It now has cb or -!-
#development
tulip ledge
delicate shore
boeing
lusty quest
@earnest phoenix ```javascript
dbl.on('posted', () => {
console.log('Server count posted!');
})
dbl.on('error', e => {
console.log(Oops! ${e});
})
restive pebble
Now ping a mod md tell
solemn latch
Contact a mod @tulip ledge
lyric mountain
@delicate shore just gave u the answer
tulip ledge
Most have DM's disabled
delicate shore
@delicate shore just gave u the answer
@lyric mountain ?
?
lyric mountain
solemn latch
@earnest phoenix
restive pebble
U need to put it inside a event listener @earnest phoenix guildCreate the code superbrain8 saent
solemn latch
Chicken changed his bot prefix
restive pebble
New mod kek
solemn latch
He wants common prefix removed
solemn latch
Yikes
restive pebble
New
lusty quest
@restive pebble i would use it in the mainfile
restive pebble
Hmmmm
earnest phoenix
I'm going to learn the bot stuff after my vacation
lusty quest
had some issues using it in a event listender
restive pebble
Ya ya
tulip ledge
Are we allowed to ping mods?
restive pebble
Wait my bad
lyric mountain
Are we allowed to ping mods?
@tulip ledge yesn't
tulip ledge
??
restive pebble
Not to u
lyric mountain
can you? yes
should you? probably not unless necessary
earnest phoenix
Are we allowed to ping mods?
@tulip ledge if it's a good reason
but not all of them
restive pebble
hello auric
earnest phoenix
hi boeing
solemn latch
I pinged Ardy because trial mods need experience 🤔
Didn't know she wasn't taught that stuff yet
restive pebble
Is there any other way of changing the npm js profile becuz my gravatar is in use in some other place and I don't want it to be in my npm profile
No ig
lyric mountain
js profile?
restive pebble
Npmjs
pale vessel
npmjs
pure lion
Hello there
earnest phoenix
imma need a spoon feed 😦
earnest phoenix
😭
earnest phoenix
fast yacht
restive pebble
earnest phoenix
just please this is the only one ;-;
lyric mountain
no
restive pebble
Spoonfeed will not happen nywhere
lyric mountain
never is
tulip ledge
Dude
earnest phoenix
😭 😭 😦 😦
lusty quest
you could pay someone to do it on Fiver or Freelancer
tulip ledge
Just read the docs ffs
tulip ledge
clearly not good enough then
earnest phoenix
AND I FIND NOTHING
lyric mountain
what I can do, is give you the spoon to feed yourself https://mongodb.github.io/node-mongodb-native/2.2/tutorials/crud/
pure lion
LISTEN YEAH
lusty quest
to be fair the MongoDB docs are not that easy to understand if you have no idea about it
earnest phoenix
i dont understand this shit
restive pebble
what I can do, is give you the spoon to feed yourself https://mongodb.github.io/node-mongodb-native/2.2/tutorials/crud/
@lyric mountain
pure lion
It's funny because I learnt how to js through the djs docs
restive pebble
Lmao
pure lion
Jajajajajaja
restive pebble
Bruh
lusty quest
in my opinion the js docs are better structured than the MongoDB docs
tulip ledge
Same
fast yacht
@earnest phoenix
I see you're using DiscordJS.
Seriously. go and look at https://discordjs.guide/
It's the best guide if you're new to javascript
tulip ledge
But not only djs docs
earnest phoenix
this isnt helping just please help
lyric mountain
we are helping
tulip ledge
We already told u how to do it
fast yacht
We are helping. You're just not seing it
tulip ledge
Now you come to ask for spoonfeed
pure lion
*loud js-ing*
lyric mountain
but instead you're wanting to eat soup with a fork
tulip ledge
If you don't know how to do what we told
Learn js and mongo first
Before asking for help
earnest phoenix
no
fast yacht
..
pure lion
Yes
restive pebble
Asking for spoonfeed bad
tulip ledge
Yes
solemn latch
Honestly, I dont know mongo db, but I found an example of how to do what you want in 30 seconds on the mongo db docs site
lusty quest
i can send you a YT series for a D.js bot that uses a MongoDB for data storage, its well made and the bot is on github
solemn latch
Its literally on the home page
restive pebble
someone who is not willing to try to figure it out himself
tulip ledge
me neither woo but i's just logic
pure lion
The spoon is made of gallium so it's going to melt
lyric mountain
its well made and the bot is on github
uh oh, you do know what that implies, right?
earnest phoenix
i looked at the link and i find NOTIHNG
pure lion
Is your fridge running?
lusty quest
i know but i think he will not get it without
earnest phoenix
Is your fridge running?
@pure lion tf
pure lion
Is the ethernet cable plugged in?
fast yacht
:p
tulip ledge
Is your mouse plugged in?
lusty quest
@earnest phoenix the rules here doesnt allow Spoonfeeding, if you have an issue with it you maybe can get someone on Fiverr or Freelancer to do it for you (you need to pay)
tulip ledge
keyboard?
earnest phoenix
BRUH I HAVE WIRELESS INTERNET AND ITS A LAPTOP NOT A MONITOR
pure lion
Is your brain plugged in?
restive pebble
Wow
fast yacht
@earnest phoenix What size your shoes currently?
restive pebble
Nice jokes
tulip ledge
jk ❤️
lyric mountain
ok ok, enough poking
lusty quest
i suggest stopping here with this crap
earnest phoenix
@earnest phoenix What size your shoes currently?
