on how you use it;
same goes for Fleet and (less) Sublime

[plucky karma]

okay i did it

[limpid vale]

Would you recommend VScode for scientists?

[vocal basin]

what field

[limpid vale]

Engineering or chemistry

[vocal basin]

okay, I'm not cruel enough to ask why not just use matlab

VSC has Jupyter support, if that's something you're familiar with

[plucky karma]

OMG

thakn you

[rugged root]

JupyterLab is actually pretty good

https://jupyter.org/install#jupyterlab

[vocal basin]

"JupyterLab+JupyterHub is more than just a careless Python environment, it's also a careless administration environment"

it is quite powerful

that thing allows shell access

[stark river]

there is a jupyterhub?

[rugged root]

Hadn't heard of that either

[vocal basin]

multi-user

[rugged root]

Gotcha

[vocal basin]

like if you want to have ssh-like interface to your server but in web you just use that

but only shell itself

no port forwarding and other fun

because browser

[plucky karma]

what are these what do they mean

zsh

[vocal basin]

zsh is the default terminal shell on the computer (macbook, I guess?)

similar to bash

[plucky karma]

oh okay

[vocal basin]

@cedar mason "you get to learn how to categorise stuff you don't care about, so you know how not to care about it better"

[limpid vale]

lmao

[cedar mason]

Minister of health

[limpid vale]

No I don't know what Juyper is

[cedar mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0S7rvHctL8

[vocal basin]

it's not surprising for people troubled with health issues to be more determined to fix healthcare for everyone

[stark river]

which chin is real?

[plucky karma]

isnt it the thing where u type code and the terminal runs right below the code

[limpid vale]

I thought something like that kind of existed

[plucky karma]

i had to use it for my course but idk how lowkey

[limpid vale]

But I suppose VsCODE being more versitile is nice

[plucky karma]

yeah thats why im tryna learn it

i only took intro to comp sci

im in HS

i used apache netbeans

[limpid vale]

Oh ok, well I just finished HS. I'm considering going for engineering or chemistry

[plucky karma]

me too

[limpid vale]

nice

[plucky karma]

coding is the one thing im bad it

but im supposed to use multi agent AI crews to support market research for this internship

[limpid vale]

I'm pretty ok in my opinion

[plucky karma]

where u studying at

[vocal basin]

since Java IDE got mentioned, I'm obliged to remind everyone that Eclipse is newer than IntelliJ IDEA

[limpid vale]

Sweden

[plucky karma]

ohhhh

im in texas

US

[limpid vale]

Cool

[vocal basin]

" fortunately it's 'Texas, US', not 'Texas, Belarus' "

there is some meme about Texas and Belarus being connected, I don't even remember where it came from

[plucky karma]

i neber heard it

i just know

that ppl think texas is like

the most obnoxious place ever

[vocal basin]

(need to research; brb)

[frozen owl]

i know this one

[plucky karma]

so my course says i need these things but idk what any of this is

so how do i do it

on VS code

[spare galleon]

ewwwww use dark mode instead of light mode, my eyes ahhhhhhhhhhh

[plucky karma]

LMFAO

idk how to change it

ill figure out later

thats from juypter

[vocal basin]

jupyter regular or jupyterlab?

[plucky karma]

idk

[open quiver]

2

[vocal basin]

is there a theme config in this thing?

[open quiver]

is better

[plucky karma]

theres this

this is on my browser btw

its a deeplearning.ai course

[stark river]

that is just jupyter lab

[plucky karma]

i want to follow along but on VS code

[vocal basin]

does adding /lab to url open the lab thing in that case?

it does open it sometimes

[vocal basin]

you can export the .ipynb and open it in VSC

https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/datascience/jupyter-notebooks

[plucky karma]

where?

[vocal basin]

what is the url of this site?

[plucky karma]

https://learn.deeplearning.ai/courses/ai-agentic-design-patterns-with-autogen/lesson/3/sequential-chats-and-customer-onboarding

this

[vocal basin]

* just jupyter (no lab)

[plucky karma]

it fully looks like this

[vocal basin]

I mean the jupyter page specifically

ah

[plucky karma]

how do i open it

[vocal basin]

so it's embedded, right?

