discord-bots

[velvet rover]

(Also I did find discords auto mod.)

Say again sorry?

[topaz stratus]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/faq.html#what-does-blocking-mean

"every couple weeks a random letter"
the worst case is when they start using the russian alphabet

[velvet rover]

they tend to simple find a replacement letter.

[velvet rover]

thanks

[last cradle]

how to do this, but command groups

[fast osprey]

Are all of the commands in the cog belonging to one group?

[solar solstice]

Hi can anyone help me in my discord vc? Link in bio

Building my server

[fast osprey]

Do you have a question about developing a bot?

[topaz stratus]

looks like they are just here to advertise

[fast osprey]

yeah sadly likely

[last cradle]

no

this bot was apparently created with discord.py but how did they get different types of nitro badges and the users bio?

[burnt quiver]

Thought bots coulnd't acess bios unless there's a oath2 for that

[last cradle]

hmmm

how

[shrewd apex]

they have a view profile link? do they have an associated website for that bot

if so they might be using oauth

[last cradle]

yh heist lol

[shrewd apex]

yeah then they might be creating a separate db, with reference to user details like that

when you grant the bot access

[vestal canyon]

Is it possible to code permissions to view slash commands? Like with roleIDs?

[burnt quiver]

yes, what library are you using?

[vestal canyon]

I'm using discord.py with the app_commands extension for slash commands

I've searched everywhere on yt, google, etc and I simply cannot see an example of someone coding view permission on slash commands 💔

[burnt quiver]

@app_commands.default_permissions, this only works for permissions sadly. No role ids

But still it prevents users without the permission to see the command

[fast osprey]

Bio doesn't appear to be one of the fields given in the user object granted by the identify scope https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/user#user-object

[vestal canyon]

Could you explain a bit more? What do you mean by permissions that aren't role IDs?

[burnt quiver]

like ban_members, you can't set it on per role basis iirc

[fast osprey]

You can limit slash commands to roles natively in the UI. You don't need (and can't use) code to do this

[burnt quiver]

^
I doubt you would know what roles a server has

[vestal canyon]

Thank you!

[fast osprey]

Asterisk* on can't, you might be able to do something via the applications.commands.permissions.update oauth grant but it's incredibly simple for the user to just do this themselves and a lot more transparent

[vale jungle]

any help

[timber dragon]

command**[]**_prefix=*

[vale jungle]

i should replace that with this

[patent hull]

No lol

It means you should remove the “s”

The error says it too

[timber dragon]

I didn't know how to point it out without making it too obvious lol

[patent hull]

TypeError: BotBase. init (): missing 1 required positional argument: 'command_prefix'

[vale jungle]

tnx is working

[vale jungle]

how to make it reapeat and say something different like fuck you

[timber dragon]

just modify that message.channel.send message line?

or just use the builtin automod for stuff like that unless you're just trying to be funny

[fast osprey]

Really might want to reconsider posting that in a large public server

[vale jungle]

what about this

[quick gust]

Yeah because you aren't registering it as a command

[vale jungle]

then how

[quick gust]

@bot.command()

!d discord.ext.commands.Bot.command

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.Bot.command

@command(*args, **kwargs)```
A shortcut decorator that invokes [`command()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.command) and adds it to the internal command list via [`add_command()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.GroupMixin.add_command).

[vale jungle]

i might be dumb i used the same thing already

and how do i make it to show the channel

[fast osprey]

Where in your code is @command

[vale jungle]

like #discord-bots

[fast osprey]

Why would you make a command that lets anyone give themselves an admin role

[vale jungle]

it isnt a admin role i made it like that

[fast osprey]

...

[fast osprey]

are you often in the habit of naming your variables completely misleadingly

[vale jungle]

sometimes

how do i make it to show the channel like #discord-bots

[fast osprey]

What is "it", and what do you mean by "show"

there is also no event named "ip"

[vale jungle]

yh like #discord-bots when u click on it it takes u there

[quick gust]

You can use the ID of the channel
<#channel_id>

[vale jungle]

i changed it

[fast osprey]

!d discord.TextChannel.mention

[unkempt canyon]

discord.TextChannel.mention

property mention```
The string that allows you to mention the channel.

[vale jungle]

what abt this one

[fast osprey]

both work

[vale jungle]

ok

[quick gust]

What one? Your questions are very vague

[vale jungle]

so now how do i do this wth this <#channel_id>

[quick gust]

If you only have the ID then just what I said works, but if you have the channel object then just use it's .mention attribute

[vale jungle]

do i paste the id in id <#channel_id>

or what

this is so confusing

[fast osprey]

If you send the text [#12345](/guild/267624335836053506/channel/12345/), literally, to discord it will render a mention to channel with the id 12345

or you can use get_channel(id).mention

[vale jungle]

show i replace the id with the channel id

[quick gust]

What's even your purpose, how are you obtaining the channel ID?
Is it hardcoded in?

[fast osprey]

You're allowed to try things without asking if you should every time

[vale jungle]

no when u run the command it should say
ctx.author.mention will have to apply at #apply to get the ip

[quick gust]

So just use that channel's ID

<#channel_id_goes_here>

[vale jungle]

so i add an underscore

[quick gust]

No, just the channel ID

what I wrote is just a placeholder to tell you where the channel ID goes

[fast osprey]

.

[#5678](/guild/267624335836053506/channel/5678/) will render a mention to channel with id 5678. [#42069](/guild/267624335836053506/channel/42069/) will render a mention to channel with id 42069.

[vale jungle]

thx

it worked

srry for the hard time

[quick gust]

Funny thing is it'll still work if they add random underscores in the channel ID lol

[woeful hill]

just like python

[stark ingot]

API is written partially in python so that might be why 😅

[radiant shuttle]

can someone tell me how to achieve that in a ticket .py file?

to use send my text with my avatar and my name as APP, how it that possible>

[fast osprey]

When you send a message via webhook, you can set the avatar and display name at the time of sending the message

[tender bobcat]

How did you know

[stark ingot]

Not exactly sure where I picked up that info. They reference python in a few blog posts iirc. And I think the API devs have also just said they use some python in various discord chats.

[vale jungle]

how do i fix this

[quick gust]

!d discord.ext.commands.has_permissions

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.has\_permissions

@discord.ext.commands.has_permissions(**perms)```
A [`check()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.check) that is added that checks if the member has all of the permissions necessary.

Note that this check operates on the current channel permissions, not the guild wide permissions.

The permissions passed in must be exactly like the properties shown under [`discord.Permissions`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.Permissions)...

[quick gust]

you're looking for this

[burnt quiver]

!d discord.ext.commands.bot_has_permissions

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.bot\_has\_permissions

@discord.ext.commands.bot_has_permissions(**perms)```
Similar to [`has_permissions()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.has_permissions) except checks if the bot itself has the permissions listed.

This check raises a special exception, [`BotMissingPermissions`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.BotMissingPermissions) that is inherited from [`CheckFailure`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.CheckFailure).

[vale jungle]

Alr solved it was to be removed the bot.commands

How do u make it only when u have certain roles u can use kick ban purge and timeout

[burnt quiver]

!d discord.ext.commands.has_any_role

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.has\_any\_role

@discord.ext.commands.has_any_role(*items)```
A [`check()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.check) that is added that checks if the member invoking the command has **any** of the roles specified. This means that if they have one out of the three roles specified, then this check will return `True`.

Similar to [`has_role()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.has_role), the names or IDs passed in must be exact.

This check raises one of two special exceptions, [`MissingAnyRole`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.MissingAnyRole) if the user is missing all roles, or [`NoPrivateMessage`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.NoPrivateMessage) if it is used in a private message. Both inherit from [`CheckFailure`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.CheckFailure)...

