cause i have this on and its still not exporting the member data https://i.imgur.com/0g8jrDE.png
#development
tardy dove
earnest phoenix
like an extension
solemn latch
I would think the nodejs dev team would handle that
earnest phoenix
actually exactly like an extension
how do you make extensions
ill look it up
@solemn latch could u help me with my time issue
solemn latch
lmk what you come up with. I currently dont think its possible
earnest phoenix
u said in a min
sudden geyser
Cthulhu, I don't think you understand. Intents.default() does not enable presence or member data. You won't get it unless you enable it through your source code, not the toggleable buttons on the dashboard.
For example, discord.Intents(members=True) would enable member data.
earnest phoenix
msg.author.send(`\n> Byte Memory Usage: ${process.memoryUsage().heapUsed}\n> Bot Uptime:\n> Seconds: [${Math.floor(bot.uptime/1000)}]\n> Minutes: [${Math.floor(bot.uptime/1000/60)}]\n> Hours: [${Math.floor(bot.uptime/1000/60/60)}]\n> Days: [${Math.floor(bot.uptime/1000/60/60/24)}]`);```alright so i got this
and I want the values to reset
after they reach the max
so seconds 60, minutes 60, hours 24, and days can go on
grizzled raven
@earnest phoenix how bad? cause i have no choice but to do that until i finish rewriting my bot
sudden geyser
@earnest phoenix use the modulo operator
livid lichen
const MutedRole = msg.guild.roles.catch.get(MutedRole => MutedRole.Name === "Muted"); (node:7588) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: TypeError: Cannot read property 'get' of undefined
earnest phoenix
what scale are you planning on using it on @grizzled raven
grizzled raven
wdym? i'm just gonna have 2 clusters meaning 2 connections
earnest phoenix
@sudden geyser how would i use it
livid lichen
Anyone know what I am doing wrong?
earnest phoenix
no no like, at what scale, how many guilds / queries a second (or a minute)
sudden geyser
Like, bot.uptime / 1000 / 60 % 60 would make it wrap around so it never goes above 60
If I have 53 and do 53 % 5, it wraps back to 3.
grizzled raven
yeah i'm screwed
earnest phoenix
not just clamp
sudden geyser
and that's what the modulo operator will do? I don't understand
earnest phoenix
sqlite starts choking at around 150 guilds normally using the bot on exponential growth
grizzled raven
i think i'll just keep my bot offline for a few weeks
earnest phoenix
@sudden geyser ok ill look into it
grizzled raven
might just give up i don't even know tbh
earnest phoenix
i realized a long time ago that public bot development is not worth it lol
maybe only for the experience
grizzled raven
i'm happy with what im making, although it's one of my first ever coding projects, hence why it's a mess
sudden geyser
const MutedRole = msg.guild.roles.catch.get(MutedRole => MutedRole.Name === "Muted");(node:7588) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: TypeError: Cannot read property 'get' of undefined
@livid lichen there's no property called.catchonRoleManager: https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/RoleManager
To go along with that, .get (which will likely be used on a Collection) does not take a function. You're most likely looking for .find
To add even more fuel to the flames, .Name is not a property on a Role
earnest phoenix
granted, if you're out of education and are looking for a job, a big bot can be your entry to one
boreal iron
Mistakes? You mean happy little accidents :bob_ross_emoji_doesnt_exist_here:
earnest phoenix
i know a guy who mentioned statistics of his large bot on his CV and that got him the job 
wicked pine
Abi guys solve the problem of the botuptime the right to slow orders
livid lichen
@livid lichen there's no property called
.catchonRoleManager: https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/RoleManagerTo go along with that,
.get(which will likely be used on aCollection) does not take a function. You're most likely looking for.findTo add even more fuel to the flames,
.Nameis not a property on aRole
@sudden geyser I used.findbut it caused an error once again. Would you like me to say the error?
sudden geyser
did you fix the first one
livid lichen
Yeah, thanks.
drifting wedge
How would I get text from a text box and show it in live time in like a body tag html
sudden geyser
then swapping .get for .find should also work
cerulean mason
Hı
livid lichen
TypeError: msg.guild.roles.find is not a function @sudden geyser.
sudden geyser
You didn't fix the first issue. You just removed it.
.catch is not a property, and a manager does not hold the collection of data. On the docs, the .cache property has the actual data (a collection of roles).
livid lichen
@sudden geyser So I should include .catch in the roles part?
earnest phoenix
msg.author.send(`**${'\\*'.repeat(75)}**\n> Byte Memory Usage: ${process.memoryUsage().heapUsed}\n> Bot Uptime:\n> Seconds: [${Math.floor(bot.uptime/1000) % Math.floor(bot.uptime/1000)}]\n> Minutes: [${Math.floor(bot.uptime/1000/60) % Math.floor(bot.uptime/1000/60)}]\n> Hours: [${Math.floor(bot.uptime/1000/60/60)}]\n> Days: [${Math.floor(bot.uptime/1000/60/60/24)}]**${'\\*'.repeat(75)}**`);
sudden geyser
No, I said you should change it.
livid lichen
No, I said you should change it.
@sudden geyser What should I change it to though?
earnest phoenix
@sudden geyser ur method didnt work
sudden geyser
@livid lichen like I said,
.catchis not a property, and a manager does not hold the collection of data. On the docs, the.cacheproperty has the actual data (a collection of roles).