[plucky karma]

specifically

yeah

its embedded

[vocal basin]

inside jupyter: file > save as/export (or something similar, I don't remember)

[vocal basin]

hmm

[vocal basin]

download as

there should be an option to save .ipynb

[plucky karma]

when i do it it opens a about:blank

for some reason

[vocal basin]

when clicking "download as"?

[plucky karma]

yes

and selecting .ipynb

[vocal basin]

hmm

it doesn't save anything, right?

[plucky karma]

nope

[vocal basin]

I guess they're preventing it then

[stark river]

that cannot be

[stark river]

you can always save to disk

[vocal basin]

https://community.deeplearning.ai/t/jupyter-notebook-download/358856

[plucky karma]

oh wait it worked

now

[vocal basin]

huh

good

[plucky karma]

it downloaded

now what do i do

[vocal basin]

yeah, now you can move the file to whatever directory you have opened in VSC

[plucky karma]

whats a directoryh

[stark river]

what is in your browser cannot be prevented from being saved to disk.. always

[plucky karma]

...

[vocal basin]

folder

[stark river]

does it fold clothes?

[vocal basin]

catalog

what other synonyms are there

workspace, in case of VSC

[vocal basin]

.

just without the "create" step

[plucky karma]

ohhh

i did it

[vocal basin]

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-toolsai.jupyter
(whether or not it works, I'm not sure)

it also needs jupyter installed in venv

pip install jupyter

(in the terminal inside VSC where it shows (.venv))

[plucky karma]

okay

i did hta

i mean it just popped up and i clicked install

when i run this second line it errors

saying no module named autogen

[stark river]

pip install autogen

[plucky karma]

how do you do that

[stark river]

in the terminal (bottom)

[plucky karma]

here

?

[vocal basin]

in this

[plucky karma]

ohh

okay

what do i type

[vocal basin]

pip install autogen

[plucky karma]

woah

okay i did it and a bunch of shit like

appeared

i think it worked

wait so what is pip installing

i cna just say that

and it will isntall whatever

or what

[stark river]

this means there is no function by that name in that module

[plucky karma]

oh

[stark river]

could be a version issue

some function was previously there and now is not

i'd check with the online version what packages they are using

[plucky karma]

the course has this in utils.py

[stark river]

there is a way to pip freeze the modules into a requirements.txt

[plucky karma]

im not sure what tha means

theses are the requirements

wait no

uh

[stark river]

these are the files in this directory

[plucky karma]

yeah

but i havent put that into VSC

idk.

[stark river]

trying to rem if there is a way to dl requirements.txt from a jupyter notebook

[plucky karma]

okay

[stark river]

try %pip freeze > requirements.txt in one of the cells inside the online jupyter lab that is in the browser

see if it creates a new file

[plucky karma]

wait where would i be able to do that

[stark river]

insert new cell

[plucky karma]

it says thsi

[stark river]

don't worry about it rn.. see if it created a new file in the files directory

[plucky karma]

oh yes i it did

requirements.txt

do i paste this into the terminal?

[stark river]

not in the terminal.. you can paste this into a file named requirements.txt .. or you can dl the file

[plucky karma]

once i download it thenwhat

[stark river]

oh autogen is a microsoft package not a pypi one

it was pip install pyautogen not autogen

[plucky karma]

so i just type that into terminal

[stark river]

type pip uninstall autogen and then pip install pyautogen

[plucky karma]

what was the shortcut for terminal again

i got it

[stark river]

the code should run the autogen part now .. it might give an error at openai package or dotenv package now

[plucky karma]

yeah it runs that but the conversable agent part doenst

[stark river]

you have to ask a mod @idle epoch

[stark river]

did you uninstall autogen and install pyautogen?

