#Satisfactory
ivory mulch
me 
acoustic cloud
It does look like there is an option to set up a dedicated server for it, if we have enough interest. Otherwise we could just do classic host based multiplayer.
woeful osprey
what kind of game is it?
acoustic cloud
Building/exploration. Mostly building. Essentially you gather resources to make into things, which lets you build more things.
There's some light combat from what I recall, and some exploration of stuff, but it's mostly building things like bases and, well, factories to automate things.
I haven't played it myself, though I bought it on sale because it interested me, but I've seen a fair few videos in it from time to time. One of their pictures on the Steam store is actually from a youtuber I watch, where he built a giant construct out of conveyer belts.
radiant zinc
If we're all interested, I could try switching the 7dtd server to this
acoustic cloud
I'm down for it, though it may be a day or two before I could play due to family stuff.
radiant zinc
Connection Info
144.48.106.170:7787
I have a backup of the 7dtd if anyone wants it, but the server is being swapped over
might take a bit
acoustic cloud
radiant zinc
@ivory mulch wake up and play
acoustic cloud
I'd hop on, but I don't need to stay up late tonight because my family does things early in the day by my standards, and I know starting out I'll probably play for several hours straight. I also need to see if there's a good setup I can figure out for my controller for it, which might take me a bit. Will try to hop on either tomorrow night or the next day depending on how much energy I have after my family get together tomorrow.
ivory mulch
i hab lunch break
can join in to check
i tried pasting the IP on join game
nvm found it
ivory mulch
ivory mulch
@radiant zinc i guess the server is only online when you're on?
radiant zinc
Oh?
Defeats the purpose of a dedicated server...
Maybe I missed a setting or something
Did you try to create a game from there?
ivory mulch
my closest copper place 
really need to figure out how to optimize the production line, i have 4 iron mines, 1 limestone mine, and 1 copper mine
and my conveyor line is very unhappy
oh god help me
ok now i understand why people are addicted to this game
radiant zinc
lol
yeah, it gets crazy
ok so the server is just straight up offline
and wont start
so I put in a ticket 😦
radiant zinc
woot, server is back up
radiant zinc
there is so much to do in this game lol..
radiant zinc
success
I also marked where I hid aldi's lazy character who's just chillin'
now to do copper and limestone behind me
acoustic cloud
Looks like it's going well. Will definitely hop on tomorrow. After spending time with my family today I'm just trying to relax. I ended up napping for a few hours once I got home.
radiant zinc
I'm just staring at concrete being made while watching youtube
radiant zinc
sips ☕
Yup, power grid is working
ivory mulch
radiant zinc
How come the server is always offline when I wake up 😦
ivory mulch
ye thats why im playing single player mostly
something wrong with the server setting?
radiant zinc
not sure
I mean I played a long time yesterday
I think it needs a restart trigger
thats all I needed to do to fix it
I think it's disconnecting from steam
I added an auto restart
we saw it say it was going to restart and then it didnt that first night
so I assume that's what's missing
radiant zinc
I'm working on some at the moment
acoustic cloud
Are you having issues with pressure? From what I recall seeing in videos you basically have to put a pump or something along the pipeline to keep pressure going.
radiant zinc
if you want to see
The spot I picked to build this... there's a giant spider spawn like.. right next to it
it sucks lol
acoustic cloud
More than likely I'll hop on in just a bit. Are we all working on just one base or are we doing seperate bases?
acoustic cloud
Ah, still haven't gotten it figured out?
radiant zinc
it shoudl be good
I played like all day yesterday
was fine
but overnight it wasn't doing the reboot
so I am forcing one now
acoustic cloud
Fair enough. PC stuff always has issues, so no surprise something popped up.
radiant zinc
yeah, I dunno
I swapped the server
and then did all the stuff in game to set it up
the support guy even asked me "did you swap this from 7dtd?"
I was like.. yeah?
but supposedly they fixed it
but like the game says it'll reboot the server
and then didnt do it
so I just need to time the reboot job to that timer
it looked like it was disconnecting from steam
since that's how steam based servers works
it creates an anoynmous steam user
acoustic cloud
Ah, that makes sense.
acoustic cloud
Updating the game and then I'll be hopping on.
I found a community controller layout that should work in theory, but I'll have to test it and may have to adjust some stuff. Already had to switch the sprint button because they had it tied to R3 instead of L3 for some reason.
radiant zinc
you wont need to sprint much
unless you're bolting across land
Ok, I understand fluids now
ivory mulch
@acoustic cloud @radiant zinc ping me when you two are online 
radiant zinc
@ivory mulch we're both online
radiant zinc
sweet, auto restart worked
@ivory mulch I died like 20 times to your uranium because I removed the random storage crate thinking it was a mistake placement
ivory mulch
<@212984563146686464> I died like 20 times to your uranium because I removed the...
it was not intended to be this kind of trap
radiant zinc
i heard you talk about uranium
but apparently it's not safe lol
looks like we have presents
acoustic cloud
Yea, Uranium is dangerous. Also once we start nuclear power down the line, we have to carefully dispose of all the nuclear waste, because it gives off radation poisoning too.
radiant zinc
lol the game told me to go back to work after I collected a bunch of presents
acoustic cloud
<@277531988410236930> didnt tell? <:worry:773396670498340895>
In fairness, Hexy was gone for a while still after you left I think. Plus I was busy fighting with conveyor belts.
acoustic cloud
lol the game told me to go back to work after I collected a bunch of presents
Lol. Nice.
ivory mulch
but apparently it's not safe lol
big fact of the day
ivory mulch
yeah this was the event i was talking about.
maybe it took the servers local time to start?
acoustic cloud
Probably, since it's only now December for us, but you're a few hours ahead.
ivory mulch
yeap
timezones how do they work
radiant zinc
magic
radiant zinc
wow, upgrading power poles crashes the server
acoustic cloud
That's really odd.
acoustic cloud
That's a pain, but ah well. About to hop on.
acoustic cloud
@ivory mulch I built us a fun new toy to help us get around.
ivory mulch
acoustic cloud
Just be sure to bring your parachute.
acoustic cloud
Oh yea, makes sense. I'm guessing it ended up just going in order so it clogged the line?
