yup
#development
kind sedge
glad charm
Also there's nothing wrong with people using tutorials or copying code as long as one learns from it.
Programmers are so elitist smh.
autumn aspen
Exactly
I have a simple question can I use this in a normal respond command, ```
Hello
pure lion
Wdym
pure lion
Do you mean like message collectors
autumn aspen
I think
pure lion
Am I being wooshed
autumn aspen
Wait lemme see
digital ibex
i want to make a npm library, anyone got any ideas what It should be?
pure lion
Haha you're so funny ||this fucking community||
@digital ibex an easy to work with ascii generator?
autumn aspen
@earnest phoenix yup it worked
digital ibex
that would be easy though, i want to do something which would be a bit more challenging
autumn aspen
thx
digital ibex
because if u think about it, all it is just replace 
not tryna act smart or anything lmao
virtual drum sequence?
pure lion
you're literally a God to me say what you want
pure lion
Yeah, like it stores a 4x16 grid (jajaj) and it loops through the slots (jajajajajaj) to check a Boolean maybe, and it plays something??? Bruh idk
@digital ibex no fucking clue if that's remotely possible
earnest phoenix
is there anyway to open a folder then a file?
def get_accounts_from_file():
with open('accounts.txt') as file:
text = file.read()```instead of that i want it to open the folder then the accounts.txt file
pure lion
I'm assuming that's py
digital ibex
to play something lol, idk
proven lantern
where will this video show up in my bot's profile? Is there a recommended resolution to use for the video?
digital ibex
whats that?
digital ibex
oh
opaque seal
discord.js isn't obligated to cache literally every object
if you change a property on an object who knows when it's gonna get dropped
Is this true?
proven lantern
@opaque seal can we get more context?
solemn latch
ive never seen someone use that tbh
proven lantern
@solemn latch i was looking for an example bot with a video, but couldn't find one either
summer torrent
@proven lantern next to vote button
https://top.gg/bot/697550195910508555 here is example
proven lantern
thanks @summer torrent
hazy girder
hoe can i get user badges in discord.js v11
sudden geyser
You can't I believe.
Nor should you be using Discord.js v11, as it'll stop working in October.
near ether
how can i avoid being rate limited?
solemn latch
dont go above the rate limit
blazing portal
weak charm
earnest phoenix
any api suggestions
sudden geyser
Can you be more specific please.
digital ibex
what type of api u looking for?
earnest phoenix
Can any experienced nodejs dev dm me
I have some ideas I'd like help implementing
hoary elm
There will be people in the Chat here willing to help you with setting it up we just aren’t gonna provide you the code to do it as all that does is teach you how to copy and paste someone else’s work.
earnest phoenix
I'm not asking for copy paste code
hoary elm
Then yes there is tons of people here who can help if you prefer private support that’s your choice all I’m saying is feel free to ask it here
earnest phoenix
What's the best way to do this
I'm paying servers to advertise the bot, whenever someone votes I want to give them a certain role, and I want to be able to change the guildid & roleid that the roles is given in easily, so I'd have to remove the onvote event and add it with the new variables.```are you even allowed to do that
earnest phoenix
Vote rewards are allowed yes
fast glen
As I know it isnt allowed
earnest phoenix
How's it not allowed..?
wicked pivot
hi, i wanted to separate some of my problem code is that it doesn't work
var config = require('./config/index')
config.initialize```
```js
var Cfonts = require('cfonts')
var config = {
initialize: async() => {
await Cfonts.say('Utter|Tools');
}
}
module.exports = config;```
lime stream
@🔥 Frazzen 🔥#7360 dlaczego przeklinasz. Why do you curse?
earnest phoenix
Reward users of your bot for voting.
Try to limit voting required commands to 2-3```
see“Another” bot which would mean your own bot is fine
fast glen
Oh sorry
earnest phoenix
Reposting for exposure
What's the best way to do this
I'm paying servers to advertise the bot, whenever someone votes I want to give them a certain role, and I want to be able to change the guildid & roleid that the roles is given in easily, so I'd have to remove the onvote event and add it with the new variables.```I don’t want to point you in the wrong direction but this might be API related support ^^
hoary elm
Right but it’s regarding the DBL API
earnest phoenix
My question is how I can add and remove events easily and reliably
100% not api question
hoary elm
fair enough
wicked pivot
solemn latch
you want to add remove events? like javascript events?
earnest phoenix
Yes
autumn aspen
Guys how do I fix a cooldown for my bot commands and stuff
like 3 seconds slowmode on a channel
solemn latch
like this? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/Events/Creating_and_triggering_events @earnest phoenix ?
earnest phoenix
Nodejs
solemn latch
events work in nodejs
earnest phoenix
ik
autumn aspen
like this? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/Events/Creating_and_triggering_events @earnest phoenix ?
@solemn latch thx
earnest phoenix
kk
autumn aspen
Also guys how can I split a message like this in vsc in a respond command
Hello!
Wassup
@solemn latch
spare mirage
@autumn aspen get patiente lol
autumn aspen
Ok
Also
Why not work?