So, you should change it to .cache
@earnest phoenix because you didn't use it correctly. bot.uptime / 1000 % 60 would (hopefully) work in this situation.
livid lichen
Oh my. How stupid can I get for thinking .catch and .cache is the same thing. I thank you, but I am left with one final question; Should I put .cache before or after .roles?
sudden geyser
.roles is an instance of RoleManager, and .cache only exists on managers. So, no, you'd put .cache after .roles
It's easier to understand the order and how to access your properties and call your methods when you learn the principals of object-oriented programming.
livid lichen
Understood. I highly appreciate your help @sudden geyser.
static oyster
God wondering does anyone know how to fix arbitrary file overwrite for fstream and unzip packages, they're both fully up to date
gaunt atlas
I am making a music vid. if u wanna porticipate pls DM me (u need roblox) more info later
solemn latch
not really development related but okay
snow urchin
why is user.send returning "The user aborted a request" error for me?
opal plank
multiple reasons
bad internet
being the most likley of them
or the script halting
for whatever reason
snow urchin
it happens locally and on a vps with 10 gig up down
opal plank
iirc its when something takes more than 15 seconds to finish
dont quote me on that though, i forgot the actual numbers
static oyster
God wondering does anyone know how to fix arbitrary file overwrite for fstream and unzip packages, they're both fully up to date
snow urchin
HTTPError [AbortError]: The user aborted a request.
at RequestHandler.execute (/home/PreMiD/Discord-Bot/node_modules/discord.js/src/rest/RequestHandler.js:107:21)
at runMicrotasks (<anonymous>)
at processTicksAndRejections (internal/process/task_queues.js:93:5) {
code: 500,
method: 'post',
path: '/channels/745960754875727883/messages'
}
...
earnest phoenix
5xx errors aren't your fault and you can't do anything about them, they're server side errors
snow urchin
Well.... discord can't just stop our bot from being able to send dms
quartz kindle
they can lol
opal plank
more into that here if you want https://discord.com/developers/docs/topics/opcodes-and-status-codes#http-http-response-codes
snow urchin
ok yes they can, but why LOL
earnest phoenix
ok i feel like it's discord having a stroke because did yall see the delay on that embed
opal plank
sweats in mass dm
quartz kindle
when is discord not having a stroke
snow urchin
nice one
opal plank
@quartz kindle i have the answer for that
snow urchin
Yes, PreMiD bot mass dms!111!!!!11!
quartz kindle
having a stroke and dead from a stroke
opal plank
Full downage
Having Stroke
im fairly certain downage is a thing, even though it should be outage
snow urchin
maybe its the code because it doesnt work on our test bot too haha
blissful coral
What does a 502 Bad Gateway error usually come from in code
earnest phoenix
you misconfigured your http server
livid lichen
TypeError: Cannot read property 'roles' of undefinedif (UserToMute.Member.roles.has(MutedRole.id)){
Didn't work.
earnest phoenix
is your UserToMute a user object
livid lichen
const UserToMute = msg.guild.member(msg.mentions.users.first()) || msg.guild.members.cache.get(Arguments[0]);
livid lichen
My oh my. I have -10 brain cells :/
earnest phoenix
it happens to the best of us
livid lichen
Lol
@earnest phoenix Different error. TypeError: UserToMute.roles.has is not a function.
earnest phoenix
i'm guessing you're using djs v12
earnest phoenix
yup
livid lichen
Frick
welp
Bot.muted[UserToMute.id] = {
guild: msg.guild.id,
time: Date.now() + parseInt(Arguments[1]) * 100
};
TypeError: Cannot set property '687735736384225288' of undefined
quartz kindle
Bot.muted is undefined
livid lichen
Oh.
earnest phoenix
what happens if you hit the endpoint manually
blissful coral
Ummm
Let's see
const app = express().use(bodyParser.json()); // creates http server
app.listen(8080, () => console.log('Listening'));
const fs = require('fs');
let jsonData = require('./list.json');
console.log(jsonData.id1); //{warnings: 1}
let id2 = {
"warnings":1
};
let data = JSON.stringify(id2);
fs.writeFileSync('list.json', data);
console.log(jsonData.id1); //{warnings: 1}
console.log(jsonData.id2); //undefined```im trying to learn how to do data stores
but id2 is "undefined" when called
why is that?
quartz kindle
jsonData is a variable containing list.json
then you overwrite list.json with data
this doesnt affect the jsonData variable
blissful coral
plz
earnest phoenix
then what do i use
quartz kindle
i mean
blissful coral
anything but json
quartz kindle
let him experiment
umbral zealot
sqlite, nedb, kev
blissful coral
it is prone to corruption
unique nimbus
It corrupts
umbral zealot
Why shouldn’t I use a JSON file as a database?
A JSON file is not suitable for use as a database for several reasons.
Firstly, you will incur a major performance hit as you need to read from and write to the file on each query and modification. This brings a major performance impact especially when the amount of data increases.
Second, you cannot concurrently write to a JSON file - only one write can be performed at a time. This is part of what causes the performance impact, but perhaps more importantly may introduce unexpected results and even file corruption.
JSON files are also human readable and easily accessible by end users. This means that your database and application will be vulnerable to attacks, especially as database reads are rarely checked for malicious code (Which usually happens on write).
What should I use instead?
An actual database, to put it bluntly. SQL, NoSQL, whatever takes your fancy. Some SQL databases are SQLite, PostgreSQL and MariaDB, while NoSQL databases include things like MongoDB, RethinkDB, ArangoDB and many more. If you want the easy way out, check out Enmap.
