deep-dive-discussion

[jolly hazel]

its on r press, same with the subata embedded dets

yeah but it would increase the application of embedded

either quicker or more

which is the only reason I'd use it over mag size oc, for dreads

[little timber]

for dreads sure, but dreads are only 1 mission type

[hardy nacelle]

you can trigger it with a full mag by abusing born ready

[little timber]

otherwise the other two are just not needed

[little timber]

yea but waiting 5 seconds for a bug to die after you detted it kinda sucks

maybe ill try embedded dets mag size a bit

I was wrong about blowthrough not being good on embedded dets

im open to change

[hardy nacelle]

imo mag increase lets the dets work as a sort-of self defense weapon, by peppering the incoming edge of a swarm with dets and then proccing GIGO for the free dash

[little timber]

oh right I forgot thats why you dont take mag size

for get in get out

30 is enough to kill anything short of a dread, so if you have 40 you cant dump your whole mag as easily

[true lotus]

EDD is haz 4,5 - 5 - 5,5

?

[frail portal]

yep

[true lotus]

Oki

[little halo]

Does anyone think the developers will add more weapons because all the weapons are so cool

[rain spear]

yup

they leaked some stuff on the reddit

some crossbow looking thing

[little halo]

Oooh

That will be cool

[hardy nacelle]

next season is bringing in new secondary weapons

[little halo]

Great

[random rampart]

they'll put a new set of secondaries next season. also, i think this should go to #drg-chat, since this isnt about deep dives

[little halo]

Oh sorry I’m new to this discord

[burnt sandal]

https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/548430/extras/AboutThisGame_Top.gif

[digital chasm]

the fact that scout takes the zipline in this gif is greatly disturbing

[random rampart]

disturbing?

i sense an odd leaf love in the force

[tired needle]

This weeks EDD was actually EZ PZ god damm

[fringe kettle]

Sometimes it’s just more efficient

[tired needle]

If you're not making use of zips on the scout you're playing scout wrong

[digital chasm]

grappling hook is faster

[tired needle]

For 3.5 seconds zips are your friend

[burnt sandal]

maybe that scout is just going to mine the vein at the other end of the zipline

we don't know

[tired needle]

Does anyone even know what goes on in a scouts head

[rain spear]

what passives do you guys take as a driller for edd?

[tired needle]

The scout does even know

[rain spear]

lmao

[tired needle]

It's just "zippidy"

[rain spear]

Scout: FULL SEND!

[tired needle]

Edd stage 2 is actually laughable if you bunker down with driller and eng with repellent on plats

[burnt sandal]

i always go Vampire, Resupplier and Elemental insulation, but that's just personal preferences, use what you prefer

[tired needle]

You can never go wrong with iron will and field medic

Oh wait you said oassives

Passives*

[rain spear]

I was diggin vampire but i tried the damage reduction from vet dep

going back to vamp

iron will and field medic is definitely happening

[tired needle]

I know this is not edd related but on the subject of passives, have they ever said if they would add more or give you something else to spend perk points on?

[hoary cove]

they have talked about how they want to rework / add to the perk system for quite awhile. But since the next season is focused on the new secondaries, I wudnt expect any changes with them until after the next big update

[weary radish]

i decided to do my first solo DD, it was pretty fun as scout, but also very stressful.

[little halo]

Was it successful

[weary radish]

yeah. took me 2 hours but i succeeded

[sonic sandal]

This week's EDD, stage 3... a nightmare

[tired needle]

Were you playing with Randoms?

[hoary cove]

really? it was pretty easy for a haz 5 shield disrupt

[sonic sandal]

Yep

Everything was smooth until the mactera plague stage 3

[tired needle]

Thats stage 2

[sonic sandal]

We had 2 drillers, maybe that had something to do with it

Wha?

[tired needle]

Mactera plag is stage 2

[sonic sandal]

Hmm, not sure what I'm thinking then. Oh, yeah—there were two naeodcyte breeders at the beginning that we couldn't really take out for some reason

I just remember the mactera nightmare

[hoary cove]

that’s stage 2

[sonic sandal]

We definitely completed stage 2

I think it was tight, but we downed pretty early on stage 3

[tired needle]

Stage 2 if you have an eng with repellent plats and a driller who knows how to make a good bunker it is super easy

[hoary cove]

stage 3 is linear morkite mining and mules

it’s really easy

nothing shud even spawn at the start

[sonic sandal]

I was engineer, I did a repellant shindig and it worked OK, but two drillers and neither of them bunkered

[tired needle]

Stage 3 if you dont sprint into the main cave right away and take it slowly its pre easy

[hoary cove]

naw i bum rushed it and still did fine

[tired needle]

Aside from taking down the breeders

[sonic sandal]

We were taking it slow, but the two breeders were out of our sightlines so the naedocytes just kept coming and draining our ammo

[hoary cove]

i did it as a duo with a gunner

[hoary cove]

that’s def stage 2. There are no breeders on stage 3 i think

[tired needle]

We got a swarm as soon as we were about to go into the main cave so we just backed up and funneled them into the smaller tunnel

[sonic sandal]

I'll try again this evening, maybe I'll have better luck

I'm like 99% that we had two breeders on stage 3

[hoary cove]

and i’m 99% certain there wasn’t a single breeder on stage 3

there wasn’t even a large cave

[tired needle]

I played too many games yesterday after the edd so i honestly cant remember if there were breeders or not lol

[weary radish]

if i do EDD, do i get another round of awards? (matrix cores) even though i did the regular dd?

[sonic sandal]

Hmm, well I guess I’ll just have to try again. My memory of it all is a bit foggy, but I know we got through stage 2

[sonic sandal]

Yes

[weary radish]

well: time for solo round 2.

im gonna die horribly lmao

[glossy walrus]

we definitely had a breeder on stage3, the position was right after a tiny opening from a high up tunnel (with holes to fall down) with a spitballer and macteras covering it

ended up wiping there because I fell down the hole while running from some slashers that came up, and things snowballed from there

[rain spear]

ugh i can barely make it past stage 2 on edd

[glossy walrus]

and this was definitely stage3 not stage 2

[rain spear]

i got past once out of like 6 attempts

[glossy walrus]

for reference this was 3p on ps

[sonic sandal]

That was it, exactly

[glossy walrus]

the positioning of the tunnel made it really annoying to shoot the breeder because it was a tiny opening

a guy on my team had the good idea to drill out a window to shoot, but in hindsight I should've just drilled a separate path down because fighting up there kinda sucks with that hole to fall down behind us

then after I fell, he fell because of a spitballer shot and that was that

[opaque kite]

yo wtf i just solo'd the elite deep dive 0_o

which isnt that crazy of a feat but take into consideration that im usually pretty stupid

[burnt sandal]

well, congrats

[sonic sandal]

Yeah @glossy walrus , we had 2 drillers, gunner and engie (me) and it was just hard for us to really put a dent in the breeders at that range. I think there were two. We managed to get one before leaving that little hole, but there was another one like waaaay back to the right that we were going after when we got swarmed on

[glossy walrus]

oh how fun, we didn't make it past the first so didn't get a chance to meet the second

[opaque kite]

yeah there were no servers open so I said "screw it maybe I can get the blank core" and then somehow did it

[glossy walrus]

definitely sounds like a job for drilling a path down then

[true anchor]

elite deep dive server open now lol

[opaque kite]

well i'm dived out lol

[true anchor]

fair

[sonic sandal]

For sure, were I to try again I'd probably shoot for trying the same thing

[opaque kite]

did it on stock driller as well, had a mactera warning in the 2nd cave and my sibata was a godsend for that

[hoary cove]

bruh i might be dum cus i don’t remember that at all

[glossy walrus]

the location or the breeder?

if it's breeder maybe the spawn is different on 2p vs 3/4p, though I have no idea if that's a thing or not

I only know about solo vs non solo differences

[rain spear]

breeders are easy if you freeze em.. its just getting to them thats a pain

[old widget]

yeah, static spawns can differ with player count

[rain spear]

i was wondering about that

[jolly hazel]

spider man

into the cave leech

[timber rune]

What does "3p on ps" mean?

