development

[silver dust]

i was making a logger bot

but then it gave this error:

UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: TypeError: client.channels.get is not a function

this is the error

[opal plank]

cache

[solemn latch]

djs 12 uses channel managers

[opal plank]

use cache to use get()

[silver dust]

oh alright

[opal plank]

can VSC do multiple workspaces in the same window?

[nocturne grove]

Okay I have a weird issue and I hope one of you can solve it. I think the problem gets clear when I explain it.
First situation:
bot: js const role = guild.roles.cache.get('id'); role.d = 'hi';
console.log(role); => role.d returns 'hi'
eval: guild.roles.cache.get('id').d => undefined

Second situation: (after restart)
eval: guild.roles.cache.get('id').d = 'hi';
eval: guild.roles.cache.get('id').d; => returns 'hi'

Why does it work if I add the property through eval and it doesn't work when the bot does it?
can anyone help me with this one? I get it's a weird thing though.

[silver dust]

UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: ReferenceError: message is not defined

now it gave this error

im a beginner

[solemn latch]

message can only be used in the scope it was defined

if you havent defined it, it wont be defined

[opal plank]

^^

role D?

not role ID?

[nocturne grove]

just to check things out

[crimson vapor]

is role.d a property?

[nocturne grove]

I want to make <role>.new_members which is an array, but I've simplified the solution (and also tested the simplified solution)

[opal plank]

?

i dont see d as a property from roleManager

[crimson vapor]

.cache.get() returns a role

not a role manager

[nocturne grove]

no it's a property I'm adding myself

[crimson vapor]

that will not work

[solemn latch]

youd want to extend roles

to have d

[crimson vapor]

Erwin, its guild.roles.cache.get() not guild.roles.get()

[solemn latch]

i still dont understand extensions completely, but thats the right way to do it right?

[nocturne grove]

that will not work
@crimson vapor apparently not, but it should work. Also doing that with channels

[crimson vapor]

no

it is only stored as cache

so when your bot restarts

[nocturne grove]

I know

[opal plank]

now im confused

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/Guild?scrollTo=roles

guild roles

returns role manager

[crimson vapor]

yes

[opal plank]

then?

[crimson vapor]

roleManager.cache.get()

as of d.js v12

[opal plank]

yeah cache is a collection

which then gets role again

[crimson vapor]

yes

[opal plank]

which doesnt have d in it

[crimson vapor]

Role does not mean roleManager

yes

he is adding .d himself

[nocturne grove]

yes I'm adding a property myself, which is possible

[opal plank]

extending?

[crimson vapor]

no

just adding

[nocturne grove]

Tim said it should work too

[opal plank]

i see

[celest schooner]

tim knows like every answer asked here

[opal plank]

no it's a property I'm adding myself

i missed this

derp

[crimson vapor]

why do you need a .d property that resets every time the bot restarts?

[misty sigil]

let filter = m => m.content === should work for getting collecting just the specified content right? (awaitMessages)

[crimson vapor]

I always used message collectors

[opal plank]

okay, for real, someone know if i can do this without opening 3 VSC instances?

[solemn latch]

that would filter for content === something
are you trying to map?

[crimson vapor]

yes

[misty sigil]

no i just wanna filter by content

[nocturne grove]

well for my problem I don't need to answer the question, but I'm adding newly added members of a role there. Same for <role>.old_members

[solemn latch]

yeah thats how you filter, iirc

[crimson vapor]

https://terano.dev/files/OuksSjoeLobsSawLexShot.png

[nocturne grove]

and if I can finally manage to add those properties properly, I can add some more

[opal plank]

@crimson vapor different workspaces

[crimson vapor]

oh

hmm

[nocturne grove]

and after restart, the new_members aren't needed anymore

[crimson vapor]

yes it works

just drag it

to the other tab

[opal plank]

wont that move the files?

i assume you mean drag the explorer part

[crimson vapor]

not if you drag it to the windows part

[cerulean venture]

So I'm curious how would I let my bot play spotify stuff without ads?

is there some sort of spotify api?

[opal plank]

hmmm dragging that ACTUAL window?

[crimson vapor]

where I circled you can drag the tab

[solemn latch]

iirc spotify doesnt allow music playing

[crimson vapor]

im sure its possible

[opal plank]

well that'd still need the other VSC instance to be opened

[cerulean venture]

hmm okay

[opal plank]

open file in second window, drag over

[crimson vapor]

no the windows does not need to be open

[opal plank]

cant get it to work

[crimson vapor]

you know how you would open 2 files side by side on vsc in the same workplace?

[pure lion]

What's going on here

[crimson vapor]

do the same but with different windows

[pure lion]

Isn't there a button to split the workspace

[opal plank]

right here

but thats for the same workspace

[crimson vapor]

I did it with 2 different workspaces

also you can press Ctrl + B

[opal plank]

ctrl b toggles explorer

[crimson vapor]

yes

[opal plank]

[crimson vapor]

so you can drag the windows to look like they are the same

kinda

ish

[opal plank]

wot

im not going for visuals lmao, just trying to only have 1 instance on 2 workspaces

[crimson vapor]

ah

[opal plank]

https://ptb.discordapp.com/channels/264445053596991498/272764566411149314/736962244759519265

thats what i got here

2 side by side

but they are 2 different VSC instances

[crimson vapor]

hmm

sorry I dont know how to explain better

[opal plank]

all good

its fine the way it is, just annoying to have to open 3 instances of VSC

[strange trout]

Are they different projects?@opal plank

[opal plank]

@strange trout technically yeah, 2 different workspaces

3 folders in total

[strange trout]

Can't you just add them all to the same workspace

[opal plank]

kinda

problem is the tsconfig loading

its 2 different langs

2 are Ts and 2 are Js

the debuggers would probably run fine since they each have their own targets, but not sure VSC linter and all that jazz would work fine

[strange trout]

Ah gotcha. Dunno then

But might as well rewrite that last JS to TS lol

[opal plank]

uuuuuughhh

that might be a bit troublesome

doable, but a lot of time required for it

[earnest phoenix]

                const newMoney = new Money({
                    userId: message.author.id,
                    money: "0",
                    bank: { max: 1000, current: 0 }
                })

newMoney.bank.current = undefiened

wtf ? help

[amber fractal]

what does the Money class look like

[lusty quest]

your model?

