drg-board-game

[ember ledge]

I like them. Plus you get them on top and end up having both. I then use paper ones to fill in once the plastic ones are all in use

[outer totem]

and you have to get those through the kickstarter right?

nvm it looks like you can get them on the website

[ember ledge]

Pledge 4 lists the plastic ones for the new expansions

The old ones are selectable as add on in backer kit and mood store

[outer totem]

oh so I dont have to add them. thanks goodness sorry I guess I missed that

[outer totem]

I dont see it anywere

am I blind or something or am I just missing something

[ember ledge]

Acrylic tokens

[outer totem]

oh

whoops lmao

[outer totem]

are the acrylic ones worth it?

[royal nacelle]

I've seen a couple people say they played enough to start wearing out cardboard, and some talk of spillages due to kids. So depends, I havent used mine cause I'm careful and handle stuff delicately. But they're a nice backup at least

[ember ledge]

And they look nice

[outer totem]

I think ill get them although the sad thing is, is that my DRG broad game has only been played liek maybe 8 times

[ember ledge]

More than mine 😂

[outer totem]

bro it takes so long to set up 😭

[ember ledge]

I played as much online in table top simulator

Especially when living further apart it has been useful

[outer totem]

it looks like you cant get the acrylic tokens on Moods site so I think I might order some through the kick starter

[outer totem]

nice that sounds fun

[ember ledge]

I see them there

[outer totem]

hmm

[ember ledge]

2nd row

Called plastic there, not acrylic

[outer totem]

but they are acrylic?

if so weird

[royal nacelle]

Yup there's a link in update#10: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moodpublishing/deep-rock-galactic-rivals-and-horrors-of-hoxxes/posts/4444692

[outer totem]

luckly I have some peeps near by that I can play with but some people dont want to play because it takes so long

holy shit im tired its almost 1 AM

I need to finish this up lol

@ember ledge thanks for your help man, sorry for some of the dumb questions Im just pretty tired recently because of work. anyways good night friend

[ember ledge]

I understand the rush. Rest well

[delicate seal]

Hi all, will there be a late pledges timeframe for the 3rd Kickstarter... Monies this month haven't been kind to me 🫠

[royal nacelle]

We don't know, MOOD hasn't made any statements about late pledges.

You could still pledge €1 and get the pledge manager access, not sure you'll get the Kickstarter exclusives then though.

[delicate seal]

Gooood shout!

[delicate seal]

It's all good, im in! 😄

on TTS, what is the best workshop download to play it virtually?

[royal nacelle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2750642580 is the official one

[kindred gale]

Kickstarter didnt charged me but showed no problem, is it something wrong at my side?

[royal nacelle]

Could be your bank blocked the transfer.

[kindred gale]

It said I dont have enought money so I transfered some and then everything went thru on kickstarter side but nothing happened to my balance

[royal nacelle]

Give it a bit or email them I suppose. Normally they'll try again later but if you want the peace of mind you can get in touch

[tiny holly]

I'm so bummed, I had everything picked yesterday and forgot to hit pledge, I guess there's now way now?

[royal nacelle]

You'll have to wait for late pledge.

But pretty sure you'll miss out on the exclusives.

[tiny holly]

Man I screwed up

Shit

[royal nacelle]

I could be wrong of course.

Either way you'll have to wait for late pledge and see then

[tiny holly]

I'm legit sad and mad at myself. Oh well I guess

[outer hatch]

Its sour. But you are not alone. I missed last Kickstarter. But had to spend dosh on more important life choices. Just glad Mood started production on certain packs again. I mean if its good business why stop? Many hungry mini painters, board gamers and DRG/ Rogue Core fans out there that migth have missed the opportunities

[upbeat oasis]

Yeah I got second edition so now I gotta look up the rules whenever I have to reference

[royal nacelle]

I can recommend a fancy new technology called pen and paper. Or those magical boxes that take slices of paper and deposit ink onto them, creating writing or images.

[upbeat oasis]

Wait what
That sounds like magic
Surely you're lying to me

[royal nacelle]

No no I did clarify the magical nature of the box

The way a pen deposits writing onto a paper though is still a mystery to me. Doesn't seem as magical, but there's something going on that I can't quantify.

[neat mirage]

🤯

[upbeat oasis]

Oh I understand
It's the "pen" and "paper" thing that's really getting to me

[timber snow]

i have been resolved of my sins...

[neat mirage]

absolved is the word you're looking for
resolved has another meaning

[timber snow]

GAH

well alright!

[upbeat oasis]

Yeah I thought that was weird

[timber snow]

mission specific ideas (base game)

ELITE GRUNT SWARMS
place 1 grunt on each cave exit for each swarm card that was played (minimum is 1), then activate all grunts only

DUCK AND COVER
placed down 1 mactera spawn on each cave exit, if theirs no more mactera spawns, then place down 1 web spitter instead, if theirs no web spitters either when this was drawn, then place down only 1 spitball infector on the exit furthest from a dwarf

EXPLODER INFESTATION
place down 1 exploder on exit 1 and 3 (if theirs no 3, then just 1), then activate all exploders only

STICKY GOLD
place down 1 gold on a wall space closest to a dwarf, and place down a webbed condition under it
if mined, then give that webbed condition to that dwarf, if this has already happened twice and no one has mined any "sticky gold", then just place 1 gold instead

TOXIC AIR
deal 1 damage to your dwarf

just some ideas i had

elite grunt swarms was based off the mission book

[ornate dock]

I like these !

I just think that they should activate all créatures instead of just specific one

[timber snow]

well, i dont want them to be more deadly then a swarm itself

[midnight maple]

Duck and cover sounds like hell. Very fitting

I like these a lot

[timber snow]

thanks!

BLOOD SUGAR
place down 3 grunts at exit 1, these grunts have 1 health cube attached to them, killing them drops the health cube on the floor to be picked up by dwarfs

hold on

let me actually mix toxic air and blood sugar

i think this is better

[royal nacelle]

I think you're heavily underestimating how punishing dishing out pure damage on a MSE card is. Suppose you've been fighting and then draw two MSE cards in a row, could well have most of the team go down with next to no warning nor chance to recover.

There's a reason it's usually only knocked over/stun for the whole team, and that only on a roll of !, while other stuff happens to the active dwarf (and even then usually a roll is involved).

[timber snow]

i plan to only use these modifiers on more short but challenging missions
but yeah, i should change them a bit to be more forgiving

those 2 i mean

[velvet current]

There is a drg board game?

That’s awesome

[neat mirage]

yippie

[bold crag]

am sad did not see anything about the expansion kickstarter till just now :(

[royal nacelle]

There's always late pledge

[timber snow]

okay i like this one, i think this is a good one

[bold crag]

how does the late pledge work?

[royal nacelle]

It's practically a "pre-order", while still cheaper than retail I think (was so last two times). Just gotta wait for it to open, not sure when the pledge manager opens, and if late pledge is sometime later or at the same time. Can't quite recall what it was like last time.

[outer totem]

😭

[outer totem]

I know you can buy the stuff on moods website but has anyone actually seen a store stock the DRG game?

because I sure as shit haven't

[royal nacelle]

Yes, I've seen a local store stock it, but also some online stores. There was recently some fuss about GameNerdz online store that'd done preorders and then there was a 4 month delay after they said they'd be able to ship

[outer totem]

damn thats shitty

[royal nacelle]

You get what you pay for, a lot of people ordered from there because it was cheaper, while stuff was in stock over at MOOD.

[outer totem]

yeah I guess

[bold crag]

Still sad about not seeing this in time though

gmail apparently decided I did not need a notification on my phone for kickstarter emails. (also auto moved the emails to a subgroup for some reason)
and I don't know where else this was advertised.

I almost never touch social media and my friend who checks here more often did not see anything about it.

[outer totem]

i just haven't seen any store in my area stock the game sadly

[outer totem]

damn bro

that sucks

[royal nacelle]

well we've been chatting about it nonstop for a month, beyond that it's been announced on the DRG steam page, Reddit, youtube. Really depends where you're looking.

Facebook, MOOD basically had a countdown.. Instagram..

[outer totem]

during the first exspansion I forgot to pledge before the campaign was over so I'll probably just buy the stuff off the website

[royal nacelle]

Was also announced on the earlier Kickstarter pages.. but yeah if you weren't subscribed or don't track social media.. not sure where you would've seen it

I'd have to go back and check but the first mentions of the expansions being in the works was .. like april maybe? Memory is a bit hazy.

Middle of March even it looks like

[outer totem]

uh I just realized I might have spend a little extra money buying tokens I didnt need

I got Pledge 4 and added tokens for the expansions but I think it comes with the tokens already

[bold crag]

The only places I would really see it would be on steam, emails from kickstarter, my friend who checks here often, and maybe youtube.
Did not see the steam page article about it.
Gmail through the kickstarter emails aside and did not send notifications to my phone
and youtube did not send me the video about it.

Never really activly looked for new stuff about the board game

Just kind of sent to me by email/video or my friend who frequents this server more.

I don't recall ever seeing anything about this in march but could have just forgotten about it.

Main thing now I guess is trying to get into the "late-pledge/pre-order" of it

[royal nacelle]

Eyes peeled on the Kickstarter page now then basically. Late pledge period should be pretty generous though so check once a week or something.. or often enough you don't forget at least xD

[bold crag]

indeed

[upbeat oasis]

Can the tabletop simulator version randomly generate missions or can you just do missions from the mission book?

[royal nacelle]

It only has premade missions, but you could just the same make your own.

[upbeat oasis]

Cool just checking

[royal nacelle]

Could use SirSamson's mission generator app, and then just plug the map design into TTS.

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/3512461/mission-generator-app-were-back-online

[upbeat oasis]

Thank you very much

Oh I used to use that but then it disappeared
Glad to see it's back

[tacit yew]

does everyone backing the expansions get all these cards? or are they split 50/50 in both expansions

im assuming yes but it wasnt in the update

[royal nacelle]

Update #11 specifically states 'all exclusives for everyone'.

[midnight maple]

I just noticed in the image that the plasma catapult is separated from the rest of the secondaries and I'm very upset now

[ornate dock]

Yes i saw that goo

Too

[midnight maple]

Goo

[royal nacelle]

I saw the goo now that it was mentioned.

[ornate dock]

There is litteraly no reason for it to be sperated

[royal nacelle]

I was more perplexed by Magma Piercer image provided being much higher resolution than the others, to the point that I yoinksed it for TTS.

[ornate dock]

Poor plasma launcher must feel so alone among all thoses grenades

[royal nacelle]

There is, to show off its whole front graphic compared to sliding it inbetween two other cards and hiding it

[ornate dock]

Yes but it hide the frenzy bomb

[midnight maple]

Bug cooker?

[royal nacelle]

Plasma Catapult has the explosive AoE they wanna show off

[midnight maple]

I guess

[royal nacelle]

You know I'm right.

[midnight maple]

Wait what's the fire looper?

I didn't notice when they announced that one

[royal nacelle]

It loops fire.

[royal nacelle]

from memory it burns the shooter on a double hit, so lose 1 health. Flame die with 3 tile AoE, OC has the big AoE..