[hoary cove]

3 player on playstation

[short charm]

So, took Shield Battery Booster for this one... Pretty damn awesome when it works. Until it doesnt. But even when it doesnt, its "just" a stock Drak with extra ammo. I also used Zhuks with Gas Recycling and blowthroug+conductive bulllets and IFG on this EDD.

On the last stage, with 2 other dwarves down... We got a Dread spawn.

And on the very next 400 morkite mission I did, we got another Dread spawn. What are the odds?! We made it through though, but this is what I love about this game. The insane curveballs that keep things interesting.

[jolly hazel]

I mean its a bit less than a stock drak but ya

shield battery booster is "how good are you at kiting, reall?" The Overclock

i got 3 praetorian swarms in a row on edd 2-3 weeks ago

[burnt sandal]

wdym a bit less ? it's literally stock DRAK with extra ammo 😛

(and a bit of heating but whatever)

[jolly hazel]

I wouldnt call 50% cooling, 150% heat gen, and 200% overheat time just a bit of heating

plus the penalty if you do accidentally overheat

you get 50 whole ammo and 1 rof to overheat faster lol

I guess manual heat dump makes it easier to manage than the rof tier 5 mod but then u don't get funny haha facemelting dps

id consider TEF more of a stock drak with a bit of heating oc lol

[tardy saffron]

Can any recommend a cryo cannon build for Edd this week I don't have any good overclocks for it

[cunning thistle]

Cold radiance.

[tardy saffron]

Just cold radiance

[cunning thistle]

Man that second stage was tough.

[jolly hazel]

ammo capacity

if u don't have an oc

freeze rate

[cunning thistle]

cold radiance is the only one that really matters. take ammo too

[tardy saffron]

I wanna freeze these fucking dreadknoughts fast and take as less damage as possible

Those one shots are annoying

[jolly hazel]

don't get hit

do u have dash

[tardy saffron]

When they spam stomp close range i can't move

Yes I do

Last night on the second part my team screwed us out of a victory

[jolly hazel]

key is to stay at max cryo cannon range and dont go inside

it comes with time to learn the range

or else u fucking die cuz u have .5 seconds to react at haz 5

[tardy saffron]

We did the black box last and got a sandstorm with maceration swarm

[old widget]

Eh. I like to get in close for that sweet radiance. Does require you to learn the timing 100% tho

[fervent oxide]

Cold Radiance over Fragile?
Well, if you trust your team to actually take out frozen enemies, I guess Cold Radiance is better

[jolly hazel]

I just watch for it to stop moving lol

[old widget]

Radiance is just incredibly brokenly powerful. I always, always pick it over fragile

[cunning thistle]

we have mactera plague. Cold radiance is even better now

[fervent oxide]

Oooohhh, that makes sense

[old widget]

Getting bit? Hold M1

[fervent oxide]

What's the freeze rate of Cold Radiance? Is it the same as the Cryo Cannon itself?

[tardy saffron]

Wanna hear my upgrades for cryo cannon

[cunning thistle]

way more

[fervent oxide]

Oh hang on, it's on the wiki :

 Cold Radiance will cool things down in a radius around you, eventually freezing any creature close to you.
The effect is only active while firing and will activate once per second.
    Cold Radiance Effects
        - Area Damage: 60 Cold
        - Radius: 4m

jesus CHRIST

[cunning thistle]

yeah like 6x more

[tardy saffron]

21232

[cunning thistle]

This is why you don't take fragile

Fragile is still good though

[fervent oxide]

I knew it froze stuff, but I didn't know it was -60c per second, holy hell
I'm a gold 1 driller, I really should check the wiki more often

[terse lagoon]

Cryo cannon with max freeze buildup is actually insane with a team

Praetorians simply don’t exist

[tardy saffron]

For cryo cannon do u run both ammo upgrades or one and the range increase

[fervent oxide]

Hmm, unless you're using an overlock to increase freeze power, I recommend getting more freeze power

[cunning thistle]

10 freeze power is the sweet spot.

with cold radiance you get away with less

[tardy saffron]

I don't have a oc for freezing power

[fervent oxide]

For example, Grunts need -30c to freeze
with -10c freeze power, you need 3 ammo to freeze 'em
with anything less, you need 4 ammo

[tardy saffron]

How about 31232?

[fervent oxide]

That would still be only about -9c freeze power

I highly recommend getting Supercooling Mixture in tier 4

[cunning thistle]

go -8 with more ammo instead of -9 imo

[fervent oxide]

oh yeah true

[tardy saffron]

I can do 9 with more ammo

[fervent oxide]

unless you can get -10c, then there isn't much of a difference at all between -8c and -9c

[tardy saffron]

It could get 10 but I would only have 575 ammo though

[cunning thistle]

yeah don't do that

[tardy saffron]

Didn't plan to

[viral tulip]

base freeze power is totally fine, especially with cold radiance

[tardy saffron]

True

[cunning thistle]

11132?

[viral tulip]

You might have a harder time against bulks and dreads but it's not all that game changing against normal bugs

[tardy saffron]

Hm

[tardy saffron]

It's looks good

[cunning thistle]

maybe take the range if you want to hit the mactera

so 2 on T2

[tardy saffron]

But the fuel flow rate would help with for freezing faster

[cunning thistle]

yeah

[tardy saffron]

I have the epc for mactera

[cunning thistle]

it is dps/ammo economy choice pretty much

cold radiance triggers every second no matter what

[tardy saffron]

Plasma burn epc

With the energy rerouting ov

I'm gonna try 31232

I do have a overclock but I don't like it

Its the flow rate expansion

[cunning thistle]

yeah that one sucks

[burnt sandal]

nah

it's another playstyle but it doesn't suck

[cunning thistle]

well it makes life difficult for me. But sure It could be used

[jolly hazel]

iirc

the difference between 11 and 10 freeze is negligible

so once u get tuned cooler don't bother with freeze rate

[cold skiff]

tuned cooler goes so hard

remember to take the damage mod on your drills as well

run vampire perk and impact axe

[crimson tinsel]

I haven’t used Cryo in ages

[cold skiff]

freeze then drill is how i take care of most fodder. freeze into impact axe + pickaxe charge attack is how i solo praetorians and oppressors

run vampire also so u get like, all ur hp back, lmao

with cold radiance especially, you can pretty much walk up to big enemies and freeze them before they even have a chance to attack you

i have never stopped using cryo lol. tried flamethrower and sludge cannon. they're super fun, but i feel they just make him work harder, and ultimately do stuff that other classes do already

flamethrower doesnt offer anything particularly good besides sticky flames maybe (sludge cannon does this better already), and instantly killing robots when they are set ablaze. sludge cannon is definitely a lot more useful but gunner can just neurotoxin an entire swarm (including enemies on walls and ceilings), and theyre already slowed to a crawl anyways

[crimson tinsel]

I use max reach flames and then swap to fire round full auto Sub

[cold skiff]

yeah thats a fun build. p sure thats what i use for triangular prism boss mission

[quasi loom]

what's the EDD this week?

[cold skiff]

should be pinned

[quasi loom]

thanks

[balmy axle]

this is irrelevant because you're using cold radiance

and cold radiance makes up the difference anyway

[cursive lodge]

Thunderhead feels like it's underperforming in the edd. Stage 2 specifically. How are you gunners setting up for this edd?

[dusty meadow]

Build for aoe, neurotoxin, cp, or others, get scout to shoot flares....profit. did last week edd twice and had 0 deaths

[cursive lodge]

I'm talking about this week's edd, not last week's. I'm set up with Neurotoxin oc and aoe mods. Was great last week, sucks against the mactera and jug this week.

[dusty meadow]

I did this week on a scout. I just build it the same way. Mactera target your last position, so either just strafe, shield, or something is what I do.

[pallid copper]

I beat stage two with bullet hell on my leadstorm

[west merlin]

Oof I finished this weeks' DD in 45 minutes 37 seconds.
So close to getting the achievement

If I really wanted it I could just replay the same mission of course. I'll get it someday.

[quasi loom]

I just completed my first solo edd!

[cursive lodge]

Excellent 👍 which class?

[quasi loom]

gunner with a AOE autocannon build.

[cursive lodge]

What plan did you use for stage 2?