[plucky karma]

okay

[plucky karma]

yes

when i join vc it just rtc connections

[stark river]

it should work according to its docs

[plucky karma]

yeah

idk

what if i dont use juypter

do i rlly need it

for this course

cojuld i just follow along with python

[stark river]

if you know how to directly write a .py file instead of a .ipynb file then you don't need jupyter . you can directly write the script in python

[plucky karma]

i mean idk anything tbh

but like i thought juypter was a platform just for running ur program

and seeing the results beneath it

when i could just get the results in terminal

[stark river]

jupyter is only there to allow code to be run in separate cells.... you can copy past the code in python and run it all at once
but if it is not working in jupyter notebook it won't work in python
the issue is the missing packages

[plucky karma]

maybe removing juypter is gonna taek away some unnecessary complications

[plucky karma]

yeah

its the autogen problem

[stark river]

dl the requirements.txt file to your disk in the folder where your ipynb file is

my best guess it that you did not install to the virtual environment.. otherwise the package should have been picked up by the interpreter

[idle epoch]

Is it not possible to stream without a mod in the channel?

[stark river]

i dont think so

[idle epoch]

wow

[plucky karma]

i did that

but its just a .txt file

[vocal basin]

pip install -r requirements.txt iirc

[plucky karma]

how to do that

[stark river]

pip uninstall autogen pyautogen; pip install -r requirements.txt

in the terminal

[plucky karma]

okay

[vocal basin]

I've just closed VSC and it freed up something like 30GB of memory (client side + server side)
I think this is a record for me so far

[stark river]

oh wait its zsh so it is pip uninstall autogen pyautogen && pip install -r requirements.txt... either way it should work

sounds like a memory leak

[stark river]

where did you save the requirements.txt

[plucky karma]

here

[vocal basin]

1. yes, it is
2. also it's bad at reclaiming and reducing caches

[stark river]

it has a diff filename.. rename it to requirements.txt

[vocal basin]

mv "requirements (1)".txt requirements.txt

[plucky karma]

i renamed it

[stark river]

pip uninstall autogen pyautogen && pip install -r requirements.txt

[stark river]

it doesn't clean cache.. i have to manually clean it

[vocal basin]

exaggerated by the use of Dev Containers

great technology
at a cost

[stark river]

i dont know what that is.. i never had a requirements.txt that complicated...
try pip install pyautogen again

[plucky karma]

yea its a lot of shit in it

[plucky karma]

okay

uh

yeah idk

[primal shadow]

You can totally share a before and after iamge of the table

and we can see the results you are describing

realpython.com

[cedar mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRMmlo_Uqcs&list=PLIhvC56v63ILPDA2DQBv0IKzqsWTZxCkp

[primal shadow]

@idle epoch !paste

[idle epoch]

!paste

[wise cargo]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[primal shadow]

!code

[wise cargo]

Formatting code on Discord

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

[cedar mason]

https://5f08-81-244-151-10.ngrok-free.app/auth/

[idle epoch]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/KWHQ

[primal shadow]

@whole bear

[cedar mason]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIhvC56v63ILPDA2DQBv0IKzqsWTZxCkp

[primal shadow]

.

[cedar mason]

Soc Analyst

[plucky karma]

does anyone know what this error is

[primal shadow]

I would prefer if you not share my personal information with others 🙂

officially

it is mine to sahre

[mint knot]

h e l p

[primal shadow]

@whole bear

[mint knot]

I just dragged out my discord 😭

[idle epoch]

VW Golf Plus

[idle epoch]

Function for determining the closest color

def closest_color(rgb, colors_rgb):
r, g, b = rgb
color_diffs = []
for color in colors_rgb:
cr, cg, cb = color
color_diff = sqrt((r - cr) ** 2 + (g - cg) ** 2 + (b - cb) ** 2)
color_diffs.append((color_diff, color))
return min(color_diffs)[1]

[somber heath]

@dawn cliff👋

[primal shadow]

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/oct/03/toughest-race-at-worlds-smallest-mountain-australians-run-wheat-sacks-up-steep-slope-for-glory#:~:text=Mount Wycheproof%2C which stands at,to it as a hill).

[somber heath]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Kosciuszko

@calm bay👋

[calm bay]

hello

cant talk rn

someones in my room

i have a question tho

[primal shadow]

You should ask it

[somber heath]

Yes, I rather suspect that's about to happen.