[midnight maple]

So plasma catapult but fire?

Wait nvm it costs extra ammo

[royal nacelle]

and health instead of extra ammo

[midnight maple]

I assume that these effects don't apply to extra dice from upgrades

Otherwise they would be pretty bad

[royal nacelle]

I'd assume that they likely don't have a closer description, but honestly if extra dice from upgrades get all the benefits, they also should get all the downsides. Else you're firing a massive AoE and doing 5 damage to everything in it, for no downside.

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[midnight maple]

I guess, but man, dealing to yourself 3 damage or losing 3 extra ammo is rough

[royal nacelle]

Entirely on you to smack three double damage dice onto it.

[midnight maple]

Not impossible

[royal nacelle]

It's not impossible no but it's your choice. If you know those are the consequences it's on you to decide which you want to do.

[ornate dock]

Wow

Mods

[midnight maple]

Also random question I never thought about. Do scout flares stack?

[ornate dock]

<@&296918282403840000> I think this isn’t a board game

[royal nacelle]

They do not

[ornate dock]

That’s a great question actually

[midnight maple]

Makes sense. Would be funny though

[ornate dock]

My scouts sadly never use his flair

[royal nacelle]

The rules are permission based, it'd have to say that they did

you're of course free to houserule, just to get your scout to use their flares 😉

Personally I quite often use flares, else I run out of ammo way too fast

[ornate dock]

Do you think it Stack with the new crystal though ?

[midnight maple]

Force them to use the magma piercer

[royal nacelle]

On separate dice, I don't see why not. But generally in tabletop/boardgaming you can't reroll a reroll.

Or so I've been taught over the years

[ornate dock]

My scout friend never does and suck out ammo faster than a vaccum cleaner

[ornate dock]

Great idea

[royal nacelle]

Well let them spend their ammo, and smack em if they order a resupply

[ornate dock]

Even with his questionnable way we never lost a game so

Even in hasard 5

Make me question myself

[royal nacelle]

It's the Rambo luck. You wish it'd run out so they learn a lesson, but it doesn't...

[midnight maple]

The average scout experience honestly

[ornate dock]

But I really follow the rules so I guess we are really efficient

[ornate dock]

It’s been 2 years 💀

[midnight maple]

My win rates with scout on the team is embarrassingly high compared to without one

[royal nacelle]

Sounds like git gud is in order 😛

[ornate dock]

Just like in the real game

[royal nacelle]

Class selection/balance can be so flakey IMO

[midnight maple]

I'm the scout main of the group

[royal nacelle]

Sometimes Engineer is the MVP with their sentry doing 90% of the lifting, sometimes it's Driller or Gunner..

[ancient prawn]

For us, it was Free Action Frank with the scout and a Subata

[ornate dock]

Frrr

[ancient prawn]

scout would free action all over the place and just kill everything

[ornate dock]

Scout free action is really good

[midnight maple]

Have you ever had a scout with an epc?

Not as many actions but the map is just empty now

[ornate dock]

I think every Time scout uses his grappling gun he should roll à damage dice and on ! Be instantly oneshotted by fall damage

[ornate dock]

Have you ever whitnessed a scout with the engi shotgun and two upgrade ?

It’s like throwing a enraged dog into an hamster field

[midnight maple]

Not yet, we always thought it was niche because up until recently we didn't know you can assign dice to different targets

[midnight maple]

I'd assume so

[ornate dock]

Damn

[midnight maple]

We thought it was exclusive to the driller primaries 😭

[ornate dock]

I have to houserule the dreadnough so it doesn’t die in three turns to the scout

[ornate dock]

Godammit

[ornate dock]

But it must have spiced up your games though

[midnight maple]

You don't know how funny it was seeing the gunner empty his minigun on some grunts to get the last morkite we needed

[royal nacelle]

I mean that's been an OP build since day 1. Don't blame you but eh xD

[midnight maple]

And still couldn't kill the last one

[royal nacelle]

Ya know one of my Scout builds had Ole considering a nerf..

[midnight maple]

Ole?

[royal nacelle]

Ole Steiness. The game designer of the DRG board game

[midnight maple]

Oh

I have another question, this time regarding an idea for a homebrew class
The idea is that it would have an exclusive secondary weapon, so how bad of an idea would it be to let it pick other classes' primary?

It's supposed to be a spin on how rogue core classes don't have unique weapons and use ones from classic drg

[royal nacelle]

Right, I've backspaced two messages because I thought more about it. It's not that out there, considering some of the gear upgrades in spacerig expansion, as long as you make it so that the class doesn't have some OP traversal tool like Scout. Consider Scout with other class' primaries, as a base.

If you take Scout and give him free pick of other class' primaries, you're getting an OP class. If you slightly gimp them, in other ways, and THEN give them free choice, it'll be more balanced.

Make their own primary for example short range, or limited damage.

So they have to pick between long range secondary, or crowd control, or massive damage potential, etc.

[midnight maple]

I still don't have any idea what I'd make its traversal tool but I don't want them to have the same ones of the normal classes because that would be pretty boring

[royal nacelle]

One frequently suggested '5th class' I've seen for DRG video game is a class with a jump pad or teleport pad. So could deploy first pad in one location, second pad within X number of tiles (say 4, or 5), walk onto either pad as a movement action and end up on the other pad, ending your action.

That'd be a fair class to have dual primaries on, Doesn't get a personal traversal tool like Scout, has to spend time deploying traversal points.

Slightly more powerful than Gunner's zipline (but you can limit it to only 2 pads total), but spends 2 actions to deploy.

[midnight maple]

Wouldn't that be a stronger zipline then?

[royal nacelle]

See above. Yes. But also more limited. And your move action ends.

Just a board-gamified version of what I've seen suggested.

[midnight maple]

Could work. An idea I had is picking a dwarf within range and teleporting to a free space next to them or teleport them to a free space next to you

Like a supportive version of my previous class that swaps places with another dwarf

[royal nacelle]

That seems quite powerful

[random hatch]

enjoy this poorly photoshopped yet functional monstrosity

[midnight maple]

I don't think so. Give it r4 and LoS requirement and it's a tool to help you cross gaps with scout on the team or save a surrounded ally

[royal nacelle]

Don't tell me what to do! Also nice.

[midnight maple]

Maybe even r3 could work

[royal nacelle]

That is monumentally stronger than anything else, unless it has a one time use that has to be resupplied.

[midnight maple]

Really? I thought that it was balanced by the fact that it forces the team and especially you to consider your positioning

[royal nacelle]

If you just move adjacent with R3 it's simply scout's grappling hook. If you swap places it's something else. But even swapping places, as you say, save an ally by popping in and then being able to do whatever you do. You could pop in, swap them out of the situation, and then move away instead of shooting. You've moved yourself, AND your ally, and then again yourself.

Swappling places is your movement, plus your ally's movement.

So consider you being able effectively to do double movement.

With Scout you move adjacent, you're both still in that situation. Same with Gunner, they move adjacent drop shield, you're both still in the situation (but shielded).

With a Swap you're getting double movement and can negate the situation

[midnight maple]

I was talking about the drag ability. But if you're talking about the swap ability, that's for a melee class that's designed to reward you for jumping into danger and fighting enemies face to face

I can agree with you that the drag ability is dumb though

Teleporters it is then

[royal nacelle]

I'm just going top of my head as I interpret things, which may all be wrong.

I'm not saying you must, or can't, do any of it. But it'll need playtesting and consideration of different situations. Personally I'm inclined to look for exploits or holes

So, please don't take my comments too negatively.

A "swap mechanic" could well be you move 3 tiles to adjacent of a friendly, and move them to any adjacent tile of you. For example. Rather than swapping places with your original starting point.

[midnight maple]

Nah dw, last time I was tired so I lashed out. Sorry about that

[royal nacelle]

You mean I'm doing something other than entitled trolling? 😛

[midnight maple]

You give points of criticism from time to time as well

This is the character I made with the swap ability

The swap ability is used to insentivize you to go for greedy plays while saving another friend

[royal nacelle]

Yea. Might be strong. As nothing forces you to stay. You swap and move. As I said, you're getting your, and their, movement in one. All that said though, playtesting. If it feels good after a bunch of playtesting, why not. It can look bad/wrong/overpowered from the outside.. but once you play it a bunch, it may well be fine.

[midnight maple]

I haven't had much time to playtest it yet (only did one game so far) and it didn't feel too strong

[royal nacelle]

Some of the strenghts you may not notice except once in a while.

[midnight maple]

Off the top of my head I can't really think of a way where it's that viable to swap and run because in the best case scenario you buy yourself and the person you swapped with one activation before the enemies just swarm you or that person again

At that point my logic tells me to just stand there and cleave the grunts or a bigger target for the vampirism passive

[ornate dock]

Maybe add an ammo system ?

So you can’t spam it ?

[royal nacelle]

One activation is quite a lot. Consider that Gunner could move adjacent and shield, or Driller can fire wall or freeze. Plus, if it's a melee creature you may move over a pit that forces their movement to take a longer path.

Swap and run depends on the range you give it

if it's R3, then yeah, it's one activation. R4 it may be 2.

Swap and run still gives you the ability to use throwables, or crowd control, or anything of the sort.

[midnight maple]

Players can't pass through firewalls no?

[royal nacelle]

They can, but take 1 damage

or, if you play 2nd edition RaW, they don't take damage

[midnight maple]

Oh

[royal nacelle]

You sure you wanna get me started? 😛

[midnight maple]

I thought it only deals damage if something spawns or is forcibly moved on top of it, otherwise it's just a wall

[royal nacelle]

1st ed dwarves can walk through it but suffer damage

[midnight maple]

Huh

[midnight maple]

The shield and freeze would be practically the same as putting the stun upgrade on his primary. Powerful? Yeah, but you can't ignore the fact that you're now in melee with enemies, blocking LoS on them for your friends and delaying the immediate damage if you don't kill them then and there by one activation

Shield does give more breathing space. But it's very limited in uses, and swapping would just take the gunner out of the safe zone

[royal nacelle]

Not so, shield blocks all damage. Freeze kills some flying creatures, and just stops activation, even at range. Stun still needs to hit if on a primary. Cryo cannon can pick targets, with a free action.

Shield is limited use is my point, if your traversal tool is just as powerful in theory, but no limited use, it ends up being far more powerful.

This is all theorycrafting

[royal nacelle]

I'm working on a Kickstarter comment response. Anyone available for a sanity check?

[royal nacelle]

mmmhm.. posted it.

[proven saffron]

I got the board game not too long ago and the bottom of the gunner mini is warped which causes the mini to wobble. Is there a way to fix this?

[agile wedge]

I'd try either rubbing the base on some sandpaper to get flat, or building it up with a little jb-weld and pressing the model on a flat piece of wax paper. Can't recall if JB sticks to wax though

[royal nacelle]

soak it in hot (boiled) water, and then press the base down on a flat surface

I did that with many of my miniatures, worked perfectly

[agile wedge]

This is better than my idea

[royal nacelle]

The miniatures soften up when soaked in hot water, you can adjust any aspect of them as you see fit doing that. And you can repeat the process if you're not happy after the first try.