ALso what the hell is the command for this lmao
need to fix this
spare mirage
copy paste 🤦♂️
autumn aspen
Welp
spare mirage
bruh
autumn aspen
copy paste 🤦♂️
@spare mirage Can u help
spare mirage
nah
autumn aspen
Alright if I delete the command then?
sudden geyser
Is there anything else above in the screenshot which may cause the command to not proceed further
or is the kick command just not doing anything
sudden geyser
you sure it's down
earnest phoenix
I think so
spare mirage
@earnest phoenix
earnest phoenix
my bot wont connect
spare mirage
its nobt
autumn aspen
rip
sudden geyser
Have you checked it's not an issue with your bot / host
spare mirage
idk
spare mirage
bruh
autumn aspen
I deleted one thing
spare mirage
why do u log everything?
slender thistle
^^^^
sudden geyser
yes two message events and for some reason you're exporting a run function in your index file
misty sigil
const Canvas = require("canvas")
async function welcome(name){
const canvas = Canvas.createCanvas(700, 250);
const ctx = canvas.getContext('2d');
const background = await Canvas.loadImage('./wallpaper.png');
ctx.drawImage(background, 0, 0, canvas.width, canvas.height);
ctx.strokeStyle = '#74037b';
ctx.strokeRect(0, 0, canvas.width, canvas.height);
// Slightly smaller text placed above the member's display name
ctx.font = '28px sans-serif';
ctx.fillStyle = '#ffffff';
ctx.fillText('Welcome to the server,', canvas.width / 2.5, canvas.height / 3.5);
// Add an exclamation point here and below
ctx.font = applyText(canvas, `${name}!`);
ctx.fillStyle = '#ffffff';
ctx.fillText(`${name}!`, canvas.width / 2.5, canvas.height / 1.8);
ctx.beginPath();
ctx.arc(125, 125, 100, 0, Math.PI * 2, true);
ctx.closePath();
ctx.clip();
const avatar = await Canvas.loadImage(message.member.user.displayAvatarURL({ format: 'jpg' }));
ctx.drawImage(avatar, 25, 25, 200, 200);
const attachment = new Discord.MessageAttachment(canvas.toBuffer(), 'welcome-image.png');
message.channel.send(`Welcome to the server, ${name}!`, attachment);
}
welcome("jeremy clarkson") ``` so im testing my canvas stuff and this doesn't send anything, can anyone tell me what the issue is?Welp
earnest phoenix
I regenerated token still dead
sudden geyser
yeah don't delete them
autumn aspen
Ok
sudden geyser
do you have a good understanding of JavaScript and Node.js
autumn aspen
Kinda
spare mirage
no
misty sigil
kinda
autumn aspen
lol
spare mirage
"kinda" - HoldFiZzT
🤦♂️
sudden geyser
Anyway you can't use that module.exports stuff decently if you want to store it in one file. You're better off using one single message listener with each command.
As for your kick command not doing anything, can you tell me your Discord.js version and can you upload your kick command (only that section of your code) to a site like hastebin
pure lion
Poob
autumn aspen
Anyway you can't use that module.exports stuff decently if you want to store it in one file. You're better off using one single message listener with each command.
As for your kick command not doing anything, can you tell me your Discord.js version and can you upload your kick command (only that section of your code) to a site like hastebin
@sudden geyser oh ok
spare mirage
194 ms is very low for an bot api xD
autumn aspen
Ok
spare mirage
I normally get 1600 ms
autumn aspen
Okno
autumn aspen
@sudden geyser can I create a kick.js file and put it there
wanna see
@spare mirageSURE
sudden geyser
You probably want to create a command handler.
autumn aspen
The kick command
You probably want to create a command handler.
@sudden geyser But can I put in botfile or what
How do I do that?
sudden geyser
what
spare mirage
let botping = message.createdAt - new Date()
let apiping = bot.ws.ping
``` why does my bot ping breakYou'd need to use the fs module to read a directory of files and load them together along with managing a collection of commands. There's a guide for it but if you don't know how Node.js's fs and module.exports works along with how it would dynamically work, it's like jumping into a big world with no context.
spare mirage
it goes into negatives
sudden geyser
Well you're trying to minus a message's createdAt date instance by the current date (which would logically be ahead of the createdAt date).
spare mirage
always worked :/
autumn aspen
Well you're trying to minus a message's
createdAtdate instance by the current date (which would logically be ahead of thecreatedAtdate).
@sudden geyser Can u help me with the kick command now pls
- If you know something, and someone asks a question about that thing, don't shit on them for asking. Either help them or stay quiet. If you don't have anything nice or helpful to say, keep quiet.
- This channel exists to help people. If you're not feeling helpful, your not wanted in this channel.
- Keep in mind that we started as beginners once, so be nice. Helping people helps us all. The more knowledgeable the development community as a whole is, the more we all benefit.
- Don't say random, un-helpful, unrelated jargon to try to make yourself sound smart, if anything it makes you look dumber.
- If you can't answer someone's question, don't try to extrapolate your knowledge from something else, you'll most likely confuse everyone involved.
- Don't ask to ask (eg. "can I ask a question"), this channel exists for questions, you don't need permission to ask one.
- Keep inside jokes in responses to a minimum, they're likely to confuse the person asking for help.
- No language/library wars, it makes everyone involved look like a dick.
Do not assume people haven't already Googled their problem. If they're asking here, they've likely already Googled their problem. Telling someone "google it" is run and unhelpful. This happend me earlier today. But some helped me
slender thistle
Lite explained the logic
slender thistle
You don't need to constantly mention someone when asking for help
autumn aspen
Sorry
Im to exited
ecxited
Broken english
ALso Im gonna nitro boost this server
wicked pivot
var config = {
menu = {
title = ' Choix'
}
}
module.exports = config;```in an export how can I recover the string?Wat
sudden geyser
are you using JavaScript, because that menu = { syntax does not look correct.
and @autumn aspen I explained the logic, but didn't give any actual code because making a command handler isn't something that takes 5-10 seconds. There are guides to this (such as discordjs.guide) if you need an example.
amber jetty
How exactly can I setup webhooks inside of my python bot?