What can I use a JSON file for?
JSON files are best used to store static data, in other words data that doesn’t need to change often or programmatically. In practice, this means configuration and other application data that needs to be defined by a human - which is what JSON excels at.
jsondb jsonisnotdb jsonisnotadb dbjson nojson
unique nimbus
@quartz kindle Please sir, why is my database corrupted, I use txt files
quartz kindle
it doesnt corrupt out of nowhere, it just doesnt have all the protections that regular databases have
unique nimbus
yea
quartz kindle
so it requires a lot of extra care to do it right
blissful coral
const app = express().use(bodyParser.json());
app.listen(8080, () => console.log('Listening'));
Anyone know?
blissful coral
hmmm
unique nimbus
is port 8080 open
umbral zealot
Is it on the same machine
blissful coral
No
umbral zealot
and not in some weird-ass docker setup?
blissful coral
using ngrok
Basically creates a domain and then sends whatever it gets to the localhost port you give it
umbral zealot
no I'm asking if ngrok is running on the same machine as the express server.
umbral zealot
And neither of them are in any sort of VM or docker or anything?
umbral zealot
does it log listening in the console?
blissful coral
Yes
earnest phoenix
var con = mysql.createConnection({
host: "localhost",
user: "yourusername",
password: "yourpassword",
database: "mydb"
});```i dont understand how you use these parameters
like
is it just whatever i want
or does it want my ip
or something
blissful coral
const mysql = require("mysql");
const pool = mysql.createPool({
host: 'localhost',
user: 'root',
password: 'yourpassword',
database: 'yourdatabase',
charset: 'utf8mb4'
})
module.exports = pool
Make a external file
and make a pool instead
quartz kindle
mysql is a fully featured database server, you need to install and run mysql separately. that code is only for connecting to a mysql server
@earnest phoenix
blissful coral
Then just call that file with a constant and go from there
@umbral zealot Whatcha thinking?
earnest phoenix
so then how do i make a mysql server
blissful coral
Does ngrok.exe have to run in the same file directory as the bot?
umbral zealot
my question is
umbral zealot
where is this log here
Because that particular log indicates the express server is started.
blissful coral
I changed it from listening to that.
umbral zealot
hmm
blissful coral
umbral zealot
Ok let's try something, can you try running wget http://localhost:8080/ on your vps?
earnest phoenix
me?
umbral zealot
then it's not running on that machine.
earnest phoenix
and how do i edit that pool
blissful coral
sqllite is easy to learn
umbral zealot
@earnest phoenix if you want the dead-simple solution, https://enmap.evie.dev/ is what you want
earnest phoenix
something that u do in js itself
umbral zealot
Enmap is bae, it's what you want.
earnest phoenix
is it reliable
blissful coral
Alright we gon try this evie
umbral zealot
Disclaimer: I wrote it, I'm biased, but 1.3 million downloads don't lie.
blissful coral
Moving ngrok to my bot directory
umbral zealot
No I don't think this is a directory problem
blissful coral
Only thing it can be
umbral zealot
I think the server is either not running on that port or it's shutting down right away
blissful coral
ngrok is in my bin of the VPS and the bot is in the root
Is there a listener for when it shuts down
umbral zealot
yeah but this isn't to do with ngrok
you literally just did a localhost ping and it fails
Nothing is running on that machine on port 8080
umbral zealot
I'm not sure, I've never had an express server needing to dhut down
blissful coral
Something to do with the vps because when I do it locally on my pc it works fine
umbral zealot
@earnest phoenix yo read https://enmap.evie.dev/install#pre-requisites Very carefully
you missed the entire first part of this.
earnest phoenix
npm i -g --add-python-to-path --vs2015 --production windows-build-tools
im not using python
im using js
umbral zealot
you are
earnest phoenix
im using js
umbral zealot
just... follow the damn instructions
umbral zealot
python is necessary to build the better-sqlite3 binaries.
earnest phoenix
but what do i put there?
earnest phoenix
im not using python
umbral zealot
Literally. READ. THE. INSTRUCTIONS
blissful coral
You do not understand how making these works
umbral zealot
why is it so goddamn hard.
blissful coral
Not every js lib is made in JS
They are made in python, ts, js, c# and a lot of others
earnest phoenix
bruh this is hard to understand ill just learn sql
umbral zealot
python is necessary to build the better-sqlite3 binaries.
blissful coral
This one uses python
earnest phoenix
atleast sql can be downloaded in 1 line and i dont need to install 10000 things
umbral zealot
mysql will require you to install and configure a mysql server.
earnest phoenix
ok then ill do sql lite
umbral zealot
SQLite will require you to build the binaries. With python and the C++ build tools
solemn latch
databases are work
earnest phoenix
then ill just use json
earnest phoenix
if json is unreliable then why is it literally built into discord.js
umbral zealot
Then you'll lose data, like a moron. Fine, have fun with it, I'm not going to help you load the shotgun you're going to shoot yourself in the foot with.
