I was just annoyed by imageboards in general not having Boolean operators like OR and XOR
#web-development
cyan pilot
olive oxide
tbf e6 api is pretty god tier
cyan pilot
yeah, I was surprised it had so much
yesterday I looked at the r34 api
it's literally just this
olive oxide
never had a shot at theirs
reason being I dislike both of their sites
pop up ads out the ass
cyan pilot
cyan pilot
?
olive oxide
e6's font and formatting look identical to me
cyan pilot
r34 is completely custom, but the odds of them having the same font aren't that bad
as for formatting
well, I dunno
olive oxide
maybe it's just drawn porn apis around the world
mild bridge
cyan pilot
olive oxide
cyan pilot
For someone with zero requests experience and zero HTTP experience, it was very easy for me to figure out
olive oxide
thought i was stroking out for a sec
e6's api is the first I used and I'm glad I started with it
not just cause of the content
cyan pilot
I would've started with e6, but r34's just looked so simple that it only took literally 10 seconds to get results
olive oxide
does r34 also support searching by md5?
probably not since filenames aren't md5 and it's not stored in the same way as e6
cyan pilot
Not by md5, but you do have access to them afaik
then 20 minutes after I was parsing URLs consistently
olive oxide
funny this gets mentioned cause I'm writing something to sort your local collection by tags by the magic of searching by md5
cyan pilot
? after a *,+, or a {x,y} makes it non-greedy btw
olive oxide
greedy?
cyan pilot
greedy means it makes the largest match possible
non-greedy means it goes for the smallest
olive oxide
ah
cyan pilot
so if you do a greedy search in a book with r'"(.+)"'
It will get the first and last quotation mark, with everything between them
Well, . actually doesn't count as newline so that isn't true
But if you didr'"(.+?)"' instead, it would give you shortest match
olive oxide
cyan pilot
So you'd probably get "Huh?" instead of "(Entire book here)"
but yeah, I'm making an application just to browse these sites
wihtout having to open my browser
olive oxide
interesting
cyan pilot
I plan on saving search history, having fancy boolean operators, and being able to batch-save images.
cyan pilot
next up, start a patreon and sell it to people
hey guys be sure to come by and donate to my patreon
olive oxide
i already donate 10% of my wealth to the church of xnirox
cyan pilot
better than the church of xXx_darkwulf_xXx
but yeah, I started all of this because I was grumpy about lack of Boolean operators
olive oxide
if ur not a variation of "shadow wolf" ur bad
cyan pilot
I might also implement a soft-search mode, which only requires one of the entered tags
it would just be a checkbox
pretty simple too, just do a search for each set of tags, then merge the results
I should also make it entirely usable in a left-handed mode
cyan pilot
No, it was to expand my porn collection and also tag it
And get better searches
cus some sites have crappy tagging, so an OR operator is needed to search for one type of image when the type has three different tags
olive oxide
same
cyan pilot
It's weird, but there's an art to browsing porn
olive oxide
it's not a talent, it's a skill
cyan pilot
I can tell you I don't have talent. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career.
Skills that make me a nightmare for images like you.
If you let my tag change go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you.
But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will report you.
olive oxide
I'm sure there's a portal 2 quote I can doctor to make it relevant but I can't think of any
cyan pilot
something something cake
olive oxide
To maintain a constant pleasure cycle, I simulate nighttime at all hours and add adrenal vapor to your oxygen supply. So you may be confused about the passage of time. The point is, yesterday was your birthday. I thought you'd want to know.
cyan pilot
mild bridge
Very impressive!
(Because this message is prerecorded, any comments we may make about your success are speculation on our part. Please disregard any undeserved compliments.)
wary mantle
heyy.. I am new to programming. I just wanted some information. What is django and whats it used for? (is it just for web development)
strange thorn
its a back end web development framework, one of the two most popular used with python.
but i wouldnt really recommend it for programming newbies, it is a really advanced tool/framework
brittle copper
I use it for sending myself reminder mails, lol
strange thorn
i mostly use flask for...... anything that needs to accept http requests
wary mantle
k. thanks.. i was just wondering because i kept on hearing it everywhere,
what other web frameworks are there that are easy and quick? @strange thorn
strange thorn
flask is the kind of epic antagonist to django
strange thorn
django is this "we help you a lot, give you less freedom but you cant do mistakes in exchange for that"
and flask is like "do whatever you want you may do amazing stuff or may do some horrible mistake an everything fails"
kind steppe
flask is simpler in my opinion
strange thorn
^
kind steppe
from flask import Flask
app = Flask(__name__)
@app.route("/")
def index():
return "Hello there", 200
app.run(port=3000, debug=True)
like this is what you have todo in django to display some basic html page: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15674257/displaying-simple-html-pages-django
and this would be some very simple flask code for that
import flask
app = flask.Flask(__name__)
@app.route("/")
def index():
return flask.render_template("index.html")
app.run()
kind steppe
django makes me cry a little everytime i see it
strange thorn
two idiots one thougt huh? @kind steppe
mild bridge
from flask import Flask
app = Flask(__name__)
@app.route("/")
def index():
return "Hello there", 200
app.run(port=3000, debug=True)
something something flask
mild bridge
:(
kind steppe
lmao
strange thorn
there is only space for two idiots with the same thoughts here
brittle copper
django give you less freedom
I don't agree :(
I mean it is a bit hard to do stuff indeed, but can do pretty much everything
strange thorn
Django doesn't give you freedom that easy then?
strange thorn
if one had fire fox os and a certified application for it...
kind steppe
i have one of those
ripe grotto
Can I set up a custom domain for a Github Pages Project?
