EPISODE 8

[ripe haven]

somehow everyone is converging at vegas once again

[sacred idol]

It would be funny if House just speaks from a Pip-Boy from now on

[bleak moth]

Naw the main char is leavin

[dense wharf]

its a little silly, but with the show being what it is and with only so few episodes to work with showing the two legion camps fighting against each other is enough

[pulsar lintel]

the year is 2281
the legion and NCR are fighting over new vegas as mr house schemes
the year is 2296
the legion and NCR are fighting over new vegas as mr house schemes

[ripe haven]

war neves changes ahh

[dense wharf]

dont get me wrong i would've loved to see more Legion scenes but I can understand why there wasn't any

[patent dagger]

Not really no sillier than the normal guys in shades pretending to be romans, the powet struggle i expected

[pulsar lintel]

Dishonest ngl

[dense wharf]

thats just how praetorians look

[patent dagger]

The entire legion was in sunglasses

[tame owl]

People take the legion way too seriously.

They're Larping raiders.

Very successful ones sure

But I wouldn't look too much in to inconsistencies or weirdness

[patent dagger]

Like i never found the legion sillier than usual

[sacred idol]

NCR should wait until night to attack.

Night vision AMRs

[dense wharf]

because they are a serious threat

[tame owl]

Caesar himself admitted it was larping, just not in those words

[tame owl]

That they are, but that doesn't mean they're not a load of dudes in costume.

[dense wharf]

both the game and show portray them as more than just your average raider

[tame owl]

The danger comes from unity, which the costume provides, but it's still there

[dense wharf]

i dont think the costume is any sillier than the stuff we've already seen in fallout

[patent dagger]

I do miss the legion spies

[tame owl]

The only counter to a legionairre with sunglasses' aura is a veteran ranger with a big fuckin gun

Like, an NCR trooper will kill 5 guys running at him with spears, but he won't look as cool doing it

[dense wharf]

I think people over-exaggerate the melee focus of the Legion

[pulsar lintel]

The power struggle being between two unserious mooks over a body separating two small camps with a pile of dirt is like intentionally meant to be as absurd as possible. I think it’s kind of obvious this is further on the scale of absurdity just from a logistics perspective than a faction wearing scavenged armor that’s meant to promote unity between disparate tribes.

[tame owl]

Tbh I liked that the legion in the show had a lot more guns than in the game

Because so many melee focussed dudes is just... no

[dense wharf]

in game the legion is armed to the teeth with guns

[tame owl]

the NCR gives every trooper a service rifle, they're cooked

[tame owl]

Not on the same scale as the NCR

Like it's not even a contest

[dense wharf]

like its only the recruit legionaries that run at you with machetes, and even then they still spawn with basic lever action rifles

[pulsar lintel]

Recruits in game use machetes and spears quite a bit but their arsenal is diverse

[tame owl]

They have a lot of guys with cowboy repeaters and a few dudes towards the end with marksman carbines etc, but the bulk of what you fight is stabby

[dense wharf]

you go higher up in the ranks, veteran legionaries are gunning you down with powerful rifles and smgs

go even higher in the ranks, and their centurions are rocking anti-materiel rifles and stuff like power fists

[patent dagger]

Did anyone spot the legion having axes

[patent dagger]

Show did lots of spears and axes

[tame owl]

Yeah but the conflict between the 2 sides, when it got hot, had a lot of guns

[patent dagger]

True marching on vegas was different

[pulsar lintel]

Yeah personally I think the upper legion ranks having a even more diverse armament than seen in game would have been interesting. More energy weapons, actual sniper rifles for veterans, just a crazy diversity of guns. The 4 corners are fairly unlooted in comparison to Cali/Nevada as established in NV lore, plenty of opportunity for pre war military stockpiles to be found if the writers wanted that to be the case.

[dense wharf]

melee is undoubtably a core part of the legion's identity but all im saying is that they're not just going unga bunga charging at the opponent

[tame owl]

Just imagining a column of legionaires armed with machetes rocking up to Vegas and being greeted by a deathclaw

https://tenor.com/view/cutting-you-up-to-pieces-cutting-meat-meat-raw-meat-gif-16981199536117930554

[tame owl]

My point was just that it's hard to take them seriously in game when so few of them are armed and the NCR is very well armed.

The show does actually have them using quite a bit of firepower in the fort fight so that's quite nice to see.

[dense wharf]

like i just took a look at the recruit legionary item spawn on the wiki and there are more guns on here than i remember

[patent dagger]

Do we ever see energy weapons in legion hands, hell tv brotherhood barely uses them

[tame owl]

I don't recall ever finding one

But yeah I'd be curious as to what the spawn rates are

usually the machete guys will have a 9mm/10mm and not be using it

[dense wharf]

no, the legion trying to acquire energy weapons is actually a plot point in NV

[pulsar lintel]

They try to buy a bunch off the Van Graffs, we don’t see them using any energy weapon guns though.

[tame owl]

In a patrol of 4 you'll get like 2 melee guys, 1 throwing spears then charging in, then a rifle/shotgun guy

[patent dagger]

Not the best one mind that quest is oddly paced

[dense wharf]

they have a thing going on with the Van Graffs

[patent dagger]

You killed cass?

[pulsar lintel]

In one playthrough yeah

The tv BoS not using energy weapons more is kind of nonsensical anyways, don’t really understand that

Goes against like every other depiction of the BoS we’ve seen in this series

[patent dagger]

Only theory is the western chapters are under supplied

[pulsar lintel]

“Under equipped” my ass

So under supplied they’re fully outfitted with T-60 for all of their knights and have an airship.

[dense wharf]

maximus only ever using a 10mm pistol was odd yeah

[pulsar lintel]

Not to mention taking Area 51

[dense wharf]

Quintus' Chapter should logically be armed to the teeth

[pulsar lintel]

We see them packing Tesla cannons in S1 too we just don’t see them use em

[dense wharf]

though being real the answer as to why that is probably "we ran outta budget"

[patent dagger]

Or the laser rifle model we see does not fit the armoured costumes hands

[abstract scarab]

The show seems to operate on the idea of specifically made power armor weapons being used. The assault rifle is properly scaled to being an LMG, the T60 pistol is huge and bulky, the super sledge is one handed

[pulsar lintel]

Quintus’ chapter should be outfitted with plenty of laser pistols, laser rifles, gauss rifles, and gatling lasers.

[abstract scarab]

Ideally the infantry should be using laser rifles instead, while the power armor uses laser gatlings and other heavy weapons

[icy pagoda]

I mean a comment is made that their group has significantly less Knights when compared to others and way more scribes. They definitely don't strike me as particularly well armed when compared to any other BoS chapter, maybe even worse

[random bramble]

Maximus was freaked out by the fact that Xander possibly had a spare suit of pa

He was forcing that east coast wealth

[abstract scarab]

The east coast brotherhood has way more suits than they do troops. They got a shitload of T-45 from the Pentagon and converted most of it to T-60 already. Their limiting factor is probably either fusion core power or manpower.

The west coast had limited power armor until they raided enclave caches and could dismantle APA to build their own suits.

[errant trout]

The thing the vault dwellers were chanting outside the door was the exact same thing written on the walls before the vault got cleaned up seems like a mighty coincidence

[patent dagger]

We do see laser rifles in the enclave mp hands

[tame owl]

I knew I'd seen that before

thank you

that was bugging me

[random bramble]

Is the converting to t-60 hard lore?

[viral vine]

Man they really missed a “war, war never changes” opportunity, at the end of this, I mean they said the word war when watching the legion come into new Vegas

[pulsar lintel]

Please no

[random bramble]

I want them to write it into every single episode at least once

[patent dagger]

Yeah that was a leap

[viscid fog]

No that’s headcanon

[mystic plaza]

Not just that Maximus was listing off PA mods they don't have in the West on both suits lol

[mystic plaza]

It's the most logical conclusion based on PA lore. Like we can predict T65 was gonna be next in line, but never made mainline production therefore it's given to the SS.

[patent dagger]

I kinda wish the quintus chapter had t-45 to really show the difference

[viscid fog]

I wish T-51 existed at all in the show

[abstract scarab]

Source I made it the fuck up but the way the SS commissioned T-65 makes me think it was an upgrade to the T-51 instead

[mystic plaza]

Given the bulk and structure, I could see it. Lol but T65 is actually a really good looking set, it's up there with T51 for me.

[viscid fog]

Yeah T-65 looks closer to T-51 than T-60 even does to T-45

It’s just an uparmored thick version of T-51 with a rando helmet killing the set visually imo

[mystic plaza]

Do we think they're gonna come up with another power armor set for FO5? Lmao

[abstract scarab]

Yes

[patent dagger]

X-03
Or legion power armour

[mystic plaza]

I somewhat agree. I feel like the helmet was designed to fit the light armor version more for consistency sake but it throws the design for a loop.

[abstract scarab]

T-75, made literally the day before the bombs fell. Somehow everyonr has a set.

[abstract scarab]

X-03 is Hellfire armor

[patent dagger]

X-05 then

So good we skip 4

[viscid fog]

Yeah I get the reason given it’s literally secret service armor but I don’t like that set either as the metal is too smooth and lacks detailing while the helmet is a stormtrooper

Which like fair given they are prewar Fasict death troopers but looks ugly imo

[abstract scarab]

X-05 would probably be the Equalizer/Vulcan armor, itself a prototype for Horrigan's armor

[patent dagger]

X -1 then

[abstract scarab]

X(-1) is all the way back to T-51 tbf

[patent dagger]

T-51 still good

[viscid fog]

I mean unofficially anyways

[mystic plaza]

Unironically, the normal Enclave outfits they made in 76 look better, imho.