[fast osprey]

Or just let people use the built in versions of things which already have permission checks and better security than anything you'll build (purge excluded)

[tender bobcat]

Oh ok

[glad cradle]

sometimes some discord staff leaks portions of code to explain how beta features works 🙏💀

[last cradle]

is there a work around to getting a users bio? and the nitro tier badges?

[fast osprey]

click on them

[last cradle]

in a bot app…

[quick gust]

I'm like 99% sure you cannot get a user's bio through a bot token

[fast osprey]

but why would a user need to use an app for that info when they can just click

[grave sandal]

Maybe the public flags that show other stuff would have it?
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/66951118/discord-py-showing-user-badges

[last cradle]

cos i wanna display the bio of a user in a userinfo command…

[fast osprey]

Yeah but why would they bother running that if they could just click, you're only adding extra steps

Either way, bios and certain user flags are specifically withheld from bots

[leaden cypress]

Anyone know how to use sir-lancebot in my own server?

[sick birch]

The GitHub repo should have instructions on getting it set up

[vapid parcel]

Is there an event for when an Audit Log is made?

Or created ^

Not talking abt events for each thing, talking abt for just Audit Logs.

So you can log anything in Audit logs.

[timber dragon]

Yes

[timber dragon]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.on_audit_log_entry_create

[rocky wadi]

!d

[unkempt canyon]

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[still breach]

Hey y’all! 👋
Been working on a Python Discord bot the past few weeks — just finished adding an XP + rank system with image-based cards (like the ones MEE6 has).
Trying to keep everything lightweight and modular — might even open-source parts of it soon.

Curious: what features do you actually find useful in bots these days? I feel like most bots are bloated with stuff nobody uses 😅
Would love to hear what your server uses the most — or even features you wish existed but don’t see often.
Feel free to dm if you need anything.

[fast osprey]

Bots that just staple on random features without having a clear, precise niche just become mee6 bloatware

I'd much rather have 5 small bots that do specific things than 3 that are random Frankensteins of unimaginative copy paste commands

[sick birch]

yeah. i far prefer bots that do something very specific but do it very well

[still breach]

ok so you mean like if i were to implement for example some mini game in my bot i should do it good

im currently trying to become a freelance bot developer so im asking for other peoples advice beacuse chatgpt gave me a small foundation

[fast osprey]

More like you should have a stated, narrow purpose for your bot and do that

Rather than just picking random disparate things that people like

Like if I make a streamlined todo bot, shoving gacha anime wives into it just because people like gacha anime wives doesnt make any sense

[still breach]

yea i get what you are saying i shouldnt do 2 diffrent things

[dusk pelican]

too many bots, more discord bots than humans nowdays

[vapid parcel]

Whats up with a random invite being made every day around the same time. But NO user attached to it? Is this related to a discord thing or what is this..?

As you can see, everyone has an invite user, besides the top one?

It just has no user, and I am wondering if this is a thing I should worry about or just not care about it?

and reason why im talking about this in discord bots is because, I was wondering if a discord bot was doing it and some how not showing the user to. As I have logs to show when an invite is made n stuff and it never knows the user either.

[tender bobcat]

Maybe some widget thing?

Or the website, I forgot what it called

[vapid parcel]

We have DISBOARD, but it has its own invite already

i have no clue what else would causing it..

[tender bobcat]

I meant some discord native feature

[vapid parcel]

Yeah, but like what?

also, if discord made the feature, the author / owner of the invite should be Discord

[fast osprey]

bots can't just decide they're not the creator of an invite, so no

[vapid parcel]

so what in discord is doing it?

[fast osprey]

well if it's not a bot, it's not a question for discord-bots is it

[tender bobcat]

You have to also consider discord itself, as far as I concern, doesn't have a account in a conventional sense

Hmm, it does have a user ID

[vapid parcel]

you never know

[jaunty cape]

Bro why are you using AI generated messages, this is a fricking chatting channel

[timber dragon]

does it really matter

[vapid parcel]

Yo, does on_member_join return what code / invite code was used?

If not, is there a way to get what invite code a user used?

[fast osprey]

there is not

[vapid parcel]

Well, discord should ADD that lowkey ong

trust, idk why discord doesnt have that ngl

how do other bots do it then?

[fast osprey]

they don't

they guess

[vapid parcel]

Huh 😭

[fast osprey]

check how many uses are left on all invites -> see someone join -> check again -> fail miserably due to race conditions and server lag

[vapid parcel]

oh..

So then uh, if the invite tracker was to see like ya know 100 people join within a second, which is possible ofc, uh they would completely die 💀

Alright, so thats a COOL thing to know. Not making the feature now!!

[fast osprey]

Mostly they would just give completely wrong results

especially if you care about who used which invite

[vapid parcel]

yeah alright then. Ty for letting me know, do you know why discord might not add this? Privacy reasons?

just curious on why discord actually doesn't allow us to grab this information ig

[fast osprey]

That presupposes that discord does things for reasons

which is sadly not often the case

[vapid parcel]

so real lmao

💀

alr, well ty for the answer, assuming all invite trackers are now 50% accurate or 0% accurate based on this information. Uh yeah, invite trackers are goofy then, should be a feature via discord or some bot MADE by discord but thatll never happen, we know this 💀

[fast osprey]

They might, who knows. It's available for human users now iirc

Don't know if it's a privacy thing, I'm honestly struggling to understand an ethical use case for why you'd want to treat people differently based on what invite they used

[vapid parcel]

No no, actually the purpose for me was a logging bot. So you know who is using what invite blah blah. Not to treat them different, more of just so you know whos inviting who just incase..?

Scenario: Say person1 invites person2 right? And person1 starts to act weird / inappropriate in the server with person2, then you can narrow it down to those 2 being friends via logs ofc or invite links.

Thats just a scenario ofc, not saying its happening, just an idea behind why I wanted to do it ya know?

if that scenario even makes sense.. 💀

Yes ofc you can say "well if those 2 are being inappropriate no need to figure out the invite link blah blah"

Yeah ofc you don't need it, more for receipts or whatever ig.

Example video here. But since its not directly possible im going to move on and not make the invite tracker a thing ofc. But you get the scenario in a way but yeah.

[fast osprey]

you can get at this yourself via the members settings menu if it's for moderation purposes

[vapid parcel]

On who invited who?

[fast osprey]

ya

[vapid parcel]

If so, then I did not know that, my bad

Alright, so yeah, no need to actually make a feature then. Well thats nice to know

❤️

[fast osprey]

server settings -> members -> type in the name -> hover over the invite code

[vapid parcel]

Alr ty

[tender bobcat]

I mean as a user (a moderator of the server), you can see it

Oh it have been talked about

[zinc lily]

hmm

Is python or discordjs better for disc bots

I mean the last one I wrote was in discordjs and It was pretty easy

[tender bobcat]

If you ask in a python server, python

And the honest answer is the language you knew the best

[sick birch]

mods have a tab in the discord UI for that

not much reason to have it in a bot anymore

oh someone already mentioned that. lol

[tender bobcat]

lol, 3 times 😂

[fast osprey]

[vapid parcel]

Python if you know python, as you use cogs, and in discordjs you have to create a lot of custom things from what I was told. But again, depends on if you like python, or javascript, I would recommend python as I am in a python server. But again, thats all on what language you know.

[proud saddle]

its finnaly work

its just database for rp server in game fivem, its for like LSPD discord, you just type your name your badge number and you can search your name by your badge number

sqlite

[shell canyon]

Guys. Does anyone know why the Discord bot on the Discord.py library stopped running? The terminal says this: ...[INFO ] discord.client: logging in using static token

[zinc lily]

yeah thats true

I mean I'm fine in both python and js but yeah I see your point there

thank you ❤️

[zinc lily]

yeah alright

thank you

[fast osprey]

That alone isn't anything to go on

Code and the full terminal output would be helpful

[vapid parcel]

I can give you an example bot in dms to help you start if needed.