@fast yacht OK STFU NOW JUST STFU
pure lion
Yeah fr learn the docs
restive pebble
What is thelogic twith shoes size
lyric mountain
@earnest phoenix you need to read the docs to learn how to handle CRUD operations on MongoDB
earnest phoenix
IM NOT WEARING ANY BRO
restive pebble
Auto correct not working
earnest phoenix
tf?
pure lion
/hmm
solemn latch
Its on the main page
lyric mountain
if you don't understand MongoDB I suggest learning SQL-base DBs first
earnest phoenix
i dont understand this
solemn latch
The docs have examples of how to use them
tulip ledge
Your solution is on the main page
tulip ledge
Please dont copy paste examples
pure lion
It's not gonna work
tulip ledge
Thats just bad and I speak from experience lmao
solemn latch
If you need help understanding a part of the examples, we can help with thar
If you can't understand the examples at all, we can't help with that
pure lion
But we're not going to show you how to do everything
earnest phoenix
where do i put findeOneAndUpdate in ```js
const Discord = require("discord.js")
module.exports = {
name: "work",
aliases: ["w"],
category: "Currency",
run: async (bot, message, args, err) => {
const money = await bot.db.collection("Money").findOne({u_id: message.author.id})
if (err) console.log(err);
const random = Math.floor(Math.random() * 100);
if (!money) {
await bot.db.collection("Money").updateOne({"u_id": message.author.id}, {$set: {money: 0 + random}}, {upsert: true})
} else {
await bot.db.collection("Money").updateOne({"u_id": message.author.id}, {$set: {money: random}}, {upsert: true})
.catch(err => console.log(err));
};
}
}
Hell, i don't know mongo dB and I bet you I could go and read and interpret the docs right now
solemn latch
You need to understand your own code to understand where to put it
lyric mountain
@earnest phoenix do you know what findOneAndUpdate stands for?
tulip ledge
Why that e?
pure lion
Does it delete it?
tulip ledge
pure lion
Nooo
tulip ledge
Pesky e
pure lion
It updates it
earnest phoenix
@earnest phoenix do you know what
findeOneAndUpdatestands for?
@lyric mountain nope
lyric mountain
do you know english?
solemn latch
Yikes
lyric mountain
what does those words mean?
earnest phoenix
right imma quit deving
tulip ledge
Turn it of lmao
restive pebble
Hmmmm
lyric mountain
just tell me
pure lion
Look for one value and then change it to a new one oWo
restive pebble
Why lol
lyric mountain
what does those words mean?
tulip ledge
Alright good luck!
restive pebble
Good luck bro
lyric mountain
findOneAndUpdate what does those words suggest?
tulip ledge
Dont bother
lyric mountain
it finds one, and...?
tulip ledge
He already quit
pure lion
I think it deletes the GitHub repo
solemn latch
Poor guy
pure lion
:sad:
tulip ledge
:sad:
earnest phoenix
BRUH I FUCKING TRY FINDONEANDUPDATE AND IT DOESNT WORK
pure lion
So are you ready to read the docs?
solemn latch
Its not copy paste
tulip ledge
Then ur doing it wrong
solemn latch
You need to use the parameters like the docs show
earnest phoenix
bruh
lusty quest
mongodb is not as straight forward as sql databases
pale vessel
i'm crying reading these messages
solemn latch
Its not even a logic problem, it's a following directions problem
lusty quest
i guess the issue is, you want to learn something without learning anything
earnest phoenix
im bad at following instuctions and pay attention ok so please mind me being a dickhead
pure lion
Devs do be wise doe
tulip ledge
It's like these people in class who let all the people answer the questions and on tests they have to cheat
@earnest phoenix If you don't want to learn and follow instructions then developing might not be for you
earnest phoenix
what?
tulip ledge
Dude how did I just get 3 spotify adverts after each other?
pure lion
:o
earnest phoenix
lol
Why not check this out then whilst i cant understand https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder-adhd/
tulip ledge
Sure if you have ADHD no problem but we're not gonna make exceptions for you just cuz you have a disorder
I mean prob most devs have a disorder lmao
pure lion
I have not giving up ever disorder 
earnest phoenix
i cant follow thins properly and i dont understand stuff aswell
solemn latch
If your more of a visual learner/audio, try a YouTube video
earnest phoenix
and i always say what as in i dont know or confused so please
solemn latch
Docs are something you will have to get used to using as a dev.
