EPISODE 6

[low tinsel]

Agree 💯.

[floral yew]

Yeah, mom will followed the shadow organization and do whatever they want to protect her kid. Is not ground breaking mystery

This isn’t Marvel what if bruh she doesn’t have a kid doesn’t mean nuke won’t be launch

[coarse ivy]

Nobody said she is the only reason the bomb dropped, house said it was highly likely, it just wasn’t certain on the date untill that happened

[floral yew]

At least Enclave nuking USA is funny enough for me forgive the writing

Bravo Todd Howard

[coarse ivy]

Why do you think that?

[floral yew]

One thing for sure is Fallout 5 will definitely have Enclave faction

Todd might get bold enough and let us join the faction lol

[outer trench]

We will never get to join it

[digital nacelle]

And we will never fully be able to destroy them at this rate.

[coarse ivy]

I want to destroy the brotherhood not the enclave

[digital nacelle]

Never gonna happen; best that can be done is maybe the Brotherhood getting the fuck out of the West Coast and leaving the factions there to their own business.

[tidal kraken]

Yeah Emil and Todd have turned it into the poster boys and love child. I imagine at most what will happen is they get destroyed in the West, and the Heartland is moved to the East.

[coarse ivy]

They are the poster boys but it’s interesting that they have made a firm stance that they are not good guys

[wary dawn]

That's kinda been present in the background for a while, they've just never bothered to try and test the brotherhood's system of beliefs

[coarse ivy]

It was light in fo3 and mostly consolidated in the outcasts and the Pitt lore

They weren’t really the poster boys of the ogs to the same level they are in 3

[high shuttle]

I would argue they actually became poster boys by Tactics, maybe by 2, even?

But that's out of context now
Going back on track

NCR

I need them

[floral yew]

Enclave mogged all because I said so

[outer trench]

They were allwas the poster boys

[undone hazel]

while true, they still understood the brotherhood very well in 3

[floral yew]

Wait. What’s going on

Why are people saying that guy in elevator is Big MT

[undone hazel]

THAT would be a fun idea, and also be so sad since we won't get much more of him

[coarse ivy]

Sounds like some random theory

[outer trench]

He's enclave

Did pepole forget about s1

[floral yew]

ahhh can we stick with Enclave please

It’s super funny if it’s Enclave. Anything else will ruined the fun

[coarse ivy]

Por Que no Los dos?

[outer trench]

He's enclave we see him in the enclave in s1

[coarse ivy]

You can be both

Double agents is the enclaves whole thing

[undone hazel]

well thats who he is around in the future, and also maybe he worked with big MT on behalf of the enclave. There isnt anything to really point to it, but it could theoretically work

[floral yew]

Enclave nuking the world is funnier

[coarse ivy]

Nobody said they did or didn’t

[floral yew]

I know. I just waiting for the reveal to be them and it would be funny

[coarse ivy]

Ight

[visual prism]

I’m not well versed on early fallout lore so if I’m super insanely wrong don’t crucify me pls

Is there any chance that the super mutant we saw was Frank Horrigan? Idk if his armor was like a darth vader situation where he needed it to live and idk if he was destroyed along with the oil rig because I didn’t play the games

[hollow scroll]

No

[visual prism]

Alrighty

[coarse ivy]

He gets ripped in half and exploded in the middle of the ocean

[visual prism]

Oh, yeah that’s not very survivable

[hollow scroll]

I don’t even think that was Marcus

[coarse ivy]

Why would it be Marcus?

Do people only know the one super mutant?

[hollow scroll]

A lot of people were hoping it was, and they have a very similar face

I thought it might’ve been Goris for a second when it shows him slice the pole to free Cooper

[coarse ivy]

I don’t think so

Doesn’t look like him to me, different face shape

[hollow scroll]

But I guess the pole just snapped

[floral yew]

My theory is. Super mutant we saw is neither Master’s original army nor FEV experiment

But he’s escaped FEV test subject from Enclave

[hollow scroll]

Kinda similar

Yeah I think it’s just a new character they made up

[coarse ivy]

(Both are green)

[outer trench]

Super mutants are all ugly and green and look similar

[coarse ivy]

Completely different nose

[hollow scroll]

Also I don’t think Marcus would have the blood bags

[floral yew]

it could be Marcus

[hollow scroll]

Dude was talking about a war and stuff, Marcus is pretty peaceful

[coarse ivy]

Marcus is also happy to be mutant and credits the master not the enclave for his creation

[floral yew]

Thinking about it Enclave does experiment with FEV but they wouldn’t let one of their “test subject” on the loose like that

And only Mutant who might be smart enough to know who’s Enclave is Marcus

[coarse ivy]

Yes the enclave known for being competent in their security

Never has been breached by anyone or escaped from before

[floral yew]

They’re. Very competent with their security

The reason why I keep saying Enclave is funny because this franchise keeps treating Enclave like some kind of invincible shadow faction when they’re just Starship Troopers parody

[outer trench]

Marcus dosent hate humans

[outer trench]

The villain is allwas designed to fail

[hollow scroll]

Enclave are the shadow government Illuminati

[summer bronze]

Neither is this one

[digital nacelle]

And also frankly approaching the Khans's level of cockroachitude at this point.

[outer trench]

He said did

[summer bronze]

Him hating humans as a whole is a misdirect, he's talking about the enclave

[coarse ivy]

He seemed very resentful of humans

Also what else would be in the gore bag

[outer trench]

He says the human hate us and so we must fight them

And stuff like that to cooper

[summer bronze]

Did he use the word humans?

[outer trench]

yes

[tidal kraken]

nah he said 'them'

the implication is humans

specifically ncr and enclave

[summer bronze]

I'm still not ruling out that this is just straight up Marcus

[tidal kraken]

it's not, Ron pearlman said in an interview its a new character, let me actually go find it

[summer bronze]

Maybe he's being... an unreliable narrator

[coarse ivy]

Why would it be him

[hollow scroll]

Ron Perlman too old for that

[coarse ivy]

Like 1 reason indicating that

[tidal kraken]

or, or - they're just flat out not touching 99% of the New Vegas characters aside from House, and Victor. lol

[coarse ivy]

If it was Marcus they would have used Michael dorn

[tidal kraken]

Sure Caesar and Kimball are dead, but only faction leaders have been shown. Marcus wasn't a faction leader, nor does his personality match the one we saw. It's silly to immediately tie it in to an already set character with zero evidence.

[tidal kraken]

Exactly, Michael Dorn is alive and well, and he said he loved voicing Marcus. lol

[coarse ivy]

And Ron says he doesn’t even know what the fuck fallout is

[outer trench]

I just get free sandwiches

[coarse ivy]

It would be funny if they somehow make this character the narrator

[outer trench]

Dumb theory what if the super mutant is the f4 news caster

[summer bronze]

I don't know any other intelligent hulk lookalike in the mojave

[tidal kraken]

Neil.

[summer bronze]

Maybe the NCR destroyed Jacobtown and it really messed him up

[summer bronze]

Ohhh right

But also Marcus is a doctor, right?

[coarse ivy]

Fawks, graham

[tidal kraken]

Again, EVIDENCE. Not headcanon or theories, lol Like sure yeah we can assume that, but idk i highly doubt that is the case - not that the NCR wouldn't do it, but the writer's aversion to touching New Vegas characters

[coarse ivy]

Well not Mojave but there are others

Not all mutants are stupid it’s just a genetic compatibility thing, they aren’t extremely unique

[floral yew]

I forgot Neil is green mutant in released game

I always downloaded fnv restored and they fixed Neil to Nightkin

[summer bronze]

Not Mojave

[coarse ivy]

“Fixed”

[tidal kraken]

Ya, he's canonically green, initially he was meant to be a Nightkin of Tabitha's group.

[coarse ivy]

Same difference Marcus is far from the only intelligent mutant

[summer bronze]

He did treat Cooper with what I'm assuming is medical knowledge

[tidal kraken]

Actually there's more intelligent mutants on the West Coast, more than there is on the East.

East the mutants are much more violent, and aggressive just from the strains we've seen.

[summer bronze]

Unless he just stuck some random shit into him

[tidal kraken]

Uranium is hardly medical knowledge, though it's more mutant knowledge.

[coarse ivy]

It’s not rocket science

He knows ghouls heal from radiation, shove radiation In hole

[summer bronze]

He knew how to treat a ghoul

That's something

We humans don't even all know the basics of treating each other lol

[tidal kraken]

Yes but that's not medical knowledge. That is mutant knowledge. The guy comes across more as an expert on mutants rather than medicine, but who knows.

[floral yew]

he's John Supermutant

[summer bronze]

Yeah but he also knew it applied to a ghoul

[coarse ivy]

Ghouls are the only ones it applies to, it’s not unknown that ghouls heal from radiation

That’s fairly common wasteland knowledge

[tidal kraken]

Yes because it's not medical knowledge that radiation heals ghouls. It's common wasteland knowledge.

[coarse ivy]

Also no Marcus isn’t a doctor

Nothing at all has pointed to this being Marcus besides “is green”

[summer bronze]

Isn't the average wastelander basically braindead though

[coarse ivy]

Depends on the region

[delicate siren]

Does anyone else feel like this season is like one big setup for Season 3?

I mean there are only 2 episodes left and it feels like we're not even halfway through the story.

[summer bronze]

Does it not also have its nuances, like which type of radiation heals in what way?

[coarse ivy]

Yes, I think hanks story will end but not much else will be resolved

[coarse ivy]

No, all radiation in fallout is magic green glow

[delicate siren]

I mean Mister House has had what, 3 scenes so far?

[summer bronze]

Btw why is it that ghoul enemies in the games aren't nearly as durable as the ones here?

[delicate siren]

All of them being flashbacks.

[summer bronze]

Or maybe my builds are OP

[coarse ivy]

They aren’t the main character

Also a bullet to the brain is far more deadly then anything the ghoul has received

Ghouls are pretty tough, the one guy in underworld had his whole arm reattached

[summer bronze]

Wait then who was it behind the cure in Jacobtown?

