#deep-dive-discussion
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so RNG is RNGing.
where was it?
It's on the left side
the huge room
there's a pillar that's jamming the morkite in the wall
you can see a bit morkite
Escort + exploration objective just seems like bleh
You would probably do heartstone first, though I guess with morkite it doesn't matter
I only found 2 on the left, and I can't see a pillar
where's the 3rd vein?
https://i.imgur.com/RGYYHcj.jpeg
this pillar
is that the hearthstone room?
aight lemme jog all the way back
only 2 veins in the hearthstone room?
found it 🤩 ty
1 in the heartstone, 1 in the small room before it
uhh I found 2 in the heartstone room
there are 2 in the hearthstone
both on the left side
but yes, his screenshot is the biggest room where you refuel
was also stuck until he posted that
thanks
ah, my mistake
Guess that this channel will be filled with "omg morkite bugged again" messages this week.
Having trouble getting 150/150 Morkite on EDD or Normal DD?
dd's black box with elite threat is pretty cringe as solo scout
Is it that bug again or just hard to find?
"hard" to find apparently. I think people have gotten complacent and jump to conclusions instead of properly looking, but I haven't tried it yet so eh. Just came in to check pins and saw oh so many mentions of missing morkite, and already seen heaps of mentions of where the "difficult" node is.
it hide a disgusting place spent 15min to find
stage 2 elite: when devs don't play their own game
The seeds are not cherry-picked by the devs, it's all automated and randomly selected
aren't deep dives fixed?
They are fixed, yes
then what's your point?
Awhell naw haunted cave elim on the regular deep dive...
What happened this time
if they played it, then they would have changed it
@wraith shard how do you not understand the point?
@thick jetty yeah can't find the last few bits of morkite
Either you're being obtuse on purpose, or you genuinely are just misunderstanding my point
The seeds are randomised
If there's a problem with the seed, they eventually fix it following reports
EDD is decent this week, normal amount of nitra, stage 2 has a lot of sharks.
okay, seems like you still don't understand the simple point that devs should have played the level before releasing, thereby avoiding the need to "fix" it later
There's literally been one bug with the morkite few weeks back in like forever, no need to get all up in arms "dEvS sHoUld PlAy TheIr GaMe"
the seed is nothing but a random number, it is entirely possible that the cavegen still has issues
indeed, the seed could be bad, which would have been caught if the devs played the game...
ITT: when you have to spell out 2+2 to people
They do play the game
They stream the dd and edd every week
that is also not true, the devs do play their own game, but since seeds are randon there are edge cases hard to find or encounter
which is why #bug-discussion often appreciates report with seed for problems
so devs played stage 2 EDD and thought the map was fine?
solo or
nah will try for a team, unless the issue is for solo players?
nah i just want a team as well lol
cause all I've seen is whinging about hard to find morkite
what platform you on
pc
there's several groups open, take your pick 🙂
in game or lfg
ingame
i only see one and it has 3 already lol
these fucking server names lmao
this is the second time morkite in escort duty is just nowhere near enough morkite unless its behind a random oil shale
(unless you have dark morkite)
Devs play DDs on Thursdays and EDDs on Fridays. Have they played it before it generated and went public? No, there is no need. There literally was 1 Almost unbeatable DD in the history of DDs, the one with Exact amount of Morkite. On this one you have enough morkite, just need to spend some extra time looking for it.
Tho i assume they will look into this edge case
seems like nobody wants to even attempt the edd lol
@left raptor If there's "just enough" morkite, then that's not a good design
As i said, they probably will look into this edge case, just as they did before. Your argument about "devs should play dds before they are public" is still invalid tho
@left raptor So explain this issue then
Elaborate
@left raptor so how can there be a lack of morkite (or rather, the difficulty of finding enough of it)
Because players be bad
“Boo hoo, I wasted extra 10mins looking for the morkite”
That’s what I’m hearing now
Yo we are missing morkite where do i find it?
Big pillar on lower level , more than enough there
Apparently its an extreamly rare cave generation case, considering there has been hundreds of DDs and only one and a half(to my knowledge) with little morkite to spare @blissful matrix
@left raptor Could be very common for all I care. Would've been caught in actual gameplay because it's a fixed seed every week
To be fair, its a rare case and chasing morkite for 10 minutes is not exactly fun, especially if you are not scout
Literally search for it, this is not the first time we had weird cave gen , I don’t see any difference this week
Unless we have a shortage like one previously a few weeks ago
Then that warrants an actual complaint
Wait, so this isn't even a softlock case? Just some weird cave gen?
Yes
Oh for the love of Karl
So, you are arguing that devs should spend hours every week to locate a problem that occurs one in a thousand times? That is laughable
Folks just gotta flip around the place a bit more
@left raptor How dumb are you? Literally? I just said that the devs should play their DD/EDD every week
I'm going to take a step away before I give myself a migraine
Good lord, man.
THEY DO
so they thought the stage 2 gen was fine then
devs should spend hours every week fixing armor break
No need to entertain said person here

You're calling everyone around you stupid without listening to a word they're saying man
At this point everyone is better off walking away from the conversation
anyways
I am actually finding parasite mutator
really fucking annoying in haz 5
how bad is it on the edd
people are saying they found it, I'm saying I can't. But overall, people are agreeing it's difficult to find.
cuz if I kill something too close to me there's a random chance the parasite goes straight at me
Wait. Is it the dd or edd that has bugged morkite
in other words, it's still a bad map gen
edd
@left raptor Your post was removed and chat was issued a warning. That was not an invitation to continue on and repost it. You've been muted.