[earnest phoenix]

const mongoose = require("mongoose");

const moneySchema = mongoose.Schema({
    userId: String,
    money: Number,
    bank: Number,
    inventory: Object
})

module.exports = mongoose.model("Money", moneySchema);

oh no

[opal plank]

bank is a number

[earnest phoenix]

Number

ye

[restive furnace]

and money is number too, not a string

if you want bank to be an object mark it as Object.

[finite bough]

"0" = string
0 = number

[pure lion]

You can use isNaN or parseInt

[digital ibex]

sir

[pure lion]

mayam

LmAo imagine using the object constructor X))))

[lusty quest]

also mongoose will fail to create the dataset if the types are miss matched

[earnest phoenix]

o no

[restive furnace]

did he just take the snippet or smth

[digital ibex]

what it looks like you're doing is creating a schema for each module or whatever u wanna call it, this is really annoying and a stupid thing to do, here r the pros and cons of doing this:
cons:

1. harder to maintain
2. harder to upgrade
3. uses A LOT more storage
4. slows down the serialisation
5. queries will be impacted
   pros:
   none im aware of

[lusty quest]

i use maybe 3 schemas. for each of my bots

[digital ibex]

i use 2

[earnest phoenix]

money.money = money.money - number;
money.bank.current = money.bank.current + number;
message.channel.send(`Deposited ${number}$ to your bank.`);

why money.bank.current is not adding money

[digital ibex]

moyai

[earnest phoenix]

i did money.save()

[crimson vapor]

does mongodb send all data and let the lib deal with it or does mongodb do the searches?

[earnest phoenix]

@crimson vapor nope

[lusty quest]

wait no 1 bot uses 3 bcs one of them is not attached to the other 2 in a way

[summer torrent]

@earnest phoenix do money.save()

[lusty quest]

the others use 2 1 for the guild and 1 for users

[earnest phoenix]

i did

but nothing

[summer torrent]

where

also use updateOne()

[digital ibex]

it decompresses the data, adorabal number

[lusty quest]

then is a type missmatched

[earnest phoenix]

only money.money is losing money

[digital ibex]

use await Promise.all :p

[earnest phoenix]

money.bank.current is not adding money

[digital ibex]

you're already been told why

[crimson vapor]

yes but lets say you can only download 5kbps, is it better to have more docs and stress the cpu or have one doc and stress then network?

[lusty quest]

i have promise all attached globally so i dont need to call it

[digital ibex]

bank is a number

[summer torrent]

@earnest phoenix show your data schema

[earnest phoenix]

._. ok wait

[digital ibex]

wdym?

[earnest phoenix]

const mongoose = require("mongoose");

const moneySchema = mongoose.Schema({
    userId: String,
    money: Number,
    bank: Object,
    inventory: Object
})

module.exports = mongoose.model("Money", moneySchema);

[digital ibex]

\🗿

[earnest phoenix]

ye idk why i have show it

cuz it has no error

[digital ibex]

shouldnt inventory be an array?

[summer torrent]

replace Object with {current: 0}

[crimson vapor]

not if he wants an object

but an array probably would be more efficient

[earnest phoenix]

ye but better array

                    bank: { max: 1000, current: 0 }

this is my bank

[digital ibex]

just like do, type: [ { ur data here } ]

[summer torrent]

bank: { current: 0 }

[crimson vapor]

wait what is even the problem with his schema now?

[earnest phoenix]

ye idk

dude

[summer torrent]

or js bank: { current: { type: Number, default: 0 } }

[earnest phoenix]

but the shema makes no problem

                    let number = parseInt(args[0]);
                    if(number <= 0) return message.channel.send("You can't deposite a number less then 1");
                    if((money.bank.current + args[0]) > money.bank.max) return message.channel.send("The maximum of moneys that you can deposite is " + (money.bank.max - money.bank.current));
                    if(number > money.money) return message.channel.send("You don't have so much moneys.");
                    money.money = money.money - number;
                    money.bank.current = money.bank.current + number;
                    message.channel.send(`Deposited ${number}$ to your bank.`);

[digital ibex]

@earnest phoenix this is what ur doing:
i assigned bobs name to a string, and im setting the default of bobs name, if he wants to change it, to a number

[earnest phoenix]

here is the problem

[digital ibex]

both are meant to be strings in mr bobs case

[earnest phoenix]

Well

And

[crimson vapor]

im so confused as well

[earnest phoenix]

me 2

[digital ibex]

maybe i didnt explain it good

[earnest phoenix]

How i put a welcome picture

[digital ibex]

its okay

[earnest phoenix]

?

[digital ibex]

heres another example

let bob: string = 'bob';
bob = 10;
``` ?

does this make more sense lul

?

[earnest phoenix]

i just wanted to ask why the money.bank.current is not working

[lusty quest]

the thing with mongoose is for some reason it doesnt throw errors if the types on a query are miss matched (atleast what i get in the past)

[digital ibex]

you've been told many times

[earnest phoenix]

let bob: string = 'bob';
bob = 10;
``` ?

@digital ibex I fixed it

[crimson vapor]

because bank.current is not a thing

[digital ibex]

you can still do that with mongoose

[earnest phoenix]

because bank.current is not a thing
@crimson vapor bank: {max: 1000, current: 0} ._.

[digital ibex]

thats not the issue

well, just show what you've got now

[crimson vapor]

can I see a picture of your doc in the db?

[digital ibex]

the schema and doc

[lusty quest]

it doesnt send a doc bcs it cant send one bcs the query fails

[crimson vapor]

I want a picture of mongodb compas

[crimson vapor]

ty

[lusty quest]

hmm

then its not the schema i guess

[earnest phoenix]

bank.current = bank.current + number

[digital ibex]

are you awaiting it?

