bruh, i just create a monster

[hot mica]

its back and better
Major power: Japan
Ally: France
HQ: TRUK

Japan:
3x (1K) TYPE 94 TK
3x (1K) SURPRISE ATTACK
2x (1K) HONORABLE DEATH
2x (2K) TORA! TORA! TORA!
1x (2K) ISOLATION
1x (2K) DESPERATE MEASURES
1x (3K) NAVAL OPERATION
1x (3K) Ki-46 DINAH III
1x (3K) LAST RITES
2x (3K) D4Y SUISEI
1x (3K) AUDACITY
1x (3K) 2nd RAIDING BRIGADE
2x (4K) SENDAI REGIMENT
1x (4K) Ki-83
1x (4K) BOMBING RAID
3x (4K) 61st INFANTRY REGIMENT
1x (5K) N1K-J SHIDEN
1x (7K) KIKKA
1x (8K) HOME DEFENSE
1x (10K) TO THE LAST MAN

France:
3x (1K) VIVE LA RESISTANCE!
2x (3K) DEFEND IN DEPTH
2x (5K) PHONEY WAR
2x (6K) LIBERATION

IMPORT CODE:
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[sudden snow]

2x phoney but no arming?

[hot mica]

no

no need, theres no synergy with long range recon

[sudden snow]

So what abt it's synergy with long recon

Arming helps when u go 2nd

[hot mica]

the pin effect should be enough when you go second

[hot mica]

usually before the recon nerf, arming have a synergy with recon, but now theres no need for both of them in the deck

[sudden snow]

Explain the synergy instead of just saying"they used to synergize but now they dont"

And pin in jap res isnt good enough AOE for aggro decks and clog your hand against control decks

at least aoe focused decks using all copies of tora or using imperial decree can at least deal damage to face as well as helping clean up the board

[hot mica]

arming will clog opponent hand, thus recon will heal more if opponent doesnt have a lot of cards in their hand before arming

[sudden snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/976218336968990740/1042228079575183370/long_range_recon.png you are talking abt this card yes?

[hot mica]

this is the old version

sorry new version

[sudden snow]

so you're saying your deck is outdated

?

[hot mica]

?

[sudden snow]

like

[hot mica]

i have no long range recon in my deck bruh

check again

[sudden snow]

wym by recon then

scouting party?

[hot mica]

old long range recon used to heal by counting cards on board and in your hand

[sudden snow]

then why are you talking abt LR here

[hot mica]

because you are asking why there are no arming here, the reason of arming is to heal more back in the day, but now the card is not that relevant in the deck

[sudden snow]

no????

arming is used as a win more card

as it slows down the enemy even more after using a card like vive

[hot mica]

yeah but there are better cards than arming in the deck

[sudden snow]

example

[hot mica]

audacity

deal with aggro stuff

[sudden snow]

maybe

but like

if you want to handle aggro well

you need more early AOE instead of just pin

pin is really good against other control but it still is pretty slow and stuff like tora can still hit face and keeps ur hand from capping out

[hot mica]

bruh why not just pin them in the frontline with suisei

[hot mica]

type 94 tk can hit face as well

[sudden snow]

mhm yes

1 dmg face

[hot mica]

yeah but its stays on the board

[sudden snow]

it is just

not enough to handle with aggro

[hot mica]

but it is tho

go play with the deck first

[sudden snow]

nah

ive tried pin res b4

[hot mica]

bruh, raiding brigade is in the deck

[sudden snow]

from my experiences it is too slow

[sudden snow]

yes 1 card shuts down aggro

raiding gets 2 cards off the board

just the general concept of this deck isnt good enough imo

[hot mica]

bruh, honorable, 2 toras, 1 naval, isolation, pins, 4 guards, heal with liberation, audacity, suisei, 2 sendai, bombing raid

[sudden snow]

but hey if it works it works

[hot mica]

and desperate measures as well

[sudden snow]

naval is bad against air but then again air was nerfed
isolation is weird
guards is ok
pins like i said is better against control and at times can be slow
heal is ok
suisei is ok
sendai is meh against control
bombing is good

desperate is alright as well

u can more value w/ desperate and toras with imperial decree

[hot mica]

yeah but i dont like drawing those cards when i dont need them, other cards have more value and can be more helpful. i can just topdeck my draw instead of imperial decree

[sudden snow]

you dont need to run 4x imperial just run 2x or 3x
4x tora and desperate makes it less annoying to get an imperial decree

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/976218336968990740/1042232778294575255/kawanishi_h6k.png
this and other dmg buffing cards like the 1/4 +1 dmg card synergies really well with tora and desperate as well as last rites

[hot mica]

im not too keen with adding more aoe in the deck, it wont be that good against big health units and often times u need a ton of heals to get to the point of winning with your aoe which something that this deck doesnt have anymore

and your opponent will play around your aoe a lot honestly

[sudden snow]

i mean how many cards do you need to kill big units?

