#EPISODE 6

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proud cedar
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It not being Goris is a total waste.

tidal kraken
proud cedar
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  1. Could tie to the deathclaws on the strip and Cooper's own history with deathclaws
  2. Goris' people were murdered by the Enclave
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proud cedar
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Hank suffering from alcohol withdrawal.

dawn flicker
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All I’m saying is if S2 doesn’t end with enclave returning and appearing on screen then the whole buildup was a waste

proud cedar
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They should reuse the Fallout 2 fakeout of the Enclave gunning down vault dwellers with miniguns.

vapid pumice
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It’s enclave every time yes I like the faction but they have been smeared accross the wasteland like a toddler pasta and white walls

proud cedar
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Their last appearance in a mainline game was almost 20 years ago.

dawn flicker
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It would make sense enclave to return with appearing s1 ep 1 and being mention through the whole show and BoS in civil war and NCR weaken and Caesars legion basically killing each other

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Would be a perfect time to take the advantage and return

proud cedar
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It'd be funny if the Legion remnants and NCR teamed up against them.

dawn flicker
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Funny yes but legion definitely wouldn’t

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Too much pride and self interest

digital nacelle
proud cedar
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I don't know, after Culkin becomes the new Caesar maybe they'll change direction.

The image of a ranger and centurion working together under Enclave mind control might be enough for a truce.

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Frankly I think some of those western chapters of the BoS in the show are made up of ex-Legion, the misogynistic one especially.

digital nacelle
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Heck, the NCR and Brotherhood collab’d once before to stomp on Navarro back in the day; Enclave popping their heads up again would be as good an excuse as any to put the beef on hold.

mortal sequoia
dawn flicker
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Enclave could just pull up with new planes and guns had a new type of armor

proud cedar
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The Enclave lost against lesser-armed groups twice already.

dawn flicker
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Enclave only ever lost to the player

proud cedar
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As fractured as the BoS are, they're more or less as equipped.

dawn flicker
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The whole story could just change from them saying nah the player is forced to side with enclave and enclave wins

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That’s how fo3 was and 2

proud cedar
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The Enclave would've died out if the player hadn't stopped them, because their plan in 2 and 3 would've also killed them.

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If anything the player ensures they survive.

digital nacelle
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Still, who else could be brought in on the ‘Jump the Enclave’ coalition other than the NCR, Brotherhood, and maybe the Legion if the new leadership have two brain cells and enough pragmatism?

dawn flicker
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Then Preston just shows up

proud cedar
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The Church of the Lost and the Reavers vs. the Enclave.

midnight lily
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Ron isnt reacting well to the Mojave air

snow lark
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mr house??

topaz marsh
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so who is the actor of the SM

proud cedar
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Jimmy Smits.

midnight lily
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Ron Perlman

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The narrator guy who says something about war not changing much

dawn flicker
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How I think the show wil end is enclave returns destroys of what remains of the BOS in the west and the legion and comes to some sort of agreement with NCR since NCR is the closest thing they have to the original America and fallout 5 will take place as enclave as one the main faction with 2 new ones and east BOS returning and minutemen and this time you get to choice to side with East BoS or Enclave and the east BoS will be the canon ending and our character will be a recruit in the enclaves who can desert from the enclaves to side and help the East BoS

proud cedar
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No way. The Hubologists vs. the Enclave is the plot of Fallout 5.

dawn flicker
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Who knows

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We had no teasers or hints of fallout 5 yet

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Just hints of enclave return

topaz marsh
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we know nothing of fallout 5

high shuttle
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Do you guys think Hank will get killed or something

dawn flicker
dawn flicker
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Shot into it

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But what if Hank gets revealed as enclave cause it does match with frank and Hank

topaz marsh
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end credits 47;02

proud cedar
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Hank Frorrigan.

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topaz marsh
dawn flicker
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They need to give us hanks family origin

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Cause I feel he’s gonna be related to some one and his last name isn’t his real last name

proud cedar
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Hank Swanick.

dawn flicker
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Using a fake name to be a spy in vault tec for the enclaves

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Cause Hank and Frank are too similar

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Has to be a fake name

cinder pollen
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I think show will end with Todd Howard pausing it and talking straight to the camera, saying that he hates Fallout

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and then drops TES 6 release date

royal temple
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Fallout 152 announcement

vapid pumice
bleak glen
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Weekly releases gonna be the death of me

distant jay
zinc hollow
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I hate cliff hangers 🙁 we are def gonna see a war with the Enclave though

distant jay
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I hate when the whole season is cliffhangers.

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Not feeling the weekly thing at all tbh. It is very unsatisfying.

carmine falcon
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So I was correct after all.

The Enclave did drop the bombs.

distant jay
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No. There is no confirmation of that.

grizzled wraith
tidal kraken
carmine falcon
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The writing is obviously and clearly on the wall.

distant jay
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No it is not.

carmine falcon
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Then explain why Dr. Wilzig was with Barb in the elevator.

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I'm going with my gut. The Enclave dropped the bombs.

distant jay
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We don't even know if that was him. Could be an ancestor.

snow lark
carmine falcon
distant jay
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Coop, Thad the Chad, and Max.

snow lark
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only coop and max are playable in fallout shelter :(

grizzled wraith
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Episode 6 was boring

snow lark
carmine falcon
distant jay
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Y'all say that every week. Just stop watching.

snow lark
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i loove ep5, ep 6 less

high shuttle
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Oh god no

carmine falcon
high shuttle
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They are fine lol

snow lark
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has been around yet?

distant jay
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Then who was it that has been calling the show boring since premiere??

high shuttle
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Gee I do hope he got the message

tidal kraken
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SirMingy?

tidal kraken
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He'll be here, maybe, he got silenced last week, who knows.

high shuttle
snow lark
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yeah, he who complains that the buildings are angled 10 degrees to the left or that the chair is missing 3 nails

tidal kraken
high shuttle
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With the last episode he literally had nothing to say so he had to make shit up lol

distant jay
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Ffs. My bad then bois.

snow lark
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what did he say for ep6

tidal kraken
high shuttle
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Nothing yet

snow lark
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and ep5? did he say that freeside has too many people compared to fnv?

tidal kraken
# distant jay Ffs. My bad then bois.