[proven saffron]

Ok thanks! I’ll try that

[royal nacelle]

Very hot water was required when I did it, so do be careful

[proven saffron]

Got it

Would that cause other features like the mini-gun to bend under its own weight?

[royal nacelle]

You can dip only the base into the boiled water, and not the rest of the miniature. If any part of the mini warps that you dont want to warp, repeat the process only dipping that part into hot water

the rest of the miniature won't warp, it will be very localised

So you can dip only the base, if it's only the base you wish to fix

[proven saffron]

K thanks

[royal nacelle]

as said, you can do it many times over, you'll figure it out once you start trying it. Just be careful as you need very hot water.

[twilit hemlock]

Great news! I finally painted my bulk det

[ornate dock]

I love the yellow pustules

They do a great contrast with the rest of the body

[twilit hemlock]

feel like the arms could do with more red... maybe

[fiery panther]

it looks very boom

[lime jungle]

bros like GRAAAAAAAAAH

[urban iron]

Looks great!

[urban iron]

Maybe, to make the yellow contrast stand out a bit more

[sullen flax]

Hey! Which version of the STL files in backerkit has the loot bugs? Thanks!

[scarlet narwhal]

the one for the Base Game

[mystic compass]

I didn't recieve any

[scarlet narwhal]

thats because the loot bugs minis are only in the STL files

since having a mini instead of the token would mean you cannot walk on the same space as a lootbug

and would be a contrast to every other pickup token

[mystic compass]

I am aware. Wanted to print one some time ago, and went back through the files, and it wasn't with the rest of the files. Went back to the kickstarter to see if I remembered wrong, but couldn't fint it.

[scarlet narwhal]

contact MOOD then?

[sullen flax]

Thank you!
Wanna do some house rules for loot bugs and gold loot bugs :)

[worn lava]

When will the STL files be given to backers? Just curious

[royal nacelle]

Eventually. Could be a few months.

[worn lava]

Fair enough

[mystic compass]

I might do now that I know it wasn't just the voices in my head

[outer olive]

Rules questionL When exactly does the sentry trigger? Does it trigger on enemies spawning> On movement within its radius? Or just when an enemy moves into its radius?

[tacit yew]

whenever they move into/in their radius and attack in their radius

and it shoots at the same time as enemies attack

so a grunt and a turret can trade hits and both die at once

[outer olive]

ty

Does resupply block LOS and movement? I assume so, but it doesn't say

[earnest jetty]

I remember reading that it does not

Can't point to exactly where

[outer olive]

I suppose that makes sense

Am I the only one who feels like solo is much easier than multiplayer?

[kindred gale]

Do you think expansions will fit here or should I clean put another shelf

[tacit yew]

it probably is

[scarlet narwhal]

I sometimes play solo with 3-4 dwarves to make it extra difficult for me

Its def easier with 1-2

[neat mirage]

hmmm, I think it might fit but just about

[outer olive]

Really? Even with two?

[scarlet narwhal]

yea

fewer players means less potential bad events/creature activations or spawns between the end of one dwarf's turn and the start of their next one

so defending eachother is less necessary and splitting up is less risky

[hollow holly]

It definitely does not block LOS, it’s in the rulebook or faq. As for movement, it definitely does not block dwarf pass thru, I’m not sure if it blocks a dwarf stopping on it. I play it as if it does, but I believe the big miniature is fluff, and the supply pod is meant to be treated for all purposes as a token. So likely dwarves and monsters can move thru and stop on it but I’m not 100% sure.

[scarlet narwhal]

yea it does block ending movement on that space

[hollow holly]

Can monsters pass thru it or only dwarves?

[scarlet narwhal]

both

[hollow holly]

Thanks

Do you happen to have the Bulk Detonator rules? I only packed the card and questions came up tonight. I seem to remember reading to treat it as a regular exploder with different stats, and 2 red dice instead of 1

I can’t find any rules online for the thing

Just going by its card though it won’t blow itself up, it just pops when we kill it

[ancient prawn]

it's on the back/bottom of the box

Really wish that they'd've put that on the card itself, along with the menace and goo bomber rules

[hollow holly]

Thanks. So like an exploder, but not? Doesn’t appear it blows itself up if adjacent to a dwarf

[ancient prawn]

No, it attacks like a grunt, albeit a harder hitting one, but it doesn't self-detonate like an exploder

[royal nacelle]

"When a creature is either activated, placed, or moved into a space within 3 spaces of the sentry gun". 1 shot per creature per turn.

[outer olive]

Ty

[signal raven]

Are you guys playing so the exploder also destroys stalagmites and walls when detonating?

[royal nacelle]

The exploder doesn't do any of that. The Bulk Detonator does, but only adjacent (while its explosion damage is range 2)

[signal raven]

May the gods of DRG bless you ohh great Johnno!

[spiral belfry]

Bunkering with a resupply makes you literally invulnerable to anything with R1, and grunts move first filling in the gap. Lol

[royal nacelle]

1st ed spelled it out stating that you can't end movement on the resupply, while 2nd ed states "spaces with special miniatures" or somesuch.

[spiral belfry]

We stalled a game like that. Taking every action we could while the supply was up.

[hollow holly]

Sorry, not understanding your comment. What does bunkering with a resupply mean?

[spiral belfry]

Dig a tunnel into a wall, with no other exit. Place a resupply next to you. Now you have something that doesn't block LoS, but does prevent grunts from getting close enough to hit you

[hollow holly]

lol, got it

[spiral belfry]

Oppressors and ranged enemies can still attack you though

[royal nacelle]

you'd want a R1 non-grunt in the opening instead of grunts, like a Slasher

[spiral belfry]

I run that exploders can destroy any cave wall or stalagmite they're standing in. Unfortunately, they can't move into either

[royal nacelle]

I'd at best houserule exploders to destroy platforms, or ziplines (even tho the latter doesn't happen in the video game)

[spiral belfry]

That would block LoS, yes. But the point was more to clear out everything except grunts (it was a scout play) and therefore enemies that block LoS just got in the way in general

[signal raven]

Are flying creatures immune to sludge puddles?

[royal nacelle]

Yes

[spiral belfry]

I just had a fun, probably poorly balanced idea: one grenade with every resupply

in order to pick it up, you may not have any grenades

[royal nacelle]

Doesn't sound too unbalanced, especially if it's only one grenade. Mission 11 in Horrors of Hoxxes has a special rule with an extra throwable per Dwarf in play in each resupply (and double amount of secondary ammo).

[spiral belfry]

Interesting

Might house rule that, or make it a mission modifier

[royal nacelle]

Mission 10 also has the Dwarves starting with 1 fewer ammo of each type, but 2 extra throwables. Could put together a houserules setup where you can swap starting ammo for throwables.

[outer olive]

When does the driller's fire wall dissipate?

[royal nacelle]

start of his next turn

[spiral belfry]

Tactical turret wall

[midnight maple]

I assume the turret is to help with macteras to stop them from just flying over the resupply

[urban iron]

I love pairing this with the sludge puddles the driller uses. Did that technique with a friend and it made escort duty very easy

[royal nacelle]

Not really, Macteras would be able to shoot the sentry. As is if the Slasher wasn't there and it was a grunt instead the webspitter too would pop the sentry. The whole tactic can be done with the Dwarf standing where the sentry is, and if the Engineer did that with a grenade launcher (or breach cutter for that matter) he could be popping stuff behind the Slasher without breaking the stalemate.

Sentry is placed there since the Slasher is resistant to bullets, the Dwarves can create a stalemate and head off in the tunnel. Slasher will try to get to the Sentry but can't move adjacent, and sentry can't take out the Slasher. And nothing behind the Slasher can shoot it, because Slasher blocks line of sight. So need an Oppressor (or Dreadnought for that matter), or soon™ the Septic Spreader ..

[ornate dock]

Septic spreader will be a hell to deal with during a Swarm

[royal nacelle]

Creature pile-up with a septic spreader being covered by a warden... behind some stalagmites.. happy times xD

[midnight maple]

My friends are debating adding a "creature pool" mechanic to ban certain enemies during missions so the combos wouldn't get too painful to deal with

Kinda like in the video game

[ornate dock]

No.

You have to suffer

Glyphid don’t have a dwarf pool to avoid getting too annoying combo

[midnight maple]

Sad

Haz 6 only deck it is then

[royal nacelle]

I've heard of some people doing that, splitting their deck into parts, shuffling each pile, then selecting a number of cards from each pile to combine into a swarm deck.

[midnight maple]

It would also give a chance for creatures you keep in to shine

One of the reasons I'm not too keen on getting the bulk det expansion is because with one swarm card, the odds of pulling it are really low with the ever expanding swarm deck

Not that one should spawn each mission, but just to give it a better chance rather than the 53rd mactera/web spitter spawn

[royal nacelle]

You can certainly tweak the swarm deck as you see fit, but that's also the beauty of the RNG, you won't know what you'll get, rather than knowing there's a 50-50 chance you'll get the bulk because you whittled the deck down to 12 cards.

Personally when I've wanted to get a specific swarm I've shuffled the deck, pulled the top 4 cards, stuck whichever card I want to see into the middle of them, shuffled again and put them on top. That way it's most likely to be drawn that game at least.

[midnight maple]

12 cards is extreme, probably gonna do 18 card minimum restriction

If not more (not sure how many different swarm cards there actually are and I can't be bothered checking)

[royal nacelle]

Base game has 13, GfA 2, Biome 4, Bulk Det 1

[midnight maple]

Huh, I thought there were around 25-30

[royal nacelle]

Rival Incursion is listing 2 so far, Horrors of Hoxxes 5, then there's 6 Haz 6 I think?

[midnight maple]

Yeah

Plus one of shockwyrm

[royal nacelle]

Hasn't been stated that it has a Swarm card

[midnight maple]

You think it'll come with a special elimination mission?

[royal nacelle]

Either way, with the limited number of swarms you're likely to have, can well whittle down the swarm deck depending on what enemies you want to/don't want to see.

[royal nacelle]

Doubt it, considering Korlok and Bulk didn't.

Easy enough to just build your own, can use base game mission 6 as a template of sorts.

[midnight maple]

I doubt they'll just add the shockwyrm and say "you figure out how to implement it". It'll probably have a swarm card

[royal nacelle]

Event card?

Goo from Above has both event cards and swarm cards, don't see why Shockwyrm couldn't have an event card instead of Swarm card.. considering we've just been sat here discussing how bloated the swarm deck is getting xD

[ornate dock]

I think it’s bloated because the base game has too many when you mix them with the expansion

I remove half of them so other creature get a chance to shine

I think that the hazard 6 deck is gonna debloat the swarm deck a bit

[midnight maple]

Shockwyrm is practically a boss. If it were to show up from a casual event card that would be brutal

[cloud aurora]

It was a sticky situation (pun intented), but we made it through!