EDD stage 2? Plenty? Would love a video of the "plenty"
Cba to take a video for you, its hidden on a pillar
But u can get like 200 without dark morkite
wasn't that hidden
walk under that pillar and you'll see it
oh well I get to look forward to our diamond 2 scout completely missing it
and running around the cave for the last 20 minutes
there's a verified QoL mod (Brighter Objects) that slightly increases the visibility / glowiness of morkite...if folks are truly struggling that's also an option.
While I am no longer having trouble (should sleep soon tbh), mods make my game crash no matter what, so.. I'm sure it'll help some folks in here
so how's morkite on stage 2 edd
do you remember the spot?
It's on the left side of doretta in the first stop
pretty stuck in a pillar
but after further confirmations, easily see-able from under
people say there are 2 spots in doretta left side, which Im pretty sure we mined out, but was still left with 144/150
you're kidding dude
ANOTHER drilldozer morkite incident
how have they not patched this
EDD complete.. had a near scare with Morkite, intel is correct - check behind pillars if you are short on morkite
from previous memory the other incident had 1 or 2 extra morkite unless there was somehow a hidden vein
this one does have extra
EDD stage 3 was a near fail, Nemesis spawn dug its way towards spawn, and triggered the twins, my tip - Don't dawdle if you hear him, prepare immediately
if you are missing more morkite, there's morkite in a ceiling in the ommoran on the left side
if someone wants to volunteer to inventory the morkite veins, it would probably help folks
A cheat sheet of some kind?
yeah. here's an example of someone who made a morkite guide for a previous deep dive...not this one: #deep-dive-discussion message
did a deep dive yesterday we got to the last mission then we got blown up by a bulk det
Would ask everyone, how many did you count the highest in your deep dives?
The Bulks I mean, this particular one, both normal and elite, they seem to be out for blood this week
Sorry, my bad. On that note, tho, your “chat warning” was completely indistinguishable from any other message, which was proven by both me and my opponent completely missing it. @ping would be greatly appreciated in such cases. Therefore, my post was removed without any indication for me, for which i took a guess and decided that it was auto-moderated out for an f-word, so i retyped my message without it for it came to my mind that this is probably child-friendly server. And to conclude, i don’t think that it is obvious to everyone that a message from a green nickname is a message from a moderator - there are at least 3 tints of green in the chat.
Just completed EDD, had 25 morkite to spare (on top of whatever anyone else may have deposited as extra, didn't ask). As someone else filled up Molly they're bound to have had some extra.
On 2nd stage that is
I did my first EDD last week and we had at least 30 downs and made it through
Find last morkite piece, in this week EDD, in refuel room...
i also did my first EDD with a friend last week and after failing the first stage a few times we were able to finish the whole thing
it honestly wasn't as bad as i expected and i think i'll start doing them solo
edd2 morkite is enough, just hidden in weird spots. check behind the pillar near the floor in the refuel room
and did everyone get a nemesis in edd3? is it like one of those preplaced enemies now?
i got 2 bulk spawns playing dd solo 
Last EDD Arbalest Keep disappearing and we stucked .....
any tips ? 😕
like ... grayed out and completely not show himself
for edd we got bulk spawns in the worst times - during the salvage uplink and 2 during the escort mission during refuel and during the ommoran. terrible luck.
and arbalest getting stuck, that's new. usually it's hiveguard that bugs out
Is there a list of the dives today?
Check pinned messages.
ohhhhhh the pin itself is updated. I thought it was like a really old one
has anyone experienced frequent crashing during the DDs today?
either i encountered a bug or something is out of whack with todays EDD... my usual solo gunner run.. and on the escort.. i got a neverending grunt swarm.. literally no stop to it..
never seen anything like it
start the heartstone and grunts kept spawning + other enemies continuously .. like playing modded difficulty levels! and then when the rocks spawned there were 7 or 8 rocks at first rock spawn.. rip EDD.
I've occasionally seen that with mods that don't get properly disabled...any chance you've run some modded spawn rates recently?
nope.. not for a long time
weird
very
The whole EDD felt a little off.. like I was playing on Haz6 from the start. All the waves felt haz5 speed which is shouldn't be on EDD stage 2..
If I wasn't solo it would be doable. .but solo has limits on escort missions there is only so much you can manage
well, EDD stage 2 is Haz 5...
so it should feel like haz 5 bug speed
but yeah spawn rates sound a little high for solo
thought it was "4.5" when modifier present
I do solo EDD every week and this felt honestly the dumbest I have ever seen (that is an exaggeration.. there have been worse)
fair enough.. maybe I am just feeling off my game today
Eyyy how are de DD this week?
guys we're at stage 2 EDD, just short 4 morkite, and we can't find any for the life of us
got any help about that?
Pillar in the refueling room.
Wedged up against the wall, walk under the pillar and look up.
dang what a terrible placement. Thanks, you rock
for anyone puzzled by edd morkite situation, posting screenshot from Ethosaur's vid in #drg-gallery
haunted cave and elite threat 
haunted cave dreadnoughts 

there's a vein right up against a pillar/wall in the refueling room
scroll up for a pic someone made
i found it thank!
we got something like 6 bulks in our run, 4 in stage1 and 2 in stage2
the first spawn was a double spawn, so the double explosion was fun
bulks indeed
One level of the normal Deep dive is Hell. Haunted warning + elimination objective.
hey there, is the EDD this week easy? I've never done EDD's before
Regardless of difficulty you should attempt it anyways imo
yeah just play it and say it was easy, even if you lose. it's all fun and games.
100%, don't self-gate, just try it
Are you used to haz 5? I mean if you can do haz 5 decently then yeah EDD isnt bad.
Is there 150 morkite in stage 2 of this EDD?
I think this is the second time a deep dive with morkite secondary in an escort has all the veins deleted by the heartstone
If the host crashes does that disconnect the game for everyone else?