[viscid fog]

TRUE

[tame reef]

agree

only explanation I can think of is lanius failed during hoover dam and thus got the burned man treatment

[pulsar lintel]

“Caesar is too selfish to name an heir” mf’s when he literally has a named heir already

[tame reef]

and then caeser got even more delusional because of his brain tumor

[tame reef]

the show took the faction with the least depth in new vegas and took away any semblance they had

[pulsar lintel]

Yes

This is the problem with the second season overall. It’s retreading ground with a conflict we’ve already seen but making every faction even more one note and adding a grand conspiracy twist to it with the Enclave on top of everything else that is not nearly as intriguing as people are making it out to be.

[elfin shuttle]

If they play their cards right, with all the arcs they could conjure, I can see this show going for 5+ seasons

[shrewd helm]

Kinda the same reason Alexander the great said "my successor is the strongest"
He wanted a state on his terms ruled by him he's a very sad little man who refuses to allow another to take the helm of what he has built it lives with him and it seemingly dies with him simply because he refuses to have it any other way

[pulsar lintel]

The Enclave manipulating everything from the shadows is so incongruous with how they’ve been depicted beforehand I hardly find it reconcilable.

[pulsar lintel]

Caesar already has a heir in NV, and presumably before the first battle as well.

It’s whatever Legatus serves directly under him

[warped ocean]

The hell is incongruous 😭

[shrewd helm]

Yeah and considering we didn't have lanius slitting culkins throat and taking over it's a good guess to imagine he got joshua'd and then caesar keeled over

[mystic plaza]

Assuming Lanius died.

[pulsar lintel]

Caesar has many Legates he could name

[mystic plaza]

But the only one that FNV recognizes as a loosely defacto heir is Lanius.

[warped ocean]

Kevin vs lanius in s63🙀

[pulsar lintel]

The game never indicates he plans on the Legion dying leaderless without him and that would be in character

[shrewd helm]

There is also... Maybe Vulpes Inculta but he isn't a legate
If i had to choose an heir I'd probably say him because from what i understand he seems to be the best option i think? Joshua didn't have a mind for logistics lanius is just a brute
I think Vulpes was more balanced

[pulsar lintel]

Lanius replaced Joshua’s role as heir. Similarly there’d presumably be other Legates lined up for the role, especially if Caesar was still waging a war to conquer the Mojave, which his bodies location implies.

Like Caesar outright confirms there more Legates than Lanius in NV

The only reality where this makes any sense is if Caesar continued fighting after Lanius died without a Legate serving under him and became so depressed/senile he just had a change in character and decided to name no one to lead the Legion.

Which also doesn’t make much sense

[mystic plaza]

Yes, but that was orchestrated by the fact of Caesar's encounter with Lanius's tribe, and Lanius is the exception, not the rule.
I don't think the Legate heirarchy is structure functions the same because Lanius was propped up as a symbol for the Legion that's why he's the heir. Because technically, if we're being honest, Lanius's tenure doesn't qualify him as an heir, there were other Legates that outranked him but experience, and other means.

But Lanius also isn't loyal to the Legion, he's loyal to Edward. Which is probably why he'd be the only one fit for an heir because he'd carry Edward's vision. But if Lanius dies, like we're assuming he did - I highly, HIGHLY doubt there's anyone at all capable of leading the Legion left which is why the note exists.

[warped ocean]

Roman politics slop

[shrewd helm]

Assuming Lanius died before Caesar and he knew he was on his way out the Alexander the great parallel still kinda works
Lanius is chosen because of his brutality he will lead the legion, he will win a lot but he will not LEAD the legion if you get what i mean

[mystic plaza]

I genuinely don't think it's that deep. I think Caesar saw the writing on the wall, and made the decision to not name an heir because no one capable was left.

[shrewd helm]

Yeah that's my thinking too

[mystic plaza]

If there was another Lanius, or Vulpes, they'd be present, and there wouldn't be a fighting over No Man's Land that's comical. lmao

[shrewd helm]

Yeah it is it really is
But it's also satisfying
They did the same thing Rome did they rose they fell they will wither into obscurity

Or there will be a man to replace Edward Sallow
And then they will rise again

[pulsar lintel]

Lanius is only considered above the other legates not because of his leadership acumen, at least to our knowledge, but because Caesar needed a man so terrifying that the Legion would not retreat from the Dam a second time. Caesar was not considering their viability as a leader without him when he selected Lanius.

Like, if he’s back in the Mojave and still waging a war before he dies he still needs a war general to direct his operations. Especially considering his diminished ability as a commander due to his tumor. I just don’t really see a logical outcome here where he wouldn’t have someone to be the obvious next in line to the point he goes out of his way to spite the rest of the Legion. This isn’t his character.

[mystic plaza]

Fair, but that doesn't negate him BEING the heir when Caesar dies regardless.

[shrewd helm]

And this kinda discussion is why i don't like showrunners feeling pressured to not let an ending be cannon
Instead of a definitive we got a watered down fallout dust

No one won everyone is in shambles have fun picking up the pieces

[mystic plaza]

If Caesar dies before Lanius, Lanius is the heir, and continues to lead the Legion, for better or worse.
My point is that Caesar deemed Lanius capable to do so despite it not being his character is somewhat irrelevant -

The point is Caesar makes the decision, and Lanius follows. But if Lanius dies before Caesar. The only other possible candidate is Vulpes, who we also presume dead cause he's just not present.

It seems more like all the viable candidates for the Legion's continuation died at the Hoover Dam battle.

[sacred idol]

Lucy with her hair down definitely looks better than Lucy with a ponytail.

Makes the eyes less distracting.

[mystic plaza]

But who knows, literally Legate Lacerta might be a decent leader, we'll have to wait and see.

Like Lacerta was smart enough to recognize in that moment that if the Legion read that note, or saw it, they would collapse completely. So him doing what he did in a split decision already puts him above par of the rest, at least to me.

[shrewd helm]

Only time will tell
We'll see what happens at the massacre of new Vegas

[pulsar lintel]

Yeah I mean what I’m trying to get at here is that if Lanius dies Caesar would just select the next Legate or Centurion who would best lead a war effort and leave it at that. If Lanius didn’t exist I truly doubt he would have given up on replacing Joshua. We don’t see anyone in NV who could replace Lanius because his other war generals are elsewhere, outside of Aurelius of Phoenix who is a Centurion.

I would honestly consider Lucius a decent runner up for a heir or warlord too though I think other Legates would still more likely take the role

Definitely more likely than Vulpes the Foxboy anyways

[icy pagoda]

Vulpes makes quite a bit of sense in reality

[pulsar lintel]

Not really tbh. Vulpes is intelligent but he isn’t that widely respected outside of Caesar and the Frumentarii

I think Lanius’ opinions on the Frumentarii would be shared by much of the Legion

[icy pagoda]

Theoretically it doesn;t matter what Lanius thinks, it matters what Caeser thinks. In a version of the setting where he names a successor, I think he'd prioritize intelligence above all else. Brute strength had never been the way of the Legion, careful planning, attacking supply lines, unfair advantages, spying, etc was the way they were able to be successful. Unfortunately we got "nah, I'm a big baby"

Then again, I'm willing to forgive a lot of whatever they decide to do with the late Caeser because he literally had the brain fuckies, him doing something that would make no sense does in fact make sense

[pulsar lintel]

Even if Caesar formally named him heir I would still say Vulpes lack of respect amongst the Legionary’s is still a big issue that needs rectifying. Vulpes is smart when it comes to deceit and sabotage but he isn’t a proven leader of men or war general.

The Legates and Centurions under him would be unruly and he’d need to prove himself quickly to cement his rule

Which we have no idea if he’d be able to

I’d say likely not tbh. He’s not a symbol of strength nor has Caesar’s charisma and proven war acumen.

[icy pagoda]

Yea but a ton of the legion is afraid of him taking over AND he's known to not be a good tactician almost at all. I think the issue is that Lanius and Vulpes are just brawn and brain. As long as only one of them is in control, they do not have what it takes to make the legion successful (which seems well established)

[pulsar lintel]

Sure. I think Caesar just doesn’t care much about Legion line of succession in regards to their future viability, which is why he allows the title of Caesar to fall to the war general under him and leaves it at that. It’s not something he’s concerned about.

[digital kestrel]

people saying the ranger sniper is courier 6

[pulsar lintel]

In regards to Lanius I’d say he’s a good tactician as well, just a poor strategist

[mystic plaza]

[digital kestrel]

mfs will never play new vegas and say the ranger in the intro is courier 6

And then hate fallout 4

i wonder if it is the same ranger from the intro or just a callback

[icy pagoda]

can't be the one from the intro, guy in the show has an orange duster and the one in the game has a brown one

[dense wharf]

people default to the NCR Ranger outfit when thinking of NV courier

[icy pagoda]

I think people who have not played NV do that, yes

[dense wharf]

people who have played NV still do that

[digital kestrel]

i mean, i do too but obviously i dont think its his "Canon outfit"

why do all the rangers have the shoulder armor?

[random bramble]

Cause it looks much better irl

[icy pagoda]

I think the average new vegas enjoyer views this as the courier 6 outfit

[random bramble]

The duster without shoulder pads doesn’t look that good as a costume

[dense wharf]

no my canon courier is them being completely naked and uses a machete

[digital kestrel]

i think it looks good

and this is made with just one persons budget

[dense wharf]

that has the shoulder pads tho

[pulsar lintel]

NCR ranger armor looks awkward in live action to me I’m ngl

Especially whenever it’s moving

[icy pagoda]

It does look really good, but it's also a still image with no wind flapping those cloth bits around without the helmet

[abstract scarab]

Because it's made to look like the games instead of being functional

[dense wharf]

thats just a thing with a lot of game outfit designs, you put them on someone irl and suddenly all the flaws are made visible

[abstract scarab]

Functionally the chest piece is stupid and interferes with the movements of your arms. There's a reason why real world armor plates have the corners cut out and it only covers your vital organs.