tulip ledge
Tbh docs are better then tutorials tho
lusty quest
find a way how you can work with your disorder and still somehow learn the needed stuff
pure lion
Docs are literally there for you to understand
earnest phoenix
im not good at reading either i stuggle reading big pharagraphs
tulip ledge
Docs are most of the time made by the developers of that thing and therefore are much better then other people making tutorials
lusty quest
maybe you can find a few youtube videos that tell you the basics. Combine it with a activity that can satisfy your disorder
earnest phoenix
and i learn the basics of js ect and cuz of ADHD i forget them and i have to keep learning and i just dont like people saying to me learn the basics cuz ive tried and i just cant learn it and keep it in my head
lusty quest
you dont have to watch the video if its well made, like running around the block while listening to the video can help
lyric mountain
@earnest phoenix the issue with spoonfeeding is that "once" is never enough
lyric mountain
what if you need to fix some issue regarding mongodb in another command?
pure lion
I would say I'm happy to go onto voice chat and explain it but I don't know of mongo
lyric mountain
will you come here again for more spoonfeeding?
earnest phoenix
Wait u forget things cuz of ADHD? YOu sure you don't have alzheimer?
@tulip ledge whats that?
Anyone know how to make a bot that can do robux payouts when someone has invites. I need some help
tulip ledge
You're basically a goldfish if u have alzheimer
lusty quest
ADHD lowers the ability to work with input. there are a few studies about it
earnest phoenix
You're basically a goldfish if u have alzheimer
@tulip ledge well like uhh well i have trouble staying on task so that may be it or smth
:/
lusty quest
also it makes hard to concentrate on one thing for extended periods
tulip ledge
ADHD doesn't make you forget stuff
earnest phoenix
Lol
kinda does for me i have both sides of it and they just keep getting worse and worse
earnest phoenix
Anyone know how to make a bot that can do robux payouts when someone has invites. I need some help
With the code
tulip ledge
Prob create an API that will control a user that will then pay people robux if they reach x amount of invites
They would need to link their account to their discord tho
earnest phoenix
Wait ADHD is 2 dimensional?
@tulip ledge
Well im not an experianced coder but thanks
solemn latch
I think that means like forgetfulness of tasks you need to do
tulip ledge
solemn latch
Not forgetfulness of things you know
solemn latch
True that
earnest phoenix
better place is #memes-and-media
delicate shore
i added this
tulip ledge
Yeah Derku just shut up about your ADHD no one cares
solemn latch
Yikes
solemn latch
Do you have the link to that tos change. I've yet to find it @delicate shore
lusty quest
its on the github repo
solemn latch
O thanks
earnest phoenix
tulip ledge
Oh yeah now u need intents to be allowed to store data right?
solemn latch
Privacy policies for bots
earnest phoenix
I think that means like forgetfulness of tasks you need to do
@solemn latch yes
pure lion
stores literally everything<
tulip ledge
@earnest phoenix One or more files of your doesn't contain a module.exports.help
earnest phoenix
So, I need to add?
tulip ledge
Yes
earnest phoenix
module.exports.help this?
blazing portal
Or the disabled property of the the module.exports.help
earnest phoenix
Yes
tulip ledge
No
@blazing portal It clearly points to the . before disabled
Meaning it can't read the c.help
c.help is essentially undefined
Why
lyric mountain
if you're finding a simple money system hard, imagine when you start making music commands
tulip ledge
Did I just get DM'ed by 2 bots?
lusty quest
i got already the privacy police done. it also shows all the stored data for the user (needed by law in Europe)
lyric mountain
that's really a command
tulip ledge
Can someone link me the TOS?
lusty quest
i guess october 7th you need it
solemn latch
I'm still looking
pure lion
c.help
pure lion
HUH
lyric mountain
c.blablabla
earnest phoenix
lol
lyric mountain
well, no unknown command messages
lyric mountain
pure lion
SoT
lusty quest
https://github.com/discord/discord-api-docs/blob/master/docs/Policy.md i guess this it it
tulip ledge
Apparently you need to display what things you save?
earnest phoenix
https://sourceb.in/980a5a4114 so this is my other code for my other bot andd uhhh im using quick.db for that ok soo uhh i need to like change it up then am i correct si this an easy template or not im not sure i just found this and thought i can replace with uhh mongoDb code i bet its wrong to updated it to mongo :/
lyric mountain
aw shit
tulip ledge
What does that mean
Lol
You can't save users stuff without them using a command?
Or idk I'm not english
lyric mountain
scraping means getting data from the site by fiddling with html
lusty quest
... they removed the old one so you cant check changes
tulip ledge
oh
solemn latch
You cant give it out without user permission
I hope someone makes a privacy policy builder
lyric mountain
damn, just as I was getting a big deal with facebook
solemn latch
Because there's no way everyone will make one
earnest phoenix
so should i use mongoose would that be easier?
pale vessel
you can't even get mongodb to work and now you're doing mongoose
tulip ledge
to promote or facilitate unlawful online gambling;
Does this mean we can't make gambling commands?
slender thistle
I mean mongoose is just a wrapper, isn't it
earnest phoenix
it doesn't
tulip ledge
I think so
lyric mountain
unlawful gambling = betting real money
earnest phoenix
you can't even get mongodb to work and now you're doing mongoose
@pale vessel well i dunno i just like uhh forget ill not do a coin thing then..
yeah
tulip ledge
So we can still make gambling commands?
