#web-development | Python | Page 58

outer apex May 10, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Which return? The first one or the second one?

viral sphinx May 10, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Anyone familiar with Strapi ?

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Strapi JS

wild thunder May 10, 2020, 3:48 AM

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guys, pro tip:

werkzeug.security or bcrypt?

hard moon May 10, 2020, 7:31 AM

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Hello here

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I have a question about frontend frameworks like Angular and React. Sometimes while setting up a project I have to run a server. I don't understand why.

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For me, the server is involved only with backend stuff.

tired root May 10, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Webstuff is sandboxed, server regulates access to the files

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gist of it

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Browser does not allow access to the filesystem without permissiojn

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That is why you need a development server, even for plain html and js

hard moon May 10, 2020, 7:34 AM

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I see

tired root May 10, 2020, 7:34 AM

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And why is a server only involvedf in backend stuff?

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Who do you think sends the files over the network?

hard moon May 10, 2020, 7:35 AM

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And why is a server only involvedf in backend stuff?
@tired root I mean, when coding a website, only the backend is directly related to the server

tired root May 10, 2020, 7:35 AM

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No?

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Serving pure HTML does not even have a "backend"

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A Webserver such as Apache is primarily a http server, dynamic languages are plugins that tell it how to handle certain files, nothing else

hard moon May 10, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Ah I see now

tired root May 10, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Those files are still run by external programs such as php

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or python

hard moon May 10, 2020, 7:39 AM

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My goal is to use Django as pure backend and combine it with React. By using start-react-app command I thought I had to handle two servers, one for Django and one for React.

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At least for Production.

tired root May 10, 2020, 7:40 AM

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You need one for serving django, correct and one for serving the html with js

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Run gunicorn in the background, only allow connections via ::1 and have an apache/nginx on front that acts as a reverse proxy with a subdomain

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if they run on the same machine

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Then do another vhost on port 443 with TLS to serve the user, using the main domain

hard moon May 10, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Run gunicorn in the background, only allow connections via ::1 and have an apache/nginx on front that acts as a reverse proxy with a subdomain
@tired root I have to admit that I don't really understand it. I use Gunicorn on Heroku and Whitenoise to serve static files. Everything else is obscure to me.

tired root May 10, 2020, 7:44 AM

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::1 is the ipv6 version of 127.0.0.1

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Gunicorn does the uwsgi stuff and to protect it from bad boys, have apache at the front instead to serve your API to react

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or nginx

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they can be used as a reverse proxy, fetching the data from unicorn and presenting it via https

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or whatever you are using, but yes, you need 2 virtual hosts for that plan 😄

hard moon May 10, 2020, 7:47 AM

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I think I'm starting to get it. But what is a reverse proxy?

tired root May 10, 2020, 7:47 AM

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A proxy is normally used to connect to the web for example, in companies. You first connect to the proxy and the proxy acts as your public IP

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Reverse proxy is the other way around, the proxy acts as proxy for the gunicorn server to shield it from the public

hard moon May 10, 2020, 7:48 AM

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A proxy is normally used to connect to the web for example, in companies. You first connect to the proxy and the proxy acts as your public IP
@tired root It uses NAT?

tired root May 10, 2020, 7:48 AM

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No

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That has nothing to do with NAT

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This type of proxy acts on Layer 7

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Idk how to explain it differently. YOur browser connects to the Apache, the apache connects to the uwsgi server, fetches the data and sends it via https

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That is a Layer 7 reverse proxy

hard moon May 10, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Idk how to explain it differently. YOur browser connects to the Apache, the apache connects to the uwsgi server, fetches the data and sends it via https
@tired root Ah okay, I understand know

tired root May 10, 2020, 7:51 AM

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And that is why the uwsgi server can run on localhost, like a db

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because it does not need public connectivity

hard moon May 10, 2020, 7:52 AM

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But in the end, do I really need to have to pay for two servers to build the app?

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I wonder if it is a common practice.

tired root May 10, 2020, 7:53 AM

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In this case rent a vps, if you are comfortable administrating that

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all this can run on a single server

hard moon May 10, 2020, 7:54 AM

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I just want a React Frontend that will connect to Django through Django Rest API.

tired root May 10, 2020, 7:54 AM

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But if you want to split your website into a backend with Python and a frontend with react, then yeah, you need 2 vhosts. Otherwise it would make little sense

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A vps isn't that expensive btw

hard moon May 10, 2020, 7:55 AM

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But if you want to split your website into a backend with Python and a frontend with react, then yeah, you need 2 vhosts. Otherwise it would make little sense
@tired root I see, It was what I feared the most

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A vps isn't that expensive btw
@tired root Yes maybe but for the moment I don't have the money. Maybe later.

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It was for a small business. I want to build an online platform for gamers. I achieved the essential without Frontend Framework or API. But I wasn't satisfied by the feeling while using it. It was not as app-like as I wanted.

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But thanks for your help, I learned new things.

tired root May 10, 2020, 8:00 AM

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No problem, but try setting it up at home, as practice

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with e.g. WSL

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or a vm if you have Windows Pro/Linux

hard moon May 10, 2020, 8:02 AM

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I'm mostly working on Ubuntu

gusty girder May 10, 2020, 8:02 AM

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which is better to learn django or flask?

tired root May 10, 2020, 8:02 AM

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Get libvirt, make a vm and try setting it up

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@gusty girder There is no better

gusty girder May 10, 2020, 8:03 AM

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ok which one should i use

tired root May 10, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Django is more complete, enforces more strict ways to do things, Flask is more freeforms and has a smaller footprint, but you can load modules with stuff you are missing via addons

gusty girder May 10, 2020, 8:03 AM

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basically im new to web dev

tired root May 10, 2020, 8:03 AM

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It's up to you

gusty girder May 10, 2020, 8:03 AM

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hmm

tired root May 10, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Read about it, make a decision

balmy forge May 10, 2020, 8:04 AM

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If you are new to webdev, flask is more friendly as it guides you through

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But Django is the full package

hard moon May 10, 2020, 8:08 AM

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I suppose that Flask gives you more freedom and flexibility than Django

tired root May 10, 2020, 8:08 AM

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yeah, I also find that file with the routes very weird

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I personally like Flask better tbh

hard moon May 10, 2020, 8:09 AM

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I might give it a try later then. I'm mostly a Django and Node user

tired root May 10, 2020, 8:09 AM

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but then, I don't handle strict form rules in programming very well, one of the reasons I dislike rust

balmy forge May 10, 2020, 8:09 AM

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There is nothing wrong with starting out with flask / sanic / starlette / fastapi

tired root May 10, 2020, 8:09 AM

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I have a bit of an autistic side 😄

balmy forge May 10, 2020, 8:10 AM

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But if you find yourself redefining stuff django already has, it's probably time to move

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For example ORM-like data models

tired root May 10, 2020, 8:10 AM

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flask-sqlalchemy

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It's just a pip away 😄

hard moon May 10, 2020, 8:10 AM

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but then, I don't handle strict form rules in programming very well, one of the reasons I dislike rust
@tired root Hahaha I planned to learn Rust someday.

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You started coding how much time ago? (Sorry if my English is bad)

tired root May 10, 2020, 8:12 AM

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When I was around 13. There was this German Magazine, called 64er by Markt&Technik and they always had games as listings in Basic. So I typed them down to play the games and at some point, I started getting it

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Around 19 I got my first C++ book

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I am 41 now

hard moon May 10, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Impressive, I'm only 21

tired root May 10, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Eh, I am not that good of a programmer tbh. I am terrible with higher level math. But I manage.