[fresh sky]

Quick and stupid question: How is it that 'DiscordBot' has channels, but not roles?

-'DiscordBot' object has no attribute 'get_roles'

trying to make a function to post things to a specific channel and ping a specific role, but I am too incompetent to figure it out 🙁

The other attempt was just sending the role directly, but would I need to make it pingable first?

[quick gust]

!d discord.Guild.get_role

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Guild.get\_role

get_role(role_id, /)```
Returns a role with the given ID.

Changed in version 2.0: `role_id` parameter is now positional-only.

[timber dragon]

roles are per server

[quick gust]

you can use this if you have the guild ID

[timber dragon]

or channel.guild.get_role

[quick gust]

yep basically you just need a Guild

[timber dragon]

bot.get_channel loops through each guild to get the channel so it can be slower than doing it directly on the correct Guild

[fresh sky]

ah, found the problem, apparently the bot needs mention everyone perms to ping a role

[timber dragon]

or the role needs to be mentionable yeah

just like users

[fresh sky]

Thanks ❤️

Is there any way to combine the ping and the embed into one message?

await channel.send("<@&1234>")
await channel.send(embed=embed)

does it twice, which is not ideal

[timber dragon]

await channel.send("content", embed=...) or await channel.send(embed=..., content="...")

[fresh sky]

ah, perfect, thanks ❤️

[proud saddle]

sqlite database with discord.py

B.N is badge number, its for rp discord LSPD server

[gritty inlet]

Made a wrapper for ComponentsV2 lol (dpy is taking way too long to release theirs )

Implemented it here for example (:

[velvet rover]

How do I set the footer icon on an embed to a users pfp?

[gritty inlet]

Depends on what kind of user

Any user? Interaction user?

[velvet rover]

uhhh

Would it help to show the entire function?

[gritty inlet]

Is it the user who ran the command?

[velvet rover]

it's an event

[gritty inlet]

Which

[gritty inlet]

icon_url = message.author.avatar.url if message.author.avatar else None

Without the if statement, it can raise an error when there's no avatar and you don't want that

[timber dragon]

or usemessage.author.display_avatar.url, display_avatar cannot be None

[velvet rover]

Ah, what you had originally worked.

Thanks so much you ywo

*two

[stark ingot]

Are you validating inputs to the command options at all? If so I am curious how you are doing that.

[gritty inlet]

A short syntax way for your bot to display mobile status (😭)

Or you can just go to the right file and change it

[timber dragon]

man that belongs in.. sec

#esoteric-python ?

yes

[gritty inlet]

Oh okay sorry

[timber dragon]

it's a joke dw lol

[proud saddle]

with discord.id

i made Patrol system

[fast osprey]

Are you asking for help on something...?

[velvet rover]

What's the field where you put the image there?

[proud saddle]

embed.set_thumbnail(url=interaction.user.avatar)

[velvet rover]

thumbnail ok

[proud saddle]

yes

[velvet rover]

thanks

[stark ingot]

I meant the date/time inputs, can I enter random stuff in those options?

[proud saddle]

@bot.tree.command(name="pomoc", description="Jak použít Příkazy.")
async def pomoc(interaction: discord.Interaction):
    embed = discord.Embed(title="Help", color=discord.Color.dark_blue())
    embed.add_field(name="/settings", value="`Musíš vyplnit informace` </find:1402298966363738315>", inline=True)
    embed.add_field(name="/find", value="`Podle B.N najdeš informace` </settings:1402078090527641840>", inline=True)
    embed.add_field(name="/patrola", value="`Po konci patroli ji zapíšeš` </patrola:1402298966363738316>", inline=True)
    await interaction.response.send_message(embed=embed, ephemeral=True)```


why is my command doesent work? its not vissible in discor and not synced

[proud saddle]

yes. but it doesent work

[gritty inlet]

Restart Discord

Commands take time to appear, and when you restart they will appear right after

[proud saddle]

this is printed ✅ Synchronizováno 3 slash commandů.

it mean 3 works but 4. not. this is 4

[gritty inlet]

Ah code problem then

Any errors?

[proud saddle]

no

[gritty inlet]

Sure you saved, git-pulled or whatever

[proud saddle]

what is git pulled

[gritty inlet]

Forget that

[proud saddle]

wait im dumb

i accidantly remove my 1. command [ sorry for my englisg ]✅

[gritty inlet]

All good (:

[proud saddle]

oh my god

[proud saddle]

👍

badge number is like discord.id, in my system

[gritty inlet]

Oh so an identifier

Yeah that's cool

[burnt quiver]

very cul stuff

[proud saddle]

thanks

[proud saddle]

anyone now how to make this embed? i didnt mean the values but like this lines

[finite salmon]

|

In some keyboards it's shift + \

[proud saddle]

i know \n
but its field its description its what

its like description="\ndandysek\ndandysektest"

or what

[sharp kettle]

I need help

[proud saddle]

with?

[sharp kettle]

I have a custom command bot but every time I start it I get

[proud saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-i-dont-know-gif-14777043

[sharp kettle]

Pls help

[proud saddle]

i dont know its so hard i am new

[sharp kettle]

Ok

[gritty inlet]

Show the from discord.commands line

I'll help

It seems as if this is the whole line. In Python, you cannot do from discord.commands and that's it. You may do from discord.commands import x

Yeah I don't think you need a while loop

Let me see...

So you don't really gotta change it

I mean at least for what I can see it looks solid

But maybe other people can help

[sharp kettle]

See the CC.Py

[gritty inlet]

Is the 6000 char limit counting for description + footer + author alltogether?

Hmm

Ah yeah

Well yeah you need to do that to know if you need to make another embed

[fast osprey]

why can't you test it yourself

[vapid parcel]

Yo, anyone know an alternative to discord.watch? They shutdown a year ago, and I have no clue if anyone has made a new one or anything?

Yes, this is related to discord bots 😭

[fast osprey]

what is that?

[vapid parcel]

https://web.archive.org/web/20240114095358/https://discord.watch/

Was a website to track all discord bots if the bot Discord Watch was in it, it would track the guild count for that bot, and allow you to "Promote" your bot in a way kinda.

Discord Watch was a very popular thing from what I knew.. but maybe I am wrong

[fast osprey]

like top.gg? But either way this doesn't sound like it has anything to do with making a bot, or making a bot in python specifically

[vapid parcel]

But basically they had charts that would show growth and much more, was just a little thing to get information based on a bot ofc

[vapid parcel]

Topgg doesn't show charts related to guild count and growth. But yes kinda like topgg, also figured it fit in the category because it revolves around discord bot development.

[red palm]

I mean its a way to grow your "Discord Bot" but anyways why do you care?

the man is just asking a question

[vapid parcel]

its not that deep joe 😭

[timber dragon]

Typical joe

[vapid parcel]

so real

[gritty inlet]

I know the owner and they shut down for the funniest reason

House fire 😭

And no there was no up to date backup

[fast osprey]

Places have topics

[gritty inlet]

Well I assume they asked here since this channel regards Dbots in some way. Can't blame 'em, it's not like Ddevs is a very welcoming place

But yeah following topics is appropriate

[velvet rover]

How do I go about checking wether it was a bot or a user that deleted a message?

[fast osprey]

Unless a user deleted their own message, it'll show up as an audit log entry along with who did it

[vapid parcel]

yes I know. The owner was def hacked tho

and its wild that no one backs up anything, we run minio on its own server and thats all

[velvet rover]

Is there a way to not only grab the users name so I can send it in a logs message, but also make sure the message was deleted by a user not a bot?