[digital kestrel]

no these are the shoulder pads

[pulsar lintel]

I think they did T-45 and T-60 quite well. Worst aspect of the T-60 is that it’s a little floaty perhaps.

[abstract scarab]

Aesthetically the drip is fresh as fuck tho

[astral cipher]

Maybe it is a bit too out of our technological league but seems functional to me
Really the only downside is that you would get hot inside one fast
It would be a sweaty affair

[pulsar lintel]

We should’ve seen some new and improved ranger patrol armor instead of just vet gear

[dense wharf]

isnt that from fo76

[digital kestrel]

the picture i took is from 76

[dense wharf]

yeah but arent we talking about FNV ranger armor

[astral cipher]

Either way I'm really happy with how it turned out
It was definitely an upgrade from the one in S1 which got the helmet and the gas mask as seperate things

[digital kestrel]

its in new vegas too

[digital kestrel]

it got the helmet weird because they were scavengers wearing broken armor

but also the gas mask just looks better this season

[astral cipher]

Valid but still
They could have botched it and just rolled with the armors we saw from Moldaver's militia

They could have done even worse and do something too tacticool
Ew

[pulsar lintel]

Moldaver’s militia looked like they came out of a NV tacticool mod

[digital kestrel]

.....

[dense wharf]

season 1 had a lower budget tbf

[pulsar lintel]

Horrible

[digital kestrel]

overdesigned yeah

[dense wharf]

did the riot gear always look so cluttered

genuinely dont remember it looking like that

[digital kestrel]

it did

[digital kestrel]

theres 3 tiers of it

[astral cipher]

S1 I also feel like it wasn't as connected to lore as this season
This season really started to take into account the two main post-War nations of the West I like that :]

[pulsar lintel]

LR riot gear is not good and I will never accept it as a replacement for NCR ranger armor

[dense wharf]

ncr ranger armor rocking the tactical jeans

[digital kestrel]

it's not replacing it its just another thing

[astral cipher]

Yeah kinda
Tv show was a good middle of the road between that and no-shoulder veteran armor
Although the latter still exists, since it literally seems it just the former without the pads lol

[pulsar lintel]

I’m aware, many fans like to treat it as a replacement functionally though. See how many people tell you to just get riot gear if you want NCR armor lol

[digital kestrel]

they tell you that because it doesnt have the disguise

[fluid sigil]

These gears would look better without duster

Someone edit out that leather long coat and see my vision

[digital kestrel]

i just wish the ncr ranger helmet had the tube like in art (it doesnt have it ingame either)

[astral cipher]

Can't you just go into commands and just change it to not be faction-assigned clothing

[pulsar lintel]

Yes, there should be a non-faction armor variant in the game instead of a piece of riot gear that changes the entire color pallet imo

[digital kestrel]

if you have to go into commands to do something it shouldn't be the standard thing

[wispy pulsar]

o em gorsh they did da fwickin video game thing

[astral cipher]

Good point

[digital kestrel]

shooting in slowmo is always cool

[astral cipher]

THE BEAR STILL HAS CLAWS HOORAH

[digital kestrel]

The second head of the bear is for the people

[dense wharf]

i thought it was for eating

[wispy pulsar]

one is eating one is pooping

[heady jasper]

Love the way max uses the rockets

[compact bramble]

Enclave High Command is still out there somewhere

[pulsar lintel]

They’re in a secret mega vault under the Atlantic Ocean

Enclave Atlantis

[trail cove]

Thoughts on this version?

[hasty oxide]

Everyone loves bringing up the Yes-man ending

but everyone forgets if that were true WHERE IS YES-MAN

[pulsar lintel]

Gone. Reduced to atoms.

[hasty oxide]

The only REAL answer from what i can surmise right..

House ending, Courier leaves for BIG MT, Enclave doesnt like New Vegas. Sabotages his reactor then sends in the deathclaws from Quarry

[random bramble]

It’s a 15 year gap

Literally so much shit could happen

[hasty oxide]

And the lizards mustve been around for what? a year. and it makes sense hes in Big MT cus of MT's credits

[obtuse niche]

All of the legion NCR war up to NV was about a quarter of that timeline

There's no indication of where the courier is if anywhere at all

[pulsar lintel]

Anyways there had to be another attack going on simultaneously to the deathclaws being directed to the strip right, I can’t feasibly see them taking it otherwise.

[random bramble]

Like people keep acting like c6 left 5 minutes ago

[obtuse niche]

The courier is presumably delivering mail in Montana

[random bramble]

In game deathclaws could do it easy, in show deathclaws are bitches

[hasty oxide]

Either way, i want the series to cut down the storylines and give more time or even an entire episode just for world building

[pulsar lintel]

Deathclaws steamrolling MK2 securitrons and the Families, seems legit

[obtuse niche]

That one deathclaw that ate the gauss rifle shots was a tank

[random bramble]

It was a flesh wound, he didn’t hit anything vital

[obtuse niche]

All the other ones just deflated like balloons whenever a bullet hit them

[trail cove]

If Coop wasn't shitting his pants, he would easily taken it down with a headshot

[obtuse niche]

There aren't many non vital parts of the neck

[hasty oxide]

tbf he had trauma from pre-war

[pulsar lintel]

Those deathclaws probably should have fucked up that power armor way sooner with their swipes tbh

[trail cove]

All of the Gauss shots clearly go through the deathclaw. Any higher, and the thing's head would have exploded

[hasty oxide]

I mean u would be too if yer stuck in a broken PA in the middle of nowhere

[pulsar lintel]

Yao Guai were tearing up that metal

[obtuse niche]

That's because Titus is just a bitch

[pulsar lintel]

PTSD nerfed Coops perception

[random star]

Titus was a bitch

[obtuse niche]

Transfers to the armor, weakens it

[pulsar lintel]

Titus being a bitch doesn’t negate his power armors durability

[pulsar lintel]

Oh nevermind

[random star]

It does it gets a -50 health reduction

[obtuse niche]

There's also a chance that the T-60 is just actually worse durability wise I guess

[random bramble]

Brother securitrons really aren’t that tough, base mk2 has 175 health and the Hoover dam versions have 400. Basic bitch deathclaws have 500

[trail cove]

The NCR must have diverted some black budget shit into this single piece of armor for it to have rocket launchers on its arms and back, a jetpack, and being able to tank deathclaw swipes

[pulsar lintel]

Gameplay stat scaling

[obtuse niche]

Legate lanius would be eating shit against one of them

[random bramble]

How are you scaling them the

[trail cove]

MK2 Securitrons still carry enough firepower to make a squad of paladins look like little bitches

[random bramble]

Nobody in game says they can no diff deathclaws

[obtuse niche]

The tunnelers lowkey would say that

[pulsar lintel]

There’s no definite way to do so but House’s claim kinda rests on them being super formidable with the upgrade. Especially when supplemented by the Families a deathclaw takeover just sounds hilarious.

[random bramble]

Deathclaws make quick work of power armor unless it’s the show

[random star]

Show is goated for ignoring the whole tunneler plot

[random bramble]

They are formidable but there were like 20 deathclaw that we saw on screen

[trail cove]

That's why I preferred the theory of the Deathclaws breaking out of the Thorn, growing in the sewers, and breaking out into the Strip out of the sewer network

[obtuse niche]

Maximus should keep his spear and shield for the next time he has to fight a deathclaw

I wanna see that go down

[random bramble]

Deathclaws can tail whip trees over, how long do you think it would take one of those one wheel bastards to get back up

[obtuse niche]

They'd do a complete 360 degree flip

And land upright

[pulsar lintel]

There would be significantly more securitrons than deathclaws regardless, ignoring the fuckton of people with guns that would also be fighting the deathclaws. MK2 securitrons can spam lasers and grenade rounds I think they’d be fine unless they were distracted by something else.

[abstract scarab]

Technology doesn't fix the fundamental problem of the shape

[odd saddle]

People would prolly run

[random bramble]

The selfish mobsters are gonna stand around and fight giant lizards? They are all cowards

[obtuse niche]

Yeah if a single shot to the head can kill a deathclaw according to the show the securitrons should've been able to decimate them

[pulsar lintel]

When it’s their business and livelihood at stake probably yeah

[odd saddle]

It was a 50 cal to be fair

[obtuse niche]

Nah Thaddeus did it too

[odd saddle]

Didn’t kill him tho

[random bramble]

I don’t think he killed it

[obtuse niche]

Didn't it? I thought that was a different deathclaw

[pulsar lintel]

He didn’t but it did damage. Went right through its nose.

[odd saddle]

No it didn’t kill the death claw

[random bramble]

It’s still so funny how bad the choreography is for the death claws

[obtuse niche]

In any case the grenades the securitrons run share more in common with 50 cal than smaller rounds

[odd saddle]

I thought I was the only one who thought this

[random bramble]

They stand still 3 feet away from each other and just punch back and fourth

[odd saddle]

Yea it didn’t rlly make any sense

[random bramble]

No momentum, no speed, just dream like punches

[pulsar lintel]

MK2 securitrons in the show just spam 9mm rounds for some reason though so idk

[trail cove]

Yeah they nerfed the Deathclaws after episode four

[random bramble]

Even then they didn’t even run that fast or anything

[odd saddle]

If it spammed the laser of missiles it would’ve taken down the building with it

[obtuse niche]

That's fine

[pulsar lintel]

Spamming lasers would take down the building???