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But then, it's just a hobby 😄

hard moon May 10, 2020, 8:16 AM

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Eh, I am not that good of a programmer tbh. I am terrible with higher level math. But I manage.
@tired root I'm terrible at math too XD

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But then, it's just a hobby 😄
@tired root Cool, It's kinda my job and side hustle

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But now I realize that its not the channel purpose

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I'll return to my code, thanks again

cloud path May 10, 2020, 9:59 AM

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hey guys

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i have an issue

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i'm scripting a code with a variable into a flask route

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but this variable cannot exists always, it exists only if a "if" is satisfied

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but i have to pass the variable into the render_template

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the problem is that if the variable exists the program works fine, but if the variable doesn't exist because the "if" is not satisfied, it doesn't work fine because i'm passing an inexistent variable

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do you have any idea to fix that?

tired root May 10, 2020, 10:07 AM

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variable = None at the start of the block

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the variable exists and can be checked if it has a value that makes sense

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@cloud path

cloud path May 10, 2020, 10:11 AM

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thank you! it worked!

faint bay May 10, 2020, 11:17 AM

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When I build a flask web app

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nvm

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:"D

knotty seal May 10, 2020, 11:29 AM

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@faint bay I built my first flask app yesterday

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It's pretty bad, but I'm proud of it.

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https://themercantile.pythonanywhere.com/

faint bay May 10, 2020, 12:06 PM

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@knotty seal I like it ^_^

knotty seal May 10, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Aww. Thanks 🙂

proud dome May 10, 2020, 12:28 PM

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CSS hover question: any idea why the first section on the left (legaltech) flickers when the hover effect resolves? both in and out ( www.thecodinglawyer.com )

this is the hover code: ```.frontimg1:hover {
transform: scale(1.05);
transition: 0.4s ;
}

.frontimg1 {
transform: scale(1);
transition: 0.4s ;
}```

native tide May 10, 2020, 3:30 PM

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How come I'm not able to get into vritualenv from my cmd prompt to vs code?

grizzled crescent May 10, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Hey guys, i did a website that track some covid datas : https://dani75i.pythonanywhere.com/

Feel free to say me that you Think in order to improve it

proud dome May 10, 2020, 3:37 PM

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@grizzled crescent just a small gramatical correction: 'data' not 'datas' ! 🙂

grizzled crescent May 10, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Thx @goonhoon

cloud path May 10, 2020, 3:40 PM

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guys i don't manage to upload an image through flask, it doesn't return me any error but the image doesn't load itself into the folder (sorry my bad english)

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this is the function, am i doing something wrong?

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def save_picture(form_picture):
    random_hex = secrets.token_hex(8)
    _, f_ext = os.path.splitext(form_picture.filename)
    picture_fn = random_hex + f_ext
    picture_path = os.path.join(app.root_path, 'static/profile_pics', picture_fn)
    form_picture.save(picture_path)

    return picture_fn

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if form.picture.data:
            picture_file = save_picture(form.picture.data)
            current_user.image_file = picture_file

and this is into the route

native tide May 10, 2020, 3:49 PM

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can somebody that's good with virtualenv's help me in sodium?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Im getting Error 521

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with Nginx running and ssl working

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as far as i can tell

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with gunicorn running

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server {
    listen 80;
    listen [::]:80;
    server_name crunchy-bot.live www.crunchy-bot.live;
    return 302 https://$server_name$request_uri;
}

server {

    # SSL configuration

    listen 443 ssl http2;
    listen [::]:443 ssl http2;
    ssl        on;
    ssl_certificate         /etc/ssl/certs/cert.pem;
    ssl_certificate_key     /etc/ssl/private/key.pem;

    server_name crunchy-bot.live www.crunchy-bot.live;

    location /static {
        alias /home/alevelsite/Kireina-Anime/webserver/static;
    }

    location / {
        proxy_pass http://localhost:8000;
        include /etc/nginx/proxy_params;
        proxy_redirect off;
    }
}```

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is my current nginx config

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Im not entirely sure how df i trouble shoot this

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so nginx is 100% running

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and so is gunicorn

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yet cf says its not running pithink

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Connect directly to it and see?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 4:13 PM

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god i am of the confused rn

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 4:14 PM

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What web host do you have?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Its just on a ubuntu VPS

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 4:15 PM

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when I've helped friends out on this, it's hosting provider blocked cloudflare for DDOS activity

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because all hosting provider sees is a bunch of HTTP connections from specific IPs only and nothing else

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So I would open a ticket with provider and ask about automated blocking

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Here is cloudflares IPs

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https://www.cloudflare.com/ips/

Cloudflare

IP Ranges | Cloudflare

This page is intended to be the definitive source of Cloudflare’s current IP ranges.

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 4:16 PM

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im actually so fucking dumn

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i accidentally deleted the DNS to the vps

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 4:16 PM

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that will do it

native tide May 10, 2020, 4:17 PM

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How come I can’t get into my virtualenv even though I type workon test (test is the name of my virtualenv)

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 4:17 PM

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okay nvm

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still is going potato mode

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 4:18 PM

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DNS takes time to replicate and CloudFlare has to wait for TTL to expire

native tide May 10, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Please don’t yell at me for this question I’ve been having a shitty day so far especially in this ds server 😔 But does anyone know how come I can’t get into my virtualenv even though I type workon test in my terminal window on vs code?

onyx crane May 10, 2020, 4:22 PM

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@native tide really sorry but wrong channel :/

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 4:22 PM

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normally you do <venv name>\Scripts\activate.bat

native tide May 10, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Oh cuz I was thinking since I’m working with django rn I thought web development would be a good place 😬

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But where can I ask this question?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 4:23 PM

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#❓｜how-to-get-help

native tide May 10, 2020, 4:25 PM

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I already have a help channel, it’s dormant tho 😖

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But I’m not trying to advertise it in anyway

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Not making that mistake again

onyx crane May 10, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Django
Can anyone link me to ressources / explain on how to build choice dependent ChoiceFields ? Drop-Down1 => Select Choice => Ajax Call => Drop-Down2 updates.

All the posts i found didnt help me out.

tired root May 10, 2020, 4:30 PM

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30232146/dynamically-populating-drop-down-list-from-selection-of-another-drop-down-value

Stack Overflow

Dynamically Populating Drop down list from selection of another dro...

My requirement is that for a selection in a 'meal' drop down list, a second drop down list 'category' should get dynamically populated with values related to the selection in first drop down list. ...

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All the posts i found didnt help me out.
@onyx crane If that is slang for "I couldn't just copy/paste it", then this won't help you either

onyx crane May 10, 2020, 4:35 PM

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@tired root wow thats a bit rude :D.

In this example the choices are defined inside the js code. I want to load the related model instances. Its often explained by the country, city example where the city options are reliant on the country choice.

=> choices cant be hardcoded in html or js, but must be loaded from the server.

tired root May 10, 2020, 4:37 PM

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then do a xhr to load the choices as json and go from there

onyx crane May 10, 2020, 4:40 PM

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whats an xhr :)?

quasi ridge May 10, 2020, 4:47 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMLHttpRequest

XMLHttpRequest

XMLHttpRequest (XHR) is an API in the form of an object whose methods transfer data between a web browser and a web server. The object is provided by the browser's JavaScript environment. Particularly, retrieval of data from XHR for the purpose of continually modifying a loade...

native tide May 10, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Hey guys

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What's a good platform to host Django/Flask apps?

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Other than Heroku and PythonAnywhere. Few criterias is that I need it to be:

Scalable
Cost-effective/Cheap

cerulean vapor May 10, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Small AWS instances can be had for free

native tide May 10, 2020, 6:03 PM

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I'm planning to use AWS S3 for storing user media

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not sure about the API itself.