[earnest phoenix]

is not working

are you awaiting it?
@digital ibex yes

[digital ibex]

you need to await

send ur code

[honest perch]

@earnest phoenix https://npmjs.org/package/canvas

[earnest phoenix]

async function action() {
                if(!args[0]) return message.channel.send("Please supply a number of moneys that you want to deposite.");
                if(isNaN(args[0]) && args[0].toLowerCase() != "max") return message.channel.send("Invalid number !");
                if(args[0].toLowerCase() == "max") {
                    if((money.money + money.bank.current) < money.bank.max) {
                        money.money = 0;
                        money.bank.current = money.bank.current + money.money;
                        message.channel.send(`Deposited ${money.money}$ to your bank.`);
                    }
                    if(money.money > money.bank.max) {
                        let number = money.bank.max - money.bank.current;
                        money.money = money.money - number;
                        money.bank.current = money.bank.current + number;
                        message.channel.send(`Deposited ${number}$ to your bank.`);
                    }
                }
                else {
                    let number = parseInt(args[0]);
                    if(number <= 0) return message.channel.send("You can't deposite a number less then 1");
                    if((money.bank.current + args[0]) > money.bank.max) return message.channel.send("The maximum of moneys that you can deposite is " + (money.bank.max - money.bank.current));
                    if(number > money.money) return message.channel.send("You don't have so much moneys.");
                    money.money = money.money - number;
                    money.bank.current = money.bank.current + number;
                    message.channel.send(`Deposited ${number}$ to your bank.`);
                }
                await money.save();
            }

[lusty quest]

console.log your bank object

[earnest phoenix]

this is my function

@lusty quest no bank is working pretty well but the math is something wrong

[lusty quest]

so is the undefined error gone?

[earnest phoenix]

nope

nothing

only the bank.current = bank.current + number is not working

[crimson vapor]

change js if(isNaN(args[0]) && args[0].toLowerCase() != "max") return message.channel.send("Invalid number !"); to js if(isNaN(args[0]) && args[0].toLowerCase() !== "max") return message.channel.send("Invalid number !");

[lusty quest]

this could be an issue due to the sync behavior of node

[earnest phoenix]

._.

so how i can fix it

[crimson vapor]

what was the error again?

[earnest phoenix]

only the bank.current = bank.current + number is not working
this

[crimson vapor]

can I see what the error is?

[earnest phoenix]

Bank.current is not ADDING MONEY

THAT IS THE PROBLEM

[crimson vapor]

oh so no error

oh gotcha

[earnest phoenix]

YES

[crimson vapor]

my bad

[lusty quest]

is the number a number?

[earnest phoenix]

                    let number = parseInt(args[0]);

._.

[finite bough]

if number was not a number he would have goten an error

[lusty quest]

not really

[earnest phoenix]

or maybe i have to parseInt() the bank.current ?

[lusty quest]

node can add numbers to strings

[crimson vapor]

yea

[lusty quest]

if you store bank.current as a number it should return as a number

[finite bough]

yea but like if he did that atleast the thing would not reamin the same

[earnest phoenix]

    bank: { max: Number, current: Number },

[finite bough]

add

[lusty quest]

it will not change bcs mongoose just dont query it bcs the field types are missmatched

[earnest phoenix]

maybe i have to fix the Shema

[finite bough]

money.save().catch(err => console.log(err))

to check if there is something wrong with the saving

[earnest phoenix]

OMFG

it works

i need to fix the Shema

    bank: { max: Number, current: Number },

[finite bough]

thats a rare case but still try it

lol

[earnest phoenix]

@earnest phoenix message.guild.roles ?

[lusty quest]

an error?

[crimson vapor]

guild is not defined

[earnest phoenix]

wait i need to check my code

[finite bough]

@earnest phoenix define guild

[earnest phoenix]

message.guild

[crimson vapor]

also, no need to create a role for your bot

[lusty quest]

its a ready event @earnest phoenix

[earnest phoenix]

:0

but u dont have to create role for ur bot

[crimson vapor]

there is no message on a ready event

[lusty quest]

either use a loop to do it for every guild or get the guildid of the guild where you want it

[earnest phoenix]

@earnest phoenix
https://discordapi.com/permissions.html

[crimson vapor]

you need to fetch or grab the role from the cache

[lusty quest]

i guess he has no idea about javascript and just throw a frankenstein bot from 5 different YT tutorials together

[crimson vapor]

client.guilds.cache.get("GUILDID").roles.create()

[lime pumice]

im having a error install quick.db

[lusty quest]

more precise?

[solemn latch]

quickdb has a support discord

https://www.npmjs.com/package/quick.db
linked here

[crimson vapor]

no you need to add the guild's ID

[solemn latch]

🤔

[honest perch]

...

[earnest phoenix]

........

[marble juniper]

dotpostum

[lime pumice]

quick.db ppl arent helpin me out

can someone of u do?

[solemn latch]

the vast majority of people here ive noticed dont use quickdb

[lime pumice]

oh

do u use?

[solemn latch]

I use mysql

[digital ibex]

i remember when everyone here used to use it lul

[crimson vapor]

I use mongodb

[solemn latch]

I remember lots of people having issues with quickdb

[digital ibex]

same

quickkk quesiton

[lusty quest]

funny is if someone got issues with Databases its usually either MongoDB or quickdb

[digital ibex]

i installed nodejs v14.6, and im getting this error: SyntaxError: await is only valid in async function the code:

let connectSocket;
try {
    connectSocket = await ws.createWebSocketStream(constants.GATEWAY);
    console.log('mother trucker!!!');
} catch (e) {
    console.error(e);
}```

[lusty quest]

like in the past 5 Months. i saw like 30 people here having issues with quickdb and 5 with MongoDB

[crimson vapor]

nice error

[digital ibex]

thank m8

[crimson vapor]

try using an async function

[lusty quest]

@digital ibex is your function async?