I created a channel webhook for my support server and gave that link, but I am not sure what is the right way to do it
opal plank
you are defining config as a obj {}
objects are property sets, 'key':'value'
@wicked pivot
var is bad also, dont use it
const config = { /*this {} is an object*/
menu: { /*this is property 'menu' inside config obj*/
title: ' Choix' /* this is property title inside menu, inside config*/
}
}
that example of his is too basic to be spoonfeeding
wicked pivot
thx thx
I have another problem x)
I call a function in another function, how to make so that the continuation of the code is executed once the function call is done
async function call(){
await wait(1000)
await console.log("call ok")
}
async function this(){
await call()
await console.log('this ok')
}``` example
vernal basin
my heroku app says my bot has successfully deployed - however, the bot is not online
any reasons this could be happening?
slender thistle
What library
vernal basin
running the bot locally doesn't result in any errors
(discord.js)
zenith terrace
Yes u can but it be hard to get a server ID unless ur in it or ur bot logs joins
slender thistle
client.guilds
slender thistle
the guildCreate/join event for your library
pure lion
Oh ok ty
opal plank
@wicked pivot it should be fine to call functions inside other functions, though dont defined them inside eachother
another thing, for grammar syntax use Pascal for functions
slender thistle
JS uses camel case
quartz kindle
its just personal preference anyway lol
slender thistle
true
opal plank
its good to have standardized norms, specially when you ask for help outside
cant hurt to know, either
slender thistle
but really if you use some built-in functions that follow a certain case, it's kind of easier on eyes to follow it
quartz kindle
nah just name all your functions and vars and classes some random incremental value
lmao
slender thistle
opal plank
name them based on first letter
a {}
aa{}
ab{}
ac{}
makes debugging a hell lot easier(not)
slender thistle
You are muted for promoting violence because I'm getting triggered
quartz kindle
sometimes i name my vars x1 x2 x3
opal plank
lmao
funny enough im pretty sure discord uses that syntax for most of the stuff
lemme see if i can force a crash rq to produce a stack error
quartz kindle
on a discord library or discord itself?
quartz kindle
thats most likely because of babel + webpack
opal plank
indeed
didnt dig thru too much
but still the though of naming stuff with double letters is insanely triggering
quartz kindle
blame js compilers/transpilers
opal plank
might add that on my todo list to the ultimate trigger code
functional yet absurdly bad code
vernal basin
according to Heroku, my bot has been succesfully deployed, yet it is still offline. what step am I missing?
(nodejs)
opal plank
you are missing the step where you dont use heroku
cuz its not suppose to be used for bots
opal plank
cheap vps or run on a device you have laying around
mobile, old wii, anything works
there are vps's for $3
my bot for example is running on my old wii
installed linux on it and its good to go after some configs
vernal basin
looking for something that doesn't cost money because I'm just doing something casual but I still need it to be online consistently
opal plank
if you dont want to pay you either can do what i said and repurpose an old device to run it or ask someone to do it
apart from that, cheap vps are the way to go
heroku and glitch are agressively removing bots from their platforms
vernal basin
why
opal plank
neither of them are platforms to host bots on, its mainly websites
vernal basin
anything more intuitive to use that wouldn't be too complicated?
opal plank
running on your old phone or pc. Unless its a massive bot, it shouldnt use more than 500mb of ram for a good 100-200 guilds
vernal basin
I don't want something that relies on my internet though, as it's really unstable
opal plank
then either convince someone to host it for you, or spend $3 a month
autumn aspen
with my custom bot
vernal basin
unless I'm completely misunderstanding and Heroku requires my internet?
autumn aspen
thats gonna do everything
restive willow
running on your old phone or pc. Unless its a massive bot, it shouldnt use more than 500mb of ram for a good 100-200 guilds
@opal plank I use 600mb at 3000 guilds, it's really not too bad
opal plank
^^
autumn aspen
I alrdy made kick ban purge slowmode cooldown things
quartz kindle
600mb jesus
opal plank
support here @autumn aspen, brag elsewhere
autumn aspen
Oh
autumn aspen
srry
vernal basin
maybe think before you "tf lmao" someone
earnest phoenix
imagine bragging about making generic bot features 
opal plank
@vernal basin heroku host it on itself, though your bot will likely go down on it, as they are removing bots from their platform
spare mirage
I alrdy made kick ban purge slowmode cooldown things
@autumn aspen did u make them?
vernal basin
okay I'd still like to get it running, even if it iwll get taken down, as like a training thing?
autumn aspen
No lol I put them in the vsc
vernal basin
to like learn how to do this in the future
restive willow
id say heroku is fine to host on at least temporarily, I've never had a bot removed
earnest phoenix
heroku host it on itself, though your bot will likely go down on it, as they are removing bots from their platform
this, both heroku and glitch have made statements that they're removing / banning projects that use uptimer bots
autumn aspen
So good that my is online and 100% working
earnest phoenix
the statement was made recently
slender thistle
Heroku just restarts every like 24 hours
vernal basin
that's fine honestly
spare mirage
Whats the best vps for discord bot hosting?