It's not.
solemn latch
a decent json storage is more complex than any proper database.
blissful coral
@umbral zealot HOW DO I RESTORE MY JSON DATABASE IT CORRUPTED!!!
umbral zealot
discord.js does not save data in json files
blissful coral
Oh my god
umbral zealot
first, that's not discord.js, that's nodejs doing it
blissful coral
You do know that package json files are not discord js?
solemn latch
package files are not dynamic storage.
earnest phoenix
even better
blissful coral
umbral zealot
second, it's not a database, it's literally a package configuration file
blissful coral
Dude please learn exactly what you are talking about before you attempt to argue with the ones who know what they are doing
solemn latch
they dont handle thousands of changes an hour
umbral zealot
Alright dude, you're clearly stubborn and arrogant and know better, I bow down to your Dunning Krueger god, Have Fun.
umbral zealot
Not like I've been working with javascript for 20 years.
solemn latch
static json files are not the same as dynamically editing them
earnest phoenix
ur not 30+
blissful coral
Wanna know what is in it?
Info about discord.js and its dependencies
and nor are you
umbral zealot
I'm almost 40 years old, I've been doing javascript longer than you've been alive, and I'm telling you do not use json as a database
umbral zealot
Don't be a little pest and listen when the adults tell you to do something.
earnest phoenix
ok so if someone said "i jumped in a volcano and lived" i cant argue with that
because i havent done it myself
got it
umbral zealot
It takes all of 5 minutes to run the commands required to use sqlite.
You are literally given the exact step by step instructions to make it work
It's not hard, at this point you don't even need to think about it you just need to follow instructions.
earnest phoenix
ok ill run that
umbral zealot
you literaly just follow, to the letter
blissful coral
Your working on installing a database while we are the ones making the databases and creating the stuff that makes the stuff you use work.
We are the ones who keep guides up to date and make sure there are no errors in them
No need to try and argue with us
earnest phoenix
bruh u didnt make enmap
umbral zealot
I did.
earnest phoenix
no u didnt
earnest phoenix
yes you did
We are the ones who keep guides up to date and make sure there are no errors in them
@blissful coral
umbral zealot
I am literally, the author of enmap
blissful coral
Never said I made enmap
earnest phoenix
you said we
blissful coral
I am making another database rn
earnest phoenix
which explicitly implies it
umbral zealot
What they said is that we are the ones with the knowledge, you're not, and you should really learn to listen to people that are more knowledgeable.
blissful coral
Jesus why do people argue with us when we know what we are talking about evie
I don't get it sometimes
umbral zealot
especially when they're actually asking for help and we're working hard to help them
it's infuriating.
I rarely lose my cool these days, but Tylers... man, they're the exception.
umbral zealot
Man I ain't sus, aight? 😂
blissful coral
Also, evie I figured out the problem for some reason when I put it into the bin it was not actually turning into a command so it was making me do it through a file in the root that wasn't the bot file which was making it not run on the bot for some reason and was not recognizing it
I do not know why it did that at all I am gonna reach out to ngrok and galaxygate about it
earnest phoenix
ok ill try to download the thing
blissful coral
Prob should go with a dockerfile tbh
umbral zealot
"put it in the bin"... 
solemn latch
its kinda nice knowing the people who make libs.
quartz kindle
recycle bin
opal plank
am i the only one who doesnt use docker even though i know how to use it?
quartz kindle
why do you need ngrok tho? trying to hide your ip?
blissful coral
I never understand why it doesn't work and I never understand why it starts working
solemn latch
i dont know how to docker
blissful coral
@quartz kindle until I get a domain
I am currently testing so haven't set any of that up yet
quartz kindle
ye but you can just use your ip
opal plank
just use localhost 
hiding ip 101
quartz kindle
xD
opal plank
@sly wing report to a mod, not here
opal plank
i think they got kicked
opal plank
nope, they simply left
earnest phoenix
@umbral zealot i can only find c++ for visual studio 2017
blissful coral
Alright now that I switch to my IP IT WORKS
earnest phoenix
not vsc
opal plank
oh they back
blissful coral
Holy
earnest phoenix
whos back
blissful coral
Guys...
blissful coral
Whos gonna tell him...
opal plank
wasnt talking about you
earnest phoenix
i thought u said u gave up
go bother another js beginner trying to learn how to do a database
earnest phoenix
you're bugging me
opal plank
dude can you just chill the f out?
blissful coral
You should know though that installing a lib isnt installing something to vsc tho
opal plank
from everything ive seen in chat you've been nothing but toxic this whole time
umbral zealot
you don't need to find anything you just need to run the commands as indicated
earnest phoenix
Visual Studio C++ Build Tools
blissful coral
^
earnest phoenix
his installation literally says visual studio
sly wing
im gay
earnest phoenix
c++
blissful coral
@sly wing Nice
quartz kindle
@earnest phoenix you just need build tools
umbral zealot
Yes, it needs the build tools and python which are installed globally with the commands indicated.
earnest phoenix
from everything ive seen in chat you've been nothing but toxic this whole time
@opal plank im being toxic because i started out just asking how to make a data base then they started being an asshole by being ignorant to the fact im new to js and i probably dont know how to do a database
umbral zealot
literally
blissful coral
Doesn't mean you get toxic.
earnest phoenix
it gave me errors
umbral zealot
ok so what errors is it giving you
quartz kindle
what errors
blissful coral
Then show the error stack
earnest phoenix
quartz kindle
if something gives you errors, it doesnt mean you should give up, it means you should solve the errors lol
opal plank
replying toxicity with toxicity doesnt lead anywhere, be the better person and be courteous pls @earnest phoenix
quartz kindle
@earnest phoenix
quartz kindle
blissful coral
Like the site says
earnest phoenix
powershell vs admin shell
umbral zealot
blissful coral
The difference is obvious, one doesn't work the other does
opal plank
or powershell
umbral zealot
Yes. Command Prompt or PowerShell
opal plank
they're both terminals
blissful coral
Please read what it says fully and trust me, it will work.
