#deep-dive-discussion | Deep Rock Galactic | Page 171

fierce jacinth Nov 19, 2020, 1:56 PM

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anyone else havin issues with fallin through the map flooring on stage 1 of EDD?

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Also @earnest totem, mule legs show up white, which makes them difficult to spot. If you don’t know what you’re looking for, it’ll just look like terrain. I’d really like them to show up in a contrasting color

earnest totem Nov 19, 2020, 1:57 PM

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I wish they made noise as well. might be going too far but there have been plenty of times i've gotten stuck looking for them

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 2:07 PM

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if you cant find them sometimes they spawn in tunnels above or below the mule

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if its in radius

gleaming tinsel Nov 19, 2020, 2:08 PM

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I know the Devs check the DDs over before releasing them. Legs should be accounted for, their locations are another topic lol

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 2:31 PM

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my fucking god

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The mule pathfinding bug is really annoying

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We failed stage 2 EDD cause I was out fixing mule

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and a swarm with a ton of HVTs strike the rest of my team

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Hvt?

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 2:33 PM

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high value targets

gusty whale Nov 19, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Sorry to hear that

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 2:59 PM

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jesus. my team pulled 3 eggs at once on the last stage of the EDD, triggering both swarms and we still somehow survived. EDD is pretty easy despite the modifiers i feel

indigo jungle Nov 19, 2020, 3:00 PM

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tfw you have more kills as scout than the rest of the team in phase 1

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you know you're in for a loss

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(we lost)

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notnice

quiet mortar Nov 19, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Sorry for being late.

Deep_Dive DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Murky Foot
Stage 1: aquarq 7 Aquarqs + gegg 2 Eggs | rocknstone Low Gravity + tothebone Parasites
Stage 2: drill Protect The Drilldozer + molly 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators!
Stage 3: morkite 250 Morkite + slammer 1 Dreadnought | Low Oxygen

Deep_Dive ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Murderous Senit
Stage 1: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + slammer 1 Dreadnought | tothebone Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 2: drill Protect The Drilldozer + gegg ** 2 Eggs** | Lethal Enemies
Stage 3: gegg 6 Eggs + molly 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption

gusty whale Nov 19, 2020, 3:09 PM

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There's also Parasite's on DD Stage 1

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 3:10 PM

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my host disconnected second try

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and mule also bugged

gusty whale Nov 19, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Okay, that is... pain. Pure Pain.

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 3:10 PM

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but this time I fixed that with 2 C4

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so that's alright

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but still my host DC

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this week's EDD is cursed

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 3:11 PM

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yeah mule bugs on 1st refill stage 2

fossil orbit Nov 19, 2020, 3:14 PM

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what does low oxygen mean

trail ruin Nov 19, 2020, 3:14 PM

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@civic ledge See, here's the thing: I've restarted the game after reset and before going to DD

gusty whale Nov 19, 2020, 3:15 PM

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what does low oxygen mean
@fossil orbit You got a bar on the right side, if it runs out you start dying fast. Need to refuel it near Molly and Resupply's

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 3:15 PM

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oh, gotcha demetrion

fossil orbit Nov 19, 2020, 3:15 PM

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jesus that sounds stressful

gusty whale Nov 19, 2020, 3:15 PM

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It's... manageable.

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 3:15 PM

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It is, if you don't stay near molly

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or have resupplies

fossil orbit Nov 19, 2020, 3:16 PM

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im assuming a lot of scouts run off and die on their own from no air

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 3:16 PM

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oh yeah

gusty whale Nov 19, 2020, 3:20 PM

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It's a disease. But this is best taken into general chat.
This be for DD's after all

trail ruin Nov 19, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Worst possible DD stage: kill Dred + haunted cave. On second or third stage. I'll take low O2 over that madness every day of the week.

wintry geode Nov 19, 2020, 3:27 PM

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u remember that DD with liquid morkite and hauted cave?

turbid kestrel Nov 19, 2020, 3:28 PM

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nice

pure urchin Nov 19, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Is DD's 3 times a week or a day?