[cloud aurora]

You can take a look at the image above, my brother printed some resin lootbugs, one is in play, it is a bit tricky since you can't stand on them anymore but you can still be adjacent to them

[kindred gale]

Good thing you had a spitballer guarding the drop pod, it sure helped a bit

[upbeat oasis]

That's the problem for me
I wanna print things for the game like the pipes and refinery for on-site refining but then you can't stand on them anymore

[lime jungle]

omg THATS why they made it that way!

honestly never crossed my mind that

[coarse flint]

are you still able to pledge/buy the newer expansions coming out? if so where dod you?
i saw those extras that you get with them (the extra weapons/grenades, BET-C and all that) and got tempted to give in and purchase the upcoming stuff

or did i miss the window to get that stuff

[royal nacelle]

You missed it by 2 days or so. You can still get the expansions with a late pledge when that opens up soon, but I think the exclusives will be gone.

[coarse flint]

dang, fair enough. those like 5 bonus weapons and grenades looked

[royal nacelle]

Yea check back when late pledge opens, I could be wrong. Just don't get your hopes up.

[reef smelt]

So I've just received the 2nd edition cards that's supposed to solve the issue with the misprinted bolts mixup between 1st and 2nd edition cards. Only to realise that the 1st edition Goo From Above expansion cards are also misprinted, but replacement for those weren't included, so from now it's gonna be the Goo Bomber and Menace cards that I'll be able to predict in the future as the next event/swarm 🥲

[royal nacelle]

Easy solution, mix up half and half of 1st and 2nd edition decks, you won't know what's what.

Alternatively, but 2nd ed Goo from Above.

But yeah, others have noted the same, suppose we'll have to see if they can send new cards out with the campaign, but I kinda doubt it at this point.

Opaque card sleeves are an option of course if you prefer sleeves, else always drawing card #2 from the deck, or from the bottom, for that matter, bit more hassle. Or 3d printed / crafted (or bought) deck holders.

[reef smelt]

I didn't back up this one, so I'm automatically out of that possibility then. Doubt they would be doing it for a whooping 4 cards tho.

[royal nacelle]

Even if they did, would you want to pay another €15 for shipping? xD

[reef smelt]

To be honest, they could probably just send it in an envelope with that amount of cards, which I doubt would ship for the same as that small box. But yeah, fair point either way.

[royal nacelle]

Tracked letters cost the same over here, seems to me like they have a minimum cost

[reef smelt]

I could fix the Event cards tho, cuz I can just shove an excess event card into the same sleeve, so the 2nd edition back is showing. But don't have excess swarm cards afaik

[royal nacelle]

I'm about to head off to pick up my cards, I'll see if I can come up with some sensible halfway solution

[reef smelt]

I ended up mixing the Swarm deck as roughly half 1st ED and 2nd ED, and ended up using 2 of the 3 excess cards of the event cards as a background for the Goo From Above event cards.

[mystic compass]

Nice. Would really like to print some normal and a golden lootbug. Gotta see if I can get my hands on the files.

[mystic compass]

Found the lootbug files in among the unsupported files, but not the supported

[ancient prawn]

99% of 3d printers use various different support and splicer programs, so the unsupported files are better, as it allows the software to determine how to best splice/support the object.

the 'supported' files are very restrictive in comparison

[mystic compass]

I'm completely fine with it, since I print in FDM

[humble roost]

Stupid questions for you lads, is there a link or website I can use to get the game?

The board game that is

[royal nacelle]

https://moodpublishing.com/collections/deep-rock-galactic

[humble roost]

@royal nacelle thank you very much, have a good Morning! 😃

[fair flame]

Well, I was camping over the weekend and completely forgot to back the expansion campaign. Am I out of luck? I'm sure it'll eventually be at retail, but am I completely locked out of this crowdfunding campaign now?

[royal nacelle]

You'll be able to late pledge bit later on, but I don't think you'll get any of the campaign exclusives. I may be wrong so keep an eye out on the late pledge either way.

Could still well be that the late pledges count for the exclusives, but I wouldn't want to get your hopes up if they end up not.

[ember ledge]

i'm still not happy with the decision to only buy one set of premium dice -.-

[royal nacelle]

Pledge manager my friend.

[ember ledge]

i hope my wallet wins against my brain 😄

i really wanna see how shipping and VAT turn out in the end before i pull the trigger. And even then, i should not 😄 but they might be awesome....

i hope they do not make a video of the dice ... that would set me right on buying them probably .D

[urban iron]

Dont understand why some people need a second set, like i sit next to the person im playing with so i just give them the dice they need

especially if it costs that money

[royal nacelle]

Second set? What barbarism is that? You need a set per player.

[fair flame]

Just an added convenience. Of course it isn't necessary, but not having to pass dice around the table when playing with 4 people is nice.

[royal nacelle]

Even nicer to have each weapon's dice on top of the weapon so you can quickly roll them, then return them to the weapon, rather than having to muck about looking for the dice combo you need.

[ember ledge]

darn.... premium dice on main weapon and regular dice on secondary weapon.... no Johnno, NO NO NO

[royal nacelle]

That's why you need extra sets bud

[humble roost]

People that have played the board game, which expansions have you found to be the best?

[royal nacelle]

Depends wildly on your definition of 'best'. There's no real answer as it's all very individual. A lot of people wanted Spacerig expansion for the assignment 'campaign' play, personally I've gotten more use I feel out of the 3rd primaries in the Biome expansion.

And I enjoy the different mission types for different reasons, On-site Refining for the building aspect, Escort for the 'drilldozer waits for no Dwarf' aspect, Dreadnought elimination for its more chaotic nature. And that's not even getting into Horrors and Rivals yet.

[humble roost]

Thanks for the guidance, I think I will end up copying you and getting the base game and the space rig expansion! I really wanted the bulk detonator expansion… but they are sold out :(

[urban iron]

True, but the biomes make even old missions feel fresh again in my opinion. If yuou want new enemies, go for that imo

[ornate dock]

Havn’t played it yet but the horror of hoxxes seems better than the biome

But spacerig is also really good since it add a lot of mission variety and a campaign mode

[humble roost]

Ended up grabbing the space rig and the additional biomes

Wanted the bulk det one but it looks like they are sold out :(

[ancient prawn]

message mood directly, as they might be able to do something for you or move stock around for a 1 off situation, instead of posting it on their website.

[e-mail]

[humble roost]

Oh thanks, that’s a good idea. I’ll reach out and see what they say!

[royal nacelle]

They'll be back in stock eventually, if not before January then at least then when the current Kickstarter batch arrives

[ornate dock]

Solid choice

[ornate dock]

That’s sad because it’s a really good expansion

It add another « oh shit » enemy which is really fun to deal with

[humble roost]

I read into it and I already LOVE the way the bulk detonator figure looks, OH? I can’t wait to find out

[tacit yew]

someone i play with is obsessed with the big bulging bubble on the bulk detonator

they really want to pop it

[humble roost]

I am the person >:)

[lime jungle]

DO NOT POP IT IT WILL LEAVE A SCAR!!!

[bright tartan]

Put a patch on top of it and let it rest overnight instead 👌
He turns back into a normal glyphid after

[timber snow]

i have some ideas for other primaries
for driller: corrosive sludge pump
now, for this one i had a bit of trouble thinking of what dice it would use, since fire and bullet dice are already used for primaries for driller, i thought; why not just do a mix between the 2?
so here's what i have
goop shot: roll 2 bullet and 1 fire dice, place 1 corrosive goop token under target (acts like fire token, as in it just deals 1 damage and goes away) R3
sludge charge: 2 actions, roll 2 fire and 1 bullet dice, place 3 corrosive goop tokens, 1 under target and 2 adjacent to eachother, R3

for engineer: LOK-1 smart rifle
single shot: roll 1 bullet dice, R6
lock on shot: 2 actions, roll 3 bullet dice, dice cannot miss (as in, any empty dice result will deal 1 bullet DMG instead) R4

for gunner: "hurricane" Guided Rocket System
rocket shots: roll 2 explosive dice, pick one, R4
guided rockets: roll 1 explosive dice, goes over stalagmites and other non-enemy obstacles, R5

for scout: DRAK-25 Plasma Carbine
continuous fire: roll 1 fire and 1 explosive dice, R4
overheat: roll 1 fire and 1 explosive dice, hits everything adjacent to you, R1

let me know how these look!

[royal nacelle]

Sludge Pump, Hurricane, and Plasma Carbine exist in the Biome expansion.

[timber snow]

wait really?

[royal nacelle]

And LOK-1 is a secondary that also exists.

[timber snow]

oh wow

[royal nacelle]

Engineer has Shard Diffractor

[timber snow]

i see

okay nice!

ima try saving up for that then, i wanna see those weapons compared to my idea!

jeez, this game is actually so fun, it gives me so many ideas that i wanna try

kinda like how i wanna do a rougelike mode for it

[ember ledge]

if you own the tabletopsimulator on steam, then you can checkout all the weapons from the previous expansions in there.

the comment section of the DRG:BG Tabletop simulator page makes it look like there might be an update for that at some point to include even the new expansions.

[timber snow]

hm, i do have it, but i prefer to play it irl, as well as support its creators

[ember ledge]

yeah but you can check out the weapons that are available in the expansion, if you want to see them.

[timber snow]

alright

[royal nacelle]

Could also grab the rulebooks on BGG

[ember ledge]

i didn't see pictures of the new weapons in a readable way in there (i thinked i checked Biome Expansion)

[royal nacelle]

The PDF is in hires so if you zoom in the pictures and text adjusts

That's from the PDF.

[ember ledge]

i must have been blind 😄

thanks

only saw them overlapping with not everything visisble when i went looking.

[ember ledge]

oh, i was looking at the secondaries in space rig

[ancient prawn]

do you want pictures of them? I can pull it from my shelf

[ember ledge]

thanks, but all good

[ember ledge]

<@&296918282403840000>

[lime jungle]

GAMERS

Out of all models which ONE is MOST EPIC? 😎

[tacit yew]

the variant of the grunt with his right arm in the air

[earnest jetty]

This looks cool- which rulebook was it from?

[tacit yew]

Biome expansion i think

[earnest jetty]

yep, found em in the rulebook there on BGG

altho the pdf file I found was in german so not suuuper clear on what they all do 😆

[cloud aurora]

Replacement cards arrived! It's kinda crazy how nicer the colours look on 2nd edition, the card grid is also less visible. Very happy with them.

Now I wonder, what to do with all these event cards? Has anyone mixed the two decks?

Also question, the goo from above cards will remain 1st edition? There are no replacements.

[urban iron]

Gotta say the dreadnought or bulk detonator

[royal nacelle]

Keep looking, there's an English version one.

[royal nacelle]

Not yet but I've been pondering getting a standard edition to double up on everything for ages, with the extra cards I can at least build my own deck if I want to.

[hollow crow]

For Goo from above are there actual second edition cards in existence they could send out, or is everyone stuck with mismatched?

[cloud aurora]

Don't know, maybe from a reprint of the expansion. I am fairly sure the whole replacement of the cards was for base game. But I feel that this is a bit of an overlook. Now we are stuck with two first edition event cards. Surely those should be included, it's just two cards. But oh well.

[hollow crow]

Well if there is a second edition set of cards I think they will send it, could just use an envelope for those few cards. I’m just wondering if it actually exists

[ember ledge]

there has been no mention of it.