I thought about hopping back on but I realized how tired I am, lol. I know like an hour or so ago the game told me I'd been playing for six hours straight.
ivory mulch
radiant zinc
lol Gamer got a couple and one brought us a nuke also xD
radiant zinc
@acoustic cloud good news, the oil factory is running solid. makes plastic, rubber, and packaged fuel. it's also slowly producing your gun powder if it has coal and sulfur.
Bad news, while recording the truck route I ran over a spitter mob and it sent me flying out into the ocean and out of the map so far out that I was out of bounds and died and I don't see a way to recover the truck :/
I guess now I understand why everyone builds everything above ground
easy enough to fix I suppose
build a platform move the station up, build a new truck..
acoustic cloud
That's a pain. Oof.
acoustic cloud
so one of them just brought me this
Yea, Aldi, doggo farms are useful because they can bring you back all sorts of materials. I have four in our world, (which you should play some more sometime), and they've brought back a few things, including a few power slugs.
radiant zinc
one dog spawns near the oil
you'll probably need to kill bees along the path to get it home though
acoustic cloud
I'll see what I can do when I hop on here in a bit. Watching a couple of things until I can convince myself to find something to eat, then I'll hop on after I'm done.
radiant zinc
I applied to like 20 more places today
so I just have a few things to do around the house and I'll be back on
acoustic cloud
Good luck.
radiant zinc
I think I'm going to make a battery bank when I get on
acoustic cloud
Could be useful, since we'll keep needing more power. Don't want everything to shut down if we accidentally go over our infrastructure.
acoustic cloud
I'm kind of surprised we don't have it already. I would have thought oil based generators would have been one of the first things in all the stuff we unlocked.
radiant zinc
you can refine it
just not power with it yet
I guess
first though
I'm going to go mine sam
I really really want the pocket dimension
so I dont have to carry a full inventory
acoustic cloud
Yea, that's entirely fair and useful. Setting up at least a storage center like I have for the sulfur on that sam node near the coal was one of the things I was going to do when I hop on.
radiant zinc
the server goes offline because when the admin leaves it closes the steam connection
I need to figure out how to be a client, not an admin
acoustic cloud
Hmm. Looking into it, I'm seeing a lot of people apparently have this issue, and I've seen a couple of solutions, but it looks like some of them don't work for everyone or only work in very specific setups.
radiant zinc
weird
oh well
I made a mini storage area
and tried a rail cannon blueprint
set up our first dimensional storage and a sam miner
acoustic cloud
Nice. I got distracted but am probably about to hop on.
radiant zinc
need high speed connectors
radiant zinc
@acoustic cloud
server is getting a bunch of light errors
[2024.12.03-02.59.44:138][597]LogNetPackageMap: Warning: FNetGUIDCache::SupportsObject: LightweightCollisionComponent /Game/FactoryGame/Map/GameLevel01/Persiste
nt_Level.Persistent_Level:PersistentLevel.AbstractInstanceManager_2147473673.LightweightCollisionComponent_2147473327 NOT Supported.
acoustic cloud
Yea, was about to say. I'm showing 1200 ping when I started to go back into it.
radiant zinc
rebooting
acoustic cloud
Really odd. Like I said it happened when I tried to blow up a cluster of rocks, but I only used two explosives, and it hasn't done that before.
radiant zinc
the hosted server is not as stable as I'd like it to be
its back up
at least its fast
acoustic cloud
The best part is if I screenshot, things look somewhat normal, @radiant zinc
I hit the ceiling.
radiant zinc
lol..
acoustic cloud
It didn't, but it did lock it up to where I couldn't do anything.
radiant zinc
I logged for the reboot
acoustic cloud
Ah well. Will just hop back on in a few once it's all rebooted.
radiant zinc
👍🏻
acoustic cloud
Ping me when it's back up.
acoustic cloud
Nice. Another screenshot I took briefly before I got erased from existence, by the way.
I'm pretty sure that small landmass in the center is the entire playable world.
acoustic cloud
Fair.
acoustic cloud
wth are you guys doing
Many things.
radiant zinc
we added an oil rig
and doubled our power
added more launchers
built a train
@acoustic cloud you can try to get on
acoustic cloud
Trying now.
radiant zinc
oh I see you did
acoustic cloud
I'm in, lol.
radiant zinc
sweet
ok so it's just me
I need to deauth myself as admin somehow
oh well something to think about tomorrow
tomorrow I'm adding more to the oil rig and then sending the train to a new stop
or maybe I'll try to sort out the home base and get storage going properly..
that might be better
acoustic cloud
I've handled our train depot storage. Most likely indefinitely, and if not, at least for the forseeable future.
I also setup a third floor that's "semi-auto" crafters, so we can manually put in batches of materials to have them craft, for stuff that'd be too much work to automate.
acoustic cloud
Our storage system.
Up to five double containers full of 16 different items that are sorted, plus 15 double containers worth of overflow storage for unsorted items.
All of which are accessible from ground level, and the ports are available to pipe them out via conveyer belts.
Called it a night after getting that setup and getting the rest of the stuff going for the space elevator. I dumped all my excess inventory into the storage system. Anything that doesn't get sorted should end up at the bottom box where my body is sitting.
It's not a perfect storage system, and not a full on auto sorter, but it should at least keep us from having the same things spread out among fifteen different boxes when we can't be bothered to sort something.
(Particularly Aldi.)
To have it sort stuff, just put your items in the first set of containers behind the railway station.
radiant zinc
I have a tileable storage system that auto sorts, so we can fix it all up
radiant zinc
woot server update
acoustic cloud
What got updated?
acoustic cloud
Unfortunate, but maybe at least we won't have as many random small issues.
radiant zinc
GAMEPLAY
Reverted the snapping changes when building on the sides of Pillars to allow free placement again
BUG FIXES
Potential fix for a crash when replacing holograms with another (I.e. Replacing Pipe Hologram with a Hypertube)
Fixed a crash when Upgrading Power Poles or splitting a Wire from a Power Pole or Wall Outlets
UI
Fixed incorrect title in Network Errors
LOCALISATION
Updated community translated languages with the latest translations
Updated credits```not much updated
acoustic cloud
I mean the power pole fix is nice.
radiant zinc
yeah that's good
hard crashes is good thing to fix quickly
ok, built my relay station
and started a more centralized store building
acoustic cloud
Fair. My storage system I setup is mostly meant for anything we have coming from the train(s), that way we won't have it all clog up quickly due to overproduction.