umbral zealot
those are 2 different things and they do the same in the end for this purpose
blissful coral
Kind of how they work
quartz kindle
doesnt matter which one you use, as long as its in administrator mode
opal plank
^^
blissful coral
If it doesn't have admin it is useless in this case
opal plank
though im a powershell supremacist too
blissful coral
umbral zealot
At this point I even use the Terminal app
quartz kindle
i just use shift+rightclick open cmd here
opal plank
putty
quartz kindle
terminus
opal plank
or openssh
earnest phoenix
ive been duing lua for 2 years and it is nothing like js so alot of these concepts i am 100% new too
blissful coral
Been lookin for a better option
quartz kindle
ever tried luvit? @earnest phoenix
earnest phoenix
i did
umbral zealot
I just connect to my VPS directly from vscode lol
quartz kindle
node.js is very similar to luvit
blissful coral
I should try that ngl
earnest phoenix
i would rather learn from js
blissful coral
Never tried it
earnest phoenix
quartz kindle
@umbral zealot this
@opal plank this when saving/uploading files
earnest phoenix
@umbral zealot does this mean it finished or its still downloading
blissful coral
read the end of it...
opal plank
bruh using remote vsc ssh is a bliss
umbral zealot
just wait until it ends and goes back to the normal prompt
it may take a few minutes
earnest phoenix
usually u get a stack end message when the download is done @blissful coral
blissful coral
Yeah you right
opal plank
never again will i have to edit local configs with fucking Nano again in that crap @quartz kindle
quartz kindle
who uses nano
opal plank
i have wet dreams just thinking about not having to use nano anymore
blissful coral
LMAO
earnest phoenix
does notepad corrupt
blissful coral
??
earnest phoenix
txt files
blissful coral
.txt??
earnest phoenix
yes
blissful coral
earnest phoenix
apparently json does
opal plank
notepad is an editor
quartz kindle
only if you use it wrong
blissful coral
Are you attempting to use .txt as a database
opal plank
json is the actual file
earnest phoenix
maybe
hushed axle
how do I connect to ubuntu vps
blissful coral
yeah not really a good idea
umbral zealot
No, the point of JSON's corruption is when you do a lot of reading and writing, it's got nothing to do with editing it once
blissful coral
@hushed axle A SSH client
opal plank
i'd highly recommend using an ACTUAL database
blissful coral
please
hushed axle
Can you show me how
opal plank
not a txt or json file
earnest phoenix
this download is slowing down my houses wifi everyone is mad at me lol
quartz kindle
my bot used to have a json database until like 1500 servers
umbral zealot
It's also not limited to JSON files - it can happen with any file that you try to read and write a lot to.
opal plank
unless you doing it for experience, dont fuck with that crap
hushed axle
It my first time using the ubuntu
blissful coral
Just install PuTTy @hushed axle
opal plank
it aint that simple
putty is just the client
you need to register ssh keys in the host too
opal plank
which requires a fair bit of linux knownledge
hushed axle
How
opal plank
trust me, ask your provider
quartz kindle
trust me, im an engineer
opal plank
teaching someone how to setup ssh keys is NOT an easy task
blissful coral
trust me, I am smart
faint prism
yeah not really a good idea
@blissful coral SSH
blissful coral
opal plank
specially with 0 knowledge beforehand
hushed axle
I buy in Vultr
faint prism
Whoops wrong quote
blissful coral
lulw
quartz kindle
many vps providers have options to setup SSH keys in their control panels
opal plank
you need to generate a token and then add it locally
earnest phoenix
my wifi download is 10 mbps would a rasberry pi 3 hog the internet?
quartz kindle
depends on what it does
faint prism
my wifi is 10 mbps would a rasberry pi 3 hog the internet?
@earnest phoenix depends on what you're doing with it
faint prism
Depends on the bot
opal plank
im simply downloading copious amounts of ...
tired nimbus
anyone know why when i try to publish a npm package it returns
npm ERR! code E403
npm ERR! 403 Forbidden - PUT https://registry.npmjs.org/loomdatasimulator - Forbidden
opal plank
no one laughed at my joke, feels bad
blissful coral
it was chillin when discord had a message problem
faint prism
I don't get it
umbral zealot
@tired nimbus is your package perhaps in a namespace like @thing/packagename ?
quartz kindle
i had to hover over it and check the file name @opal plank lmfao
opal plank
what is that pic auger?
quartz kindle
hen tie
opal plank
^^
faint prism
Oooh
tired nimbus
yes I already navigated to the directory
tired nimbus
no its not
lavish flint
lol
blissful coral
that tbh
umbral zealot
and you've run npm login to get your proper npm username and password setup?
tired nimbus
yes
paper perch
Anyone want to play among us
quartz kindle
you have to wait until it says ALL DONE
umbral zealot
I've seen it take over 25 minutes
solemn latch
i need more redists
umbral zealot
so yeah be patient
tired nimbus
oh it could be because I used my alt email
solemn latch
missing 2011
umbral zealot
@earnest phoenix take that time to read the rest of the enmap docs, it'll be helpful real soon 🙂
quartz kindle
is there even a 2011 redist?