Yes
More than enough
It’s just hidden slightly
Look around more
Yeah we found it eventually
Yup there ya go
glad the haunted cave dreads are in normal deep dives, edd looks chilled
149 out of 150 morkite i think i scuffed the second level of edd
i almost did, till i found a hidden batch
on my 3rd bulk now, gonna have to leave mission soon :/
we really should make the info about the hidden vein somewhere quickly available
losing my mind
yeah im having trouble soloing this lmao
just gonna have to replay later when dark morkite is on tap :/
Can someone tell me the stages of the Elite Deep Dive
stage one: repair mules + 2 eggs
stage two: suffering
stage three: no clue
thanks for saving me
FR
someone have that pic of the missing morkite in edd stage 2?
I'm trying to finish stage two of the EDD and I'm missing 6 morkite, I have already fimished the Dorretta part, I've searched every inch of the caves and haven't found anymore, I'm thinking I need dark morkite to finish this honestly
I starting to think the bugs are hiding it from me
Is Stage 2 bugged? We got Flying Stones in the 3stage of the Heartstone
that's a generic bug with escort that was introduced in season 2, generally you just get a few and it stops
finally over
it lasted 1h20
the last stage is really hard, the nemesis trigerred the egg, we had to kite without any ammo for 20 minutes, the twins, nemesis, a bulk and an opressor

I hate fighting dreadnoughts with a ghost around
I think running dark morkite is your only hope
Damn it not again
like a few weeks back with the deepdive(?) a few weeks back yea
found it, replying so it's easier for others
It's somewhere on the top of that stage when you start to go down to next stage, it's up near a bump of a rock
Theres a hidden vein of it around there
And since it's the same edd for everyone, it should work for everyone
Oh yeah it's said up there, my bad
Thanks
elimination + haunted cave = hard pass this week
thanks for this. we spent 15 minutes looking
fuck this elite deep dive
finished elite deep dive 2 after 60 minutes
and double fuck stage 2
same
plus a double opressor spawn that bum rushed duretta
Did reset already happen or is it later tonight
it just happened
Cool! Thanks!
Is the deep dive glitched with the morkite again
nope
I hosted an EDD and the session closed out on me near the end of the first mission, then tried to join a different one and got dropped during the escort. Did the DD no problem. Guess I got the hidden "internet instability" warning this week.
EDD second mission missing morkite or am i blind?
scroll up
^
Okay, but since I've never finished this stage, I don't know what room you use to exit. And the room you leave from is selected based on distance from players. What room is it?
would it be possible to pin every weekly Deep dive and Elite Deep dive missions in this channel?
lost connection
The devs usually post it as a sticky every week in the DeepRockGalactic subreddit, though for some reason they didn't this week
a
its haz 3
finally found that jammed morkite
Episode 2: The Hidden Morkite
EDD wasn't TOO bad this week but def felt the squeeze trying to get that last bit of Morkite.
Definitely didn't get stuck in the last cave and die on the way back to the drop pod on mission three
Totally
Nothing of the sort happened, there is no cosmetic overclock missing, we are moving on
Anyone else have one of the mini mules fall upside down in the EDD and softlock the mission
Cause that just happened to me
Ah yeah that one
It gets finicky if you try to drop it down, I've found the easiest thing to do is have Bosco ferry two of the legs up from below and grab the third one that's already up there during a lull in the waves
Ah well, just finished both deep dives. Was pretty fun. Agreed that EDD mission 2 was sticky with the detonators mid wave. Mission 3 could of been super bad if we didn't wait for nemesis before starting dread as we got hit by a particularly nasty wave mid nemesis fight.
I think the detonator spawns massively upscale, for whatever reason
Got 0-1 first mission, 1 second, 0 third solo, but been hearing up to 3 per for teams
EDD stage 2 last morkite node where?
in the refueling room, a lil crevice on the bottom left
look at the wall side of the arc
It is already. The actual pin date is old but it gets refreshed every week so its the current info
ah the google drive one yeh i saw it
I mean the pinned message on this channel 😀. RnS!
Bring fire
Fire works in this EDD just as good, if not better, than cryo in this EDD.
Stage 3 has Twins, which Cryo is a terrible idea against, personally I prefer acid versus dreads, but you have a lot of horde clearing in this EDD, so I would say fire.
But regarding dets, they're not bad if you stack slows with your team, so SFS is recommended.
its one dread
we got through with fire but I would have preferred cryo if I knew how many bulks spawn
horde clearing=autocannon gunner and engie lol
got two bulks per stage i believe
and the swarm coefficient is fucking cranked on the intermittent and announced swarms
Still, I would prefer to have a driller who can help during 90% of a twins fight.
we got two swarmer swarms in a row and praetorian swarm right after so it wasn't as bad as it could be
if driller isn't running sludge he is a very good bait for lacerator lol
fire doesn't do much to dreads iirc
Also as I said, bulks aren't necessarily a problem if you get out fo the way/make them blow far away.
plus no aoe so he can just cold radiance
yeah well you dont get a choice during escort boss fight if team isn't in voice chat
unless the team knows exactly what to do, someone is going to break the chain of events needed to lure the bulk out while fighting escort swarm
That's why the drill has two sides you can sacrifice, if you blow the dread near the drill you'll only lose one.
imo bulks are 10x the problem twins are
yeah well every team isn't in the position to lose an armor
I think we got pushed to just hull after a really shitty sandstorm and spitter spawn w/ a trawler and it the bulk next to the drill had gone off without it being frozen we would have lost
If you're playing an EDD, you most likely are, because at that point you're all good enough to get the drill to the core with both sides.