[coarse ivy]

The human enclave doctor

Marcus is just the sheriff/mayor

[summer bronze]

Man I really need to replay

[tidal kraken]

In the West? surprisingly no, in the East? more so, yeah. But even then - Common knowledge spreads, it's been almost 300 years since the bombs fell, ghoul knowledge is pretty common, now adays.

[delicate siren]

Also Jacobstown is also destroyed, right?

[summer bronze]

Remaster soon plz

[coarse ivy]

We have zero idea

[summer bronze]

Thaddeus survived an arrow to the neck

[coarse ivy]

Thaddeus isn’t a ghoul

[outer trench]

15 years they can travel

[summer bronze]

What

[coarse ivy]

It’s a new mutant, we haven’t seen every single super mutant

[coarse ivy]

He’s not a ghoul fam

[outer trench]

Theres more talking mutants then Marcus

[visual locust]

Dude could just be a new character

[summer bronze]

Then what is he

[coarse ivy]

Ghouls don’t grow mouths on their necks

[visual locust]

Another filthy mutie

[coarse ivy]

He’s a non generic mutant likely FEV

[tidal kraken]

He's a mutant, a new one, maybe something entirely evolved. Ghouls don't sprout mouthes on the napes of their necks.

[coarse ivy]

Maximus and Thaddeus were just sheltered little racists who don’t know the difference between mutants

[summer bronze]

Did I miss a scene, or?..

[tidal kraken]

probably, from the trailers

[coarse ivy]

It was in the pre season trailer

[summer bronze]

Oh

[undone hazel]

Yea Thaddeus is definitely not a ghoul, the second mouth does make me think this is gonna be a Harold ass character

[coarse ivy]

Either way ghouls don’t heal the way his foot did

[outer trench]

Fev mutants aren't really common

[delicate siren]

I wasn't sure in the beginning of the season but now I can confidently say that Season 2 is much weaker than 1.

[coarse ivy]

Fev no but there are other people in the wasteland with defects

[summer bronze]

I just realized Deadpool is basically a modern day version of that

[coarse ivy]

Okay

[undone hazel]

I could not disagree more, season 2 is significantly better imo

[delicate siren]

Season 1 felt like it told a complete story.

[visual locust]

Season 2 isn't over what

[coarse ivy]

The season isn’t done yet

[outer trench]

Maybe bc s2 isent done yet

[coarse ivy]

Also it’s a multi season story

[delicate siren]

There's no way they'll wrap it up in 2 episodes.

[undone hazel]

You, you are complaining that an ongoing season of a show doesn't feel complete?

[coarse ivy]

If you wrap it all up in this season what’s the point of making another

[outer trench]

S1 didn't wrap it allup either

[visual locust]

They already said it's a multi season story

[coarse ivy]

A new hope is the weakest movie because darth Vader is still alive

[delicate siren]

Still the first season had a clear three-act structure.

[undone hazel]

Breaking Bad is shit because walter white is Heisenberg for like 5 seasons, are the showrunners stupid and can't wrap up the story

[delicate siren]

With a beginning, a middle and an end.

[coarse ivy]

“My show needs to be generic and predictable”

[visual locust]

There's multiple episodes left

How can you say this doesn't have a structure

[delicate siren]

Maybe "a complete story" wasn't the right way to put it, "a complete arc" is more like it.

[undone hazel]

complaining that a season of a show doesn't have a beginning, middle, and an end while it's still ongoing is like, truly bonkers

[delicate siren]

I don't believe that S2 will be the end of the New Vegas arc.

[undone hazel]

Like when you get an hour and 20 minutes into a 2 hour movie are you mad that it has no ending

[undone hazel]

even if thats true, what is the issue with that lol

[delicate siren]

Because they're artificially stretching out the story, very little of note has happened in the season.

Several arcs are also weaker in quality compared to their Season 1 counterparts.

Notably the Vault and the Brotherhood plotlines.

Like does anyone genuinely give a shit about the incest club or the jock guy getting married to the overseer?

[royal temple]

Yes

[tidal kraken]

Yeah, the arc was completed in s1, now s2 is a different arc.
It's not stretching out the story it's more that it's just continuing but with more to the narrative. The first arc was lucy resucing her dad, now she knows her dad is not who she thought he was - now she's hunting him down.

[violet barn]

Bro they need to like

[tidal kraken]

Maximus's story too can be chopped up into different arcs, that make sense.

[violet barn]

They need to drop vault 33 and 32 bro

[coarse ivy]

Each storyline has a complete arch, there just isn’t a single season wide all character arch to follow, the vault has an arc, norm has an arc, Lucy has an arc, cooper pre war has an arc

[violet barn]

Or they need to change the structure of the episodes for season 3

[undone hazel]

They really wrapped up lucys story in the first season where she leaves to find her dad and then doesn't find her dad

[tidal kraken]

Nah but circumstances and context changes. No? She was under false pretenses in the 1st season, now she's not.

[royal temple]

I don't think we're done with vegas after the finale

[tidal kraken]

It will have some relevance, but afaik we're going to a new location.

[violet barn]

I hope they don’t do Van Buren in the show because i want it to be Fallout 5’s location

[undone hazel]

Correct, the context changes but the arc of the character goes on, the idea that the first season told some totally self contained story and the second season is meandering feels intensely silly to me

[delicate siren]

So the storylines are

• Norm uncovering the mystery behind FEV
• The Brotherhood starting a civil war over a precious relic
• Lucy hunting down the man who is responsible for the destruction of one of the cradles of post-nuclear civilization
• Cooper uncovering the mystery behind who started the war
• The incest club ate too many cakes and now the overseer lady is mad 🙁

https://tenor.com/view/bigbird-one-of-these-things-is-not-like-the-others-gif-11251276

[undone hazel]

You can reduce anything to make it sound dumb

[violet barn]

Maaybe it’s just because I don’t find Vault Dweller characters to be interesting (with exceptions)

[coarse ivy]

It is the dwellers growing distrustful of the management of the vault and uncovering the experiment

[delicate siren]

They're all walking stereotypes.

[tidal kraken]

oh, sorry. I don't mean to imply it's meandering. I agree with you, if that's not clear.

[coarse ivy]

Growing up in a metal tube will make you weird

[violet barn]

I think Norm is interesting because of how radically different he is from your average John Vaultie and Lucy is interesting because she isn’t fully brutal or fully naive

[undone hazel]

The nature of the club isn't what's important, its the empowerment of the vault dwellers against a tyrannical leader and for us to see how that plays out. The fact that the vessel for it was a club that involved incest support groups is not the point at all. The club could have been about toe nail clippings and it would have had the exact same effect. It's a group that is wasting resources and feeling overly emboldened with time due to their upbringing and history.

[delicate siren]

Norm has his own storyline now though.

[violet barn]

Yeah I’m just saying why I find him interesting

[undone hazel]

Norms story line is independent of the vault dwellers and will then most likely reinter twine with the vault dweller story line the same way the ghoul and lucy have done many times. It's an incredibly common way to make a show or movie.

[violet barn]

Vault Dwellers are always characterized as blissfully happy and naive even after they spend a while outside of the vault

[violet barn]

ella did a pretty good job of making this Not be uber annoying

The player characters don’t really fall into this trap either because A. you know what the wasteland is and B. they don’t do stupid stuff unless you do stupid stuff

[quasi jackal]

I'm starting to think it was just House that Hank was trying to talk to

[hollow scroll]

House was the easy explanation. Could still be the Enclave

[quasi jackal]

Cuz if House didn't get the cold fusion he never gives VT the mind chips

So would make sense that Hank was so obsessed with it after seeing it once and then never again til post war

[hollow scroll]

I’m thinking the body double screws him over somehow

[delicate siren]

Also are the Legion cannibals now?

[violet barn]

Some have probably went back to it

[coarse ivy]

Vault tec could still get the chips somehow

[delicate siren]

Probably not the craziest thing considering that most legionnaires are ex-tribals.

[tidal kraken]

Caesar accepted the White gloves and said they can feast on corpses

im p sure he told them they can eat the NCR after hoover dam, and they're allowed to eat a portion of their conquests

[coarse ivy]

Finally

[tidal kraken]

how did the mind chips get into the vault tec building though if he never gave them to them.

pre-war I mean

Cause when Hank arrives he said he's going to continue where they left off, initially

unless Vault tec stole it anyway is the implication

[plucky zealot]

Vault-tec is controlled by the institute

[tidal kraken]

[delicate siren]

In the end of the season they will reveal that Fisto is the mastermind behind The Great War.

[quasi jackal]

Barb clearly stated robco has multiple vaults to do whatever they want for research

[ancient barn]

Well they were originally CIT

Probably got some of their tech there

[snow lark]

200 years ago

[hasty ether]

I think it's a little implied that the NCR wiped out Jamestown

During the scene where Super mutant Pearlman talks to Cooper, there's an NCR graffiti that he throws a rock at

Besides the fact that there's discrimination against mutants in general in the NCR, the massacre of Jamestown could explain why super mutants in the Mojave seem even more scarce and in hiding than they were in NV.

[snow lark]

NCR didn't send soldiers to Jacob's town In fnv

[quasi jackal]

Quite sad

[quasi jackal]

Mercenaries sent by a senator to provoke mutants into attacking to advance anti mutant agendas

[snow lark]

that was a ncr senator who sent mercenaries to try to get the mutants to attack

[hasty ether]

Still, it was known by the mutants that the NCR was sending mercs to hunt down mutants

[snow lark]

i just often see people say NCR themselves sent the mercs

in fo2 there was super mutant rangers

[ancient barn]

X-Men

[hasty ether]

It doesn't really matter, because if the mutants were killed at Jamestown by NCR-affiliated mercs, they'll associate it with the NCR

[urban spade]

We support mr house ncr bad

[digital nacelle]

House at the very least deserves Cold Fusion; dude's the only halfway-trustworthy faction that can make use of it meaningfully.

[snow lark]

I love NCR. and I think the nest fnv ending is to side with Mr. House

[urban spade]

I support mr house

[snow lark]

The movjave campaign was a disaster

[digital nacelle]

Especially since the Courier either apparently died or legitimately did nothing worth a damn fifteen years ago.