[zinc crypt]

Sup fellas

How's the deep dive treating you?

[quasi loom]

I used a lot of small bunkers that i build with a pick, two in than angel left or right

[digital chasm]

on stage 2 of the normal deep dive there are 4 leeches near one of the morkite wells

consider yourself warned

[jolly hazel]

aye

4p

[tardy saffron]

Question how would I deal with mactera swarms as driller?

[worthy hill]

handgun secondary has extra damage to mactera. freezing them also kills them instantly, or you can throw C4 into a pack of them and kill them all

[pseudo kindle]

Epc when you get good at it is the way I do it

[worthy hill]

flamethrower works too, just gotta dance around the bug spits

[pseudo kindle]

1 charged epc in the middle of the horde = no more mactera

Even on lethal

[tardy saffron]

I run plasma burn on mine

To avoid as much damage as possible should I dig a little bunker before the swarms appears?

[worthy hill]

mactera don't usually hit you if you're running and jumping side to side. tri jaws also can't hit you if you walk toward them

you might get hit once or twice, but probs not die

[tardy saffron]

Should I run thin containment field then

[hardy nacelle]

yes

tcf shreds macs

[tardy saffron]

Thanks for telling me I have been wondering why mactera won't die

[hardy nacelle]

aoe damage in general is good for mac swarms

since they like to clump up

[tulip idol]

run snowball for mactera plague

[pseudo kindle]

I thought thin containment was literally a must

Who doesn’t run thin containment on epc?

[hardy nacelle]

I run HH plasma burn on my coom cannon build

[tardy saffron]

I don't have snowball oc

[tulip idol]

er, fn and trunqs also exist

[next pebble]

Mactera toxin subata

[hardy nacelle]

lel

[tulip idol]

mactera toxin er good

[worthy hill]

yeah 3 pistol shots to weak spot kills

[tardy saffron]

Mactera toxin with tranq?

[tulip idol]

sure

but need strong primary too for dealing with crowd

[tardy saffron]

Cryo

[tulip idol]

ice strom for instance

[next pebble]

Flammenwerfer

[tulip idol]

or facemelter

[tardy saffron]

Don't have any mods for my cryo cannon

[worthy hill]

goo gun or sticky flame build,. get it on the ground, walk away and shoot things in the air, walking bugs die before they get to you

[jolly hazel]

don't u have cryo

[next pebble]

Seriously though, flamethrower and subata work fine for your purposes

[jolly hazel]

cryo instakills mactera

[tulip idol]

unless they don't step into puddles

[tardy saffron]

I do but they kill me before I can react I might need to do a little bunker downward

[tulip idol]

autosubata + flamer is classic build but it gets outshined by many others

you hear the spawn - look around and kill stuff

I hear spawns across the cave like 90%+ of the times

I hear even how spitters and exploders are crawling around

every their step gets noticed

[left mango]

What's the best missions for xp? Looking to power level my Gunner up to promotion level

[tulip idol]

might be 3-3 expeditions

but idk cause with u35 changes they changed the rewards for different lengths

[cerulean lichen]

Anythig you like to do tbf, just rush the objectives, dont focus on mining

[tulip idol]

today I helped greenbeard go through his first edd

he said he was amazed he did it with first attempt

and I was like did you really think I'd loose?

hell no

[cerulean lichen]

Did the guy join you or did you just join a random lobby?

[tulip idol]

I joined vc channel in discord

we teamed up and just went through it

I guided all the way

[cerulean lichen]

Thats great actually

[tulip idol]

and then he said that but looking at who my mates are it's not that surprising 😄

and I'm like there we go

no doubt in veterans

[jolly hazel]

strafe diagonally

knocked out dd and edd

holy shit that was a lot of mactera on stage 2 lol

at least 30 in that big cave if not more

[tulip idol]

that's rookie numbers

[jolly hazel]

it is jarring to see a wall of mactera at a cave enterance

many gunner shields were used

[hoary cove]

try learning how to use tcf

[balmy skiff]

Do you think a search and rescue mission would be feasible in deep rock galactic?

[fringe kettle]

that's kinda what salvage is

[tardy saffron]

Epc: 22222
Oc energy rerouting

Good overall?

[unkempt saffron]

Yes its a solid oc

[novel kestrel]

praise the ancestors that dive kicked my ass. took four runs to finally get past that mactera defense

[barren girder]

this weeks elite deep dive was easier than last weeks besides stage 2

[novel kestrel]

I honestly had an easier time last week. Might have just had a solid team, but mission 2 sucked way more than last week

[wraith shard]

Anyone in here try stubby em discharge on this edd?
Was thinking of messing around with it for fun when I can get on

[hoary cove]

it’s extremely good in general, but might struggle with mactera

[wraith shard]

After doing the edd with randos I can safely say that much of the playerbase is deaf
People just don't hear exploders or learn to pay attention After dying 5 times to them

[wraith shard]

two dreads, mactera plague, and shield disruption

bad idea

[wraith shard]

that's the classic build

[unkempt saffron]

The dreads and shield disruption wasnt too bad in all honesty, but the mactera plague and exploder infestation will give a much more severe headache imo

Especially with randos

[thorny geyser]

Depending on biome, I change between auto-subata and semiauto with ricochet. Sometimes you need a bit of ranged plinking.

[true lotus]

Shield disruption is literally the worst

[wraith shard]

do i only get cores on the first time doing a new deep dive or do i get them everytime i play one?

[burnt sandal]

only for the first time each week.

[true lotus]

Macteras are ass

[burnt sandal]

no, they are mactera

[true lotus]

Shit you right hahahha

[amber belfry]

From what I gather the hardest thing about the EDD are the Mactera's on Stage 2?

[brazen orchid]

its managable when engi know how to make roofs while stuck on the bubble.

[unkempt saffron]

Or drop gunner shields when the squadrons of macteras arrive

[true lotus]

YES

Imo hardest part

But with my drak with fire oc and my cryo grenades it was managble

[glossy walrus]

drilling out an underbunker works nicely too

[chrome crystal]

So the edd looks easier than last weeks on paper.... but is it?

[burnt sandal]

See for yourself and try it

[chrome crystal]

All the mules means guaranteed pods..

[chrome crystal]

Alas, I am at work and can not.

Maybe in a few hours.

[jolly hazel]

I think we ended up with 5+ supply pods at end of stage 3

didn't even get a swarm

[short charm]

That EDD sure was interesting. I took Shield Battery Booster, so of course we had to get a shield disruption on stage 3. Which turns the gun into "just" the stock Drak with 50 more ammo. So all in all it's not too bad in that regard. Half the team was down on stage 3 because people went too close to the mini mules when we also had an active wave, spawning even more things. And just as the only two people still standing got the wave cleared, mission control announced that a Dread was coming, oooooh boy!

We did make it through tho. And on the very next mission, a 3/3 400 morkite mission... Mission control once again told us that yep, another Dread is coming, have fun! The odds of this happening like this, they ain't high.

[true lotus]

Imo it was easier than the last 2

[open ledge]

Stage 3 was kinda bad

With no shield

Stage 2 wasn’t too bad because we had cryo driller and would time the use of cryo nades on scout whole gunners shield recharged

[fresh ember]

I know this is deep dive, but no one is answering me on normal chat lol. What mods do y'all drillers use with the experimental plasma charger? Just unlocked it

[steel stirrup]

think most people do thin containment field mining with it

[chrome crystal]

Good

[opaque kite]

Yo out of the blue question but anyone know if you can get the same dreadnought twice in different missions of a deep dive?

[burnt sandal]

yes

[jolly hazel]

yes 1/3 chance on seed gen

[eager palm]

22222, if you intend to use it for TCF (which you should)

[tiny laurel]

Where should someone go for deep dive worthy builds

[eager palm]

karl.gg can be pretty hit or miss because you don't know who's making the builds

https://karl.gg/preview/7345#/

this guy's stuff is good

if aimed at a much higher difficulty

[ashen veldt]

Wdym?

Like, for the rocks?

[ashen veldt]

Oh nice! I just made a build for that the other day, but I'm still getting a feel for the thing. How do you use it effectively? I think I've mostly got a hang of how to take advantage of the OC, but I don't really know how to make use of its power. Should I be trying to fire at stronger targets and let other people take care of smaller guys?