you do realize everyone who is promoted can do an edd
let me re emphazie
everyone
the shitters will need their cryo
also retarded shit can happen during escort boss battle as I've experienced so adding a bulk ontop of that, I could see an uncoordinated team lose all three during the last phase if a pair of bulks spawn
iirc the seeded disruptive enemies differ from group to group (somehow)
but its sandblasted so I dont think shellbacks spawn
ok thank God I've had a team wipe to just shellbacks
EDD this week was ballbustingly hard but we pulled through. All the way through it felt like the damn bugs were tunneling me specifically. Constantly targeted by spitters, trawlers, praetorians and all sorts.
quite a few leeches too
Stage 2 had the most trawlers I've ever seen.
What is a trawler?
The sharks that travel through the ground and grab you on sandblasted
Ah the sandsharks
They're called Nayaka Trawlers in-game
you saint!
we were looking for it so long that our scout left and we failed stage 3 
also good to point out its the closest arch to the dozer when it stops
cuz there's a lot that look similar in that room lol
Is anyone else missing morkite in Elite stage 2?
welcome to the club
Our lobby had to forfeit because we were missing 3 morkite
in the first refuel room theres an arch thingy to the left of the dozer
I know the game has had noticeable issues spawning enough minerals to complete the objective in the past, and even rarely in today's versions
and theres a morkite vein in the wall on the right side of the arch
i dont think im explaining this very well but just look around the bottom of the refueling room
wpw
we literally spent 2 hours checking every single wall and we were stuck at 147/150
yep
sucks that the devs dont test things before rolling them out - been a major issue since day 1 of this game

the devs didnt pick the seed tho
mine better
DD Stage 3 this week was so fun
we had at least 15 extra
you masochist
at one point we were fighting the horror, an actual bulk, and the twins at the same time
i enjoy dashing in and out of the horror’s range to make it kill the dreadnoughts 
this week's edd has no issues with not enough morkite
it's just the usual issue of it being well hidden
tbh if you have the entire cave mapped (and only if its entirely mapped), resources should show up on the map
would save a lot of headaches and you could handwave it with some kind of survey data tied to the pda's
did anyone else have a terrible time with stage 3 of deep dive
we went in earlier with a team of 2 cause no one else was on
we ended up losing to the last dread
Had a bulk spawn at the end of the second mission which we ignored, then the horror came out of the walls

It followed us down
does anyone know the missions on the regular dive the thread isn’t on the reddit for me
Check pins
Morkite on stage 2 of EDD is trolling us we're 2 short cant find anymore
Yeah in one now, can't find the morkite
I want to destroy the entire map lol
last vein is behind the pillar to the left of where doretta drills after refuel
that one literally has 25 morkite
entirely covered behind sand
Is Elite dd hard this week?
Same, had about 170 morkite in the end with no beer. It is quite hidden in two places though so easy to miss I guess
I personally found it quite fun. Not extremely hard, just the right level. Abundance of nitra throughout the entire dive which makes it a bit easier.
You just have to come out prepped for lethal enemies which caught me out a bit.
Also had a double bulk on the uplink, then double bulk on final escort stage and a bulk + nemesis + dread fight on the third stage but that stuff is random. If it weren't for that, it'd have been smooth sailing
Any hoarders in DD or EDD?
There was a hoarder on the third (if I recall right) stage of the EDD
So, question for the folks
Do you go out of your way to help others after you've done the week's DDs?
I let others who need to complete it take the spot
Ngl I got carried pretty hard this edd, I should he ashamed
same
We spent 15 minutes lol
Yes
I run extra EDD for the first 1-2 days
Help? Do people really need help?
As long as your team isnt full of people who HATE META and run garbage builds, you should be good on almost any stage of any EDD
*as long as your team isnt stupid and using shitpost loadouts
Any nems in the standard DD?
hey guys
is anyone encountering the same morkite issue
on this week's EDD?
we can't find the last 3 morkite
i think there's another gen bug
I haven't played yet, but I heard there's a vein in the big room almost entirely covered by terrain
There should be a little bit sticking out
Its was EXTREMLY hidden
^^^^^
hey lads
here's where the last pocket of morkite is on this week's EDD
thankfully after finding that last pocket the rest of the EDD was smooth
lots of detonators this week, tho
Doing the EDD when Dark Morkite on tap might be a boon just for stage 2
Worth saving the headache, if you don't mind going in without other more useful buffs
Then again, ideally you should clear dives without beers, just saying
That's leaf lover language I'm hearing
.... well okay, that sounded wrong
What I'm trying to say is, a dive cleared without blasters, is a dive that is no problemo with blasters, know what I mean?
Still, doesn't mean you shouldn't, get those buffs
how is the edd
oh christ where the fuck is this
It's somewhere around the 1st and 2nd cave when you start the drilldozer
Look for a column curving into a wall on the left
Honestly tho
oh thanks
With how finnicky morkite generates, i don't think it should be a part of deepdives
Np homie
i think its good fun though
Yeah it's fun for sure
The team i dropped with for this edd was super dope
Really chillaxed n pulled through after we bonked our first attempt
nice
There is a consistent hoarder on stage 1 of DD. Surprised if is there as it is farmable.
Still have to do all 3 stages per farming attempt
I mean, you can die and get all the resources right?
You keep a percentage of the resources
Huh, didn't know that. Good to know.
Sadly it’s pretty common for EDD hosts to “gatekeep” a bit based on player rank. I went through a similar experience early in my DRG career
wew, finished this week's EDD, special thanks to the gunner and scout that carried my ass off
That's simply because EDD is a big time investment
Nobody wants to fail because a greenie ate up all your resupplies or something
how do I join other peoples deep dive? everything is greyed out for me
Bottom of the screen, make sure Public is checjed
for me it always defaults to Private and idk why
That's just if you host. Has nothing to do with joining or seeing others' games.
If there are no available games just host your own, otherwise keep checking once in a while.
Can't join a game in progress so that's why they're greyed out.
oh well thats the reason probably
When looking for a DD to join I do actually have to click Public to find joinable lobbies.