With room to expand depending on how many trains we get going.
Might not hop on tonight since I played so long yesterday. Probably a good idea to give my brain a bit of a break from staring at conveyer belts and storage boxes.
acoustic cloud
Just a "bit", lol. I set up that semi-auto production section, the train storage area, and a couple of hypertubes to make getting up on the overhang easier. And the crystal storage area way out there, but that was mostly done before you hopped off.
radiant zinc
Im going to dismantle the bio fuel energy area
acoustic cloud
Yea, I thought about doing that as well but was going to wait and see what your thoughts were. We don't need it anymore so it's just wasted space.
I figure it'd be more useful as either a storage area of some sort, or a place for more battery banks.
radiant zinc
yeah
I think I might make it the copper area
and move all the copper production over there
acoustic cloud
Yea, fair. That would let us make that side where the copper currently is more focused on steel production.
Since it's kind of a mess over there at the moment.
radiant zinc
I have a full steel production going way out in the middle of no where
it's just steel ingots right now
acoustic cloud
Fair. You could also set one up near the coal plant/quartz zone. There's a pure iron node up on that cliff where my storage is there, and it's right beside the coal.
Then when we have a train going out there we can feed quartz, sam, and steel ingots into it for shipping.
radiant zinc
My greatest invention yet
acoustic cloud
On one hand, it's glorious. On the other, unless that was something that's pre-formed, that had to be a lot of work to contain it while it was spewing kamikazi bees at you.
acoustic cloud
Might not hop on tonight since I played so long yesterday. Probably a good idea ...
I like how I said this, and then I decided to go back to rewatching some of Josh's Satisfactory videos. 
https://youtu.be/X77MHTOEwXo?list=PLrBjj4brdIRwRkGTLKqH5hlS_mlMYn_J0
radiant zinc
On one hand, it's glorious. On the other, unless that was something that's pre-f...
Wasn't too bad actually, the build range is pretty far and I was able to stack a foundation on top of it out of range, then added a second one. Then the walls, then the lower beams.
I'm going to make a blue print and use this all the time lol
acoustic cloud
Yea, fair enough. I sometimes forget the build range is so far.
You could just turn the whole world into a zoo with random exhibits everywhere.
acoustic cloud
Oh?
radiant zinc
And I want to take the train around the lake
Since it needs to go that way anyhow
So where the iron miners are, I want to make a big circle platform above it and make a few floors of it
And turn it into a cliff face building
I learned how to do circles
Circle-ish
Turn it into a futuristic area
Though I like the catwalks
They can't really be in a circle
acoustic cloud
Sounds like it may turn out pretty well if you can get it going.
Looking forward to seeing how it goes.
radiant zinc
I'm going to login in about 15
I need to fix my storehouse manifold
And my blueprint for it
This old engineer had a neat tip for it on YouTube that I'll use
acoustic cloud
I may hop on in a bit. Not sure what I feel like doing at the moment honestly. I'm already drained mentally because tomorrow I have to visit my grandmother to help her buy a new computer...
radiant zinc
I just replaced my mother's computer
less than $200
refurb optima off amazon
runs really well
I prefer the work machines for her because they're made to just run with nothign fancy. I'll dm some links
acoustic cloud
Yea, under $200 is going to be my goal for my grandmother. She really just needs something that will let her browse the internet and store pictures and all, so low end is good enough.
But I also don't want to get her one that she'll have to replace in a few months because the quality is bad.
radiant zinc
I like how @ivory mulch made us play this but then refuses to play with us
acoustic cloud
I mean, yea, to a degree, but Hexy and I have been playing coop fairly well. I make stuff to fit the need of the moment, while Hexy fixes it and does the long term planning.
Which keeps me from going insane sorting conveyer belts for all eternity.
ivory mulch
Which keeps me from going insane sorting conveyer belts for all eternity.
well about that
kinda hard to leave once you have a plan/build going on
and it just keeps appearing
acoustic cloud
I mean, in fairness, I stayed up like four hours past when I was going to go to bed the other night just because I kept getting distracted working on other stuff while I was waiting for concrete encased beams to be made so I could setup the train storage.
Partly because some of the things I got distracted by also needed those materials, so I was still going through them faster than they were being made.
Even after upgrading the systems that were making them.
ivory mulch
tbh kinda my fault for starting SP and letting this goes on
acoustic cloud
You should definitely hop in the mp world at some point though when Hexy and I are on.
radiant zinc
Which keeps me from going insane sorting conveyer belts for all eternity.
belts are insane to keep track of but I totally have an idea to make it easier on us
now that smart splitters are a thing
acoustic cloud
Would be useful. I can't count the number of times I had to chase entire lines of conveyers back to their machines because I had no idea what was going on.
radiant zinc
damn it
my smart storage system is too close together
screw it
we'll jus tmake it a loop
acoustic cloud
acoustic cloud
Yea, that could work. Will be a bit of a pain to rearrange the train storage depo if you're moving the station, but otherwise I can see it making things a bit more organized.
radiant zinc
all the stuff in the train depot will go to that building above it
it doesn't have all the height you have, but we can build it up. I dunno if we need THAT many items stored if we're constantly producing. the top of the stack should be a dimensional storage
but that'll be where we can sort all the items and ship them out
acoustic cloud
Well the main reason for all the height is to let it store massive amounts of the materials that the trains will be bringing back and forth, since unlike the production at our base, we'll be slowly building up a ton of raw materials it that gets shipped. Particularly during times when the server is running but we're not actively turning those materials into something in particular.
radiant zinc
yeah, we just don't really need to store raw materials, only produced ones
like screws
we don't need to store a ton of that, since it just gets turned into everything else
acoustic cloud
What I mean though, is that a lot of those materials, like say, rubber and plastic, we need for a lot of different recepies, so building up a ton of it to use in those different recepies will be useful, unless we're actively using it at the same rate we're getting it in.