slender thistle
if it's virtual currency that doesn't involve real money, yes
lusty quest
you can in a limited space
lyric mountain
this is a real thing guys, time to search and destroy kiddos
lusty quest
its discords issue
tulip ledge
yes
pure lion
Why and how the fuck...
earnest phoenix
https://sourceb.in/980a5a4114 so this is my other code for my other bot andd uhhh im using quick.db for that ok soo uhh i need to like change it up then am i correct si this an easy template or not im not sure i just found this and thought i can replace with uhh mongoDb code i bet its wrong to updated it to mongo :/
then you have gambling with virtual currency which can also be bought as a microtransaction which is kind of a grey area because they're being incredibly vague in the document
lusty quest
its not grey area in a few european countries
earnest phoenix
bro someone help
lusty quest
you still have to follow the local law
earnest phoenix
yeah some banned that shit like loot boxes
i sent stuff
and you hevent looked at it yet
aNd You HaVeNt LooKed aT iT YeT
we're not your slaves?
earnest phoenix
6 minutes it has been
delicate shore
O thanks
@solemn latch what did they changed
tulip ledge
What about this?
lusty quest
this is the Privacy Police of the bot
earnest phoenix
should i redo the whole work cmd then and start from the begining?
lusty quest
its possible that this is needed in the future for bots with more than 100 guilds
tulip ledge
Yup
misty sigil
i made an entire subdomain
tulip ledge
I need to make it for my other bot aswell
blazing portal
It's possible that this is needed. Where do you have that information from? Or is it just a guess?
lusty quest
i also send the stored data with my command
lusty quest
so a user can see what is stored and if needed can contact the support for removing it
misty sigil
actually im just gonna, make our privacy policy across the whole "company"
tulip ledge
But only the ID is the thing I save for the user
misty sigil
its not a company its more of a group
lusty quest
i store like 2-4 things
tulip ledge
So I can't show what I store lmao
misty sigil
i store 2 things, thats all
tulip ledge
How do I like put the icon of the avatar here?
The avatar of the client
I can't type
lusty quest
this is what i do currently http://node0.s8s.app/8KEY
tulip ledge
Yeah that is better
lusty quest
the user get the embed as a DM
earnest phoenix
so im in General VC so can someone help?
it is better for me for audio
tulip ledge
I'm gonna yoink ur idea
lusty quest
iirc in germany you need to give the user the ability to see what data is stored. So this is pretty easy
blazing portal
How do I like put the icon of the avatar here?
@tulip ledge If you're using D.js it's.setAuthor(...
earnest phoenix
ok i deleted all my code so can we go in General VC and help?
pale vessel
no.
lyric mountain
spoken spoonfeeding?
earnest phoenix
?
sudden geyser
making a privacy and legal term is kinda weird for a bot
pale vessel
that's a low blow
lusty quest
ahh yes the next selfbot sending me a Friend Invite
earnest phoenix
so can someone help mi in vc?
solemn latch
Its going to be required in the future from what i understand @sudden geyser
lyric mountain
well, time to write a privacy policy
blazing portal
Can you provide any links for that @solemn latch?
sudden geyser
aight I'm out 🚪 🚶♂️
pure lion
Oh hey that's my birthday
sudden geyser
happy early birthday
pure lion
Tankya :D
solemn latch
https://github.com/discord/discord-api-docs/blob/master/docs/Policy.md
I havent read it yet, so im not sure if its in this page
pure lion
Dankyeeee
earnest phoenix
ok i deleted all my code so can we go in General VC and help?
blazing portal
https://github.com/discord/discord-api-docs/blob/master/docs/Policy.md
I havent read it yet, so im not sure if its in this page
@solemn latch It's not, that's why I'm wondering
earnest phoenix
discord is expanding the audience they cater to, with that there's going to be some big changes i guess, including the bot developer community
tulip ledge
What about this?
lusty quest
should be fine
pure lion
a
earnest phoenix
you can just create a github repo and put your statement in that
then hyperlink in your embed
tulip ledge
Yeah also possible
lusty quest
but im not sure if it is completely sound, it is possible that you need to add a way for showing the data (depending on the country your hardware is running)
tulip ledge
Now I'm showing the data stored aswell
earnest phoenix
when i do the help command, nothing happens, here is the code.
pale vessel
that timestamp doesn't look valid
lusty quest
i show everything im storing.
sudden geyser
You shouldn't really hard-code your help manual.
tulip ledge
Damn
lusty quest
but this are only 3 things so its easy
tulip ledge
I might add it to a website then
pale vessel
earnest phoenix
try it and see
You shouldn't really hard-code your help manual.
@sudden geyser what should i do then?
pure lion
@earnest phoenix https://tryitands.ee
lusty quest
actually i think you only need to show stuff that is connected to the user. if there is some sort of configuration file it makes no sense
solemn latch
Xp and balance? Should that be displayed
earnest phoenix
it only stores their id
im just asking if tis correct so far
i dont want to try it right away
lusty quest
i would just to make sure
but its not really a thing you need to do i guess, since its not directly attached to the person directly
earnest phoenix
when i do the help command, nothing happens, here is the code.