[odd saddle]

I was a lil disappointed by it but it’s wtv

[obtuse niche]

I mean it isn't but I don't think it would account for that unless they toggled it to

[odd saddle]

Yea that building is old as fuck and laser round are probably a hell of a lot stronger then 9mm

[trail cove]

Mf is thinking of the lasguns from Dune or something

[pulsar lintel]

I don’t think some small holes in one direction would be enough to take down the entire building

It’s not like lasers are explosive

[odd saddle]

They can literally disintegrate people

[pulsar lintel]

Probably just a weird interaction with flesh or just gameplay concessions, lasers don’t really work like that in regard to destroying infrastructure.

The securitron also pops out a grenade round so like

Lol

[icy pagoda]

best not to think on it too much, the short answer is there are no lore implications of how easy it was for maximus to fight the deathclaws, it was just a cool action scene

[pulsar lintel]

Doesn’t Maximus use that laser pistol against Quintus in the same season and doesn’t destroy anything significant in the room

Yeah it just leaves small holes lol

https://youtu.be/rGLGWeOtO3E?si=qcl_ZFQN-3iNpcTm

How mf’s are acting like a laser round would do the place

[icy pagoda]

lasers in fallout are inconsistent, sometimes they just burn a hole in ya, sometimes they disintegrate your entire being

[random bramble]

The disintegration is on criticals

So you just get really lucky and the atoms perfectly bump into each other to destabilize the whole object

Or some other mumbo jumbo

[pulsar lintel]

If you shoot at the ground and get lucky enough the entire planet fucking explodes

[random bramble]

That is the obvious assumption to make lol

[glacial yew]

if only deathclaws were that easy to kill in fnv

[pulsar lintel]

If the show wanted to be accurate to NV they’d give Maximus a BB gun and have him crit their legs

[copper ginkgo]

Although that would never happen for obvious reasons called the rule of todd

ENCLAVE GONNA DO what The NCR could never

[queen swift]

I wonder if you knew about this..

[mystic plaza]

I stand by my original statement in the fact the enclave had experience with Deathclaws, and knowledge on them - they definitely lured them into the Strip, which again isn't hard to do if you move their eggs.

[icy pagoda]

That would indeed track

[mystic plaza]

It's super easy if a few Enclave soldiers/agents managed to steal the eggs, then guide them to the strip, and leave them there.

[copper ginkgo]

Excuse me

[copper ginkgo]

Good catch

[harsh bolt]

🦅 🇺🇸

[copper ginkgo]

A True American Patriot

[harsh bolt]

Let's reclaim America

[copper ginkgo]

We will amass a giant unstoppable army full of the impurities of our America then we will kill every last one of them , and only the true human american patriots and citizens of the united states of america we'll be able to live an hour , perfect and states , with each of our citizens being implanted with a microchip , perfect american citizen that will be a part of the perfect and pure AMERICA

GOD BLESS THE ENCLAVE

[queen swift]

As an American idc

[copper ginkgo]

You are not a real United States citizen.If you have that opinion , communist hush

[harsh bolt]

nah bro wth, why implanting microship on citizens we must purify them

[queen swift]

The Enclave can go fuck off

Also I “hate” communism

[copper ginkgo]

That is the only way to purify them

[harsh bolt]

FEV in the air bro

[warped ocean]

It’s been like 15 years he might have changed his fashion tastes

[copper ginkgo]

Yeah but it means we can use those impurities to our benefit to topple, those stupid little factions, and then they will be obedient and submissive to the FEV virus

But also our real american citizens will also have chips , so that they are the most perfect and obedient american citizens and so that war can never happen again

[queen swift]

Who the fuck put the male pregnancy emoji there

[warped ocean]

FEV sniffer here😔

[copper ginkgo]

You will be gone when we release f e v

[icy pagoda]

Great point

[warped ocean]

Mr krabs

[queen swift]

No

[warped ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-frank-horrigan-gif-13237660488323759286

[copper ginkgo]

@harsh bolt can't you see the vision

[harsh bolt]

I see the vision

[queen swift]

It’s too American in here, I can only handle a little at a time

[warped ocean]

Im Canadian

[harsh bolt]

Im not an American

[copper ginkgo]

Yes. The only people that matter a united states citizens of our america mutants and ghouls aren't humans?Therefore, they have no citizenship and aren't even people.They are horribly disfigured anomalies , and they need to be taken out and they will , and all of these factions causing war over resources , pathetic

[random bramble]

They can just mind control them

[copper ginkgo]

The enclave is the only right faction

[queen swift]

My faction is the best one

[copper ginkgo]

Mister house one singular person who we tricked please

[queen swift]

Get out while you still can

[harsh bolt]

[warped ocean]

Didn’t you run out of double A batteries for multiple years and shut down

[copper ginkgo]

The enclave is superior oue plans go beyond mister house's little autocracy

[queen swift]

Shh

[warped ocean]

The lithium mines are empty bro
Your time is up

[harsh bolt]

Mmm Enclave is also an autocracy

[mystic plaza]

Yeah, i just more so mean - either way, I was pretty sold on the Enclave being the main ones capable of doing it. Them being mindcontrolled explains a bit more as to why they didn't go past the Freeside walls, or try to break down the barricade.

[copper ginkgo]

How dare you say those words those are the words of a traitorous communist

[mystic plaza]

Also explains how Hank slipped in and out, then. They recognized him as an ally rather than a foe.

[warped ocean]

Lobotomy Hank💔

[queen swift]

Does he know?💔

[copper ginkgo]

The enclave is not simply a autocracy

[warped ocean]

America/enclave are 102% democratic with a 2% margin of error

[harsh bolt]

Im not communist but its a reality the Enclave is an autocracy

[sacred idol]

Can we stop roleplaying here?

[icy pagoda]

100% agree, the inability to move on from the bit is insanely lame

[harsh bolt]

[warped ocean]

Im just spitting facts
No role play

[abstract scarab]

Thaddeus shot it in the eye and Max cut the head off

[copper ginkgo]

Somebody get him out

[copper ginkgo]

More like A zero point five percent

[warped ocean]

Wonder is Maximus will join the NCR
And leave behind the bumass brotherhood

[harsh bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/enclave-watching-fallout-america-gif-9146242281505060525

[copper ginkgo]

He should join the enclave

[abstract scarab]

A recurring problem with using practical puppets to film. They can only go as fast as the puppeteer can swing without obviously exposing the wobbly plastic and rubber model

[civic crypt]

i mean he's already left the brotherhood

[harsh bolt]

what are you saying

[patent dagger]

The thunderbirds problem

[copper ginkgo]

I am the Enclave

[patent dagger]

No your mr krabs

[copper ginkgo]

What I SAID

[warped ocean]

The deathclaws are puppets?

[civic crypt]

yes, primarly practical with CGI touchups

[shadow saddle]

Where is the smiley robot? 🙁

[queen swift]

Enclave sucks 100%

[warped ocean]

Dead

[copper ginkgo]

Excuse me

[civic crypt]

the show does more practical than CGI

[abstract scarab]

Yes, big ones. They get replaced by CGI but they're still puppets under earth. Fruit fliming

[copper ginkgo]

Please get out at least we don't have no one inside of a chamber that looks like a shriveled up raisin

[civic crypt]

they don't get replaced by CGI, they get touched up

[shadow saddle]

Bro, he's the only character you can't kill

[civic crypt]

it's a combo

[harsh bolt]

The deathclaws are puppets of the Enclave

[warped ocean]

V tuber shriveled up raisin over here😔

[copper ginkgo]

But I must inquire, how does it feel to not only be outclassed by the enclave but to have your best piece of technology perfected by one of our enclave personnel and it being used against you

[civic crypt]

I appreciate the shows focus on practical over CGI

[abstract scarab]

They are functionally replaced with a digi double. The puppets are for tracking and lighting but they have a CGI skin draped over it

[copper ginkgo]

Indeed

[warped ocean]

X-02 appearance in S3🙀

[icy pagoda]

They did some practical effects for close ups and then cgi for most of the rest of it

[civic crypt]

I thought it was mixed

[copper ginkgo]

Nothing wrong with CGI

[abstract scarab]

It's very common and easy to do nowadays

[abstract scarab]

It is mixed in the sense that they use a real puppet for filming rather than pretend punch and add it in post. But the actual puppet is just a reference for the final model

[warped ocean]

Figured

[harsh bolt]

Hellfire would be better 🔥

[civic crypt]

no i know, I just misunderstood the situation

[warped ocean]

Best enclave power armour?

[abstract scarab]

It allows the actors to physically interact with the object and get some detail shots in the close ups

[civic crypt]

the behind the scenes photos confused me

[copper ginkgo]

Are you ready to see me in season three initiate phase two of the enclave

[civic crypt]

yea, i know the practice lol. Behind the scenes just sort of messed with me

[copper ginkgo]

Yes

[abstract scarab]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/3/36/Atx_skin_powerarmor_model_equalizer_c1.png/revision/latest?cb=20250130014528

[harsh bolt]

You weren't even the president anymore in 2077.

[copper ginkgo]

Excuse me

[sacred idol]

Personally, Hellfire.

But only when I loot it off dead soldier corpses.

[civic crypt]

what is happening here jeez

[sacred idol]

Idk

[warped ocean]

Agartha enclave edit when

[harsh bolt]

The pre-war scenes take place before or during 2069.

[random bramble]

That makes zero sense

[warped ocean]

Extra term

[icy pagoda]

a bunch of children thinking it's funny to do the same bit for days on end

[shadow saddle]

Now that I think about it, I feel like caesar being dead was inevitable considering he was already old 15 years ago, even IF you remove his tumor

[copper ginkgo]

I'm going to return in season 3 watch what I tell you

[random star]

We see the nukes dropping

[random bramble]

That’s just not true

[copper ginkgo]

How do you know this

[random bramble]

They lie

[harsh bolt]

House say that the bomb would drop in 2069 so the pre war scenes took place before or during 2069.

