Nerf to T-34-85 1945 or to 36th cavalry

[lethal ravine]

First of all t34-85 1945 is definetly overpowered, for 6 kredits you get an already good unit (6-6, blitz, cannot be supressed) with a game-winning ability (shock, cannot lose shock). It makes it unkillable if the eneny doesn't have good removal which can target it or a strong unit with a lot of attack and defense. The fact that you can get it very cheaply with stand together + 36th cavalry(when it dies it spawns two weaker copies still with 6 cost so u can abuse it with stand together) is kinda stupid and im pretty sure devs haven't thought about it. Even if you aren't lucky and don't get T-34-85 1945 from stand together you still get a strong KV-1(4-6, guard). In my opinion one of these should get nerfed but not stand together because its a fun card that can be used in many smart ways.
Nerf ideas:

1. 36th cavalry on death spawns 36th cavalry-2 (3-3 but 3 cost).
2. T-34-85 1945 loses the ability cannot lose shock.
3. T-34-85 1945 becomes 4-5/4-6 so it's shock isn't that overpowered.

[echo fox]

Or wait unit the Summer time

Or make the cost 5k but op cost 3k or make it's 7k but 1k and first one might better way

[stone quarry]

I think the t-34 losing heavy armor or one health is reasonable, but 36th cav dosen’t need nerfs

[echo fox]

I don't think so in my option

[lethal ravine]

it still lets you get cheap kv1s with stand together

[stone quarry]

And yet it’s barely strong enough to see play higher up in ladder

It’s the modern California

[lethal ravine]

california my beloved(not really)

[stone quarry]

Im also totally not biased about 36th (it was an important card in my first rank 1)

[lethal ravine]

i dont know that cause im too bad and play too rarely to play in higher ladder

[echo fox]

People do 36th cav with stand

!6k soviet tanks

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[echo fox]

!6k tank soviet

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[echo fox]

there we go

With what I said might be better

but who knows

Wait for Between or summer why

!stand to

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[echo fox]

If you don't know it's can be able to be moved

[lethal ravine]

why do balance changes only come in big updates?

[waxen token]

36th Calvary is a fairly large unit that does contain a lot of potential in slower/grindy matches
However it is notably extremely weak to suppress that will more or less destroy it outright. Also combined with it being infantry it's also somewhat common to see it get bounced or just not have the impact you want from a 6 drop right away.

The combo with stand together and the new elite T34 can eb a potent one since the 1945 can freely trade but the enemy is still using multiple cards to do so and having removal for big threats like that is usually something you need in decks anyway.

[echo fox]

And 36th calvary will be able to be moved out this winter at the end of 2025 with other covert cards

[waxen token]

It's overall something that can be risky to really do since it's fairly slow and vulnerable to a lot of commonly played cards. I wouldn't expect it to be changed since there are much stronger things the soviets are doing (general tank decks) and those probably are not in need of changes either

[echo fox]

And other thing is SPECIAL REINFORCEMENTS that's be able to be moved after this summer

[waxen token]

Balance changes take time to analyze the meta, figure out what changes would be good, and then properly tested before they happen. Combined with the devs often needing to go through a process on mobile to push an update out and there is just things that generally make it so balance patches only happen every few months

[echo fox]

and other winter war

[waxen token]

At one point we actually had faster balance patches with monthly changes but they often ended up causing issues because they weren't properly vetted

Either they didn't fix the problematic stuff or actually created another problem with a not well planned out buff

[echo fox]

Yea

5k with 3 op might be but there stuff to remove op cost so no

[lethal ravine]

why only in slower matches?

[waxen token]

Aggro decks will win before 36th does anything

[lethal ravine]

not everybody plays aggro decks?

[waxen token]

Hence "has potential in slower matches"

[lethal ravine]

and you can still defend in early turns

[waxen token]

If you are against aggro and are able to play 36th Cav out
and stand together with it
you have already won

[lethal ravine]

thats what im saying

there shouldnt be combos that just end the game

[waxen token]

no you misunderstand

aggro matches will be done before 36th is even played

36th is only potentially useful in slower matches

and even there it can be bounced, suppressed, or just eat removal

[lethal ravine]

than you shouldve said if your againsg 36th

[echo fox]

You can use for hammer or est to

[waxen token]

36th Calvary is a fine card

[echo fox]

!deal 6 damage

[waxen token]

Good budget option

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[waxen token]

it's not played at higher levels and probably won't be changed
Because slow and vulnerable

[lethal ravine]

ok:/

[echo fox]

yea but I have seen it at fm tho sometimes

[waxen token]

You can check places like #tournament-results-and-decks for what the higher end meta is

Stuff like Brit or US ramp are currently on top because they contain a lot of overwhelming late game power

[waxen token]

Yeah it's a good budget card
But FM is still quite a ways down from the "top" meta game stuff

[lethal ravine]

pretty sure lower rank players also matter

[echo fox]

yea

[waxen token]

they do but this combo has existed for a while and has not been issue even at lower ranks

Even with the new 1945 it's not like completely warping lower meta games around it

It's a strong thing to be doing

but so are a lot of things there

There are counters out there to stuff like that

namely suppression is insanely good at shutting down 36th
and almost every nation has one option to do so

[light elm]

I mean yeah, new players must and should learn the things they need to to get better, ie removal

The kv-1 with guard sucks btw

[echo fox]

Dude you were there from Brother in arms to Covert ops?

If not than it's like hell

[light elm]

But anyway yeah, responses to these things exist and as long as they aren't difficult to get or convoluted I don't see why new players shouldn't adapt instead of t-34 being changed

[echo fox]

Due to Cal

!calf

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[echo fox]

!5k Combat damage is 1

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[light elm]

latest Cali isn't that bad, a shock at first but just run any 3 damage removal ever

[echo fox]

https://tenor.com/view/i-want-to-die-kill-me-cry-please-why-gif-13413537

[echo fox]

Yea but from brother in arms to covert ops I was rank 20 and never did rank due to them

And I didn't try at all why I had a bad feeling about it

[echo fox]

yes but they were healing them or aka giving it more health

[light elm]

then run a bigger removal option

counters to that stuff still like, exists

[echo fox]

Yea

But I got so piss and annoyed so I quite rank

[lethal ravine]

ok your right

[hexed peak]

The real kicker in the card is the fact you cannot suppress it

[tidal stump]

!36th cavalry