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 6:13 PM

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can anybody help me understand the tradeoff between using AWS API gateway to call lambda proxies vs writing your own API gateway in something like django or flask or quart and calling hosted APIs written in a similar framework (or maybe even something like rails, just spitballing architectures here)

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i know they claim the cold start problem is getting better with lambdas but AFAIK the only win doing it the AWS API gateway way is getting caching for free--is that really worth it? or am i missing something else too

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 6:58 PM

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right

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im a bit at a loss rn

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Currently i cannot access the webserver

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even tho nothing is getting blocked by firewall

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nginx is running

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and so it gunicorn

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and cloudflare has the name space

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yet im stilling error 512

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 7:01 PM

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gunicorn log anything funky?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:01 PM

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nop

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everything on the webserver is saying its running

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ive added cloudflare Ips to be allowed by FW and even tried it with firewall off

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 7:02 PM

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does htop say you're near limit or something?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:03 PM

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nop

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Cf8

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What happens when you go to hostname assigned to VPS

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If you have containers, spin up Nginx hello world really quick

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It’s also possible something has bound to those ports locking out your true stuff

onyx scroll May 10, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Hello everyone ,
I want to implement a user profile-page type system where users can go to www. Domain/username and see user info there in django. How could I achieve this?

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 7:14 PM

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what kind of user info

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how many target users

onyx scroll May 10, 2020, 7:19 PM

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For now basic profile information

Username
Account creation date
And user inputted data

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I want every logged in user to be able to see it , I'm aware I need a protected route for this

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 7:20 PM

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yep

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then define a profile view with a route in urls.py with something like 'home/<slug:username>' if you want the path to be username

onyx scroll May 10, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Ok, anything else?

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 7:22 PM

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you can use the models.User class in your models.py

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and subclass it to extend later if you'd like as opposed to just using it out of the box, which is my recommendation

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put the logic for querying relevant data

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unsure what your scale is or database choice is, but generally this is pretty symmetric

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across those options

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write your template first (or whatever your actual static rendering will be) so you have an idea of what you'd like to display, then fill it up from the backend

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view may look somethign like

class HomeView(generic.detail.DetailView):
    template_name = 'home.html'
    model = User
    context_object_name = 'user_items'

    def get_object(self):
        return Item.objects.filter(item_owner=self.request.user)

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if you want to use function-based views, it's easy too, but my recommendation is to just use CBV

onyx scroll May 10, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Alright, thanks

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 7:26 PM

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np gl

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:33 PM

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@uncut spire im gonna try just remove the site from CF

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and try access it directly

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even tho it was working before originally

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 7:35 PM

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i imagine you saw the 512 in browser, did thhe nginx access log reflect that?

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or error log?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:35 PM

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how can i get the nginx log?

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 7:35 PM

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where does the failure occur server side is your first mission

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/var/log

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somewhere in there usually depending on your config

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:39 PM

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which log should i be looking at

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xD

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oh wait

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nvm i completely didnt read the big blue text saying nginx

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 7:40 PM

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probably start with access

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:41 PM

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hmmm

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 7:42 PM

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do you see a 512 in there

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:42 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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i dont appear to have a log called access

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and nginx is apparently empty

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 7:43 PM

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/var/log/nginx/access.log

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oh

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:43 PM

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hmm

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wait nvm

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access has shown up

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 7:43 PM

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in /etc/nginx/nginx.conf, can you tell me your lines for access_log and error_log

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ah ok

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:45 PM

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ohhhhhhhh i did an oof

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i did a really biggg oofd

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 7:46 PM

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?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:46 PM

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i very nearly forgot to re-enable ssh after firewall reset

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fuck me that could of hurt

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 7:47 PM

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haha yes

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but you only nearly oof'd

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:47 PM

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i had a breif moment of going "oh fuck i logged out"

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 7:48 PM

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your DNS just crashed

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Resolve-DNSname : www.crunchy-bot.live : DNS name does not exist```

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:48 PM

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hmm

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try now?

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idk if it was because it was changing name servers

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Resolve-DNSname : www.crunchy-bot.live : DNS name does not exist```

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I'll wrap into a loop

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:49 PM

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well this is another amazing thing to go with this other stuff

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I remember now why i chose not to deal with the website deployment on another site xD

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 7:50 PM

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if you want to watch yourself and running Powershell

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while($true){Resolve-DnsName www.crunchy-bot.live -Server 8.8.8.8;sleep 5}```

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:50 PM

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i am

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dns gone poof

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 7:50 PM

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BTW, this is technically #414737889352744971 issue

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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hmm yh probs

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lemmie try the other domain

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if i can find what registra it was

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 7:52 PM

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did you rotate your NS away from cloudflare?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:52 PM

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its still on CF atm

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 7:52 PM

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just pointed the A record towards your VPS directly?

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your code isn't open source is it?

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I wanted to steal your NGINX.conf and shove into nginx container to see if I could replicate the issues

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:57 PM

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the code is open source but the nginx config isnt there

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 7:57 PM

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you posted it earlier 😛

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:57 PM

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legit atm

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    listen 80;
    listen [::]:80;
    
    server_name crunchy-bot.live www.crunchy-bot.live;

    location /static {
        alias /home/alevelsite/Kireina-Anime/webserver/static;
    }

    location / {
        proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8000;
        proxy_http_version 1.1;
        proxy_set_header Upgrade $http_upgrade;
        proxy_set_header Connection 'upgrade';
        proxy_set_header Host $host;
        proxy_cache_bypass $http_upgrade;
    }
}```

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this is what a friend suggested

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 7:57 PM

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hit me with your github

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:57 PM

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https://github.com/ChillFish8/Kireina-Anime/tree/master/webserver

GitHub

ChillFish8/Kireina-Anime

A complete, dynamic intergration Anime tracking site - ChillFish8/Kireina-Anime

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ignore the mess lol

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 7:58 PM

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and you use nginx for proxy and gunicorn for actual python

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:58 PM

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yup

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btw this is the dns

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I'm firing up my development laptop now

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 7:59 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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and we back to 512 atleast

📎 unknown.png

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:01 PM

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when you tail the access log, do you see a 512

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:01 PM

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i get litterally nothing lol

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:02 PM

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and what is your access_log in your top level config

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/etc/nginx/nginx.conf

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:02 PM

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it does appear to be set to access.logs

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:03 PM

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check the error log

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can you post the tail of it?

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if there is anything that is

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:04 PM

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both are apparently empty

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:04 PM

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ls -al on them, maybe they're piping to stdout or something funky

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via some symlink nonsense

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let's also try kicking nginx to start this off: sudo nginx -t && sudo systemctl restart nginx

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:06 PM

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mhmm

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status ok!

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:06 PM

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so restarting nginx fixed it?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:06 PM

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no

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it still doesnt bind to the address

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but nginx is just saying nothing is wrong and its running

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:07 PM

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wait 521 not 512 http error...

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ah

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:07 PM

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cloudflare 512

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XD

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:09 PM

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you don't have anything for nginx do you

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and what is your gunicorn start command?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:09 PM

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gunicorn -w 5 main:app

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:10 PM

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got it

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:11 PM

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do a sudo ufw app list jusut to make sure you have all apps available

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sorry i need to go through the standard dumb checks before anything crazy

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:11 PM

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yeah its fair enough

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im going crazy already lol

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uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:12 PM

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looks good

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did you configure nginx to handle ssl?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:12 PM

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its on a flexible cloudflare ssl or whatever

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:13 PM

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right

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:13 PM

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so for me its still http (bad ik but just want to have a working https test bed)

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:13 PM

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yeah no worries, common initial proceedings

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but your nginx conf listens on :80

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https port is 443 and i get redirected to https when i try your site on http

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im not an nginx expert but i need that to make sense in my head, right now it doesnt

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:14 PM

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his earlier nginx had SSL files

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:15 PM

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yeah

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:15 PM

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ah

nimble epoch May 10, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Hi everybody

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:15 PM

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i tried setting up nginx with and without ssl cert

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shall i add the 443 stuff for nginx rq?