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 4:04 PM

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What?

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There's two new ones every week (Rotates on Thursday I think), and you can complete each for cores once, for a total of 3 cores per dive, per week.

pure urchin Nov 19, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Ahhh ok but you can still do them as many times as you want

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 4:08 PM

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yeah, for money

gusty whale Nov 19, 2020, 4:08 PM

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And exp

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 4:08 PM

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But you're better off doing normal missions on haz 4, since you can also get minerals

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unless, I guess, you don't want to mine minerals

gusty whale Nov 19, 2020, 4:09 PM

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No Minerals, except if you get (a) Huuli Hoarder(s) on the DD.

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:10 PM

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EDD and DD are pretty bad for xp/credits unless you can do them under 35 mins

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 4:11 PM

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35?

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Are you completing haz 4 missions in less than 12 minutes?

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:11 PM

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yep sometimes

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usually 15

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 4:11 PM

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I regularly spend 30-60 minutes on them

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:12 PM

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i dont dawdle, i mine the good stuff then leave.

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granted, i have tons of experience so I dont get lost

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 4:12 PM

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the antithesis of my playstyle

pure urchin Nov 19, 2020, 4:12 PM

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What do you define as the "good stuff"

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Im sort of a new player so

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:13 PM

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you can clean sweep an entire 200 morkite mission in less than 15 mins (like actually everything)

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good stuff is any big chunks and easy to reach stuff

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 4:13 PM

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my deep dives are cautious and I plan every step, also overturn every rock.

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:13 PM

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you dont mine the entire vein. if there is 1 cm chunks left just leave it. it is 0.0001 of a mineral

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Although I did rush stage 1 of the DD last week to avoid wasting a resupply

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Shh

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It's about the principle

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:14 PM

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using your power attack to mine gold faster helps a lot too

pure urchin Nov 19, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Yeah honestly I lose most of my DD's from dying not from resuppling xD

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:15 PM

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but yeah if you want maximum credits and xp/hr it is best to ignore gold. you can lose like 3-5 mins mining gold that gives you an extra 500 credits when a haz 4 can give upwards of 3k

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oh and run driller if possible. the dirt inbetween caves wastes a lot of time

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i just satchel charge big gold chunks instead of mining them, once again saving a bunch of time

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Did it the 3rd try

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Was still very very stressful dude to the amount of swarmers we had

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the main reason we did it this time

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was that I drill a special tunnel for mule to walk straight pass the bugged area

bitter comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:40 PM

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I just attempted the EDD with randoms. It's BRUTAL

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Everything was pretty fine after that

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Although not in magma core, this week's EDD is surprisingly hard due to the mule bug and swarmers

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For real, stage 1 and 3 are easy

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second stage is like hell

bitter comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:41 PM

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The first stage with the refiery isnt so bad but we got nearly teamwiped 3 times on stage 2, and it's a miracle we pulled off those saves, but we got destroyed once we got to the heartstone

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not even started the boss fight

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just got swarmed, I got leeched and it wen all downhill from there

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:42 PM

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yea the leeches are in a right spot to wipe your team

bitter comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:42 PM

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first stage is supposedly a cave leech cluster but I swear I saw more leeches on the second, it's crazy

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:42 PM

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if you get behind on wave clear on the hearthstone it gets really tough

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:43 PM

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and I noticed in my 3rd try

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I probably had 2 of my swarm stacked together

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in my 1st and 2nd try

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:43 PM

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i was lucky that one of my greenbeards triggered the cave leech in the final room before anything bad could happen

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:44 PM

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better wait for 1 swarm to come out first before starting dore

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:44 PM

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you get a swarm regardless when you start so not really

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:44 PM

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yea, greenbeard is kinda effective as leech baits

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Dunno, but the size of the swarm after the first stop was significantly smaller in the 3rd try

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Or maybe it's because no one need to worry about mule and can focus

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:45 PM

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its really random what combination of bugs you get