radiant zinc
yeah
acoustic cloud
That's the main thing the larger storage is meant to account for, since it'll be harder to setup constant production on the materials we're bringing in, with the steady flow of them, compared to materials chains we have on stuff near the base. And if we get an overflow of a material that's getting shipped in, it could break the whole shipping line.
radiant zinc
right but trains can only ship so much
acoustic cloud
Yea, but the thing with automated shipping is that if we're working on other stuff, it'll still be bringing it over. With all our production lines that are in the base itself, like steel, an overflow of materials will just stop one line. If the train shipping overflows, then it'll stop any of the various resources from the trains from coming in. So if say, we end up not using plastics as much, but we're using a lot of rubber, steel, etc that's coming in, the plastics may overflow and the other materials will stop coming in.
radiant zinc
that's the point of smart sorting, if it overflows instead of stopping, it sinks
so the material is lost for points, but production continues on pace
that's how you balance the efficiency
since production is essentially infinite
I saw a video of a guy who spent like 2000 hours and sinks 54mil points a minute
lol
acoustic cloud
Alright, as long as you can get it setup properly to do that without issue. With what little I messed with overflow smart sorting it seemed like it was a bit finicky, and ended up sending a bunch of materials to the overflow even though their paths were clear, because something else was overflowing.
radiant zinc
we can store 5 rows high if you really want, once storage is built we can handle any amount really
I just want a dimensional on top
so it's always full
acoustic cloud
Fair, though the dimension has issues clogging up if a particular material is full. I had to "unclog" it several times by taking out the item that was full. Unless you plan on having a seperate uploader for each material.
radiant zinc
right, so you point a single item to one
so every stack of one item has it's own dismensional
that one item will always ben full
We're not really changing what you built
acoustic cloud
Yea, that's fine then. I just wasn't sure how difficult or expensive it was to make extra dimensional uploaders, or if it was something like you could only have one.
radiant zinc
Just moving it and adding overflow to sink
They're fucking expensive lol
But whatever!
acoustic cloud
Well, with what I built, you'll have to put the dimensional uploaders on the bottom. The way my stuff is setup is so that the materials go into the top container and then feed down, so that the bottom container is always the most full.
That way it's easier to access.
radiant zinc
Yeah, mine is reversed. It feeds from below the floor
But would feed to the top, load the dimensional, then fill downwards
acoustic cloud
Fair. As long as it's feeding downwards. Don't want to have to go to the topmost container to get something if it's not full.
acoustic cloud
Yea, that's what my setup avoids. basically it fills into the bottom going up to the top.
Let me reword that. The raw materials go into the top, then fill down to the bottom, so that the bottom container will be the most full, the one above it the second most, etc.
Anyhow, I'm sure it'll all work. I'm just showing my thought process and making sure things are accounted for.
radiant zinc
yeah
make sense
I made the storage area mostly so that I could go to a central place to grab what I need to build
and then it's a central place to feed everything into
and route it out as needed
acoustic cloud
Especially since it's a pain to rework stuff after it's setup.
acoustic cloud
In the end, my main concerns are overflow, and ideally we want a bit of a stockpile to build up in case we suddenly need a lot of materials. We got basically out of screws and copper plates while I was working on stuff the other night after you hopped off, when we'd had plenty prior, just because some things suddenly needed them.
radiant zinc
yeah, screws are a bottle neck
I might do a floor of my circle build just for screws
acoustic cloud
We go from having a full container of them at times, to having none at all.
radiant zinc
yeah, our lines are not balanced
that's knd of my fault
since I didnt set it up to handle all the additions
acoustic cloud
Well, I think a large part of it is that sometimes we don't need a material except briefly or to make one thing, then several recepies are needing it all at once.
It's less an issue of the lines not being balanced, and more just that there ends up with an increased supply needed for some things depending on our current goals.
radiant zinc
that's the problem with adding more machines
since the requirements increase we arnt always adding more production to match the full line
like a rotor takes 100 screws or soemthing stupid
25
Heavy Modular Frame is 120 screws
it's crazy
I dunno how to balance for that yet
acoustic cloud
Probably just pipe in more resources, improve resource lines as much as we can, and set up additional lines.
radiant zinc
yeah
acoustic cloud
The issue is managing it with limited space without it getting too messy.
acoustic cloud
My solution is usually just "build more floors".
radiant zinc
yeah, that's the general idea
acoustic cloud
With the old bioreacter area, for example, we can theoretically build floors all the way up to the hard ceiling if we need to.
Then we just need to pipe in the raw materials we need for the different production lines.
Either via coneyers or trains, depending on how quickly we need them.
radiant zinc
Unlocked a bunch of research, fixed some output paths, fixed the storage area filters, started a semi mega sized oil energy building, my battery relay has a radar tower now, fixed the coal power water flow finally, your quartz storage was locked up so I added overflows to sink
tomorrow I think I'm going to get excess steel production started in my offbase and then lay out the new big base buildings so I can move stuff around and zone it all for conveyer lines
radiant zinc
We may need to move the space elevator also
No progress is lost when we do
Maybe on my junction building?
acoustic cloud
Yea, maybe somewhere a little out of the way would work. We only really need it around when we're pumping materials into it for the next tier anyhow, and we can always do that wherever it is.
Could always put it up on a cliff or something, lol.
radiant zinc
@acoustic cloud THE DOGS CAN BRING BACK URANIUM
acoustic cloud
Confirmed? From what I read on the wiki they removed that from their pool.
radiant zinc
radiant zinc
@acoustic cloud playing today? should I send off the elevator or wait for you?
radiant zinc
@woeful osprey if you wanted to play with us, the world is bigger than skyrim's. Plenty of places to build and do your own thing or join us
acoustic cloud
<@277531988410236930> playing today? should I send off the elevator or wait for ...
I will probably hop on later tonight, once my brain power returns. I forgot how annoying amazon is to search through for stuff at times, so my time at my grandmother's was more draining than I thought. You can go ahead and send the elevator though.