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:15 PM

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something like ssl on; ssl_certificate /etc/ssl/certs/cert.pem; ssl_certificate_key /etc/ssl/private/key.pem; ssl_client_certificate /etc/ssl/certs/cloudflare.crt; ssl_verify_client on;?

nimble epoch May 10, 2020, 8:16 PM

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I know Pure sqlalchemy and flask_sqlalchemy which one is better to use with flask? Or no difference?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:16 PM

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last i checked it wasnt any diffrent as Cs other some minor functionality diffrences

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btw for me, when i did ssl i just had cloudflare on full, so no cloudflare crt

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:17 PM

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flask_sqlalchemy is probably better integrated

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:18 PM

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+1 on rabbit's response, you're probably going to wind up retreading the implementation but YMMV

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so at some point you have to listen 443 ssl http2; listen [::]:443 ssl http2; no? im for sure missing something here if not

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:20 PM

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yh

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let me add it back qucikly

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:20 PM

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it may be i'm just not familiar with cloudflare's offerings if not

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ok

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:20 PM

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your requirements are only flask/flisk?

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gunicorn isn't required?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:20 PM

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i installed it separately

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:21 PM

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SRE Face: yert

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:21 PM

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xD

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i still gotta make an entire DB orm for this project if this freaking domain doesnt kill me first

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:21 PM

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lmao rabbit

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im also not sure how the client cert is unneeded

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:23 PM

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full on cloudflare is self signed ssl iirc

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:24 PM

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ah gotcha

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:27 PM

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im not sure if i understand this fully

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but the way im understanding how flexible works

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Flexible means it tries to encrypt but if it can't, it won't

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:28 PM

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is its https between CF and the browser

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and http between CF and server

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:28 PM

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HTTPS between CF and web server

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let's build a container

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:28 PM

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yeah im up for building a container lol

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:29 PM

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also, why nginx

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:29 PM

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idek

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first choice when deploying it with gunicorn ig

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had the most support for it when i was searching lol

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:29 PM

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this is one fat pythong container

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:29 PM

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😳

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:33 PM

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well, It's somewhat working locally

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I'm getting empty response

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:33 PM

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hmm?

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:34 PM

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is there some directory for webserver

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like server/api?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:34 PM

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<address>/home should be an endpoint

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:35 PM

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empty response from gunicorn container

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I'm pretty sure I'm missing libraries

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:36 PM

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the only dependancies are flisk and flask for python

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wait

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fuck

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did i forget the css framework

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not that should affect the original deployment i dont think?

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hmm no

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:41 PM

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you could have API that JS calls to gather the data

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:42 PM

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somthing like JS calling a python api to get the data to make the charts ig

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:44 PM

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CF8

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progress

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hidden cairn May 10, 2020, 8:44 PM

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maybe it just a client side thing and im just trying to shoehorn python into this

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:44 PM

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🎉

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thank god i havent stopped it using the css cdn atm lol

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otherwise it would a rather ugly looking page

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xD

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:45 PM

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that's using Flask

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now let's see why gunicorn hates it

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:45 PM

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before i tried to https it it was alright with it

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:49 PM

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BTW, this is why git is useful even for config files 😄

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opps

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ROLLBACK ROLLBACK!

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:55 PM

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yeah lol

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 8:55 PM

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anyone know much about sockets and integrating some type of socket server with a Flask web server? I don't mean websockets I mean normal sockets.

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:55 PM

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what's wrong with nginx?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:56 PM

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huh?

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:56 PM

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i just saw a "why nginx" and i'm curious

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:57 PM

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nothing

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but gunicorn is production ready

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so if they are not proxying anything out of nginx

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 8:58 PM

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@ornate solar yeah you just doing a Flask app.run somewhere? gunicorn is a pretty battle tested

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:58 PM

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yep

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 8:58 PM

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do i even need nginx?

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 8:59 PM

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unless you are having nginx host something no

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 8:59 PM

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@uncut spire yeah i use gunicorn on my production server but don't want the socket server be able to interact with the flask server

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:00 PM

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wait are you just running gunicorn in the background? i dont understand your use case then

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you want to keep your socket server, i.e. gunicorn, to not interact with a flask server (do you mean development server? this is confusing)

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in any case, one would want to create /etc/systemd/system/gunicorn.socket to be something like ```[Unit]
Description=gunicorn socket

[Socket]
ListenStream=/run/gunicorn.sock

[Install]
WantedBy=sockets.target```

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then you need ot make a choice of systemd supervisord etc

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and run your daemon from there

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:02 PM

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whats the easiest way to have them interact with each other

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Horray!

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that's in gunicorn docker container

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:03 PM

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nice

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:04 PM

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@uncut spire i only use gunicorn in my production server

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so my dev server is just the simple dev server that flask provides

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:04 PM

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when you say "them interact with each other" my confusion is what the two ends of that interaction mean to you

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 9:04 PM

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uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:04 PM

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do you mean dev server and prod server? they should never really interact

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 9:04 PM

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got it running on port 80

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:05 PM

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so basically we can just yeet this nginx stuff

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which makes shit so much simpler tbh

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:05 PM

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i want the socket server and flask server to interact

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like accessing the db and stuff like that

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:06 PM

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what db r u using

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most support sharding or multiple instances in most cases

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 9:06 PM

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CF8, DM?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:06 PM

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sure

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I'm wrapping up

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:07 PM

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@ornate solar read https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-django-with-postgres-nginx-and-gunicorn-on-ubuntu-18-04 and follow that kinda deal, let me know if you run into trouble

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ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:09 PM

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this is something more what im looking for

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https://flask-socketio.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

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but im using normal sockets, the client is going to be just a normal python program not a browser so thats why i dont think websockets work in my case but im not really sure

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:10 PM

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that looks like websockets

wary gate May 10, 2020, 9:10 PM

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"i'm not interested in websocket, i'm interested in websockets with socketio"

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jk that just looks like a websocket wrapper to me

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:12 PM

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im prob just gonna separate the flask server and socket server

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:12 PM

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so sockets and websockets are different concepts, i recommend reading more about each one

wary gate May 10, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Here's a stackoverflow with some distinctions, for reference:

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4973622/difference-between-socket-and-websocket

Stack Overflow

Difference between socket and websocket?

I'm building web app that needs to communicate with another application using socket connections. This is new territory for me, so want to be sure that sockets are different than websockets. It se...

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:14 PM

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i got that but all the libs that work with flask are for websockets

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i cant find one for normal sockets

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do libs like flask_socket and flask_socketio work with normal sockets?

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 9:16 PM

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normal sockets is not longer web

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I got CF8 his dockerfile but I'll reproduce it here so poundcake can see

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FROM python:3.8
WORKDIR /usr/src/app
COPY requirements.txt requirements.txt
RUN pip install -r requirements.txt
COPY ./ ./
RUN ls -R
ENV GUNICORN_CMD_ARGS="--workers=5 --bind 0.0.0.0:8000"
CMD ["gunicorn", "main:app"]
#CMD ["python3", "main.py"]```

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:19 PM

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LGTM

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@ornate solar so no, a websocket is something someone might use for setting up like a chat or streaming feature in their application, it doesn't relate strongly to the concept of regular ole "sockets." a regular socket is, roughly speaking, a bundle of an IP addr, a port number, and a transport protocol like TCP. in your context, it is more likely that you would use something like supervisord or systemd to manage socket and service files for your application, effectively running gunicorn for you. if you wanted something like chat, you would use websockets in your actual python code, using that connection to send and receive data instead of configuring how your application is run

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:28 PM

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its just for communicating from my local server at home to my digital ocean server

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no browser stuff which is why it has to a normal socket but the only libs out there that work easily with flask are for websockets

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:30 PM

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what is the purpose of the communication

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:30 PM

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home automation

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so controllers connect to the main ws that is talking to the local server

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:31 PM

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what data needs to be transferred from local server to digital ocean is what i'm trying tto understand

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this is starting to sound like it needs something other than websockets, depending on payload

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:31 PM

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status of devices on the network

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:32 PM

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give me an idea of size and rate of transfer please

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like an 'OK' every 5 seconds?

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 9:32 PM

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websockets work

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:32 PM

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for sure, but are likely overkill

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:32 PM

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but websockets are only for the browser

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:32 PM

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no?