solemn latch
no idea
tired nimbus
yes now it has installed thank you
quartz kindle
@umbral zealot ever tried replacing discord.js collections with enmaps? xD
umbral zealot
That would be possible only if I added back a couple features that I've removed
like sort() and first()
umbral zealot
Actualy it wouldn't, tim, if I just added those features back lol
earnest phoenix
@umbral zealot so did u write the bot in c++ or python
quartz kindle
no i mean
earnest phoenix
Not bot
umbral zealot
@earnest phoenix no, I didn't write in either of those. I'm using better-sqlite which was
hushed axle
how do I put my password in the putty it doesn't let me write on it
umbral zealot
enmap doesn't use the build tools, it just uses something that does.
blissful coral
lul
pale vessel
:teridynono: how do I put my password in the putty it doesn't let me write on it
@hushed axle lmao
hushed axle
sorry it my first time using this 😦
quartz kindle
djs collections hold classes with specific prototypes, one would need to detect the class that it holds, and parse it correctly so it only saves the actual data to disk, and rebuilds the class when getting the data from the disk
pale vessel
wait what are you being serious
opal plank
:teridynono: how do I put my password in the putty it doesn't let me write on it
@hushed axle you only put password on the putty agent
hushed axle
who :/ ? me?
pale vessel
yes
hushed axle
yes 😦
opal plank
dont put password on putty
quartz kindle
SSH clients dont show the password when you type it, but it does work
opal plank
just add the key on puttyagent
umbral zealot
@quartz kindle what about just overwriting the import since d.js collections are now a separate library?
pale vessel
what tim said
umbral zealot
ezpz
opal plank
quartz kindle
@umbral zealot i mean, replacing djs's internal caches
so when you do client.guilds.cache.get(id) it gets from disk, nor from memory
umbral zealot
yeah I know, but d.js internal caches are @discordjs/collection so replacing them would be fairly easy
quartz kindle
yes, but they hold classes
umbral zealot
so does enmap
quartz kindle
you need to parse them and rebuild them
umbral zealot
Enmap has a serializer/deserializer feature
umbral zealot
I've saved "discord.js classes" like that, by simply serializing it as an ID
agile shuttle
somebbody can help me
blissful coral
const embed = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
.setTitle(`Hi`)
message.channel.send(embed)```that only??
earnest phoenix
I’m making a warnings system, a data base wold be appropriate right?
hushed axle
so when I open the putty I but the IP addres right?
umbral zealot
Doesn't need to, since all you need is to serialize as data => data.id and deserialize as data => client.<thing>.cache.get(data)
agile shuttle
how i make a embed
@agile shuttle how??
quartz kindle
not sure we're not the same page here lmao
quartz kindle
or at least im not following
agile shuttle
yes
umbral zealot
@agile shuttle here: https://anidiots.guide/first-bot/using-embeds-in-messages
earnest phoenix
bro yall need to understand not everyone will learn and understand something the same way you do
Just sayin
umbral zealot
@earnest phoenix https://enmap.evie.dev/complete-examples/moderation-action-logs here.
blissful coral
We give you what to learn and what we know
If you need more info look it up on MDN
umbral zealot
@quartz kindle what I mean by this is that this is my config for my client settings, in which I can store roles and users and all that jazz: https://text.evie.codes/hucuvuvemu.js
earnest phoenix
We don't speak beginner
@blissful coral that’s the problem. You think someone who’s just learning embeds is going to understand you’re way of talking?
umbral zealot
It's perfectly viable to replace a discord.js collection
blissful coral
I mean it was pretty simple
I give him the const to use
which is embed
as a example
I then show him to start a constructor with new
umbral zealot
@earnest phoenix dude you've already shown you're a hard, toxic client to please, don't start trying to whine about how we help others, it's not useful to your cause.
blissful coral
and then tell him to use the Discord lib and call the MessageEmbed constructor
Please do not tell us how to help other people
We aren't new to helping we know the best ways to help others
And it isn't by feeding them every single damn thing
umbral zealot
We have no manager, Karen, so we don't have to please you or anyone. We do our best to help. So just shush and let us do what we can.
goddamn tylers.
earnest phoenix
I don’t normally get this “toxic” as u call it. It’s just that you need to learn I’m new, and you shouldn’t be mocking my ideas because of it, it makes me annoyed
umbral zealot
You and ten thousand other "new" developers
You're not the first tyler we've had to deal with, you won't be the last.
blissful coral
You and the other 100s that are into coding due to covid or other reasons
earnest phoenix
Not true
blissful coral
or other reasons
umbral zealot
lol Covid has nothign to do with it, plenty of teens wanting to just learn JS or just shoveling code because they "just want a bot"
earnest phoenix
Way before COVID
and no
It’s because I would like to learn JavaScript
So I figured why not learn it an interactive way
solemn latch
one thing i think you have to understand is its really frustrating to try and teach concepts when people dont know the words for the concepts needed to know these other concepts.
blissful coral
And you are learning it for other reasons then
earnest phoenix
By making a bot
solemn latch
all code is interactive.