[glossy walrus]

making a roof over the black box so mactera can't shoot you from above

though if you're a driller, just drill out an underbunker, same result and doesn't rely on an engie

[short charm]

I just use it to kill just about anything, it turns the DRAK into a seriously strong weapon. But I also take the upgrade that electrocutes stuff, which means you can burst down big targets with the Zhukovs nicely. I also took IFG grenades to help with this. I liked this combo but there are many combos that work equally well.

[ashen veldt]

Ahhh very cool!

What do you use on the zhukovs? And why IFGs? I might be sleeping on electricity a bit, but I figured the slowdown from the DRAK might be enough

Then again, cryo's are a bit more limited, and it's not like the scout doesn't have enough power to begin with with this OC

[burnt sandal]

IFG give 30% more damage on enemies in the field

help a lot with bursting down tanky enemies

[ashen veldt]

Oh, do they?

[burnt sandal]

yes

[ashen veldt]

Is that exclusive to IFGs, or is that electricity generally?

[burnt sandal]

and unlike cryo, they don't turn off the weakpoints

[burnt sandal]

exclusive to IFGs, it's in the stats of the grenade IIRC

[ashen veldt]

Hm, nice! I didn't know that

Do you know what the base weakpoint damage is? I know cryo brings all damage up to x3

[random rampart]

That's the point of IFGs themselves: inhibitor field generators

[random rampart]

2x I think

[burnt sandal]

base weakpoint is x1

then it all comes down to the enemy itself

Praetorians have 1x but grunts have x2 and warden have both x2 and x3

check each creature's respective pages to know more

https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Deep_Rock_Galactic_Wiki

[ashen veldt]

So it's normal damage + weakpoint, pretty much, and weak point is always at least double damage?

Or am I misunderstanding

[burnt sandal]

weakpoint damage depends on the enemy and the weakpoint you're shooting at

[ashen veldt]

Mhm, but when you say x1 on praetorian, is that damage multiplied by 1, or is that damage + x1?

[burnt sandal]

Neither, it just means you're dealing normal damage + bonus weakpoints
while on a grunt you would deal double damage + bonus weakpoints (because x2)

[ashen veldt]

Ahhhh

Okay I sort of get it I think.

Wish I could find the damage formula on the wiki though

[burnt sandal]

Ask the people in #wiki-related-chatroom

they are the brains here 😛

[ashen veldt]

Oh gnarly! Thank you

Ngl, I've never scrolled that far down in the sidebar

[viscid oak]

EDD done …that stage 2 is a pain for sure

[short charm]

I use Gas Recycling on the Zhukovs, then blowthrough rounds, conductive bullets and so on. IFG gives 30% extra damage, conductive bullets give an additional 30% and with the DRAK its easy to electrify anything you like so you can get the extra damage. Also, Gas Recycling brings the Zhuks up to 16 damage per bullet so you can easily deal with swarmers and such. Especially with Blowthrough rounds.

[ashen veldt]

Oooo

I actually have that overclock. May need to try that out

[cursive lodge]

I think this week's is harder. Specifically stage 2. If team is not properly prepared for the Mactera and drop pod prep, you are doomed. Still haven't made it to stage three.

[jolly hazel]

shoot the glowing green bits

also no prepping for drop pod correctly will make u fail haz 5 regardless lol

[woeful quarry]

Did anyone else have trouble finding the last arqvark on stage 3 normal dive? Spending minutes looking for it ruined my achievement by 2 minutes 😭

[gritty apex]

I had a dreadnought appear on the Deep Dive today 😐

It wasn't even one of the objectives

[meager wyvern]

Edd done

[open ledge]

same here

[jolly hazel]

arqvark lol

[random rampart]

aq🅱️arq

[stuck swan]

What is the mactera count phase 2 like my god

[digital chasm]

how many mactera in phase 2?

yes

[stuck swan]

I can speedrun phase 1 but phase 2 is insane

[random rampart]

i tried this week's dd. suffice to say, even with 900h and 250 player levels, i got almost clean on ammo on s1, making myself a greenbeard

[brisk pagoda]

well you can attempt it again, since everything will be in the same spot you can just haul ass without needing to search around

[jolly hazel]

there is more than 1 mactera

[random rampart]

at least 0 macteras

[woeful quarry]

Yes but that means having to play the same dd :D

Btw. Does anyone know if machine events can spawn in the same cave as data centers and prospectors?

[meager wyvern]

Too many

Just make a hole to the ground and make them come for you

I had oppressor swarms like million times on the first one so annoying lol

like at one point there were 5 oppressors

[slow acorn]

Dammit the 2nd stage of the EDD is nightmare fuel this time

failed 2 times

[wraith shard]

I dunno if you're doing it solo or in a group but with a group it can be tough getting people to fight in the tunnels instead of running out and dying before enough mactera are killed

[old widget]

“Same cave” as in the same map? Or same prefab cave section?

I’ve seen some spawns pretty close together of machine event and prospector data store. They can spawn in same map and fairly close together.

(Though neither can spawn in deep dives, so probably a better question for #drg-chat)

[woeful quarry]

I meant same map. Ive been having some issues finding MEs lately and wondered if i should leave and re-try after id find a data deposit

Oh shoot my b. Thought this was drg chat

[old widget]

Yeah all the percent chance stuff is independent, finding one won’t make it less likely to find another.

They did change ME spawn chance in Update 35 so that spawn chance is higher the longer the mission (more “feet” symbols)

So if you’re farming for MEs, go for longest missions (8 eggs, 10 aquarqs, etc)

[meager wyvern]

make tunnel solution to all of your problems

I managed to throw 4 axes in row with reload cancel to dread with controller was kinda nice

[slow acorn]

you mean digging down to hell and make 1 exit and plug the upper hole?

[meager wyvern]

https://imgur.com/a/JsvrYyI

I made these kinda tunnels

reds are players

to the ground or wall depending on placement

to kill the macteras

[main anvil]

Is special powder viable for this edd?

[meager wyvern]

I was driller no engi so no plug

[torpid jewel]

just finished my first Deep Dive and it was hella hard to do by myself

and i rewarded myself by drinking a Blackout Stout while doing the Krasotzy's Kick to some Tango music

[cold plaza]

deep dive so easy this week

last week took 7 tries due to fucking letal bugs

[torpid jewel]

well i did only just promote my Driller and it was also my first so i kinda struggled with it

[vapid ore]

Anyone is Aus wanna help me with my first deep dive?

[ashen veldt]

Aus like australian servers?

[jolly hazel]

fantastic artwork

[dawn jasper]

anyone new??

[jolly hazel]

maybe

[meager wyvern]

I consider myself as an artist

[glossy dock]

It only seems like all of 'em

[ashen veldt]

It's never bad to take, imo. If you've got a driller who can tunnel on stage 2, your boomstick can take out some macteras

[main anvil]

If it isnt i wont do it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ashen veldt]

What's your alternative?

Oh, you mean the deep dive

Nvm lol

Anyone looking to do one of the deep dives? I haven't done either yet

[old widget]

You might try the #lfg channel for your platform

[ashen veldt]

Fair, yeah. I'm getting impatient ig lol

[chrome crystal]

Macs is easy cheese. Cryo driller and cryo nade scout should keep the air clear enough.

Just gotta watch out for the snatchy long feengies.. <.<

[west merlin]

Oh TIL about percent chance for longer missions. I thought they just raised it overall.
That probably means 10 aquarks are best since it's still such a small cave, at least if you're going with the "quit after completing the ME" strat.

[west merlin]

Congrats! I'd aim to do them with internet randos instead. But then I generally prefer that over solo.