[gritty inlet]

Not that I know. I know that it was due to a house fire

[sharp kettle]

Hi I fixed but I have a new problem now

@gritty inlet help

[gritty inlet]

You use discord.py?

(Looks like it)

[sharp kettle]

Py-cord

[gritty inlet]

Ah

Then it doesn't have app_commands

Looks like you copied discord.py syntax

[sharp kettle]

what is that

Lol someone made me the bot not me

[stark ingot]

You should ask what library they use. The different libraries are not compatible

[sharp kettle]

Oh

Cybrancee supports various libraries for Discord bots including but not limited to:

1. discord.js - A powerful Node.js module that enables you to interact with the Discord API easily.
2. discord.py - A Python wrapper for the Discord API, allowing you to write bots using Python.

Users can create and manage their bots using these libraries depending on their preferred programming language.

If you need further assistance or specific guides on setting up your Discord bot, please let us know!

[sharp kettle]

Here

!python

[gritty inlet]

It's not about that, you're mixing 2 libraries in your code

[sharp kettle]

[stark ingot]

There is no reason that they can only support discord.py. it is probably a stupid host that preinstalls the library for no reason

[gritty inlet]

Mhm. And if they do, you'll have to use it...

[sharp kettle]

I can disable it

[stark ingot]

But this is the main problem ^

[sharp kettle]

Does anyone know cybrancee

[stark ingot]

No but your host should not matter for errors in your code

[sharp kettle]

Wdym

[gritty inlet]

The host wants you to use discord.py

Wait no

[sharp kettle]

Ok that’s what am using

Oh

[gritty inlet]

"Including but not limited to"

[sharp kettle]

ya

[gritty inlet]

So you can use Pycord, I assume. But make sure you don't mix in code from discord.py

[sharp kettle]

So I have to use discord.py or py-cord not both

?

[sharp kettle]

Am I right

[stark ingot]

Yes

[sharp kettle]

Oh shi-

Ok thanks

[stark ingot]

You don't need to use both because they both cover pretty much the same features

[sharp kettle]

@stark ingot @gritty inlet can one of u make my bot py-cord only or discord.py only I will send the bot.py

[gritty inlet]

I'm not familiar with pycord syntax

[burnt quiver]

don't use ai :blobpain:

[gritty inlet]

Yeah you're right 😭

[burnt quiver]

just send the relevant code here. Conflicting over which library to use won't help you in making a bot, so just choose one

[snow oasis]

hello, for a crowbot discord it's better discord.py or pycord ?

[fast osprey]

Entirely personal preference

[fast osprey]

Also what the heck is a crowbot

[snow oasis]

I think it's a term french

it's a bot that can do it all on your Discord server

[fast osprey]

Well it's your choice what library you use

[radiant shuttle]

i am trying to sync patreon with discord

i already made a test sub and still says 0 active patreons

here is my code

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/V6DTCMKNF74WFOXRTQQYIPBESU

[fast osprey]

404

[unkempt canyon]

Click here to see this code in our pastebin.

[radiant shuttle]

can you see from this?

[fast osprey]

Seems like this is a problem with the patreon api/client, not discord

[radiant shuttle]

yes but its like 15 hours+ from the time i created the API , i send them an email and i am still waiting for answer

so the code is fine right?

[fast osprey]

I wouldn't know, I don't use the patreon API

[radiant shuttle]

ok i wait for their answer then ,as the code have no problem

[fast osprey]

If you have a problem with the patreon API/client specifically, you should ask them or a community dedicated to it. This is not that

But it would help to do some narrowing, put in some debugging to identify the line specifically that isn't working like you expect

[vapid parcel]

Pretty sure hw as though, who knows

Wanted crypto for discord.watch and I did NOT wanna do allat, was gonna buy discord.watch, but they had no source code no nothing, so I was not gonna do that.

[gritty inlet]

The guy I told you I know is a newer owner, he got ownership I think after the fire happened

The thing is, for like a year, Watch was running on leftovers 😭

Until the code started failing due to things like outdated libs, etc. To the point where it wasn't functional anymore

[vapid parcel]

Yeah

Im talking abt a furry owner.. forgot his name, but he was the newer owner from what I remember..?

But he seemed to be hacked from what I remember.

🤷‍♂️

Not like it matters, discord.watch is now dead.

[gritty inlet]

Yeah that's him

[gritty inlet]

Either way there was nothing he could've done, he basically told me that

[white citrus]

Why is the channel id invalid

[stark ingot]

Try restarting discord

[white citrus]

Thats all

[white citrus]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/3AIQ

The participants list is not showing anything

[fast osprey]

have you tried debugging the relevant variable(s)?

[white citrus]

yeah

[fast osprey]

And?

[white citrus]

i tried to convert the list

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/6LDA

[fast osprey]

You're looping over something called participants. Do you know what the value of that is?

[white citrus]

Teilnehmer (Typ): <class 'list'>
Teilnehmer: [881929560059428924]

its a list

[fast osprey]

okay, then what is happening in that loop as you're looping over it?

[gritty inlet]

That's the list itself,
Let's say you want to have all participants in a simple string, you'll do:
text = ", ".join(participants)

This is a basic example and of course you don't have to do it this way

[molten bramble]

Odd

[fast osprey]

looks like a timeout on reconnect

[jovial ingot]

The serverit is poopish

[radiant shuttle]

can anyone recommend a platform like patreon good for discord bot donation subscription system?

[quick gust]

You can use "Memberships" and their webhooks but there is no proper documentation for them

[radiant shuttle]

is stripe a good solution?

[quick gust]

Yeah stripe is good

[ivory parrot]

Hi everyone! Quick question... you've probably seen or used discord.builders to integrate buttons and dropdowns into your bot's embeds. Could someone help me out? I'm trying to figure out how to use it properly.

[timber dragon]

Those are not embeds.

But how you could it depends on the library you use, if any

[radiant shuttle]

but i have to keep ngrok online all the time right? for Signing secret

[quick gust]

Not sure, I haven't used stripe before

[white citrus]

I will try

[stark ingot]

Is discords app monetization available in your region?

[gritty inlet]

discord.builders is just a webpage to test Discord's ComponentsV2 feature

You're not supposed to use it "in production"

As of using ComponentsV2: some libraries already have the feature,
I for example use discord.py and it's taking them decades to add it so I just made my own Python wrapper for it

[gritty inlet]

The logic is pretty simple (discord.builders helped me with the JSON structure 🫡)

(This is just a fraction of it all, but it's an example)

[vapid parcel]

w calculator honestly.

[topaz stratus]

cool

[molten bramble]

Someone told me this is normal for a bot if it’s only in 1 server

[stark ingot]

seems about right, resumed gateway connections are normal and expected. The 13.4 seconds behind may indicate blocking code or it might have just been a one off occurrence.

number of servers is not relevant to what is shown in that screenshot

[molten bramble]

It goes back online after that

[stark ingot]

resumes should happen quick enough that the bot does not appear offline for more then a few seconds, if at all

[gritty inlet]

Will look better with ComponentsV2

[gritty inlet]

Can internet speed affect it?

And it shouldn't be a blocking code, that gives a different warning

[quick gust]

I've always wondered what the use of that is
You're on a device, just open a calculator?
Unless it's to learn and build something to gain experience, there's no practical use imo

[celest pelican]

Shared calculating! :D

[burnt quiver]

there's probaly (hopefully) a check

[woeful hill]

more fun waiting for a round trip when input something

the computer's calculator app works so fast we gotta nerf it

[vapid parcel]

same with my owner control panel!

this is what my owner control panel looks like, its very complicated lmao. But its something thats good imo

[gritty inlet]

How do you restart? 🤔

[quick gust]

Using a process manager

[gritty inlet]

So just killing the bot ig?