(posting again cos too many messages sent after)
sudden geyser
@earnest phoenix I'm not experienced in Discord.py, but does it store the commands somewhere in your Bot instance (aka client)?
tulip ledge
This should be all right?
blazing portal
If you show an error, but not the code, nobody can help you @earnest phoenix
earnest phoenix
const Discord = require("discord.js")
module.exports = {
name: "work",
aliases: ["w"],
category: "Currency",
run: async (bot, message, args, err) => {
const random = Math.floor(Math.random() * 100); //Generates a random number and times it by 100
await bot.db.collection("Money").updateOne({"User_ID": message.author.id})
}
}
@static osprey
lusty quest
you dont send anything to the DB.
lusty quest
you say the DB to update the Document where the User_ID is
lusty quest
you tell the DB to update the Document where the given Userid is
earnest phoenix
still confused
lusty quest
but you dont send anything to update
lusty quest
earnest phoenix
?
tulip ledge
.setAuthor(client.user.avatarURL()) doesnt work
lusty quest
money is the collection
earnest phoenix
yes ik
misty sigil
wheres the money variable
lusty quest
im not sure what he wants to acomplish with this code tbh
blazing portal
sudden geyser
@tulip ledge the first argument (assuming you're using Discord.js) should be a string. Did you mean to set that as the second argument (the icon)
solemn latch
@blazing portal
https://github.com/discord/discord-api-docs/blob/3935fffb7b3dab03d682a8ec984d535d3aafcb72/docs/Legal.md
Section 2a
blazing portal
Thanks Woo
solemn latch
Np
zenith terrace
When he uses the bot and a user at the same time 
blazing portal
If you want the author to be the client name with its icon: [...].setAuthor(client.user.username, client.user.avatarUrl())
tulip ledge
Ok almost
I want the Pirvacy and legal terms instead of undefined
I think I can do that myself tho
pure lion
undefined
pale vessel
avatarURL()
pure lion
displayAvatarURL()
pale vessel
sorry, they said avatarUrl()
tulip ledge
Alright ty
earnest phoenix
earnest phoenix
Lol
tulip ledge
U got another?
zenith terrace
Wat
earnest phoenix
ok so this code:
const Discord = require("discord.js")
module.exports = {
name: "work",
aliases: ["w"],
category: "Currency",
run: async (bot, message, args, err) => {
const random = Math.floor(Math.random() * 100); //Generates a random number and times it by 100
await bot.db.collection("Money").updateOne({"User_ID": message.author.id}, {$set:{ Money: random }}, {upsert: true})
}
}
``` is working and i get this which im guessing is correct so now what do i do now?the only gg i need is good god 😎
how can i make my bot embed gifs/images? this is how i did it but it wont work
tulip ledge
You're getting a random number between 0 and 99
earnest phoenix
you can't tell discord to use your local files
oh
how tf do you expect it to know that
it has to be on imgur or sth?
tulip ledge
yes
earnest phoenix
cos i used to use local files without embeds
earnest phoenix
ok
you can also upload it and reference with attachment://
@tulip ledge i updated the code so now what?
sending a file supports still having embeds
tulip ledge
?
earnest phoenix
const Discord = require("discord.js")
module.exports = {
name: "work",
aliases: ["w"],
category: "Currency",
run: async (bot, message, args, err) => {
const random = Math.floor(Math.random() * 100); //Gets a random number between 0 and 99
await bot.db.collection("Money").updateOne({"User_ID": message.author.id}, {$set:{ Money: random }}, {upsert: true})
}
}
``` got this what do i do now?you tell me
pale vessel
what seems to be the problem here
earnest phoenix
well i dont know what to do next
tulip ledge
We cant help if u dont say what ur problem is
earnest phoenix
i dont have a problem
i need ferther help to finihs this cmd
because it doesnt like add money to it
tulip ledge
wu-
Didnt we answer u like 10 times already
We spoonfed u like 4 times
Why are u still asking help?
tulip ledge
🤦
solemn latch
Iirc discord sets the max size of a thumbnail
weary ridge
I don’t think you can change that
slender thistle
size query param?
earnest phoenix
because it doesnt like add money to it```i've done it but idk if it's the same way in py
@earnest phoenix mind sending it?
shivaco just answered
oh
weary ridge
py is very different to other languages lul
earnest phoenix
i think in discord.py it's size: 1048
slender thistle
Principle stays the same
weary ridge
Tru
slender thistle
thumbnailurl?size=1024
earnest phoenix
so can some on help?
earnest phoenix
;-;
ill ask in TSC
ok ty guys
ill ask in TSC
@earnest phoenix they don't spoonfeed there too
ik
strange trout
solemn latch
Its not like we don't want to help.
The no spoonfeeding rules are so you learn to not depend on others for help.
pale vessel
i wouldn't spoonfeed even if there's no such rule, to be frank
solemn latch
^
tulip ledge
^
pale vessel
the previous person fixed the problem without us giving them code
tulip ledge
Why do python devs earn more then js devs? I wonder
They're both high level languages
earnest phoenix
the salary varies from country to country
solemn latch
Python is in more demand i think
pale vessel
html dev here, earned not even a penny, sad
tulip ledge
Wix and wordpress fucked all html devs up
slender thistle
Python is used more for data analysis
solemn latch
I made a couple hundred off a program I wrote.