[snow lark]

we don't know

[quasi jackal]

Yea and if he's successful it would propagate more anti super mutant sentiments

I hope nightkin aren't extinct

Lily deserved nothing bad

[snow lark]

im just glad it's a intelligent mutant compared to east coast ones

[small canopy]

No Lily, no Raul

I’m about to turn into one of those hatewatchers

Avellonewasright

[small canopy]

For a split second I was like “ITS GORIS.” but then I was disappoint

[snow lark]

we don't need lily or raul or goris or marcus to appear

[ancient barn]

I mean House is just gonna horde the shit outta it and only use it for himself and his own machines and Strip.

House is not Altruistic if anything he's the opposite

[ancient barn]

I mean there are plenty of stupid Supermutants on the West Coast with the Master ony having a 10% sucess rate even in the best circumstance. Not to mention the Gen 2s.

[tidal kraken]

Yeah. And people hate house so much they ignore all the citizens of Vegas that would benefit from it.

[small canopy]

I agree we don’t need it but by that same logic I don’t see any reason why the show should be void of pre-established characters

[tidal kraken]

It super depends on the strain, too. East Coast strains are hyper aggressive though is the thing, and often intelligence among Mutants is outright killed or shunned. Fawkes literally was confined cause Fawkes didn't immediately attack humans.

[small canopy]

(Especially when Danny Trejo is like right there)

[distant jay]

Danny Trejo is too old, man. If they were to bring Raul back it'd be too much.

[tidal kraken]

It's not voiding it's AVOIDING. They don't wanna touch FNV established characters and I don't blame them. No matter how or what way the characters will be portrayed, people will just shit on it. Even if they get it right.

[undone hazel]

considering the entire quest is about how Raul is a super old man I feel like he kinda can't be too old to play him lol

[tidal kraken]

I'd rather then establish new characters, and leave the previous ones are intact.

[distant jay]

Now, maybe if they confirmed Veronica as being alive and getting Felicia Day to play her, I'd be on board. Because I love my little surrogate sister from the Brotherhood.

[small canopy]

… people are gonna shit on it no matter what

[undone hazel]

I agree with this, I'm happy with seeing house and Victor, I could maybe handle one more returning but thats it, no others plz

[tidal kraken]

But even MORE will shit on it if they do.

[small canopy]

I’m not asking for like a recurring role. It would’ve been a nice little cameo though.

[distant jay]

"But, but, I put a cap in that character's ass! How are they still alive?! Zero out of ten this whole show!" -- Literally comments I've seen already.

[small canopy]

I don’t think he’s too old. Especially with some Ghoul makeup? I feel like he even expressed interest in the role online

[tidal kraken]

They're super self-aware dont kid yourself, the showrunners made a joke about fnv fans not burning down his home. They're not dumb.
I understand what you're saying but again, why touch established characters. It's the same thing I get pissed at Disney for with SW. I'm ngl, I don't have the confidence Bethesda will nail Obsidian's telling of the characters exactly. So I'd rather this approach where they just avoid it.

[distant jay]

They have absolutely nailed House and Victor though. Then again, Victor's not hard to nail.

[tidal kraken]

Making new characters on the West Coast they can use to tell a narrative that they specifically want to tell.

[small canopy]

I’d love to walk onto the set and be like “alright we’re starting over. You! YES YOU! Nameless guy in the ranger outfit! You’re the new star of the show now! Keep the helmet on or you’re fired.”

[distant jay]

You're gonna turn it into Fallout: Red Star aren't you?

[tidal kraken]

Yes, but I was going to say House is less harder to nail cause of examples like Andrew Ryan who followed the similar vein. And the example of Howard Hughes is well known in HW. So House himself is not exactly difficult to nail, but consider this - they nailed his personality, and his persona. But we haven't yet to delve AS DEEP into the character as we did in FNV.

[distant jay]

I think we're gonna see more of Pre-War House before the season's done.

[small canopy]

No, we’re doing a 1:1 of my Wild Card playthrough, sans DLC (unless they want to give me 14 episodes)

[tidal kraken]

For sure, but I will be actually shocked and impressed if they delve AS DEEP into his character as Obsidian did.

[distant jay]

"So basically, I'm turning this show into an anthology series and we're gonna leave the cliffhanger from Season 1 unresolved. I just wanna canonize my NV playthrough."

[small canopy]

See? This guy gets it.

[distant jay]

That's a horrible idea.

[small canopy]

Season 1 will be retconned entirely and replaced at a later date with a show based on Fallout 1

Pay them and tell them to go home

[distant jay]

What are you gonna do, use the film treatment from the Interplay days as a springboard? lol

[small canopy]

I changed my mind, the entirety of season 1 is a pre war flashback

We’ll call it… Maxson

[distant jay]

You know what

A full origin story of the Brotherhood of Steel as a miniseries would go hard.

And finally give us T-51 suits.

[outer trench]

Roger maxon killing unarmed scientists

[distant jay]

Killing monsters.*

[outer trench]

He regrets killing them

[distant jay]

He shouldn't.

[tidal kraken]

You put that into the universe, and it's probably gonna happen. Can see a prequel spin off with Roger Maxson already. Smh.

[distant jay]

It can't be any worse than ShoddyCast's quest mod version for Fallout 4.

[distant monolith]

They also injected Ron Perlman with real FEV so that he can have an authentic acting performance as the super mutant

[distant jay]

Naw, naw. He was a west coast mutie. He wasn't injected, he got dipped.

[tidal kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-1-fallout-fev-the-master-gif-11790937452286209576

[distant jay]

Yep, just like that.

[midnight lily]

Lucy plot: I need to find my dad and bring him to justice!

Norm subplot:

[silk cape]

I need to survive

[visual locust]

Maximus subplot:

[midnight lily]

They’re no Canadians, they’re abominations

[summer bronze]

Roadtrip!

[summer bronze]

Same. Guy.

[silk cape]

Oh canada

[wary dawn]

Date jumped forward, date was further back previously

(wasn't it?)

[summer bronze]

"Ghouls. Mutants. Canadians. We're kin."

[frosty basin]

back in the day when I was making LEGO animations and involved in that community I voice acted a military general in a funny short (that honestly was very funny!) and my character nuked Canada because someone wasted my time by mentioning Canada.
Just felt appropriate to mention lmao

[deft marten]

I'm watching the last episode of season 2. So the enclave dropped the bombs? And what is fallout 4 cannon ending now with all the stuff that happened?

[blissful jackal]

Calling it now: Final episode of the season will be the true Enclave reveal

[urban spade]

Theres a war coming

[outer trench]

What if fisto is a vault tec spy and that's how he found the chicken fucker

[digital birch]

This is just the Enlcave

https://tenor.com/view/enclave-fallout-2-gif-670157946705915571

[rapid patrol]

this could easily be resolved as this is just a typical control panel across tech corporations

like how everyone uses a windows laptop idk

[digital birch]

Either BoS or Minutemen

All we know is the Institute went

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-mushroom-cloud-atomic-bomb-bomb-boom-gif-4464831

[wary dawn]

2 more episodes coming, more information to accompany it

[digital birch]

What is with Ron Pearlman and getting the coolest roles

Live Action Super Mutant loner

[wary dawn]

They must've gotten a magician to do the makeup

[digital birch]

Optimus Primal

[visual locust]

They gave him F.E.V.

[digital birch]

And the Crime Lord of a black market Kaiju business

[visual locust]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-1-fallout-fev-the-master-gif-11790937452286209576

[digital birch]

Im fine with the CGI mutant

Really no other way to do it

[wary dawn]

He better kill someone in power armor

[digital birch]

Ron?

[wary dawn]

Yeah

[ancient barn]

Im really worried about any more mutants that might show up for a bigger plot

[wary dawn]

I don't care who goes but someone has to go down

[digital birch]

Idk if he is returning

[ancient barn]

the effects budget has gotta be huge for a show

[wary dawn]

I doubt they'd have him show up and not bring it back up

[digital birch]

He got his cool monologue

[digital birch]

He'll be back to narratate Fallout 5

[wary dawn]

I suspect there might be a link between him and dogmeat somehow but that's a crackpot theory to explain what is a very minor plot hole

[ancient barn]

They already had to kinda cheap their way through most of the scene by having it a big cloak in shadow and only show him for a few seconds

[digital birch]

Probably because the show wants to be mostly practical

Which it does amazingly

Man they even had a practical vertibird

[wary dawn]

It's a good thing Amazon favors the IP right now

[wary dawn]

how did they do that

[digital birch]

I really hope we get more practical effects instead of Modok

[digital birch]

If you watch the scenes you can tell they made a base and walls

Sadly not the full thing

[wary dawn]

Oh alright

[digital birch]

That would be the Osprey

https://tenor.com/view/transformers3-v22-helicopter-gif-19105702

Or the Blackhawk

Pick your favorite

[tidal kraken]

it is, majority of the budget goes to the effects. If you watch/look at BTS stuff. It's insane the amount of equipment, tools, vfx, and programs are needed/used.

[ancient barn]

Im just thinking a Unity storyline is probably gonna be impossible for the budget

[tidal kraken]

isn't this thing like functionally a massive piece of garbage IRL

[slate walrus]

theres that sc of maximus in the pa fighting the deathclaw which is just a dummy on the end of a stick lol

crazy how well they put it all together

[digital birch]

The BoS being almost entirely practical and looking better than modern CGI is amazing

[digital birch]

Oh 100% but the idea is there

[wary dawn]

The reveal from fallout shelter that the NCR power armor is indeed salvaged just makes Titus seem a bit sad

[tidal kraken]

they did so well with it tbh

[wary dawn]

He went down in T-60 to a bear, maximus is gonna fistfight a deathclaw in scavenged power armor

[tidal kraken]

yeah like, when i saw that it lowkey reminded me of OG SW

[slate walrus]

i was so surprised how much of the deathclaw was practical

[tidal kraken]

I called this, no one believed me

[urban spade]

Titus was a weak ass

[tidal kraken]

i said this up and down, everyone called me INSANE.