[torpid jewel]

hey thanks!

i don't really like playing with a randomized group usually

but if i try doing the Elite Dive i'm probably going to do that

[hollow maple]

Sigh anyone up for edd

Randos are really killing me rn

[formal prism]

I'm not sure how much you've tried in drg specifically but randoms are typically an awesome experience. In my 430+ hours most of them are solo with randoms

[torpid jewel]

ah

i haven't done much online stuff with the game yet, mostly just played with a friend of mine and solo missions. most games are kinda eh with randos but so far i've heard the opposite with this game

[formal prism]

Yeah obviously do what you enjoy. If you did give randoms a shot I think you could be pleasantly surprised. I think I've only encountered like 4-5 unpleasant people in my time played

The rest are

[torpid jewel]

oh nice

i'll give it a shot next time i do a Deep Dive

[formal prism]

The core gameplay mechanics also facilitate teamwork so people revive you, help you, etc, because it all helps the squad

[torpid jewel]

yeah true

the survival bonus is boosted based on how many make it out and having people down in the team is bad for everyone

[formal prism]

yeye

[graceful charm]

Drg Deep dives (and several other things) has been glitchy for me at least. It refreshed yesterday but then again today

[left sleet]

Anyone else think the DD/EDD this week seems a lot easier than previous weeks? I had tons of nitra at the end of both and didn't get into a situation where everyone was downed

I think the only part that could've been difficult was that crazy mactera swarm

[lunar helm]

EDD is really pretty easy this week

[little halo]

I’m doing a solo DD any pointers

[hoary cove]

it’s usually not too hard tbh, even this one is above average difficulty

[past basin]

Did my first DD today and died on the last aquarq :/

[little halo]

I just finished the aquarq part solo now onto on site refining

[zinc socket]

WhELP

I think I'm calling this weeks deep dive, "Molly's Day Off" because, blimey.

And I PANICED at the start of stage 3. STARTING an aquark mission with an hour passed already, knowing it was going to be endless waves the entire time... just ... wow.

[hoary cove]

what do u mean?

the waves shudnt be endless

[zinc socket]

Did they fix the bug?

Used to be that the 20 minute timer before waves go insane on an aquark mission did NOT actually count from the start of the stage in a deep dive, but instead used the start of deep dive.

So arriving in a stage 2 or 3 aquark mission, it thought you'd been there for half an hour or so, instead of just arriving.

And then, boom, endless wave.

[hoary cove]

didn’t feel like it for me

[zinc socket]

So... I don't remember seeing the bug listed on the list of squashed bugs... did they ever get around to it?

[hoary cove]

ur talking about the deep dive right?

i have no clue

[zinc socket]

shrugs I started stage 3 in the deep sive, an hour in, and it felt like an endless slaughter. First thing I saw on landing was multiple overlords and pratorians moving right on me.

[hoary cove]

point extract always has passive swarm at the start. I didn’t notice it feeling endless tho

[meager wyvern]

I think it is random. We had only oppressor swarms on 1st mission of elite deep dive

[hoary cove]

if it was in edd i cud probably say for certain

[hoary cove]

swarms themselves are random, but static spawns are the same

[meager wyvern]

ok

[zinc socket]

Heh, like the huli hoarder in wave 1

I remember the time there was a deep dive where you pretty much landed the pod on a huli, GOOD resource farm that run

kill it, finish, abort.

[hoary cove]

i think there was a huli on 2 missions this week

[zinc socket]

shrugs anyway, as I said, I don't remember ever seeing the bug listed as fixed in the patch notes, so I'm going to continue to dread any deep dive with an aqurk mission in slot 2 or 3.

[little halo]

Guys I’m about to start stage 3

Solo engineer with lok1

[meager wyvern]

dd or edd?

[zinc socket]

Start of stage 3 is a little rough, but you DO start right near the eggs....

[little halo]

Did

[zinc socket]

nod that was what I just did.

[little halo]

Dd

[meager wyvern]

I forgot what it is but good luck

[zinc socket]

7 aquarks 2 eggs

You can do is skele!

[maiden berry]

shoutouts to the driller and engie who did both dives with me, yall were pretty cool

[little halo]

I just completed a deep dive

[little halo]

It took an hour as I was solo

[wraith shard]

Anyone know what the objectives are for the elite deep dives?

[burnt sandal]

check the pinned message

[wraith shard]

Oh my bad thanks

[burnt sandal]

np

[little halo]

Do you get the matrix cores if u do the dd again

[burnt sandal]

no

[little halo]

Ok then

[random rampart]

<@&296918282403840000>s are gonna love your offer then!

[still sonnet]

I'll take it

[random rampart]

Tommy took your offer, feel joy!

[balmy axle]

Solo EDD review:
Failed once because a wave started the second before I finished pressing the evac button and I got bodyblocked for 4 consecutive downs. That attempt was as Gunner, who also went down twice in the first two stages because boss fights are hard. And the missile launcher probably wasn't the best choice anyway.
Second attempt as Engineer was really easy in comparison - 0 downs through the whole playthrough. Having near-infinite smartrifle ammo makes even the stage 2 mactera plague a bit of a joke, and it's not too hard to duck into a tunnel system and spam the breach cutter and plasma bursters every time a wave starts. (Not to mention the horrifying things the BC does to Dreadnought HP bars when they don't have bonus health from other dwarves being around.) Shield Disruption isn't too rough because you can easily have 400 Nitra going into stage 3 - good thing this wasn't the capstone last week.
Placements for pipes and mules are fairly generous, but you'll have a little trouble with stage 2 if you go as a Driller. Why you'd try to solo a mactera plague as Driller, I have no idea. Oh, and the stage 2 dreadnought cocoon is embedded inside the roof, so have fun digging up from an outcropping unless you're using the breach cutter.
Only one Leech for me, on stage 1. Two gold lootbugs, I think (stage 1 and 2), and a Hoarder on stage 3. Unfortunately, no way to realistically speedrun this EDD. Final time was about 1 hour.

[balmy axle]

wow, i can't believe the mods would be so supportive of a small-time capitalist trying to make his way in the world

[random rampart]

Of course! When it comes to ||[[FREE KROMER AT HALF PRICE]]||, who cannot!

[ancient cove]

Holy crap all those mactera on stage 2 EDD.

Like an unending plague of locusts.

[main anvil]

Was it just me or was the normal dd this week really boring?

Like objectives where they were just long, and haz 3 gets boring after 45 minutes

[left sleet]

Just you not being challenged

[crimson tinsel]

If you get bored, make your own challenges. Group with newbies and see if you can prevent a single down, save the leftover minimule legs, etc

[solar ridge]

just did my first DD and wow

on the last one had 3 waves in a row

good thing i had doom music mod and enough red stuff for supply drop

was just running circles in a donut shaped cave

best 15€ i ever spent (not counting the dlc i bought)

[median parrot]

if u completed a deep dive do u still get rewards (i.e exp, creds, etc.)

[leaden cypress]

you get exp & creds if you do it again

along with minerals if you ever find hoarders

Other than that you won't unlock the matrix cores

[median parrot]

gotcha

thx

[main anvil]

I wish we could artificially inflate the difficulty of normal dds so we’re not bored doing them for the cores

[main sage]

yea it would be great if we could play the deep dive on EDD difficulty

[burnt sandal]

play them with 4 scouts with stock weapons

[meager wyvern]

use only pickaxe

[wintry isle]

What do y'all think would be a good driller loadout for the EDD this week?

[manic pivot]

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[meager wyvern]

cryo

[balmy axle]

second gunner (/s)

gotta be cryo this time, even in stage 3 it feels like way too many mactera spawn

[burnt sandal]

#lfg-steam

[wraith shard]

oops sorry

didnt notice

[ancient arrow]

lmaoooo

[dense root]

Where is the deep dive this week

The regular one

[upbeat obsidian]

@dense root
It's all in the pins, bro.

[fallen frost]

On a scale of 1-fubar how bad of an idea is it to deep dive solo?

[upbeat obsidian]

If you are comfortable in Haz 3-4, not a bad idea at all. This week is very busy if you take your time, though.

[fallen frost]

I can solo 3's easily, 4s can get rough. My usual group isnt about this week, so just was thinking of clearing it.

[wraith shard]

How hard is this weeks EDD

comparably to the standard

I didnt have trouble with the first one but we got destroyed stage 2

[hardy nacelle]

stage two is the hardest part

bunkering might not be a bad idea for once

[jolly hazel]

bulks aren't in the spawn pool i think

nobody has complained about one yet lol

[vale lintel]

I complain that there's not enough of them

[plain heath]

Never done a deep dive, finished my first one a few mins ago, took an hour... Of pure suffering, and fear, but still got it done

[weary vortex]

The sheer number of enemies during the fuel resupply phase of the second EDD is nuts. Wiped on it soooo many times.