Eh I mean it's not a bad thing

[quick gust]

And turning it back on

[fast osprey]

That's pretty much the accepted and common way for any managed process

[vapid parcel]

They explained it, but yeah.

Pretty cool control panel imo. Synced via owner ids, so not anyone can just use it

[compact root]

whatsup

[vapid parcel]

And its synced to a certain guild, so only 1 guild can see it

[compact root]

damn python has a huge community

[vapid parcel]

Also, if u wanna know how our logging buttons work, we have setup logging like this:

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ALRQ

[gritty inlet]

I just make the console direct to a txt file

Some Linux stuff

[vapid parcel]

Yes, but i rather be logging, as our bots are ran on linux ofc, but in development we are also using windows, mac, or other devices.

So you have to make it User Friendly for the team.

[gritty inlet]

[vapid parcel]

The control embed is the best thing I've ever made imo

[gritty inlet]

Honestly I find on_interaction useful (discord.py), ok yeah it's an internal but it does some things that i need

[fast osprey]

Like

[gritty inlet]

responding to expired buttons from a few commands that i still didnt migrate to use dynamic items

and for buttons in ComponentsV2 until dpy adds that

[fast osprey]

You do you I guess, weird thing to flex about

[timber dragon]

on_interaction is an event like all the others, nothing internal about it

[gritty inlet]

I guess this guy was wrong then (dpy server)

[fast osprey]

Get a load of this guy

[timber dragon]

@restive perch smh my head

[restive perch]

What

[fast osprey]

The idea is that the library gives you more elegant and maintainable ways of routing interactions. The exception being unimplemented interaction types, but your other example is just electing to not use what the library gives you

[red solar]

What kind of bot u guys r working on 💀

[restive perch]

This was a year ago

[fast osprey]

A bot that tells people what kind of bot to make

[red solar]

[fast osprey]

Bad inside joke. Currently looking into a prompt sharing tool for art communities

[red solar]

Ik , that's good

Btw making a large scale bot is worth it

[ivory parrot]

u have an example of a command with a separator and a button/dropdown menu so I can see what it would look like?

[stark ingot]

I'm making a bot to create/administer surveys.
Also a user app tag bot that I am going to add a bunch too not just, tag get/create/edit

[red solar]

Oh nice

[young dagger]

Would be interesting to know. How do you handle temp bans?

[vapid parcel]

Hey, thats a good question, I can show you my handler that might explain how its all done!

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/JIHQ

This shows my worker + my command.

This is all done using PostgresSQL, a lot of the stuff you are seeing in there is custom functions or custom connections, so you can't copy that exact logic, but you get the whole idea!

[astral sand]

Is it possible to ask my bot to delete messages from the user in a DM?

[fast osprey]

No

[rugged steeple]

thats a lot of nesting.

[burnt quiver]

can't you do something like that instead of fetching all the bans

and then loop through all of them

[fast osprey]

Or just time people out instead of banning them if you want it temporary, weird move

[burnt quiver]

real

[vapid parcel]

🤷‍♂️

Its just a discord bot 😭

[vapid parcel]

Self bot, but its against ToS so don't even bother.

[vapid parcel]

You could, but imo idrc

[vapid parcel]

Temp ban has been a thing in many bots 😭

[fast osprey]

Just because people do things doesnt mean it's remotely smart to do

(Or that it wasn't made obsolete by native features that were introduced after those bots were made)

[stark ingot]

But temp ban is not the only thing that could leverage this code

[gritty inlet]

(This isn't functional but I was making a prototype)

[quick gust]

You should really invest in making it as an Activity instead

working with images for this stuff is not fun

(assuming that's an image, I have no idea how componentsv2 work)

[gritty inlet]

Very true

And yea that's an image

I don't plan on making activities as I'm not a web dev and that's what it takes

[quick gust]

Valid

[gritty inlet]

Indeed
Interestingly enough, I recently found a bot that's in 6k servers and monetized, that uses a selfbot in its backend ☠️

[young dagger]

Just a suggestion, instead of sending a new DM when unbanning (not sure it will reach them if they don't share a mutual server), you could edit the old DM to say that it expired

Thanks for sharing btw

[gritty inlet]

The user might not notice that

[young dagger]

Well you could ghost ping in a try except

In the worst case, nothing will reflect the change

So I guess it's better than nothing

[vapid parcel]

Thats why I send the invite first just incase..

I think i do, forgot ngl

I personally think the code is fine how it is, sure there are improvements, but at the end of the day, it works fine as is. No pyright errors, no typehint errors either.

[young dagger]

Why not use a permanent invite link?

Also why not use a Discord timestamp instead of {readable_time}?

[vapid parcel]

Because sometimes the timestamps are annoying, I only use them when I think it looks good imo

Timestamp would look bad in this imo

[vapid parcel]

No need for a permanent.

[gritty inlet]

Honestly you could let the invite link embed, because it shows "invalid" or whatever when you're banned from the server

[vapid parcel]

Read the note.

If you try to join before the unban, completely on u

🤷‍♂️

[young dagger]

I just don't see the reason for having a temp invite link

[gritty inlet]

Yeah I read it, was just a suggestion (:

[young dagger]

Is there some logic behind it?

[gritty inlet]

Ngl I'd add a relative timestamp for in how long you get unbanned

[gritty inlet]

It's not temporary, it won't work for you when you're banned

At least I guess that's how it is

[young dagger]

I already suggested that lol

[gritty inlet]

Well yeah but it doesn't have to be instead of the text that tells you for how long

Imo the best would be both

[young dagger]

Why though

[gritty inlet]

As a user I'd like to know immediately for how long it is, but also have a relative timestamp

Because if you put only one of those, and this goes for both - you'll need to "calculate" the other one (if you wanna know it), I think putting both makes it easier for people

[young dagger]

That’s what a relative timestamp does

[gritty inlet]

Hopefully that doesn't sound too confusing

[gritty inlet]

Oh yea right forget the "immediately"

Hmm u have a point but still I'd have both, I don't have a good argument as of why xD
But yeah if I had to choose just one, it'd be relative

[fast osprey]

Nice tos violation

[gritty inlet]

Is it good to use Optional for nullables? 🤔

[timber dragon]

I don't see why not

[gritty inlet]

[sick birch]

nowadays it's recommended to use T | None syntax but Optional is fine as long as you stay consistent

[timber dragon]

Unless you really want to tell the user that the field wasn't there

[gritty inlet]

T as in a placeholder or

[timber dragon]

The type yes

[sick birch]

T would be the type if the variable had something other than none

[gritty inlet]

Well I knew Optional was like a shortcut to that

[sick birch]

it is, but if you use it in a function declaration it could be confused for a variable being "optional" (in that it has a default)

[gritty inlet]

Nah in func declarations I dont use Optional

Kinda pointless since var: type = None tells you that

If provided - should be that type otherwise None..

[fast osprey]

typehints aren't just for humans reading it, it's for typecheckers which isn't pointless to tell them what the variable could be

[gritty inlet]

Alright

Well in the context of Optional what I said isn't really wrong

Since Optional doesn't do much, in terms of var attributes

Unless there's more stuff where it is necessary

[fast osprey]

typehints don't do much at all on their own

so why bother typehinting at all

[grave sandal]

If you want to be more subtle and enjoy writing it more, consider using TypeName | None, it's evident that it can be this one value, or is none, and it doesn't require an import and takes up less space. It also works backwards to python3.8 so long as you import from __future__ import annotations.

[burnt quiver]

^

[timber dragon]

unless it's checked at runtime by some package

[gritty inlet]

Is that the same case for Union?