[digital ibex]

no

[lusty quest]

make is async

[digital ibex]

with v14.6, theres a top level await

u can use await outside an async function

[pure lion]

Wait

Omg

[digital ibex]

https://medium.com/javascript-in-plain-english/javascript-top-level-await-in-a-nutshell-4e352b3fc8c8

[pure lion]

That's so sexy

[digital ibex]

its not

[pure lion]

I love that so much

[digital ibex]

its really annoying

[crimson vapor]

do node -v

[digital ibex]

i done that

v14.6

[pure lion]

:v

Just type node

It's not that hard

[digital ibex]

wot

[crimson vapor]

are you using .mjs?

[pure lion]

Welcome to node {version}

[digital ibex]

but the ctrl + c twice 😩

no, js

[pure lion]

😏 😔

🏳️‍🌈:rainbow_flag:

[crimson vapor]

yeah

[pure lion]

Oh it actually joins them

[crimson vapor]

on the article it says module.mjs when they show code

so try using mjs

[pure lion]

What is the difference between mjs and js?

[crimson vapor]

idk

[pure lion]

e

[digital ibex]

mjs is just like source code.. of es6 kinda i think

im not familiar with it or ever used it in a production environment

[earnest phoenix]

@lusty quest hey u there ?

Money.sort(['money'])

[lusty quest]

ye

[earnest phoenix]

this not correct

how i can fix it :))

[lusty quest]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crimson vapor]

Money.sort( a.money - b.money)

[digital ibex]

you do realise

thats not how sort works?

[earnest phoenix]

(node:7577) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: TypeError: money.sort is not a function

[lime pumice]

Does someone has a fix for quick.db

[digital ibex]

🗿

[crimson vapor]

ah yes forrgot

what the FUCK does moyaing mean

[digital ibex]

haha lmfao @solemn latch

[crimson vapor]

explain

[digital ibex]

its basically

my version of saying bruh

[solemn latch]

ah

[crimson vapor]

its stupid tbh

[digital ibex]

ok

nguyenxd:

[crimson vapor]

iirc mongodb uses different sort

[digital ibex]

what sort?

[crimson vapor]

one sec

[digital ibex]

its stupid tbh

never heard of it, but if it is a thing, sounds useless

[crimson vapor]

https://terano.dev/files/GothTwaeCeroOyezOlmTika.png

[solemn latch]

your database sorting?

[digital ibex]

i thought meant an array.sort but for mongo

[solemn latch]

429 errors typically mean ratelimit

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status/429

very likely

most music bots rotate ip's

[jovial nexus]

someone know how to detect when someone is online?

i menan, if someone is online, the bot says "@someone is online"

[opal plank]

status presence

im assuming its d.js

author has presence property in it

@jovial nexus https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/User?scrollTo=presence

[solemn latch]

if you are looking for events when people go online.
i think your looking for GUILD_PRESENCES
which is privileged

https://discord.com/developers/docs/topics/gateway#privileged-intents

client.guilds would be the guildManager

client.guilds.cache would be all the cached guilds

and size would give you the size of that

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Map/size

client.guilds.cache would be the actual guilds

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Map/size

spoonfeeding

[bright quartz]

Does anyone know how to add a music command to play music on the bot? It should connect to the voice channel itself

Ok

Thanks

[solemn latch]

depends on your language and lib

🤔

[bright quartz]

I use discord.js

With MongoDB and Heroku

[solemn latch]

the link he gave you is java

[bright quartz]

Oh

[solemn latch]

heroku doesnt like music bots

[bright quartz]

Why

Server Load?

[solid falcon]

Is Guild changed to Server on discord.py latest version?

[solemn latch]

in that example, the console log would log 3

[bright quartz]

Yes i think

[solemn latch]

because map has a size of 3

[bright quartz]

Heroku likes bots wth

[solemn latch]

size gets the size of something

[bright quartz]

They earn $$$ from our bot hosting

[solemn latch]

well, heroku likes to host websites, not bots

[bright quartz]

It can host nice enough

[solemn latch]

something being your guilds @earnest phoenix

[bright quartz]

[solemn latch]

sure, but music bots require multiple ip's

heroku doesnt offer that

[bright quartz]

Ohhhhhh

Does Glitch allow me to do that

[solemn latch]

glitch doesnt let bots run 24/7 unless you pay for their 24/7 product

which is overpriced

[bright quartz]

Oh

Can't I use both

Lol

[solemn latch]

at the end of the day, pretty sure youll be spending money to have a music bot

[bright quartz]

Oh

Can't I use my computer

To host and stuff

[solemn latch]

self hosting isnt a great idea either.
if you use youtube for music bots, youll get your whole home network banned from youtube

[bright quartz]

Oh

I will use a Vpn then

[solemn latch]

nearly everyone ive seen use heroku and music bots end up getting banned

[bright quartz]

Lol

Why

[solemn latch]

or paying for better services

[bright quartz]

Why they get ban

[solemn latch]

its not really what its made for

[bright quartz]

Ohhhhhh

I see

What's your opinion

[solemn latch]

proper vps hosting

[bright quartz]

?

Wth is dat

[solemn latch]

virtual private server

[lusty quest]

iirc heroku doesnt offer enought power for music bots

[solemn latch]

https://discordapp.com/channels/264445053596991498/272764566411149314/624748628996653097

[lusty quest]

many users here tryed it but came here bcs of out of memory errors

[bright quartz]

virtual private server
@solemn latch how do I do that

[solemn latch]

the link i just posted is a handful of suggested providers

i use galaxygate personally to host my websites and bots.
but any of them work really

[bright quartz]

Oh, I used Digital Ocean

[lusty quest]

i can also recomend Digital ocean

[bright quartz]

It gives 100$ when u add a payment method

[solemn latch]

i dont think they do that promotion anymore

[lusty quest]

will last for me maybe 4 Months

[bright quartz]

No

They still have it

[earnest phoenix]

i use GCP

Google cloud

[bright quartz]

Firebase?