No like, genuinely the arguments are beyond mental. It's very superior complex, my opinion is correct because I am passionate - if you don't agree, you're all fake fans.

tidal kraken
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I tried telling him to stop, lol

snow lark
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like.. it's a tv show adaption, it shouldn't and can't really be be 1:1 everywhere, most sets are filmed outside near other buildings, not on a sound stage

high shuttle
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Gee I do hope he learnt something out of it
Most probably "the mods are Bethesda agents" but like still

distant jay
tidal kraken
high shuttle
snow lark
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the king still lives

tidal kraken
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That is the type of mental gymnastics he does.

carmine falcon
distant jay
carmine falcon
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The King always wears white.

snow lark
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eh it's because the game only has 1 kings jacket

high shuttle
distant jay
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Or succeeded him cos original went feral.

snow lark
carmine falcon
tidal kraken
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imagine if House managed to get himself a synth body.

topaz marsh
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Also fallout shelter isnt canon

high shuttle
tidal kraken
topaz marsh
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Well tlaking about how king is alive or major events i feel like people are taking the game seriously

snow lark
high shuttle
tidal kraken
snow lark
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this isn't canon??

high shuttle
snow lark
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this must be canon

tidal kraken
carmine falcon
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Wasteland Golden Rule:

"Thou shall get sidetracked by bullshit every god damn time."

snow lark
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in Fallout Shelter Canon, the king is alive, there are talking ghouls, scorpions, radroaches, molerats deathclaws and mr house has a human body

high shuttle
high shuttle
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At least a little bit

high shuttle
# distant jay Why

I mean I can see how it could happen right?
At the end of the day House literally is in a cryopod of his own in NV
But like, if the big reveal of the whole season isn't that House is still in his computer form but rather that he's just actually hidden somewhere in another cryopod or something
It would really feel weird?
Maybe cheap isn't the word I'm looking for

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Maybe I won't be actually just breaking-TV mad (that was something that happened lol) but I will feel kinda weird

distant jay
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Ah, fair. I concur.

carmine falcon
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Me too.

wise heart
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I liked how attached max was to the armor in season 1 but now in season 2 they suddenly have trackers and they leave it behind. What do you think guys?

high shuttle
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If they can send Thaddeus as a squire replacement within a minute's notice

wise heart
tidal kraken
wise heart
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I also wonder what is going to remain of the BoS

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Which chapter will survive after that fight

high shuttle
tidal kraken
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Yes Maximus left, but i still think Quintus won't forgive him and might come after him.

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A maniac, revenged addled Quintus joins the Enclave would be funny.

wise heart
tidal kraken
high shuttle
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You reckon Coop, Max and Thaddeus will decide where to get the cold fusion to?
Whether that's Vegas or NCR or wherever?

tidal kraken
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Shady Sands is listed as it's former Capital, the NCR has another Capital City.

quasi jackal
high shuttle
wise heart
quasi jackal
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I bet he brings it to House

wise heart
quasi jackal
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Cooper probably thinks he did actually cause the end of the world by stealing it from House in the first place

high shuttle
wise heart
wise heart
quasi jackal
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I think that's where it's heading, imo it keeps showing House in a better light compared to the first episode of the season, it seems like they're setting up house as like an antihero

tidal kraken
high shuttle
topaz marsh
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How i feel reading this chat

tidal kraken
frosty basin
high shuttle
tidal kraken
wise heart
tidal kraken
kind marten
high shuttle
tidal kraken
topaz marsh
high shuttle
kind marten
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esp from large accounts

wise heart
tidal kraken
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In the show he means COMPLETELY digital, shedding his entirely organic body.

kind marten
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yea he means like a synth type thing

wise heart
kind marten
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not be stuck in one room lol

tidal kraken
topaz marsh
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I dont attack big accounts and i mean big accounts with voice that do spread weird theorys should watch there words if they are wrong they would look bad to watchers and they start taking there accounts with a grain of salt. But hey what do i know lol

high shuttle
tidal kraken
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He's simply stuck in the Lucky 38, but he'd be able to go beyond that.

wise heart
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What could he control

high shuttle
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The entirety of Vegas I assume

tidal kraken
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Anything tech related? If he's a digitize form I imagine he can be connected to robots and expand them all over.

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He's limited because of the lucky 38, and his reach only really extends via the Courier and Securitrons.

tidal kraken
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Even then he had to alternate Victor and make him a specialized unit to actually travel longer distances.

wise heart
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Wouldnt the robots get instantly get mauled by the deathclaws?

high shuttle
tidal kraken
kind marten
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sustain themselves indefinitely in a roboticized non-biological form

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is what I have

topaz marsh
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Robo brain or that one guy in point lookout the brain thing

wise heart
lapis knot
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The more this goes on the more I feel barb was somewhat forced say what she did

tidal kraken
topaz marsh
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The enclave made her say it

wise heart
chilly ginkgo
wise heart
bleak glen
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holy filler episode 💔

topaz marsh
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The enclave was the plot the whole time it has been since season 1 ep 2 when they showed the enclave

kind marten
wise heart
kind marten
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her being acual Enclave was more fun to me

wise heart
kind marten
topaz marsh
bleak glen
wise heart
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Also why are the vault dwellers so stupid? Isnt the overseer the only black person there?

chilly ginkgo
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I don't like where it's going with the enclave they should've just dropped the faction once and for all

topaz marsh
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I think the vault plot is also connected to enclave with the blonde whats her face

kind marten
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steph harper

topaz marsh
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Yeah that one

kind marten
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idk I t hink the canadian thing is something

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so random otherwise

chilly ginkgo
topaz marsh
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Well i think they showed the id to prove it was the bday and just to add flavor she is from canada to give new fans context that canada was annexed

wise heart
rancid holly
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I was so hoping that this was Goris 😭 , Alas

kind marten
tidal kraken
kind marten
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like most fans thought her being canadian was the reveal it seemed lol

tidal kraken
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A new Faction with super mutants and ghouls as kin is far more interesting.