umbral zealot
@earnest phoenix point is buddy, you're coming through as very arrogant and entitled. You might have to re-adjust your behaviour when trying to receive help from others
blissful coral
You learn by doing
Also I suggest taking the time to learn all the basic concepts of js because we are using those along with our js knowledge to help you
earnest phoenix
You’re the one mocking my methods because I don’t know any better, if anyone you’re acting entitled
hushed axle
😦 can anyone help me how to connect to putty I am so confuse what to do
umbral zealot
I didn't mock your methods, I told you using JSON was wrong
umbral zealot
You might feel like he's being mocking but he's tryign to help you and you're not making it easy
umbral zealot
we're all humans and falliable, and when you piss people off, they are probably going to get pissed, y'know, as humans do.
earnest phoenix
which is mocking, you’re laughing at an idea I had
umbral zealot
Which we're allowed to.
earnest phoenix
Yes, but don’t be like “lol why u so toxic” when you’ve been doing this the entire time
umbral zealot
@hushed axle it would probably be best to ask your VPS provider for instructions on how to connect to their service.
hushed axle
They give me a link I read it and I still can not connect
umbral zealot
@earnest phoenix the reason we called you toxic is that you went full dunning-kruger and went "But this uses JSON so it must be good! 
" when we were trying to explain something, and it made us annoyed and a little bit angry. Again, we are human beings, not machines, and we're not paid to do this, so you don't get to tell us how to act or how to deal with you.
earnest phoenix
that was sarcasm, I was trying to be annoying to show how y’all have been acting
blissful coral
Why would you try to be annoying
That doesn't really motivate us to help you at all
umbral zealot
Except we hadn't been acting like you had. We were giving you information that you needed to hear.
You're in the wrong, deal with it.
earnest phoenix
Yeah I think i learned that after you sent like 30 paragraphs about how json databases are for idiots
umbral zealot
Adjust your behaviour and learn from it rather than try to police our actions and thoughts.
It was information
it never once used the word "idiots"
earnest phoenix
implied
umbral zealot
no, you implied that all on your own.
umbral zealot
That's your own personal issue, not ours.
earnest phoenix
Maybe u didn’t but I know Vibin did
solemn latch
i mean, tim has used json databases 🤷♂️
blissful coral
No I actually didn't
umbral zealot
He didn't.
solemn latch
is this argument even worth it 🤔
blissful coral
Honestly
earnest phoenix
Bruh you just deleted it didn’t you
blissful coral
Just stop
solemn latch
honestly getting to the point you should take it to dms or drop it
blissful coral
Alright fine let's ask a mod to check server logs then
This isn't even development anymore
Just stop
earnest phoenix
@umbral zealot
umbral zealot
What
blissful coral
What?
earnest phoenix
umbral zealot
lol
earnest phoenix
Then you'll lose data, like a moron. Fine, have fun with it, I'm not going to help you load the shotgun you're going to shoot yourself in the foot with.
@umbral zealot
there we go
umbral zealot
Like I said, I got angry when you started acting like a pre-teen entitled blob of toxic goo, so yeah, I said that
humble gyro
solemn latch
humble gyro
what's the issue
umbral zealot
Want some popcorn, Veld?
solemn latch
2v1 scrub fight or something
umbral zealot
Nothing just trying to explain to this guy that we're trying to help him and he's not being a good customer
Conversation was pretty done until he started telling us how to help someone else I guess
earnest phoenix
their definition of helping is mocking every bad practice
Ad misericordium or some shit
umbral zealot
oh look at the fancy big words.
solemn latch
thesaurus war GO
umbral zealot
We started off trying to help you but clearly, you don't like that. Alright.
earnest phoenix
yeah and you got all offensive because I didn’t understand sql
umbral zealot
It's alright let 's just block and move on
blissful coral
Because you couldn't download a package
solemn latch
lol
blissful coral
After we told you exactly what to do
umbral zealot
problem solved. he doesn't want our type of help
blissful coral
Exactly
quartz kindle
@umbral zealot yeah thats not what i meant
blissful coral
Conversation over
earnest phoenix
I asked for help with downloading it and u were like “lol ur so dumb stupid!!!11”
blissful coral
Conversation over
@blissful coral
umbral zealot
@quartz kindle then I'm curious because I'm pretty sure replacing djs with enmap along with a very simple serializer/deserializer would be just fine
blissful coral
A argument is still a conversation. conversation is 2 people conversing on a topic
Which we were doing
Have a good day/night
earnest phoenix
and I’m the toxic one apparently
umbral zealot
I might actually just prove it to be sure of what I'm saying 😂
blissful coral
and I’m the toxic one apparently
@earnest phoenix indeed
quartz kindle
what i mean is, completely replacing djs caches with a database. the advantage of better-sqlite3 being synchronous, one can completely replace djs's in-memory caches with a fully disk cache, meaning all your 200k cached members are stored in a better-sqlite3 instead of a colleciton in memory, and then designing a seamless interface to interact with it, likely using js proxies for example, that intercept djs managers and make them get the data from disk and rebuild it on the fly
umbral zealot
yeah I know, that's why enmap would do fine because it's a wrapper on sqlite but it's like 90% identical to discord.js collections
earnest phoenix
didn’t need to end on that smart ass response
mint thicket
umbral zealot
Or rather it has 90% of the discord.js collection methods, and they're easily re-added.
solemn latch
Outof curiosity what would be the benefit of doing something like that?
no need to request users/members/stuff
umbral zealot
Well, with the new Intents update, not everyone gets to fetch every member
so they mentioned keeping a local cache
Of course there's cache invalidation but you can definitely just fetch with certain conditions or something
¯_(ツ)_/¯
earnest phoenix
@umbral zealot does ur thing need 2015 c++ build tools?
wait
he blocked me i think
can someone else ask
solemn latch
I would bet the npm page says
quartz kindle
windows-build-tools contains everything you need to install it
spark oracle
I have a question.