[slate walrus]

im gonna miss maximus' iconic t60 suit with the bear scratch

[wary dawn]

It is a huge improvement from the stuff they were dealing with in NV, I wouldn't have expected it to be a salvaged model at all tbh

[tidal kraken]

y'all had me feeling like fucking Charlie out of ASIP. lol
The way it was structured together looked rustic, and mishmashed, to me. Especially the blades. Like the version in FO76 looks ten times cleaner. The one in the show? way more salvaged.

[frosty basin]

Maximus definitely has a few power armor related perks now in S2

[wary dawn]

I forgot about the blades
It being salvaged is pretty believable given the whole NCR stylization too, the surprising bit to me is the fact that they're seemingly keeping the easier use line from NV

[outer trench]

Ironic fallout and elder scrolls both have a,faction called the blades and legion

[snow lark]

and they both have a location called raven rock

[visual locust]

both legions are based

[digital birch]

Honestly the effects may be my favorite part of the show

[tidal kraken]

"The Legion are just puppets to the Thalmor!"

[visual locust]

if only they knew the truth

[cinder lintel]

With only 2 episodes left, it seems pretty clear that Episode 8 will likely be a big Enclave reveal similar to Vault-Tec in the final episode of Season 1, and they would be the main antagonist in the 'coming war' hinted at by the Super-Mutant to the Ghoul, with a new location is somewhere up north where the Enclave compound that Wilzig escaped from is. I wonder where it's going to be though:

1. Commonwealth? Chicago? Seattle?
2. Canada? ( With some tie-in to Stephanie Harper/Flashbacks to the annexation? )
3. Alaska?

I think it's probably going to be somewhere in 1 but I'm really hoping for 3 because that would make a lot of sense - Enclave unleashed the Deathclaws there first and while it is the main frontier against China, it would've probably been relatively less impacted by the nukes than Mainland America, as well as the post-war faction turmoil. It would be pretty realistic for the Enclave to have a major hidden base or vault somewhere in Alaska

[visual locust]

Texas RAHHHH

[cinder lintel]

Granted I have no idea how Wilzig could've walked all the way from there to California without hijacking a vertibird, but

[digital birch]

I still want Grand Canyon Fallout

[snow lark]

i mean Alaska was a huge part of the war, as it was the last resource was right

[digital birch]

Rad Rabbits are right there

[cinder lintel]

But then again characters seem to be trekking across vast distances between states on foot all the time in the show

[outer trench]

Show whould be boring if half a esp was it just walking in a empty desert

[cinder lintel]

By the way, it's 460 kilometers from Santa Monica to Las Vegas, which would take approximately 9 to 14 days of constant walking including rest stops to traverse by foot, so that's how long The Ghoul apparently intended to keep Lucy unconscious for

Must've been one hell of a dart ( Which still didn't work though, presumably because of the Buffout in her system, but it actually should've worked if you take the Ghoul's words at face value )

[runic mauve]

ngl im liking it but i dont like the mind control automated man thing w mr house

I feel like the writers forgot how much house was against slavery

[digital birch]

"Hey she's awake" bonk

[cinder lintel]

The silver lining is.... Mr.House himself actually doesn't seem that interested in the technology since he's selling it to Vault-Tec for cold fusion

[cinder lintel]

"Hey you... you're finally awake"
wagon rolls across the Mojave

[digital birch]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-intro-awake-finally-awake-gif-22633549

[urban spade]

Commonwealth has been hinted several times this season

[cinder lintel]

Beneath the Commonwealth, there is a pestilence... known as... your flair

Give me liberty or give me Shaun, as the saying goes.

[urban spade]

Liberty prime?

[cinder lintel]

Communist threat detected

Deploying freedom bombs.

[untold arrow]

Fallout season 5 episode 6
Mr.house comes back in a synth body and cooper becomes a human again because FEV or something

[cinder lintel]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fh8mr9hv1erdg1.jpeg

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Ffrepc562bfdg1.png

Totally not a member of The Enclave, guys. Just a good old-fashioned patriotic side-character with no influence at all

[runic mauve]

She’s probably not a member of the enclave

[outer trench]

Not a enclave flag

[slate walrus]

i got the impression she was just supposed to represent the regular politicians who were becoming powerless because of the corporations growing more influential than the government and the enclave hijacking what little power the govt had left

[runic mauve]

It’s well known the enclave (primarily in Appalachia) executed all the congressmen / women who were t apart of it

[cinder lintel]

I have the feeling that she's fighting that good fight for a Better America.. if you catch my drift

[runic mauve]

I think it shows how powerless actual politics who want to do good are and are ignored

[cinder lintel]

I know, but it's also used by the Enclave

[runic mauve]

uhhhhh there’s an E

[outer trench]

The one used by the enclave has a e in the middle

[runic mauve]

it’s well known that tons of congressmen were executed by the enclave also

[slate walrus]

thats just the normal american flag in the fallout universe

[cinder lintel]

Hmm true, I actually forgot abou that for a hot minute

[runic mauve]

Unironically I think she represents Bernie 💀

[cinder lintel]

Weren't some of them masquerading as regular Congressmen or politicians themselves though while secretly belonging to The Encalve?

[runic mauve]

not many congressmen were actually apart of the enclave

That’s why in 76 the enclave started to execute all the congressmen who got to the bunker even though the enclave had no plans to keep them there

[cinder lintel]

I mean we already had one Moldaver in the show, I don't know if we need another temu version of her

[runic mauve]

Moldaver knows way too much

[urban spade]

Isnt she dead

[wary dawn]

Moldaver has been wrong about everything so far lol

[cinder lintel]

This is why I'm suspicious of Diane, if she doesn't have any hidden agendas then she's just filling the same character role we had with Moldaver. Also another point is that even if someone is part of the Encalve they wouldn't hold up the modified flag in the pre-war and give themselves away

[wary dawn]

Well, everything pre war at least

[cinder lintel]

Someone also said that Cooper gives Diane Welch the cold fusion core in the promo for episode 7, and ultimately it ends up in the Enclave's hands, so maybe there's a connection

[wary dawn]

We shall see what happens in episode 7

[cinder lintel]

Could be just because they kill her though

[wary dawn]

That seems like the direction they're going

[runic mauve]

Wait wdym modified

[cinder lintel]

With the E

I actually don't really know if the Enclave came up with the 'E' before the Great War, or if they even identify as 'The Enclave' at that point ( Because the name sort of implies a post-war Enclave of survivors )

But they do consider themselves the true leaders of America so if they were in public they'd probably just use the US flag

[tidal kraken]

The cabinet. Secretaries.

[runic mauve]

The enclave consists of the president, some secretaries, high ranking military officials, scientists, other popular politicians/bureacrats

fallout really did happen because transistors were never mainstream lol

[wicked nimbus]

I’m finishing fallout 1 again today

[gaunt compass]

Ok hold the phone was that Markus who helped the Ghoul out??

[gleaming trench]

Nothing is confirmed yet:)

I hope it’s someone we know tho

[gaunt compass]

I mean it sounds like him

Smells like him

Wonder if it tastes like him

[gleaming trench]

Unrelated but I was thinking earlier about how Cooper calls Barbara a monster for sacrificing the whole world for her family only for him to turn into a ghoul and spend 200+ years killing and torturing, including giving Lucy up to Hank for his family lmao

[gleaming trench]

Taste 😭???

[gaunt compass]

What have you guys not got smellevision and tastevision? Peasants

[gleaming trench]

Haven’t gotten the update yet

[gaunt compass]

That’s how I play all my video games, including new vegas

You wanna know what fisto tastes like?

[gleaming trench]

Not really no

[orchid tapir]

Wonder if we'll see the house doubles fate

[ancient barn]

I doubt its Marcus, Marcus is very level headed I don't see him calling for a human mutant conflict. He's always wanted co-existence after the Master fell

I feel its building that he's a former Unity member or at least one of the Gen 2's by the Enclave

[dense solar]

I really feel like they need more episodes or longer episodes..just too many plot lines for 40 mins

[dense solar]

Definitely left an ominous ending for jacobstown...the show just makes me want a new Vegas sequel even more

[coarse ivy]

It is nothing like Marcus at all besides being green

[wicked swallow]

He called her a "monster" before he became one. I dont think he wanted to become what he became. In the previous episode he looks at himself in the mirror at the bar and you can tell he doesnt know who's looking back at him any more. (Same with Lucy in this episode) After 200 years, the Ghoul is finally seeing regret in what he's become and has done, IMO. He knew Lucy was his bargaining chip from the get.. he knows he has to, but he also knows he shouldnt. You can see his remorse. These last few episodes are the first times we've seen the Ghoul actually afraid (at the deathclaws) and remorse when he hands Lucy over to the Chicken-fluffer. A lot of back story happened in this episode, but I wish we saw the actual impact on his conscience for turning Lucy over. But, I have a strong feeling we'll see that next episode. Holy fucking word wall. lmao sorry x_x;;

[heavy tusk]

I want to know about this other player

Since it was literally the title of the episode

[tidal kraken]

The Enclave. . .?

Did you nit pick up on all the references?

[heavy tusk]

Ehh probably

[tidal kraken]

They literally threatened Barbara. Lmao

[heavy tusk]

I just kind of casually watch the show and an imagine what it would look like of the ncr and minutemen on their battles but yeah Enclave being the secret player kind of works

[heavy tusk]

Why did the Enclave guy bring cold fusion to moldaver tho

[tidal kraken]

He betrayed the Enclave, probably became disillusioned by the faction itself. Didn't want to be apart of it anymore. He broke several rules and protocols before even betraying them anyway. Evident he stopped caring about being on their side.

[heavy tusk]

OHH right

[wicked swallow]

I'm guessing we'll find out in the next few episodes. Since they dropped him being at least frozen. I'm guessing he get's it from Coop instead of it going to House.

[tidal kraken]

Not frozen, the Post-war version is younger than the pre-war one.