slender thistle
you don't need an uptimer bot for it
opal plank
@vernal basin heroku ISNT meant for bot hosting, its for websites. They go on stasis when there arent cnnections/traffic incoming, meaning your bot stops working after a while. Some people use uptime bots to keep constantly pinging the bot to keep it alive
spare mirage
and cheap
Whats the best vps for discord bot hosting?
vernal basin
oh i see hm
solemn latch
i like galaxygate @spare mirage
vernal basin
so it won't be better than my internet
opal plank
you should NOT use glitch NOR heroku for bot hosting
spare mirage
hmm
solemn latch
$3 a month for 1gb of ram and 1vcpu
autumn aspen
Guys this is a command right?
opal plank
there are free f1 google cloud things too iirc
i dont remember who told me about it tho
maybe it was Woo
solemn latch
we never tested it erwin
quartz kindle
google compute engine and amazon aws have free trials for 1 year each
spare mirage
shii 8permonth
quartz kindle
plus google has the free forever f1-micro yes
earnest phoenix
Guys this is a command right?
@autumn aspen no
opal plank
there you have it
autumn aspen
@autumn aspen no
@earnest phoenix What is wrong then?
restive willow
aws threw an absolute fit for me when trying to get my bot on there
slender thistle
it's an event
earnest phoenix
@autumn aspen you're using ' and ${member} :D?
i was fine with them, my bot grew to 1.5k on the aws free trial
autumn aspen
oh
opal plank
usually commands are based of message event
autumn aspen
i was fine with them, my bot grew to 1.5k on the aws free trial
@earnest phoenix WHat should I change then?
earnest phoenix
what
slender thistle
Did you quote the wrong message
restive willow
I'll be honest I'm stil l using heroku at 3k
opal plank
im confused
autumn aspen
I'll be honest I'm stil l using heroku at 3k
@restive willow lol
quartz kindle
i was using google's f1-micro until like 1k
vernal basin
okay I'm going to backtrack this then, is there a way to launch my bot even if my computer can't connect to discord? (i.e. is there a way for me to launch my bot while on internet connections that block discord?)
spare mirage
how much ram do u want for a discord bot to not lag on?
autumn aspen
GUys tell me what wrong
opal plank
problem with me doing that is the IPC tim, otherwise i would
spare mirage
not*
restive willow
like formula 1 racing, just smaller
vernal basin
@autumn aspen use ` not '
opal plank
i cant open ports to get a server listening to outside events
opal plank
stuck with local only
earnest phoenix
okay I'm going to backtrack this then, is there a way to launch my bot even if my computer can't connect to discord? (i.e. is there a way for me to launch my bot while on internet connections that block discord?)
@vernal basin your best bet is to use a VPN or a proxy
vernal basin
okay
autumn aspen
@autumn aspen use ` not '
@vernal basin where
vernal basin
any recommendations for free proxies?
restive willow
okay I'm going to backtrack this then, is there a way to launch my bot even if my computer can't connect to discord? (i.e. is there a way for me to launch my bot while on internet connections that block discord?)
@vernal basin I mean yeah, hosting
earnest phoenix
you probably don't want to use free proxies
vernal basin
yeah I tried hosting but apparently heroku doesn't like that
earnest phoenix
they sniff your data
sudden geyser
How could I combine multiple float-point precisions in one string? By it, I mean stuff like %.2f and %g
autumn aspen
yeah I tried hosting but apparently heroku doesn't like that
@vernal basin where am I gonna replace it?
vernal basin
stop spampinging me
quartz kindle
a discord bot's memory usage varies tremendously by which libraries you use, how much you optimize it and what your bot actually needs to work, besides how many guilds it has of course
vernal basin
I'm not going to spoonfeed you code
i told you what to replace, you have to figure out how to replace it
quartz kindle
a bot in a couple thousand of guilds can use 100mb or 2gb lol
autumn aspen
Yes but there in the command the ${member} one?
opal plank
20 mil users in 8gb, thats best ive seen so far
earnest phoenix
play with your code
vernal basin
there's literally only 1 spot you could replace it
restive willow
holy shit galaxygate is cheap
vernal basin
just edit something
earnest phoenix
why are you afraid to experiment and try and see the result
autumn aspen
Ok
earnest phoenix
programming is all about resolving logical problems in whichever way you want
just try and see
vernal basin
if it's wrong, and you don't edit it, it will still be wrong
your code is not a subatomic particle
quartz kindle
20 million users in 8mb is not possible, unless you mean 20 million total count and 0 users cached
autumn aspen
oh ok
opal plank
8gb*
restive willow
personally my code actually is a subatomic particle
opal plank
sharon accomplished that with deno lib
spare mirage
@restive willow xD cheap
vernal basin
oml
opal plank
cached 20m users in 8gb of ram
vernal basin
okay search up how to use ` in javascript
quartz kindle
8gb makes more sense
slender thistle
You need to change the string where you use ${member} to a template string
autumn aspen
okay search up how to use ` in javascript
@vernal basin Dude I can I have a JavaScripted bot
oh
earnest phoenix
hold, consider reading this https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/258206/what-is-a-help-vampire
autumn aspen
thx
vernal basin
ffs
opal plank
8gb for 20 million users cached is still a big as accomplishment
vernal basin
use brain pls
earnest phoenix
help vampirism is discouraged here
solemn latch
@spare mirage thats 4gb of ram
you can have them for $3 a month
vernal basin
okay, so I'm currently using protonVPN - it works running locally, the issue is that the bot will just stop operating randomly
like the proccess won't even stop
it will just not respond to anything
and after a few minutes the bot will go offline
earnest phoenix
deadlock?