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so perhaps you got less tanky stuff

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:45 PM

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true

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I think I had like... 3 to 4 wardens in the first and second try

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and the infector was attacked us from the back at the same time

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3rd try I rushed to kill it first

bitter comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:46 PM

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We had what seemed like endles waves of wardens, opressors, and SO MANY SLASHERS

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ugh, the slashers

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kept sneaking up behind me

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lethal slashers are no joke

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:47 PM

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slashers and swarmers are the biggest killers in this week's EDD

vale falcon Nov 19, 2020, 4:47 PM

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slashers are Op plz buff

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:47 PM

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i good thing i found if you can try to kill enemies coming up behind your team mates. if everyone does it everyone is covered

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:47 PM

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and I think I was getting the greenest team for this month(in all 3 try, get it done 3rd try)

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Still doable if the bug didn't happen

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it was like a curse

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:47 PM

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if you only focus on yourself you lose a lot of DPS by spinning around

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:48 PM

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I was a driller, I main job there is really to protect my team from swarmers and slashers

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All my C4 and neurotoxin are saved for them

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:49 PM

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i like axes more. really nice for stopping special attacks

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damage is a bonus too

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it also counts as "melee" so it heals you with vampire perk

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:49 PM

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axes for crspr, neurotoxin for cryo

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I was going for cryo to kinda carry

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:50 PM

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cryo is objectively better than crspr now because they kill swarmers

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which is sad. i loved my flamer

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:50 PM

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and neurotoxin further boost your ability to control swarms and kill swarmers

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For real, swarm control is a superior factor you want to take account if you wanna hard carry

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This week's EDD kinda proved that

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I saved my team from wiping from swarmers twice

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:51 PM

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eh, i still think neuro is worse because it blinds your team and any fire damage will explode it (and lots of people run fire oc/mods)

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:51 PM

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after heartstone and in the second stop

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:51 PM

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it also takes a while to ooze out the gas

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:52 PM

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I actually only use that when there's a obviously excessed amount of swarmers

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Or throw to an area with a lot of bugs where my gunner is too busy to deal with

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situation 1 even you see it there not much you can do about that

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:53 PM

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properly set up engi turrets get most of them in my experience

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:53 PM

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situation 2 you don't even have spare effort to take care of

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wait

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speaking of that

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true

bitter comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I was playing gunner with fire minigun build and the neurotoxin-magic bulets-explosive combo on my revolver

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I didn't see my engi putting down turrets in my stage 2

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in all 3 try

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:54 PM

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lol

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:54 PM

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that's why it's that stressful

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:54 PM

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probably forgot

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cause you cant use them when doretta is moving

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Then that's a miracle I actually finished that

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my god

bitter comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:54 PM

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I just spam fire the revolver into swarms... well grut swarms anyway

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:54 PM

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yeah if you ever need to carry just never play scout

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they dont have the tools necessary

bitter comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Oddly out scout was kinda carrying us

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they saved our team as last dwarf standing more than once

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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scout of course isn't the hard carry role

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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shouldnt have gotten to that point imo

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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But their one job in EDD is to flare and mine nitra

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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A scout can clutch and nitra hoard

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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no nitra=wipe

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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And flare

bitter comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Yeah it kind of became a shit show

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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scout is entirely defined by his grenades LOL

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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That is actually extremely important

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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he brings nothing else of value imo

bitter comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I'll probably switch my build or class

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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a good scout kinda only need to be fast on mining nitra

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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@bitter comet try fire minigun + volatile bullets bulldog oc

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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and remember to flare and clear leeches in every room

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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set on fire, and you kill stuff super quickly

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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and then take down HVTs if there's room

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that's pretty much it

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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you can 8 shot detonators lol

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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nothing else scout can really do effectively

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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imo scout > gunner in almost every situation especially in the deep dives

bitter comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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VC would have helped, one of the leeches killed two of us, AFTER I warned in chat

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lol

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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scout> gunner? uhhh