[calm bay]

id like to screen share and talk twhe they leave my room

[primal shadow]

#voice-verification

and screen sharing you'd wanna talk to the mods, though they're not always available to enable a session

[calm bay]

nvm i just joined like 2 mins ago. ill have to be here for 3 days

[primal shadow]

You can always ask

[calm bay]

ill ask by typing

[primal shadow]

share screenshots here

[calm bay]

when i saw this on a lecture on python, i was wonder if i could do the same of using "str" function. I tried it my self and it surprisingly worked (second sc).

now im trying to find a way i can add x + y but i want to put the word "and" so the output can be oldest child's name **and ** youngest childs name when i use print(x+y)

i tried print(x + "and" y)

didnt work

[vocal basin]

str around input is unnecessary

[stark river]

print(f"{name_1} and {name_2}")

[calm bay]

thanks, i knew i could do that but i was trying to see if i could do that but using "+" function

i guess it doesnt work like that

[vocal basin]

name_1 + " and " + name_2

[calm bay]

just variables

e.e

[vocal basin]

only after getting extremely sleep deprived did I make the realisation that Python's print(f is visually reminiscent of C's printf

[calm bay]

thanks tho!

[somber heath]

from PIL import Image
from scipy.spatial import KDTree
import numpy as np

def apply_palette_to_image(palette, image):
    arr = np.array(image)
    kdt = KDTree(palette)
    idx = kdt.query(arr)[1]
    return Image.fromarray(palette[idx])

image = Image.open(...)
palette = np.array([(0,0,0), (127, 127, 127), (255, 255, 255)]).astype(np.uint8)
result = apply_palette_to_image(palette, image)
result.show()```

[calm bay]

oh, i see it now. It can still work with out it

in wht cases would using that work?

[stark river]

input always returns a string type

[calm bay]

oh okay

i understand now. Thank you call for the help!, i appreciate it.

[idle epoch]

Is this an improved version of mine? 🙂

[somber heath]

Some thoughts on the matter.

[idle epoch]

What exactly did you change? 🙂

[somber heath]

Made something that can be applied to the whole image at once, vs per pixel.

[idle epoch]

Okay, thanks! Unfortunately I still have the same problem as before...

Are you familiar with such color algorithms?

[somber heath]

The closest colour not really being what you want?

You want to determine what the closest is by giving priority or greater weighting to some other criterion?

[idle epoch]

I have the feeling that the function that searches for the closest color from the excel list does not quite work... there are actually colors in the list that would match the skin tone much better...

Especially in this area

It's much too dark and too "reddish"

[somber heath]

Preprocess the image?

[idle epoch]

In what way?

Or is the "closest" color often not the right one?

[somber heath]

I'm not sure. Maybe playing around with the contrast.

Eliminate those colours from the palette, maybe.

Anything that's too close to a specified colour.

[idle epoch]

Yes, but I also want to turn other pictures into mosaics... so I thought the more colors the better...

[primal shadow]

!rule 6 #rules

[wise cargo]

Rules

6. Do not post unapproved advertising.

[onyx kestrel]

is this where i get help with python?

I asked for help before but I can't find the chanel anymore

[vocal basin]

#❓｜how-to-get-help

[vocal basin]

buying parts for the new server

12 cores, 24 threads, not arrived yet

[cedar mason]

Someone pinch me bruh

I got my dream job

FUCK YEAH

I'm gonna sleep now

But god damn

what a f$cking day

[muted hinge]

congrats! 🎉

[cedar mason]

The guy i spoke to senserly restored my faith in humanity

I'm so amazed that maybe the world is not as dark this guy gave me actual hopes

Like

I'm still processing

How life changing

It was

Like i'm speechless

Aye cya guys ❤️

Finally my absolute sweat pain and tears paid off

Faith in humany from 0% to at least 10%

https://tenor.com/view/weekend-party-champagne-gif-18280013

Only took me 8 years of hell

😄

[cedar mason]

Thanks

[primal shadow]

The world is dark, you just found a bright torch.

Y'all's interview process is crazy fast. Here in the states they keep us guessing for weeks with either a follow up interview or just ghost.