[random star]

The world got bombed in 2077

[warped ocean]

He was for sure gonna die in between the game and show
Or he’d be just really old

[copper ginkgo]

Bro wat

[random bramble]

Janey was born in 2065 she is way older then 4

[opaque lichen]

I just noticed that the enclave has train carts

[civic crypt]

ah, that's annoying

[warped ocean]

Bro✌️ 😭

[random bramble]

None of the timeline makes sense with these numbers what are you on about

[copper ginkgo]

@harsh bolt i'm beginning to think you're a fake communist , because what the hell are you talking about

[harsh bolt]

wait I will go check the time on episode 7

[copper ginkgo]

Indeed

[queen swift]

STOP

[warped ocean]

Enclave express when
Please Bethesda I need post war trains that look good
Please my trains are kinda station less

[abstract scarab]

Bait used to be believable

[warped ocean]

Fart

[civic crypt]

i think it's because that train is part of the location and can't be moved

[random saddle]

Caesar dood. Wat nou?

[civic crypt]

which is funny

[warped ocean]

The reign of Kevin

[civic crypt]

you can see the train in this normal photo of the location lol

[icy pagoda]

correct, but what can we do, school must have gotten out or something lol

[queen swift]

Only been paying attention ONCE

[copper ginkgo]

The Legion gets a W

[sacred idol]

Is that one person supposed to be there? Looks like one of the crew lol

[civic crypt]

lol

[warped ocean]

Aaaand it’s completely locked in
Another catwalk ahead😔 💔

[warped ocean]

New enclave scientist hire

[civic crypt]

this is from the locations website, it's a real place you can vist in New York

[sacred idol]

Oh, I know haha

[civic crypt]

it's the Brooklyn Army Terminal

[mystic plaza]

Yeah it was filmed at the IRL location, but i pointed it out before - that train system was there since S1, it's def not new

[civic crypt]

no i know, I'm saying the train is there because it doesn't seem to be able to be moved from the actual location

[harsh bolt]

episode 5 at 33:32

[warped ocean]

We know 120% that the world ended in 2077

[harsh bolt]

I was wrong House say that the bomb would drop in 2065 not 2069, so the pre war scenes took place before or during 2065.

[shadow saddle]

Wait so why was House off again?

[harsh bolt]

I know but Im not talking about that

[warped ocean]

People shy

[random bramble]

He said Janey was born in 2065

[copper ginkgo]

It's\nLiterally , the last u s president get out

[random bramble]

He never said when he predicted the end of the world

Janeys birthday was the day it was a 100% certainty that the world would end

[harsh bolt]

he is talking about the bomb dropping on Janey anniversary not her date of born

[random bramble]

Nah you just don’t understand them correctly

[civic crypt]

he wasn't talking about either of these

Janey's Birthday was the day he discovered WHEN the bombs were gonna drop

[random bramble]

That is literally what I said

[queen swift]

House said that the 2069 date had been delayed

[civic crypt]

i misunderstood

[random bramble]

He never even says 2069 in the show

[queen swift]

Yeah, just that the date has been delayed

[civic crypt]

the bombs drop on October 23rd 2077, that doesn't change

[harsh bolt]

Im on the episode right now dont lie to me

[random bramble]

I don’t know how to tell you this but you are just bad at English, it’s very obvious

[civic crypt]

i mean I also misunderstood what House was saying originally

[mystic plaza]

Are people still confused about what House meant when he mentioned Janey's birthday? lol

[random bramble]

Yeah I don’t get it

[mystic plaza]

The pre-war scenes btw are in 2076-2077 im pretty sure that's confirmed.

[harsh bolt]

because im not english and my episode is in french and I verified on the english traduction with the subtitle it say thee same thing, He's talking about the bomb that falls on Janey's birthday, not her date of birth.

[random bramble]

Are you trying to explain the English meaning to a native English speaker?

[mystic plaza]

Brother how old do you think Janey is???? House gives Janey's date of birth, the bombs don't fall on that day. Lol

[civic crypt]

he's not, it's a bit confusing but he's saying he learned the date that the bombs dropped on Janey's birthday

[random bramble]

You are saying Janey was almost 20 years old in s1 ep 1?

[harsh bolt]

I know that

[opaque lichen]

why are we even discussing this

[mystic plaza]

Idk it's crazy lol

[civic crypt]

we also see the bombs drop and it's not Janey's birthday, Cooper is working at a birthday party

[random bramble]

This guy legit isn’t thinking

[mystic plaza]

Yes, what do you think House meant when he said the data coalesced and gave him Janey's birthday. That the bombs were going to drop on that day?

[queen swift]

It makes more sense for it to not be Janey’s bday as the series shows more flashbacks

[civic crypt]

i did originally but I know later

[random bramble]

The data coalesced on her birthday, it didn’t coalesce her birthday

The calculations went “ding” and printed the data on her birthday because her birth led to certain apocalypse

[mystic plaza]

Okay so im trying to understand what are you saying. House talks about variables and data, when COOP becomes a variable, the date changes - Coop is an anomaly, he doesn't know Coop's role in the end of the world. The assumption is that once Coop's involved is solidified, the data settles to 2077 on October.

[harsh bolt]

I know the bombs didn't fall that day, but if he says the bombs will fall on Janey's birthday, so in 2065, then the pre-war scene takes place before or during 2065; it's just logical, Im not saying the bombs will drop on 2065 !!!

[random bramble]

He never said they would fall on 2065

[mystic plaza]

He's not saying the bombs will fall on Janey's birthday.

[civic crypt]

all i'm saying is i know what House was talking about lol

[random bramble]

You aren’t understanding his English correctly

[mystic plaza]

Yeah, i got you confused with the other guy, my bad. lol

[civic crypt]

all good lol

[random bramble]

If the flashbacks are before 2065 Janey would be 22 in the bomb dropping scene

[harsh bolt]

it says that im on the episode right now

[opaque lichen]

i’m losing braincells

[civic crypt]

i was also trying to back this guy up on the misunderstanding english front but that's not working

[mystic plaza]

No it does not. I'm looking at it now, you're misunderstanding what he's saying.

[random bramble]

Oh my lord you clearly don’t understand English well enough

[civic crypt]

wait, I told you that's not what he meant and you said you knew that. So which is it?

[random bramble]

We literally see Janey like 2 days before the house scene and she is almost the exact same age as the day the bombs drop

Did she not age over 12 years? Your theory makes zero sense beyond just ignoring how English works

[harsh bolt]

you just dont understand what im writting

[random bramble]

No you don’t understand

[opaque lichen]

🔄

[harsh bolt]

im not on the english version

[random bramble]

Then the translation is wrong

Because that isn’t what he says in English

[mystic plaza]

Okay, you are 100% not understanding English. He says the data on a spring morning, told him the world would end. He says the date the data coalesced. He does not say, the end of the world is on this specific day. Even if it was, that date already passed.

[mystic plaza]

Yes, that does not mean it's the end of the world. He's say the data coalesced and gave him a date, that date being Janey's birthday. It does not mean it's the end of the world.

[civic crypt]

yea, "the day the data coalesced" means the day he found out the day the world would end

[harsh bolt]

ok but im not even talking about the date of the end of the world

[mystic plaza]

The DATE the DATA COALESCED does NOT MEAN it's the end of the world. It means it's the day he found out.

[civic crypt]

i swear none of us know what the other is talking about lol

[mystic plaza]

You literally said, "The bombs will fall on Janey's birthday" that's not what he says.

[harsh bolt]

im just saying that Janey birthday is mentionned to be in 2065 so the pre wars scene might be before 2065

[mystic plaza]

They're literally not, we see her as a child in season 1, the day the bombs drop.

She was born in 2065.

I'm pretty sure the pre-war scenes are confirmed to be 2076-2077.

[harsh bolt]

birthday is an anniversary right ?

[mystic plaza]

Yes, but House is talking about the day she was born. Again, how old do you think Janey is?

[harsh bolt]

idk under 15

[mystic plaza]

She's 12.

[harsh bolt]

ok ?

[mystic plaza]

So if the bombs dropped on 2077 subtract 12 from 2077. What does that give you. lol

The answer is 2065. So wouldn't she then be an infant in those scenes?

[harsh bolt]

bro it didn't make sense

[mystic plaza]

It makes perfect sense, idk why you're in denial about it. lol

[harsh bolt]

why he say birthday and not birth day

[mystic plaza]

Cause you're hung up on a word, everyone else understood it. lol

[queen swift]

Tbh it’s weird he doesn’t just say birth date

[tame owl]

Birthday refers to the day of the year.

Not the year.

If you were talking about when they were born, you'd say that.

[queen swift]

As a native English speaker, I only hear the word “birthday” used to non newborns/ unborns and “birth date” used on those two

[harsh bolt]

It's just a really strange scene, it's confusing.

[queen swift]

Date refers to a full month/day/year thingy
We don’t usually use a full date for birthdays. Might stir up confusion there.

[mystic plaza]

The way the scenes are structured, it makes sense. If Janey wasn't born, Barb would be pregnant. If Janey was younger, she'd be an infant. She's neither. The logical conclusion is that given her age, the time period of the pre-war scenes are probably around 2076-2077

[silver sail]

why is this vial of cold fusion advertised as the only one lmao

cold fusion was already incorporated into GECKS

[harsh bolt]

whaaaatt ?

[mystic plaza]

probably the first ones made after the GECKs.