[cloud aurora]

Some us received packs because we wanted replacements and mood used a survey for those who wanted them. Otherwise, they don't have any set available.

[rancid junco]

Ever wonder what the pink part tastes like

Looks like either a sound goo filled sweet or a sour gumball thing

[hollow crow]

I understand this, just got my own one but I’m just wondering if there are actually second edition cards in existence for the Goo From Above stuff. E.g are the people buying it from the Mood store now getting newer cards? If they are, there’s a chance we can ask Mood to post the missing cards so we have no mismatches on the card backs

[plush surge]

So, yesterday we had an interesting first turn

Engi was on her very first mission and never even saw a korlok in the videogame

And here comes my question: can Korlok sprouts and/or healing pods spawn inside the area protected by gunner’s shield or IFG grenade?

Cause we didn’t allow them to spawn in the free hexes when those two zones were active and covering said free hexes

[midnight maple]

Did they show a full image of bet c's cave segment?

I remember when they showed it on the bet c reveal it had some tiles covered

[royal nacelle]

Rulebook states "creatures can still spawn on a shielded space".

And Korlok parts can spawn outside the Korlok cave tile, if necessary.

[royal nacelle]

Yes. Update 12

[midnight maple]

No weapon upgrade? Aw man

[vale spindle]

If you send an email over to Mood they should be able to help you out with setting up a replacement deck order

[royal nacelle]

It's more the issue that we're not sure 2nd edition Goo from Above cards even exist. Someone also emailed and asked and then posted the response on Kickstarter, was basically told "we're only replacing base game cards, sorry for the inconvenience", so I don't think it'll happen.

[vale spindle]

Ah didnt realise it was regarding the goo from above ones, yeah saw they didnt have those included strangely

[royal nacelle]

I haven't gone to combine my decks yet, but I think there's surely some clever way to mix the decks so that you can't really be sure what's coming next, even if you know it's a 1st/2nd ed card.

Moreso I think some people mainly have an issue with "consistency", rather than actual gameplay impact. I've asked several times what the gameplay impact is of knowing it's a base game / expansion card, and not gotten an answer yet. Sat here pondering about it today again and particularly for Swarm cards it won't help you knowing which it is, your tactical decisions won't change since both 'decks' have creatures with similar effects (be it range, or move / attack).

It'd come down to some very specific setting of remembering what creatures have come and gone, and then sitting there figuring out what could remain, and even then you might as well just stay more than 5 tiles away from any exit to be safe.

[ancient prawn]

I mean... even if it's a base game vs expansion card, it's not like the game is a competitive one.

People often forget that the reason that there are rules against marked cards are for competitive advantage...

I get it though, uniformity is nice, but it's not necessary from a rules perspective, since there's no advantage to be had from the knowledge of the cards in the deck.

[royal nacelle]

Yeah I think some people simply overemphasize the "knowing" part, feeling that it removes some of the anticipation because they know it's a base/expansion creature. With the new cards though we can mix up the swarm deck that some of the base game creatures also have expansion edition cards.

[ancient prawn]

what do you mean, like a blender model?

[royal nacelle]

Missed it, literally, by the second. Iwas told 35 minutes

[ancient prawn]

O.O

[royal nacelle]

Yes, a 3d full blender model, available for Tabletop Sim, or 3d printing

I made the offer, got upset that nobody replied, and was told leave it up for 35 minutes...

[ancient prawn]

dang it

anyway, i sent you a DM with a screenshot, i can send you more if you want

[lime jungle]

Pulling two creature pile up cards, one after the other

You've hit the nest

[proven saffron]

they stack?

[lime jungle]

If you have the replacement deck I guess you can combine and make them stackable

[proven saffron]

There is a mission with a mission specific event which is basically creature pileup but me and my friends didn't make them stack. I forget if it mentions that in the mission book

I think its mission 14

[lime jungle]

It says it increases the swarm tracker instead if there is already a pile up

[proven saffron]

That seems right for the mission

[lime jungle]

But why not? Maybe I wanna fight the swarm

[proven saffron]

Yeah that sounds fun

Idk if im bad at the board game but the board game seems pretty hard as it is

still haven't beat mission 14

main mission book

[lime jungle]

I find the game a bit easier with less dwarves

[proven saffron]

It probably is

Ive only played with 3-4 dwarves

[lime jungle]

You get to move more often so you're not left in bad positions

You can have a bunch of grunts follow you and not able to attack you for most of the time

[timber snow]

hey chat why is shipping for deep rock stuff like 50% of the orginal price?

[lime jungle]

Because fuel aint cheap

[timber snow]

i wanted to get the tyrant weed for like 30$...but now i have to spend 62$

[lime jungle]

I mean are you kidding? Almost $2aud/L these days??

[timber snow]

does it look like im made out of money?

[lime jungle]

When you think about it, yes

Your kidneys will sell nicely

jks don't sell your kidneys

[timber snow]

even in real life this plant that i fucking hate is taking my worldly possessions

[proven saffron]

Try looking at gamenerdz im pretty sure they got shipping sorted out and if you spend 75$ you get free shipping.

it took me months to get my stuff shipped though

but i think they got their stock

the games and expansions are also cheaper there

[timber snow]

okay thanks!

[lime jungle]

Anyone know where to get cheap shock collars in aus?

[timber snow]

damn.

[lime jungle]

I think it might elevate the gameplay a little

[proven saffron]

which one is that?

oh biome

I bought all the drg bg stuff they had in feburary and just received them last month

that was preorder

[timber snow]

you know, if shipping isnt too much for mood publishing, i can get it off their

but it has to be like...19$ or less...

[proven saffron]

https://www.gamenerdz.com/deep-rock-galactic-the-board-game-2nd-edition-biome-expansion the brand new condition biome expansion is in stock

the one you wer looking at was "ding and dent"

Which im assuming is slightly damaged

[timber snow]

OMG THANK YOU.

SHIPPING 6$ IN THIS ECONOMY!?
WHAT A DEAL!

it will arrive.

in 6 days.

[ancient prawn]

your mileage may vary with gamenerdz, be aware.

some people have reported issues with them.

[proven saffron]

It should be safer now that is out of preorder

But I had to wait months for mine in preorder

It shipped as soon as it got out of preorder

[timber snow]

hey so! where can i buy more of those health cubes that board game has?
is it part of the tokens bundle in the mood publishing store?

[royal nacelle]

No, they're not tokens. You can look for 8mm acrylic cubes on Amazon or something I'm sure, or check your local game stores.

[timber snow]

alright! thanks!

hold on, does the biome expansion give you any of those health cubes?

[royal nacelle]

No

[timber snow]

darn

okay then!

[royal nacelle]

Why do you need extras?

[timber snow]

well, since im playing the game with others, i might lose some later on, better to be prepared incase i do

[scarlet narwhal]

I ended up losing a cube randomly and ended up buying a pack of 50 cubes on amazon. They were a little bit larger than the cubes that the game comes with but they ended up being a perfect fit in the dwarf player boards

[timber snow]

i see

[proven saffron]

I think the base game has 5 extra so you should be fine

[scarlet narwhal]

space rig also has an additional 5 that are meant for the Escort Duty missions

[midnight maple]

My friends and I use one cube and one ammo token of each type for each player when we play and we just move them to the appropriate levels. It's less flashy than the intended way, but it's way more tidy and helps with not losing them

[somber hemlock]

I have some 12mm green D6's that I started using to track creature health instead of the provided green cubes. It's a lot more convenient for tracking the health of the bigger creature imo.

[vestal orbit]

Hey,

Does anyone knows if there is a pledge manager in preview ?
I would love to get the expansions

[ember ledge]

there will be a pledge manager, but if it will be accessible without even a 1€ contribution to the kickstarter campaign is currently unkown., i don't know

[vestal orbit]

Oh s****
I hope it is. I have the base board game and would love all the xpac

[royal nacelle]

You'll have to wait for late pledge to open up

[upbeat oasis]

I think you get one for the dreadnought and for space rig you get 5 for the drilldozer

[tacit yew]

drilldozer gives you 5 yeah

[vestal orbit]

Are we sure there is gonna be one ?

[royal nacelle]

Yes

[upbeat oasis]

Does anyone think there's a possibility of the deep scan mission type being added to the board game
I'm just wondering since as of now that's the only mission type exclusive to the video game
I do see how it may not be feasible with the whole drillevator and geode sequence

[scarlet narwhal]

i could see them adding it in a future expansion by having the drillevator/morkite geode being a seperate, smaller game board and using the same special event deck mechanic that they do for escort duty for instance

or could have that second board have a track like the swarm threat track but its for drillevator progress instead

[sweet jewel]

What color should I paint the grenades?

[lime jungle]

If you're going for the default board game art look I think they're gunmetal grey with a strap in the middle

But you can even have fun with some more vibrant colors to give the mini a little more "pop"

[sweet jewel]

just anything that doesn't look too out of place. I'd like it close to OG as you can see, but idk if like black, grey or what

[lime jungle]

Even purple can pose as plasma burster grenades or something

Or a glowy green if you want them to be like fat boy mini nukes

Looking at the cover art they're grey. But broken up with an orangy-brown strap, more vibrant than the leather on his uniform

Going by the character board as well

[scarlet narwhal]

could base it off of a weapon skin that you like

[sweet jewel]

Thanks for the options.

[scarlet narwhal]

from the video game

[sweet jewel]

yeah, maybe i should look at some, because idk what to do for the gun either, but I kinda want a "stock" look for these

[scarlet narwhal]

here is the default look too, its got a few different colors

a dark green, a kinda bone/tan color, and a dark and light grey

[sweet jewel]

hmm, thanks. I might keep the darker "lame" look, but go for something black or grey because I don't want to mix green with my engineer. I want to kind of keep them color coordinated for playing. I plan to do the turret red too even though I think that's green in the game

[scarlet narwhal]

https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Weapon_Cosmetics#Engineer_Weapon_Skin_Gallery this page on the wiki also has images of every weapon skin/framework for all weapons so you can look at this too

[sweet jewel]

this google search image is kinda nice

[scarlet narwhal]

I did my turret red as well to match Engi's color

[lime jungle]

the mk2 looks a little different but is red

[scarlet narwhal]

and if you wanted to do red colors to match engi himself, you could go with the color scheme of the "Deep Sea Defender" or "Salt Crystal" skins

[sweet jewel]

actually, i think i might do the gun like how i just posted. I think i have a metallic bronze that might give me the pipes look, and i can do some kind of grey/silver for the gun itself. Grenades I will probably still keep kinda plain

[sweet jewel]

oh, yeah, that's an option. I might do that, thanks for the tip

[scarlet narwhal]

np

[lime jungle]

You could even have varying colors for your grenades, indicating as HE and AP rounds

[sweet jewel]

thanks, trying to keep the differing colors to a minimum though to really emphasize the RED player

but i guess i could just paint the ridge of the base RED too for that

Thanks y'all. I think I have some ideas that should help!