I already have franccesco.github.com as my main page in github pages with a custom domain (codingdose.info)
ripe grotto
Solved, nevermind 
dense sapphire
@deep cave i got it fixed
wary mantle
how do you do that box thing on discord when you want to write some code?
wary mantle
print("HI")
thats markdown
strange thorn
oh and if you want todo short snippets in a sentence (thats the wrong `) print("HI")
``print("HI")``
its important to use those `
strange thorn
and when you should want a syntax highlighter always leave the language in a seperate line
py print("HI")
doesnt work only if its
```py
code
```
mild bridge
py!tag codeblock
native tide
wary mantle
how do u make another line. mine just enter
mild bridge
shift + enter
strange thorn
def func():
print("HI")
while 1:
func()
no
when you havent closed your codeblock yet you can actually do just enter
like when you have
```py
shrewd sand
Hi, could i ask for help with a web server project?
shrewd sand
xD
wary mantle
this sever is amazing.. active. 😃
shrewd sand
Im trying to get a POST message to be listened to by my raspberry pi
strange thorn
ok
shrewd sand
And activate a bash script, depending on what data is sent with the POST
I only need one line from the POST, the command data
strange thorn
that is usually a bad idea
activating shell scripts via post
or via remote in general
strange thorn
well
strange thorn
when someone does sql injections he also "just sends a variable" but executes an command in the end
anyway if you want it i wont stop you
shrewd sand
Preferably i would send a ssh command
Its between IFTTT and my pi
So if you have a better idea
im all ears xD
strange thorn
well the best idea would possibly be to use sth like paramiko in order to open a ssh session (ofc password secured 😉) and execute the command over that
strange thorn
although one could indeed implement a similar concept with some flask and requests scripts in python
oh
pythons super power is 3rd party man
shrewd sand
Cause it gets messy
shrewd sand
No like
strange thorn
(a third party one)
strange thorn
what isnt a third party application in your eyes
strange thorn
i (the I here is important there are dozens of ways) would prbly use requests module on client side and setup some tiny flask based server on server side (both 3rd party libs for python) and exchange data via those
shrewd sand
I meant 3rd party applications*
strange thorn
flask is a library
strange thorn
you can do anything with it
shrewd sand
alright
Ty
also
I don't quite understand how Port forwarding works completely. If i have a port open... is it only linked to the device i set?
So if i switch it off.... the port is useless?
shrewd sand
Thats my problem xd
strange thorn
executing commands from outside your network is nearly always a bad idea
strange thorn
There are so many ways this could go wrong
shrewd sand
what i thought ;-;
Yeah
Out of interest
Is portforwarding of any type bad?
E.g ssh?
strange thorn
Portforwarding itself is ok the question is what service is running on the port
Anyway if you don't have any questions left I'll do my lineage os updates now @shrewd sand
takes that as a "no questions left"
shrewd sand
@strange thorn in case your interested, I found a useful software for doing this https://www.triggercmd.com/
seems to be a good ulternative
shrewd sand
You pinged me 🤔
mild bridge
stone arrow
hullo if i were to get into web development with python, should I be going with Django?
cyan pilot
A lot of people here recommend Flask
stone arrow
ah ok what is the difference between them?
cyan pilot
You would have to wait for someone else if you want specifics, but generally Django is more verbose
stone arrow
aight thanks flask i shall go with then LOL
strange thorn
How's Django more verbose? @cyan pilot
cyan pilot
I was referring by vague memory of the convo on the 21st in this channel
deep cave
Django is more opinionated. It comes with many batteries included.
Flask is far more barebones. A Flask webapp can be a single file with a couple of decorated functions.
you can extend Flask to be as comprehensive as you need it to be
with Django you don't really have a choice. It has very strong opinions about how you should do things. It wants you to use a SQL based ORM, have migrations, use class based views, have an admin panel
but on the other hand, Django will also force you to be more secure, and most of the batteries that come included are very good batteries.
they're both good, they're just extremely different. Flask is far more forgiving for beginners, because it lets you just write exactly what you need and learn one thing at a time.
Django throws you into the deep end and requires you to understand a great many things before you can really use it properly.
I think Django can be a great choice for professionals that happen to agree with the various methodologies and modules that Django so devoutly subscribes to.