Unless it's the last one.
radiant zinc
I think we have 2 more
acoustic cloud
Then yea, go for it.
acoustic cloud
I mean, that's how it goes. Have to progress to unlock more, and as you do it needs new things that you couldn't make before.
woeful osprey
<@315894112740048906> if you wanted to play with us, the world is bigger than sk...
the game is out of my game budget i already bought some games this month also paying for a gatcha game
you guys have fun, i will join the next game 
acoustic cloud
Lol.
radiant zinc
we now have a portion of our main base producing the 6 main components into dimensional storage: wire, rods, copper plate, copper wire, iron plates and screws
so they should always be avail
acoustic cloud
Very nice.
radiant zinc
assemblers are in place
@acoustic cloud this is very distopian
I spent 2 hours trying to get this curve.. then found a guy who made a blueprint for it
might have to make it larger depending on what's being shipped into it
acoustic cloud
Fair. And yea, lol. It'll also give you vertigo if you stare up too much.
Definitely looks like you've been doing a lot of good work. Sorry I haven't hopped on.
acoustic cloud
Fair enough. I do have some ideas for something I want to work on and some stuff I want to test out when I do hop on next. Just in kind of a "I barely exist right now" mood and don't really feel like playing anything, lol.
radiant zinc
all good
I'm going to get the manufacters in place and call it a night, got a vet appt in the morning
acoustic cloud
I hope your kitty is doing well.
radiant zinc
it's a blood test to see how her liver is doing, the meds dont do well on the liver
so we're seeing if she's holding up or if we need to switch meds
acoustic cloud
Ah, fair. Hopefully she's handling it alright.
radiant zinc
me too
radiant zinc
I dream of getting attacked by bees and charged off a cliff
cause that happens to me too often
acoustic cloud
I've taken to sniping their nests from a distance. I've gotten oddly good at shooting enemies while parachuting.
radiant zinc
The worst is I went into a cave that had like.. medium sized spiders, not the big ones but much bigger than usual. Had my sound off so didn't even know and it was a jumping puzzle for a mercer. Suddenly got knocked off and murdered
acoustic cloud
Yea, had to deal with that when setting up the quartz mine. They're such a pain when they swarm you.
radiant zinc
nooo
i pointed some of the smart storage the wrong way
sigh..
need to re do all the mergers so it can loop
oh
I need to re do half the mergers and half the smart spiltters
acoustic cloud
ivory mulch
radiant zinc
almost done though
and lighting
dimensionals go above the lighting and we can grow the stacks as needed
trying to get this all set up so I can start putting things into it
acoustic cloud
Looking nice.
ivory mulch
@radiant zinc server needs update?
radiant zinc
just happened today yeah
I was just downloading the patch
running the update
its up
ivory mulch
yeah
i need time away from my world
ive had enough of conveyor belts and pipes for now
acoustic cloud
I was thinking about hopping on here in a bit once my stomach settles, (I ate too much, too quickly).
radiant zinc
The spiders are scary
acoustic cloud
Haven't seen one of the big ones yet.
acoustic cloud
Lol.
Also Hexy, I think I'm off for the night. May hop back on later, but at least for now I'm taking a break.
acoustic cloud
Of course. Hopefully I'll hop back on before too long, but you know how I tend to lose track of days.
radiant zinc
I'll make sure more infrastructure is in place!
acoustic cloud
radiant zinc
ok that hover thing is awesome
you just have to be near power connectors
thank you for unlocking that lol
acoustic cloud
Lol. You're welcome. It sounded interesting, but wasn't sure how well it'd work.
radiant zinc
I was going to redo all the powerlines anyhow, but now I know what else I need to thinkabout
acoustic cloud
Focus on one thing at a time.
radiant zinc
duuuuddde
since the train tracks are all powered
you can hover along them for ever
acoustic cloud
Very nice.
acoustic cloud
acoustic cloud
May be a couple of days before I hop on again. New big update came out for Warframe.
ivory mulch
acoustic cloud
From the looks of things, AK Endfield is basically Satisfactory meets an action RPG. May hold some more interest for the two of you as a reult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbMmSdOJ1Ho
About 4:20 shows off some of the base setup stuff.
ivory mulch
yeah i will be playing this come 15jan beta + the release day
satisfactory is just the tutorial phase
acoustic cloud
ivory mulch
From the looks of things, AK Endfield is basically Satisfactory meets an action ...
man how i wish that base overhead view/edit thing existed in satisfactory
acoustic cloud
It does seem really nice for having a good look at things.
ivory mulch
radiant zinc
terror
ivory mulch
im in part of the world where every interesting stuff is either guarded by 2 very big irradiated hogs or 3 L spiders + 1 XL green spider
acoustic cloud
acoustic cloud
I'm guessing you never ventured into the crystal mines I had setup did you? The swarms of the small spiders was a bit of a pain there.
radiant zinc
I did
it was horrible
I was curious where the sam was coming from
saw that there was both in the cave. I stayed on top of the conveyers so was mostly safe
acoustic cloud
Lol. Fair enough. It was such a pain clearing them all out so that I could build there. I also went through some of the side paths to find stuff, and there were even more of them around.
There's a reason I bothered piping conveyers out to that storage zone instead of just setting it up in the cave.
radiant zinc
Yeah, it's good that you conveyored it out
I have to get sooooo much more energy in place
I can't turn anything on
Started a big fuel power platform
acoustic cloud
I know I haven't been on lately, but shouldn't we be getting near nuclear power?
radiant zinc
I unlocked it, but it takes a lot
once I build the fuel platform
I'll have enough power to run anything for a while
acoustic cloud
Fair. Honestly it could just be best to not bother with nuclear then, unless we need the byproducts for something, since it also requires a way to dispose of the radioactive waste.
radiant zinc
Got trains in place shipping things around
Need to get sulfur onto the shipping lines and that's everything
acoustic cloud
Very nice.