Was getting like $50 a month, but the program I was working with made it against tos to use.
Pretty proud i got TOS changed
Lol
strange trout
$50/m 
tulip ledge
Like my cousin who does JS has been looking for a job for like 6 months now and can't find one
lusty quest
i havent even tryed here to get a Job as Software Dev. there is also no need for me RN since i have a secure job as Mold Maker
tulip ledge
I dont even make money developing
solemn latch
Not a lot. But a lot for something that was done and never needed to update @strange trout
strange trout
I'm still in high school
tulip ledge
Same
lusty quest
im out of school for about 7 years
weary ridge
I mean python is used for actual moving equipment, games, webs, and all that tech stuff
tulip ledge
Everyone here are boomers lmao
strange trout
I've done some internships
lusty quest
im only 24
lusty quest
rip
weary ridge
I mean, school has taught me 0 coding
tulip ledge
Same
strange trout
But that's about it. I don't take any programming classes in school
lusty quest
but enjoy school until it lasts. you will hate what follows
misty sigil
I mean, school has taught me 0 coding
@weary ridge mine teaches scratch
weary ridge
Bruh
lusty quest
back when i was in school we had no programing Classes aviable
tulip ledge
We had like 1 scratch lesson
weary ridge
Scratch is so fukin easy
tulip ledge
True I made zelda in scratch once lmao
earnest phoenix
im in hs too, earning from programming on the side whenever i can
lusty quest
during my time as Trainee i had programing classes for NC programs
misty sigil
discord.scratch
tulip ledge
Imagine
earnest phoenix
there's already visual drag and drop bot creators
lusty quest
i think i try out Go in the future or learn python for some ML stuff
earnest phoenix
tulip ledge
Im gonna learn pythong the proper way so I can actually make money of coding lmao
strange trout
I like go
lusty quest
i actually know a usecase for ML stuff at my current workplace
soo i could make money with it
weary ridge
Umm dn
strange trout
Not really
lusty quest
if i would stay in my Job and go to a different Company i can get 50-60k/year
devout wagon
no, not a lot
lusty quest
its above average
devout wagon
pretty average for entry level software dev id say
tulip ledge
I cant get a job untill I'm 18
lusty quest
usually you can say about 40-45k
solemn latch
In 4 years, the market will change probably
lusty quest
lol ive got a job with 15
weary ridge
In Australia normal people get 70-80k a year, Rich peeps 90-120k
tulip ledge
damn
solemn latch
Australia is the exception
tulip ledge
They're upside down
lusty quest
well not a real job just 3,5 years as a trainee
solemn latch
There are trained staff in the US making less than an Australian on minimum wage
lusty quest
then i started full time there
strange trout
Entry level software engineer salaries start at about $75,000 - $90,000 here in the US
solemn latch
Kids working in McDonald's make more than our teachers
weary ridge
Umm it is really high tho
tulip ledge
In belgium theres this thing called job student and you can work from your 16th and earn money during vacations without having to pay taxes
strange trout
Depends on the state though
lusty quest
@tulip ledge we have the same
devout wagon
Entry level software engineer salaries start at about $75,000 - $90,000 here in the US
@strange trout seems like we're seeing very different job offers lol
weary ridge
75k usd would be like 107k aud
devout wagon
I don't live in the us but that's rather unusual from what I've seen
tulip ledge
Proximus Software Engineer salaries - €3,772/mo in belgium
Is that alot?
3.7k a month?
weary ridge
Ooof
lusty quest
3.7k is a lot for beginner
tulip ledge
Damn
weary ridge
Bruh minimum here is 1k
tulip ledge
It's python mainly
lusty quest
im close to this and im now 5 years full time in the same company
tulip ledge
Nice
lusty quest
(could go close to 5k/month in a different one)
weary ridge
But engineers always earn more 3k-4k
tulip ledge
Average software engineer salary in belgium €26k - €65k
strange trout
Those are California salaries(which is reasonable). Here in Kansas, most start at $55,000 - $90,000 entry level
weary ridge
Bruh this person who just fixes the wifi he earns 300$ an hour and he stayed for a good 7 hours soo....
lusty quest
if you are not in silicon valley i guess you have smaller saleries
solemn latch
Yeah Australia has an amazing minimum wage, which means the starter income is amazing.
devout wagon
no
solemn latch
I dont think so.