[earnest phoenix]

and it gives me 300$

and i can use it for 1 years

[sonic lodge]

that bonus $ shouldn't be a selling point

[bright quartz]

Lol

You is correct

[lusty quest]

Digital ocean is solid. i have currently 5 VPS there and they just work without any issue

[bright quartz]

Ok

[earnest phoenix]

i recommend this

• OVH: https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/
  Starting at $3.35/mo for 1 core, 2GB RAM, 20GB SSD

[bright quartz]

So, I can host my bot there

[lusty quest]

ovh is shit

[quaint hound]

vultr is really good as well

[earnest phoenix]

why ?

[lusty quest]

they have a solid firewall

but it blocks Discord

[earnest phoenix]

wtf is that

LoL

so why DJS recommen

it

[lusty quest]

it works

[solemn latch]

paid promotion?

[lusty quest]

but can be annoying

[bright quartz]

Lol

[lusty quest]

some users reported that they have issues with bots there

[earnest phoenix]

hmmmm

sad

[bright quartz]

[lusty quest]

i had a Root server from OVH but it was Meh. so many issues with hosting gameservers

[earnest phoenix]

or maybe this

• Time4VPS: https://www.time4vps.eu/
  Starting at €3.99/month for 1 core, 2GB RAM, 20GB SSD

[bright quartz]

Nah

[earnest phoenix]

2GB ram

it is good

[golden condor]

check pins

[quaint hound]

i personally use vultr because of price and also ease of use

[bright quartz]

Digital Ocean sounds good

[earnest phoenix]

wait we need CPU

not RAM ?

[lusty quest]

if you want something reliable go to a Hoster with good rep

[golden condor]

https://contabo.com

[quaint hound]

https://vultr.com

[lusty quest]

contabo is ok but nah

[earnest phoenix]

but we need good cpu not ram

[bright quartz]

What does a VPS do?

[lusty quest]

you need Ram CPU not really

[earnest phoenix]

Makes ur bot 24/7

[quaint hound]

its just like your own server

[solemn latch]

its a small portion of a larger server

[quaint hound]

so you can run the bot all the time without having to keep your home computer on all the time

[bright quartz]

So what

[solemn latch]

other people are on the server with their own section of the server

[bright quartz]

Heroku does that too

[quaint hound]

thats not important woo

[earnest phoenix]

if ur bot is smal

[solemn latch]

he asked what a vps is

[earnest phoenix]

u can use Heroku

[solemn latch]

🤔

lol

[lusty quest]

you can but its annoying af

[quaint hound]

i think he just meant what do i do with it

[bright quartz]

[lusty quest]

and paid VPS offer you more power and are more stable

with no forced restarts

[bright quartz]

Oh

[quaint hound]

for all simple intents and purposes its the same as a dedicated server

[earnest phoenix]

If ur bot is in 20servers or less u can use Heroku

[ashen shard]

hello everyone, i need my bot to write a text and end the message with a custom emoji

what can i do?

[bright quartz]

Should I buy one

[ashen shard]

i use javascript

[earnest phoenix]

@ashen shard Read docs

https://discord.js.org

[quaint hound]

your bot can use emojis just by typing out the emoji string

and discord will make it into the correct emoji

[earnest phoenix]

@ashen shard u need to add emoji and then send it

[quaint hound]

just look at docs to see the proper format

[earnest phoenix]

ye

for example

[bright quartz]

I have a Moderation bot

[earnest phoenix]

:x:

is diffrent of

\:x:

❌

\❌

[bright quartz]

I have a partnership with Heroku

[earnest phoenix]

wtf

wdym

[torn ravine]

?

how

[bright quartz]

My bot iz online for Lifetime

[earnest phoenix]

me 2

everyone has it

[ashen shard]

\🦞

[bright quartz]

U know DashCruft?

[ashen shard]

🦞

yeah

[bright quartz]

He got Partnership with Heroku

[ashen shard]

but does the same apply for custom emojis

[torn ravine]

yes

\

[quaint hound]

i dont personally understand why people trust hosting sites like glitch and heroku with their public bot

[torn ravine]

@ashen shard !borb

[ashen shard]

so i have this emoji, :crycool:

[bright quartz]

So I paid with him 250$ to make app on his Heroku

Now it is lifetime

He coded the bot and more

It has so many features now

He setup MongoDB too!

Ez

Why is everyone so silent

[quaint hound]

cool lol

can we all agree glitch hosted bots are the worst idea

[bright quartz]

Yup

[ashen shard]

if i write message.channel.sendMessage(<:'crycool:423199537482432522>') will it send me an emoji

@torn ravine

[lusty quest]

sure if you pay you get a Decent host. But free suck

[solemn latch]

sendMessage?

[quaint hound]

if you're using discord.js then dont use sendMessage

just send

[earnest phoenix]

@bright quartz Ur so dumb

why u paid him

wtf

[bright quartz]

Lol

[lusty quest]

its a good deal?

[earnest phoenix]

nO

[ashen shard]

i'm using the classic index.js

[bright quartz]

He coded the bot

[earnest phoenix]

:0

[quaint hound]

i hope you dont mean pay him out of pocket

[lusty quest]

250$ for a lifetime?

[solemn latch]

index.js best lib

[earnest phoenix]

that is another thing

[solemn latch]

[bright quartz]

Yes

Lifetime

[ashen shard]

lol im a newbie

[quaint hound]

i thought he meant with partnership money

[earnest phoenix]

@bright quartz so u didn't coded ur bot

[ashen shard]

so im patching yt vids with discord servers to get some knowledge

[bright quartz]

I did wtf

He removed bugs

[earnest phoenix]

then why YOU PAID HIM

[solemn latch]

$250 to remove bugs

[quaint hound]

dude you kinda got ripped off

[solemn latch]

pog

[earnest phoenix]

LMAO

[bright quartz]

To Host my boy

Bot

[quaint hound]

$250 is hella expensive

[earnest phoenix]

@bright quartz ur so rich

[torn ravine]

@ashen shard that would be it

[solemn latch]

heroku is free

[earnest phoenix]

yes

it is free

[ashen shard]

thanks, will return after i do it.