vernal basin
what's that
earnest phoenix
google it
autumn aspen
like this?
vernal basin
erm no I don't have anything that awaits anything else
earnest phoenix
vernal basin
@autumn aspen literally just use ` instead of '
opal plank
@autumn aspen https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_intro.asp
vernal basin
you replaced { not '
slender thistle
aw I was late
opal plank
jokes aside, check the last link @autumn aspen
vernal basin
is it an internet problem, if my bot loses connection for a second, will it just terminate?
well not terminate, just die, rather?
opal plank
you should really at least skim thru the js docs before doing a bot
both js docs and lib docs
autumn aspen
thx
vernal basin
._.
vernal basin
congrats
opal plank
petition to copy the rules from stack overflow over to #development but replacing stackoverflow to this channel
http://rlemon.github.io/so-chat-javascript-rules/#asking
sudden geyser
javascript
autumn aspen
yeah my bot is javascripted
@sudden geyser can I put the kick commands in index.js as I did?
autumn aspen
yeah
opal plank
autumn aspen
command handling
@opal plank can I create one?
opal plank
read guide above
coral flume
sudden geyser
Hold you should learn more JavaScript before attempting to make a command hanndler.
opal plank
that too ^^
autumn aspen
yeah
opal plank
otherwise you'd be copying over what the guide shows
the guide assumes you know js beforehand
autumn aspen
But look I dont get it shall I make a command handler or is it alrdy there?
Just pls help at least with that
slender thistle
There's probably one on the Internet laying around
but in order to easily apply it to YOUR bot, you should get hang of JS first
autumn aspen
There's probably one on the Internet laying around
@slender thistle Is the command handler alrdy in VSC or what?
slender thistle
VSC is a code editor
strange trout
What
slender thistle
You edit files with it
autumn aspen
oh
opal plank
commando might be your best bet, though i recommend the guide
quartz kindle
a command handler is a simple piece of code that does the following:
- read all files in a folder
- require each file found and put it somewhere
- when you receive a message, check if command exists somewhere
- if it does, execute the command
sudden geyser
commando cringe
autumn aspen
Guys but where can I find the command handler or where do I write it??
opal plank
though for starters it might be a good solution
quartz kindle
pretty much everyone writes their own handlers
autumn aspen
Pls dont be hard
strange trout
I use a custom version of discord-akairo
opal plank
you dont 'get it', you make one
quartz kindle
just follow the steps i showed above, one by one
autumn aspen
Thx
quartz kindle
and try to write code that does that
opal plank
autumn aspen
@opal plank
autumn aspen
ok
slender thistle
out of all the messages you only saw the ones that said "it's on the internet"
quartz kindle
^
strange trout
^^
earnest phoenix
^^^^
pure lion
^^^^^^^^
slender thistle
not a rule but rather to add it to list of advised things
quartz kindle
put it in the faq
opal plank
^
strange trout
Post it here and pin it
pure lion
Can we pin the dontasktoask link
opal plank
having it on rules or somewhere at least let us mini mod our way thru it to prevent people from coming here with 0 knowledge
the only thing rule says is spoon feeding
problem isnt that they dont know, is that they refuse to learn. Its a constant cycle of coming back and fourth between 'okay, how do i do this now?'
'it no work'
'here error, fix'
slender thistle
which will be punished accordingly if it keeps on going
opal plank
we usually point out the guides but it gets on the same vicious cycle where we are stuck with ignoring it
Everyone starts somewhere and asking questions is smart. Do not attack people for not knowing how to code. Point them to great learning sources and help them with problems.
However, you shouldn’t just give them finished code because then they only learn to copy more.
b. If you are a beginner, have a will to learn and do not expect to be spoon-fed.```
stuff like this is rather strict on when it can be applied
```Show effort: We really like to see that you are trying to achieve your goals on your own first.
Be ready to be wrong: Often we suggest you take a new approach.
Don't ask for help before doing the research yourself: If my google search returns your answer in the first three links, you are doing it wrong.
When given resources to learn, use them. We do not like repeating ourselves.
Do not beg for help: If you have asked once and we ignore you then move on.
Contribute to the community: We like to help people who also like to help people, it's pretty simple.
Don't ask for code: Pseudo code is more than helpful and will set you on your way.
Ask for help finding the answer, do not ask for the answer: we are not here to do your work.
stuff like this at least added ontop should help a bit
of course, thats just me copying the rules over, but it gives a general sense of what im trying to say
proven lantern
im trying to get the initial creation time of my bot. im using fetchApplication to try to get the app's data, but i get an error
Request to use token, but token was unavailable to the client.
https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/Client?scrollTo=fetchApplication
https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/ClientApplication?scrollTo=createdTimestamp
spare mirage
refrsh token
Why dont we have an message pinged with link that "teach" u how to learn a coding language
autumn aspen
Guys Im better then thos that made Windows
spare mirage
autumn aspen
oops'
spare mirage
thats a political argument lmao
proven lantern
@spare mirage my token is valid
proven lantern
console.log(app.createdTimestamp)```hmm
proven lantern
does that fetchApplication function work for you?
spare mirage
I can try
proven lantern
if you dont have support for the await keyword you can use this instead client.fetchApplication().then(app=>console.log(app.createdTimestamp));
client is new Discord.Client()
quartz kindle
is the client logged in?