Flask is far more versatile, which is why people love it around here. You can do anything you want with Flask. With Django you shouldn't try to do anything you want, you should just do what Django wants. And Django is a reasonable guy.
brittle copper
, but generally Django is more verbose triggered
use class based views, have an admin panel
No and no
strange thorn
someone calm down we already had the discussion
django gives you harder access to freedom
than flask
deep cave
that's.. no.
brittle copper
No I'm just fixing couple key points :'c
I mean you can use functions simply
And you can very easily close the admin panel in the settings
deep cave
just because you can do all of these things, doesn't change the fact that it's not what django prefers.
django makes it very clear how it wants you to use it.
you can disregard all of those opinions but at that point, why even use django?
brittle copper
Welp, didn't know that it wants me to use classviews
Don't really know why are you even saying it xD
I'm using functions and they do the job pretty well
I mean I agree with everything else but don't know this particular point
deep cave
the reason I say that is because if you want to use any of djangos generic views, you need class-based views so you can inherit from them
and the generic views are useful.
to be sure.
and you don't wanna be mixing the two approaches.
brittle copper
Oh, I really don't use them and don't even know most of them since I want a bit more freedom than usual
deep cave
so it's usually a better option to just go class-based from the get-go.
to be clear, I'm not saying class-based views are in any way inferior to function-based views.
I prefer them.
but it's just that django sort of assumes you're using class-based views when it comes to some of its internals
like generics.
and that assumption is an example of how django feels opinionated.
brittle copper
Welp, I guess you are right then
deep cave
I used generic views when I built a CRUD back in the day
and they served me well - but I do think perhaps that for larger projects, people never use them.
they're frequently employed in django tutorials though
because they abstract away the actual view logic so you can have something up and running much faster
iirc djangogirls uses it
which is a good tutorial btw
deep cave
they're one of those girl coding workshops
and their official tutorial is pretty well written.
brittle copper
Yeah I saw them too but it feels like they are rather for simple views
deep cave
(for learning absolute basics)
native tide
huh neat
the only "girl coding workshop" i seen was kode with karlie
and it gave me terminal cancer
brittle copper
I'm not sure how to extend them to my huge views
deep cave
you can't.
they're just for simple stuff like listing a model.
but herein lies my main concern
why is Django offering a tool to do something that beginners would love to do - a simple way to list a model
but forcing you to use class-based views (which are kind of complicated to fully comprehend for a beginner) to do it?
and is it really useful to abstract listing a model, or could it be more benficial to have to write exactly that sort of thing when you're starting out? it's a good way to learn how ORMs and templates are supposed to play together.
brittle copper
Yeah that is weird but just use functions instead, I mean the main things are pretty much the same with them too; I mean everything has a weird part just like django
deep cave
sure.
meager anchor
has anyone managed to implement discord OAuth into their web app? I'm trying to do so using https://github.com/pennersr/django-allauth, which kind-of-worked initially, but now when trying to log in I just get UNKNOWN_ERROR. goal is to allow users to log in and "connect" django's permission system with the guild permissions from discord
brave mantle
@meager anchor We're using flask-dance for it
It has a specific module for Discord
As for django though, I have no idea
meager anchor
yeah, flask allows you a bit more freedmo about configuration D:
meager anchor
i'm gonna retry with the allauth thing for the third time, maybe i get blessed and it works
brave mantle
Haha, worth a try
meager anchor
It's getting somewhere, at least
except that this framework decides to append random characters to my name if a django account for it already exists 🤔
hey i mean at least its API is well documented /s
meager anchor
hey django is well documented 😦
but this oauth thing isn't, I literally have no idea what it's doing
native tide
Should I start learning django or databases first?
strange thorn
databases could become more useful
native tide
Okay thanks 😃
strange thorn
like you do webapps with django and there may be db in it but you can do more than webapps with db
native tide
I assume mySQL is the most popular one
strange thorn
not use mysql
for a lot of reasons
go with postgres if you want an sql based one
native tide
danke
strange thorn
np
meager anchor
this is complete hell
i've been sitting on this issue for like 2 days now and made almost no progress
the package is very poorly documented and customizing default discord oauth provider is not proving to work properly either
meager anchor
right now the library only saves data from the /@me endpoint
which is this
but I also need to access the guilds data, and since i have no information on how to request further user data whatsover I tried making my own provider
or well, "adapter"
now I have this... with """commented out""" body ```py
import requests
from allauth.socialaccount.providers.discord.views import DiscordOAuth2Adapter
from allauth.socialaccount.providers.discord.provider import DiscordAccount
class CustomDiscordOAuth2Adapter(DiscordOAuth2Adapter):
"""
guilds_url = 'https://discordapp.com/api/users/@me/guilds'
def complete_login(self, request, app, token, **kwargs):
headers = {
'Authorization': f'Bearer {token.token}',
'Content-Type': 'application/json'
}
profile_data = requests.get(self.profile_url, headers=headers).json()
guild_data = requests.get(self.guilds_url, headers=headers).json()
extra_data = {**profile_data, 'guilds': guild_data}
return self.get_provider().sociallogin_from_response(request, extra_data)
def new_user(self, request, social_account):
return DiscordAccount(social_account)
"""
and set it up to use this. now I have no idea why, but for some reason when I tell it to use the direct subclass of the adapter that works it stops workingalthough complete_login is the only method I need to override, if my logic isn't wrong
strange thorn
i gotta admit this is too deep in the lib for me i guess you will have to find someone who knows it sry
meager anchor
dw about it
kind steppe
you need to other scopes @meager anchor
I assume allauth.socialaccount.providers.discord.provider gives something like that
meager anchor
yeah scopes are customized
SOCIALACCOUNT_PROVIDERS = {
'discord': {
'SCOPE': ['identify', 'guilds']
}
}
you just need to get to the guilds endpoint
meager anchor
that's what I'm doing in the complete_login method
kind steppe
and it's just not appearing there?