[wicked swallow]

OH fuck he did steal it, I forgot about that

[heavy tusk]

Clone perhaps?

[tidal kraken]

Probably a clone.

[heavy tusk]

That or weird bts shenanigans

[tidal kraken]

Yeah, something of the sort. I didn't catch the pre-war one was so old until later.

[heavy tusk]

I hope despite everything the NCR (my goat and my wife) prevails

[wicked swallow]

Nice pick up, I didnt notice that.

[tidal kraken]

It makes me wonder if they tried using the 'Gary' method. Lol but I'm sure we'll find out, that's a big twist. Doubt they leave it unanswered

[wicked swallow]

I think the NCR is in shambles until at least next season. The old bro was taken by Hank. And if that happened.... what else happened behind the scenes?

[heavy tusk]

Tbf that was the sort of Mojave chapter of the NCR. We don't know what became of the NCR in around Dayglow, Redding, Hub and Boneyard

[wicked swallow]

mhm

[heavy tusk]

I'm actually curious to see how Vault City and New Reno are holding up

[heavy tusk]

I feel like most likely they're in some interim state or under an emergency junta or wtv

[wicked swallow]

I dont think the NCR is completely in shambles, just in this region. I'm sure we'll see them back in some form now that the Legion and BoS is weakened in NV.

[heavy tusk]

Oh for sure

[heavy tusk]

I think the reason the region around Shady Sands and Boneyard? is back to a desolate wasteland is becuz the Brotherhood we're a bunch of opportunistic shitheads resumed their war with NCR after Shady got bombed and kind of went stomping around the NCR

I hate the Brotherhood kind of they're lwk despots

[wicked swallow]

I get that it's a TV show and the cold fussion relic is the mcguffin but no one has even mentioned the Dam, yet.

[heavy tusk]

All they do is aura farm but like in reality they're a military dictatorship

Or in stellaris' terms since apparently the Brotherhood elects Elders democratically (correct me) they're a military commisarriat

I feel like without the Legion or Enclave they're the villains

[wicked swallow]

BoS has always been a weird inbetween good and bad. They think they're good, but they dont always do good things. Like Max's arc is showing.

[heavy tusk]

The East Coast was good for a while becuz Lyons

[wicked swallow]

Yeah but even Maxon is kinda... not-so-good but good enough.

Maxson*

[heavy tusk]

The Brotherhood imo were at their peak in

wait idk abt fo2 but in fo1 and fo3 they were the good guys

[wicked swallow]

FO3 also had a faction that were good that broke off of the BoS.

I cant remember what they were called. I want to say Outcasts.

But what I mean is that they knew the BoS was a weird tech cult and wanted to be better than that.

Share instead of horde, or something along those lines.

[regal whale]

Fo3 brotherhood was good because they'd already had that internal conflict. They'd realised they weren't the good guys and that isolationism would ruin them.

They effectively came pre fixed. Except the outcasts who were the other side to that.

In the other games that's usually the thing the people in it have to realise and change.

[heavy tusk]

We call them Lyons Brotherhood round these parts

The outcasts were actually the ones that felt like the brotherhood should continue being a stupid fucking tech cult

Unfortunately Arthur Maxson came along

Say is Hank McLean part of the Enclave

[glossy lion]

Maximus: “i couldnt let him kill the ghoul children!!!”
Hancock and the rest of the ghouls in goodneighbor:
https://tenor.com/view/golden-freddy-five-nights-at-freddy's-fnaf-ultimate-custom-night-ucn-gif-9084129085048418884

[wicked swallow]

I'm not so sure he is. In episode one he communicates "I'm continuting where you left off and I'm making progress.." or some such. And it's fact now that House, or RobCo came up with the implants that Hank is now using in this episode. But since they traded that tech for Cold Fusion... and the Enclave is at least pushing Vault Tech in a certain direction.... maybe? We're also learning that Vault 31'ers are.. different, maybe not exactly Bud's Buds.... as Bud or Vault Tech thought they were.... who knows? 😮

I think Hank was reaching out to House. But we have yet to see if House still exists. The Enclave will probably turn out the be the bad guy, but not this season. The finale will be the Ghoul and the Wasteland saving Lucy.

||I think the other Howards are dead and long since dead||

[delicate siren]

Am I the only one who's bothered by the fact that the ranger and the legionnaire Hank has captured are so focused on trying to kill each other?

They've been kidnapped and implanted with a mysterious chip, you'd think they would have their priorities set straight.

[wicked swallow]

It's a video game TV show. In the video game they'd want to do that exact thing, kill each other.

That's how I took it.

And also, even in the TV show, we know the Legion is pretty set in their ways. No questions asked.

[lethal nacelle]

What… what is this device?
Early episode 2
Pump - tube- toy rocket…

[urban spade]

A homemade makeshift air pump compressor

[urban spade]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-new-vegas-degenerates-degenerates-like-you-belong-on-a-cross-degenerate-gif-21451302

[lethal nacelle]

Am I imagining things?...

[urban spade]

🤣

[lethal nacelle]

the device could be for extracting it....

[urban spade]

I mean its attached to a rocket so lol

[wicked swallow]

Explain it better than that :p

[urban spade]

But anything can happen in fallput

I swear in the trailer we see home alone kid as the new ceasar

[distant parcel]

they grow up so fast

[wicked swallow]

We've already seen him. I havent seen spoiler trailers though. I figured we were done with the Legion this season, like BoS.

I think we're just going to get a Chet/Vault 32, and Vault 33 semi-resolution/build up, maybe some more FEV build up... the rest will be rescuing Lucy.

The trailer before the show aired eludes to Max, Ghoul and maybe Freeside rescuing Lucy.

[lethal nacelle]

fallout is so weird, I love it

[urban spade]

In the epiaode 7 trailer

Think we will have a little bit more legion but not alot

Just the new ceasar crowning

[novel leaf]

Maximus happy moments

Nah that's just my cousin Vinny

[hazy stag]

@tranquil orbit while the show is R rated, discord has guidelines when it comes to gore.

I've removed your post

[novel leaf]

Is that new

I'm pretty sure it's okay since it's fictional

Real life gore now that's bad

[tranquil orbit]

my bad hows this?

[hazy stag]

thats fine

[urban spade]

Egg

[hazy stag]

thank you for participating in the conversation

[strange trail]

I remember when everyone thought that was todd howard lmao

[dapper berry]

Which little shit?

[distant parcel]

wait really?? 😭

dude looks more like Matthew McConaughey

[dapper berry]

The deathclaws on the strip are the intelligent claws, they justcact feral to keep the riff raff out. That's my fun theory.

[distant parcel]

all Deathclaws are pretty smart tho, aren't they?

[dapper berry]

Same way I did. Creepin lik a mfer

[distant parcel]

we don't know for sure IF he had to go through there to get to wherever that underground building is - obviously in Vegas

or near it

[dapper berry]

The Enclave is like Cerberus in ME3. Youre like "this is horseshit, where do you still possibly have dudes left to throw at me?"

[distant parcel]

they're keeping the location of it locked up tighter than epstien's island so 😭

well, Epstein got caught thankfully so maybe not that secure

[dapper berry]

The ones in FO2 that took over Vault 13 could talk and read.

[distant parcel]

someone here mentioned that was more of an isolated case - but that's all i remember so i 100% could be very wrong

[urban spade]

What if that was the same deathclaw from the past

Bro lived for 200 years just to find coop

[distant parcel]

actually i don't know how long Deathclaws live for

[dapper berry]

Either the deathclaw or the person doesnt live long enough to find out

[urban spade]

Online it says 75-100 but due to the radiation and fev it could be centuries

[distant parcel]

fuck that 😭

[dapper berry]

Most fun I had was having multiple high level deathclaws in my starlight drive in. Raiders came in... to become puree

[urban spade]

I hope we get to see the fatman at somepoint

[dapper berry]

I think it was the FEV that the Enclave used on the Deathclaws to make them smart.

The enclave didnt realize for a bit how smart.

[abstract spoke]

I saw that and laughed I was like "oh shit, social awkwardness, I see, guy can predict shit, but can't read a room"

[tranquil orbit]

its funny cause they barely look alike

and then theres fans that think lucy and the ghoul are a couple lmao

[hazy stag]

it had me laughing so hard

[floral yew]

Walk with me

[distant parcel]

can't 👩‍🦽‍➡️

i can roll with you tho

crawl even

[floral yew]

76ers were future generations of Enclave

[distant parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-madebynami-cat-think-car-think-cat-silly-gif-10256431613308407309

idk about that one chief

actually no

i see it

[lethal nacelle]

PLEASE

[outer trench]

Hank is the courier

[strange trail]

Bro did the quests for the Omertas

Probably did Wang dang atomic tango too

[lethal nacelle]

Hes the yoyo master tooo

[lapis knot]

its just a gold plated pipboy

[strange trail]

🤫

[outer trench]

That's what the pimpboy is

[lapis knot]

it isnt tho

the pimpboy is gold plated with silver trims and a shit tonne of diamonds inlaid. hanks is just gold plated.

its no doubt a reference to the pimpboy, but it isnt the pimpboy

[violet barn]

I really think one of the worst things about the show is that by refusing to pick a solid ending, they made Fallout New Vegas and the player’s actions irrelevant

It means that hardly any canon characters can show up because their fates would suggest certain endings

It means that Courier Six and Hoover Dam can’t be shown because the presence of either one would suggest a specific ending

[small canopy]

This failure to make Wild Card the canon ending has done irreparable damage to the show AND MY HEART 🥀

There’s still time to show Courier 6 in full riot gear sitting in House’s chair with Yes Man on the screen behind him, though. I live in hope.