Hopefully I'll be hopping on someday soon. I'm going to be busy the next couple of days though between some stuff I need to do, and family stuff due to Christmas.
radiant zinc
That'll let me produce the black powder and start sulfuric acid
All good, I've been dividing my time between this and path of exile 2
acoustic cloud
Mine has been divided between Warframe, Marvel Rivals, and V Rising. Mostly Warframe.
radiant zinc
I unlocked drones tonight, but they need fuel
acoustic cloud
Not surprising, but if you can get fueling them setup, they should help a lot with transporting stuff from remote areas, like sulfur.
radiant zinc
And if I set up the oil fuel thing right, I could use that as drone fuel
Its going to produce a crap ton of rubber, which would turn into plastic and then packaged fuel is an option as a balance point
That's my next goal anyhow
It's not super efficient but it works
Just trying to stay focused haha
Off to bed o/
acoustic cloud
Rest well.
radiant zinc
Getting there, when it's done it should be producing 20000mw
better than our measly 2-3k we have now
acoustic cloud
Sounds like a slight improvement.
ivory mulch
panda : doing almost 10x power limit increase
gamer : slight improvement i see
radiant zinc
just need to connect water to the blenders and oil to the refineries at the top
and hope it all works lol
80 fuel generators, 40 refineries, 10 water pumps, and a sink that will probably need to be 2 sinks if the rubber output it too much
the rubber can be turned into recycled plastic, but not sure of the logistics of that yet
radiant zinc
Well, it's working
I need to duplicate the water extractors and run a second line of water, and split the oil lines into two
then wait for it to fill everything up which will probably take all day lol
acoustic cloud
Lol. But once it's going we probably won't have to worry about power again.
ivory mulch
radiant zinc
It produces like 800 rubber /min also
I think I'll siphon some of that off to create fuel containers and packaged fuel
acoustic cloud
So much, lol.
radiant zinc
hmm, not completely efficient
the water flow is off
yeah the whole thing might go down if I can't fix this
acoustic cloud
Oof. I'm sure you'll figure it out though.
radiant zinc
sweet, we're stable
time to overclock blenders and see if I can get excess fuel
no
leave it alone, Panda
ivory mulch
leave it alone, Panda
radiant zinc
full ficsmas production
ivory mulch
huh
so the game just crashed for the first time
thats concerning 
actually concerned regarding temps because it feels like my PC always going on full blast whenever im playing this game
and only for this game as far as i can remember
radiant zinc
I think I've had 2-3 crashes
acoustic cloud
Haven't had any, though yea, from what I understand the game can be rough on PCs. Particularly as your base gets larger.
ivory mulch
radiant zinc
one was from exploding things, one was from me hot swapping jetpack and parachute while falling and then tapping the space bar a bunch
and one was from uh.. I think from a blueprint
acoustic cloud
You mentioning exploding things does remind me of that one time I blew up some rocks and it destroyed the server. Though even then it didn't hard crash on me. It just put me into 1 FPS land until after you rebooted it.
Though Aldi, one thing that might help if you're having performance issues is to segment your base off to different areas of the map, and just ship things from across the distance. I know from some videos in older builds of the game that it at least used to have a lot of trouble doing things if you had too much on screen/nearby, where it had to load in more assets.
ivory mulch
turns out game was defaulting to ultra all this time
lowering to medium kinda stabilize it
radiant zinc
mine did that too
set them to something more reasonable even though I could probably handle it
radiant zinc
today's calendar item is greta
radiant zinc
whoa new creature thing I havnt seen
acoustic cloud
Yea, that's an odd one. Haven't seen it before either.
radiant zinc
ok, time to figure out the main bus line
and see if I can get started on a battery factory for drones
acoustic cloud
radiant zinc
@ivory mulch I saw you log out but not log in lol
ivory mulch
i did say hi but ig you were afk
radiant zinc
yeah, sorry. was filling out job apps
ivory mulch
ah ok2 no worries, gonna have breakfast now 
ivory mulch
im trying to start a nuclear plant on the server
but might need an mk3 miner for a stable sulfur
radiant zinc
oh
Nuclear is crazy
I am just fixing the fuel levels on the oil gens and then I can see about finishing for mk3 miners
I think I just need to make the super computers, I should have all the mats
The electronics area has been running for a while
ivory mulch
Nuclear is crazy
yeah but you really need that for the late-game item productions
radiant zinc
I'll finish this generator upgrade, then make those
I am going to do some planning on paper so I can figure out this train flow
ivory mulch
because producing 1 item with particle accelerator + somersloop'd can take 20kw energy
radiant zinc
Oh geez
I haven't really progressed the server much, just been building and setting things up for next steps
I worked on a dam today at our water fall 🙂
Do we hydro electric in the game? No but it looks neat
ivory mulch
yeh i wish thats an option
radiant zinc
By the time gamer logs on again, I might have the whole base area pretty and organized lol
ivory mulch
also why is me and gamers initial sitting location is now a hole + why is gamer now just a crate
radiant zinc
I don't know
ivory mulch
radiant zinc
I mean, it's not like we can't make all of them again
ivory mulch
tru
radiant zinc
We're fairly stock piled on everything
I even have fabric being made
Synthetic cloth, baby!
The server just backed up and rebooted
radiant zinc
@ivory mulch mk3 miners are avail now
hmm, they needs parts we don't have ready yet
I'll have to work on those
radiant zinc
Ok, tomorrow we figure out the rail logic so I can get things flowing better
I think I'm going to set up to ship sulfur into the line
since it's needed for a bunch of locations
ivory mulch
<@212984563146686464> mk3 miners are avail now
radiant zinc
<a:pepeclappy:809814660680384572>
There's 2 parts you need we don't have producing yet though
ivory mulch
which part?
ivory mulch
oh the fused cube ig
since we dont have nitrogen line yet
also need that for the waste processing i forgot
i'll finish setting up the water part first ig
ivory mulch
gonna have 4 nuclear plants here
shit to build / have :
- miner mk3 + 1 power shard for sulfur
- 8 somersloops for uranium rod production
- concrete / electrorod / water / beam line
- 4 nuclear plants with 12 power thingy
- storage for waste
phase 2 : - 3 blenders for waste processing + silica line
- particle accelerator + 3 power shard + aluminum casing line for plutonium cell
- alternate recipe for plutonium cell
- 2 manufacturer (3 power shard + 4 somersloop each) + heatsink / steel beam / electrorod line for plutonium rod
- awesome sink to sink plutonium rod (150k each + dont have to deal with plutonium waste )
radiant zinc
Organized coal!
radiant zinc
you did this on the server? whoa
I was just over that way and didnt notice lol
I was going to run a train up the back of the main base to that area so we can ship stuff in for nuclear
acoustic cloud
Sorry I haven't gotten around to getting back on and doing more.
radiant zinc
<a:aworryPat:976232062199668776>
all good, It's why I've been slow and just building things
radiant zinc
aldi, encased beams are shipping in now to your area
I'm going to be doubling our aluminum production tomorrow and then updating all the train schedules.