meager anchor
no, it doesn't even get to the point of logging in properly
I keep getting attributeerrors for seemingly unknown methods
although I'm subclassing the adapter with which it worked
kind steppe
This is the issue with un-documented middleware
If you are feeling fancy it's a lot easier making a class to manually work with OAuth2
meager anchor
hm
kind steppe
Discord docs even use python for their oauth2 examples
meager anchor
yeah I looked at that before
but then I'd have to integrate all of that with Django manually
i suppose I could add a function to the discordaccount class to fetch this information later
kind steppe
It's at minimum only two extra functions, both just sending and handling requests
or use something like https://pypi.org/project/python-oauth2/
meager anchor
well
I've looked at alternatives but I didn't get them to work and now I have this which almost works, but I just need to customize it. but thanks to its horrible documentation, it's near impossible
next weird thing, the oauth2 dialog on discord tells me nothing about the service not asking for my e-mail yet for some reason it's there
meager anchor
i give up w/ this for now, need to learn front end anyways
brittle copper
handler404 = 'mainsite.views.handler404'
handler403 = 'mainsite.views.handler403'
handler500 = 'mainsite.views.handles500'
Okay never mind
it is handler not handles
🤦
cyan pilot
Is there an online service for testing HTTP stuff?
brittle copper
Oh my that is so cute
brave mantle
Postman is great, I use that
strange thorn
Me too
heavy radish
ey guys i am at a point where i have to fiddle with css and html shit....
what would u reccomend for a django page?
bootstrap 3. or 4.?
or something entirely different?
stone pelican
I don't think the html and css have anything to do with front-end
It greatly depends on what you want
heavy radish
well iam trying to learn about python as my most general goal.
the best opportunities to make use of python in my own sphere are to create something I and maye others actually will use
so after trying pyqt5 i realized that noone ever apart from myself is going to use anything i built with that
so i came up with the idea that if i ever want to have someone else make use of what i produce a website is the best choice...
so i went into django (cuz thats the best way to make stuff "right"... i heard)
learning how to use Database with Django was fun
also using its server to present the Data from the Database in a webbrowser is the way i prefer
so now since i have a project my friends are interested in using if i can provide them easy access too
i also want to learn how to make the websites i create visualy appealing...
so atm i just want to gather some oppinions on what is the most efficient and maybe also most rational approach to learning about
making sites beautiful
could be that certain stuff in things like Bootstrap are not wise to use in combination with django
basically i know shit about css and only very basic on html
so i dont want to spent the next weeks learning about that on a broad spectrum but just get comfortable with a thing like bootstrap
heavy radish
i guess i answered it myself now....
using bootsstrap via maxCDN is super easy and does the job
stone pelican
Bootstrap has nothing to do with Django dude
Use whatever you want
I like bootstrap personally. You can look at the pythondiscord.com site source to see what we do
brittle copper
def staff_member_required(view_func=None, redirect_field_name=REDIRECT_FIELD_NAME,
login_url='admin:login'):
"""
Decorator for views that checks that the user is logged in and is a staff
member, redirecting to the login page if necessary.
"""
actual_decorator = user_passes_test(
lambda u: u.is_active and u.is_staff,
login_url=login_url,
redirect_field_name=redirect_field_name
)
if view_func:
return actual_decorator(view_func)
return actual_decorator```This is the django's decorator to check if a user is indeed a staff member and if not this little guy redirects them to django-admin-login
I do not want to edit the source code in anyway(why? no idea, should I?) so my question is this
urlpatterns = [
url(r'^admin/', my_magic_decorator(admin.site.urls)),
]```
Can I do something like this which redirects to my desired url instead of `'admin:login'`Or that which raises a 404, really doesn't matter
I'm asking because I'm having a hard time understanding decorators fully
brave mantle
It looks like you just supply it as the login_url param?
brittle copper
Yup
Just changin that there would probably solve my problem but no idea if I can do it without changing it there
Is it obvious and am I not seeing it?
