German tank buff orders

[maiden dawn]

US and RU recently got a buff to their tanks with US getting cards that specifically affect Sherman's and RU getting cards that specifically affect T-34s

Germany is one of the primary users of armored warfare and shouldn't be left out

These serve to increase the power and effectiveness of German tank decks and this also contains an additional card for heavy tanks exclusively

If you are upset about the naming conventions or the lack of card backgrounds I'm sorry

This is just some recommendations if you have an idea on how to change them or something of the sort I'm open to your ideas!

[sand dirge]

These seem really cracked

[maiden dawn]

tradeoff is the bit of time it takes estimation is that turn 2-4 are going to be spent on

Blitz Doctrine - One of the orders - Contest Doctrine

then you're lined up for turn 5 where you start putting tanks out

plus with the nerf (and reservement) of Reichsbank this is a bit of a slow burn it could benefit a lot from ramp but it's primary purpose is to encourage a change for not only Germany but also overall

overall i really wanna see more things for German tanks and through that some buffs could be helpful

if you have a recommendation to tone them down or something im open to ideas

wonder if it would've been better to space the cards across multiple uploads so that way more people could see it

[finite plume]

Panzer province and panzervor seem to be too strong

[maiden dawn]

panzer province could have the draw another panzer III dropped but the free operation cost is what helps it since the panzer III's have blitz

panzer vor kinda takes a while since its activated on turn 3 and the panzer I/II's have 1 attack it could be strong but it requires the enemy to not deal with your tanks

you have a different idea for them?

German tank buff orders

[finite plume]

panzervor could be 2k and just be ' your tanks that cost 2k or less get +1 defense when deployed'

although i dont really like that

maybe they get +1 +1 when they attack the enemy hq

[maiden dawn]

doesn't that accomplish a similar feat though?

plus they don't have a health issue maybe instead it could be like- +2 to attack when they attack enemy hq?

[finite plume]

Because +2 attack makes them straight up 3-3, 4-1, 4-2’s when attacking the hq

If they have something similar to defeat in detail they only get bonus damage if they survive a second turn

Which makes is way less punishing to fight against

[maiden dawn]

yea but the low health is the balancing factor plus at that rate why wouldn't you just use defeat in detail and this is meant to be an elite card

giving them an ability to help other units doesn't make sense neither historically or balance wise

giving them attributes like ambush blitz or the like doesn't do much with their low attack

the best use of the panzer I and II is to attack enemy hq and buffing their damage vs the hq would be an addition that could help them

alternatively we may just need to accept that unless we add a weird passive or destruction effect panzer I and IIs are just meant for aggro

we could make it so it would buff your HQ so it would become something like

when a panzer I or II attacks the enemy hq draw a card

or something like when a panzer I or II attacks the enemy hq you gain two kredits

[finite plume]

Draw engine could be helpful

Although it may need a name change then

[maiden dawn]

maybe rename it to supply bags?

or armored resupply

[finite plume]

Unyielding assault?

Actually

Make it draw tanks

That would make it incredibly helpful

Worth losing out ur tempo on T3

[maiden dawn]

yeah but then i fear that's encouraging aggro too much

[finite plume]

But it requires 0op cost

To become full aggro

You would need to play only 1k tanks

Else you would have to spend more than 3k to draw a tank

So u either draw more draw

Or u draw tanks u can’t use that turn

[maiden dawn]

the card is a special tho so you could be drawing two cards per attack

[finite plume]

Yes but only panzer 1-2's / light tanks

and thats a 6 sunk kredits

[maiden dawn]

there's like- 23 panzer I and II total tho

i feel like giving +2 attack vs only hq is reasonable tho especially for when you can play it

plus any sort of guard severely inhibits your ability to fight

[finite plume]

I dont think so
Its such a major buff, basically giving all panzer 1-2's the ability to deal 3 dmg to hq

That would make 3* panzer 1's able to kill the enemy hq with blitzcriege

its simply too much dmg too fast

thats also not factoring in additional buffs that you would stack

Like veterancy of the panzer 1

[maiden dawn]

at turn 3 though gives the enemy room and time to react

that would be at turn like 4 or 5 though and at that point theres other orders that could do more

plus if the enemy runs say like- almost any guard unit then it'll one shot the panzer I or II

how is it too much? turn 3 needs to be waited on and the extra punching power is less than something like blitzkrieg

the alternative is to maybe just have it deal +2 to units only

[finite plume]

Because its a permanant buff that can stack

as for guards and stuff

gaurds stop pnazer1 either way

[maiden dawn]

then what's the issue? if panzer Is are getting stopped before they hit the hq then the additional damage isn't as much of a factor

[finite plume]

its that* not being able to hit the hq is a non-factor

So you look at what it can do when it does work

and when it does work it allows you to do blitzcriege levels of dmg without needing to spend kredits that turn

So u dont need to have multiple units in the frontline to get the full extent of the buff

[maiden dawn]

so does supply shipment or almost any of the German 3 cost or some of the 2 cost german units

[finite plume]

supply shipmets requires to spend kredits for every time u buff with it

and the pz 35(t) doesnt deal 3-4 dmg

[maiden dawn]

59 panzergrenadier

[maiden dawn]

but achieves the same goal for a kredit less

[finite plume]

once again requires a field alr filled with tanks to play

[finite plume]

for 1 tank...

the problem is you can play just 2 panzer 1-2's

and then its buff 2 tanks for 3k

[maiden dawn]

at turn 4 you play two panzer IIs and they reach the Frontline because your enemy isn't playing aggro

then they get road locked by a singular guard unit

or they get hit by through the ice

there's a massive amount of defense and if aggro continues down the route it likely will be why can't we upgrade it so running guard is logical

[finite plume]

which are all problems when running other aggro/ frontline decks

so why should this card not?

[maiden dawn]

why should this card not what?

[finite plume]

Im saying that all the issues you bring up with this card

are issues that exist for all frontline buff cards

they only difference is this is permenant and effects all copies of ur panzer 1-2's

So saying 'its balanced cus guards stop it'