I think it’s a mindset thing. When I host EDDs nowadays, I welcome everyone. If a greenbeard takes an extra resup for health, sure there’s some feedback, but you gotta learn somewhere.
so how about that morkite huh??
But I get it, some folks have limited time to game, or are focused on OCs vs just playing to play. Host gonna do what host gonna do
147/150 ?
Better than the 146/150 I got
Leaning pillar in refueling room, walk under it and look up.
My brother in Karl, scroll up
📝 thanks guys
Nemy and Thrawler combo is Total BS
Just need some leeches and grabbers to complete the combo
I actually had grabbers spawn during the 3rd stage of the EDD
I've been trying the EDD for two days and I can't get past the first mission with randoms. Can I get players that aren't going to wipe the moment they walk into the big room somewhere?
I would join ya, but I just did my EDD
📝 I see, so wait till Dark Morkite spawns?
That's what I did for my run. Wait for DM to be on tap, but it should be possible to do stage 2 of the EDD without it
Doing the edd for 2 days already? Dang
When I did my run. I did it with NTP auto cannon gunner
I wish this game had bot support.
Very funny.
You said bot support 😛
Yes, bots playing as dwarves.
Bosco's revive charges are refil between stages of EDD
Okay, where are the other two boscos then?
Always there in your heart
You are extremely unhelpful.
1 bosco unit is good enough
Though if you're willing. There is mods that improves Bosco a fair bit more.
Are you actually expecting a real answer?
Do you expect real answers when you ask questions?
Not if they're silly.
Bosco is already enough help, you won't likely need more support than you have
He provides light, Long range mining, keeping fodder bugs (mostly) off of you
Enemies also scale to the player count. Try the deep dive in a duo and see if it goes any better if you're not comfortable soloing
Remember to have a decent Duo combo
what are your favourite duos
Driller and Gunner is my choice
I don't have one, that's why I'd like to play with bots.
Engie and scout can offer one of the best synergies ingame
Brings eggs, quartz to you making point extraction mission super manageable
Bosco is a solo Driller's best friend
Experimenting with random also formulates experience and opinions. You'll gather enough to form one. Don't force yourself much if you end up failing
And prevents forming Solo habits that could hinder team play
Like scouts refusing to light up caves
My mind was blown when i ping the drill dozer and i could tell bosco to protect it
meanwhile my friend refuses to defend the dozer 😔
I've already experimented for 500 hours and randoms are useless. I just want to finish my missions.
But only real issue with Bosco is that you can't say "WE'RE RICH"
thats literally pubbing in a nutshell
in like any game ever
That's what I said.
Usually bots are better than randoms.
I can't do it solo, I tried.
never lets you down
haven't try the new one yet, but i know that im confident about my ability to do it if i put practice into it
go practice
What specific dive are we talking about again? Normal or elite?
Any?
Nope, 3/3.5/3.5
Well. Rughly Haz 3 since 3.5 barely feels like between Haz 3 and Haz 4
Still a different hazard
Look, I just want to get one (1) cosmetic from season 1 that I missed entirely because a goddamn war broke out within driving distance from me. I just want to knock these missions out, I don't want to argue about any of this.
As the kids would say "Git gud"
I mean, theres nothing we can do, it all depends on you at the end of the day
We can only offer you tips and advice
^
If you still need basic advice about dives, one of the priorities is nitra. Get enough to have a supply pod for the next stage, and try not to overspend.
really just a skill issue on all parts
Gather at least 160 on regular dives per stage; it'll give you a supply for that stage if you need it, and one for the next.
That's not what I asked.
Then enlighten me please. I got here late
I asked for help, then I lamented that I wished the game had bots because even bots would be smarter than random players.
Then there were about 2 pages of unhelpful comments.
what type of help? been vague doesnt help
lol
do you need tips, any strats?
Your bot support is called 
I... just told you what I need. Holy shit.
no you didnt
You know what, I'm out.
If you can't solo the normal deep dive then you're likely on par with the useless randoms. You're asking for others to carry you.
You just said you needed help. What specific part are you having problems? Without some more context, the most we can give is broad tips and strats
^
they want bots even though it is most likely never gonna be added
cause bosco is all u need !!
"just wants to get the missions done" and thinks randoms are useless. Hence wants others to carry.
if u can't do it then it is simply a skill issue no doubt about it
Are deep dives any better with randoms
I’ve always done them solo just so I can use resupplies at my leisure
deep dives dont really matter
elite deep dives can make or break with randoms
I've never had any real problems with normal deep dives, and elite deep dives normally at least get through second stage, depending on how nasty third stage is.
It's a gamble but I was getting lucky most of the time and had no issues doing EDD's with randoms
I generally good pubs on EDD, but it depends on the stages and what the spawning director throws at us
Aye, I've only had to redo second stage in EDD a couple of times in all the time I've played.
there are only 2 edds in recent memory that have taken multiple tries for me
that one in hollow bough that I had to do with friends and the haunted caved with hiveguard/morkite 3rd stage in the red sands map with
Only EDD that gives me restarts is one where the game fucks us over with real bad swarms or if hidden Nitra starved modifier is active
yeah the stage ones where you only have enough for 1 resup is tough
i remember an escort where we only had 160 nitra
That;s still the minimal 2 resupplies during the Heartstone segment...assuming you're not matched with a bunch of stormtroopers for dwarfs
wasn't too bad but we were definitely running super low at the end of it
Sometimes it pays to play super ammo efficient build like NTP gunner
Yeah, usually if there's not as much need in single target damage for gunner I tend to go NTP with BRT. Works like a charm
Hello, sometimes I see people digging under the fuel pod, why do they do that? they say it's to "cheese" but I don't understand
I use Elephant Bulldog
It you drop down the fuel pod a bit you free up line of sight. I personally don't like it because it shrinks the bubble, but each to their own.