topaz marsh
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I feel like there was a mention of annex canada somewhere

tidal kraken
wise heart
tidal kraken
tidal kraken
wise heart
wise heart
tidal kraken
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I don't think you'd have the faction name crossed out on the wall, and then throw a giant boulder at it if you liked them. Lmao

kind marten
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i wonder what the mutant with the human and arrow picture in that church was about

chilly ginkgo
topaz marsh
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you guys will not like it but the SM was just a cameo and helped moved the story along i think no faction or more story with SM will arise unless something happens with the enclave (personal thoughts)

chilly ginkgo
tidal kraken
wise heart
tidal kraken
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And there's a bunch of anti-mutant movements in the NCR itself.

wise heart
tidal kraken
kind marten
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yea I think its pretty clearly set up that way to parallel MAximus caring about gohuls, that is why he leaves NCR ultimately

tidal kraken
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Both can be true.

honest coyote
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holy shit ron perlman cameo as a super mutant im going to die

chilly ginkgo
bleak glen
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De aged Kyle MacLachlan is so scary

tidal kraken
wise heart
rancid holly
tidal kraken
rancid holly
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Hell Yeah

rapid patrol
rancid holly
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That's sick

snow lark
tidal kraken
wise heart
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Still thinking about the indiana jones reffrence on how max survived the bomb

rapid patrol
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Sure Ghouls get discrimination but werent there Ghoul NCR Troopers/Rangers in New Vegas

topaz marsh
snow lark
rapid patrol
chilly ginkgo
tidal kraken
tidal kraken
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They make some legal advancements, but they still allow large amounts of discrimination to fester.

rapid patrol
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With how the show is pointing it out. Seems the NCR’s current politics was fighting for their rights

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and im saying “current” not during new vegas

tidal kraken
topaz marsh
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ticking time bombs want rights lol

rapid patrol
tidal kraken
tidal kraken
rapid patrol
chilly ginkgo
tidal kraken
rapid patrol
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Its clear theres gonna have to be some alliance to fight off the Enclave. Especially with a New NEW California republic

tidal kraken
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I'm just arguing on the pretense that he can have a reason to dislike the faction.

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I don't know his logistical knowledge, or military. All this conversation was, was if discrimination was a good enough reason.

rapid patrol
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He doesnt like them and we understand theres some sort of remnants of Super Mutants left

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because he is talking more so about the conflict. He didnt save the Ghoul only to show compassion and they were kin. He did it to spread awareness or a warning

tidal kraken
rapid patrol
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and again this new NCR can change. This show is clearly building it again

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It also seems like the show is very bias for the NCR rather than talk about the politics that would have led to its downfall

tidal kraken
rocky mortar
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Luther played the boogy woogy

rapid patrol
chilly ginkgo
rocky mortar
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So that must have been one of those smart super mutants like Marcus

bleak glen
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So is that piece of Uranium just chilling in his stomach now or

tidal kraken
rocky mortar
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Imagine the healing powers he has now

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Cooper got a huge healing perk

lapis knot
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When the mutant came over and cut the metal post in half I legit thought it was fucking GORIS

rocky mortar
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He may be near immortal now

lapis knot
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He was making deathclaw noises too

midnight lily
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Chris Avellone would’ve died from stroke lol

chilly ginkgo
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by the way why would that mutant have gore bags lol

snow lark
tidal kraken
tidal kraken
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He probably viewed Coop as kin so he helped him. Rather he says this outright, he was trying to recruit Cooper.

rapid patrol
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I mean with the current state of the NCR seems like Lucy is going to be the person to bring it back or Maximus with how much ties they have for shady sands

tidal kraken
ocean isle
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I would presume the uranium also helped against him going feral?

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Though I’ve heard radiation cures for ghouls increase feral chances

ocean isle
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And he was already almost going feral while on the pole

tidal kraken
rocky mortar
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He got the ghoul juice back off camera

chilly ginkgo
rocky mortar
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Or the mutant put ghoul juice in him off camera

ocean isle
jaunty summit
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Why are people so quick to jump to X definitely confirms Y

tidal kraken
untold arrow
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Was that modus in the elevator?

tidal kraken
rapid patrol
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did anyone watch season 1

rocky mortar
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It was the enclave scientist from s1

lapis knot
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Uranium would probably wake feralisation worse

rocky mortar
untold arrow
chilly ginkgo
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for some reason almost every important character is pre war in this show smh

lapis knot
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Excessive Radiation has always been implied to further and possibly cause feralisation

ocean isle
tidal kraken
# chilly ginkgo well he seemed pretty rational talking to him so it seems weird nevertheless

You can still come across as rational and still kill people.
Him talking to Cooper is a form of him trying to recruit him - so he's gonna seem nice and rational from that perspective, that's why he said "we" implying there's more, and explained his viewpoint. So the mutant probably values all mutant kind, including ghouls over humans. We dunno, that's just an assumption.

rocky mortar
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He remembered his family’s alive and what his name is
And it pushed back the ghoulification meter

lapis knot
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It will help him temporarily , but would have to be removed

tidal kraken
lapis knot
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Unless he’s healing around it

snow lark
lapis knot
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Also did anyone think it was ultracite crystals

wicked nimbus
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It shows an organized faction made up of “abominations” who want to destroy the enclave

snow lark
untold arrow
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Also that super mutant feels like it's trying to redo what the master did

tidal kraken
lapis knot
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Uranium even in fallout isn’t uh, giant glowing crystals. Thats ultracite

bleak glen
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I hope we see Marcus next season

silk cape
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Seeing bud askins talking about monitising the early warning system makes me glad he got killed

lapis knot
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Seems like it’s because media has basically forced laymen to see radiation and radioactive things as glowing green

snow lark
lapis knot
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Irl it’s boring metal

wicked nimbus
lapis knot
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Spicy high carb metal, but still boring metal coloured metal

wicked nimbus
snow lark
wicked nimbus
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How do you get more quests

tidal kraken
snow lark
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first get lucy, then in 8 days hank will come to the vault, then like 20 days cooper comes

snow lark
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it says in the top left corner

untold arrow
wicked nimbus
lapis knot
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I gotta say the supermutant design is good, it’s like the deathclaws. A mix of the designs

snow lark
wicked nimbus
midnight lily
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Perhaps this dude is a second gen mutant? But those are the dumb dumbs

snow lark
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you need to find the sav file, decrypt it, and change some numbers, encrypt it again

lapis knot
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It’s not the derpy but imposing 4 design, and it’s not the buff but ultimately rather cringe faced pre 4 design.