I think I'm going to use that walkway we ran for your beams to bring in sulfur from below, gamer set up an outpost for it but we didnt figure out a shippign method yet. I'm just going to bring it up and run it along the path for now.
Once trains are working better, I have to get batteries going
ivory mulch
im omw home, gonna set up the encased beam line + figure out the electro rod
ivory mulch
thanks for the massive message i guess
ivory mulch
k only need to connect the splitter to the uranium rod line, but the uranium waste radiation gonna be big if we dont have the waste treatment
so im gonna work on the milestone now
also gotta find nitrogen gas source for nitric acid
closest nitrogen gas source
radiant zinc
thanks for the massive message i guess
Lol I unlocked the big signs, gotta use them
radiant zinc
I'm totally using these signs on everything
radiant zinc
closest nitrogen gas source <:KEKHands:996114580189225111>
hmm
ivory mulch
so my game crashed, i joined into the server again, my inventory gone, and i saw my character icon on the map moving northwest
radiant zinc
I see you
ivory mulch
im already out of the game tho
radiant zinc
you're in base
radiant zinc
whoa, what's with these blenders in my roadway?
ivory mulch
whoa, what's with these blenders in my roadway?
if its the one hooked to pipes, thats me trying to start fused cubes + cooling stuff for milestones
radiant zinc
I can try to boot you
radiant zinc
gotta put these blenders into a building up off the ground
also
lol you're still logged in even after a reboot
acoustic cloud
Aldi has died and become a ghost.
radiant zinc
hmm
which one?
is it always a storage unit?
what were you doing during the first crash?
radiant zinc
I full on crashed, unreal report and everything
radiant zinc
so stupid they still havnt fixed the server rebooting when admin leaves
just waiting to see if the train brings rubber or not.
rubber good to go
now to make sure we have enough rubber going to the station
ivory mulch
just need to connect the last conveyor and nuclear is good to go
ivory mulch
so hopefully the nuclear power is good for like
a week hopefully
until the storage for fissile is full
ivory mulch
how do we dispose of it?
cant
gotta turn it to plutonium cells, then plutonium rods, and then you can sink it
ivory mulch
nah thats still tier 8
i got the particle accelerator at the site to generate plutonium cells, but need the alternate recipe + casing belt up there
then feed it to manufacturer with heat sink + steel beam + electrorod to get the plutonium rods, then sink it for 150k-ish points
but until we can get the resources going, better to keep it as the fissile uranium thing
since it has the second lowest radiation
i got like two towers of storage going for fissile
so 2 * 7 * 48 * 500
hm
i'll increase it just in case
radiant zinc
this shows the most efficient grouping of buildings to get whatever you're trying to craft
ivory mulch
only tool i use is the map
increased fission storage so it should be safe for like 100+ hrs
radiant zinc
It is advised to make large farms near the world border featuring dozens of Storage Containers connected in series to concentrate all Waste storage into one area to minimize the area affected by radiation. ```huh. glad we made this in the middle of the map...
we probably should turn it off until we're ready to use it
ivory mulch
```Plutonium Waste cannot be fed into an AWESOME Sink, (legitimately) deleted or...
i mean yea this is why im sinking the rods instead of using it
dealing with plutonium waste is a hassle
radiant zinc
what a pain in the ass
I guess I see why all the youtube videos have the setups like.. in the ocean
ivory mulch
eh mine was fine in a cave
radiant zinc
Well, long term I'd just turn it off
short term to make what we need is manageable
then we can just ship the waste all off to a remote area when we're done building whatever
xD
radiant zinc
If there's a way to get about 1600 sulfur/min, we could get 143gw of power
Using a bunch of rocket fuel alt recipes
radiant zinc
drone ports on the roof of the warehouse now!
Aldi's nuclear uses up all of our high speed connectors
Need to figure out a way to add more
radiant zinc
@ivory mulch is this saying what I think its saying?
you can turn waste into fertile uranium?
ivory mulch
thats what i already did
i have 3 blenders to process + that 2 huge towers to store those fissile uranium thingy
or did you assume uranium and plutonium as the same thing
so lemme make a clear diagram about nuclear resources to make it clear
uranium
V
uranium cell ---> lowest radiation, sinkable
V
uranium rods ---> resource for nuclear power plant, sinkable
V
uranium waste
V
nonfissile uranium ---> 2nd lowest radiation, we already made it here
V
plutonium cell
V
plutonium rods ---> sinkable
V
plutonium waste ---> highest radiation
V
ficsinite ---> tier 9 stuff
V
ficsinite rods
which is why i said the nuclear is fine where it is rn
ivory mulch
Well, long term I'd just turn it off
gotta vent because of this 
radiant zinc
you cant ride on the drones
radiant zinc
ok, drones work
I'm pulling sulfur from gamer's outpost and droning it to the oil fields
Not that we NEED to do this right now, but I can make rocket fuel now I think
ivory mulch
can relate
radiant zinc
radiant zinc
Updated the quartz and sam area
half a building done
stores/produces quartz, processed quartz, and silica
and added processing of sam to make reanimated and flucuators since they're both needed down the line
And potentially could double everything and upgrade the miners if we needed more
acoustic cloud
radiant zinc
started the tower to bring coal, bauxite and nitrogen gas to my oil fields
radiant zinc
finally figured out why my numbers were off at the oil fuel platform
apparently I'm producing so much rubber, mk5 can't keep up
so the lines stall and slow the refineries
going ot have to double the lines
yeah, had 2k rubber clogged
acoustic cloud
That's a lot of rubber.
radiant zinc
we produce about 1000/min
as the byproduct for fuel
and if everything is at 100%, I think we should have surplus fuel
which will let me do rocket fuel
now that I have sulfur and coal belted in
should be able to do rocket fuel, gun powder, and probably could pull off rifle ammo
I could add copper to the bus
acoustic cloud
That looks rather fancy.
radiant zinc
my goal is to fancy everything up
ivory mulch
i miss playing with gamer
radiant zinc
who?
acoustic cloud
Lol. Sounds useful.
radiant zinc
it took a while
but I have geo thermal'd all of the nodes
except like 2
that I didnt see
and it's all attached with wires
so you can hoverpack around most of the map
acoustic cloud
Very nice.
acoustic cloud
I'll probably try to hop on later today/tonight at some point.