Can my bot be verified without getting 75 servers??
quartz kindle
its part of the package, you dont need it tho
umbral zealot
@spark oracle no.
quartz kindle
spark oracle
Using windows 7
earnest phoenix
his thing downloaded
with no errors
so i would guess i already have it installed ?
umbral zealot
Now keep following the instructions on the page
which is CLOSE THAT WINDOW
and any open prompt you may have
worthy pine
how to i have a local cache
umbral zealot
and open a NORMAL command prompt in your project folder
worthy pine
do
umbral zealot
yes, the next command, the npm i enmap command - like the page says
earnest phoenix
yeah ik, i just didnt know if i installed it on my user or on the bot's cd itself
that took like 10 seconds what
umbral zealot
Enmap is smol
blissful coral
Something take's 10 seconds when it is small
something takes 30 minutes when it is big
earnest phoenix
ok so if im understanding this correctly
if i want to add something into the database, such as a user id and a warnings integer, i would do warningsEnmap.set(User.Id,2) // this user has 2 warnings
blissful coral
Is that from the guide
umbral zealot
You'd understand this correctly if you took the time to read the docs I painstakingly wrote over the course of the last 3 years
kthx
pale vessel
him: no
blissful coral
hushed axle
what should I put for this :< I write my password right and then they appear this
hushed axle
it doesn't appear anything :<
umbral zealot
It does, that's.. your terminal.
it's just like the command prompt, but it's on another machine completely
blissful coral
It doesn't appear a giant screen saying poof I am here!
hushed axle
😦 wait what I confuse
umbral zealot
you know what the command prompt is, right?
like the thing you go into to run your bot
hushed axle
yes :<
umbral zealot
So this is the same thing
but... on your VPS
I mean, not exactly, but it's the same concept
This is where you'll do pretty much everything related to your hosting.
it's your lifeline to the service you're getting
hushed axle
wait what 
umbral zealot
We've gotten you through your first question, "how do I connect" . you're connected now.
hushed axle
in my own computer?
blissful coral
The SSH that you are using is connecting you remotely to your server.
That SSH is a command prompt
So you are then running commands on that machine from your machine
hushed axle
it not like window server right 😦
hollow sedge
hushed axle
I download the filezilla it say connect to server lost
vocal sluice
is there a rate limit on how fast a bot can delete channels?
sage bobcat
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sudden geyser
is there a rate limit on how fast a bot can delete channels?
@vocal sluice rate limits are dynamic, so no matter what number I give you, there's no guarantee it'll change sooner or later. I recommend you set it to something reasonable in your use case.
vocal sluice
would a reasonable number say like 1 or 2 channels a second?
sage bobcat
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hasty mulch
How do I do a perm check in an if statement in Python?
sudden geyser
A permission check for what though? A user? A role? A user's permission in a channel?
sudden geyser
See Member.guild_permissions: https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Member.guild_permissions
hasty mulch
See
Member.guild_permissions: https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Member.guild_permissions
@sudden geyser So, that would beif Member.guild_permissions == True:?
sudden geyser
No.
Member should be an instance of the Member class. If you have a context object, you could do ctx.author to get the member (it's a User or Member instance so make sure you check with isinstance(...)).
guild_permissions is a class. I sent you the link because the documentation explains how to use the class. There are properties on the class to check for if some property equals another.
hasty mulch
I still don’t get how that would be an if statement
sudden geyser
In its raw form, it's not. You use the class data (in this case, checking permissions) and can use it like one.
For example: py if isinstance(ctx.author, discord.Member) and ctx.author.guild_permissions.kick_members: pass
hasty mulch
Ah, ok
earnest phoenix
How can you obfusicate? discord.js
pale vessel
it's not specifically discord.js
earnest phoenix
will any js obfusicator work?
pale vessel
ye
earnest phoenix
ok
earnest phoenix
is there a way to defusicate
that would defeat the whole point of obfusication
yeah idk
how do developers typically find out what their code is when its obfusicated?
backup file?
lusty furnace
anyone here use discord.py
bc i need help with a reaction role command i made
basically it works well and all
but when the bot restarts it doesnt work anymore and doesnt give u the role when u react
heres my code:
@client.event
async def on_raw_reaction_add(payload):
for role, msg, emoji in client.reaction_roles:
if msg.id == payload.message_id and emoji == payload.emoji.name:
await payload.member.add_roles(role)
@client.command()
async def set_reaction(ctx, role: discord.Role=None, msg: discord.Message=None, emoji=None):
if role != None and msg != None and emoji != None:
await msg.add_reaction(emoji)
client.reaction_roles.append((role, msg, emoji))
else:
await ctx.send("Invalid arguements.")```
slender thistle
Because your reaction roles get lost as a result of solely relying on cache
sage bobcat
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slender thistle
There's no persistent data storage that you are performing, which would be using a database
sage bobcat
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earnest phoenix
is that necessary for discord bot code
can bot source be accessed from a client without being distributed by someone else?
sage bobcat
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slender thistle
Your code doesn't get exposed from mere connections to the Discord API and/or operating
sage bobcat
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sage bobcat
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earnest phoenix
for instance a bot message that only appears for 1 client
sage bobcat
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earnest phoenix
like
sage bobcat
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