[lime jungle]

keen to see the end result

[urban iron]

I was thinking about that too, maybe an altitude bar that goes down, and along the track you get different events

[midnight maple]

I think a corestone mission could also be done and simpler to pull off

Objective: find and destroy the corestone
Use pickaxe or any tool that can dig to start the fight. 15 health and can only be damaged once per turn like the dreadnaught. At the end of each turn while the corestone is active, instead of drawing event cards, you draw unique swarm cards that spawn corespawn enemies from special tunnel exits/ a certain distance from the corestone

[royal nacelle]

Reckon you could rather have phases like in the video game, to set it apart, and require pickaxe hits inbetween the different health phases. And no limitation of damage per turn, but more health than 5 per phase.

One attack per turn is a fair enough mechanic to extend the fight but it'd be nice to have something else to set it apart.

[midnight maple]

That is true, but I think that doing it in phases would allow a gunner with a minigun to just dump all his ammo to clear a phase

Or even 2 phases if he's in melee range to break it again

[royal nacelle]

Make it resistant to bullets. Easy fix.

[midnight maple]

weapon upgrades

[royal nacelle]

Hell, make it immune to bullet damage.

[midnight maple]

I've had a game where the gunner had the piercing and explosives upgrades on the minigun. I know what the bugs fear now

[royal nacelle]

Can make it require more than a single pickaxe hit, even three, for that matter. That way it'll be very unlikely (but possible due to good rolling and R&S card for example) that a gunner can do more than one phase.

[midnight maple]

Could work

[royal nacelle]

Yep but there are plenty of weapons that you can pimp out with double dice that'll end up doing massive damage. It's unlikely though, especially if you don't put in heaps of hidden caves.

[midnight maple]

Oh no it was the last stage of a deep dive

[royal nacelle]

You can't really balance missions for the last stage of a deep dive. Even a dreadnought can be taken down in 2 turns at that point.

[midnight maple]

I guess

[royal nacelle]

I've done enough playing/testing to know that weapon upgrades can immensely change a fight, but you also can't balance for the top end of that, because then Dwarves without upgrades with struggle heavily.

[midnight maple]

Then making the corestone immune to bullet would be a bad idea no?

That would make a good amount of secondary weapons useless

[royal nacelle]

No, it would just specifically limit the minigun. And secondary/primary balance is always there so that you pick different damage types. Your secondary will be perfectly useful the rest of the mission.

Making the corestone take 3 pickaxe hits between phases would extend the fight plenty, and then if minigunner can't take out a whole phase on their own by default then that's a good start. Or hell could make it have 10 health per phase and let the minigunner go nuts, spending their 5 ammo to on average take out a phase.

[midnight maple]

When i finally have free time I'll think of some ideas

[sweet jewel]

Idk how I feel about my color choice for the gun but here he is

It's a different shade of red so differentiate the shirt and gun being different materials

The turret will be the same colorway as the gun

[lime jungle]

I think it looks sick

[sweet jewel]

Thanks. First time painter

[lime jungle]

If you're unsure about the gun color, maybe making the metallic layers of the gun darker would help break it up from the rest of the uniform

Either with a dark metallic or even a wash maybe

[sweet jewel]

This is more of what it looks like in person. A bit darker. Not as vibrant as previous pic

[sweet jewel]

That's a good idea. Im kinda just using whatever the army painter mega set has, but I might order some more in the future before I seal them up with spray

[lime jungle]

Citadel Nuln Oil can help make the layer shaded and a little darker

But if you want the "oldskool nuln oil" before they changed their formula, I recommend Oblivion Black Wash by Two Thin Coats

A little more expensive, but it's much darker and near identical to the old nuln oil finish

[sweet jewel]

As a really new painter, I wouldn't know the difference 😅

[lime jungle]

That's fair. Experiment a little and choose what you think is best. TTC is a more expensive brand, so you might think that a cheaper option will work better for you

So far it's looking good 👍

[scarlet narwhal]

very nice, love that shade of red

[nimble shale]

Hold on, do you paint every figure by yourself?

[sweet jewel]

I will be. This is my second one. Well, I tried like a year ago and was upset with the outcome, but since then I learned some things to try. This and the web spitters are basically my first 2 paint jobs I've done.

I plan to paint the whole set.

[nimble shale]

That looks… incredible…

[sweet jewel]

That actually means a lot since I've seen a lot before trying this, and have commented the same thing on some reddit posts I've seen for this game.

I'm happy to say I'm satisfied so far with the finished paintjob and hope the rest that I do come close.

Thank you

[sweet jewel]

I was never an artist before by any means. So if that's any encouraging for other new painters to try it, go for it!

[sweet jewel]

The gun's red is slaughter red army painter speedpaint and the clothing red is poppy red army painter speedpaint

[sweet jewel]

A turret to match the gun:

[solar basin]

Hi chat

[scarlet narwhal]

Got a quick thing i'd like some opinions on; Bosco's Rocket Launcher attack in the rulebook states "activating the rocket launcher uses up both of BOSCO's actions", which is a contrast to the wording of the secondary fire of the M1000 and Thunderhead, which REQUIRES 2 actions to use. My question is, with the wording of the rocket launcher, do you think that it needs both actions to use it like the mentioned weapons, or do you think it simply ends Bosco's turn even if it has not done anything else?

[royal nacelle]

Uses 2 actions. Can't use both actions if you've already done something, and doing anything once you've already done an action would end the turn.

[scarlet narwhal]

thats what I figured. reread the part about bosco recently because i've been playing solo more and needed a reminder on bosco's actions and I wasn't entirely sure which way it goes with the wording

[steel wasp]

Probably an old question but going through my collection amd couldnt remember...these cards are misprinted right? As in it dosnt have their special rules on them?

[royal nacelle]

Nope

[steel wasp]

So where were the missing rules meant to be found?

[royal nacelle]

https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/283811/goo-from-above-creature-info-sheet

[steel wasp]

Yeh got those so I was never missing anything from my GFA expansiom then?

[royal nacelle]

1st edition came with that sheet, but it was for whatever reason (some sort of mistake) left out from 2nd ed when the creature data cards were introduced (instead of everyone getting both). For now they've uploaded it to BGG and I'm not sure if it'll ever be fixed.

If you got 2nd ed GfA then yeah it was just the creature cards, event/swarm cards, and goo tokens + miniatures.

[steel wasp]

Ahh right got you that makes more sense now as my copy of core game is 2nd edition with the other enemy cards 👍 thanks

[royal nacelle]

The creature cards were only intended as quick reference so many of them don't have full rules, or even abbreviated rules, as those are in the rulebooks.

[ember ledge]

i am considering printing a small sticker with the creature sheet text on them that fits those cards

[timber snow]

chat i won. i won against the dreadnought in a solo+bosco mission.
the fight was like an anime fight, bosco died (from reviving me) and i was 1 hit away from death, until i positioned myself correctly, and as the engineer, i had the shard diffractor with a flame dice upgrade, and the dreadnouhgt had 5 HP left, then i said "throughout the caves of hoxxis...i alone am the engineer...internal combustion." and i rolled a 6 on my damage result, winning aginst it

that felt great

i started that fight with full health and almost full ammo too

i had to resupply during the middle of it

(which i dont know if this is how im meant to do it, but i use 1 action resupplying every time)

im telling you, today my engineer has suffered through a total war, losing bosco and almost dying multiple times during that fight

[earnest jetty]

Congrats on that win!

[midnight maple]

Ggs!

[timber snow]

hey would anyone wanna play the board game with me?
i mean in like a VC with my phone as a camera (as i just wanna play it irl instead of on tabletop sim)

[proven saffron]

No late pledge for the new expansions :/

[warm thunder]

But that means we're seeing the physical delivery of the game literally over half a year sooner. Not complaining!

[proven saffron]

Oh really

Nice

[warm thunder]

Yup! Q1 2026. Normally we'd be waiting a full year (or longer), but that's not the case this time around.

[ember ledge]

i'm hyped

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moodpublishing/deep-rock-galactic-rivals-and-horrors-of-hoxxes/posts/4457746
for anyone curious

[ruby pilot]

can anyone remember the shipping of previous game and expansions ?
in my pledge manager it estimates the shipping more expensive then the actual tier 4 deluxe expansion set (im in canada)
that can't be right ?

[royal nacelle]

It's not right no, the campaign main page has the shipping estimates. Kickstarter's own estimates are wildly inaccurate.

[ruby pilot]

do you know where ? i can't find this info

[royal nacelle]

sent you the image

[midnight maple]

Where's the shipping survey they mentioned?

[ember ledge]

Afaik it is part of the pledgemanager they will unlock next week

It will then give you the exact shipping and vat you will be charged. The vat part only works if in the vat friendly regions. Otherwise customs will probably take care of that after shipping.

[steel wasp]

Playing the game and struggling to find the Special event card symbol in order to see how many I need in event deck...can anyone help?

[royal nacelle]

Sounds like you're using a pre-release rulebook.

That was removed before version 1 (1st edition) was released

[steel wasp]

Makes sense I was cross referencing the pdf rulebook so it must be out of date thanks 👍

[royal nacelle]

Depends which PDF you referenced, 1st edition was uploaded to Board Game Geek when the game was released, and then 2nd edition was uploaded as well. So yes, if you're using the pre-release PDF that was uploaded to the original kickstarter, over 3 years ago, then yes it's out of date since they can't update it.

Would make sense for you to go grab the newest edition, or same edition as the physical rulebook you have.

[warm thunder]

Finally got to painting again, decided to get my Goo From Above done.

The extra shell on the Goo Bomber was a curious piece - doesn't exist in the video game - so I gave it a little carapace design for funzies.

[ornate dock]

They look really good, you did a great job at preserving the details

[hidden lava]

Finally open-sourced my DRG Dice project:
https://github.com/UnforeseenOcean/DRG-Dice/tree/main

All you need is one of those display shields, and adjust the parameter accordingly.
Ones with icons at the bottom are most likely using the older driver (use the version for that display in Prefab folder.)
If you don't see purple hue in black screen, it is using ILI9341 panel, and you can use MCUFriend version.

Important note: For you to use ESP32 Arduino board that is shaped exactly like an Arduino Uno, you need to patch two to three wires to one another.
Supported boards: Arduino Uno, Arduino Leonardo, ESP32ino (Lolin D1 R32)

[ornate dock]

What is the putpose of this ?

[hidden lava]

It is for the on-the-go gaming initially, but it can be used to add more dice if desired

I mostly made it as a demo

[wise copper]

I've been thinking about getting this game but I was wondering is it possible to get all the components for the expansions seperately and then just 3d print the minis?

[royal nacelle]

No that's not possible. You can get partway with acrylic tokens and STL files but you wouldn't have the cards and cave tiles, or the spacerig assignment board, etc.

[wise copper]

🙁

It'd be nice if it was an option. I'm buying the standard edition and the stl files to save some money so I kinda wish I could do the same for the expansions

[midnight maple]

@royal nacelle how did you make your custom models? Did you extract them from the video game?

[royal nacelle]

Yup. There's a few custom parts I've made myself here and there, and used some other models as well (like the Goblins), but mostly DRG files

[midnight maple]

How do you extract/where do you find them?