[vapid parcel]

Recommend using basedpyright and ruff check to make sure your code is good 👍

[timber dragon]

That is a Union so yes

[vapid parcel]

Also, personal opinion, recommend 3.10 or higher with dpy. But each their own ofc!

[burnt quiver]

why is primary guild still a clan here lol

[timber dragon]

Or 3.12 while you at it since that's kinda the standard

and enjoy the new typing features :)

[vapid parcel]

I personally use 3.12, but im saying don't go below 3.10.

[gritty inlet]

Well yea (tbh Im using Optional influenced by dpy backend 😭 )

[timber dragon]

Dpy has to because it's 3.8+ and does runtime checking

[gritty inlet]

Optional and Union are all over the place there lmao

[vapid parcel]

Also, very much recommended uv for discord bots as its a lot safer!

Not just discord bots, but any py project

[gritty inlet]

Wait so what exactly does from __future__ import annotations do

[timber dragon]

It's complicated lol

[vapid parcel]

Backwards compatibility if im not wrong? Could be wrong.

[gritty inlet]

Was a bit lazy to change the file and class names lol i can easily do that

But tbh blame Discord, both clan and primary_guild are present in the user response 💀

[timber dragon]

See these https://peps.python.org/pep-0649/
https://peps.python.org/pep-0749/
Ans ask in #type-hinting ig

[grave sandal]

It basically makes the newer annotation stuff work on the older versions, I specifically use it to get the unions with | syntax on 3.8 because I highly prefer writing them that way

[vapid parcel]

So backwards compatibility 😭🙏

[grave sandal]

I'm not sure though, was it originally there on 3.8 before 3.10 came around, or was it there after? because if it was there before is it really backwards compatibility?

[timber dragon]

It's not really for that afaik?

[vapid parcel]

I would consider it backwards compatibility.

[timber dragon]

It was added in 3.7 iirc

[gritty inlet]

I just use 3.10

might upgrade to 13 when it comes out idk

[vapid parcel]

3.12.9 on top ✌️

[grave sandal]

You're good then and can use the syntax without anything extra

[gritty inlet]

Originally because the stable diffusion thingy I have supports just that version

3.10.6 to be exact

[timber dragon]

https://peps.python.org/pep-0563/ is the PEP for it

[vapid parcel]

[gritty inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-book-throw-big-book-big-gif-6274972830285656693

But yeah thanks

[vapid parcel]

Me in college learning Linux 😭

[gritty inlet]

Idk if Im even doing this right

[vapid parcel]

I cant wait for dpy to release 2.6.0

[burnt quiver]

soooon

[grave sandal]

What comes in 2.6.0?

[vapid parcel]

Trust lol

[burnt quiver]

cv2

[vapid parcel]

V2 components

[gritty inlet]

About damn time

[vapid parcel]

Which ate fire

[burnt quiver]

modals v2 sooon

[gritty inlet]

Eh I mean it's just a select menu

They shouldve added upload button

[burnt quiver]

advaith said they are planning to add more

like role selects

[vapid parcel]

Yes, its a fire thing tho 🙏

[gritty inlet]

Modals are currently bland

Ngl I'll miss my code

But there's goodbyes to everything

[vapid parcel]

No return types 😢

[gritty inlet]

For some reason that's the only file in the REST client that i didnt do that in yet

Ill do that

[vapid parcel]

😭🙏

[gritty inlet]

Awesome

Nah but fr tho why is that happening 😭

Maybe because Container class def is under ComponentsV2 class?

[burnt quiver]

probably

[gritty inlet]

Weird that its an issue only for the return type

[burnt quiver]

iirc from __future__ import annotations should fix that and you shouldn't have to change

[gritty inlet]

ill just move it up (:

[vapid parcel]

😅

[grave sandal]

You can wrap it in quotes if you don't want to do that like "Container"

[last cradle]

what are some sure ways to tell if a user has nitro

well all

[fast osprey]

none. Discord doesn't tell you and you don't need to know

[dusk pelican]

hello pythonistas, whats new on discord api?

why you need to know if someone has nitro? I mean for discord sure, but for a bot

[gritty inlet]

No sure way. You can check for banner / animated avatar though

[gritty inlet]

If interaction user, you can also check for upload size limit

[vapid parcel]

Hey, so this is not related to discord bots, but have no clue where to ask.

So I use UV in my discord bots, and when doing uv export > requirements.txt --no-dev it puts the file format to UTF-16LE and I am wondering if it should be that format, or if it should be UTF-8?

[fast osprey]

Sooo don't ask it in the discord bot channel?

[vapid parcel]

Where else can I ask it?

It relates to my discord bots, but not exactly related to discord bots 💀

[fast osprey]

Any reason why you'd use that over something more ubiquitous like pip?

[vapid parcel]

I just prefer pip, and it does hash checks.

Security reasons.

[fast osprey]

is the implication that pip isn't secure?

[vapid parcel]

I just see uv as more secure cuz of hash checks and all of that!

[vapid parcel]

also mb, didnt know they had a discord!

[fast osprey]

Also https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/topics/secure-installs/

[red solar]

Ah- so I need some advice. Is it really worth investing the time and effort into developing a complex, collectible-trading Discord bot that features economy systems, marketplace mechanics, and interactive multiplayer elements, similar in functionality to existing large-scale bots?

[fast osprey]

Would people choose to use your bot over an existing one

[red solar]

Ah- I’m just a programmer… my creative brain is dead. I’ve wanted to make something like that for 4–5 years, and every 2–3 months I feel like doing it again. But each time, I get stuck on these same question.

[fast osprey]

It really depends on you and what makes you happy. If your happiness hinges on people using what you build, you need to build something useful and unique

If your happiness is just from building something that nobody uses, then great make whatever you'd like

[red solar]

Ah- it’s a time-consuming project. I can’t just start it as a side project for my GitHub, and I want more people to actually use it. For that, I need a creative idea, which I don’t have… That’s why I ask those questions. And if I’m not wrong, having Discord.py on a resume doesn’t really give much of an advantage.

[fast osprey]

Having successful self directed projects isn't nothing

But it's easily less valuable than something more relevant to the position you're applying for

But if your goal is to make something popular, that almost never starts out from looking at existing solutions and thinking how you would tweak them slightly and repackage them. It comes from finding what people want but don't have

[red solar]

Yea u r right , what's your reason to work on discord.py ...just asking

[stark ingot]

My guess is there are extremely few jobs that knowledge of a specific discord bot library gives you bonus points.

[fast osprey]

I find it interesting and fun I guess

[red solar]

Oh

[fast osprey]

I've found one or two niche things that a few people find useful. I have no desire to try to trend chase and make a thousand+ guild bot

[red solar]

Oh get your point

[vast gale]

I take it you've never used poetry, pipenv, pdm, hatch, or uv?

[fast osprey]

I mean you're welcome to make whatever assumptions you want about my experience

[floral pelican]

Anyone who knew about incapsula

[twin pike]

This is what you get when you know how to code and you're bored lol

[merry cliff]

you should hide the results and the emoji in individual ||spoilers|| to enhance the gambling experience

[twin pike]

ooh

I like your style

[merry cliff]

🎰

[twin pike]

lol

great idea

[merry cliff]

ty

[shrewd apex]

this was mine from quite a few years back lol

been quite a while 😔

[timber dragon]

Damn

[twin pike]

teach me your ways

I beg of you 😭

[unkempt canyon]

Click here to see this code in our pastebin.