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 9:32 PM

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no, devices can use websockets

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:32 PM

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n they are not

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:32 PM

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oh

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:33 PM

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but you may not need or want something tthat heavyweight

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:33 PM

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tbf wouldnt a simple REST api work

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:33 PM

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^this is what i'm trying to understand

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 9:33 PM

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websocket is method of transport, it runs over HTTP like setup but it's a socket

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:33 PM

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like one of my api's can easily take 500 requests a sec and on one of our others it handles 30k+ a sec 🤷

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:33 PM

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it could work but it would be nice for instant communication

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:34 PM

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what does "instant" mean to you

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:34 PM

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REST apis can still be "instant"

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 9:34 PM

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alot of IOT devices use websockets because it's easy to setup

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:34 PM

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this is why i was asking about payload size and rate 🙂

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also, what needs to be done with said data? does it just need to be displayed?

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:34 PM

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so the local server would be pinging every 5 sec which would be better to be like .5 sec delay

zealous siren May 10, 2020, 9:35 PM

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and firewall/routers are familiar with them

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:35 PM

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how big the payload tho

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:35 PM

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not very big

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:35 PM

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just status, i bet it can just be a string

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:35 PM

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surely a rest api would work then

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:35 PM

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it was going to just be a string of json

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should i just ping the server every 1 sec

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:36 PM

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that is one option. another option is use something like daphne to serve a websocket if you would like to go that route

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:36 PM

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isnt a ws a lil heavy weight tho for this

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:37 PM

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we're trying to get you to the best answer here

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agree, sending a string every .5sec or even .1 sec is doable with a simple flask endpoint in a local network if you want to set up the polling for it

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but again, really need to know what is being done with said data before recommending any optino

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:37 PM

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yh

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:38 PM

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also, this connection does not need to be duplexed--correct?

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one way reads?

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:38 PM

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duplexed?

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yeah

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:38 PM

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ok

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:39 PM

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i was thinking of using a socket so the server can instantly send commands to the local server

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:39 PM

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once again what is "instant" to you

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:40 PM

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less than .5 sec

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which is doable with normal sockets

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:40 PM

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you can use a socket as well--let's finish up what needs to be done with the data

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:40 PM

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something like {type: cmd, dev_id: 1, status: off}

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:40 PM

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i feel like REST might be the best choice looking at the size of his data

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and the speed needed

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i feel like a WS is a lil heavy for just that

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:41 PM

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no need for websockets or rest in all likelihood

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so what gets done with tthis data

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:41 PM

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the local server would see that its a command, find the device from the device id, and turn it off

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but with REST, the local server would have to be getting the main server every second

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:42 PM

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so, the connection does in fact need to be duplexed. data is going back from computer B to computer A

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:42 PM

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yeah in a perfect world

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:42 PM

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okay important detail right there

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:43 PM

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but u can do that with a normal rest api but it would be slower

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and i dont want to overload my droplet

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:44 PM

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another important detail. what are theparameters of your droplet

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:44 PM

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the lowest... one sec

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:44 PM

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1TB of transfer

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:45 PM

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wdym

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:45 PM

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looking at https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/

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ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:45 PM

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yeah thats it

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:45 PM

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ok

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so probably use vanilla sockets after all--no websocket needed, no rest API needed, you need to be kinda skinny on transfer just to play it safe

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something like ```import socket

s = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM)

s.connect(("localhost", 5000))on the client side and
import socket

s = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM)

s.bind(("localhost", 5000))``` on thhe server side

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you need to manage your s.recv and s.send pretty carefully to meet the specifications you gave

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:50 PM

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yeah i got the hello world working and not am trying to work it with the flask server

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:50 PM

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why do you need flask

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:51 PM

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is there no way to combine them

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:51 PM

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if you're gonna have a flask server you might aswell just have a endpoint and use a REST api

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:51 PM

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what i'm asking is why do you need to involve flask at all?

native tide May 10, 2020, 9:51 PM

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python manage.py makemigrations appname this line strictly makes the migrations file (e.g. 0007_auto_20200510_1745.py) and that's it, right? it doesn't do anything else as long as i have not yet run python manage.py migrate?

so if i want to in effect cancel the migration and make further changes to my model, then can i just simply delete that migration file?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:52 PM

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i wouldnt just delete them

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it can bug out like that

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just do makemigrations again after changing / reverting stuff

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:52 PM

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@uncut spire my flask server has all the auth logic, user management, db stuff

native tide May 10, 2020, 9:53 PM

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@quick cargo ok ty

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:53 PM

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so an endpoint on the flask side can sent a command through the socket to the local server

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:54 PM

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but...

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why would you have a completely separate socket server when you already have a webserver running

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instead of just having another endpoint

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:55 PM

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i dont want a separate socket server

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:55 PM

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ok so logic of exposing home automation software via a non-closed network aside, what it sounds like you want is basically socket-communication as a service, and now we're right back to REST unless you want to do socket-as-a-service in the background or something

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it now seems best to just run a minimal rest endpoint as @quick cargo mentioned

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 9:56 PM

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So you want a flask server that is also a socket client server at the same time?

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:56 PM

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yes

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:56 PM

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you'll need a GET and POST on each of those it seems

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i find that inadvisable

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but maybe someone has done something similar and please bonk me on the head with your knowledge if that's the case

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:57 PM

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i wouldnt go through the effort of doing all that

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considering it'll probs be slower than just another endpoint

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:57 PM

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it's just so much less work and you're already running the webserver so I don't see tthe point of it being asymptotically less network traffic

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 9:58 PM

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You can use aiohttp and async to make a server that acts both as a socket client and http server

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 9:58 PM

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with the rest option, the local server would have to GET some type of new_command endpoint every second

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:58 PM

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and?

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my rest api can handle upto 30,000 requests a sec

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 9:58 PM

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@quick cargo local?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:58 PM

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even running on my development server it can handle over 500 a sec without breaking a sweat

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:58 PM

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no need for async yet, think this is still a wtf-do-i-use 10000 foot conversattion

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:59 PM

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yh

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and async can cause more issues than good

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 9:59 PM

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It depends on how you use it

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:59 PM

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well it can also be a huge perf boost

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but it's not relevant yet in any case i believe

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Yup

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 9:59 PM

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i just saw yesterday how nice quart can be

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Quart is good but aiohttp is the real deal

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🙂

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 9:59 PM

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nah

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aiohttp server's are slow

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

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It depends

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

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and annoying to scale

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

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On how you use them

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

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if you are gonna go async do quart

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Quart does not support many flask modules though

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

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because blocking

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Yup

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

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you shouldnt be using flask modules for async stuff because most of it is sync

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

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what about native threading?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

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why?

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

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what about it

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

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It is impossible on python

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due to GIL

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 10:01 PM

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ive got my dev server to use threading to make daemons

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Is it python based?

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 10:01 PM

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it doesnt work on my prod server and i know i should use something better

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yeah

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:01 PM

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you can make daemons with python

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tho its a bit

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unsafe

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Yes

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Tbh if you want multiprocessing and scaling you could just use celery

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Or docker/kubernetes

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 10:02 PM

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i looked at celery

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:02 PM

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k8s scaling in awsome

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Yeah

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Celery is a mess to setup

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:02 PM

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not that any of this helps his original question lol

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:02 PM

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well tbh

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it sounds like he just needs a GET and POSTT

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:02 PM

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yh

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:03 PM

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What does he want to do again?