[hot mica]

two

[sudden snow]

no like

in the deck in general

[hot mica]

surprise attack

[hot mica]

yeah, two

[sudden snow]

omg...

im talking abt deck composition

[hot mica]

more, if you want to combine it naval operation

[sudden snow]

not what cards you need to combo to kill big units

naval op only hits ground units

[hot mica]

suisei and surprise attack

[sudden snow]

like

how many cards you need to run

[hot mica]

also if you cant deal with untargetable units, just sendai them

[sudden snow]

for big units

to kill big units in control

[hot mica]

oh

[sudden snow]

most of cards like that are in control like the 6/5 panther

and most of the time sendai just gets hit from annihilation or anything that can deal 3 damage to a smokescreen card

[hot mica]

all of the cards in the deck helps honestly

[sudden snow]

yeah that is what im saying

[hot mica]

just ttlm him

[sudden snow]

imo it is too much

not flexible enough

[sudden snow]

fair

hmmmm

that is very fair

ill give u that one lol

[hot mica]

and suisei is deployment effect, which is amazing enough

[sudden snow]

eh

pin for one turn

oh wait

[hot mica]

3 turns, max potential

[sudden snow]

i dont think that is how suisei works

[hot mica]

that is how suisei works

[sudden snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/976218336968990740/1042235311721300000/d4y_suisei.png

doesnt say anything abt pinning 3 times in a row

only up to 3 units can be pinned

tezan with suisei can kill "cannot target by orders" units

but it is 8k and 2 diff units req

[hot mica]

oh, im saying 2 suisei, and 1 naval operation takes care of untargetable units

so 3 max potential

[sudden snow]

oh alr alr

i mean

jap res will need those 3 turns

but from what ive experienced jap res is more abt getting the enemy to fatigue instead of getting turns for ur big plane wincons

and said big planes are really expensive and slow

[hot mica]

not 4k 6/5 ki 83 tho

[sudden snow]

fair

but that is one card

no blitz

[hot mica]

yeah im running kikka for fatigue race

[sudden snow]

unless u give it blitz with the 1k jap general 💀

[sudden snow]

kikka and last rites?

[hot mica]

yes

[sudden snow]

but kawanishi makes them way more valuable

the kamikazes

3 dmg for 1k

and a draw

makes last rites 11k for 8 dmg to 11k for 33k dmg

but you usually get 10 dmg b4 it dies

which would be down to just 3 dmg without kawanishi

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/976218336968990740/1042236827270135998/m6a1_seiran.png
or this card to get 16 dmg for 11k

(11k due to last rites cost & the cost of kamis)

obv excluding the cost of the bombers but you can get what i mean

[hot mica]

kawanishi is fine, but its not anti aggro

[sudden snow]

seiran is tho

kawa is more for fatigue

seiran makes all of your tora's desperate measures without the loss of a kredit slot

or your desperate measures into a carpet bombing that also hits face

[hot mica]

its not as good as kawanishi, the deck is more consistent without those cards

[sudden snow]

how is it more consistent?

seiran is special and can run 2 copies which is consistent for control

and toras by themselves are still pretty good

and can still get value with imperial decree

[hot mica]

because you have to wait until turn 6 to play seiran + aoe

[sudden snow]

you dont have to use seiran with toras

you can use imperial decree w/ it

[hot mica]

and that usually happens if you want to kill 2 or three health units

[sudden snow]

or just by itself

[hot mica]

yeah but its just for one toras only

[sudden snow]

so?

it still gets really good value

2 standard cards for 2 damage across the entire enemy board

and 2k cost

[hot mica]

yeah but you ran out of juice after that

[sudden snow]

not really

it doesnt affect your hand that much

you must be running a really slow deck for that to happen

or just no draws

scouting part or the 1/2 recon special card can give draws

[hot mica]

yes, japan resistance is slow af

[sudden snow]

i mean that is the reason why aoe is better

you can still use the aoe cards without having to wait for a card to get on the board

the pin cards can only be used against units so if the enemy is running a control deck then it will req to have little draw

but by that point draw might just out compete you with draws

and imagine if the enemy is running USA/FR unitless

at least it is something

[hot mica]

it wouldnt fulfill entire potential of the aoe cards, which i worry a lot since your opponent will play around your aoe for this to happen

[sudden snow]

just dont use all of them

you arent piloting it correctly

even if the enemy plays around it they are still playing around it

and it still stalls the enemy

[hot mica]

that deck will counter every deck that wasnt aggro honestly

[sudden snow]

and with resistance it can make their hand even more clogged

[sudden snow]

yeah ik but aoe it works better against it

[hot mica]

you dont need to use all of them if you dont have a lot of them

[sudden snow]

just run 4x tora and desperate 💀

and maybe naval op

and stuff like defend in depth, sendai and honorable death for single units

aoe w/ maybe a little pin/big card removal is way more flexible and applicable comparted to a primarily a pin deck

[hot mica]

i just run two toras to make the deck more consistent

[sudden snow]

yes running less of a card makes it more consistent 💀

[hot mica]

i mean more winning consistent

[sudden snow]

elaborate

[hot mica]

running different cards will be more useful against a wider range of deck archetypes

[sudden snow]

that is fair

but aoe is just generally applicable

good against aggro and decent against control

[hot mica]

yeah but two surprise attack will kill one 6 health unit which probably have mare, and i cant say two toras will do that

[sudden snow]

just use the non aoe cards

or

seiran into imperial into tora and then desperate measures

[hot mica]

like i ran more threats to make the deck looks as scary as possible

[sudden snow]

you mean wincons

[hot mica]

yeah i guess

[sudden snow]

that's fine

the wincon for any res in general is just

fatigue

that is what you should be going for

if you want a deck more around wincon cards specifically just go play ger/ita ctrl

[hot mica]

thats sorted honestly

[sudden snow]

but

no arming...

2x phony is ok but

sucks ass against aggro

[hot mica]

last rites and kikka is enough i think

[sudden snow]

12 dmg is fair

but the synergy with the dmg buffing cards makes fatigue way more easier

[hot mica]

yeah but im tired of playing that deck, cant even counter usa midrange bruh

[sudden snow]

fair

aoe counters frontline way better tho

[hot mica]

inb4 we can do it

[sudden snow]

any midrange is dead outside of ladder

just control them b4 they can even use wcdi

[hot mica]

if you cant control the frontline they still can use that i think

[sudden snow]

then that's just a bad control deck

[hot mica]

well this deck can do that

[sudden snow]

have you played it against a frontline deck then?

[hot mica]

i have i think