tidal kraken
wicked nimbus
bleak glen
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I REALLY hope the super mutant leads to a new faction, they haven't introduced like any factions in the show

untold arrow
snow lark
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i think what we got is better then fo4 design

lapis knot
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Those are hella cringe ,gonna be honest

quasi jackal
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Maybe the children of atom have spread even more since fo4 and that's what's giving the bos such a tough time now, a massive religious organization with actual paranormalesque abilities

lapis knot
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Marcus is the only one from pre f3 that looks remotely serviceable because he doesn’t have the stupid ‘Ima put robe between my mouth’ look

untold arrow
tidal kraken
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The reason why i think it's a new faction and it's own thing, is because this is something they have to consider for Fallout 5, if they're mentioning a War. We already know it's like 95% possible we're getting playable Ghouls.
There HAS to be a Faction that'll be more Ghoul/Mutant related that you can probably support/join.

rocky mortar
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This is the best fallout show

quasi jackal
lapis knot
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It works with the 3-nv mutants because it’s implied that that west coast strain produces mutants who’s facial muscles are so deformed it gives them a constant grimace

wicked nimbus
rocky mortar
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You can be a ghoul in 76 and it sounds awful

midnight lily
lapis knot
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If we take them as being what 1-2 should be it works better. But the talking heads just look so stupid

untold arrow
tidal kraken
tidal kraken
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Plus I get to fully take advantage of my stash of 100+ psychos.

wicked nimbus
lapis knot
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I’m really glad they had us hating barb up til now

rocky mortar
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Till now? When did we stop

wicked nimbus
lapis knot
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Once we learnt she’s being blackmailed

midnight lily
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He looks more like a fallout 4 mutie

bleak glen
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that's just a green dude idk

tidal kraken
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A better version of the FO4 design

untold arrow
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I don't see it

snow lark
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yeah it's just a green guy

midnight lily
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But again it’s probably a budget thing

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They blew all the creature budget on deathclaws this season lol

tidal kraken
wicked nimbus
untold arrow
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Honestly I was hoping for goris when I saw the Cloak

lapis knot
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I mean realistically all the super mutants would be unique. And they are to a degree. But they are sorta just near identical barring warts

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So was I, they even cock blocked us by having deathclaw noises coming from him

wicked nimbus
lapis knot
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They knew damn fucking well what they were doing

wicked nimbus
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I heard the roar and was convinced it’s gorris

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Literal edging

rocky mortar
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Look at this big green guy

tidal kraken
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Nah they nailed the passive mutant noises, 100%

rocky mortar
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What!? Who’s there

tidal kraken
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if you ever played stealth around mutants, those noises are freaky

rocky mortar
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A Noise!?

tidal kraken
wicked nimbus
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I never have heard it

rocky mortar
tidal kraken
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it's freaky, next time give it a chance. Like the heavy breathing the shuffling of their feet. at least to me, i think the showrunners nailed it. lmao

wicked nimbus
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I thought the cloak was gorris and the roar I didn’t listen to the shuffles

midnight lily
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Interesting bit from an interview Ron did today

untold arrow
wicked nimbus
midnight lily
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It’d be killer if this dude was a general in the Master’s army, disillusioned with the world

untold arrow
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Enclave is 100% winning this season to build up for season 3

lapis knot
rocky mortar
lapis knot
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Goris ponders his noninclusion

summer bronze
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Everybody go to IMDB and rate it a 10

wicked nimbus
summer bronze
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I'm not asking, I'm telling

rocky mortar
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Killed their president blew up raven rock
Enclave are like rad roaches

wicked nimbus
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It would be stupid to not have tons of bases scattered around the US

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That way if one fails there are still others

rocky mortar
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Marcus would never

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He’s nice

untold arrow
bleak glen
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i hope the enclave die in season 3 so they can stay the fuck out of fallout 5

digital nacelle
summer bronze
rocky mortar
untold arrow
summer bronze
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Maybe they're like the Khans

bleak glen
digital nacelle
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Frankly, I'm rather sick of the Enclave myself; if beating them in 2 and 3 didn't put them in the dirt for good, how can we be sure beating them in Fallout 5 will actually stick?

rocky mortar
untold arrow
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I hope we can join the Enclave in FO5 if their in

midnight lily
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If anything I think Fallout 5 will address the power switch from Lost Hills to the Commonwealth

wicked nimbus
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Guys I don’t get why we have enclave hate

digital nacelle
rocky mortar
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Bad guys

bleak glen
wicked nimbus
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Excuse me?

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Did I just hear heresy

digital nacelle
midnight lily
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I assumed the Enclave is a bigger presence in the past, but are scattered remnant cells in the wastelands

Like in the show we have House spooked by them, and then manipulating Vault Tec behind the scenes

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I think in lonesome road it’s said there’s a base in Chicago. Maybe they got wiped out by the Midwest BOS. Who knows

wicked nimbus
summer bronze
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I fucking called it

rocky mortar
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Damn

lapis knot
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Unrelated but I kinda hope the midwestern chapter shows up

wicked nimbus
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And it makes sense to have a big faction protect the water so a corrupt raider faction doesn’t hoard it and charge people for water

lapis knot
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This Shows the design for the tactics self made armour can work in the modern power armour frame

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Looks damn good too

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They seem to be going ham on tactics tidbits this season

untold arrow
silk cape
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Chet keeps gettijng screwed

bleak glen
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They're gonna finally canonize Fallout:Brotherhood of Steel next season

wicked nimbus
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The greatest game oat

lapis knot
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Dear god no

midnight lily
wicked nimbus
midnight lily
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Glory to the calculator

silk cape
digital nacelle
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Frankly, what is stopping Betty from having her security forces deal with the Stephanie problem?