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 10:03 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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that

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:03 PM

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rest api

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just slap and extra endpoint on

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:03 PM

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that sounds like webserver is a proxy

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:03 PM

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dont make a WS for the sake of making a ws

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also

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if that is acting like a proxy

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:03 PM

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no websockets, he's talking about import socket stuff

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 10:04 PM

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^

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:04 PM

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wouldnt (god forbid) nginx do that for him

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:04 PM

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n

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:04 PM

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he says after having 12 hours of litteral hell

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:04 PM

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something like daphne

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i've done websockets witth daphne before it's quite stable

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:04 PM

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I am not sure what a webserver does in this scenario though

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:05 PM

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that's what i'm sayin

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:05 PM

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If this is IoT you can use a serverless solution

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 10:05 PM

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the webserver would be the interface for the controllers

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:05 PM

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but like

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why

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lol

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:05 PM

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^

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:05 PM

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I would make this serverless

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:05 PM

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^

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:05 PM

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just cut out the middle man lol

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Replicating amazon lambda

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And you can contact your devices directly

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:06 PM

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^^^^

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yo phone be a computa too

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Ya

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:06 PM

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do them beep boops device to device

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dont let me sniff your network traffic lol

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it's all one network right? you aint runnin some multiple-network home wifi right?

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:07 PM

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The only reason a webserver is needed is if the traffic between your webserver and localserver should be encrypted

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and you want to create a distribution network

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But like thats too much to make to control a fridge and a tv

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:07 PM

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and even if you want a nice frontend for it, just make an android/iphone app that does everything on the LAN

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:07 PM

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On React Native

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:07 PM

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it's not so bad

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:08 PM

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So you never exit that web based development

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:08 PM

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@rustic pebble just use your Samsung smart fridge to interact with the server to turn on the tv

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:08 PM

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5HEAD

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wesmart

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:08 PM

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it's important to note that we're not just putting you down needlessly @ornate solar , it's just you're shoehorning a webserver in there needlessly from the info you've given us

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:09 PM

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You will essentially have 3 different servers when you can literally do it in one

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Webserver, local server, device server

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lel

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:09 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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fuck

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wrong

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cri

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:10 PM

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I am making a huge app for a game (Valorant)

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I will supercharge it with features

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 10:11 PM

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@uncut spire im looking in designing a home automation system and already have my webserver set up for other reasons. I'm just trying to figure out how to control the system remotely

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Why can't your devices connect directly to the web server?

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 10:12 PM

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some just can't

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:12 PM

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What is limiting them?

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 10:12 PM

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their design?

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idk they just dont

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like a chromecast

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:13 PM

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If they can connect to localhost they can connect to internet as well

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I don't know why you would want a chromecast over the internet

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It has terrible latency anyways

ornate solar May 10, 2020, 10:14 PM

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yeah im just gonna make a simple rest server for the remote connection

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Are there chromecast sdk tools?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:16 PM

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btw, Thanks @uncut spire @zealous siren I havent got it running on https yet but im gonna sleep and deal with this on a fresh head, Atleast its not dockerized!

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:16 PM

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👍 here if it needs some helping

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:16 PM

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it is dockerized**

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:17 PM

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What are you making?

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:17 PM

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im attempting to just move a test server onto https

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cuz oauth2

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and its proven to be the biggest pain in the ass out of everything including making constants in python

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:18 PM

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You can forward the domain on cloudflare and get free ssl in 5 mins

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:18 PM

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what we've been doing

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:18 PM

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lmao

quick cargo May 10, 2020, 10:18 PM

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however it decided to go potato mode

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Normal, browser cookies

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How you set a cookie?

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It depends

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For example here I am using a cookie to save the user state so I can know which user just signed in

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def callback_wrapper(code, DISCORD_CLIENT_ID, DISCORD_CLIENT_SECRET, URL):
    token = get_access_token(code, DISCORD_CLIENT_ID, DISCORD_CLIENT_SECRET, URL)
    user_data = get_user_data(token)
    res = make_response('')
    res.set_cookie('user', data_to_jwt(user_data), max_age=3600)
    res.headers['location'] = url_for('index')
    return res, user_data

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This contains a json web token that came from a dict which contains stuff like user_id and user status

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The example above is not a normal login

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It is using OAuth2

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https://oauth.net/2/

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It is the login with discord implementation

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Using services that supports OAuth2 is the safest

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I am not sure

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I always use OAuth2 as it empowers you to add things like Login with Apple Login with Facebook Login with gmail

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np

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Ok so im going to aim to get a job as web developer and i want to start with Django. I wanted to ask if there are is anything else i should possibly learn

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:40 PM

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an entire stack

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Well you can learn web frameworks like React, Vue, Angular

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node

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multiprocessing

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web apps

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:40 PM

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and a db like mongo/postgres

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:40 PM

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stateless apps

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sql, nosql

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:40 PM

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As well as html,css,js

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:41 PM

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and know how to code outside your framework, too many devs that are lost outside of their framework

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:41 PM

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I can code in python so..

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:41 PM

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that'll do it

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Ok ok

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Ill just get a better understanding from some research

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:42 PM

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work through the django docs, deploy a django website to some free AWS or something, know how to deploy and manage a db (do some migrations etc)

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just experiment... it's the common theme of successful devs

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Im using sqllite at the moment

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:43 PM

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good enough to start 🙂

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Wats apache

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 10:44 PM

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apache and nginx will actt as proxy servers for your static content, to put it very simply

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you should read about both, they are both widely used

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Ok ill start with node

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And react

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I wouldn't suggest starting with react

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Than go from there

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Ok node😂

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Do you already have normal html/css/js knowledge?

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Yes

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Node isn't really something hard you learn it as you go

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I would use Vue if I were to get started on a frontend framework

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Tho my css needs a little work

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Ok

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Baby steps

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Yea take it slow and you will get good at it

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Once you are comfortable working around components

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Then react will seem easy

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Im fully commited so ill work on them 5 days a week

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There is nothing else to do anyway

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Yea haha

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:49 PM

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One last question

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What is this centering a div that i keep hearing about

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:50 PM

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?

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No idea haha

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:50 PM

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O well ill come across ot eventually

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Once i spent 3 years on this i hope i can use it for something 😂

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Haha

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It all comes down to personal will

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Im fully commited

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Well then you got a career possibility in front of you

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:52 PM

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I started learning python 4 months ago

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And i can read,code and underatand it

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:53 PM

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That is good

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Although you will find web development vast

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Since you have to deal with way more things that just one language

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:53 PM

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But django feels like a completely new thing

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:54 PM

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I have never used, will never use django

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I find it very bloated and time consuming

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I use React to build my websites

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:55 PM

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I wanted to use flask at first but chose django in the end

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:55 PM

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flask is better imo

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Ill get to it eventually

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Iys just difficult doing these things alone

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Sometimes it can get harder working in a team

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:57 PM

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My friend is doing a course on web develoment but he cant help me unless its with css

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@rustic pebble how so

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Because you are not allowed to express your thoughts as you want which can make you irritated

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I dont even know why i chose to learn python

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I origanally wanted to be a software, game developer

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Because it is probably dynamically typed, interpreted and easy to learn

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 10:59 PM

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O yeah😂 😂

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I picked up java aswell along the way

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Java is so bad imo

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 11:00 PM

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But it was so time consuming

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Java and PHP are the languages I don't know which I'd shoot first

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 11:00 PM

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I was writing 6 lines to print hello world

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I also picked up php

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Java was more fun

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:01 PM

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In their defense they both belong/come from the C-family

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Every language is like that there

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Php was easier then python but more annoying

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:01 PM

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php is strongly a server language

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python is the second best language for everything

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Another reason i picked it

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Well at least one game came out of python

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:02 PM

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But tbh, at least in my opinion, if I were to start now I would pick Golang

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Wat is that

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 11:02 PM

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lol no generics

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:04 PM

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golang is another language

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Anyway where can i find a good html template

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:04 PM

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lmao

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literally google

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free html responsive template

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I have started on a rough design for a metasearch engine

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I usually design my own templates

📎 2020-05-10_23-12-30.mp4

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I am making

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Ok so thats sorted

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 11:05 PM

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kiwi what's this valorant site you're making

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Do you know op.gg?

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 11:05 PM

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no

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Well it is a metasearch engine for league of legends

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 11:05 PM

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i play dota, is it like dotabuff? stat collection etc?

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Time to open that js text book

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Yea

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It is like dotabuff

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I am going to make it very advanced

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 11:06 PM

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amazing man

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Currently designing it but I will superload it with features

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I have like 2-3 months to make it

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Before valorant gets released

uncut spire May 10, 2020, 11:06 PM

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are you working with riot?