[untold goblet]

difflib?

i tried doing this once using difflib

it's to do with sequencematcher

sorry i have to catch a bus ride

[twin pike]

thats actually cool

I could help if you put your code on pastebin

[twin pike]

alr

im on mobile so itll be a min lol

quick question

why do you have your variables in all caps

you dont gotta scream it lol

it looks like AI when its like that

other than that I have absolutely no idea

I've never seen anything like that

cool beans though

your variables for COLOR_EQUAL

I just write those in normal letters

not caps

then again nothing i make ever works so

dont listen to me

xD

[woeful hill]

constants are often named using screaming snake case

[dusk pelican]

hello

what bots you working on?

[fast osprey]

^

[dusk pelican]

no thanks. What is the purpose of ServerLogger? To log the servers the bot is in?

[fast osprey]

So the audit log but also invading user privacy

[dusk pelican]

mhh, is that necessary to log? A lot of data

@slate swan what functions does your bot have?

[fast osprey]

I will and I have

[dusk pelican]

are you polish?

ah ok, you know mata, I think i have heard a song from him

but anyways, why you log so much data?

@slate swan

Do you have a ban kick command in your bot?

what is a softban? a temp ban?

ok

is your bot online and hosted somewhere?

ok

[pseudo panther]

is there any way to learn good discord python coding?

any book or like any online book?

[fast osprey]

The official python tutorial is quite comprehensive

[shell pelican]

Not very discord python related but where do you find tasks for python
Would be nice to just practice with tasks which engage multiple core topics
In theory leetcode but i aint quite there yet skillwise i think

[fast osprey]

Code abbey is another solid practice site for bite sized problems

[shell pelican]

Thank you

[vital yoke]

how do i check if my bot has the send messages permission without any intents?

[fast osprey]

You don't need any intents to check permissions

channel.permissions_for(guild.me)

Well that requires the guilds intent but pretty much any cache requires that at minimum

[vital yoke]

So I’m screwed

[fast osprey]

No

Guilds is not the same as guild members. Two separate intents

The guilds intent isn't privileged so you can ask for it without approval

[vital yoke]

Okay thank you, I’ll try that

[twin pike]

I don't understand your code one bit really lol

I've never seen anything like it

[shrewd apex]

tbh could just use diff code blocks, generating images per message edit is pretty expensive on the cpu

!d itertools.zip_longest also use this

[unkempt canyon]

itertools.zip\_longest

itertools.zip_longest(*iterables, fillvalue=None)```
Make an iterator that aggregates elements from each of the *iterables*.

If the iterables are of uneven length, missing values are filled-in with *fillvalue*. If not specified, *fillvalue* defaults to `None`.

Iteration continues until the longest iterable is exhausted...

[shrewd apex]

also i am not really clear what's happening in your case or what's the issue you say "strange things happen" so maybe shed some more light on that

[tender bobcat]

Also this only limit:

• Getting the entire list of members in a guild
• Listen to member joining/leaving the guild

So you can still get a specific member in the guild if needed

If they are in the guild

[unkempt canyon]

Please react with ✅ to upload your file(s) to our paste bin, which is more accessible for some users.

[twin pike]

yeah sorry

[fast osprey]

not in any library I'm aware of

I mean technically no library can ever stop you from going into internals or even modifying its source. But in dpy at least there's no supported way to influence the cache beyond setting a size limit

[fast osprey]

Again, you adding messages to the cache isn't supported

[sick birch]

does a message cache even exist

[fast osprey]

Dpy at least (and presumably forks) cache a limited set of messages received while the bot is online

ofc someone could easily make their own cache too and do whatever operations they want with it

[sick birch]

but it's for internal use? I don't think a get_message method exists, right?

[fast osprey]

It's mostly for providing the old message on relevant events (delete/edit)

[tender bobcat]

Oh well, I thought it existed but seemingly it didn't

[gritty inlet]

You can just manually cache completely outside of the lib's code, I don't think there's a good reason to modify the code

[gritty inlet]

Closest thing is get_partial_message

[gritty inlet]

Does the event payload not include the message data?

(Never got deep into the gw events so Idk)

[fast osprey]

No, the payload doesn't give you old states

[dusk pelican]

guys, is there an option in discord server settings to change the roles based on message activity, for example if a user has a total of 100 messages the role changes to like bronze and so on?

[timber dragon]

Nope

That's something only a bot can do

[dusk pelican]

a bot plus a database I assume?

[timber dragon]

Can be hardcoded but sure if it's multi guild / often changing

[fast osprey]

Or a human with way too much free time

[dusk pelican]

mhh ok.

[whole shoal]

a simple bot would be convenient

[dusk pelican]

I have looked inside the discord API and the Gateway, there is a message create event

user sends a message -> messages += 1 like this I assume

[fast osprey]

With a db, this is probably on the order of like 200 lines of code. But at what point is the number of messages a person sends relevant at all, incentivizes the complete wrong thing

[whole shoal]

You can use a sliding window log approach to count number of messages in a certain time window if you want to

[dusk pelican]

mhh ok interesting

sry I am new to discord API and Gateway

[dusk pelican]

the gateway is used to track live events on a server, yeah? Like A message was created, then some informations who created this message, when .....

[fast osprey]

Yes; your bot opens a websocket with the gateway and it pushes subscribed events (intents) down to you

[dusk pelican]

ah ok that is great.

[dusk pelican]

like when a user joins, to send a little message in the welcome channel

XY has joined the server. Welcome and have a nice stay!

yeah?

For what is the API endpoint modify current User and when do I need this, examples?

[fast osprey]

The gateway is how discord pushes events to you. When you want to send instructions to discord that goes through the api

[dusk pelican]

understood, you ever used the modify current user endpoint?

like changing the bots avatar

it is really well documented, I enjoy reading the docs

[fast osprey]

No I haven't had any need for it personally

I'll change presence to announce downtime/maintenance but that's about it (presence does go through the gateway iirc)

[dusk pelican]

ah ok that is an implementation aspect that discord wants to go through the gateway?

can you pleas send a link to the specific page on the discord api

[fast osprey]

Practically speaking, you don't need to know the api

Language specific libraries (like discord.py and its forks) wrap the api calls

[dusk pelican]

yeah it is wrapped into libraries

[fast osprey]

It's fine to read if your curious but for a developer it's one layer deeper than you really need to know for implementation purposes

[dusk pelican]

Sry, I have autism and I always need to know how things work exactly

[fast osprey]

I'm sure you're capable of interacting with things without fully understanding them, or you'd be fully unable to leave your house or pick up the device you're typing on

The discord api is very thoroughly documented though, and you can look at the source of a library to see how it implements it too

https://discord.com/developers/docs/reference

[wooden basalt]

hey
I was wondering if it would be possible to make it so that the discord discover server features could be disabled
via a system

[gritty inlet]

You can do it via server settings, do you want to do it with a bot instead?

[wooden basalt]

how can i do it via a server setting?

[fast osprey]

What server features are you referring to?

And what does this "system" do?

[wooden basalt]

basically

I just want smthing

that disables the explore/discover servers feature on discord

[fast osprey]

Humans can do that. What is triggering this system to do it instead?

[young dagger]

You only want to gain XP once per minute to avoid spam

Not based on number of messages

[dusk pelican]

understood, I have chosen nextcord as my wrapper hopefully you guys understand

@young dagger you are probably using discord py he?

[young dagger]

Mhm

[dusk pelican]

nextcord not good?

reading the docs and it is understandable

[young dagger]

I never used it

[dusk pelican]

what wrapper you using if I may ask?

[young dagger]

Just the same one I’ve always used

https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py

[gritty inlet]

I wouldn't use a fork unless someone told me a really good reason to do it

[fast osprey]

They're all functionally equivalent, the only difference really are some minor design decisions and the support you get

[gritty inlet]

But Idk what Nextcord changes except for syntax

I assume more

[dusk pelican]

Mhhh okay

[dusk pelican]

Whatever suits the best for you 😊

[scarlet tiger]

They’re all the same; only very specific things and the time it takes to add new features change. I used to use discord.py, and I switched to py-cord, and it wasn’t difficult to migrate all the code.