Often to allow more sight lines. Helps for sentry guns so they can shoot more bugs.
thanks!
I usually dig the uplinks down a little but not the fuel cells. With uplinks it's a viable option, you lose a tiny bit of radius but you're more free to shoot and move around
Mostly so that the box itself is close to ground level
Usually it's better to clear the stuff around the Drop pod area itself to give you as much Line of sight as possible
and less places to get caught on
That's a given, proper use of bug repellent platforms helps a lot too
And a escape tunnel (Within reason) for "OH SHIT" moments
They can definitely be fun. NTP + electro turns gunner into an ultimate crowd control beast. just make sure you have someone else in your party who is spec'd to take out HVTs
(I probably wouldn't take that build to play, say, an EDD with randoms though)
I used to run Hellfire Coilgun since it gave me more CC and good enough single target damage
have heard awesome things about hellfire, I need to give that a try
Hellfire was nerfed to have a crappy trail duration length
yeah, saw that 
hellfire is great on mining missions
And it sucks more with partial charges
because of the corridors
Hellfire is great if the bugs focus down a tunnel either natural or Driller made
But Hellfire isn't a "Slap on" forget set up as it was before
I felt it requires a little more prep than Cookie cutter magic bullets explosive bullets neurotoxin revolver but its fire and forget after that cuz it lingers
Though I like leaving a trail behind and watch all the swarmers just pop from it
I'm not sure why people get upset over the game, if it ever gives me grief I just use cheat engine.
It's important to remember it's just a game, but at the same time. Cheating is very Leaf Lover move
What isn't a leaf lover move at this point?
I've been kicked from groups for having the wrong loadout or choosing the wrong character, or using something differently from someone's imaginary way of using it. Everything is a leaf lover move.
The game's supposed to be fun, besides I paid for it.
I rarely been kicked. Though I stay away from servers that strict requirements such as "Must be rank 400+, diamond promo dwarfs, no mining anything, Kill loot bug = instant kick"
All for a haz 3 mission in Hollow bough
Kill loot bug = instant kick
Don't play with insane people.
I don't. I avoid those servers at all cost
And as a old Robber simulator saying goes
HYOG
I think the funniest reason I was kicked for was using resupply pod twice after we summoned two. I was supposed to use one from one and one from the second one.
Not two from the same one.
That... is the way it's done though.
Don't try your fancy smancy logic here.
Tradition before all
You have two resupply pods next to each other. Everyone needs to get two resupplies. Everyone gets 2 resupplies because there are 8 total.
It doesn't matter what order you take them in.
It does too!
Unless you are very peculiar about your specific brand of autism, I guess.
Only time I need 2 resupply pods back to back is I'm playing Engie and I forgot to bring my ammo efficient loadout
For example my brand of autism is only using default cosmetics. I can't stand anything custom.
Sounds detrimental.
I mean. The Loki doesn't care how drunk I am. As long I face vaguely the direction of the bugs
Well...Until I bring out the nukes
For best results. Proximity trigger nukes!
a very cheeky morkite spot on stage 2, and a nemesis on stage 3
👍
Ty
when you say morkite
Is it another one with barely enough morkite or is it better?
There's more than enough, just that one rather big vein is somewhat hidden.
Ah alright
pretty sure without dark morkite you need the hidden vein
we got a driller who likes exploring so I'm sure he will be happy to look for it
By hidden vein you mean like booloo cap inside a red thorn tentacle situation?
except with morkite
Nah
I didn't even think it was THAT hidden, but I have a keen eye for looking in nooks and crannies
You are a dirt digger so I wouldn't expect anything else 
😄
How's the new elite dive?
leaning pillar in refueling room, walk under it and look up
Yeah I should take dark morkite lmao
Actually easier to spot the glimmer if there are no flares up
found it!! thanks !!
^ its in the refueling room
Dark Morkite is recommend to avoid that cheeky little morkite vain
Like down below or above
Yeah I should take dark morkite lmao
DM is also good for stage 3
Helps you blitz the stage and avoid the Nemy that lurks in the cave
Thankfully It doesn't spawn in the Twin's spawn room
and it won't go up to bother you during said Twins fight
unless the nemesis breaks the egg 
bruh 145/150 cant find this shit
where's this
Lot of cheeky Morkite as of late
I think the DD some time ago barely had enough Morkite to complete it without DM
yeah if you did not do it right and the morkite rounded down u straight up would not be able to complete it iirc
with dark morkite it's pretty cheese
First attempt on the EDD i found a really good guy that crashed as a host and the second i got demolished as gunner 

Lol that bad eh?
My team managed to find all the morkite in both DDs without DM. Luck, I guess.
another EDD in the bag, took me 1hour 25 minutes as driller
only 5 deaths
ROCK AND STONE
Not a bad EDD by any stretch. A cheeky Morkite spot in Stage 2 to be mindful of
dwarves when the minerals are not highly visible and they have to look

edd definetly isn't as easy as last week morkite notwithstanding
cranked swarm size modifier means it can roll for bulks a lot easier
fuck me power flickered from lightning in my EDD
didnt even know it waas storming
was the host too 😦
Hardest part for EDD for me was accidentally botching my build (Bertha with 4 ROF, Triple Tech without Controlled Mag Flow instead of Hellfire)
Still, worst it got was Lethal Trawler triple killing late in stage 1
Team did smart by agreeing to drill to and bait nemesis before entering dread room
we just did the dread first and lured it back to spawn lol
didn't want it accidentally popping the dread digging
it being the nemsis
Dystrum in the azure weald is worse than morkite in the DD.
might have to solo with gunner this time
is morkite an issue again?
where
just take DM, there's a morkite primary later anyway
here
Worst EDD Stage 3 of my life.