Bots don't have acess to search api's
lusty quest
with some luck they rise the minumum wage here to 13€/Hour from 9€/Hour
solemn latch
Its $7.25 in the us
lusty quest
it was 7€/Hour here a few years ago
but 13 would be nice for everyone
its actually a level where you can life from
weary ridge
Disgusting 13 aud an hour
zenith terrace
I dont think this is development topic anymore
weary ridge
Who cares lul
lusty quest
we come back to it in a few minutes
weary ridge
Yep
zenith terrace
mods do when they see the chat
lusty quest
also RIP my Patreon page, i guess i need to get my bot larger
weary ridge
Hmmm
tulip ledge
I mean I really wish I can do development as a full time job later
Whats ur patreon?
lusty quest
i wont selfpromote here
weary ridge
Bruh I’m bored af but coding time flys so fast
lusty quest
also i need to iron out the page a little bit
tulip ledge
True
lusty quest
@tulip ledge i was almost able to get a Full time job as a Sys Admin, is also fun stuff but the risk was to high
lusty quest
yes
tulip ledge
Oh
Like these bots like dank memer and mudae they can full time develop their bot due to their patreons
👀
lusty quest
would have loved to start there, they wanted to build a new IT infrastructure with the new Epyc CPUs but the downside was some stuff going on with a different host system
weary ridge
Bruh
lusty quest
my lowest is 1$
weary ridge
Lul
lusty quest
and my highest is 15
weary ridge
U gotta start somewhere hmm
tulip ledge
Am I allowed to run a patreon page?
weary ridge
I would make it a $1
tulip ledge
At 14
devout wagon
patreon is not really reliable though and it's much easier to get a decent paying job than to grow a big enough user base
weary ridge
Hmm I guess so
lusty quest
yes but you need to have some laws to take into account
tulip ledge
Do you have to pay tax on patreon?
solemn latch
Yes and no
lusty quest
im currently not allowed to get past 200€/Month with it otherwise i need to start a company
slender thistle
fees iirc
devout wagon
depends on your income and how it works in belgium
tulip ledge
Prob Belgium is gonna fuck me up again
lusty quest
patreon pays the fees
modest maple
20% goes to nom patreon
lusty quest
but your gov want also money back
tulip ledge
The laws here are just fucked for young developers
lusty quest
@modest maple for me 6%
solemn latch
Ah we got caught
modest maple
is it only 6% now
lusty quest
depends on how much you set
weary ridge
Hmmm
lusty quest
you can give less -> less functions
tulip ledge
So
slender thistle
cool have fun having non-dev topic in #development
lusty quest
you can give more -> more functions
weary ridge
Lul
tulip ledge
if I start a patreon
slender thistle
hhellooo
tulip ledge
Thats not allowed?
tulip ledge
D:
weary ridge
Is there a way to have Patreon in py? Also does anyone know how to code it?
slender thistle
I'm surprised I don't get noticed until I send the same message multiple times
solemn latch
@slender thistle got any sources on a python tut?
Just the basics, so i can understand what's going on
tulip ledge
i mean I'm pretty sure theres a patreon API
lusty quest
@weary ridge patreon got a API but they discontiniued it
slender thistle
https://automatetheboringstuff.com/ (for complete beginners to programming)
https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/python3/ (for people who know programming already)
https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/ (official tutorial)
http://python.swaroopch.com/ (useful book)
see also: http://www.codeabbey.com/ (exercises for beginners)
weary ridge
Oh
slender thistle
I saved that message from somewhere in 2018
tulip ledge
Saved
weary ridge
Lol
lusty quest
tulip ledge
Alright
Time to create a patreob
So I don't have to pay my hosting with my pocket money
weary ridge
lul it's only 2-6$
tulip ledge
:>
lusty quest
@tulip ledge i earn exaclty 0$/month
craggy token
lul it's only 2-6$
@weary ridge I haven't found anything <$5
slender thistle
Surprisingly I was about to quote a message that said
take it to #memes-and-media or #general
solemn latch
lol, feels bad shiv
slender thistle
sick cloud
has anyone here used vs code for java
topaz fjord
that's autism so no
sick cloud
it was working fine hours ago but now it's stuck and hanging on "1: Task - Java Build Status" and nothing's running
like the auto complete and error checking etc broke
craggy token
use IntelliJ it's far better than vsc for Java
topaz fjord
it's free
craggy token
and everything that's not JS/TS
sick cloud
i'm using vs code until i can download intellij
oh ok nvm it took forever to load its done now
craggy token
intellij can also do js
@topaz fjord wait I meant to say that vsc sucks for everything that's not JS/TS
craggy token
yeah and I iagree on that but if you compare them vsc looks like shite
sudden geyser
the difference is intelliJ is an IDE and vsc is a code editor
topaz fjord
but each ide can do most languages
the only difference you get is more specific features and a better debugger
for the lang
writing java outside of an ide doesn't seem logical to me
sudden geyser
cries in mac
misty sigil
notepad = best game dev engine, best ide, best code editor, best web designer
vivid crescent
wb nano
misty sigil
same thing
lusty quest
MS Paint
misty sigil
ooh, ms paint is the best for designing textures and assets
lusty quest
write a script for creating textures as ASCII art
misty sigil
oh shit thats epic too
earnest phoenix
I can't work this out 
misty sigil
veld pfp
lusty quest
missing permissions
misty sigil
it literally says it right there
tulip ledge
Your bot doesnt have the right permission
misty sigil
read. your. damn. errors.
lusty quest
did you have a command that needs special permissions?
like editing messages needs Manage Messages
and edit channels Manage channels
solemn latch
you can actually get permission errors on sending a message even.
read but no write perms, someone does a command, permission errors.
autumn aspen
I need help with index.js can I just put the prefix that I want with a command?
srry for bothering u
Can u send me all the commands to me pls, here is all I got for now. And I need a prefix input, how do I do it? Also I need the ping command can u pls help me with it, I have a coded bot from VSC and Node, Discord.js I think its Javascripted to. But its online and working
const Discord = require('discord.js');
const bot = new Discord.Client();
bot.login('your-token');
If u could help me out it would be rlly rlly great and appreciated
I need a BOT that can do like everything, lock chat and vc's, moderate, warn, mute, kick, ban, purge and baned words / senteces and all that serious things if u know what I mean.