brave mantle
That's more of a django question than a python question I think
brittle copper
brave mantle
"I don't understand decorators" is a python question
brittle copper
I don't, I don't know if I can change the login_url that is hard coded here with a decorator
brave mantle
Yes, you can
dense sapphire
guys calling a JS library client side as such js <script src="https://www.howsmyssl.com/a/check?callback=parseTLSinfo"></script> dangerous?
strange thorn
Unlikely
brave mantle
Browsers implement a sandbox so for the most part that's safe
dense sapphire
Okay then. Just out of curiosity, when would it be a vulnerable implementation?
brave mantle
It shouldn't be unless someone's using a browser without a sandbox
But as far as I know, that isn't a thing that exists
strange thorn
Well there may be ways to get out of the sandbox but for that someone would have to find a vulnerability in the browsers js engine
brave mantle
An official book for working with the Bulma CSS framework has been released.
https://bleedingedgepress.com/creating-interfaces-bulma/
15% off with the code: BULMALAUNCH
dense sapphire
Guys if i am sending a web server the following JSON object: { 'potato' : 'new'} and it replies back with a JSON object as well. What should the server be expecting for it to reply with its JSON object?
I am asking because i am more of a security guy, and I am testing how null byte should be handled server side
please ping me if you can answer me or wanna ask for more details
kind steppe
that makes very little sense
are you saying "if i send this and get this what should i send"
dense sapphire
{ 'x': 'y'} -> {"z":["a","b"]}
My question is: What is the web server expecting, and how does it process it? Just asking for experience
gathering knowledge on the matter
kind steppe
That is a case to case thing though?
For example, api.seph.club is not expecting the same thing as discordapp.com/api
mild bridge
Is there a jo.seph.club
strange thorn
asking what to use to trigger something you want without having any docs about the server is impossible
kind steppe
as of now no but that is smart aperture
mild bridge
sad
kind steppe
Yeah what @strange thorn said
strange thorn
its like
kind steppe
@mild bridge was also thinking jo@seph.club tbh
dense sapphire
Okayyy, I get your points
mild bridge
ooo
strange thorn
you use a random word to try to say hello in chinese
mild bridge
that's also nice
kind steppe
@strange thorn bonjour
strange thorn
uuuh french
brave mantle
@strange thorn Bread
strange thorn
i shouldnt have said that
kind steppe
lmao
brave mantle
haha
mild bridge
wait fuck
mild bridge
you didn't see anythin
mild bridge
but now they don't know it's me 
mild bridge
what about now
kind steppe
which channels?
neat nest
what y'all doing in #web-development ?
strange thorn
weeeeell
kind steppe
back to the null byte question @dense sapphire
kind steppe
the webserver will just handle it normally
strange thorn
there was this guy asking some more or less unsolvable question and i had some funky idea to answer it so we ended up here after some time
dense sapphire
@kind steppe i am receiving a certain response though from sending a %00 😛
strange thorn
you could
dense sapphire
a valid response
kind steppe
then the webserver does not see it as an issue
and why should it? it's just a character after all
I'm off for my tea
strange thorn
just open chrome open dev tools record network traffic copy the ones you are interested in as curl go to curl to python converter and BAM python code for interacting with the server
dense sapphire
i am interpreting requests and responses on burp
strange thorn
just saying what i would/do usually do for finding out how stuff interacts if there is no docs
native tide
Who is ducking?
mild bridge
eager meteor
Mihow
I'm wanting to learn more about web dev using Flask to get started. Without a website to test with is their a test environment I can use or do I have to setup a webserver?
deep prism
Your own pc will be your webserver.
In your browser you just browse to localhost:<port> or 127.0.0.1:<port> to go to your website.
eager meteor
ok I think I just found a good tutorial for flask mysql on a localhost. Ty as always you guys are great
neat nest
HTML and CSS control how web pages are displayed, but they are not programming languages and cannot change the content of the page after it has been rendered
if you need to change the structure of your webpage after it has been sent to the client, you need JavaScript, which is a programming language the browser can execute
does that answer your question, @fiery kestrel ?
neat nest
HTML and CSS are like a blueprint for a house. When someone wants to see your webpage, you send them a blueprint and their browser builds it. If you want to change how something is displayed and send them a different blueprint, you change the HTML and CSS you send to them. If you want the blueprint to change AFTER you have sent it you need JavaScript.
meager anchor
Jinja is a templating engine
neat nest
oh
meager anchor
maybe they mean google chrome?
deep cave
they mean the google search results.
you can change what they say, but you can't swap their positions.
meager anchor
oh
deep cave
sorry, my dude.
fiery kestrel
@mild bridge yes ofc... i dont know how a 'web dev' sees or understand the question, sorry
deep cave
just to be clear
@fiery kestrel you're saying
you wanna swap the position of the blue and green parts?
on google search?
for your page?
if so, it can't be done.
fiery kestrel
@deep cave yes
deep cave
sure. are you trying to just do it for your computer?