proven lantern
oh, i might be doing that before the login finishes
torn ravine
does anyone know a good module to get stats?
proven lantern
yeah
pure lion
@torn ravine stats of...?
torn ravine
like memory, cpu usage, etc
pure lion
Oh
spare mirage
1593248817455 this is what my console logs
pure lion
.toLocaleTimeString
spare mirage
@proven lantern
pure lion
I can't remember spelling
spare mirage
was dat @pure lion
pure lion
Uh
spare mirage
what does that number mean
opal plank
the timestamp
spare mirage
how do I convert it into a date xD
summer torrent
@torn ravine os-utils
proven lantern
@quartz kindle that did the trick. thanks
earnest phoenix
Is there an free hosting for the discord.py bot?
pure lion
There's free hosting for any bot
proven lantern
@spare mirage thanks for checking. i was trying to call that function before my bot finished logging in
spare mirage
heroku
pure lion
GliTch (pay)
proven lantern
@earnest phoenix you can host the bot on your computer
opal plank
dont use glitch either
earnest phoenix
Heroku can't run code of 5 mb
pure lion
Buy a server boi
opal plank
host it on an old device you have laying around
spare mirage
makes me wanna throw up
pure lion
Host on a server boi
earnest phoenix
@earnest phoenix you can host the bot on your computer
@proven lantern I don't have turned on pc 24/7
opal plank
old phone, wii, old pc, whatever you got
quartz kindle
heroku cant run code of 5mb? wtf
opal plank
Jake even hosted a bot on a fridge
earnest phoenix
Host on a server boi
@pure lion What server?
opal plank
smart fridge bot hosting
pure lion
old phone, wii, old pc, whatever you got
Teach me the ways of the wii
strange trout
You shouldn't use Heroku or Glitch to host bots
spare mirage
ye spls
earnest phoenix
But heroku don't work
spare mirage
imma use my wii
opal plank
@pure lion https://wiibrew.org/wiki/Wii-Linux
spare mirage
and run it on COW
pure lion
Ty
spare mirage
wait what
earnest phoenix
It just work if code is ```print("hello")
What is wii
spare mirage
no u didnt
opal plank
that old white thinng you have getting dust
earnest phoenix
I don't have
spare mirage
@earnest phoenix wow imagine not knnowing what a wii is
strange trout
I'd recommend using a Raspberry Pi if you can't afford monthly fees
opal plank
anything you have laying around?
quartz kindle
anyways @earnest phoenix
free trial: google compute engine (1 year), amazon aws (1 year)
free forever: google f1-micro, heroku/glitch/repl.it
paid: a billion vps hosting providers starting from as little as $2.5 per month
spare mirage
@strange trout raspberries suck for music
earnest phoenix
Ok tim ty
pure lion
I have a raspberry
strange trout
Get an Intel NUC then
spare mirage
Maybe my dad has something great
earnest phoenix
I just need hosting (not require credit card, pay.., ...)
spare mirage
idk
strange trout
Or a Dell OptiPlex
stark abyss
use pingign service
earnest phoenix
glitch
@earnest phoenix can't run python i think
stark abyss
like freshworks
stark abyss
pinging service - freshworks, uptimerobot, statuscake
they are free
it basically pings your vps so it stays alive
glitch doesn't allow it anymore
quartz kindle
all three of them can run python, but all three of them auto-sleep after inactivity, so you will need one of those pinger workarounds anyway
earnest phoenix
statuscake and freshworks don't know what is
strange trout
If you're a college student or have a school ID sign up for GitHub Student Dev pack. You get $50 credit to Digital Ocean as a perk
earnest phoenix
If you're a college student or have a school ID student sign up for GitHub Student Dev pack. You get $50 credit to Digital Ocean as a perk
@strange trout i am not
earnest phoenix
freshworks is really good
@stark abyss i will try wait
stark abyss
hm?
quartz kindle
because people want something 100% free that doesnt ask for credit card on account creation
afaik those 3 are the only options
earnest phoenix
because people want something 100% free that doesnt ask for credit card on account creation
@quartz kindle ok
strange trout
VSC is a text editor
tough bay
I have a raspberry
@pure lion same
spare mirage
Just run it on ur main pc then
earnest phoenix
strange trout
They run pretty good for small bots
tulip ledge
I'm experimenting with awaitMessage but it's not working
const filter = response => {
return message.author.id === response.author.id;
};
message.channel.awaitMessages(filter, { max: 1, time: 30000, errors: ['time'] })
.then(collected => {
if(collected.first() === "diamond") message.channel.send("true")
})
.catch(collected => {
message.channel.send('Looks like nobody got the answer this time.');
});
Any idea why?
earnest phoenix
.content
spare mirage
trivia command?
tulip ledge
.content where? collected.first?
earnest phoenix
collected.first().content
strange trout
That's because collected.first() returns the entire message by the way
spare mirage
hmm
strange trout
@earnest phoenix google it
spare mirage
im thinking... Do people sit here in this channel
and
not saying anything
to get free code
?
spare mirage
@earnest phoenix nothing wrong with trying
opal plank
dont
spare mirage
whats uptimerobot
opal plank
usually those limits are in place to limit abuse of their api uncessarily
opal plank
it keeps pinging your bot so it has incoming traffic and doesnt go idle
strange trout
Don't use any of those services to host your bot
earnest phoenix
why
strange trout
Host it at home or get a cheap VPS
opal plank
the fact that you need an uptimer means the platform isnt meant for bots
opal plank
Google cloud f1 micro
aws trial(1 year)
@earnest phoenix
earnest phoenix
or use danbot
Google cloud f1 micro require credit card?