[silver sail]

it seems like the showrunners have completely forgotten

[harsh bolt]

really ?

[mystic plaza]

also the GECK lore in general, is a mess tbf.

[random bramble]

As an American birthday is the day you were born and the anniversary of that day

[mystic plaza]

The GECKs are literal narrative macguffins that are whatever the writers want them to be. In FO1-FO2, they're like hyper-futuristic technology that basically is guides to civilization's rebirth. And in FO3 it's literally a fucking terraformer.

[random bramble]

Also it could just be un-stable cold fusion

Cold fusion is already made up mumbo jumbo

[mystic plaza]

It's unstable cause it only lasts up to 1k years. Where this cold fusion is limitless, and infinite.

[digital kestrel]

i actually never knew about this

[harsh bolt]

I didn't know that

[silver sail]

This is from the fallout 1 game manual

[digital kestrel]

yeah the vault dwellers survival guide

[mystic plaza]

Yes, but it's a narrative macguffin. So I wouldn't treat it as gospel, as the next time a GECK is introduced, it's usage is gonna change.

[dawn iris]

how Steph has signal for Enclave Pip-Boy all way down in the Vault ?

to send the message to the Enclave I mean

[mystic plaza]

They're always listening, apparently, who knows. Maybe Hank tuned it to something outside, idk

[digital kestrel]

It's still a valid criticism and plot contradiction

[random bramble]

Signal repeaters

[mystic plaza]

That can be argued, but GECKs aren't advertised to last forever. I'm pretty sure the limit is 1k years, so it's probably more unstable cold fusion.

[random bramble]

They definitely have an antenna somewhere on the surface

In the games you listen to the radio In vaults all the time

[dawn iris]

where are those signal repeaters

[random bramble]

In the vault

[floral mist]

That date conversation was wild lmao

[dawn iris]

to the outsside ???

[mystic plaza]

Brother...

[harsh bolt]

its just a lot of confusion

[random bramble]

Yeah, vaults send out distress signals in the games all the time

[dawn iris]

why Fallout tv show has so much convenient things happening all over the places

[obtuse niche]

The worst part about this ad is that there's absolutely no reason for it to exist

[floral mist]

tbh that is mostly...all of fallout lol

[random bramble]

There are like 4 instances of people sending out radio signals in the games

[obtuse niche]

Only one in that entire 120 page guide book

[mystic plaza]

Literally Fallout, all the time everywhere?

[queen swift]

There should be more gambling in this episode

[dawn iris]

so everyone in Fallout TV show has maximized Luck stat

[obtuse niche]

Is Thaddeus gonna become the wealthiest centaur to ever live

[mystic plaza]

As does everyone in the games, yeah hence Random encounters. You just happen to be there, when the thing happens - for convenience sake????????????

[harsh bolt]

What actions do you think the Enclave will do in season 3 ?

[digital kestrel]

probably poop

[obtuse niche]

Very little if they can help it

Whatever phase 2 is supposed to be in the tri vaults and maybe trying to get the ghoul

[harsh bolt]

maybe they will spread FEV in the tri vaults

[queen swift]

💔

[violet elm]

You think Maximus is gonna wear the Mr House Pipboy?

[digital kestrel]

everyone works for him eventually

[obtuse niche]

The house very much lost in this episode

[mystic plaza]

It's possible, lol

[dawn iris]

Enclave launches full-scale invasion against the NCR and Legion and BoS

[digital kestrel]

i hope the NCR power armor isnt ditched there

[queen swift]

House looks like he’s thinking about stuff

[violet elm]

I wanna see Maximus in a pip-boy my god I can already envision Lucy and Maximus going on a rampage both wearing pipboys

[digital kestrel]

he didnt wanna ruin the moment

[obtuse niche]

"Enclave" and "full scale invasion" should not go together

[digital kestrel]

cmon anderdingus you're ruining the moment

[dawn iris]

CONVENIENCE - everything is possible

[queen swift]

He lost to the bisexual Cowboy💔💔

[obtuse niche]

Not even a matter of convenience it would just be a universally bad idea to have the enclave be a visible threat

[mystic plaza]

Bro acting like Convenience doesn't happen in FO all the time, majority of the FO4 intro is convenience. Same with FNV. Are we pretending it's not convenient that you were shot in the same town WITH A PRACTICING SURGEON? Like wtf are we on about. lol

[trail cove]

Frank Horrigan cloning facility on Enclave moon base

[dawn iris]

ok ok ok ok ok ok

[obtuse niche]

Wonder if Coop will fuck with house any more

[silver sail]

The thing is in the games it’s made abundantly clear that one of the reasons the GECK is so powerful is that it’s powered by cold fusion

[queen swift]

I DID NOT read the “with”🥀

[trail cove]

Probably not unless he hops on a Vertibird and flies back to Vegas

[obtuse niche]

Maybe in 3 and 76 lol

In 2 (where that stupid advertisement originates from) it's not mentioned whatsoever

In any case I doubt they'd keep that plot point if they're making such a big deal out of it in the show

[harsh bolt]

If they do that they will win those factions are weak now

[dawn iris]

yeap

[digital kestrel]

istg if the bos uses liberty prime against the enclave again

[queen swift]

I NEED to draw House and Cooper it’s a urge

[dawn iris]

we also don't know how much big is the Enclave in the Rockies, maybe it has a lot of manpower

[obtuse niche]

They will lose because the [adjective] [noun] will blow up Colorado

[mystic plaza]

Right, but my point was to not treat a narrative macguffin that changes every game iteration, as something of truth. It's more reasonable to understand it's unstable cold fusion given GECKs are not infinite like this current cold fusion is. That's all.

[harsh bolt]

How do they will transport liberty prime to california

[digital kestrel]

how do they will

[obtuse niche]

Trebuchet

They will throw him from coast to coast

[harsh bolt]

We only saw a campus for scientist we dont know if its a base or a part of a Bigger base

[digital kestrel]

bro did not see the post-credits scene

[dawn iris]

seems like "smaller" communication station combined with scientific department

[harsh bolt]

They cant build a new, they dont have the technology and they are in civil war

[digital kestrel]

it sure seems like his plan to build it

[obtuse niche]

The Colorado base is definitely an active facility but we're still yet to see anybody other than scientists and low level grunts in the enclave context

[harsh bolt]

Yes

[mystic plaza]

Working train system, pre-war facility, multiple experients with FEV, and animals, I'd say they're pretty secured. If the train didn't travel further into the mountains I'd be more inclined to believe it's like just a random isolated base. But i think it's connected to more bases.

[trail cove]

They have the plot necessary

[dawn iris]

it seems like relatively smaller base connected to the Cheyenne Mountain Complex (Fallout version of it), the presumed Enclave HQ in the Rockies

[obtuse niche]

The grand canyon brotherhood should get liberty prime if he must be in the show

[trail cove]

I'm assuming they also still have contact with the Chicago base.

[mystic plaza]

Yeah that was my initial though. Especially because it's construction was completed since 2076.

[obtuse niche]

We're making a lot of assumptions about something we know nothing about besides it probably being in Colorado

[harsh bolt]

Bethesda need to make win the enclave only one time

[mystic plaza]

Yeah, or other bases. Probably Ohio, too.

[obtuse niche]

Nuh uh

[trail cove]

Can't wait to see peak in live action

[obtuse niche]

The enclave winning is usually very bad news for the continuity of the IP

[dawn iris]

Enclave presence from Rockies to the Midwest is certainly very high

[harsh bolt]

They have bases everywere they could do anything

[obtuse niche]

We still don't really know anything about the enclave beyond something in Chicago and something in probably Colorado

[dawn iris]

I think Enclave will show itself very quickly in the Rockies and Midwest openly, if its presence isn't open already

[harsh bolt]

Why ? It would be cool to see what the enclave do to the natives, and a political plot pre and post war

[trail cove]

We DO know that they still have hands on the vaults and the experiments are still ongoing

[obtuse niche]

Well their main objective every time they show up involves killing everything

[civic crypt]

Somebody better although Coop did just leave him in the vault

[obtuse niche]

Hank is almost certainly an outlier given how many vaults we see are in ruins

[trail cove]

Many Vaults were never even finished or were DOA.

[harsh bolt]

That why I said that having a political plot with like reformist and purist could be cool like on OWB hoi4

[obtuse niche]

Most of the vaults we see ingame are in ruins including the ones that worked as intended

[random bramble]

Most expiriments were never intended to be indefinite

They knew they would only last a few generations before killing themselves or leaving

[silver sail]

ngl there are tons of inconsistencies

[random bramble]

Doesn’t mean they failed

[obtuse niche]

That still doesn't really make sense for the fanatically authoritarian traditionalist faction built out of the pre war US

[civic crypt]

The reason this experiment lasted longer than others is cause it was directly a higher up vault tec project

[mystic plaza]

Also im super curious, if cold fusion isn't what powers a GECK, what do you think does???

[random bramble]

Yeah many excitement never even intended to last a single generation

[obtuse niche]

Perhaps not but regardless the enclave probably didn't have anyone involved in most of those vaults

[silver sail]

Cold fusion def powers a geck

They will probably say it’s some weak form of cold fusion

[obtuse niche]

Or just a battery

[harsh bolt]

We dont know the complete political situation in the pre war USA, but USA in pre war fallout is just 1950 anti communist USA but in 2000s

[queen swift]

I’m gonna talk about Coop/The Ghoul calling Robert House “Bob” again.

It’s interesting as he’s basically taunting House passive aggressively and House does not care in the slightest. What I find most interesting as House never lashes out either, knowing The Ghoul would be useful to him and that the last time he lashed out at him.. things went south.