[balmy axle]

b o s c o

[plain heath]

No helpo when no have ammo

[sonic sandal]

Yeah that was rough. Engie platform roof helped a lot in both attempts (1st failure on 3rd mission, 2nd a success) for me

[weary vortex]

I clearly don't understand how to build a roof correctly. They just went under it and kept bombing us.

[balmy axle]

take 4 gunners and invuln-tank for like 3 minutes

easy

[unkempt saffron]

Something thats slightly higher than dwarf height will do

[arctic blade]

i think my deepdive was bugged
kept spawning swarms every 30 seconds on all stages

[supple zinc]

I was in a duo run on EDD and well, unfortunately at the end of stage 2 waiting for the escape pod to open, a bulk spawned along with a cluster of macteras

And got us killed

So much pain

[viscid oak]

Breach cutter and cryo grenades help when they dip down under the platform ceiling gunner popping shield outside of picking people up helps too …just gives team a rest bite …plus taking fear on auto cannon

Speed and sticking together is key for stage 2 keeps unnecessary swarms at bay

[frail plume]

gonna attempt edd

never completed an edd before

any tips?

should we do public? me and my friend are a scout and an engi

[wraith shard]

do public and play with people over level 100... just pay attention to the nitra economy but this week's dds have plenty of it

[wraith shard]

tip for the scout, use the M1000 for this week's edd, really useful against both dreadnoughts and mactera plague

[frail plume]

i always have m1000 and zhuk + cryo

especially when big swarms come i cryo everything then kill all of it with the zhuk

[wraith shard]

https://tenor.com/view/giga-chad-gigachad-big-gif-21053844

[reef bison]

Lmfao attempted EDD with a level 371 (on playstation) engineer (and 2 other engineers). Wiped on third map. Level 371 had 26 downs. I had 1 lol

[burnt sandal]

lvl 371 ? interesting level.... 🤣

At least, that explain the downs

[meager wyvern]

Don't trust the levels I saw someone 150 and he was terrbile so I kicked him

[burnt sandal]

Well the game has been on playstation for a month so I can't see how anyone would be that high up already without cheating lol

the 26 downs are also pretty telling

[reef bison]

I would send a photo but you cant here

But yeah was pretty fuckin stupid

[frail plume]

i'm lvl 21

or 22

only lvl 30 of the pass tho

haven't been playing as much

i am afraid i won't reach the end in time

they're gonna be in lost packs anyways tho

[frail plume]

i'm a good scout

[burnt sandal]

there's no need for that
you'll want to grab a role in #welcome-and-rules though

[frail plume]

bruh lmao didn't mean to send that bigass sticker

[wraith shard]

well I made 250 levels in 250 hours... so if you play a bit you still have time

[frail plume]

how

that's 3 character levels an hour

[random rampart]

i think they mean pass level?

[frail plume]

oh right

[random rampart]

or speedrunning

[frail plume]

yeah

[random rampart]

p sure the former tho

[wraith shard]

I meant battlepass levels

more then 100 levels? why is it like that?

[wraith shard]

what do you mean? the more you play the more you level up

I have 250 hrs on the game and I'm around 250 on the battle pass

i always thought the battle pass only has 100 levels

[wraith shard]

the claimable prizes are 100 but you still get some credits every level after 100

nice

[wraith shard]

can anyone explain wtf a deep dive is

[burnt sandal]

https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Deep_Dives

the wiki page will do it better than I can 😛

[wraith shard]

will do

[jolly hazel]

tried out exhaust vectoring minigun verus mactera plague mission, if you are playing gunner and having major trouble on stage 2, minigun is pretty viable

[frail plume]

stage 2 of edd wish us luck

[jolly hazel]

try to take each mactera group individually and stay in that first entryway cave to chokepoint them

[frail plume]

stage 2 completed

first try suprisingly

barely made it

now last one

[frail plume]

we did it

first try

unfortunately had to leave the gunner behind on stage 2 and 3

but it's ok cuz he took 2 supplies each time

greedy pointy eared leaf lover

[burnt sandal]

congrats

[jolly hazel]

did he need 2 supplies

[frail plume]

i do not know

but it was 4 of us

so it should have been 1 each

[jolly hazel]

bastard dwarf

[frail plume]

indeed

[jolly hazel]

I would warn him first time cuz I cant do shit post-resup

then watch him on second resup

and kick if he went for 2

usually if you call them out though, they'll get defensive over it or indignant and then I just boot them anyways

[frail plume]

unfortunately nobody has mic on public ps4

[jolly hazel]

difficulty scales so you lose absolutely nothing kicking someone who's a shithead

[frail plume]

i shot him once when he was taking a second one and he just called another one and took it anyways smh

[jolly hazel]

were you hosting

[frail plume]

yeah

didn't think about kicking

apart from that he was a good teammate k

[jolly hazel]

fair

I guess unless someone has a mic, he can't ask someone for their resup

[frail plume]

yeah

he did always pop dreadnought cocoons as soon as he saw them tho

even if we were all low

but we managed to pull through

[jolly hazel]

yeahhhhh

[frail plume]

it took us 1h and 5 mins

[jolly hazel]

Is consider him a bit less than a good teammate

thats p good

I had one last 1:20

[frail plume]

not bad i'd say for all the secondaries done

[jolly hazel]

worst experience in my drg gametime

[frail plume]

lol

stage 2 extraction was scary lmao

2947284737 macteras

[frail plume]

yeah

[jolly hazel]

yeah I read that there's a lot in here before I did it

was still surprised about how many there were lol

[unkempt saffron]

oof thats a massive dick move imo

[frail plume]

yeah

[jolly hazel]

he would be gone first time he did it

[unkempt saffron]

even if yall pulled through if you pop something without letting the rest know imma kick

[jolly hazel]

for me

[frail plume]

i guess i was a bit too lenient

[jolly hazel]

I mean u got through it

which is great

battled through shitty teammates and adversity

[frail plume]

indeed

my first completed edd ever

i forgot to take a screenshot

fuck

[lean mason]

First time I've failed the DD more than the EDD. Got bad rolls on the random teammates for it

[jolly hazel]

always can solo!

this dd was probably the hairiest for me

dumb 4 cave leech

[velvet ginkgo]

What's the best class for soloing this week's Elite Deep Dive?

[hoary cove]

any, depends on preference and build

[velvet ginkgo]

I prefer Driller with which I have the Face Melter overclock for the CRSPR Flamethrower - so a close-range build.
I have an Engineer with the Explosive Chemical Rounds overclock for the LOK-1 Smart Rifle and I prefer using the Breach Cutter with the Light Weight Cases overclock.
I have a Gunner with a fire build: Burning Hell for the "Lead Storm" Powered Minigun and Volatile Bullets for the "Bulldog" Heavy Revolver. I also could use the Big Bertha overclock for the "Thunderhead" Heavy Autocannon or the Overtuned Feed Mechanism overclock for the "Hurricane" Guided Rocket System.

My Scout is unleveled. I haven't touched it. lol

[jolly hazel]

do not reccomend face melter especially this week with 2 dreads and mactera

id rexommend engie

based on what u have said

[wraith shard]

just finished elite deep dive :) loving it

[jolly hazel]

congrats

[wraith shard]

thanks

[jolly hazel]

ecr and breach cutter should be fine

I like pgl more but its up to u

[velvet ginkgo]

I don't have a single overclock for it unfortunately.

[wraith shard]

i used lok-1 and i only reccommend it if your in a team that love nitra. its just so ammo consuming no matter what build i take, its crazy

[velvet ginkgo]

Very true, but I love it with that overclock and besides, I have no overclock for the other primary weapons.