or use danbot
@earnest phoenix what?
ok then dont use danbot hosting
strange trout
DanBot sounds sketchy
quartz kindle
i googled "danbot hosting" and didnt find anything lol
strange trout
Same
sudden geyser
what is danbot
sudden geyser
yikes
spare mirage
that looks like something stealing ur account or token tbh
earnest phoenix
i have 3 servers
opal plank
sounds sketchy af
earnest phoenix
¯_(ツ)_/¯
strange trout
Cool effects on their website but still sketch
earnest phoenix
im not forcing yall to do anything
spare mirage
Cool effects on their website but still sketch
@strange trout lmao
earnest phoenix
its pterodactyl panel lmao
quartz kindle
i cant find any information on danbot hosting, the link you posted is for the admin panel login
tulip ledge
switch (collected.first().content.toLowerCase()) {
case "rocks":
chosen = "rocks"
break;
case "iron":
chosen = "iron"
break;
case "diamond":
chosen = "diamond"
break;
default:
return message.channel.send(`This isn't a viable option.`)
Why is this returning to the default?
quartz kindle
where do you find hosting plans, prices, resources, etc?
tulip ledge
When I log collected.first().content.toLowerCase() it equals rocks
spare mirage
@quartz kindle danbot is "free"
spare mirage
anyone wanna make an alt and try
opal plank
only 22 clients/users?
earnest phoenix
online
opal plank
either really new project or really sketchy
earnest phoenix
https://hosting.danbot.xyz/auth/login how to sign up?
tulip ledge
anyone knows my issue?
earnest phoenix
you sign up in the discord
quartz kindle
i dont wanna join their discord just to see prices/plans lol
strange trout
It's ultra sketch lol
quartz kindle
how much ram is the free one?
tulip ledge
anyone knows my issue?
strange trout
Sec Dev
spare mirage
still sketchy
honest perch
Just buy a vps
earnest phoenix
i will try
opal plank
looks too good to be fake, though i still have my doubts
spare mirage
I bet they use ur information/code
opal plank
no, im aware
not blaming it on you or saying you're sketchy
its the fact that no one here knew about it before hand
earnest phoenix
opal plank
so its likely knew or something
strange trout
Nah, there's other services exactly like that
earnest phoenix
if you are trying to run a website there, he will even set up a reverse proxy
did u read #getting-started?
spare mirage
this is about to become advertising lol
spare mirage
NO
tulip ledge
Ok I'll go do if else stacking if no one knows my issue then
I try to be fancy for once lol
strange trout
Can you share more code?
quartz kindle
i just want to know how much ram it gives you lol
strange trout
Can't really tell from what you shared, Chicken
earnest phoenix
5gb
quartz kindle
your code looks correct chicken
spare mirage
thats obviously lied
quartz kindle
@earnest phoenix thats not ram
earnest phoenix
no its not
chilly bison
glitch is good
earnest phoenix
yes storage is 5gb but so is ram
spare mirage
thats imposibble
earnest phoenix
it only uses as much as it needs to until it hits 6gb
quartz kindle
pretty sure its not
chilly bison
Glitch boosted projects is good
strange trout
You can also use object literals Chicken
earnest phoenix
DanBot hosting is ||shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit||!!!
warm marsh
It's cheaper to buy a VPS instead of buying "Glitch boosts"
warm marsh
You can do the exact same on Linux VPS
quartz kindle
6gb ram is a lot, noway anyone would offer that for free
warm marsh
Just requires more setup.
chilly bison
@earnest phoenix you can run python on glitch
earnest phoenix
there
strange trout
Okay I think it's sketchy but calling it sh*t because you don't know how to sign up is kind of dumb 
earnest phoenix
really
he is a human too ya know
Okay I think it's sketchy but calling it sh*t because you don't know how to sign up is kind of dumb
@strange trout This ||sht|| work?
u have to make a ticket and wait for him to create you a server
strange trout
6gb of ram is an insane amount to give out for free
earnest phoenix
theres not to many people using it
quartz kindle
im pretty sure its shared ram
quartz kindle
so what happens if one bot starts using too much ram? does he remove it?
chilly bison
and it's great
earnest phoenix
no
warm marsh
A VPS can be bought for ~3 dollars
earnest phoenix
i use about 200-400
chilly bison
then they are obligated not to sell your info
earnest phoenix
im perfectly fine
tulip ledge
let pembed = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
.setTitle(`Item`)
.addField(`You picked ${chosen.toUpperCase()}`)
msg.edit(pembed)
Where did the undefined come from?
chilly bison
they do stuff with your code
strange trout
No value
tulip ledge
It's late ok
tulip ledge
no fixed already
earnest phoenix
i dont think my bot will even begin the process of getting added to the list
quartz kindle
why lol
rotund belfry
Hello (:
strange trout
hi
opal plank
list in top.gg or that danbot thing?
cuz if its here, you'd be surprised how many copy pasted bots are here
chilly bison
@opal plank have you seen the amount of bad bots in the new section?