I don’t know 💔🏳️‍🌈

[obtuse niche]

No it's way worse we know a great deal about it

[meager elm]

Canadians exist unfortunately

[mystic plaza]

Fair. I just don't see how it's inconsistent if one is unstable, and one is stable? It's kinda evident GECKs don't last forever, and are one time uses? Especially recently from FO3, FO76, etc etc. I'd argue that shows pretty unstable, it is miracle technology, narratively - like I said it's quite literally magic. I don't see the issue I suppose.

[harsh bolt]

Why ?

[trail cove]

GECKs are practically extinct at this point, I'm assuming if everyone is scrambling for one diode of cold fusion.

[mystic plaza]

It could be, I could also be wrong about it - I'm not entirely convinced. Miracle tech is always a slippery slope.

[queen swift]

Gay ass man analysis one piece of dialogue 💔💔💔🎰

[obtuse niche]

McCarthyism spiraled into complete authoritarianism and resulted in corporations and government cabals completely overpowering public interest in pretty well any situation

[obtuse niche]

They were kinda scrambling for it pre war too

[harsh bolt]

Its just overpowered capitalism that made corporation led the political scene and like yeah its just McCarthysm ++

[obtuse niche]

Overall given that fact we can say pretty well that reform isn't really an option for the enclave

[queen swift]

I might rewatch the bathroom scene (with Coop and House) as I felt I turned my brain off there, if anyone else analysed it, feel free to link it

[harsh bolt]

Everything can happen we dont know, but I would like to see it on the show

Btw how they see the rockies out of New Vegas ? Like the Rockies are in Colorado not in Nevada 💀

[obtuse niche]

Wilzig is the closest thing to reform the enclave gets

[harsh bolt]

Yeah

[obtuse niche]

I must've missed that bit, I assumed coop was already on his way for that scene with him near the mountains

[harsh bolt]

Maybe

[supple crest]

Coop was already on his way to find his wife and daughter. Perhaps what we saw was his location at the time

[harsh bolt]

Ok ok

[mystic plaza]

Coop already is on his way, yeah - the implication is that he traveled immediately.

[harsh bolt]

Fast travel 🤣

[obtuse niche]

Caesar's palace is going to be the Greatest thing ever built in Vegas

[civic crypt]

I mean there are mountains elsewhere, he could just be looking at mountains because he’s headed to Colorado lol

[digital kestrel]

It's already built

[obtuse niche]

They're gonna tear it down and rebuild it in Caesar's image

[civic crypt]

Apparently it’s not in this universe though

[digital kestrel]

maybe it was and it just got nuked

[civic crypt]

I can’t imagine House allowing it in his Vegas lol

[harsh bolt]

🔥🔥

[digital kestrel]

Why not?

[zenith dew]

House is a hero!

[pulsar lintel]

Caesar’s Palace will economically outcompete the NCR and drive them into extinction

[civic crypt]

Its named after another leader

[digital kestrel]

Caesar from the roman empire?

[civic crypt]

Also it’s absolutely bigger than the Lucky 38 which I can’t imagine he’d allow

[queen swift]

True…

[harsh bolt]

It will be Ceasars palace not Caesar Palace

[digital kestrel]

thats the sound of the men working on the chain gang

[trail cove]

"Kaisar"

[olive wadi]

I am actually interested in Kevinus Caesar can't wait to see his take on being the leader

[supple crest]

Its crazy how the statement actually lived up to "the house always wins". And in this cause him being alive at least is winning to a degree

But how is he even alive if his old body is supposedly dead

[olive wadi]

Kaizer is a German word for King which comes from the Latin word Caesar

[civic crypt]

He uploaded his mind

It’s his conscious

[olive wadi]

Also Lucy is very wrong they're pronouncing Caesar correctly

There is no soft C in Latin

[trail cove]

Coop was right about them not being a fan of the soft C

[queen swift]

He locked in

[digital kestrel]

yeah but i didnt think it was weird since characters can be wrong

[trail cove]

"The dark side of the House contains abilities some consider to be...unnatural."

[civic crypt]

I think you are over thinking a joke

[astral cipher]

I think that one guy who made theory about Yes Man's "more assertive personality" actually just being the necessary code to operate a fully AI House with only cold fusion was onto something

[pulsar lintel]

I mean I think the intent of the scene was to mock the Legion for being dumb and uneducated and not Lucy for being stupid lol. Idk if the writers realized it or not.

[olive wadi]

Well I'm pretty sure it was a joke given she was also wrong about prima noctis

[digital kestrel]

I DID THAT!!! 😄

[astral cipher]

Yoooo were you the guy on Reddit?

[civic crypt]

I mean the general accepted pronunciation of Caesar is the soft C

[trail cove]

Best explanation to be honest. Also makes the argument people make that "W-W-WELL MUH YES MAN WILL JUST DO ALL THE COURIER'S WORK" invalid.

[queen swift]

Guys what if the house always wins

[digital kestrel]

No but I did make that theory on my own when i saw the securitron on the floor

[astral cipher]

Ah
No but like fair assumption to come to on one's own tbh
That placement seemed too intentional

[olive wadi]

I mean you can use soft C for it but it is phonetically incorrect

[digital kestrel]

could also be a red herring but i dont know

[olive wadi]

Caesar isn't really a word in English

[civic crypt]

Cool good for you but I’ve never met somebody who pronounces it with a k sound. The English pronunciation is Ceaser with the soft c lol

[digital kestrel]

im thinking yes mans face is a placeholder and that benny didnt actually make it

[trail cove]

I'm doubting they'll explain it in any future season. Maybe FO5 if it takes place in California still.

[queen swift]

Guys what if House was right about Cooper’s family

That would suck

[pulsar lintel]

The Legion pronouncing it with a K isn’t incorrect which ruins the point of making fun of them for being uneducated. It’s why people are pointing it out.

[olive wadi]

Just because a lot of people think something doesn't make it correct

[digital kestrel]

Legion revived the latin language

[elder fiber]

Followers knew some

[olive wadi]

The scene was pretty much a joke about people thinking the legion are dumb but Lucy was wrong with everything

[pulsar lintel]

Based if true

[digital kestrel]

yeah but they dont speak it

[pulsar lintel]

Legion haters are uneducated troglodytes, very true!

[olive wadi]

Most legion haters are illogical

[elder fiber]

i don't think common legionaries speak either, they probably know some phrases and words

[olive wadi]

B-but they're larpers Caesar can't be smart 😡 😡 😡 😡

[astral cipher]

Yoooo you came out?
That's peak

[digital kestrel]

Caesar is definetly the only one who could lead the legion

[pulsar lintel]

A NCR fan is the irl equivalent of swampfolk

[olive wadi]

Kevinus

[queen swift]

HOW DID I MISS THIS GEM!?!?

(I definitely wrote the fan fic)

[elder fiber]

it is possible

[olive wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-hur-romans-gif-26896385

[digital kestrel]

hey im an ncr fan 😢

[trail cove]

Some Legion fans are also illogical. Exhibit A: #fallout_general message

[pulsar lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/errol-gif-14740893363623393630

[olive wadi]

Yes the Legion is evil but they're not idiots

[pulsar lintel]

This you?

[digital kestrel]

I know the NCR is corrupt but I still like them

[trail cove]

Pretty sure you're just comitting psyop and aren't actually an NCR fan

[queen swift]

Did Jazzy leave? They don’t have the vault dwellers role

[digital kestrel]

anyway the unity is best

[trail cove]

Also, that'd just be you if you're making fun of people who like a faction.

[pulsar lintel]

I just speak the truth, and only the truth.

[olive wadi]

New Cope Republic

[digital kestrel]

JOIN! DIE! JOIN! DIE!

[floral mist]

See-zer is the accepted EN pronunciation of the word though. Us irl knowing that isn't the original pronunciation doesn't make see-zer wrong. Words change over time and in different languages.
If EN is your native language, you also don't pronounce Beijing, Paris, Los Angeles, or Jesus correctly lol

[queen swift]

House is the only good choice

I’m coping

[trail cove]

By that logic, I can make fun of Legion fans for effectively being larpers.

[olive wadi]

Words and phonetics have meanings

[astral cipher]

There was a guy trying to excuse Legionaires raping
Because its' the Wasteland
Although people still don't consider it any better than modern day people because why tf would they

[digital kestrel]

I think its fun that Jesus is actually Joshua

[trail cove]

Omg bro.

[pulsar lintel]

They’re larping for the greater good friend

[olive wadi]

It's pretty obvious that part should be removed from the legion entirely it's hypocritical from legion goals

[digital kestrel]

The legion being smart is like their whole infiltration thing

[astral cipher]

Shitzar's Legion

Wooooo gottem

[elder fiber]

silly that it's named like this

[pulsar lintel]

The Roman aesthetic is an indication of a cultured society

[trail cove]

I don't see the problem

[floral mist]

well, hope you pronounce every single non-english name correctly and pronounce every foreign city properly, otherwise you're throwing away the meaning of words and phonetics 🙄 why pick and choose this one singular example? Do you go out and protest the pronunciation of Los Angeles?

[trail cove]

Something about this statement seems so wrong.

[astral cipher]

It does give off reaction meme vibes lol

[astral cipher]

The Eurocentrism, perhaps

[pulsar lintel]

The NCR fan squirms at the sight of ontological truth

[olive wadi]

More like under new management

[digital kestrel]

Not all culture is good

[trail cove]

If you keep saying "NCR fan" like that, just remove that display name, remove that tag.

[pulsar lintel]

This is what I say when NCR culture is brought up yeah

[floral mist]

for sure, I'm pretty sure there's like 2-4 notable historical pronunciations that solidly predate standard EN pronunciation

[pulsar lintel]

I’m a Kimball supporter, not a NCR fan

[digital kestrel]

the NCR is cool asf but pop-off i guess

[trail cove]

You know what, fuck it.