[violet barn]

None of the other Fallout games have been open-ended btw

[small canopy]

“Hey what the hell are you guys doing to my Deathclaw farm down there? I need those eggs man they’re delicious”

[violet barn]

Every sequel canonizes what happened by building on it

Fallout 2 made the NCR ending canon from Fallout 1

[wary dawn]

This could be argued for canonizing an ending too
Leaving it partially/mostly ambiguous isn't really practical if they want to show us house in any case

[violet barn]

I think the solution that they should’ve went with is to have a specific outcome happen that’s been modified from the games

[wary dawn]

If they do visit the lucky 38, we will pretty much end up with a clear canon ending

They don't really need to tell us what happens outright

[outer trench]

They'd never show up regardless because they aren't important to the plot

[wary dawn]

Courier 6 coming back to Vegas and discovering the gigantic vault tec facility underneath their house

[snow lark]

aw hellno

[snow lark]

we know they will visit Lucky 38

[outer trench]

They'd never do this and riot gear isent there cannon armor

[snow lark]

||and mr house is on the tv||

[wary dawn]

Given the trailer it's probable but until we see that scene we don't exactly know where it'll lead

[snow lark]

my theory is that they kill the deathclaw, give cold fusion to lucky 38, and mr house gets online

[tidal kraken]

Not necessarily true. Just means the Courier didn't kill House. I don't believe Bethesda is going to canonize an ending but make their own.
House alive =/= House ending

Just means he wasn't killed by the Courier. Unless they bring in the dam or show its fate, or explicitly show more canon related stuff to House's ending it's not canonizing the ending Just certain stuff choices that we could potentially make. It's evident they're picking and choosing what best fits the narrative that they can work with.

[tidal kraken]

It's probably gonna be rhe case Bethesda crafts their own ending over picking one. Crafting their own ending offers them the most creative freedom without being bogged down to the game itself in it's choices. Also the previous Fallout games were super linear compared to FNV, people forget this.

[wary dawn]

Well the courier kills him in 3 of the 4 endings so it'd narrow it down to either house or a new ending

[tidal kraken]

I agree, however a new ending crafted by them offers the most freedom and the ability to shift stuff in their favor for writing purposes for both the show and the next mainline game which is most likely going to be the West. People tend to forget FNV has the most endings, overall with the most choices. They're going to canonize a bit of it, but ultimately making their own ending which makes the most sense.

[snow lark]

wait WHAT? this actor or whoever he is, posted this in the NCR cosplay facebook group that i am in?

@high shuttle what can this mean for NCR

[high shuttle]

Absolute peak material

We can only wait for redemption

[digital nacelle]

That kinda feels cheap as shit, though; what's the point of even playing NV if it's just decided 'eeeyup, players can't even functionally achieve the ending we're concocting outside of killing House'?

[snow lark]

he joined the group in june.. weird, i checked the profile and it seems to legit be that actor

[tidal kraken]

The same reason you played other FO games and the other endings weren't chosen. Again, this has happened before. It only feels badly because FNV has slightly more options and people have had the past 15 years to headcanon FNV stuff, but the method for picking an ending hasn't necessarily changed. Like realistically the most likely ending in FO4 is BoS but it invalidates all Institute, Railroad, Pure MM, and Raider playthroughs. It's the exact same.

Even then, if we're being faithful, the Courier going beyond revenge isn't even in their characters it's a personality forced upon them by choices the players make. Canonically, the Courier is just a mailman. That's what they were. So Bethesda sticking to that, and doing an extra job or two is fine. The only probably I see, to counter my own argument here - Idk how stuff like the Khan's becoming an Empire, or going to the Fort necessarily play out if it's just a Mailman doing their job. I have no clue.

[wary dawn]

WHAT

[tidal kraken]

Boutta get crazy lol

[snow lark]

i replied asking if he plays ncr character

[snow lark]

here you see he replied with "long live ncr" on a recent post in that group.. hm

[tidal kraken]

So we'll see him in a few days.

[snow lark]

i wonder who he will play..

lol

[tidal kraken]

Probably an officer or higher up, could be a politician too, we'll see lol

[silk cape]

What would the enclave do with cold fusion

Also how canon are the bud askins shorts

[tidal kraken]

So far we see Cold Fusion power facilities, it's probably in the same vein. Maybe the Enclave has large facilities with weaponry or utilities like Area 51? Area 51 either creates Fusion Cores or infinitely recharges them. Either way, it's still an infinite supply pretty much. And it would be useful to the Enclave.

[silk cape]

So its not likely they would be doing something comically evil with it

[wary dawn]

Everything the enclave does day to day is implicitly comically evil so sort of

[tidal kraken]

It's more like cold fusion would probably give them access to do something comically evil.

Like power a facility that can infinitely create FEV or some silly shit

Or maybe they use it to power a massive air craft carrier, who knows.

[summer bronze]

Either brotherhood or minutemen

Gotta be

[tidal kraken]

Brotherhood ending would be canon, or Brotherhood MM alliance. Every other ending has you destroy the Brotherhood of Steel and the Prydwen.

[distant jay]

I can see Brotherhood-Minutemen Alliance being the true ending... or the hard-to-get ending where you can keep all three "good guy" factions alive and still get all their radiant quests.

Realistically though, Brotherhood ending is canon. Bethesda put too much effort into getting Liberty Prime walking again for that not to be the case.

But the Minutemen probably do still exist; they were a major part of the marketing material for FO4.

[violet barn]

I’m gonna just pretend that this guy is actually Lanius for my Vault

He has the helmet so it’s very easy to do this

I wonder what the next Fallout shelter season is actually gonna be

[silk cape]

The institute lacks imagination

[ancient barn]

Again CIT

[shut kite]

It'd be weirder at this point if Maximus didn't meet the NCR, that and they've mentioned Shady Sands and that Maximus lived there semi-frequently

[snow lark]

well inside the vault he takes the helmet off

[visual locust]

It's Kevinus

[snow lark]

whatever that means @high shuttle
he probably can't say..

[high shuttle]

The Great Recovery is approaching...

[red sun]

It's killed more Marines per capita than the entire war on terror

[violet barn]

WHAT

Ohhhhhhh wait

I can work with this. I can work with this.

I CAN WORK WITH THIS.

[snow lark]

i would not say that is canon, he has the mask to hide disfigurement in lore

[violet barn]

Yeah but it’s the only real way to make him

[snow lark]

you can change hair

[violet barn]

Yeah I can use the customization to do it

Quick question: Is the stuff from this pass exclusive?

I’m assuming it is

[snow lark]

apparently not every weapon is, but the dwellers might be

[violet barn]

Not all of the weapons but the dwellers, the ncr power armor, the new vegas exterior theme and the lucky 38 penthouse theme absolutely are

[slate walrus]

supposed to be the lacerta legate right

[high shuttle]

Idk man
Posting your role as Lanius in an NCR cosplay group?

[snow lark]

no that was about fallout shelter

[violet barn]

Yeah

[high shuttle]

Ah
My mistake then lol

[snow lark]

did you see the f76 NCR cosmetic leak?

[high shuttle]

I don't play 76 so I can't get it but yeah
Looks sick
The fact that they seem to be using early M16-platform pouches as well really makes better, too
Makes more sense than whatever type of general purpose pouch-thing they had

[snow lark]

that ncr cosplay group i am in is not happy, they never are

[hasty ether]

How it feels when 70% of the fanbase tries to dog on your faction:

[high shuttle]

It dosen't look half bad why
If they used the rags Moldaver's bunch had and titled them as the NCR's fatigues then I would get why but this looks not that bad honestly
I like some of the directions they took for it
Although it is definitely gonna be used to suck money off of people so yeah, that part does suck

[snow lark]

they see 76 and go

[wicked nimbus]

Xenos filth

Love my tyranids

[red sun]

The game doesn't support the sort of facial deformities that Lanius has, so that's probably his healthy face before getting mutilated.

[silk cape]

What would you say to enclave members having infiltrated the ncr

[red sun]

Hi how are you

[silk cape]

Best answer

[tidal kraken]

FNV fans pmo, it literally looks fine. It's just a mix of both Dam outfits, minus the bandolier.

[violet barn]

Wait this is what is being complained about???

[tidal kraken]

yes

[violet barn]

There’s literally like

Two or three small changes at the most

[tidal kraken]

the pants probably won't be as puffy, the bandolier is missing and i think that's it. lol

[violet barn]

Yo this Fallout shelter season shit is EASY

i’ve already gotten to Lacerta and the season just started

here he is in my Vault getting the Lanius cut

[silk cape]

Reg is gonna get his head kicked in by betty

[digital nacelle]

Only four officers to handle that club felt a bit light. Better to go hardline and billy club or shoot all of those useless resource hogs.

[silk cape]

Vault 101 threw more at an innocent 19 year old

[vapid helm]

FO3 Maxson

[urban spade]

Uranium fever

[vapid helm]

has done and got me down

[urban spade]

Bring in free dog

[vapid helm]

fr-

who??

you mean Three Dog??

[urban spade]

Phree dawg

[distant jay]

Don't do that, Mr. Actor I've Never Heard Of. Don't give me hope.

[urban spade]

NCR stronghold episode 8

[snow lark]

he reacted to my reply asking if he's a ncr character with an emoji

[urban spade]

I wonder where the ncr are holding out

They confirmed this is a sequel to the game officially right?

[frosty basin]

I really feel like the things that guy has put in his posts/comments are NOT allowed under his NDAs and things lol

[snow lark]

yes I don't think he can say these things

he replied saying Long Live New California Republic in another post

[frosty basin]

whoever his rep is who got him that job is gonna SMACK him when they see those posts lol

I'd laugh if he's in it for like, 1.5 seconds

However, his Actor's Access does list it specifically as a 'Co-Star' role, not guest star or extra, which would indicate a slightly more involved role

[snow lark]

well the group isn't public

as in the admins have to accept the join request

[frosty basin]

lmao this guy seems to be a pastor irl, maybe he'll just get to be a uh religious figure in the show instead of NCR

[snow lark]

I think the actor might like Fallout, he joined the ncr group in summer 2025, filming stopped in May right?