I want to make a corestone and (if they exists) curst models and rift to use for ideas of the corestone mission

[royal nacelle]

You need a model viewer/extractor, there's a guide on Steam as I recall

[midnight maple]

On the drg forums?

[royal nacelle]

no in the guides section

[midnight maple]

The one by true winger?

[warm thunder]

Bulk detonator was a surprisingly fun paint!

[wise copper]

so I got the STLs off of the kickstarter page. Is this going to actually be delivered to me?

I feel like I might be a little late

[ancient prawn]

the email with the link was sent out quite a bit back... email mood support to get a new link

[warm thunder]

I recently contacted support to get new links to the STLs, and they responded within 24 hours. Just hit them up and they'll hook you up.

[barren quartz]

Gamegenic makes a pretty decent organizer to fit all the base game tokens & such

[proven saffron]

Is there stls for that?

[timber snow]

hey, can i buy any of those miniatures online? specifically the turret one?
i dont have a 3D printer so i cant print them out
the reason why i want another turret is because i have this cool idea for extended play character upgrades, where the engineer can choose to be able to place down another turret, or upgrade his current one

[proven saffron]

If you have the stl I can print you one for a few bucks plus shipping

im guessing around 10$ total (if you live in the US)

[hushed lodge]

I haven't looked, but if you dunno how to CAD then this is a great exercise as a beginner to learn how to use CAD software. Each box is like a 1 - 2 minute job in Fusion.

[barren quartz]

That’s a cool idea

[lime jungle]

You might be lucky to find somewhere/someone who can print for you

I know of at least one store near me where I can print off of a usb with the stl files

I think they even offer prep like sanding and base coat

[proven saffron]

Yeah it won’t take long to model I’m just lazy

[timber snow]

about that, where can i buy the stl files at? i tried looking online, but i couldnt find the official ones to buy, are those kickstarter exclusives?

[proven saffron]

https://drg-expansions.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders/571913

I’m pretty sure this is it

[bright tartan]

Could it be that it will be these files ? Or is probably justthe plastic box to hold the cans like in the promotional video ?

I didnt see any other announcment on it

[ancient prawn]

wut?

[bright tartan]

I was wondering if the 3D files included in the Molly plushie from the kickstarter could be including some for minis, since they didnt give any more infos on it
And thought that maybe someone here could know :/

[royal nacelle]

lizarddoggo has nothing to do with the board game.

[bright tartan]

Good to know, thanks!

[ember ledge]

Satisfactory board game incomming /s

[wise copper]

When 3d printing is it common for some of the smaller limb pieces of the bugs to not come out right? I've had a couple now missing a piece of their leg

[royal nacelle]

Can depend a lot on your printer, its settings, and if you're resin printing then stuff like temperature and resin used. Print failures are common enough, it'll be something you have to troubleshoot and doublecheck supports, adding extra if needed.

[wise copper]

okay it just weirds me out because it's like, consistently 1 leg every time

[royal nacelle]

I can't recall any of mine failing

[wise copper]

maybe there's something at the bottom of my vat

[proven saffron]

If you are using a FDM printer consider using a smaller nozzle

Nvm

[wise copper]

resin printer yeah

[midnight maple]

Is the pledge manager open?

[steel wasp]

Here to ask same as ive recieved no email or anything yet (UK based)

[ember ledge]

The waiting game 😅 I'm sooo close to losing that

[royal nacelle]

Few more hours.. few more.

[ember ledge]

i might have to put the refresh key on F4 to not destroy my F5 key.

[proven saffron]

Wait will I receive an email if I used the apple private relay email when making my kickstarter account

I think it only forwards email directly from kickstarter

[royal nacelle]

Might not then since it's not coming from Kickstarter, but Backerkit.

I recall there were issues previously with Apple account signups

[ember ledge]

It has shown to have arrived as it would from a backerkit domain

Not sure if there has been any other email kongfu involved

But usually there is a point where they say, everyone should have gotten it, reach out if you didn't. So far they tell us to wait, so we are Gucci until then and just have to wait

[royal nacelle]

Update #12 in the previous campaign has someone asking about their survey, and Sharon responds that it was an issue with them using apple ID to log into Kickstarter so Backerkit doesn't have a valid email address to send the survey.

[ember ledge]

But yeah no reason to panic, could be fixed by now

Also mood will know

[proven saffron]

Hope it isn’t too big of an issue

[hollow socket]

I’m sorry if I missed the announcement, but is the Pledge Manager up and available?

[ember ledge]

emails are getting send out. some received the mail, the rest is still waiting. Mood said to give it a bit more time (another 19h was from their last comment post on the last update)

[hollow socket]

Thank you!

[royal nacelle]

*Few more hours ( 24)

[ember ledge]

glad they are aware of the problem 🙂

[median ice]

Ramming speed!

[signal raven]

Egg retrieving missions, I'm trying to find info on it in the multiple books, so far the only thing I find says : the grunts are very protective of them.

So when you collect an egg grunts appears or what?

Ok got it nvm. 2 dices per tunnel exit. 1 grunt per !

[upbeat oasis]

i think me and my friend might volunteer for the stand in philly
i go to the convention every year and i know all of the rules to the game by heart

[lime jungle]

Love the colours on this one

[spiral belfry]

Managed to get in really fast, lol

[warm thunder]

Got mine tackled just a minute ago as well.

[muted wadi]

Can anyone explain to me why vat+ vat shipping is 42 euros for the uk

[royal nacelle]

Depends what you ordered.

[ember ledge]

vat is taxes. So taxes + shipping

[muted wadi]

was just shocked at it thats all, forgot about vat costs

being stupid

[ember ledge]

taxes are always excluded from the kickstarter campaigns i did. Quite annoying that kickstarter has this externally

but mood shipping graphic at least mentioned it as clearly as possible (even though you got to understand there are taxes on top to get it)

[royal nacelle]

Cost of your order, add shipping cost, then multiply by whatever tax rate you have.. 20% is quite normal.

[muted wadi]

yeah

[royal nacelle]

So €42 is bang on the money for a collector's bundle I'm guessing with shipping added.

[muted wadi]

yup

clearly been drinking too many blackout stouts at the Abyss bar

[rain escarp]

Shipping paid

[proven saffron]

Didn’t get an email 😔

[urban iron]

53 euros for me in the Netherlands

[warped geyser]

187 to Poland 💀

[tidal shore]

O.o I guess they will send it in golden helicopter directly to your house

[warped geyser]

They better

It's gonna be a huge package. All-in bundle

[barren quartz]

Some artistic liberties taken to differentiate these from the spitball infectors

[kindred gale]

Can someone explain how is this calculated? It seems so random

Shipping should be 83 but total is 112. Why

[royal nacelle]

There's VAT on shipping, and VAT on your product. So you need to pay 28.5+77.05+6.56

Your VAT is 23%, so you can calculate it all by checking your product plus shipping cost, and then multiplying by 0.23, to get only the VAT (which is VAT + VAT for shipping). Then add your shipping cost.

Or to make it more clear, (185 + 150)x0.23 = 77.05. And 28.5x0.23 = 6.56.
And 28.5+77.05+6.56 = 112.11

So not at all random.

[warm thunder]

I just painted mine as well! Your contrast is insanely impressive.

My goal was to unify the look across all plant parts, and I took some inspiration from the board game art. I'm unsure if I should gloss or matte finish.

[verbal aurora]

questions about the upcoming expansion:

1. it says the pledge manager is open from now to Sept. 15th, but isnt given to anyone until payments are fully processed. Pledge Over Time will complete on October 1st. do i just not get the option to give details on october or no?
2. if no, how do i adjust my pledge to just pay full now/before the end of of the pledge manager.

[royal nacelle]

1. Straight from the update: "People who do Pledge Over Time will have access to Pledge Manager starting October 1. You will have at least two weeks to complete it and add products."

So TL;DR - You'll have to wait until October 1st, then you can use the pledge manager.

2. There's no "pay in full" function.

[verbal aurora]

oh okay, was stressed for a second there :P

[upbeat oasis]

I'm thinking of getting the acrylic pieces and mixed mission book

[warm thunder]

As an owner of both, I am very pleased with both.

I like all the missions MOOD created, and the acrylic tokens are wonderfully tactile and far more durable. That said, they are slightly darker than their cardboard counterparts. I personally think it goes even better with the stylization but it is subjective.

[upbeat oasis]

Thanks for the recommendation! :)

[lime jungle]

I found that I got a couple spare token bits from both releases. Unsure if it's intentional or if it was a mistake

Honestly can't tell you if I prefer the acrylic or cardboard more. They both have a unique feel to them that I like

[royal nacelle]

Was intentional, as everyone seemingly got the same spares.

[wise copper]

are they ever going to release stuff like the corrupted robot or these cards for people who didn't back the kickstarter? it feels a little icky to me to lock gameplay behind something like that

[royal nacelle]

They haven't in the past released KS exclusives afterwards, so who knows. "Ever" is a long time, but at least for now they're exclusives.

[wise copper]

There were others??

[royal nacelle]

the coins, metal mug, dwarf statue, even though they're not gameplay elements many have asked to be able to get them after the previous campaigns, and MOOD have said no.

There is a card from SPIEL ESSEN that's exclusive as well, and a mission.

[wise copper]

doo-dads im okay with being exclusive but idk

this is gonna sound entitled but i feel like im missing out on parts of the game cause i didn't know about this until after the kickstarter ended

[royal nacelle]

You simply have to want them more than someone else, and offer them something to get theirs. I helped someone track down the 1st coin, 3 years after its release, so not like it's impossible.

If anything, now is a good time to start asking around, I've seen some mentioning that they don't care for the exclusives and only wanted certain other things.

[wise copper]

maybe the barrel flicking thing sure but actual gameplay stuff?

[royal nacelle]

Some have sold their entire collections before, exclusives and all, so yeah I wouldn't be surprised

[warm thunder]

For some reason I thought that mission was made public somewhere. I have not seen the card nor the mission, though.

I am, however, one of the few collector backers who has literally everything else.

[scarlet narwhal]

the card is a beer card for the space rig expansion. IIRC its effect is that any time a dwarf kills a grunt with melee, all grunts adjacent to that dwarf suffer the fear effect

[royal nacelle]

It was sent out as a pdf during the previous campaign, from what I recall.

[warm thunder]

Hmm...maybe I do have it somewhere then.

Thanks for the info.

[ember ledge]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moodpublishing/deep-rock-galactic-space-rig-and-biome-expansions/posts/3929152
Made public here, in update #5

[warm thunder]

"Automatically added to every expansion pledge."

[royal nacelle]

I'd have to dig through my emails, but it wasn't a physical addition at least. Just don't recall how it was sent, if there was a download page or email attachment.

[warm thunder]

It will likely be a later distribution thing. Perhaps when we get the new STL files, for example.

[ember ledge]

Oh it might have been an email or so. I thought that was all, but yeah there's must have been more to it

[ebon flicker]

Yeeted

[wise copper]

I didn't back it 😔

[royal nacelle]

It's just a mission, they're a dime a dozen, and you can even just replicate it from the image posted on KS

[wise copper]

oh i thought this was referring to all the other stuff

[royal nacelle]

Which part are you having trouble with?