No like, thankfully we had Dark Morkite to make things go by faster, but I was not prepared for the Stage 3 after breezing past the first two. Neither was my team, because we nearly Wiped twice.
Spoilers for the EDD
Nemesis, kinda exists, thankfully we led it away from the Dreadnought Cocoon. Poor Scout got Leech'd trying to get away. Dude IWs himself to full health after presumably seeing the Detonator that spawned while we were backing into the first room away from the Nem. After we let that happen, we meet the Det at the far end of Nem's tunnel. Have a small struggle fighting it and the Wardens that came with it, before the Scout gets a cool Resupply kill on it. Why was a second Detonator necessary? We dealt with the second one faster, but then we had a Swarm approach. Also we fought in the crater of the first Det, and then we manage to kill the second one before the Swarm came. We'll have a Storm now, and a 4 Wipe, if you'd like.
tl;dr Nemesis, 2 Detonators, a Swarm, a Storm, and Team Wipe with me using IW and throwing my shield and grenades whenever, and the Cocoon in the same room we struggled in did not break throughout that whole thing, miraculously.
Also The Twins made us Wipe, after 3 of us used IW. Engineer came in clutch with his IW, Driller had an Instant Revive after, and then we were ready to gtfo after.
Had Sticky Nades to pair with my Salvo and Six Shooter, I felt like I was actually playing Gunner when I was being forced to use my shield for a Swarm. So much so I had to double dip.
incredible storytelling 👏
I was highly upset, I couldn’t tell you if 1 Warden existed during the SwarmStorm, or if one of them died only to be shortly replaced with a second Warden. There was 2 Detonator Craters and that room still wasn’t large enough despite being the room with the Dread cocoon,
I guess our Engineer getting grabbed and carried off during a Storm while Doretta was drilling the Heartstone was foreshadowing. Also, we fought in total 2 Detonators from her. Once in the beginning, once near the very end (neither dealt a lot of damage to her, bless the Repulsion Shield)
I got a Similar det set up during my EDD run. One Bulk at the start and one near the 10% of the heart stone 4th segment
Had a really seasoned team for the edd. Everything was smooth and even had dark morkite. They all fell otw back to doretta and I died as drop pod doors were opening. Sad
The driller on my team played Det kitting and let the Heart stone "Kill everything in the cave" finish it off
The Nemy stage 3 wasn't fun. NTP gunner does jack shit against it and only so many ER bull dog shots on the weak points
I think for my Heartstone Det, it was during one of the Neutral Swarm phases. I was sure that it was going to steal a piece before I could put a second shield up, but there was just enough distance between it and Dotty to leave a crater without harming Dotty.
As a fast tip. If you repair a Dotty segment to 100%. Dotty gets a few seconds of damage immunity
You can use it to save Dotty from losing a segment from a Bulk going KA-BOOM on it
Stage 2 really likes dets, had 5 spawn. Sadge
Lot of Bulk spawns on Stage 2 0.o
Be glad the Elite modifier wasn't on it
Imagine dealing with Elite bulks
Heh that'll be fun
It should be lively hours right now. For general American regions, at least.
It's getting near peak hours for most of North America
another image that shows the location of the elusive morkite in stage 2 edd:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412593930383917076/977323443303370922/unknown.png
Its in the big room you refuel doritos at, right at the bottom, beneath the pillar.
Are Ü fucking kidding me?
We where missing 5 morkite
And I swear we checked everything including that
i hate elite deep dives
omg im so upset rn not gonna lie xd
the host went down once and aborted the mission, then kicked everyone
this happened twice
I failed at solo stage 2 twice 
lol. yea it sucks. 2nd time this is happening with dives...
Im horrible at drilldozer stuff
yeah dark morkite is mandatory at this point
whats worse is that you can lose morkite when overmining / bulk explosion radius deletes it..
so we kinda had to manually drill all the way to the ommoran to find it before doretta cucks us up
whaaat? I thought it scattered it araound
bulk exploded in a hallway but maybe there wasnt morkite there
afaik it doesnt but i aint 100% sure, tho im pretty sure that you dont get 100% minerals when exceeding mineral count
anyway ill try edd in another day when there is dark morkite
We were fighting the two arbalest dreadnaughts in phase 3, and once we killed one of em the 2nd one became invincible and then disappeared?
omg
known bug actually
That's a big sad
Then again, if 4 fat assholes showed up and murdered my sibling I'd gtfo of there too lol
Trying my first deep dive solo scout... having a rough time so far lol
got a swarm during my black box defense and got 2 elite macteras
Had to abort the black box first time
This isn't the DD to attempt Solo scout on
Because the dread? I assumed that would be an issue lol
You got 2 black boxes to hold out on
And of course 3 dreads to kill
Hiveguard is the worst possible dread for Scout to really fight against
The twins isn't the worst
There's no good pretty open area to really fight the dreads for scouts along with the Bulk's last laugh chasing you down
what kind of loadout do u run for scout
I am forever sold on drak with opa and nuk 15s with cryo minelets
Oh jesus I didnt realize the haunted cave thing... I have never even seen that before
im effed lol
I’m on an edd and I’m wondering if there’s anyway to find the last 3 morkite?