[snow lark]

actor and a pastor, interesting

[vapid helm]

there are weirder career combos

[outer trench]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-new-vegas-joshua-graham-gif-25989158

[frosty basin]

these posts are killing me lmoa

[vapid helm]

memes

banned

[frosty basin]

it's like, he just posts fallout memes and AI Jesus posts

[snow lark]

i guess he likes fallout and jesus

[outer trench]

Can't expect god to do all the work

[frosty basin]

so he would have been cast back in march or so given this post too..."new favorite show winky face "lol

alright BIG spoilers ahead, boutta see some socks

[vapid helm]

crazy spoiler

you're gonna get banned for that

[violet barn]

Ohhhh i get it

[frosty basin]

oh actually, this is probs him

[violet barn]

They’re gonna go to an NCR base and get the NCR power armor

[frosty basin]

bro's just going to be in the Freeside strip during that scene when Maximus and Ghoul and Thad go there

[vapid helm]

probably Camp MacCarren sicne theyre going to vegas

[violet barn]

||some leaks showed the interior of Camp Mccarran with the slot machines||

[frosty basin]

lol do we think this is him

[snow lark]

loool

[outer trench]

Does mr house regularly watch pepole pee?

[vapid helm]

only cooper

[frosty basin]

only people who deserve it

[violet barn]

How many cameras do you think are in the Lucky 38 Presidental

[vapid helm]

40

[outer trench]

Has a camera in the bathroom

[vapid helm]

per room (the chat cooldown RUINS comedic timing man)

[violet barn]

He likely does

[snow lark]

#ncr #freeside..

yeah he's probably a minor character, might not even have lines

[frosty basin]

Honestly my eyes fully skimmed NCR and only saw the #freeside but I guess we'll know in 3 days for sure

He did post another one, I really just think he's on Freeside

Making my bets now - all in on 'extra in Freeside'. Nothing to do with NCR, he just became an NCR fanboy

[high shuttle]

Aw come on

[frosty basin]

I do think NCR will be showing up again...but I don't think Derek is one of them. Or maybe he'll like, have a line and drop that NCR has a new capital or whatever when he sees Maximus with his new PA

[snow lark]

darn it, I thought i was onto something

[shut kite]

I'm guessing he's a minor speaking role, probably not even a named character. Weird people can end up in those kinds of roles since I imagine they aren't vetted too much

[high shuttle]

Brother you had me into it too
We will see how this goes, however

[shut kite]

I think i saw somewhere that the Freeside set was done at Melody Ranch, could be he saw some NCR troopers doing some scenes.

[frosty basin]

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

Honestly the ‘professional extra’ sort of people can get very weird lol

But yeah, at most I’m thinking maybe a line or two as a shopkeeper or something akin to that.

[shut kite]

Funnily enough I saw another weird dude who claims to have been an extra on the show, some dude who posts weird AI generated political content on twitter claims he was an NCR trooper extra on the Freeside set at Melody Ranch.

[frosty basin]

Can you link to that? I enjoy wasting my time looking at things like that lol

[shut kite]

I'll try and find it, I found him when that close up leak of the NCR trooper costume was posted, the one that had their face hidden with Bennys

[frosty basin]

Hmm I’m not sure I ever saw that one

[shut kite]

https://x.com/FalloutFanArt/status/1968115352606478362 This one, you can find the guy I was talking about in the replys

[lethal nacelle]

So like, we got the enclave who possibly activated those nukes. What about the guy that hank been working with. What if it's the institute

They were talking about the cold fusion too

[shut kite]

He might actually be the source of this leak because you can find a different version he posted before FalloutFanArt (I wouldn't recommend going through the x account since it's 99% weird political AI brainrot)

[wicked nimbus]

Would explain how they get all their power what are the institutes origins too any ties to the enclave we know of?

[shut kite]

He also made a similar comment about being an NCR trooper on Melody Ranch on TunnelSnakesFool's Tiktok, so either he's very committed to the bit or being genuine

[shut kite]

I think they just had access to Bethesda's assets to recreate and choose one that looked right for the scene

[lethal nacelle]

We know from the Season 1 finale that Vault-Tec, the Enclave, and other major corporations (like Big MT and Rob-Co) were all "in the room" when the end of the world was being planned.

If Hank has a connection to the Institute, it would explain how he has access to high level data and advanced tech. The Cold Fusion technology seen in the show is the holy grail of power. In Fallout 4, the Institute’s entire plot revolves around building a nuclear reactor to provide enough power to run their facility and teleporter forever. The show suggests that Vault-Tec/Enclave wanted to suppress Cold Fusion to maintain a monopoly on "the end of the world."

[shut kite]

We know the Institutes origins, they were created post-war when the staff and students of the CIT took refuge underground.

[lethal nacelle]

Yeah, Enclave and Institute are completely opposite

Both are extremely elitist and view themselves as the only real humans left. If they did collaborate, it would likely be a marriage of convenience to share resources like power and research.

[lethal nacelle]

Before the Great War, CIT likely had government contracts. Since the Enclave is the remnant of the U.S. government, it makes sense they would use the same high end hardware suppliers as the country's top tech universities tho

[shut kite]

The Institute think Cold Fusion is a pipe dream, proposals to research it were rejected

"Rejected - Li.M Notes: Evidence suggests this is, and always will be, a pipe dream "

[lethal nacelle]

If the Institute rejected cold fusion because they thought it was impossible, but Vault-Tec (Hank's bosses) suppressed it because they knew it worked and wanted to control the world's energy supply, that puts them at odds

If the Institute finds out the Enclave or Vault-Tec actually figured out cold fusion, they’re gonna be tight. It turns their 200 years of "advanced" research into a joke

[shut kite]

Hank has been unfrozen in a Vault for some 28 years, he's only left twice and he wasn't going to trek to Massachusetts to get in contact with the Institute. All of Hanks allegiances belong to the pre-war organizations like Vault-Tec and possibly House or the Enclave. The Institute was created post-war

[lethal nacelle]

Only thing that can be found on dead gen 3 synths is a component to be fair and they use one component to make people docile in the series. Isn’t unrealistic to assume the institute developed cloning and used the component from enclave archives to combine the two

[shut kite]

Sometimes a re-used asset is just a re-used asset.

There is legitimately no reason the Institute would be involved in the plot as it has happened

[lethal nacelle]

Maybe maybe not

[shut kite]

They're destroyed in 3/4 endings too, and as it stands the Minutemen or the Brotherhood ending are the canon ones

[lethal nacelle]

even if it is just a reused asset, it effectively communicates that the Enclave and the Institute occupy the same tier of technology, miles above the rusty tubes and wires tech of the Brotherhood or the NCR.

[wary dawn]

Was that not- the enclave has force fields and exclusive power armor models

[lethal nacelle]

Fair point

[wary dawn]

The institute can teleport and make people

[lethal nacelle]

Maybe they just want to show that the Enclave and Vault-Tec are just as advanced as the Institute, not necessarily that they are the same group

[wary dawn]

They don't have the same tech but safe to say nobody else comes close

[lethal nacelle]

It will all be revealed in 2 weeks...

[frosty basin]

I really don’t think they’re trying to show any of that at all. I think they’re just trying to ground it in the same world using similar design language

[shut kite]

Here's the comment I found on TunnelSnakesFool's TikTok video about the Freeside set from the same guy about the scenes he (supposedly) filmed spoiler for describing what scenes he filmed: ||"Not sure, all we did was shoot some montage scenes marching through Freeside, while the Legionaries were also filmed doing marching montages. So I’m guessing they’re marching toward each other?"||

||"guess so. I never played New Vegas, but the NCR and Legion were both there those days. Filming separately from each other, so we never were in the same scene."||

I'm taking with a grain of salt since from what I've seen the only set leaks involving NCR troopers in large numbers were filmed in downtown LA, not Melody Ranch which is where the Freeside set was,

[frosty basin]

Which date was the vid on tiktok those were from? I’m feeling dumb and couldn’t get anywhere from the Twitter post you gave either lol

[snow lark]

the leaked Legion scene is filmed 3 minutes walk distance from leaked NCR in street scene, this is why the guy said "both were there, but filmed separate"

[shut kite]

Issue is he said it was at Melody Ranch, not downtown LA

[snow lark]

was that guy NCR?

[shut kite]

I don't think we've gotten any leaks from that set though

Yeah, claimed to be an NCR trooper extra on the melody ranch Freeside set

[frosty basin]

Hmm I wonder if maybe Melody ranch AND the street scene both ended up being used as parts of Freeside. That’s not terribly unreasonable

[snow lark]

that is fascinating.

leaked street for reference

[frosty basin]

Or if they were having a general marching montage - which would generally track with what we know - maybe they did just shoot montage stuff in a few different places, some in freeside, some in general LA street, and maybe a few others.

[snow lark]

lol

[shut kite]

I'm guessing they used a larger number of untrained extras for the marching scenes but switched to a smaller number of trained extras for the actual action scenes

Would explain how he only saw marching from both factions

Could also be a flashback

[snow lark]

so an actor was marching in freeside in NCR uniform

[still wyvern]

Yeah, Tunnelers aren't showing up. They're not all that memorable.

[snow lark]

yeah but we have not really had many flashbacks IN Mojave area, we only have prewar and Shady flashbacks so far

[frosty basin]

Yeah, I would very much imagine that to be the case

Shite maybe this is what actually happens lol

[shut kite]

I feel Maximus has to at least meet the NCR in the Mojave before he dons their power armor.

[still wyvern]

I think we'll see a reunion for Lucy, Cooper and Maximus since Walton Goggins made sure to tease one in post-episode 5 interview content.

She's clearly not siding with him. She obviously no longer trusts him in anything he says after this whole stunt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkpH7SKu1jg

[shut kite]

I feel Lucy is probably in more of a crisis of identity now, she can no longer identify with Hank or her previous worldview. Especially considering how much like Vault 33 Dwellers the brainwashed people are

[snow lark]

i'm actually somewhat upset that the strip set, has Michael Angelo neon sign store, but it looks prewar

wait if Sarah is Micheals Sister, why do they not share same last name?

[shut kite]

Michael Angelo is his artist name

His actual name is Sheldon Weintraub

[snow lark]

ohhh yea

well the strip set does have micheal angelos neon store

but it looks, idk. Prewar?