opal plank
i stopped looking, it gave me a headache just looking at the bots with 4 basic commands as their whole content getting added
strange trout
They're all the same
strange trout
ping, say, mute, ban, kick, help
opal plank
nothing wrong with that, its just scary to see how easily it can get added
strange trout
oop double ping
opal plank
the only reason i see why you'd use it here is to get a decent idea of ram usage and networking, since it has 100k users and its a good sample to check your stability
strange trout
I've been working on my bot for a year and I still think I should have waited to add it
opal plank
i asked DAPI and a couple other big servers to see if i could stress out my bot by doing some very intensive loop commands between all users and see how well my network config and bot would handle
quartz kindle
most people have no idea what this server alone does to their bots
quartz kindle
lmao
opal plank
im still amazed WanKill didnt manage to provide an accurate enough traffic to stree my gigabit network
but Discord api managed to get me a fuck ton of stress
quartz kindle
looping through members/users is something that should be avoided at all costs, since there no way to do it without caching all of them and skyrocketing your ram
opal plank
all the real time updates and presences did a number
that was the whole point of it
stress testing if the config was stable enough to be run on bigger servers
was using redis/postgres to cache every user obj in a call for each column, then fetching more from the api for public flags with a ratelimit in place
couldnt figure out a way to cause more stress than that locally
im open to suggestions
opal plank
180k users with multiple db calls and api calls
then dropping the data tables
not interested in keeping all that data, its just for stress test
quartz kindle
interesting
did you measure the different stages separately? ie time for download, time for insert, etc
opal plank
that i did not, but could be interesting to check
see where the biggest hopld is, though im sure it was the queries to check duplicates
quartz kindle
it takes about 15 seconds to download 100k members on my vps
opal plank
to download, yes, but parsing all that data took a lot of time time
specially cuz i purposefully inserted each member with 8 different database calls
one for each column
quartz kindle
lmao
makes sense then
but doesnt that make it more of a database stress test than a network test?
opal plank
both local and network
some of those calls required public flags and such which im doing with axios for requests
so there was a lot of traffic going in and out
quartz kindle
like fetching flags for each separate member?
opal plank
yup
im unsure if there are other better options to stress test the whole bot environment other than that
network/memory/database all at once
pseudo garnet
If i wanted to hire someone to code a discord bot to run a league through crowd funding for a e-sports video game... the idea would be people would !join a ranked match and the bot would have matchmaking capabilities and basically run an MMR system through a chat bot is this a good place to talk about that?
quartz kindle
lucky discord doesnt seem to have rate limits on GET requests to users/members lmao
quartz kindle
@pseudo garnet i dont think this is the right place, but i could be wrong
opal plank
i dont think chunk works for public user info
pseudo garnet
Hey no worries I am just probing around I am not sure if this type of thing exists already for other games
but basically i know a community that would easily crowd fund that sort of thing
opal plank
This is for development, there are some servers which are purposefully for that. Though #bids might help you
quartz kindle
i've seen a few tournament/matchmaking bots, but never used one
opal plank
im unsure how bids work here
pseudo garnet
thanks for the info!
opal plank
there might be some pre made bots that do exactly what you wish
pseudo garnet
yea thats what im wondering
it seems bots have evolved a ton recently
so i think i can complete my quest somehow 🙂
opal plank
agreed
pseudo garnet
we realize we are all bots
quartz kindle
beep boop
opal plank
pong!
pseudo garnet
🙂
quartz kindle
btw erwin, which lib did you use for your test?
opal plank
d.js
opal plank
unmodified, though i should do some upgrades
quartz kindle
im running some benchmarks on some js libs
quartz kindle
the only reason im not moving to it is that i already spent way too much time on djs-light
not gonna give up on it now
strange trout
You developed discord.js-light right?
opal plank
the problem with my bot is that its multi purpose, so its a project that doesnt end
quartz kindle
ye
strange trout
Is it easy to move from d.js?
quartz kindle
depends what your bot does
strange trout
It does what's on my status
pure lion
Fuck it I'm gonna make a package that automatically adds 100 commands so nobody has to waste their time making the functions of literally every other bot
quartz kindle
shouldnt be hard then
quartz kindle
lmao
pure lion
Oh I know I'll make a discord.js wrapper
quartz kindle
i use np to publish
quartz kindle
lmao
opal plank
im usually against the idea of that pre-made commands
quartz kindle
there are always two sides
pure lion
Fine I'll just dumb down the API even more than light
opal plank
with the amount of bots out there, its simply wasteful to keep making repetitive stuff without any uniqueness
quartz kindle
its simultaneously a good thing and a bad thing about the whole npm ecosystem
opal plank
only reason i'd see is when customization isnt an option nor hosting
quartz kindle
there are countless copies of the same thing out there, nobody knows anymore whats good and what isnt
opal plank
^^
pure lion
Okay but for real
quartz kindle
so nobody trusts anything anymore, and everyone just makes their own copy, which further increases the problem lmao
pure lion
What does a package have to achieve, and how would it do so?
strange trout
First write the commands lol
opal plank
writing modules is annoying
pure lion
Say I wanted to add features to djs, make it simpler
Simpler-er
You know what I mean
opal plank
Tim might give you a better insight, im not at libdev level yet of proficiency
quartz kindle
step 1: run npm init in some folder and fill it up with your package info
step 2: install required modules
step 3: write your code in one or multiple files, and export something from your main file
step 4: require your package in some other project/folder
pure lion
Alright
So pacc is written in js, but do I need to have deeper knowledge? What would I need to learn about?
quartz kindle
pacc?
opal plank
if you are going to modify, you should have a really good understanding of general js. Though for a lib dev, you prob need to be very proficient
strange trout
Look at the source code of packages so you can see how they structure everything