or for the google result itself?
deep cave
yes
mild bridge
ye
deep cave
I have no idea why you would want to, though. it would look far worse
okay.
well then I suppose it is possible, yes.
deep cave
aperture mentioned writing a chrome extension, that'd be the way to do it.
and yes there'd be JS involved.
but for just swapping two elements it shouldn't be too complex.
native tide
monkey patch the css
native tide
lol
mild bridge
:^)
deep cave
OFFICIAL PYTHON DISCORD CHROME EXTENSION
deep cave
let's have it detect pictures of people on websites
and glue josephs face onto them
done
native tide
hahaha
deep cave
josephify
your
chrome
it also detects any avatar you might be using on google, facebook, twitter etc and replaces that with joseph. and it changes your usernames to joseph.
so that you can be logged in as joseph, too!
native tide
same
mild bridge
ok brb
currently seeing if I can make a bare extension to change the background of every page to hackerjoseph™
alright, let's see if this works 👀
@deep cave @native tide version 1.0 is up bois
deep cave
where's my invite
mild bridge
what A levels?
native tide
cs biology economics and phyisics
native tide
econ and physics are for those half a level ones
mild bridge
- maths
native tide
ugh i always forget what theyre called
mild bridge
body {
background: url('https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305126844661760000/413063511455957015/unknown.png') !important;
}
@deep cave how do I stretch to window size
pls help
native tide
modify width and height attributes of body?
mild bridge
I'll try that
native tide
/* Full height */
height: 100%;
/* Center and scale the image nicely */
background-position: center;
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;``` add thismaybe then itll work
oh
idk
i gave up with css
mild bridge
body {
background: url('https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305126844661760000/413063511455957015/unknown.png') no-repeat center center fixed !important;
-webkit-background-size: cover;
-moz-background-size: cover;
-o-background-size: cover;
background-size: cover;
}
meh nearly had it
mild bridge
okey
native tide
ok so i had most of it
lol
@mild bridge not economics
i just realised i said my options
but im only doing 3
native tide
see i was going to go with maths
then my brain decided to do way better in biology
and i got asked to do that instead
mild bridge
nice
native tide
i miss maths
mild bridge
maths is fun
mild bridge
more fun than physics :'(
native tide
yup physics is just memoring equations and explaining experiments
hearty birch
Maths Physics CS and Economics here
willow jolt
hi
strange thorn
hi there
willow jolt
I'm trying to answer this question, but I know next to nothing about how mobile/web apps work:
Say you are trying to upload a photo to share with a photo sharing app. You see a non-specific error message, like "Sorry, something went wrong." List all the ways you can think of to try to fix or work around the error.
any ideas?
willow jolt
what does conn stand for
strange thorn
connection
oh and of course
maybe something during transmission went wrong so try again
willow jolt
also can u elaborate on this: "check if the server is aviable"
strange thorn
Well there are multiple ways for example if the Devs have something like discords status (just Google discord status) you could check for that
If you are bored you could try to get the IP and port of the server and ping it / check if the port is open.
willow jolt
what is a port
strange thorn
For example a MC server yes
So in order to make things easier some very clever persons thought of ports a port always hosts one service like a website a MC server etc
(ofc ports can be closed to if no service is running on them)
willow jolt
Try to get the IP and port of the website's server and ping it. Or check if the port is open.
does that sentence make sense
like
is it the app's server?
strange thorn
although check if the port is open CAN (not is can) be illegal
its a grey zone
and yes
i never said something about a website
willow jolt
so should i switch website to app
willow jolt
i am a high school student trying to get into this summer web dev bootcamp hosted by google inc
but like
It's due at midnight
strange thorn
breakpoint setting seems a little overkill also, there is a difference between web and phone apps, all this debugging stuff isnt possible if we are talking about phone apps
but jan
you do realize these question are there to find out if you have the knowledge required to follow the bootcamp, if you cant answer them yourself you should prolly reconsider your opinion on this
willow jolt
nah it's for beginners who have never touched this content
like a gauge to see where they are at in the learning process
strange thorn
can gimme the source of the question?
strange thorn
and you are in which timezone?
willow jolt
YAYYYY
I HAVE
MORE TIME
thank you god bless you!!!
i didn't even notice that lmao
strange thorn
which timezone?
willow jolt
Central, why?
willow jolt
think about what?
strange thorn
how much time you had left
meager anchor
okay, I finally figured out how to request the necessary extra data for guild permissions. allauth wasn't as customizable as I was hoping, so I ended up forking it and I now have the data available. Now I want to change the Django user model's is_staff to check whether a certain permission bit is set for the guild permissions, and for that I need access to the associated social account. now I could just assign Staff status and other permissions manually, but I might as well just not use Discord then. Anyways, is there a way to customize that?
will the djangod @kind steppe please grant me his attention
meager anchor
kind steppe
@meager anchor no I hate django
strange thorn
Joph is the flasgod
eternal thunder
Yo
I'm working with Sanic right now
in Flask you have session
although I can't find that in Sanic
is there some sort of sanic session?