I may have stayed up until 6 am playing Code Vein instead. Got distracted doing side stuff. 
radiant zinc
No worries
I think today I'm going to ramp up steel production lines. I have a ton of beams and pipes being made in a new location but I want to see if I can add more modules to it and get all the steel items going in bulk. I saw someone make a giant line for iron north West of the main base using the pipe 8 iron nodes there, I might start that also. Need to bulk up production since the little starter area can't handle where we are at lol
acoustic cloud
The problem with upscaling production is you always need more resources I suppose, lol.
radiant zinc
yeah
it feels like every tier needs a whole new copy of everything you built before
so you end up with like 6 basic factories
to keep up
which I guess is why people make everything modular rather than giant factories of everything
I've found it easier to just pipe in ingots and build what's need to support. Like using steel or cast screws right next to a manufacturer to make a ton of screws for the heavy modular frames, instead of pulling in screws from expanded production
acoustic cloud
Yea, seems easier to do it that way.
Probably not as efficient, all things considered, but significantly less trouble.
radiant zinc
without a lot of space and planning, it's hard to be efficient
acoustic cloud
Yea. probably part of why some people build high up into the air, since it's the only real way to get a ton of space without things getting in the way.
radiant zinc
acoustic cloud
That's really cool looking.
radiant zinc
I saw a fun one where they made a giant ocean tanker in the air above where I was talking about making the iron factory
and they had created chains
attached it to the ground
acoustic cloud
Nice, lol. I kind of forget that you could actually design cool looking bases and do building stuff. Everytime I've seen anyone play the game it always ends up kind of like our base where it's a mess of production everywhere and very much "function over form".
radiant zinc
that's why I've been spending so much time trying to organize lol
I mean, I ripped out the whole starter area to remake it as several floors
but yeah, too much to do still :/
acoustic cloud
Fair, lol. Maybe when I hop on I'll just spend some time playing around building something. Part of why I've been a bit hesitant to hop on is I feel like I've lost track of our goals and production lines and stuff, so it's hard for me to hop back in and find something to focus on.
Maybe starting up a side project to mess with could be a good route for me.
radiant zinc
yeah, just ask
Everything is still kind of centralized
but we have drones now
and a rail system I'm slowly expanding
now that there's the geothermal network
easy to branch off anywhere
Once I get more production stabalized
I'm totally going to just build aestetics things
Most every resource is dimensionally stored
so should be easy to build whatever wherever
acoustic cloud
Fair enough. I do have a couple of ideas, but no idea for sure what I'll do.
radiant zinc
was trying to find uses for the giant coal tower I made in the oil fields
but a biomass thing at the bottom for liquid biomass fuel for jetpacks
half way up I started using the natural terrain
there's a ledge, figured I'd do something silly with it and then see that cave on the left? walled that off quick
full of spider things
acoustic cloud
They do seem to be everywhere.
radiant zinc
Packaged rocket fuel, just needs aluminum
radiant zinc
@acoustic cloud I found a cave where doggos are making nests
what a sick cave too
Tempted to make this the new hub location lol
there's spiders in the rafters :/
radiant zinc
whoa
package rocket fuel is sick for the jetpack you go so fast!
burns quick though
haha it's almost uncontrollable
lol we produce so much of it now
xD
I guess I gotta sink it
120/min
lol we already have 1000
acoustic cloud
<@277531988410236930> I found a cave where doggos are making nests
Capture them. Even though they're probably worthless to us at this point.
acoustic cloud
burns quick though
Nice. The jetpack burns fuel too quickly in general, lol. I feel like to really use it you need to keep multiple stacks of fuel in your inventory.
radiant zinc
Nice. The jetpack burns fuel too quickly in general, lol. I feel like to really ...
liquid biofuel burns really really slow
I only keep 100 on me for like 5 days now and I've burn like.. 14
and since the server hard resets, trees and stuff come back
so it's sustainable to use over time
acoustic cloud
Fair. I don't think we had liquid biofuel when I really tested it. I believe we were still on solid biofuel and it burned through it incredibly quickly.
Plus in general I wasn't a fan of the jetpack because you only get a short burst of thrust before it has to recharge, which wasn't good for covering distances.
radiant zinc
Fair. I don't think we had liquid biofuel when I really tested it. I believe we ...
yeah solid sucks, liquid is awesome
you gotta try it
it'll totally change your opinion of the jetpack
also, can you tell when I started to sink rocket fuel?
acoustic cloud
radiant zinc
these still randomly show up.. 😦
acoustic cloud
Oh so the ones that instantly kill you are still around but not the ones that actually give stuff?
acoustic cloud
Ah, nice.
radiant zinc
We've been producing snowballs for weeks
for our inevitable battle
with the ender dragon
acoustic cloud
radiant zinc
we have like 30k
acoustic cloud
I'm pretty sure in actuality there's more problems with space elevators in theory than just the weight to strength ratio of the materials.
radiant zinc
it would tear out of it's morings
the spinning of the earth can't drag something like that
acoustic cloud
Yea.
It's the kind of thing that is really cool in sci-fi, but physics doesn't agree with it at all.
acoustic cloud
What would you even do with that many? 
radiant zinc
sweet
There's a group that made a global rail system
I added it to the server
so now we can build all over the place and ship supplies
acoustic cloud
Oh?
radiant zinc
bunch of uh stuff I gotta fix though