[shut kite]

I think it makes sense if the factions converge on the Strip. Hanks been kidnapping them, Ghoul pissed off the Legion/Khans, Maximus is possibly allying with the NCR. The Brotherhood will be coming for cold fusion,

[tidal kraken]

|| Also to put the bed of the Marcus stuff to rest, Magnus found the article I saw the other day where Ron Pearlman says it's a new character. Not an established one. ||

[robust veldt]

No.

[frosty basin]

no what 😭

[robust veldt]

Show isnt canon

[tidal kraken]

Just ignore him, all he does is shitpost. Lmao

[robust veldt]

Show decanonizes fo1 and in that case fo2 meaning nothing is canon.

[robust veldt]

Anyone that disagrees with me is shitposting.//

[frosty basin]

oh god, there's another one?

[robust veldt]

What a good arguement i could clap.

[tidal kraken]

Unfortunately, yep.

[robust veldt]

👏

[tidal kraken]

Can check his own messages in the server. It's all super unserious.

[frosty basin]

your argument was "No" so like...

[robust veldt]

Said that to start convo.

[robust veldt]

"Super unserious" ei anyone that disagrees with you

[outer trench]

You're agruement is based on lies

[frosty basin]

But yes, I do think this indicates that Pearlman will probably be more involved moving forward with that character. YOur ideas about the faction that will probably tie to in the future seem pretty solid to me

[robust veldt]

When?

Show decanonizes fo1 because it moves shady sands and without the boneyard the master isnt real

Not to mention all the BLATANT THINGS ei mojave outpost are removed

[tidal kraken]

A lot of the idea I mentioned earlier does hinge on the fact of Ghoul's being playable again in an official capacity in the next mainline game. So I could be entirely wrong. Lmfao

[robust veldt]

I dont mind the show but its in a different timeline.

Fallout is a mess and this makes semi-sense

[shut kite]

The Master is canonically stopped within a few weeks of the Vault Dweller leaving Vault 13, If the Followers of the Apocalypse survive Fallout 1 living a few miles east of the Cathedral then Shady Sands can survive being in the Boneyard as well

[outer trench]

Its not

[frosty basin]

Even if ghouls aren't playable I don't think that eliminates them building to this faction in S3+ of the show

[robust veldt]

It is. They remove much of the original lore.

[outer trench]

Its fully cannon

[robust veldt]

Fallout has literally always been more then one timeline its confirmed in fo2

[tidal kraken]

Yeah, very true. I was thinking like LONG, long game. Lol

[robust veldt]

theres more then one fallout timeline.

[shut kite]

Every goddamn Fallout game has in some way contradicted what came before, its what happens when you have a franchise last 20+ years

[snow lark]

oh lord another one

[frosty basin]

why don't you go argue this somewhere that's not the ep. 6 discussion because I've seen 0 tie ins to ep 6

[tidal kraken]

^ Agreed.

Anyway - back to the episode. Yeah I was thinking long, long term about the factions presence. They definitely are gonna exist in a larger capacity in S3 or S4(if it happens).

[robust veldt]

Literally abt the fallout show btw

[ivory ridge]

@robust veldt While it is fantastic you care so deeply about specific lore I need you to talk specifically about episode 6.

[robust veldt]

Stop firebombing everything i say.

[ivory ridge]

Anyone else love how Coop was saved ?

[tidal kraken]

Me. I was almost sold on it being Goris when I heard the noises, but I was still pleasantly surprised.

[ivory ridge]

Watching the super mutant just break the bar and pull him off was good storytelling and a bit of solid comedy

[frosty basin]

I thought the sound design in that whole scene was great, too. Very nice to hear all the ghoul sounds throughout that scene

[ivory ridge]

No one cared to help and and the one that did was less than delicate about it

[tidal kraken]

My only worry is that if the super mutant fights at some point, it'll be at least a better fight than the Securitron one in the Sunset Factory. Lol

[snow lark]

i thought it was really weird that it was using ingame ghoul noises

[ivory ridge]

I actually loved that fight with the securitron

[urban spade]

I like how he knocked him out

[tidal kraken]

I kind of liked that touch tbh

[frosty basin]

I liked it, I thought it was good cohesion to the games. Also just sort of what all films/shows have done for all of history (ala wilhelm scream)

[tidal kraken]

Yeah he didn't kill him, which speaks volumes to him still considering him kin.

[ivory ridge]

Those were sounds from the game?

[urban spade]

Even though ghoul was gonna try kill him lol

[frosty basin]

I don't think every sound was, but a few were def ripped from the games

[ivory ridge]

I'm looking forward to learning what Lucy does. I feel like she'll back down and try to see how things go

Hank is good at manipulating her

[tidal kraken]

yeah they were, like direct rips lol

[ivory ridge]

he purposely sets up a sencario with those two to fight each other

[tidal kraken]

like one or two was new, but the rest definitely were in-game

[ivory ridge]

that says a lot about the sound team from the game devs for it being so good

[urban spade]

I wonder if ghoul and lucy will still be partners

[frosty basin]

I am curious about this. How practical things are is generally great, but it does make it a bit hard when it comes to flexibility with action. I think the super mutants final designs will end up being probably all CGI but working off of some practical elements, which will put them in a similar space of 'how do we move this hulking thing in a realistic and cool way without beinh held back'

[snow lark]

fisto lines were also directly ripped from fnv

[frosty basin]

What're we thinking is in Hank's box? Tbh I don't remember if that was ep. 5 or 6, but that should be opening up soon. FEV, presumably?

[tidal kraken]

maybe a code, or something to start phase 2 in the vaults?

[urban spade]

The one attaches to his wrist?

[tidal kraken]

agreed, i don't think people realize how DEEP the showruners and team has gone in and directly added stuff, or mimicked from the games. It's super cool. Even the super mutant's breathing/movements, are almost 1:1 to how mutants move around in-game.

[frosty basin]

his locked box from back in the vault, that Betty / Steph were talking about

[tidal kraken]

especially the breathing, too, that was the first thing that caught me off guard was how close it was to the in-game file of the mutants breathing.

[urban spade]

I donr ger why fev wouod be such a big deal atp

Theres mutants and deathclaws everywhere

[tidal kraken]

To them it is, to them the plans are still in motion

[frosty basin]

That's what the overarching stuff in the Vault plots is leading towards, if it's FEV that also aligns with what Norm is discovering about the future of his vault along with us

[tidal kraken]

Steph kind of implies that even if the Heads are gone, she's still gonna persue the experiment.

[ivory ridge]

I mean, season one had an actor walking and looking like one of the losers from Fo1 which is an insanely deep cut

[tidal kraken]

Yeah, i genuinely wonder if Bethesda did give them full access to things, even cut content. Cause holy hell, lol

[ivory ridge]

I think they did if they asked

I'm really impressed with how well they setup Freeside

it looked properly populated and indifferent to violence

[urban spade]

Im really happy that theres so much game lore acurate easter eggs

[ivory ridge]

I do wonder what Coop will do now that he's free and where was he left?

[urban spade]

My favourite game adaptation on tv so far

[ivory ridge]

same, it is obvious they care a great deal

and holy biscuits the sets, the costumes, the lighting, etc. all practically perfect

[urban spade]

I liked we got to see that crazy lady and her sister from season 1 again

[frosty basin]

I wonder if we'll ever get to see any cut scenes since this ep seems to have had one? I don't think they ever did for S1

[ivory ridge]

perhaps we'll get those one day

[urban spade]

Was mr house in one of the credit scenes?

[ivory ridge]

I wonder if we'll find out House's fate in the next couple episodes?

[urban spade]

I imagine he is still alive

[ivory ridge]

is he dead in 2296 or not?

if he's a robot/virtual only presence then it doesn't tell us an ending

if he is alive in the pod it will

[urban spade]

I wonder what he wants/wanted the cold fusion for

[ivory ridge]

it would secure him a lot

[frosty basin]

.....I don't think that's her sister......?

[ivory ridge]

they're a couple

as far as I can tell

They are two of my favourite side characters

[frosty basin]

Yeah, I definitely thought they were played as an old lesbian couple. So uh hopefully not her sister lmao

[urban spade]

Oh lool

[ivory ridge]

their banter is top notch

[frosty basin]

But yes, great addition to S1 and them continuing to S2 is great lol

[ivory ridge]

It is fantastic world building to do. Showing folks have reverence for the old world and will just squat in an empty building

[frosty basin]

for anyone who didn't see it - GoDaddy did a silly lil collab with Fallout and built a site around Ma June's shop from S1

[ivory ridge]

great contrast between the Dwellers of the past and the people of the present

[frosty basin]

https://majunessundries.com/

[ivory ridge]

oh that's neat

That line from, what was his name, the Inbred Club lead? Was probably the hardest hitting line in the series to me

[frosty basin]

which one?

the last line / performance that really stuck with me was an earlier ep with Maximus' line about "I don't choose to do the things I have to do, they just keep happening." I thought that was such a great line and such great performance and character work there

[ivory ridge]

that one was incredible also

the one about them only thinking about themselves because that's what their ancestors did

[digital birch]

The best acting I've seen out of this entire show is House's lash out on Cooper

[arctic glen]

I want Ma June to show up in FO5.

[untold arrow]

I kind of have a theory on what the NCR was in season 1 and why they looked like what ever this is

It was a civilian militia

[ancient barn]

Freeside has always been indifferent to violence

[tranquil orbit]

modern army helmets in fallout is crazy

[coarse ivy]

They were the NCR that refused to evacuate the shady sands era

[wary dawn]

This is the most tactical rendition we've seen of the NCR

[coarse ivy]

No different then the p90 being in fallout 2

[untold arrow]

Well the combat helmets in almost every fallout are just different looking PAGT helmets

[arctic glen]

Also lol Ron Perlman as Shrek

[wary dawn]

2's NCR is divided between combat armor and policemen, NV has worse equipment than that overall

[coarse ivy]

NCR in new Vegas is likely using all armor they can produce themselves

[wary dawn]

Yeah in fairness the NCR in NV has had to scale back their equipment provisions for normal infantry

[coarse ivy]

For uniformity and cost cutting measures

The rangers all have badass armor