Great gif too, fun movie

[cedar mason]

The world is rotting because of the people in power.
But i have learned that it's not all lost at the end.
There are people out there that are doing everything to make it better and i just met someone like that

they should be praised

Ironacally the only "heroes" we praise are criminals

killers get flashy names and docus with attention

Meanwhile the actual heroes get not enough credit

Believe me i thought (almost) i was never gonna find someone who actually has a positive and revolutionary mindset

If you told me yesterday i would call you crazy

[primal shadow]

All will be lost in the end, for humanity at least, the world will go on, humans living on it? Not if the summers start hitting 150 instead of 120.

[cedar mason]

At least we can try to save the world and make it a better place.

But as long as their is a world goverment that is just one big mafia we can only fight for a better future

And hope someone will put a bullet inside of every corrupt leader. a bullet is too peaceful & humane as a punishment for destroying the planet but ok.
If you give them the real deserving punishment like 20 years of pure agony & torture, then we are no different than these evil crapbags.

Until then

Let's pray

Amen

And goodnight 😄

[whole bear]

what is it enums in python?

[primal shadow]

https://docs.python.org/3/library/enum.html

[whole bear]

thanks

[solar dust]

@wise loom the haters

[flint oracle]

Hi

[limber salmon]

when i click on this function why does it lead me to the none variable?

@calm snow any idea

[chrome forge]

I got this error after running the program for a few minutes. I cannot run the program again.

[vocal basin]

!rule 5 seems like windows or whatever else is doing its job correctly

[wise cargo]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[somber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/pen-in-nose-breakfast-club-gif-7465442

[late spoke]

welcome opal 😄

[somber heath]

@open quiver

Up here.

[open quiver]

wae ty ty

ah*

so his channel is scammer payback>

?*

[late spoke]

sort of exposing scammers ..

[open quiver]

ah

i used to watch those all the time

i remember doing the anydesk reverse control lol

drop a exe file take control of their system

good stuff

or a simple rubber ducky reversal

[stark river]

one death is a tragedy, one million deaths is a statistic - J. Stalin

[open quiver]

thats a genocide....

[primal shadow]

not always, genocide is targeting a specific group

COVID wasn't genocide

COVID was disease

[open quiver]

in the situation of stalin

genocide

in the case of covid

disease

@primal shadow join vc

[primal shadow]

Yea, the heatwave is killing us here too

humid?

[open quiver]

90 here

😮

[stark river]

😂 ... i always buy the warm clothes from the country i go to..
i figure they are more suited to their winter

don't buy from UP and expect it to be nice and warm like a lined jacket

38C is painful enough

[open quiver]

the thought train has left the station

choooo

choooooo

[primal shadow]

I think the thought is lost

[gentle flint]

but also one million tragedies
just not all for the same person

[stark river]

tell that to stalin

[peak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/midsommar-dancing-turning-spinning-gif-15685623

Happy midsummer eve to all Nordics!

[open quiver]

💅

so true

[bold elm]

@rapid chasm can you repeat? what you drink?

ahhh

[rapid chasm]

https://product-cdn.systembolaget.se/productimages/27855/27855_400.png

[bold elm]

we drink only vodka in my country

[open quiver]

so true

💅

[rapid chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/midsommar-gif-22101692

[open quiver]

okay i must make break fast watch mr robot

im so close to finishing the show

try a nice margarita

☕

oooooh

do red bull and vodka

put your brain on wired mode

[bold elm]

its the best duo

[open quiver]

^^^

also very dangerous

but eh

[bold elm]

and add ice to this

[open quiver]

live life on the edge

redbull and vodka sounds nice ngl

[bold elm]

XDDDDD guys where did you lernt polish bad words?

[open quiver]

so true

LMAO

[bold elm]

:3

[open quiver]

doesnt meta do that

[rapid chasm]

That shit is dangerous my dude

[open quiver]

doesnt state farm do that

doesnt bank of america do that

[bold elm]

what?

[open quiver]

doesnt cloudflare do that

oh yes

[bold elm]

i did this soo many times

[open quiver]

i will do that someday

[bold elm]

and im still alive

[open quiver]

i want vodka and redbull

pound out 40 leetcode questions like i did once

super fun

[primal shadow]

I prefer not drinking and driving instead

[bold elm]

i have vodka but i dont have redbull

any kind of juice is good with vodka

[primal shadow]

I would not do grapefruit

[bold elm]

its depends from your preferences

[open quiver]

sure why not