[dusk pelican]

Nice

[timber dragon]

There are many more Python wrappers fwiw

[true stump]

Hello 👋👋

Please I want to learn about discord python but

Is there a crash course

Hello can you help?

I mean no course for it?

I was directed here by a friend

[woeful hill]

No such thing as discord python

You learn python, you read the documentation of the api, or its wrapper and you write a code for that

[timber dragon]

Can't you just use the on_app_command_completion event instead of doing it every command manually?

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.on_app_command_completion

Or on_interaction if you need it to be called immediately after invoke

You can get those from the interaction yes
https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/interactions/api.html#discord.Interaction.namespace

[dusk pelican]

hey guys, so I am reading about application commands, and there is one with a prefix like !ping and one with a so called slash command, what for application commands you using and is better?

[woeful hill]

Prefix commands are not real commands

Application commands are slash commands and context menu

[dusk pelican]

ok got it

I think slash commands more up to date or you say prefix commands also good?

!ping or /ping

[unkempt canyon]

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

[woeful hill]

Slash commands have more advantages that prefix ones

[dusk pelican]

yeah sry example

[dusk pelican]

got it

[woeful hill]

Like autocorrect, self documented, enforcing value types

[dusk pelican]

when I write a slash command on this server the commands are described

[woeful hill]

Yes it is self documented, you don't need like a help menu to list out all the commands and their usage, discord already display them for you

[dusk pelican]

but the concept is the same, instead of a message create event discords gateway sends a interaction event to like trigger the callback?

with the discord api the slash command is just registered and linked to discord

but the actual trigger is through the gateway?

[woeful hill]

They send a interactionCreate event i think, i dont use raw api call

When the library already route the event to the right callback for you

[dusk pelican]

nice got it

[woeful hill]

Just see the example of the library, mess around, change stuffs to see how it work

[dusk pelican]

yes of course

[woeful hill]

Note that syncing have rather heavy rate limit, the example shows you a convenient way to sync on startup for example sake, you should only sync when needed

[dusk pelican]

yeah the good old rate limit on apis

[woeful hill]

If you use pycord, they have a smart way to auto sync for you

If you use others, sync when you need discord to know

[dusk pelican]

got it

[finite salmon]

pycord, by default automatically syncs for you. If you want to handle the syncing yourself, you can do that too

[fast osprey]

"Smart"

[woeful hill]

indeed very smort

[wise mica]

if youre using dpy you can do hybrid commands so your commands work with both

[dusk pelican]

mhh ok

[fast osprey]

Which comes with a host of other complications like the permissioning being opaque

[dusk pelican]

I think slash commands and its variations suits the best and is in my opnion up to date

it might be also efficient, prefix commands cause that the bot must read all messages but with slash commands the bot reads just interactions

and message content is a priviliged intent so

if anyone can understand my thoughts

and as mentioned slash commands comes with autocomplete desccription ......

correct me if I am wrong, I am open to feedback

[wise mica]

Yea there's no right or wrong selection. I would generally say that bots that need frequent usage like economy bots are better off using prefix commands and bots that don't require frequent command usage may be better off with slash

Both is nice for me because it offers the user the choice

[dusk pelican]

right, but what is the point solsticeshard mentioned, if anyone can explain? You are right, the user can choose between prefix or slash

[young dagger]

Useful command?

[dusk pelican]

uffff

as long as you have fun

[burnt quiver]

^ real

[wise mica]

I like it, I didn't know discord messages could be differentiated down to milliseconds

[young dagger]

The idea is to find a way to validate messages as moderation evidence, when messages are fabricated

Example if you copied a message from 13:12 and edited the HTML to show 13:25 and then provided that message ID, we could see that something is not right

[dusk pelican]

I need a visual example

[quick gust]

How do you get the message IDs?

[young dagger]

Well, if you are not into moderation it's not really an issue for you

[young dagger]

From the user

[quick gust]

Ah, valid

[wise mica]

What would the second ID be? If you fabricate a message what would you link to?

[young dagger]

Second ID could be used as any reference (even the message where the command was revoked from)

message ID 2 is optional

[quick gust]

Why do you even need to compare then
To see if the timing of any message is fabricated or not, you can just see when that message was created_at?

[fast osprey]

Slash commands and prefix commands have entirely different permissioning systems. There's no purpose in publishing a command twice in two different systems

[wise mica]

The purpose of giving the user a choice, no?

[fast osprey]

People can just learn to use the correct system

[dusk pelican]

got it

[wise mica]

[young dagger]

Real timestamp is 15:05 for me

[dusk pelican]

cool, but NSFW is not good

you using an api for that

[quick gust]

Sorry I didn't understand your point

[wise mica]

What's a real timestamp?

[young dagger]

I edited the message to say it's 15:12, but in reality, it's from 15:05. If you provide the message ID, I could easily confirm that the screenshot was manipulated

[dusk pelican]

no thanks

[quick gust]

Yes so you just need one message ID and check when it was created_at
You don't need to know the time difference between anything

[young dagger]

I guess. I thought why not just use both

(could maybe be used for other cases I don’t know yet)

[wise mica]

Because with a second ID you're having to do maths and inevitably someone is going to fuck up their maths

[quick gust]

I doubt
I'd much rather just have a command that checks when (a) message(s) was/were created and if I really wanna compare the timings of two IDs then I can just compare the created_ats with my eyes

[young dagger]

Right, I might actually add that as an additional command

Thanks for the feedback

[wise mica]

Probably also worth noting that most edits are not done through HTML but just image editing

[tender bobcat]

Not sure if you have done this, but you should detect the channel(whether it's nsfw channel or not), and restrict the nsfw option in non-nsfw channel

[wise mica]

Where it's fairly common for people just to fuck up the message alignment

[tender bobcat]

Nice

[woeful hill]

a features that spit out feature ideas

[tender bobcat]

a command to delete the source code and maybe on GitHub, then initiate disk wipe and shutdown itself

[quick gust]

"interesting" is subjective

[tender bobcat]

also delete the db

[young dagger]

@quick gust @wise mica What time format would you use to show when the message was created?

[quick gust]

long date time

[wise mica]

One of those discord time stamps so people dont get confused converting to their timezone

[fast osprey]

asking people besides trained server admins to get message ids is pretty cumbersome. If this was something you found useful, I'd suggest presenting this as a message context menu you run twice instead

[quick gust]

or... Just ask for the message link and strip the ID yourself

[tender bobcat]

But the perspective also matters, normal discord user probably also don't care how many seconds difference between 2 message, just roughly

Like about 5 mins, about 2 and a half day etc.

[fast osprey]

I mean I have a hard time seeing why anyone would care how far apart messages are beyond the day or minute even

[tender bobcat]

I would sometimes

[fast osprey]

[finite salmon]

you should pass nsfw=True in your command decorator (or group) instead of manually checking if it's an nsfw channel or not

that way the command wont even show up in non-nsfw channels

im pretty sure its not legal to make nsfw commands which dont mark themselves as nsfw

[finite salmon]

you should probably separate the nsfw and sfw into separate commands and mark the nsfw one to discord respectively

[tender bobcat]

I don't see how a country make a law on whether it is required to mark a flag on a proprietary system in a proprietary social network

[quick gust]

lol they probably meant it's not allowed in the developer policy

[last cradle]

wassssssup

how to do hyperlinks in titles i forgot

[stark ingot]

I assume you mean embed titles. You have to set the URL parameter of the embed