strange thorn
https://github.com/subyraman/sanic_session you are one github search away
eternal thunder
in flask you don't have to store it, its with secret key or smth
eternal thunder
ik
marsh canyon
Hey guys I'm new here
I have a question relating with Django,I have pycharm community version and it doesn't support css file,I tried creating css file in other folder n tried to link,but it doesn't work,any suggestions?
strange thorn
yes css isnt supported by community
marsh canyon
Any way to add it by giving link href to other folder where css is located?
brave mantle
You don't need IDE support to use CSS
It just won't highlight or complete it for you
marsh canyon
Hmm,1 sec
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="C:\Users\Home\Desktop\website_django\django.css" />
👆🏽 ?
i tried to change IDE to eclipse pydiv but i started geting the error -"import error"
marsh canyon
Any solution for this?
marsh canyon
nvm,abandoned it and made a new one
shrewd sand
@marsh canyon should i be using powershell over cmd for python?
strange thorn
no
shrewd sand
why?
strange thorn
not really a good reason for it
shrewd sand
Not worth it?
strange thorn
yup
shrewd sand
Yeah thats what i thought
ty
btw
adafruit.io is what i used intead of a webserver
Its rly good
grand badge
How do i get my django site running on pythonanywhere?
brave mantle
Did this one help? Did you have trouble with a specific tutorial? Run into a specific problem?
Hm, I included an anchor in that URL but I don't see it on my tablet
Nope, it did send, okay.
grand badge
the tutorial didnt work for me, im stuk with a module not found error
this happens most of the time
marsh canyon
powershell just works fine with me ,i was using the pycharm terminal before tho @shrewd sand
brave mantle
GDPR will be upon us soon. If you run a website or service of any kind, you must be GDPR-compliant. If you are not EU-based, you risk fines and sanctions from the EU regardless, unless you personally take steps to prevent European users from making use of your services.
This article is a great primer on what this means to you as a developer. https://techblog.bozho.net/gdpr-practical-guide-developers/
deep prism
Is the 'forget me' function also the deletion of the account?
strange thorn
........ That's just a total overkill
brave mantle
So, if you have say a blog platform, you delete the user account, and also the blog posts
You also keep a record of their user ID
That record is used for when you're restoring backups, so you know to not restore their data
strange thorn
The Patrick Mac hardies will come from everywhere
brave mantle
If a user has a profile page, this also extends to search results
So it's important that you make their profile 404 as well
Otherwise the search engines might miss the removal
deep prism
Reason i was asking is because I don't see the option to delete my profile on a website with wordpress backend, and i'd be surprised if wordpress isn't up 2 date yet.
brave mantle
Wordpress does not have a good reputation
This can be a manual process, by the way
But I imagine most people will want to automate it
long swan
@brave mantle can you post a tl;dr of that EU post?
brave mantle
No, not really
It's not trivial
This post is the closest to a tl;dr you will find
strange thorn
Why does the EU do this.......
strange thorn
Wait
What if I have a blockchain service
I can't delete a user there
It would destroy the system
brave mantle
You will need to make sure your blockchain doesn't contain identifying info
User IDs are fine
strange thorn
Ah ok
brave mantle
It's stuff like usernames, emails, addresses, phone numbers, real names
strange thorn
I mean Google has been following this for years
Google has all features requested there
strange thorn
So it's basically a be like Google law
What's missing?
brave mantle
Well let's say for example you're using Google for advertising on your site
The user deletes their account
You will have to notify Google of this
So that they can delete their related advertising data
strange thorn
Yeah but that's a problem solved by Google
That's a client problem
You can request to be forgotten
brave mantle
Yeah, that is Google's problem, but it's not a solved one
No, you have an obligation to notify the third party
Any third parties that have had access to the data you collected
They must also remove the data
That's a guarantee you have to provide
strange thorn
Yes but I mean you can ask Google to delete your data Google has that service
So from Google's side it's ok
You have to take care of that
brave mantle
No, that isn't entirely true
A user with a Google account can request to be forgotten
But if you have a Google ad on a page only accessible to the user - for example, a private profile page
long swan
sigh, good luck web dev community
strange thorn
I see
brave mantle
If the profile page URL has a username in it, you have to notify Google
strange thorn
We are basically fucked
brave mantle
This is kind of the "wishful thinking" part of GDPR
strange thorn
The EU will injure major parts of the internet with this
brave mantle
Your responsibility ends at notifying the third party
So if Google doesn't have the procedures in place, that's on them
Of course, you will need a log of your contact with them
brave mantle
Yeah I know, it's tricky
It's a pain in the butt
But it's already passed, so we have to deal with it
deep cave
feels like they're testing in production
strange thorn
Can I ensure that my app has no EU users
brave mantle
Well that's nothing new @deep cave
No, that isn't enough @strange thorn
You need to ensure that nobody in the EU can even access your services
brave mantle
It's uh, also not trivial
strange thorn
There is always VPN proxy etc
brave mantle
You would need an address verification system
deep cave
yeah
strange thorn
If the application runs on an EU server but isn't EU accessible is that ok?