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:07 PM

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No

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It is just a possibly opensource project for my resume

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 11:07 PM

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I hope to make a site like that one day

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Yea it is not going to be difficult

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I expect huge load

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I have huge plans for that service

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desktop app, mobile app, website

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 11:08 PM

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I would love to read your code

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:08 PM

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I am going to do it on react typescript

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so idk how much you can understand out of it

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 11:09 PM

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😫

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Never mind

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:09 PM

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If I opensource it I will probably post it on the opensource channel here

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But I am not sure whether I will build anything on python at all

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I am thinking of a huge stack.
ReactTS for website
c# for windows app
electron react for macapp
react native for mobile devices

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Dang

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Your talking to someone who still sees that as impossible to achieve

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Nothing is impossible when you are coding

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And that is what keeps me going

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I like putting challenges to myself so I keep me motivated

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If I were to stick with the same technologies I would be bored by now

quasi ridge May 10, 2020, 11:13 PM

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decrypting a properly-encoded one-time pad message otta be impossible 🙂

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 11:13 PM

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I dont thibk imma learn the hard language

quasi ridge May 10, 2020, 11:13 PM

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quickly factoring the product of two thousand-bit primes otta be impossible

kind sonnet May 10, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Like c++

rustic pebble May 10, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Technologically impossible or programmatically impossible?

warm igloo May 11, 2020, 1:02 AM

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@rustic pebble Why C# on Windows if you’ve already built it in electron?

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Just for portfolio builder?

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:10 AM

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^^

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C# should be able to interact with the client api directly

warm igloo May 11, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Of course. You can build it once in react, for web, then most (if not all) will work wrapped in electron. No need for platform specific versions.

But as a portfolio builder sure why not? Flex multiple skills.

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Yeah, I am 18 this will look amazing for internships

warm igloo May 11, 2020, 1:16 AM

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👍

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I’d appreciate it as a hiring manager.

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The more code you can share with me the better.

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:17 AM

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I can’t give more info but it will be the most advanced meta search engine ever

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So you bet this will have loads of code

warm igloo May 11, 2020, 1:17 AM

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That’s ... ambitious.

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🙂

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I have built many things revolving around websites and webapps

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I am very confident I can build it

warm igloo May 11, 2020, 1:19 AM

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What is your data store? A search engine needs a fast data layer.

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Dynamodb

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I am probably going to use Amazon Lambda as a solution for it

quasi ridge May 11, 2020, 1:20 AM

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you'll get a job quickly

#

those are rare skills

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:20 AM

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I already work part time

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For a good amount of money

warm igloo May 11, 2020, 1:21 AM

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I haven’t thought about interns for this summer with the lockdown and such. Hmm. I should probably do that.

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Yea , I am planning to intern at a bigger company once I am done

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Probably move to US as well

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My goal is to study AI but it has to wait for now

warm igloo May 11, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Good luck. 🍀

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Thanks!

upbeat storm May 11, 2020, 2:23 AM

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can anyone help me with web development

ebon gull May 11, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Maybe depends on your issue

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@upbeat storm

upbeat storm May 11, 2020, 3:26 AM

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too late dude

ebon gull May 11, 2020, 3:27 AM

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My bad

upbeat storm May 11, 2020, 3:28 AM

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hey

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!close

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anyone literally anyone

quick cargo May 11, 2020, 8:46 AM

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what

tender crater May 11, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Does anybody have any experience scheduling periodic tasks on Celery (working in Flask)? I have correctly set up a periodic task but the crontab schedule seems to be ignored: instead of running every hour the task runs every 10 seconds:

 CELERYBEAT_SCHEDULE = {
    "check_istop_hourly": {
        "task": "tasks.update_is_top",
        "schedule": crontab(hour="*", minute="1"),
        "args": ()
    }
}

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 9:15 AM

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hello anyone here?

quick cargo May 11, 2020, 9:23 AM

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whats up

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 9:23 AM

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ok so are there any good tutorial on flask

quick cargo May 11, 2020, 9:23 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwZwr5Tvyxo&list=PL-osiE80TeTs4UjLw5MM6OjgkjFeUxCYH corey does a good set of YT tutorials

YouTube

Corey Schafer

Python Flask Tutorial: Full-Featured Web App Part 1 - Getting Started

In this Python Flask Tutorial, we will be learning how to get started using the Flask framework. We will install the necessary packages and get a basic Hello World Application running in our browser. Let's get started...

The code for this series can be found at:
https://githu...

▶ Play video

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goes through just about everything from setting up to database to deployment and ssl etc...

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 9:25 AM

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cool

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but then hes teaching to build a blog right

quick cargo May 11, 2020, 9:26 AM

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you can use the same principles with your own stuff

#

no matter what site it is, it still follows the same basic paths

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 9:27 AM

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but then

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he doesnt cover on using templates from google

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or does he

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@quick cargo the problem is i have downloaded some templates from google but dont know how to use them

quick cargo May 11, 2020, 9:33 AM

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what does your project folder look like atm?

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 9:35 AM

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huh?

somber wedge May 11, 2020, 9:36 AM

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Hello

#

Can anyone tell me how to validate a POST request using flask with firebase auth?

quick cargo May 11, 2020, 9:38 AM

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@gusty girder normally the folder with your flask project would look like this

📎 unknown.png

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 9:38 AM

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yes

quick cargo May 11, 2020, 9:38 AM

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by default the static and templates folder are supposed to be in the same folder as the main file

somber wedge May 11, 2020, 9:38 AM

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I want to make a backend which serves normal get requests and secure post requests for adding content.

quick cargo May 11, 2020, 9:39 AM

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to render some google template its the same as if you did it with that blog example

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e.g

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def home():
    return render_template("index.html")```

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 9:42 AM

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but to edit it ive to mess up with the html right

quick cargo May 11, 2020, 9:45 AM

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yh

#

you have todo that anyway to tinker with it

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 9:47 AM

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do i need to learn html for that?

#

and btw are there cool templates for free

quick cargo May 11, 2020, 9:49 AM

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yeah if you want to edit the pages no matter what you do you'll need to learn some html and css

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it doesnt take too long tbf

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 10:14 AM

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ok

quick cargo May 11, 2020, 10:19 AM

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@somber wedge Use somthing like Oauth2 then depending on ur backend lib its fairly easy to implement

native tide May 11, 2020, 10:22 AM

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who used Netlify before or uses it?

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I want to know if it's good to use it

fickle fox May 11, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Hey guys, I was wondering how can I upload images and post them in my "forum", image should be postablr anywhere in that post, i am looking for some docs or myb tut

vague vigil May 11, 2020, 11:18 AM

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Hi all, I'm a data scientist currently working as sole engineer for a company. I'm building a Dash web app, but have essentially no experience with web development.

I have a dockerized dash app that runs great locally, slow as hell when deployed on azure. It uses google vision OCR to get text from data, then performs some NLP on the text. Logs show the function to get the OCR results is a bit slower on the deployed app than the local app (2-3 seconds vs 1 second), but nothing awful. I checked my network tools and it shows a 21 second round trip time (client-server-client) with the deployed app, so that seems to be my problem.

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Dash has client-side processing using javascript, which looks like it may be the way to go. My problem is that since I use google vision OCR I need credentials. Can I safely hand that info to the client somehow so that it communicates directly with google cloud? Ideally something that can be implemented in flask.

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 12:15 PM

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@vague vigil Sharing credentials in any shape or form with the client app is a big no no. What you can do is create an api route that gets called and executes the function afterwards

vague vigil May 11, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Much appreciated, Kiwi. I'll take credential sharing off the table of possible options.
What you can do is create an api route that gets called and executes the function afterwards
This is possibly a dumb question - I really am quite ignorant around this stuff: is this different from what I'm currently doing? Currently I click and drag to select points. When I release the click, it fires a callback that does the following on the back end:

select pixels within the range of the selected points (box select)
send that part of the image to google OCR
receive the text from google
run the text through an NLP classifier
create a dash datable from this text
return the table

It's currently this process that takes ~2 seconds on a docker container run locally and 10-45 seconds when deployed.