It would be rlly appreciated
And if u cant help me step by step can u tell me an another person that cam do it?
Pls read.
It would be rlly appreciated if someone could help me
solemn latch
we have a rule of no spoonfeeding(giving copy paste code)
lusty quest
we are not allowed to Spoonfeed
misty sigil
we are not allowed to spoonfeed
autumn aspen
Sorry but thats all
lusty quest
you can find bots with this functions on Github
solemn latch
heres a really good djs guide
https://discordjs.guide/
autumn aspen
Thx
you can find bots with this functions on Github
@lusty quest Send me it I want a bot that can create 3 senconds slowmode and all that moderate stuff like lock vc`s and text channels and all that like GearBot and MEE6
lusty quest
learn how to do it or get GearBot or Mee6
misty sigil
yea
misty sigil
if you just wanna copy other bots and copy-paste code, you can't exactly be considered a dev 🤔 just my opinion
lusty quest
i bet my 11 years old cousin can do this
misty sigil
lol i bet my computer illiterate grandma could copy paste some code
or even write a bit with my help
lusty quest
not sure with my granddad, ive got a call with i removed google
misty sigil
autumn aspen
if you just wanna copy other bots and copy-paste code, you can't exactly be considered a dev 🤔 just my opinion
@misty sigil no but I want all that for my server bc my server is big I bet all big servers has a bot that can do everything like that like Sound`s Utilities like a private bot
lusty quest
its nothing against you @autumn aspen just the rules here doesnt allow us to spoonfeed, it is also nothing that will help you in the long run
misty sigil
you dont have to have a custom bot
lusty quest
then either pay someone to make one or learn how to code
misty sigil
exactly
autumn aspen
then either pay someone to make one or learn how to code
@lusty quest Where can I pay someone to do it?
Im gonna code my own
tbh
lusty quest
fiverr freelancher r/freelancer
solemn latch
those are sites you can find devs
autumn aspen
Ok
misty sigil
cuz sounds utilities is developed by aunto development (I THINK)
autumn aspen
I need a bot like his!
lusty quest
depends some do it 20$ some for 200$
autumn aspen
Its a legendray bot!
misty sigil
there are other bots with that functionality
solemn latch
a bot with all the features of mee6 can cost hundreds of dollars.
misty sigil
and the hosting
autumn aspen
200$ is way to much
solemn latch
along with monthly fees
autumn aspen
Then they poor
misty sigil
for said hosting
autumn aspen
a bot with all the features of mee6 can cost hundreds of dollars.
@solemn latch But u can code one
misty sigil
yes
lusty quest
lol mee6 is completly different level, they actually have the bot running in a K8s
autumn aspen
lol mee6 is completly different level, they actually have the bot running in a K8s
@lusty quest OwO
Dude bc its a got dammit international bot
misty sigil
many of us hate it, but it's actually super fking smoothly running
it has tons of features
solemn latch
international will require a team of translators
autumn aspen
All thos bots is either pro or someone / group worked with it for years
we talking nerds
misty sigil
yup
lusty quest
im fine with the bot, im actually interested in the backend stuff of the bot (mostly hardware)
misty sigil
same tbh
autumn aspen
Yeah
vivid crescent
What stuffs
misty sigil
like wtf they hosting that on
lusty quest
i actually worked with Ceph clusters but a large scale K8 is something i want to see once
misty sigil
across machine clustering?
autumn aspen
Lol guys they make a website with Wix and setup every single thing
lusty quest
yes? they wont host it on a single server
autumn aspen
NO OF THE CODES ARE WRONG
lusty quest
i actually have a DB running on 3 Different Servers
lusty quest
but in future i probably need to use 6-7 for the entire system i have planned
lusty quest
i was working as Sys Admin for a time
autumn aspen
Bro I need thos purge codes and all a proffesional guy that helped made GearBot and MEE6 IS GONNA HELP ME!!!
lusty quest
and i know some backend stuff
autumn aspen
He said he want 100$!
misty sigil
just get mee6 if you dont wanna pay (or learn)
lusty quest
thats normal
autumn aspen
Bro a guy from fck MEE6 and GearBot development is gonn ahelp me for 100$
Thats insane
solemn latch
mee6 is on servers with hundreds of thousands of users 🤔
misty sigil
ok?
lusty quest
Mee6 actually is this large they have stability issues (Discord API wise)
autumn aspen
prefix and all
autumn aspen
So u can change it slef after and sencored words
misty sigil
i can also do that
autumn aspen
Guys I have alot to do
misty sigil
go do it then
vivid crescent
Ok
solemn latch
well, have fun
misty sigil
wasy?