wicked nimbus
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Poor wilzig he has such a sad story

tidal kraken
silk cape
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Also steph canx just lock the door

solid igloo
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT, WILZIG

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WE'RE BACK, AMERICA

silk cape
solid igloo
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Man, I should've stayed up ti watch last night. Oh well, next time. But man, it's great to see the Enclave doing deep-state stuff.

topaz marsh
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god bless the enclave

midnight lily
silk cape
solid igloo
silk cape
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Wait the legion endorses canabilsm

solid igloo
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Wasn't that known for a while? Hell, the President himself was in the Enclave, and enough members in Congress that the White House was empty after they relocated to the Rig

silk cape
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I never thought the legion were open to cannibals

lethal nacelle
untold arrow
summer bronze
silk cape
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I always assumed they were just lying to the white gloves

lethal nacelle
summer bronze
silk cape
silk cape
summer bronze
silk cape
lapis knot
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It would be hella cool if max meets up with the Midwest bos and doesn’t realise it cus they take in anyone

summer bronze
tidal kraken
silk cape
tidal kraken
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but idk, the legion could change in 15 years. lol

summer bronze
untold arrow
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And this is after Caesar's death, things definitely changed after that

midnight lily
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I mean the legion assimilates tribes right? Maybe one of the tribes was a cannibal one

untold arrow
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They probably took in the fiends maybe

silk cape
tidal kraken
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Quite a few people actively disagree with that, which i think is hilarious, but i digress. Yeah. I think either way it can work, either the Legion changed after Caesar's death, or one of the tribes they assimilated, the cannibalistic aspect stuck.

tidal kraken
silk cape
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Fair but like one of ulysses big turning points was the loss of his own culture

tidal kraken
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Yeah but he still became a prolific member of the Frumentarii, no? So he stuck around, even if it was a turning point.

silk cape
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Like i can’t imagine caesar would have allowed the omertas to keep dealing drugs and women

untold arrow
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Honestly this episode felt like a filler episode

tidal kraken
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The legion probably doesn't care that much, as much as they prop Caesar up. They still disobey.

silk cape
tidal kraken
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Like the Frumentarii are supposed to be actively hunting Joshua, after he killed a bunch of them, they lie to Caesar about him. lol

untold arrow
high shuttle
silk cape
regal whale
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it's for the same reason I really don't give a shit about the main plots of 3 or 4.

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I don't care about finding father etc. I wanna see the world and what people have done with it.

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And there's very little of that. Stuff just... happens.

lethal nacelle
regal whale
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It's not bad

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But stuff just happens

small canopy
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They should’ve dropped the final three episodes at once.

Still time to drop the last two simultaneously…

bleak glen
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this show is so obsessed with the pre war man it bums me out

small canopy
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Still, I’m just glad we got supermutants. Are we guessing that’s Marcus? That was Perlman’s voice right?

digital nacelle
small canopy
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I thought maybe they edited it somehow.

small canopy
digital nacelle
high shuttle
small canopy
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It’s looking less and less likely that we’ll get to see the Tops.

untold arrow
small canopy
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They’re just gonna go straight for the Lucky 38

digital nacelle
regal whale
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I don't mind pre war as it seems to have some actual factions involved.

A lot of the post war stuff feels really chaotic and mad and like... each faction is either gone or killed itself.

bleak glen
lapis knot
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We’ve literally never got any pre war lore beyond the main corps and them doing shady experimental weapons

silk cape
lapis knot
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This is good, it further explores the pre war enclave, public perception.

small canopy
high shuttle
digital nacelle
rapid patrol
small canopy
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Whoa we’re all just joking around here ok ✅

digital nacelle
small canopy
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He’s not one of those trolls who just constantly shit on it

rapid patrol
digital nacelle
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Yeah, the aesthetics are actually pretty dang good all things considered.

small canopy
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(Speech check passed)

bleak glen
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I think Hank is a really interesting villain though, i think he builds on the idea of "War Never Changes, then Men Must Change" in a pretty fun way

wicked nimbus
regal whale
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I don't even think they're refusing to canonise an ending, I don't think they even want capable factions at all

midnight lily
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It’s simple. A dragon break happened at the battle of Hoover dam

high shuttle
digital nacelle
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It's just as a NV player, it just feels wrong to see the Mojave either unchanged from back then or somehow even worse off. Like, it just makes me feel like I just fucking wasted my time. I dunno, honestly.

small canopy
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I think S2 has been a much better showing than S1, even though the total amount of people watching has gone down

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Feels like they’re starting to get into the groove of it

rapid patrol
rocky mortar
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S2 has been amazing

bleak glen
small canopy
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Not everyone agrees with the story choices but the actors are really falling into their roles. Like I like Maximus and Lucy a lot more this season

silk cape
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This show did pick an ending its just not played out the way it was meant to

digital nacelle
# rapid patrol this also happens to be 15 years later

Fallout 2 occurred 80-ish years after Fallout 2, and the Core Region/West Coast was demonstratably better off from Fallout 1. The show takes place 15 years after NV, and the place might as well be unchanged from back then or even worse off.

bleak glen
small canopy
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Thaddeus even has been redeemed since he stood between Xander’s gun and those kids

high shuttle
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I for one think S2 is definitely trying to connect more with in-game lore than S1
Given that S1 was a run test to see how well people recieved it it makes sense

midnight lily
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Nuking shady sands kind of derails progress I think

digital nacelle
rapid patrol
small canopy
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I’ll always miss his voice though

steep spire
midnight lily
digital nacelle
high shuttle
lapis knot
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Mr Condo

summer bronze
rapid patrol
midnight lily
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Revenge for Navarro? I can dream

rapid patrol
tidal kraken
honest coyote
midnight lily
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Oh my god it’s War Never Changes Guy!

ornate pier
# midnight lily I think he said in an interview he tried to emulate Rene’s performance

There is a new interview with Rafi Silver and he talks about how they each try and have their own take on Rene without it being an impersonation

Oh and guess what his wife used to do voice over casting work...and yeah she worked on FNV. She was his reading partner and started to recognize stuff, even with the fake title and other stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acWv3LL1LLU&t=1076s

It's spoilers spoiler spoilers ahead in this CBR Interview!! Fallout Season 2 dives deeper into New Vegas mythology — and actor Rafi Silver reveals why the Robert House twist is going to shock even the most devoted Fallout fans.