strange thorn
Damn
brave mantle
By the way
GDPR goes a bit further than this
If you got someone's details from a third party, you have to give them the same access and rights as people that don't have an account on your site
If you collect any identifying information, you also have to collect enough information that a user could provide you with some data to verify themselves to get that access
This is the paradox of GDPR
Maybe you didn't need an email address before, but you might need it now
long swan
..l.. EU
brave mantle
Haha
That's more or less all the big details
There's a few smaller ones
For example, the right to rectification
You must allow users to edit all of the fields of their user profiles
Stuff like that
Yes, usernames as well
long swan
It would be nice if the internet community just stopped servicing EU users and let them suffer because of their legislations
brave mantle
I think it's the best Internet legislation the EU has come out with
It's just a pain to implement
The guarantees as a consumer are fantastic
And it puts pressure on America to follow suit
Some of it is super easy to implement as well, but they're picky about it
Like you have to explicitly gain consent for each use of a user's data, which means you can no longer have a huge terms document with a single checkbox at the bottom
deep prism
That checkbox thing is the most worthless thing.
I bet whatever they'll write there will either not make sense or isn't clear anyway. And since you can't continue without checking everything people just do it anyway.
brave mantle
Ah, well the thing is
Your system is going to have to deal with that too because it requires that users can revoke specific "checkboxes" later
deep prism
For the rest, like seeing your data and being able to delete your stuff, that is okay.
long swan
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/336562029924188160/419780637176627200/unknown.png a couple days ago came across this
You must opt in, must opt ggwp
brave mantle
Well really this part of it is more concerned with marketing and such
So you have to allow people to use your services but opt out of you handing data to the company that does your marketing
Realistically if your service doesn't need a thing to operate, it can be optional
If it needs a thing, require it
I will be able to get back to working on Gear soon
Gear will fully support GDPR
Gotta brb, sorry
mild bridge
o/
brave mantle
Any other questions?
vocal edge
Hi
vocal edge
oke nice 😃
brave mantle
There's no good way to do it
strange thorn
....
brave mantle
You can request proof of identity but
You basically need someone to scan their passport in for you
Some sites actually do this
strange thorn
In other words whenever is set up a website now with user system etc I have serious law problems
brave mantle
Well, the approach given in the guide is probably fine
But honestly nobody knows how they expect us to enforce that
brave mantle
That's how sony does it
polar robin
about GDPR could you even do email subscription lists anymore
strange thorn
Yes
brave mantle
Yup
polar robin
since youre storing emails
strange thorn
You have to ensure its deleteable
polar robin
oh
brave mantle
Erasing isn't that hard
polar robin
do they fucken expect you to have a self destruct on facebook and some indian hacks in and clears Facebook
brave mantle
It's the deactivation part I'm curious about
deep prism
deactivation == restrict processing in the article?
deep prism
That just adding a boolean column to the user table where you filter on in most of the SQL clauses no?
deep prism
Yea that's true.
It's basically deleting the account without actually deleting it just yet :P
brave mantle
Yeah, I guess
deep prism
depends what it involves ^^
proud igloo
is each line bolder than the last?
this is what my mac is showing
but my hackintosh it works fine
deep prism
Yea if i open the link in a tab every line is bolder than the last.
In the discord preview it's not though. (400 is bolder than 500)
cyan pilot
I'm using 32 bit palemoon (old version of firefox) on a windows computer
although it could be an issue with your browser, @proud igloo
cyan pilot
it works fine
marsh canyon
path('', include('products.urls')) is there anything wrong in this? (in main urls.py)
i have an app called products
this is regarding django
and this also please path('',list_products , name='list_products'),
views
from .models import product
# Create your views here.
def list_products(request):
products = product.objects.all()
return render(request , 'product.html' , {'products ' :products})
please check the views and urls,my website is giving me a blank page
meager anchor
which error do you get
native tide
@marsh canyon
marsh canyon
np,its fixed
candid plaza
hello
grand badge
what are u making @marsh canyon ?
marsh canyon
just a simple website for practise where people post about their discord servers and post links and a person looking for a server can hook up the search for a server he is looking,im not that good at django but im trying to improve my skills
u can find my project(currently in progress) on github
@grand badge
grand badge
nice
im currently making a school website in django to get practise with making custom CMS's
marsh canyon
cool
grand badge
i got started with django in winter of 2017, itss reallyy good
grand badge
last week?
grand badge
how long do u code a day?
marsh canyon
not everyday,i do on holidays like 2-3 hours
exams are currently going on so till 26th march im not free,but holidays between exam i code
grand badge
i dont know jack about authentication in django, ur really good!
marsh canyon
😅 im still a noobie tho
strange thorn
🤢 django
grand badge
u wot m8?