Or is it just bugged
search for morkite or pillar in the search bar.
many different explanations on how to find it. one of them should make sense
Add in the fact the first blackbox holdout is covered in crystals heavily limiting your mobility and plenty of places for the bugs nibble your bum
Well I beat the first 2 stages, waiting to start the third a little
Worst case, isnt the third just a cosmetic? Right now the OCs are more important to me anyway
Second was easy, first was pretty rough, third sounds sketchy to me now on scout lol
3rd stage of DD and EDD is a cosmetic Overclock
Sont forget that crafting the cosmetic ones brings you one step closer to the forge rank free OC
Which alternates between cosmetic and OC
Which for me is now Blanks and Cosmetics since I got all the new weapon OCs
Ah
Well good then, even if I fail im not missing much. Cause I cant even attempt it for a few hours probably, need to leave my pc, idk if the game will eventually drop either lol
anything important I should know about this week's elite dive?
is there enough morkite this time?
does anyone knwo if elite deep dive stage 2 morkite is bugged again?
not sure, im stuck in stage 2 currently
There's a hidden patch of Morkite in the refueling room between an sand arch and a wall
So if you;re missing morkite. Check there
ooh, thanks, i'm actually on stage 2 and at 147/150
Best advice is check if Dark Morkite is on tap before doing the EDD
Just to save you the headache
found it, very sneaky
It's a very sneaky
cripes there's a lot of trawlers
Yep. There's a Nemy mucking around EDD stage 3
ate a down because the arbalest didnt feel like coming out of invulnerability while shooting fireballs
i am nettled
thx for this
you can ask your scout to dive in and get the remaining morkite then zip out
nemmy is also relatively slow
Nemmy on stage 2 edd?
stage 3
Aight
is the last elite deep dive level as bad as it seems?
This is shaping up to be one of the worst EDDs ever.
y'all heard of the song mikey from monsters ink sings put that thing back where it came from or so help me right
i have a parody of it now
get on that pod right now or so help me

man that armpit of morkite is the worst
took us like 7 minutes to find that vein behind the pillar
this is the worst edd I've ever had
almost 1k mined looking for mork
I had no business passing stage 2 after wasting half an hour and resupps
Is the new EDD second stage bugged again? Is dark morkite required
is Elite deep dive stage two softlocked morkite again?
No, but the last vein you need is pretty well hidden by terrain. There were posts above telling and showing the location
THANK YOU. ALMOST SOFT LOCKED.
we already left before we could see that lol
re lobbied with a room sellign dark morkite
We got the Dark Morite after the dive. Cruel trick.
no, but recommended to take dark morkite imo
Had quite some bad luck with this EDD. First try went looking for morkite while 2 ppl guarded dozer, both died by the time me and other got back dozer dead. Second try power went out as stage 2 end and i was not able to join back. And last try we had nemesis, dreds and detonator all active at once that killed us 
Dark morkie beer
were there any holes in the ceiling?
Wait where is the extra vein? Got disbanded cause we never found it
Up on some pillar. I've lost this like 10X. Why do my teams have so much trouble with a basic omorian extraction???
im also stuck with another guy finding 3 morkite
Refueling room, up on a pillar. Hard to describe beyond that but have faith it's there
what room is that god forsaken morkite vein in
where to go to invite people to a deep dive?
ah, LFG channels. sorry, answered me own question
not sure, never done one. Tried one solo because I thought maybe someone could join if I listed it publicly but no dice
I died in the first cave, would be interesting to see if it's the same, if people join...
Same caves and pre-spawned enemies like spitballer and leeches
It changes each week
people cannot join mid game with deep dives
afaik
This is correct.
morkite bugged again on edd?
just very well hidden
in the biggest room , if your looking in the heartstones direction its on your left
on drilldozer stop level height wise?
Leaning pillar in refueling room, walk under it and look up.
yeah, its where the drill dozer stopped
Ya think that's done deliberately?
No, I don't think the devs handcraft maps... it's just RNG being RNG.
ngl the only annoying part of this edd was the morkite in dozer
did the edd as a duo lol
Gah, when team mates build a bunker and don't tell you...
I am a bit doubtful of that bunker tactic. Seems you are setting yourself up to be overwhelmed if you want to leave it...
When done.
I mean probably? But we waited around for like 10 mins after it vanished hoping it would reappear, so I don't think it was hiding in a hole
Got a bug with the last deep dive, arbalest boss didn't come back again
After killing the lacerator
Oh hey you and me both
good bunkers have an 80% built escape route
but bunker is usually bad idea in general
What's up with the second stage of EDD not having enough Morkite? We can't find the last 4. It's always 146/150.
Check a pillar in one of the refuelling rooms
One of the nooks has a very, very well hidden vein of morkite
Interesting, thank you!
If you bunker here you probably going to get bulk detonated
Bunkering has a low win rate in my experience. Worked okay for the edd but man was it dicey and felt like luck that it worked. I always prefer just fighting and kiting.
Is it only me who cant find all the morkite on the weekly deep dive elite?
its behind a sand pillar in one of the last rooms
to the 'left' if youre facing the dozer from behind it
about 15m up and hidden decently well
my lord, thank you, was mid mission sorry i didnt read the previous logs
anytime
My team just got a random dreadnought spawn just as we were going to break the egg on EDD stage 3
It didn't count for the objective either
sometimes it be like that
I guess thats very likely to happen because i also got it
We almost ran out of ammo, worst deep dive i done so far for sure
We had two bulks as we popped the dread
rare opportunity to use the bulks to kill the dread
as scout you can grapple past the unknown terror baiting an attack dealing high damage to the dreads
also i killed the hivegaurd with a resupply 
Man First stage is
i dont want to talk about it i got through it came through 2nd stage with no ammo
not solo
i love you
yo wheres rthe morkite im lost
Its behind a sand pillar in one of the last rooms
to the 'left' if youre facing the dozer from behind it
about 15m up and hidden decently well
yeah its strupid
go look in #drg-gallery if yo need EDD morkite stage two
How difficult are deep dives?
I'm working on promoting my scout and was thinking about doing a deep dive for the first time after but I have no idea how hard they are
deep dives are roughly haz 3
This EDD is one of the worst ever
esd are roughly haz 5
not at all lol
there have been much much worse
point extraction dreadnought combo is always horrible
plus low oxy
you should be able to handle deep dives if you can handle haz 3