Rafi breaks down playing “a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude,” exploring his layered role and how ...

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ancient barn
digital nacelle
small canopy
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Chris Avellone has my eternal gratitude (mostly bc of KOTOR2) but he’s being a fuddy duddy about the show

midnight lily
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I think the only retcon was moving it closer to LA

ornate pier
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I didn't realize Rafi was also teaching at Columbia.

midnight lily
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Every time he tried to do it other devs or Bethesda told him no

digital nacelle
ornate pier
last hornet
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"We get to decide who runs out of water" man that scientist is diabolical, but his adaptation skills to spin failure into success makes me wanna see him survive into the wasteland just so he can get shot by someone from vault 33

small canopy
midnight lily
small canopy
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Thaddeus is from the Boneyard!! My fuckin’ homie ❤️

midnight lily
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Maybe he knew the followers of the apocalypse

small canopy
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I just know they’re setting him up for a heroic sacrifice I can feel it

rapid patrol
distant jay
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Shady Sands is only close to the Boneyard because they couldn't have Lucy and Maximus go on a detour to Death Valley last season to deliver a character development moment for her.

midnight lily
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Yea it’s just plot economy stuff

ornate pier
small canopy
distant jay
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I think we can just ignore the relocation and the other visual changes we're seeing, part of the limitations of the medium.

midnight lily
#

Also in the games things are scaled up and down

distant jay
worthy fractal
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we need more of super mutants and more of Enclave

small canopy
distant jay
small canopy
midnight lily
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I can’t wait for the series finale when Ron Perlmutant says “war actually changes a lot actually”

small canopy
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I’m more pissed off they used an abridged version of Big Iron

distant jay
crude nacelle
distant jay
small canopy
midnight lily
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Ruined forever Todd and Emil killed my family

distant jay
small canopy
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But maybe that was just me silently wishing I’d see cold fusion and Helios one combined

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Since we saw Helios One in the background already by that point

small canopy
steep spire
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barbara having to deny the 25th vault proposal that says "what if all the women couldn't wear clothes and it was just me and the boys with them"

digital nacelle
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Brotherhood reclaiming Helios One would've been cool.

small canopy
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I just wish Coop had kept the grenade rifle the Khan had

steep spire
distant jay
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It'd ruin his cowboy vibe tho.

small canopy
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Thump Thump is by far my favorite weapon to use this playthrough

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It doesn’t do much against deathclaws but oh boy groups of soft targets

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Vulpes for instance

steep spire
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my goat vulpes

digital nacelle
steep spire
ancient barn
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If only they had the Courier's Stash DLC installed when they got to vegas

small canopy
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I don’t even listen to his speech anymore I just throw a grenade at his feet and go into vats with the Merc grenade rifle

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Blah blah blah I’ve heard it before bitch

midnight lily
#

Elijah and Quintus are very similar when I think about it. They’re basically non-knights or paladins promoted to elder and are both insane

digital nacelle
tidal kraken
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or maybe Max and Thaddeus were too far away.

summer bronze
last hornet
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so what exactly does the mind control chip do?

tidal kraken
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It rewrites the brain completely. As far as we can tell.

last hornet
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like earlier prototypes made people incredibly violent, the prototype we saw at the beginning turned people into puppets

and now it seems to make them really docile?

summer bronze
lapis knot
summer bronze
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Perhaps episode 7 could confirm my theory

lapis knot
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Lonesome road is legit just kreia but in fallout

summer bronze
lapis knot
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Bear bull bear bull let’s nuke everyone and I’m right cus of course I am I’m Ulysses , bear bull bear bull

last hornet
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from what i see, mind control chip erases the memories and makes the victim extremely docile and susceptible to suggestion/commands

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because theres no way hank would've known that someone previously cooked people for the legion (and i dont think the legion does that)

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the legion are rapists and slavers, but as far as we know they dont practice cannibalism

tidal kraken
summer bronze
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"lead developer"?..

crude nacelle
summer bronze
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Do they mean that he designed the bullets?

tidal kraken
lapis knot
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At best he was one of dozens of lead writers. He didn’t do any development and he certainly wasn’t ’the’ lead developer

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Plus his writing was the worst by far

tidal kraken
lapis knot
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He seems like an arrogant self absorbed narcissist.

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Which is pretty much what he is

tidal kraken
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He's very arrogant, yeah. Like I said before, there's a reason the old guard of the OG obsidian is back together - and Chris is the only dev not there.

last hornet
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next episodes gonna have a p major norm moment right?

tidal kraken
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Maybe, yeah - these last two episodes no one has seen.

crude nacelle
tidal kraken
summer bronze
tidal kraken
summer bronze
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It's kinda like a 343 and Bungie situation where neither is exactly perfect now

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Except 343 never made a great game, unlike the other 3 lol

tidal kraken
# summer bronze To be fair most would argue that they're not exactly as good as they used to be

Obsidian? Sure, but the old guard specifically? I'm inclined to believe it solely because Tim Cain is back as the lead, and he's come out of retirement for it specifically. He's got a lot of insight and reflection compared to people like Chris, so at the very least. I'm more than willing to give Tim Cain and the old team the benefit of the doubt because they're not miserable POS. lol

summer bronze
silk cape
summer bronze
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Some people call the Outer Worlds mid, I haven't played much but it certainly is no New Vegas from what I've seen people say

I do like his youtube channel though

high shuttle
snow lark
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did you all see the big spoiler posted on an actors insta

high shuttle
tidal kraken
snow lark
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it's a huge spoiler!

tidal kraken
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yeah PUT THAT IN SPOILERS NOT HERE

snow lark
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why did they post this on insta

high shuttle
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Maybe best to just put it in spoilers completely

tidal kraken
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delete this before others see it, please. Lol

snow lark
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true yea

tidal kraken
summer bronze
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"listen little lady, you signed House's contract"

small canopy
#

Spoilers

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SPOILERS

ancient barn
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Isnt this the spoiler thread

small canopy
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Nein

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This is the episode discussion thread. There is a general spoilers thread for stuff like that.

frosty basin
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This is discussion/spoilers specifically for E6, that’s what that comment was

small canopy
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Nope. What was posted was a spoiler image from insta that’s ep7 or 8 even

frosty basin
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yes, that was already addressed.