[mystic plaza]

where's that one legion fan who was posting race realist states and claiming the Legion's existence in the show was a humiliation ritual for white men.
That shit had me fucking rolling bro

[astral cipher]

Of course, don't you pronunce cities as Lohs Annhelehs or Fehnicks?

[elder fiber]

NCR arrives JUST IN TIME???

[astral cipher]

Are the Californians PATRIOTIC????

[olive wadi]

I'm pointing out incorrect pronunciation given th context of the scene. For common mispronunciations it's not as important

[elder fiber]

okay i will be honest, i really dislike people saying "oh wow it's the courier shooting the deathclaw"

[queen swift]

DID HOUSE FW THE GHOUL!?!?

[random star]

It's not

[olive wadi]

Maximus when he sees the NCR 🙄

[pulsar lintel]

Caesar is right in that Kimball should take over and become a dictator. Set the NCR straight. Personally I believe the corruption Kimball has spread in the NCR is a means of accelerating the rot present in the system so it experiences collapse asap and something else replaces it. He’s just cool like that.

[elder fiber]

yeah of course it's not the courier, they would never show him and it's a ncr vet ranger

[random star]

Hello max you have 20+ years of unpaid taxes

[olive wadi]

Caesar solved the raider problem

Meanwhile the NCR shoots up a bunch of non raider people on accident and doesn't even say oopsies

[mystic plaza]

Accident?????????

[olive wadi]

You're right

[trail cove]

"No more raiders. Only we can be raiders!"

[mystic plaza]

Lmfao that shit was 100% on purpose, those prospectors didn't give a single fuck about making more orphans.

[olive wadi]

New California Raiders

[patent dagger]

Lets not pretend the khans were saints

[random star]

Is it really a accident if you report in children and your commanders tell you to shoot up the place still

[pulsar lintel]

Well, publicly it was an accident…
Like how those loopholes about allowing slavers in their territory to operate was “accidental”.

[floral mist]

I mean yeah, that's about half the joke, too. Lucy, Vault-Tec born & bred "American" history teacher didn't get the pronunciation correct

[sacred idol]

God forbid a man have hobbies

[mystic plaza]

Not the Khans, the Sorrows. Lmfao

[olive wadi]

Lucy being a history teacher and getting every fact wrong

[patent dagger]

Sorrows fine

[pulsar lintel]

NCR colonizers being shot do not deserve crocodile tears

[trail cove]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh

[random star]

That's no excuse for shooting up kids tho

[trail cove]

It gets better and better, lmfao

[olive wadi]

I can't wait to visit Caesars Palace in Fallout 5

[mystic plaza]

"Ah, yeah the child was approaching the caravan aggressively, I swear my finger slipped on my Service Rifle, sir."

[sacred idol]

What if they're Ghoul kids?

[pulsar lintel]

the khans baked 40 babies in an oven. we will dance again.

[olive wadi]

Even the Legion protects ghouls

We will bring peace to the Wasteland

[trail cove]

Is that the big ass tumor on Caesar's head?

[pulsar lintel]

No that’s just the sheer size of his monumental brain

[random star]

No

[mystic plaza]

[pulsar lintel]

He really was the Yakub of the NCR

[random star]

Yes man turns into no man

[mystic plaza]

Bro is just big brained, trust

[patent dagger]

When did the ncr attack the sorrows?

[sacred idol]

Guy holding the flag is small af

[trail cove]

Never mention Fallout in front of armchair political nuts.

[astral cipher]

He's compensating

[olive wadi]

He is the size of the tallest NCR soldier

[pulsar lintel]

Caesar was bullied by NCR poors and he decided to take his intellect and followers elsewhere, creating the superior Arizonan tribal warrior

[trail cove]

He's still taller than Caesar's debilitated ass

[sacred idol]

Danny DeVito in Fallout S3?

[floral mist]

Norm-sized soldier

[olive wadi]

Norm from the future

[pulsar lintel]

Norm would make a good legionary

[olive wadi]

He joined Legion after Caesar arrives in California

[random star]

Danny devito is the president of the enclave

[trail cove]

All hail Maximus. Avenging son of the New California Republic.

[olive wadi]

Maximus after joining the Legion

[pulsar lintel]

The Vault tribes will be united under the Legion banner to fight the diseased remnants of pre-war democratic institutions known as the Enclave

[trail cove]

Oh fuck you, that's just

[mystic plaza]

So every basement dwelling Synthetic Man fan.

[steady linden]

LIBERTY PRIMEEEEEEEEEEE

[trail cove]

BWHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

[mystic plaza]

Lmfao holy

[patent dagger]

No 2

[trail cove]

What kind of fucking clownshit is this

[steady linden]

Isn't this episode 8 spoilers?

[pulsar lintel]

The Enclave have elections, they’re evil because they’re democratic. A Autumn dictatorship was the way forward.

[random star]

Libtery prime live action s3?

[elder fiber]

these jacket colors are very consistent

[pulsar lintel]

Veteran rangers, veteran rangers everywhere

[patent dagger]

But not the liberty prime

[mystic plaza]

Yeah the showrunners said he'll be a prop similar to deathclaws. Half puppet, half CGI

[trail cove]

So about that.

[elder fiber]

where did they?

[steady linden]

No yes man sad...

[trail cove]

And that was just five geriatric soldiers.

[mystic plaza]

LMAO HUNDREDS TO OLD REMNANTS???

[random star]

West coast and east coast brotherhood sending out there libtery primes

[steady linden]

I mean victor got a cameo why couldnt yes man have a small one

[sacred idol]

Liberty Prime when he finds the Enclave bunker

**Warning: Subterranean Red Chinese compound detected. Obstruction depth: five meters. Composition: sand, gravel, and Communism. **

[pulsar lintel]

Years of hardship in the Mojave desert forged them into a dangerous foe

[queen swift]

This scene was just

Wow

[trail cove]

Cool. Wave to plasma to the face, you die. You snooze, you looze.

[sacred idol]

I was expecting to smash the shit out of that Pip-Boy ngl

[pulsar lintel]

Unlike the NCR the remnants learned the ways of desert survival much like the Legion

[random star]

When are we getting a laser rifle fired

[pulsar lintel]

Season 5

[elder fiber]

we got a pistol fired

and we saw lasers in the legion camp, i think?

[random star]

And no the gauss rifle is a blastisc weapon

[sacred idol]

Bruh there wasn't even a laser lol

[queen swift]

Him just leaving it there is more impactful tbh

He would be the same Ghoul if he just smashed it. But he decided not to.

[trail cove]

Bro forgot about the NCR rangers.

[elder fiber]

max shot a laser pistol at Quintus

[pulsar lintel]

The rangers are the only worthy enemies of the Legion

But they are small and held back by the NCR

[trail cove]

A ranger woman bare-stripped of armor killed dozens of Legionaries including a centurion.

[pulsar lintel]

Probably because of her degenerate chem addiction

[trail cove]

So by that logic the Fiends would stomp the Legion.

[pulsar lintel]

Such things are outlawed in the Legion

[elder fiber]

i hope we get more Biff in s3

[astral cipher]

Agreed

[trail cove]

God bless the Enclave. Death to the mutie scum.

[sacred idol]

Chonky

[pulsar lintel]

Your weakest recruit has conditioning on par with rangers with only healing powder and turbo as their aid. This is why they are superior.

[astral cipher]

Ts goes hard

[trail cove]

Hey watch this

[pulsar lintel]

The Fiends don’t know the ways of desert warfare, as they are the lowest of degenerates

[olive wadi]

When you get to New Vegas with an army and the cowardly NCR only has 15 soldiers there

[pulsar lintel]

Joshua was so great because of what he learned while under the Legion.

He would be stomped by Lanius the mighty regardless

[sacred idol]

Macaulay killed it this season. And I don't even like the Legion

[trail cove]

No, he's great because he follows the will of God. The Legion means nothing to him anymore.

[mystic plaza]

I use it for my Navarro survivor in FNV. From the mod page.

[pulsar lintel]

So great his empire consists of 1 weak ass tribe 😂 😂 😂

White Leg victims without the courier and sorrows help

And the White Legs are below the Legion’s notice…

[sacred idol]

Joshua, put a cap in General Gobbledigook here

[trail cove]

All this talk about the Legion makes me want to reload my save where I slaughtered the entire Legion camp with a pipe

[sacred idol]

This was so much better wtf
https://youtu.be/j5_rZaZ6dz0?si=zYXwuzFPJfmWTkAx

[pulsar lintel]

This is what a single legionary prime did to ranger station Charlie btw

[pulsar lintel]

Kevinus will wipe yeah

[digital kestrel]

glad they redesigned it

[pulsar lintel]

The future of the show should be a Kevinus-Quintus alliance

[trail cove]

I thought it was multiple Legionnaries

[digital kestrel]

Granite :D

[elder fiber]

not lad

[olive wadi]

Quintus will gift to Caesar Legion Prime

[digital kestrel]

glad

[pulsar lintel]

Democracy is the very definition of failure

Democracy is a temporary setback on the road to prosperity

[digital kestrel]

obviously i should just be the dictator because i cant do anything wrong

[patent dagger]

So if lanius took denver the legion does take cities and he cities the lack of tribals near as an issue

[pulsar lintel]

Dictatorship is truth

[pallid saffron]

This is true for me and me only
When I die it should end with me
This is the only way to run a faction that is valid

[rain breach]

A whole year to wait now

[pulsar lintel]

Legion is confirmed to have Flagstaff and Phoenix before Denver

[olive wadi]

Leadership is all about the carrot and stick and right now the wasteland needs a very big stick