[jolly hazel]

if hes solo he has 4 to himself

[jolly hazel]

its pretty good with no oc but u have the best breach cutter oc

[hoary cove]

breach cutter is fine for mactera and so is ecr on loki

[wraith shard]

I also sadly dont have any overclocks with my other primaries (they all go to Gunner, I havent ever played him so I dont know why)

[wraith shard]

Ive got 3 overclocks, Eraser, Seeker Rounds, Armor tearing (or armour something)

[abstract oriole]

do deep dive and deep dive elite give the same rewards? E.g. if you do the elite you automatically got your 3 for the week, or do you do both for 6?

[hoary cove]

you have to do both to get all 6

[abstract oriole]

ty

[meager wyvern]

I hope next edd is harder even though did my first one last week

I want haunted house but not sure how hard it would be

[jolly hazel]

forgot if haunted cave dread mission is possible

that would suck

[burnt sandal]

it is possible

[jolly hazel]

in dd/edd?

I remember it being possible in normal play but I also remember someone saying certain combos are out of the rng generation

could be hearsay though

[old widget]

No haunted escort, that’s the only haunted exclusion I’m aware of

Definitely had haunted DD/EDD before, including the infamous hollow bough stage (“shattered armpit” IIRC)

Pinned messages has a link to a Google doc with the full history of every deep dive

[hardy nacelle]

ok y'all weren't lying, stage 2 edd is nuts

[lunar helm]

It's doable, just bring a class that can deal with it

[crimson tinsel]

There was one awhile back

Had to run back and forth between caves to fight

[lunar helm]

Cryo nades scout or cryo cannon driller, minigun gunner or engie with the breach cutter should all be able to handle mactera plague

[crimson tinsel]

And EPC if you’re good at it

[dire pulsar]

hey i'm looking for a group to do a deepdive with

the elite one for this week

[pallid goblet]

I need to do the same

[dire pulsar]

what do u play

[pallid goblet]

Goin to pod 7

Mainly driller can fill tho

[dire pulsar]

theres people in 7 tho

[pallid goblet]

noone here

[jolly hazel]

wasnt that recently

i think i remember that one

[pallid goblet]

do crtl + r

gets rid of ghosts

[jolly hazel]

does that work in game too

[pallid goblet]

just for discord

[jolly hazel]

😔

[pallid goblet]

I need it for real life too

[old widget]

2021-06-10, stage 2 of the EDD

https://youtu.be/-zrLnhsqVsc?t=1661 shows the carnage

[jolly hazel]

oh I didnt own the game yet lol

[old widget]

still the hardest thing I've ever done in DRG

(that vid isn't my run)

[jolly hazel]

harder than rumpus room salt pits?

[old widget]

ye

like 6 spitballers, 6 stabber vines, breeder, haunted cave, low nitra coming out of first stage, almost all nitra in stage 2 hidden in nasty places, and a dread secondary to take down too (which a lot of folks shot accidentally from the pod)

all in one hellish bowl

oh, and leeches too

and it's an egg mission

[jolly hazel]

wow that is a lot of stabber vines

watching it now

I swear these hell caves only show up in edds

[old widget]

note how this crew doesn't even pull their first egg until 15+ minutes into the stage

[jolly hazel]

I think I got a bowl shaped hollow bough once on haz 5 eggs

absolutely awful

[old widget]

someone needs a mod to let you replay old DD/EDD (although apparently cavegen can change a given seed, but would still be worth a try)

[jolly hazel]

the gauntlet

stack em all up and speedrun it

the hardest ones

[tranquil apex]

that second stage get ya? @minor atlas

third stage felt like a breeze compared to the second one

even with shield disruption

[jolly hazel]

didn't even get a swarm on 3

super short

[tranquil apex]

key for my group was to bunker both of the fuel cell things

with cryo cannon/cryo nades on scout was a breeze

[jolly hazel]

1?

its refinery, shouldn't have much pressure on you

esp once refining starts

[fickle fox]

anyone down to do the deepdive?

[old widget]

Refinery and point extraction mission types always have a welcome party. If you’re struggling, you can stay in the pod for a little while and let the bugs come to you

The welcome party is finite

But there can be a lot

Organization, definitely. OCs are nice but not really a req.

Your team has to step up too tho

Gunner should be shielding when things get too busy, engi can plop down repellant plats to help funnel bugs, just gotta think on your feet

Oh. PS4…yeah.

[weary vortex]

Finally beat the second level in this week's EDD. Wiped on the third but it's just a cosmetic so ehhh....

[hoary cove]

play other classes then

[glossy walrus]

driller can make bunkers to make swarms comfier too

scout's the main one who can't really carry a team well in edd since he just doesn't have the sustain for it

[hoary cove]

naw bunkers are boring

[vernal willow]

Yar, all classes best decision I made, all overclocks are fun finds now

[kindred pond]

you really should play other classes though, promo them all at least once so it isn't a pain in the ass to promote your main one

though maybe some people might willingly give up their xp points to keep playing just one class

maybe I'll become one such player once I promote all my dwarves to gold

[tranquil apex]

it really isnt bad to get all dwarves promoted once

[balmy axle]

drg game design moment

wait for next season when there's even more OCs diluting the pool for stuff you actually want

you really should promote every class once though

[radiant prawn]

Is it possible to do the Deepdive this week solo without OCs?

[balmy axle]

yes

deep dive is not even haz 4

the problematic one is the shield disruption which is only haz 3

[frail plume]

i did elite deep dive with only 1 oc on m1000 that gives 2 more bullets in clip and slightly faster reload so you should be good

[glossy walrus]

every class's base kit is very usable, it's not like you need ocs to do well

[tranquil apex]

agreed, one of my favorite things is that everything is viable in pretty much whatever you do atleast in the vanilla game

[tidal spruce]

I was about to have an argument with that statement, caught myself, and though for a second, and y'all are absolutely right

[eager palm]

I've done 4 player scaled haz 5 solo as scout with no OCs you definitely don't need them

[balmy axle]

pro tip: soloing is easier than a 4 stack unless you are the worst player in the 4 stack

most people don't realize this

I'd ask that on general

4 player scaled haz 4 is harder than solo haz 5

so 4 player scaled haz 5 is basically "haz 6" relative to playing solo

and on top of that you get 4x as much ammo solo

[eager palm]

Solo with the h5p4 mod is harder than solo with the haz 6 mod in my experience

Unless you mean that regular 4-person haz 5 is equivalent to solo haz 6, in which case I'd definitely disagree unless your team is real bad

[balmy axle]

nah

[lunar aspen]

@balmy axle hosting open haz4 matches and only greenbeards join --- oh were doing haz6 now

[balmy axle]

wasn't saying that lol

[balmy axle]

it sometimes feels like this tbh

[lunar aspen]

I've had someone go down like 25x - I don't usually kick people and in chat was like are you sure your ready to play this?

[balmy axle]

"i get knocked down and i get up again"

[hoary cove]

well then ur not gonna be using most ur overclocks then lel

just cus it’s not what you wanted doesn’t mean it’s not a good oc worth trying

bad rng

[jolly hazel]

1/4

[wispy monolith]

I just had the omen exterminator event as a Driller with the Cryo cannon. It felt like my damage output was miserable 😦 the cryo cannon wasn't doing anything.

[jaunty thorn]

Is it grinding if you are having fun (and its only a few hours of work)

That is shit

[meager wyvern]

that is absolute nightmare with cryo build even epc does nothing I just throw axes

[wispy monolith]

Thanks! I thought maybe it was me. Tried throwing a satchel, not sure how that worked because it exploded in my face and killed me 😀
Didn't have axes but the toxin grenades because I wanted to test them. Didn't use them because they seemed even worse to me.

[old widget]

Cryo cannon in most builds has very poor direct damage, so yeah. You’d need an Ice Storm OC build to really use your cryo primary there.

(Also probably better topic for #drg-chat since machine events can’t spawn in Deep Dives)

[unkempt saffron]

This isnt really related to deep dives, but youre gonna struggle against the omen as a driller in general, your best weapons against it are the obvious c4s, axes and tcf epc

[west merlin]

Play other classes for the joy of playing them then. That way you don't have to grind.