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📎 sloooooow.png

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 12:40 PM

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where can i get free cool looking templates for flask

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 12:48 PM

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@vague vigil why dont u run it on docker then?

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 12:48 PM

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where can i get free cool looking templates for flask
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rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 12:48 PM

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lol?

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Penguin, as Azure SRE for my work, something is rotten, Azure should not be that bad

proven orchid May 11, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Hey guys, I just starting learning django few days ago. learned about models, views, templates. i also create a todoapp with create,update,delete functionality . But i am stuck now looking for what to learn next

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any advice

vague vigil May 11, 2020, 12:56 PM

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@rustic pebble because they want non-technical people to have access to it at a specific URL. Otherwise I'd just tell them to pull the docker container and run it.

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It is deployed in a docker container though

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 12:58 PM

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here is docker's quo "this program doesn't run on my computer" "hmmm it runs on mine though" thus docker got created

vague vigil May 11, 2020, 1:05 PM

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@zealous siren do you know where common network issues might occur? The current URL is public, so no firewall issues that I know of. It's an app service app with a Production 1v2 plan, though I tried Production 2 and it made no difference.

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Just to double check on the same image for fair comparison, the same thing that takes 21 seconds on azure is 2.8 seconds locally, using the same container.

📎 local.png

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 1:19 PM

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penguin, do additional requests go faster?

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the first one is obviously getting warmed up

vague vigil May 11, 2020, 1:25 PM

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No, they don't. And I currently have it set to always on, so theoretically there shouldn't be a warmup

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 1:25 PM

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weird

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and it's a container?

vague vigil May 11, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Yup

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Hosted on our azure container service

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 1:26 PM

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we have .Net Containers that do 30MS response time

vague vigil May 11, 2020, 1:28 PM

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I think I'll try deploying it on google cloud, see if I experience the same issues, and then go from there. If I'm having the same problems it's safe to assume it's something wrong with what I'm doing, otherwise I'll start messing with Azure.

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 1:28 PM

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yea, you can install Application Insights for Python

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https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/azure-monitor/app/opencensus-python

Monitor Python applications with Azure Monitor (preview) - Azure Mo...

Provides instructions to wire up OpenCensus Python with Azure Monitor

vague vigil May 11, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Awesome, I'll give that a look!
Thanks for the help yall.

thick cove May 11, 2020, 1:46 PM

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  File "C:\Users\Andre\Anaconda3\envs\Django Development\lib\site-packages\allauth\account\models.py", line 13, in <module>
    from .adapter import get_adapter
  File "C:\Users\Andre\Anaconda3\envs\Django Development\lib\site-packages\allauth\account\adapter.py", line 31, in <module>
    from ..utils import (
  File "C:\Users\Andre\Anaconda3\envs\Django Development\lib\site-packages\allauth\utils.py", line 12, in <module>
    from django.contrib.sites.models import Site
  File "C:\Users\Andre\Anaconda3\envs\Django Development\lib\site-packages\django\contrib\sites\models.py", line 78, in <module>
    class Site(models.Model):
  File "C:\Users\Andre\Anaconda3\envs\Django Development\lib\site-packages\django\db\models\base.py", line 115, in __new__
    "INSTALLED_APPS." % (module, name)
RuntimeError: Model class django.contrib.sites.models.Site doesn't declare an explicit app_label and isn't in an application in INSTALLED_APPS.

Hey, I'm trying to make a discord login for my Django website, following the allauth introduction and I get this.

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Discord login uses the OAuth2 schema

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:49 PM

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flask is for backend web development right

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:49 PM

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It needs different implementation

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flask is for backend web development rigth
@gusty girder Yes

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:49 PM

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then how do i customize the front end ui

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to make it look cool

thick cove May 11, 2020, 1:50 PM

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allauth supports discord login, but that error doesent look OAuth or allauth related

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:51 PM

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@gusty girder by writing the frontend

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:51 PM

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but then that requires html knowledge right

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:51 PM

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@thick cove I am not really proficient on django sorry

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but then that requires html knowledge right
@gusty girder Yes, javascript as well

lapis charm May 11, 2020, 1:52 PM

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if you are writing basic pages you will most likely use basic html css and js

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:52 PM

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isnt there a way to customize it without html css and js

thick cove May 11, 2020, 1:52 PM

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just add bootstrap 👍

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:52 PM

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bootstrap?

thick cove May 11, 2020, 1:52 PM

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yes.

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:52 PM

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whats that?

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:53 PM

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isnt there a way to customize it without html css and js
@gusty girder there isn't a way to do this no

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You will need to use at minimum html and css for it

lapis charm May 11, 2020, 1:53 PM

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that is good idea to start without knowing much of how css work

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Bootstrap is a CSS module

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:53 PM

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ok ill check on bootstrap

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 1:53 PM

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it will look like bootstrap

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:53 PM

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so ill be able to customize the front end part with that

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Yes

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 1:54 PM

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to do front end, you need HTML/CSS/JS

lapis charm May 11, 2020, 1:54 PM

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you write basic html then add bootstrap to make it better without writing your own css

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:54 PM

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oh ok

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are there any tutorials?

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 1:54 PM

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to make modern looking SPA you see today, JS is required

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:54 PM

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what about templates?

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:55 PM

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to make modern looking SPA you see today, JS is required
@zealous siren You dont need to make a SPA in order to look modern lol

cold anchor May 11, 2020, 1:55 PM

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just start here https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.4/getting-started/introduction/

Introduction

Get started with Bootstrap, the world’s most popular framework for building responsive, mobile-first sites, with BootstrapCDN and a template starter page.

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:55 PM

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ok

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what about templates?
the ones you get online

lapis charm May 11, 2020, 1:55 PM

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since you dont have a basic idea of html css start with that first worry about the rest later

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:56 PM

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okay

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is html easily to learn?

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Kiwi, when you make those really "slow" post calls, lack of JS will reveal itself 😛

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:56 PM

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or is it like django with the complex stuff?

lapis charm May 11, 2020, 1:57 PM

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what are you referring to ?

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:57 PM

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@zealous siren simple fetchapi does the trick for most things except live updates

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Sure and if you don't need it, that's fine

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but modern type stuff you see from Google/Facebook will totally require you to know JS

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:58 PM

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what are you referring to ?
is html complex or is it easy to learn

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:58 PM

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They are based on modern frameworks

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:58 PM

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but modern type stuff you see from Google/Facebook will totally require you to know JS
oh

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:58 PM

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So yes you need state managers, sockets, clusters

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 1:58 PM

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like G Mail is JS hell

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Gmail is probably socket based

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 1:58 PM

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some of it is, yess

lapis charm May 11, 2020, 1:58 PM

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html is very is to learn it is not even a programming language

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 1:59 PM

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but JS powers those websockets

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for front end

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 1:59 PM

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oh ok

rustic pebble May 11, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Yes, javascript does power them

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But then again it isn't pure javascript

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 2:00 PM

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so ill learn css,javascript and html after getting used to flask and java

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 2:01 PM

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python and Java? going crazy there

lapis charm May 11, 2020, 2:01 PM

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you would not need much java if youre trying to get into web

gusty girder May 11, 2020, 2:01 PM

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is django backend too?

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 2:01 PM

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there is a ton of web powered by java

quick cargo May 11, 2020, 2:01 PM

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yes

lapis charm May 11, 2020, 2:01 PM

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jsp still exists?

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 2:02 PM

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no

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but java powers a ton of backends

quick cargo May 11, 2020, 2:02 PM

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mhmm

zealous siren May 11, 2020, 2:02 PM

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JSP might exist, no one outside really old enterprise to hell uses it anymore