[warm thunder]

Homebrew missions are a ton of fun, too. The rules they set are good, but it's also fun to bend those rules for either ease or challenge.

[royal nacelle]

I've played a lot of mission combining mission specific events from official missions with a custom map

[dire raptor]

What ere the cave exits without a number supposed to do?

[royal nacelle]

They spawn creatures (mainly grunts?) whenever a card says "all other exits" or "nearest exit"

or exit closest to a dwarf, and so on.

They're tunnel exits, without a number, treat them as such exactly as cards say.

[dire raptor]

Cool

[hollow crow]

those extra exits can be brutal if you land up opening one early

The extra enemies really add up

[median ice]

Mission 14 complete last night! Got VERY spicy at the end.

[sweet jewel]

Why is there no bundle for cheaper plastic tokens in the backerkit survey of the KS, but the late preorder page has a cheaper bundle? I'm paying more for being a backer.
25 euros vs. 32 euros

[ancient prawn]

You're paying more, but you're also getting it sooner.

Late pre-orders only get fulfilled after all backers have been processed

[ember ledge]

i'm kinda sad i can't even look at the pledge manager stuff yet without having done all 3 payment installments

[ancient prawn]

i'm in the same boat right now

[ember ledge]

it is just being impatient without any reason 😄 Still a hard life we have to endure

[royal nacelle]

Different production run now, plus the price was for last campaign. Prices of stuff go up over time. If anything they shouldve closed the old backerkit store, since Im not sure they can adjust anything there.

They're producing hundreds of sets instead of thousands so costs will be different, plus a couple percent inflation etc.

[ember ledge]

is it even still possible to do late orders there?

[royal nacelle]

I've no idea, either they're tied to the same warehouse as MOOD has for their webstore, or they're a separate warehouse that still have stock. Considering how long it's been I don't think so though, other than the STL files I think.

[barren quartz]

Does anybody know if there’s reference art for how the Biome Expansion crystals should look?

[royal nacelle]

Only the ingame images;

[barren quartz]

Is that really what these crystals are supposed to be? The models pretty different but I guess the biome matches

[royal nacelle]

What else would they be?

Both their name and function matches what are effectively the only crystals in Azure Weald, at least as far as my memory serves me.

[midnight maple]

In their defense, making a plain rock pillar wouldn't be the most interesting thing in a board game with a ton of eye catching pieces

Considering the models come uncolored, the most detail they could do is lines going across the rock to imitate the glowing cracks

[barren quartz]

Fair enough, that makes sense

[ancient prawn]

I thought those were the chrystaline caverns crystals

[royal nacelle]

electrocrystals and crystalline caverns lighting crystals are coming in Horrors of Hoxxes

[barren quartz]

Oh yeah that’s what had me confused. Thanks!

[ancient prawn]

ah

[barren quartz]

Unrelated, the dense biozone ground tiles in the board game don’t really look at all like the biome in-game

I can see the inspiration but I wish it were a bit closer

[royal nacelle]

Last time someone said that it turned out they were thinking about Fungus Bogs. You sure you got the right biome in mind?

[barren quartz]

Yes, I am sure

[royal nacelle]

Certainly looks something like Dense Biozone.

[barren quartz]

Like I said. I can see the inspiration but it’s not exactly a direct recreation.

[royal nacelle]

Very little in the board game is a direct recreation.

[barren quartz]

We can have different opinions on this, that’s okay. I don’t intend for this to become an argument. This is much further removed than, say, sandblasted corridors or than fungus bogs from their video game counterparts

Visually the dense biozone tiles read, to me, as if they’re either glowing or lit by a very bright light overhead. It’s an odd look for a cave and more abstract in presentation than many of the other biomes.

Obviously I wouldn’t advocate for the board game to have overly moody lighting, my observation is more that the colors just seem unnaturally bright.

[royal nacelle]

If you look at the first campaign's images the base game cave tiles are a lot brighter too, as best I can tell they're 3d renders and not actual images of the physical product. So you may well be exaggerating the colour differences.

[barren quartz]

Maybe so but I’m not exaggerating anything, just describing the images MOOD themselves uploaded lol

The image we can see doesn’t have a hint of green hue to it, which I only care about because I (subjectively, it’s worth noting) like the greens of the actual Dense Biozone. Bright cyan or dull cyan, it’s still cyan in the pictures and I don’t think that’s changing in the final prints, unfortunately.

[lime jungle]

The board game looks brighter than the video game. I kinda see the cyans matching where the flares are placed. After all, shadows and darkness play a big part in the video game

[hollow socket]

I have a silly question. What is the best way for me to go about protecting the player boards? I was playing a game with my brother when I dropped some condensation on my engi player board.

I hoped that I got to it, but the top layer flaked away when I wiped up the drop exposing the cardboard below.

[barren quartz]

It’s haven’t done this for the DRG components yet so I can’t vouch for the results, but a couple coats of varnish would probably be your best bet

[barren quartz]

True, yeah I agree with both points. My personal preference would just be to have more of the green we see in the actual game

[barren quartz]

I also saw some people recommend using Modge Podge Dimensional Magic for board game tokens. Could work pretty nicely if you're like me and don't yet have the acrylics

Either way let us know what you end up using! I'm curious to see what works best on the player boards

[delicate seal]

welp, 1st swarm triggered and I get this big guy, wish me luck.

and I have the lethal enemies activated

[delicate seal]

For deep pit spaces, can I throw a grenade in them and still trigger the effect? Or is it lost?

[lime jungle]

The grenade will still work in pits

[royal nacelle]

I would rather go the route of "no drinks or food at the table" and washing of hands prior to play, rather than trying to varnish the parts. If you do intend to go down a varnishing route make sure you test it out first, hopefully you have kept the edges of the punch out boards for example, those would be good to test on to see the finish and if there's any warping or whatnot.

[proven saffron]

My Korlok hidden cave tile is scratched on the back and it is now obvious knowing if it was pulled. Is there any good way to remove or hide the scratch so it isn’t obvious which hidden cave is korlok

[urban iron]

scratch the other ones

nah dont do that

[ancient prawn]

You could use a regular, standard hidden cave segment as a "place holder" and when you reveal the cave, you pull the tile, put it in a bag with the rest of the tiles, mix them up, and pull one at random

or cut out a piece of paper the size of the tile, do the same with all the other secret tiles, and "re-back" all of them so they're uniform again...

you could combine the two ideas and cut out a paper template of the secret tile, label it for reveal (similar to the screenshot above) and then when you reveal it, pull a random secret tile from a bag to place it on the gameboard.

imo, option 3 seems like the more "elegant" or "less intrusive" method

i think the most amount of secret tiles i've seen in missions is like 2 or 3, so it would be relatively low cost to make 2 or 3 paper templates for that purpose

[proven saffron]

Thanks, that paper template thing sounds smart I will probably do that

[royal nacelle]

Could also just draw hidden cave tiles as per normal, rolls a D10 when you reveal a cave, on a 0 you reroll, on a 9 you replace it with the Korlok tile.

Or whichever number you'd prefer. 1, 5, your least or favourite number.

[ancient prawn]

Either way trying to "fix" scratches on the backs of cardboard peices like that is never going to end up not noticeable compared to the others.

[hollow socket]

That is all reasonable. It was certainly an accident because my brother and I were keeping the drinks well clear.

Would there be a paint I could use to patch/cover the exposed cardboard without causing further damage?

[royal nacelle]

I'd have to run some tests myself, to answer that, and I'm limited to what I have on hand anyway. I can try with acrylics and modge podge, or acrylic varnish, and let you know. But I mean you're looking at a costly fix for a tiny issue, probably just as fine with thinned down PVA glue brushed on sparingly.

Unless you have a buncha paints and varnishes

I'll get back to you in a bit

[hollow socket]

Thank you!

[royal nacelle]

Right, bit of testing done, methodology and results as follows;
Scratched up the surface, and applied the different coatings to both the scratched top and the side of the cardboard.
Bottom row is just the coating applied, the middle is acrylic paint and then the coating, top is coating, paint, coating.
The rightmost column is a different varnish I thought to try (leftmost is gloss varnish).

I also did some larger bits just testing PVA glue on its own, mixed with water, and mixed with .. airbrush medium xD which turned out to be the single best result I think (seen on the right in these next images)

Can barerly tell the coating is there with the airbrush medium.

Did some scratch testing on the surfaces, and PVA isn't the greatest, so I'd suggest an actual varnish (or modge podge which has varnish/sealant in it)

in a pinch though I'm sure PVA would work. My conclusion is to apply the coating first, then paint, as I thought I saw some minor bulging on the areas where I applied paint first.

and then the coating again. So first seal the area, then paint, and seal again (or only seal, if you don't care for the painting)

[hollow socket]

Thanks for the really fast reply! Modge Podge looks to have have the best results, from my point of view.

Your process of seal-paint-seal makes the most sense.

It is really a tiny issue, but I want to protect it so that it doesn’t become a bigger issue. I do kinda like this game. 😊

[royal nacelle]

Modge podge has a slightly rougher feel surface finish when brushing a finger over it, the gloss and matte varnish feel better.

In short, unless you want to spend extra money on it, use what you have. Even PVA beats a blank.

[ember ledge]

nice testing ^^

[royal nacelle]

Finally a reason for keeping the board 'scraps' for 3 years xD

[ember ledge]

before you posted your results, i was wondering how many spare card board player boards you had laying around 😛

[royal nacelle]

I was going to joke about having 4 full sets; 1 for play, 1 for testing, 1 backup, and 1 mint in box.. but realised it might sound too true.

[ember ledge]

and one sealed collectors edition for selling in 20 years 😛

they told me to diversify my portfolio 👉 👈

[upbeat oasis]

Is there any way to prevent the map tiles from taking damage
I take as best care of them as I can but I just wanted to know if there were any other precautions I could take

[royal nacelle]

Wear actual silk gloves while handling them, in a climate controlled room, and pack them away with fresh desiccant after play. Can also attach soft pads to the bottom of all miniatures.

[proven saffron]

Actually I ended up using an alcohol marker to cover up the scratch and I cant tell the difference anymore

Unless if I look really close

[next gorge]

Haven’t posted in a while, hadn’t had much painting time but just finished up these guys, pretty happy with em

[lime jungle]

Nice Brood and 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐚𝐝𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬

[sick python]

I feel like im playing wrong but cant find anything on the rulebook
3 main issues

1 - How does revealing caves work?
As soon as i destroy the wall near it does it just flips? Also saw one with a "pile of rubble" kind of tile, adjacento to a grunt and slasher silhouette, imagined i had to put the creatures on the silhouettes but what about the rubble?

2-Is the drop pod supposed to leave and then come back?
The "ending the game" section say something about flipping back the cave whe drop pod comes back, but cant see anything about it leaving nor flipping caves

3 - Is something supposed to happen when objectives are completed?
Just had the most casual walk back to the drop pod when got all morkite, as there were very few creatures and wasnt really far away, just 2 turns of moving got me to safety
Am I missing something?

Thank you for the responses!