[bright quartz]

It has a downtime

[earnest phoenix]

NO

it doesnt

[bright quartz]

520 hours for a month

[quaint hound]

lets say hosting fees are $5 (theyre free but for the sake of argument)

[bright quartz]

U don't know wtf

[lusty quest]

@quaint hound pay a VPS for 5 years how much did you spent?

[earnest phoenix]

free version gives u 28 days

so 3 days offline

[bright quartz]

ikr

[earnest phoenix]

what is the problem

[quaint hound]

$300 for 5 years

[earnest phoenix]

3 days for 250$ ?

[bright quartz]

3 Days

[earnest phoenix]

xD

[lusty quest]

so he payd 250$ for a lifetime this is way more than 5 years

[earnest phoenix]

rip 250$

[bright quartz]

No wth

[solemn latch]

how much is the extra 3 days anyway

[digital ibex]

hahha lmfao

[solemn latch]

🤔

[earnest phoenix]

with ?

[quaint hound]

yeah but most people dont even keep their bot online for 3 years

[bright quartz]

I paid 250, he returned 50$ idk why

[earnest phoenix]

maybe he feel guilty

[bright quartz]

Now he has 200$

[quaint hound]

a one time investment wasnt smart

[bright quartz]

Bro whatever, he worked so hard

[lusty quest]

ive got a Minecraft Server with a Lifetime of uptime. payed 150$ on a Black Friday sale

[quaint hound]

if you want to get your money's worth, learn to do it yourself

[solemn latch]

pog

[digital ibex]

yes

[bright quartz]

Minecraft Server lol

[outer niche]

Don't you have to have some type of code in for your invites to jump up by two

[digital ibex]

make a server urself

sure

[earnest phoenix]

nah he just debug ur code and give u a hosting which is free for 250$

that is not good prise

[quaint hound]

^

idc if he "worked hard", i bet he did for that much of a steal

[cinder patio]

so in other words, you got scammed

[quaint hound]

not scammed

[earnest phoenix]

i think NighMaster is crying in a corner ?

[quaint hound]

just made a bad buying decision

[earnest phoenix]

he is not typing anymore

||SCAMMMM||

[quaint hound]

btw random question

[earnest phoenix]

huh ?

[quaint hound]

how many of you use one-file bots and how many use module exports

[cinder patio]

Nah that's definitely a scam. I doubt the other guy actually got the lifetime plan for 200$, probably put his bot on the free one and kept the coins

[solemn latch]

exports

[earnest phoenix]

how many of you use one-file bots and how many use module exports
@quaint hound wdym

[solemn latch]

command handler

[quaint hound]

is all or most of your bots code in one file

[solemn latch]

or no command handler

[quaint hound]

youll have a command handler either way

[earnest phoenix]

if there is command handler

[opal plank]

handler 100%

[earnest phoenix]

ur index will be 5000lines +

[opal plank]

after 10 commands you simply CANT not have it

[quaint hound]

thats not the question lmao

i have 2k lines in my file, it works just fine

[opal plank]

if its a bot with simple shit, sure why not, but after a while it gets too cluttered

[earnest phoenix]

@quaint hound but slow

[quaint hound]

not any slower than modules

[earnest phoenix]

const { Client, Collection } = require("discord.js");
const bot = new Client();
require('dotenv').config();
const mongoose = require("mongoose");

["aliases", "commands"].forEach(x => bot[x] = new Collection());
["snipes"].forEach(x => bot[x] = new Map());
["command", "event"].forEach(x => require(`./handlers/${x}`)(bot));

mongoose.connect(process.env.mongourl, {
    useNewUrlParser: true,
    useUnifiedTopology: true
}).then(console.log("Mongo is ready.")).catch(e => console.log(e));

bot.login(process.env.token);

this is my index

[opal plank]

use ES6+ syntax

[cinder patio]

performance won't matter, but it will be so much harder to modify

[opal plank]

import/export

[solemn latch]

all my commands are exported, and have 440 lines in my index

🤷‍♂️

[cinder patio]

it's the same thing

[ashen shard]

It worked, thank you @torn ravine

[cinder patio]

require and import/export are the same thing

[quaint hound]

i mean i feel like both work just fine

[opal plank]

my main index has

[solemn latch]

ones just more proper

[quaint hound]

i never had issues with too many lines cause you can just collapse in code editor

[opal plank]

thats on the twitch

[quaint hound]

plus ctrl + f works with one file and not multiple

[earnest phoenix]

imagine u use command /eval process.env.token

[solemn latch]

you can search all files

🤔

[quaint hound]

yeah but thats an extra step

[opal plank]

that on youtube

[earnest phoenix]

why ;

remove it

[opal plank]

so, 150 on main, 140 on twitch, 400 on youtube

[solemn latch]

why is it an extra step

[earnest phoenix]

wdym ?

[quaint hound]

if i was making a framework i would 1000% use module exports

[solemn latch]

control + f pulls up my search all bar

[quaint hound]

not for me lmao

[opal plank]

jesus

somany db calls

[earnest phoenix]

for me it search only in one files

[quaint hound]

but idk why they put module exports in beginner tutorials because thats one of the most common beginner errors

[earnest phoenix]

when i use ctrl + f

[opal plank]

use es6 syntax

Export/import (default)

[quaint hound]

always use es6

[solemn latch]

exports is something your kinda expected to understand

before bot development

[quaint hound]

really isnt lmao

[opal plank]

you already use module export, might aswell switch to export directly

[solemn latch]

🤔

[opal plank]

lmao i always point that out

[quaint hound]

module exports arent basic tho

[solemn latch]

yes they are

[quaint hound]

its not complicated

[solemn latch]

its like week one of js

[quaint hound]

but its not bare bones basic

uh no?