Your ‘spoiler’ response was right after Shady’s comment specifically talking about a thing with Hank from E6 that they now deleted because of your comment lol

high shuttle
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crude nacelle
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I don't consider it a spoiler because I didn't show the thing itself but maybe you're right

topaz marsh
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Isnt everything considerd a spoiler

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If we talking about the latest ep

high shuttle
snow lark
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but what i posted was maybe future episodes

topaz marsh
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Ah ok

snow lark
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but you might be onto something, apparently there was a cut hallucination scene

lunar osprey
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Is the conversation of Ghouls being buffed definitively confirmed now? Or are people still convinced they havent been

snow lark
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what are you doing max

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dude why is he so upset

fallow lark
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just finished the episode

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holy shit, supermutant appearance

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and wilzig! and also more barb!

wary dawn
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I hope that ranger isn't hard wiped

fallow lark
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also, holy shit, coop getting close enough to feral to have to repeat his name and janey's name was so fucking sad

fierce pond
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right

distant jay
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And also making the feral noises.

tidal kraken
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The closest we've seen him to dying tbf

fierce pond
tidal kraken
fallow lark
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i also think thats the first time that coop has used his own name as the ghoul on screen

wary dawn
snow lark
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yeah :(

fallow lark
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also, hank is moving fast with those chips

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i hope those other ncr soldiers didnt get killed or also kidnapped when they got him

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also. that supermutant and i presume the other mutants at that church are living in secret and planning to take on the enclave? good for them

lapis knot
fallow lark
lapis knot
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Which in hindsight makes the reveal barbs not like, actively evil even worse because it’s now clear that he was still with her at least in secret

fallow lark
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spending all these years to find your family and your daughter screams and runs bc who the hell is this noseless zombie

lapis knot
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I’m assuming they came to the decision she had to keep cover and the only way to do that was to ruin his rep

fallow lark
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and i was all in on actively evil barb, but the fact that she's basically being pressed on all sides, first by vault-tec and then by the enclave and she's just trying to save what she can

lapis knot
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I mean that would happen anyway because he’s actively gone to resistance meetings. But this way it’s useful

fallow lark
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woof. frances and walton's scenes together were so good

frigid trellis
snow lark
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how many plots do we have now?

Vault 32-33
Vault 31 people and Norm
Lucy finding hank
Hanks chip stuff
Max and BoS
Super mutants
Prewar
Legion
NCR?
House

frigid trellis
lapis knot
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We’ve got enough plots to make a fallout game

fallow lark
lapis knot
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Oh wouldn’t you look at that fallout 5 is in progress I wonder

empty marten
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You mean the casswean

snow lark
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yeah but we also have 2 episodes left.

unreal hull
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I just realized that the Khan leader guy was at the Vault-Tec facility

frigid trellis
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The ghoul was the first character in media I felt fear of turning/dying in a long time I'm not gonna lie they executed it pretty well

fallow lark
empty marten
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Where did it say this

lapis knot
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Think the implication is that the Boston lot or the force left in the capital made a few more airships and sent a few reinforcements to the west chapters

frigid trellis
jaunty summit
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In season 1

fallow lark
lapis knot
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15 years is a lot of time to make more prydwyn class ships once they know how

jaunty summit
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Quintus mentions he's not surprised max said he ran as the commonwealth arent as dedicated as they are

frigid trellis
lapis knot
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And we know the base shell is pre war and potentially military now

jaunty summit
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Or words to that effect

tidal kraken
jaunty summit
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^ this

lapis knot
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I don’t think we really know if the prydwyn dropped off t-60 , or knights with their t-60

fallow lark
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also. the inbreeding club plotline is so stupid and yet so very fallout to me

lapis knot
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Titus seems more like a San Fernando member

frigid trellis
tidal kraken
lapis knot
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Quintus was also familiar enough with him to not be surprised he was cowardly. Which suggests he’s quintus’s and not from the east

snow lark
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someone said titus had a boston accent but i cannot tell that i am european

lapis knot
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He never mentioned anything specifically about it being because he’s from the east, just that the brotherhood in general has lost its way.

tidal kraken
lapis knot
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Then yeah, dead weight

fallow lark
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idk if that was supposed to signal that he's from the commonwealth or just a feature of the actor's voice

lapis knot
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Let’s be fair here that’s irelevent. He was a celeb cameo

lapis knot
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It was the ‘actor’ being the actor irl, an unlikable fuckwit who everyone was glad died a coward

frigid trellis
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So can someone explain how the enclave keeps coming back is it like a chapter thing like the brotherhood or like what and are they still trying their plans from fo2 in the show?

tidal kraken
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he quite literally became irrelevant when he died, like even the BOS didn't care too much once Maximus was like, "But wait, I can still help" they chose to believe Max instead.

lapis knot
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Absolutely no one was surprised Michael rappaport played an unlikable coward

frigid trellis
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Who

tidal kraken
fallow lark
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heads and tendrils everywhere

frigid trellis
lapis knot
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At this point they’re jsut running on 200 year old orders, all the presidents and important people are dead

fallow lark
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ahhhh. id say they probably all have the same core idea of, fuck the wasteland, we're the inheritors of civilization

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but idk that they all wanted to genocide the wastes like the ones at the oil rig did

lapis knot
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Functionally the enclaves missions don’t make sense

jaunty summit
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We don't know what the Enclave are currently planning we last saw them in 2008

tidal kraken
# frigid trellis So do they all have the same idea just like spread out like the NCR?