I played almost only Engineer for dozens of hours and discovered all the other classes are really fun in different ways

You just gotta get into the different mindset for each

[hoary cove]

it’s not rly a grind when within a few hours you can unlock 3 new guns

[meager wyvern]

Axe is the most OP throwable with driller. You have 8 of them. You can freeze oppresser, dread or whatever and deal tons of damage. I managed to throw 4 axes in row to frozen dread with reload cancel on edd imagine the damage

I use it to slay big enemies like oppressor or the lesser oppressors which name forgot like it kills them fast when you have frozen them with cryo

[fading gorge]

Praetorians?

[meager wyvern]

yes those lol

[hoary cove]

neurotoxin grenade is also extremely good, but it doesn’t cover drillers weaknesses as well as axes

[west merlin]

Yeah satchels are hard to use for combat, and not all that effective even when you do pull one off.

But you gotta throw it and then run in the opposite direction

Using them with Rock Mover to save drill fuel seems like the best use I've seen? but also gonna take time to learn

[hoary cove]

bruh theyr very effective, especially with stun

5 second horde stopping power

[meager wyvern]

Good way to use satchel is throw it in the air throw axe so it stays in air then you let the enemies come to you and boom

[glossy walrus]

oh yeah I forgot about that strat, if you're using volatile mixture does that set it off?

[hoary cove]

don’t use volatile

[meager wyvern]

I don't use it

[glossy walrus]

guess I'll have to try it later then

I expect explosions in my face

[unkempt saffron]

Theyre solid for things like iron will or the temporary revive invulnerability to clear a swarm on your body, kinda cointerintuitive with driller since you can use your drills and vampire them but hey theres this option too

[meager wyvern]

I use c4 more for swarms than big ones

[unkempt saffron]

Well thats the default way to use c4s in combat

[west merlin]

The main reason I don't use them much is just my primary gun can kill lots of small enemies almost as fast and more easily/safely

Probably would be good with sludge pump against lots of small guys

[meager wyvern]

I just use all for ammo economy

[jolly hazel]

c4 is god in escort

spawncamp the bugs

[quasi charm]

Just a question, is this normal to have two times the same mission type on a deep dive ? I think i never saw that before.

[azure apex]

Hey guys, I’m relatively new to the game and just about to hit my second promotion. Is anyone up for a deep dive on PS4/PS5 or am I in the wrong section

[burnt sandal]

what do you mean ?

[burnt sandal]

maybe try in #lfg-playstation

[quasi charm]

Stage 1 and 3 where aquarqs.

[azure apex]

Thanks

[burnt sandal]

yeah that's not surprising

[quasi charm]

Ok thanks, i thought it was, i think i never saw that.

[dapper musk]

Wait, dreads can be frozen? How much did it take to reach that point?

[meager wyvern]

Yes easily I use flow rate expansion you can basically tap the cryo endlessly if you tap it and if you use it full it resets shortly

I just freexe them and reload cancel spam axes

[dapper musk]

darn, Im a driller main. This is rock solid information

[old widget]

partner cryo driller with an engi with hyperprop and you have a dread deleting duo
except for maybe the twins unless you can reach them

[meager wyvern]

red one is somewhat easy to freeze but the yellow one always hangs in the wall

[hardy nacelle]

if you use cold radiance and get up in the face of a dread, you can freeze them in seconds

you just have to be hypervigilant for the aoe stomp on the old dread

[meager wyvern]

flow rate is really good I don't have the other one which is recommended often

I personally feel like cryo driller is essential to edd

[hardy nacelle]

gonna go see if I can find an open lobby that i can be driller in, since I found that I enjoy snowball

[burnt sandal]

it's not, but there's nothing stopping you from playing it

[meager wyvern]

Well you can solot with anything but easy to deal with swarms and dreads

in my opinion

[cursive lodge]

Finally beat stage 2 edd. Way harder than last week imo. Switched back to minigun on gunner and declared war on anything that flies. Driller with cryo helped a lot. Almost failed again while pod was prepping. 3 of us wiped. Scout took off to other side of map and managed to get on the pod.

[meager wyvern]

did you drill bunkers to kill the flies easily? That way it was not too hard

[hoary cove]

that’s too boring tho

[cursive lodge]

Driller wouldn't do it so I made makeshift bunkers myself with pick axe. Ironically I/we didn't use them too much. Kinda just backed into them a little bit. Mostly went guns blazing and alternated spamming shields with the other gunner.

[meager wyvern]

this was my 2nd edd I have done and started this game like some weeks ago so ofcourse I play to clear them most efficient way

[polar jungle]

bruh constant mactera

[chrome lotus]

you need to dig on the sec stage

dig dig dig

[desert cape]

I tried 5 times EDD but never made it to 3rd.. I'm thinking of doing it solo should be easier if I play digger. What's the 3rd? And what dread is spawnig in the 2nd?

[chrome lotus]

2 mule and 300 morkte

i just did it 10 min ago

[burnt sandal]

check the pinned message

[chrome lotus]

its about 1.5h 😄

[desert cape]

Oh, ok thanks didn't know about that..

[burnt sandal]

it's updated every week too

[hoary cove]

wtf no

[chrome lotus]

1:20

[hoary cove]

i did it in 50 minutes with a two man team and he was a new gunner

so at most an hour

[vapid ether]

Yeah uh shouldn't take longer

Unless everything goes wrong

[vocal saddle]

damn it's already been a week

[urban lynx]

is it me or is this dd hellish

like im beand new to this but

the black box is so brutal

[hardy nacelle]

this week's and last week's EDD have been a kick in the ol family jewels

[brisk pagoda]

no you use a pick for jewels not a kick

[radiant prawn]

Is if possible to do EDDs, in general, solo without overclocks? Or are they virtually necessary to see a good degree of success?

[burnt sandal]

it's entirely possible

OC are not needed for success

[radiant prawn]

Ah. I see

[lunar helm]

This week DD is harder than usual, the EDD is on the easier side imo

[balmy axle]

i did last week's EDD with no OCs solo

funni

first try

(somehow)

[lunar helm]

A tip for black box on Point extract and refinery :do it first before doing the other objectives

Cause the longer you wait the more frequently the bugs spawn

[manic pivot]

%!s(<nil>)%!s(<nil>)ATTENTION MINERS!%!s(<nil>)
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new %!s(<nil>)Deep Dives%!s(<nil>)!%!s(<nil>)%!(EXTRA string=
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, string=ERROR, string=ERROR, string=ERROR, string=ERROR, string=
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)

[errant chasm]

When is the new deep dive

[burnt sandal]

in 24 hours

[balmy axle]

i wanna punch the guy in R&D who programmed mission control

[surreal saffron]

It’s probably one of the unpaid interns

[maiden river]

Leaf lovers

[lunar helm]

They really need to fix it lol

[stray dock]

mission control got hacked by the rival company

[jolly hazel]

its lore

[meager wyvern]

It is err cube joke clearly (not)

[hollow hazel]

Hey guys so every Deep Dive resets at Thursdays?

[meager wyvern]

Yes like 21 hours and 17 mins

[hollow hazel]

I don't know if there's a pattern, I use for large groups or ore if I'm in Haz 3

[hollow hazel]

Okay so the last day of the week to do them is Wednesday?

[meager wyvern]

If you start it 1 min before reset u can do it if u don't fail but after it you need to restart game at least on ps5

[hollow hazel]

Oh holy fuck

Didn't know that, thank you!

Btw, just to confirm

The rewards are only given after the first clear, correct?

My question actually is if you can "farm" Deep Dives

I don't think so, but want to confirm

As far as I'm aware rewards are weekly as well

[jolly hazel]

yes

you cannot farm it

[hollow hazel]

Okay thank you so much brothers

What's the current Deep Dive btw?

[meager wyvern]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cvRHDfmBKK8Ggmoga6A3PrlyBaunZpbQhZuy987gGKk/edit#gid=672452639

you can see it there

[meager wyvern]

I use c4 for swarms and save axes for dreads. I use cryo and spammed 4x axes in row to dread with reload cancel and it did mad damage. Sometimes I throw C4 in the air with the axe to plant it in case enemies or dread comes in the area

If you throw it in the air and throw axe to it before it drops it stays in the air and you can just pick the axe up

[hollow hazel]

Thank you brother, how did you have access to it?

[meager wyvern]

It in the pinned messages

[hollow hazel]

Sounds efficient

They update it automatically or manually? Can you tell?