[solemn latch]

you should have a fairly decent grasp of JavaScript itself.

[earnest phoenix]

wtf

[solemn latch]

fairly decent grasp

[restive furnace]

exports default const example = "is this right es6 syntax?";

[earnest phoenix]

not working

[quaint hound]

they say "should"

[solemn latch]

yeah

its expected

[opal plank]

export default {
module
}

[earnest phoenix]

anyone use jest module ?

[quaint hound]

but i just think it adds another level of unnecessary complexity to a tutorial meant to be for beginners

[earnest phoenix]

for testing their bot

[opal plank]

here's example

es6

[solemn latch]

the tutorial is meant for beginners of bots, not javascript

[restive furnace]

ah okay

[opal plank]

es11 technically

but its using e6 stuff

[quaint hound]

ehhhh kinda

my point is why add a feature if its not necessary and doesnt clean up the code within the scope of the tutorial

[earnest phoenix]

im done

[opal plank]

its not necessary to use switch cases too

you can nest 50 IF's

doesnt make it right tho

works? yeah. its it the worst thing you can do? also yes

[quaint hound]

afaik switch and if statements are considered equally good

[opal plank]

module exports do have a feature

being able to delete cache and re-request

[quaint hound]

both have advantages and disadvantages

[solemn latch]

there are right times to use switch cases and if statements

there are right times to use exports, and not use exports

[opal plank]

if (args[0] === something) //do something;
if (args[0] === something) //do something;
if (args[0] === something) //do something;
if (args[0] === something) //do something;
//and 68 other commands```

ive seen this

quite a few times actually

[quaint hound]

that's actually faster than a switch i'm pretty sure

switch is just more readable

[restive furnace]

ive seen few times too js switch(msg.content) { case "help": //do something // etc. }

[solemn latch]

switch cases are build for that are they not?

[opal plank]

indeed

[quaint hound]

yeah whats the issue with that switch

[solemn latch]

thats the exact purpose for them

[quaint hound]

wait

no prefix

lmao

[opal plank]

thats just matching content

[earnest phoenix]

how to console.log()

*
**
***
****
*****

[cinder patio]

Actually switch is faster, as it basically acts as a Map, while if statements get checked one by one

[solemn latch]

^

[restive furnace]

^^

[opal plank]

you should use the proper stuff

[quaint hound]

ik switch is faster for some things and slower for others

[solemn latch]

its their purpose to do that

[earnest phoenix]

console.log("*")
.
.
.
console.log("*****")

[opal plank]

its not cuz 'it works' that makes it ok to use

[solemn latch]

^^

[quaint hound]

i though faster for numbers and slower for strings, but i might have gotten mixed up

[solemn latch]

nah

[opal plank]

you could do 30 message event listeners and enable more than 11 listeners on node too if you the type of person who is okay with anything

[solemn latch]

i have two ready events

🤔

[quaint hound]

i'm not saying its right just cause it works

[solemn latch]

a once and an on

[restive furnace]

why

[opal plank]

after 5 or 6 commands you definetly should move them into different folders

[quaint hound]

but there's usually a tradeoff between ease of use/readability, performance, and how "correct" it's considered

[opal plank]

theres no reaosn not to

[solemn latch]

the bot can be ready more than once

[quaint hound]

my reason is "i didnt feel like it"

[restive furnace]

why u then have on too? i use once only.

[opal plank]

lazyness

[quaint hound]

it's not hurting anybody lmao

[solemn latch]

i need some things to run on every ready event

[opal plank]

so are 33 message events

[solemn latch]

some only once

[quaint hound]

what no lmao

[opal plank]

yes

they both work

theya rent hurting anybody

as you said

[quaint hound]

i just meant separating commands

if it was my bot then maybe i would do that

[opal plank]

yeah, same for events

it works with multiple events

just ignore the memory leak warnings

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solemn latch]

i dont see you sending anything

[quaint hound]

obv that causes memory issues

[opal plank]

@earnest phoenix

send it

you just declaring it

now you worry about performance?

its okay to not split files to make stuff better both visually and performance speaking but not 10 listeners?

you really on the fence with that

[quaint hound]

its not better visually to me

[solemn latch]

I do a lot not properly water, but i will never pretend that its okay

🤔

[opal plank]

having an index with 5k lines is?

[quaint hound]

yeah i prefer one file just cause i dont want to switch around tabs a lot

sue me

[opal plank]

[restive furnace]

my index.js is, and will stay at 30 lines hehe

[solemn latch]

how often do you edit random files

finish a command, then work on the next

[sudden geyser]

my index file is 236 lines long

[quaint hound]

not too often

everything is pretty much set at this point

[cinder patio]

if you find it better then keep everything in one file, why is this discussion still going on? It's up to personal preference.

[solemn latch]

your probs spending more time searching for things than if you seperated everything

[opal plank]

my indexes are 150 on main, 140 on twitch, 400 on youtube and 150 on beta branch

[quaint hound]

nah I'm not

i know where everything is

i wrote it lmao

[shy turret]

I decided to try to make a little coding language but only the last line of code is working.
For some reason, line 52 is messed up and I can't find the problem. Can anyone help me?
(ping me back)

Parser Code: https://github.com/real2two/custom-scripts/blob/master/index.js (line 51-53)
send Code: https://github.com/real2two/custom-scripts/blob/master/events/send%2520%2522%2520to%2520message%2520channel.js
Read Code: https://github.com/real2two/custom-scripts/blob/master/scripts/736608210932334593.txt
Output:

[quaint hound]

and collapsing shit helps

[opal plank]

i really dont get you dawg

[quaint hound]

if you couldn't tell i'm 100% self taught

[solemn latch]

so am i

🤔

[opal plank]

so am i

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/272764566411149314/736962240044990505/Code_UREBnARrdP.png

[digital ibex]

same

[opal plank]

take a look

'self taught'

[quaint hound]

and one of the reasons people hate learning programming IME is because some things are just convention and are just considered correct

there's a lot of "that's not correct" just cause

[opal plank]

yeah, if you work people will tell you to standartize your code

[solemn latch]

theres a reason those correct things are correct

[quaint hound]

ever been on stack exchange

[cinder patio]

You should push your changes more often 🙂

[quaint hound]

sometimes there is

[opal plank]

@cinder patio you are indeed correct

[quaint hound]

if i was actually working with people i would stick to the standard

[opal plank]

im only pushing changes on the main branch wich is privated

'i rather walk with my hands, untill i need to go outside, then i walk with my legs'

[solemn latch]

you never know when projects will become worked on by a team

[opal plank]

why not make a good habit?