The Enclave is operated by the high command, so i have to imagine they're operating from somewhere with orders.
The fact of the matter is that despite us destroying branches and portions of the Enclave - they're still around, and in 76 they've been using it to establish the fact the Enclave has bases all over America that we've never seen/heard of.

reef briar
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Sucks post war House will most likely only appear for one episode, maybe for a bit in the next episode

empty marten
fallow lark
tidal kraken
empty marten
jaunty summit
empty marten
jaunty summit
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Until we go to that area/state the factions there are an unknown

reef briar
tidal kraken
fallow lark
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something tells me post war house is gonna be the one that gives coop the tip on where hank's vault is

lapis knot
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They are all dead , they lost like 20 people who had power Armour on in the s1 finale

reef briar
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The cold fusion should be given to the NCR🙏

tidal kraken
lapis knot
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If they had to get reinforcements , then they probably had like 15 knights max

tidal kraken
jaunty summit
reef briar
frigid trellis
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Are we just gonna ignore the fact Hank had a cold fusion inside of him? Yeah? Alright

tidal kraken
jaunty summit
lapis knot
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It was allready shown that was how it was transported in secret so

reef briar
frigid trellis
lapis knot
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With Hank the briefcase is a ruse. To make it seem important

tidal kraken
frosty basin
lapis knot
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People go fo the briefcase, get a fake or empty. And even if hanks killed the vault t3c or enclave reps can get it back

tidal kraken
jaunty summit
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Was the NCR guy the one with the bird, or just a similar old soldier?

lapis knot
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The only people who would even know to look in his body are who sent him to begin with. It’s a rather genius transport method. But it’s gotta hurt like hell

frigid trellis
tidal kraken
jaunty summit
lapis knot
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The fusion muffin is in a glass case and it’s not active.

wet harbor
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How much freaking people do hank got?

tidal kraken
tidal kraken
jaunty summit
lapis knot
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The lil pil likely contains the initial fuel

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The casign is probably lead

jaunty summit
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That's a sad fate

tidal kraken
frigid trellis
pliant owl
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So the enclave now is the remaining remnants??

frigid trellis
jaunty summit
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I do like how Hank deliberately chose some of the "worst" people in wasteland society

wet harbor
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Well, they have a centurion, but the legion should be alive because of trailers

pliant owl
jaunty summit
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Like me choosing the worst people in our society and going "See maybe taking away their free will isn't so bad?" Hmmmmm

lapis knot
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I love that they kept the centurions t-45 right arm

wet harbor
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Yah

lapis knot
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Even though it now makes no sense

pliant owl
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Also I personally thought the super mutant looked so good

frigid trellis
jaunty summit
wet harbor
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Thanks to the scene in alaska, the centurion pauldron adn salvaged pa makes more sense

pliant owl
lapis knot
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Not really. The t-45 there was the same size as the t-60

tidal kraken
lapis knot
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It’s still oversized. There’s just no robotic hand. It uses the soldiers own hands in armoured gloves

pliant owl
lapis knot
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No offence to Ron Perlman but he allready gives super mutant vibes out of makeup

frigid trellis
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I feel like Lucy's vault outfit changes every episode idk it just looks different everytime

jaunty summit
pliant owl
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Lmfao I mean you aren’t wrong there mando

fierce pond
pliant owl
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I just want Lucy to get a whole new fit 😭

lapis knot
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He’s the perf3ct person to do a non cg super mutant and you wouldn’t even need to change the voice

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They gave it a bit more gruff , but you can tell it’s Mr krabs

wet harbor
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Is bulky by default, maybe its a cut from it

snow lark
frigid trellis
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Bro idk I was thinking like Thanos start of end game

lapis knot
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I mean hell if they bring Marcus in the only accurate way would be to have Michael dorn jsut do his Michael dorn voice . No gravel or gruff

fierce pond
lapis knot
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Actually he sounds more like Mr worf than dorn. It’s the inflection

jaunty summit
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I do wonder why it held the frame on the "Simulation" sign when she captured Hank

pliant owl
lapis knot
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She’s seen in it in the trailer so she will

pliant owl
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Yeah also true

frigid trellis
jaunty summit
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Maybe to show that it's more he's putting on an act

frigid trellis
jaunty summit
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They wouldn't do that

fierce pond
frigid trellis
jaunty summit
pliant owl
frigid trellis
pliant owl
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I mean at least the vault purified water is perfect

wet harbor
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By the way, thadeus being from bineyatd means that is destroyed too?

fierce pond
tidal kraken
jaunty summit
jaunty summit
fierce pond
lapis knot
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My first priority would be robbing a suit of power armour and pimping it up to be like the blackbird elite

tidal kraken
fierce pond
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Yeah would probably have to drink nuka cola exclusively on the surface

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I mean I know that you have radaway and radiation is magic in fallout rather than how we have it

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Maybe you just bath in radioactive water and when you get sick buy some radaway

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Zion is full of clean water too

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Probably should’ve spent some more time robbing the shit out of Sonny’s, huh

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also the fat man who killed Sonny was so funny

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If they wanna make a relatable Fallout protagonist they need to make them better at looting and scavenging

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Because I would’ve taken everything in that store that wasn’t nailed down

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Idk 🤫

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So question do the two versions of sinclair sync up at all

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dental care for sure has to be the worse thing about their hygiene

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Maybe in the fallout world with all the dumped toxic waste this wouldn't be the case

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hm, there for sure has to be some clean water out there like that one person said lake mead for example, but there’s probably others that are above ground yet safe

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I mean the Mohave is the opposite of the Capital Wasteland in that not many bombs hit it

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yeah

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Like sinclair went from a love struck fool to kinda evil

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I wonder how the capital wasteland is

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# reef briar I wonder how the capital wasteland is

same it would be so cool to see it in the show or even other parts of the US, I’m not sure how they would tie in Lucy for example going across the country to say, the commonwealth but I would be super interesting to see those parts that were in the games

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Oh idk much about him </3 I never finished NV so all I know is he has something to do with big MT

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Enclave mentioned

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Johnny posted this on his instagram story earlier, I loove these behind the scenes photos

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Boneyard mention

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I recently arrived there two days ago since I’m doing my first play through of fallout 1 and it’s so incredibly cool learning about the LA area

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If they even make it that long, I really hope they do

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It’s confirmed we’re getting season 3 I just hope they keep it going for a while bc my greedy ass isn’t ready to let it go

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Didn’t they confirm they want to have 5 seasons?

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I haven’t heard anything about that

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Did Ron Perlman voice the super mutant?