[quaint hound]

but people like to pretend that there's only one way just because its the way most people do it

[opal plank]

the moment you need to switch you'll struggle with it cuz you always been doing it the wrong way

[quaint hound]

if there's a good enough reason ofc i would

[opal plank]

[solemn latch]

your saying things about this about things with actual reasons to do it properly tho.

[quaint hound]

i dont even like calling nested ifs wrong because it's not wrong

[cinder patio]

I mean, the most accepted way is probably also the best one, no? In general, if a ton of people are using it, then there's a reason why

[quaint hound]

just less efficient

usually there is

[opal plank]

30 message listeners also 'just work'

[quaint hound]

they're not "wrong"

just inefficient

[opal plank]

you're just chosing a different evil

why not just use the proper stuff?

[sudden geyser]

preference?

[opal plank]

lazyness

[sudden geyser]

nah

[quaint hound]

if it works, it's not wrong, and then that gets people into a weird mentality about "my way is right"

[opal plank]

https://ptb.discordapp.com/channels/264445053596991498/272764566411149314/737000678173573150

100% lazyness

[quaint hound]

some things only have advantages in certain scenarios

[opal plank]

its not 'my way', its the standard way

neither of us came up with it

[quaint hound]

true

[opal plank]

we were told by who knows better than us as a fact and we followed it

[quaint hound]

not everyone who knows better than you is always right

[opal plank]

same apply for teachers

[quaint hound]

my main issue is not even giving less efficient options the time of day

[opal plank]

they have far more experience, unless you can prove otherwise, its wise to listen to it

[solemn latch]

stacking if statements is less efficent than switch cases

[quaint hound]

for example, option A is better most of the time, and everyone learns option A because its "right"

[solemn latch]

but A is better here

[quaint hound]

then people cant use option B when they need to because its "wrong"

true

[opal plank]

why use B when you know A is better?

[quaint hound]

its not that i take issue with

[opal plank]

thats just being stuborn

[slender thistle]

list comprehensions are more efficient in Python but fuck nested ones, I'd rather do nested for loops

[quaint hound]

i mean when B is better people cant use it because its "wrong"

[solemn latch]

yes

[opal plank]

you tell them a is better

so they learn frmo it

[cinder patio]

I can only consider using one file if my bot is going to have only a few commands

[opal plank]

stubbornness and laziness are killers

[solemn latch]

didnt you say your index is thousands of lines?

[quaint hound]

mine?

[opal plank]

indeed

[quaint hound]

1800

[opal plank]

i think from all of us here i was the one with most lines

150

you get the difference?

[cinder patio]

My main file is 18 lines

[opal plank]

my youtube has 400 but that could be fixed rather easily by sending the dispatcher somewhere else

[solemn latch]

^ 440 is my index, and its because lazieness

[quaint hound]

but what about having 400 lines is inherently bad

[opal plank]

mine is 400 cuz there isnt any lib on it, i had to write it all down

[quaint hound]

or even 50,000 if you can collapse it when you need to

[solemn latch]

in my case, doing things out of place.
if it was in its own file i could find it easier

[quaint hound]

there's nothing inherently wrong with that

[solemn latch]

🤔

[opal plank]

i could just execute dispatcher with a callback function, sure, that'd cut my index to 280 ish

[solemn latch]

its so much easier to find things

[quaint hound]

this stuff comes with tradeoffs, and calling one thing "right" doesnt give the full story

[solemn latch]

two clicks to find anything

saving time

is one

[quaint hound]

easier is an opinion in a lot of cases

[opal plank]

how many things do you collpase?

[solemn latch]

i or anyone can find my api in two clicks

no scrolling

[opal plank]

cuz the way we telling you is 2 clicks

[solemn latch]

no searching

no telling where it is

[opal plank]

if you rather click on 50 collapses , good luck

[quaint hound]

depends on mood

[opal plank]

theres no mood

[solemn latch]

one is objectively faster here, even if i never told you a thing

[quaint hound]

i mean when i'm the one working on it i collapse however many I feel like

[opal plank]

how many clicks does that take you?

[quaint hound]

idk how you could have issues finding things when you wrote the code

[solemn latch]

some of my individual commands are as large as your index

🤔

[opal plank]

stubbornness and laziness are killers

[quaint hound]

agreed they can be

[opal plank]

you're being both

[quaint hound]

maybe so

who's loss is it?

[solemn latch]

your own

[quaint hound]

and who's preference, irrational as you may consider it, matters in that case

[solemn latch]

no ones

your doing things wrong, for the sake of being wrong

really

[opal plank]

https://ptb.discordapp.com/channels/264445053596991498/272764566411149314/737000678173573150 laziness
https://ptb.discordapp.com/channels/264445053596991498/272764566411149314/737004601324339200 stubbornness

[quaint hound]

again if I was working with someone else and it affected them too i would care a whole lot more about what was considered correct

[solemn latch]

why do it wrong, when its only taking more work to do it wrong

going out of your way to be wrong makes no sense to me

[quaint hound]

in my experience it doesnt feel like more work

[opal plank]

[quaint hound]

it feels like more work going through 18 exports to get where I need than just scrolling to where I know I put my code

[solemn latch]

you go to the one export

why would you go to the balance export, when you want the eval export

[quaint hound]

ok i meant file locations and such

[opal plank]

its all going to be in one folder