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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not really

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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lets just say that 4 gunner EDD is possible and 4 scout EDD isnt

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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2 scout is 100% worse than 2 gunner

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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:)

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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I mean in a team setup

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:58 PM

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kinda proved gunner is better if you kinda forced comparison

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both are needed imo

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:58 PM

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a team with no scout is better than a team with no gunner lol

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 4:58 PM

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If you already have an Engie and a Driller the way I see it 1 scout is worth more than 1 gunner

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:58 PM

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of course yes in this situation than

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cause you can straightly kick starting the synergy here

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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i would still take gunner over scout in any situation that isnt haz 3 or below

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Actually

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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really? I just really don't enjoy gunner or see his usage past sitting on ziplines

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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If you have a heatpipe TCF driller

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getting 2 gunner is probably better

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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you never sit on zips as gunner

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that is a bad strategy

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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exactly

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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you setup multikills by positioning yourself for blowthrough rounds

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Gunner obliterates hordes

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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m1k tho 😳

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Consistently

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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m1k doesnt have enough magsize and its fire rate is super slow

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gunner has bulldog for sniping

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does the same damage actually iirc

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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For real tho, 2 carpet bomber offer an excess amount of swarm clearing

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with this you probably can get through any situation you can imagine

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But you lose a lot of mining power with this team set up

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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i actually hate carpet bomber lol. it is pitiful against guards/praes

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i just hate flak in general. minigun stun is so nice

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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But a TCF driller can compensate this

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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yeah driller can do anything a scout can

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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still, a balanced team with all 4 class is probably the go to

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:02 PM

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driller best class Dirt_Diggers

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 5:02 PM

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If you have 2 gunners one can run minigun, and the other carpet bomber

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 5:02 PM

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scout best dpeek

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:02 PM

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dstare

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heresy

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:02 PM

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trust me, in EDD situations, 2 carpet bomber will be safer

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:02 PM

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minigun stun is undervalued i guess. its super good

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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i dont care if you can kill things, is ur grapple hook PORTABLE

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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yes

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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as mentioned, superiority of swarm control in higher hazard level

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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driller's grapple gun goes through walls :)

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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well

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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it's only my very subjective opinion tho

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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scout can fly

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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driller can fly for a few seconds

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what comes after that, well

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Cant fly forever nice

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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neither can scout nice

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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scout has jarate therefore scout > everythign

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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PISS

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he got us

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pack it up lads

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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I think the biggest value scout offer is nitra mining

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no nitra = wipe in higher haz

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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as you said before TCF = scout

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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no pee = no win

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Yes, indeed, it's replaceable with TCF

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:05 PM

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its a meme that scout is bad. they nerfed his primaries every update for a while

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:05 PM

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But scout still have higher efficiency mining nitra

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:05 PM

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also new/selfish players pick scout way more and contribute nothing to the team

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Due to the nature of hook, it doesn't have reserve

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But you kinda need to have an engi with brain first...

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Ive seen many scouts really undervalue the flare

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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I love scout but i gotta agree the nerfs to his weapons h u r t

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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scouts ability to mine walls is conditional, TCF is just blast n go

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gottem

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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yea, second biggest job of scout

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flaring

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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flares are so pog

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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or just use it so sparingly

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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lighting the area up during swarm is actually more valuable than most of the ppl think

tall raptor Nov 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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imagine not using it as a second secondary

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:07 PM

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imagine not using the flare gun to kill web spitters

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dstare

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:07 PM

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sderp

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:07 PM

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imagine not killing web spitters

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that's what most of the scout I met do

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lmao

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Id definitely put scout on a spitter shooting duty

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:07 PM

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properly built m1k 1 shots webspitters with a single bullet

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Don't really HAVE to do this

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GK2 can also do the job pretty effectively

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:08 PM

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i use blowthrough rounds on it personally, because then you can just focus shot grunts in the body and kill 3 of them

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:08 PM

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A scout just need to remember that taking down HVTs is their job...

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:09 PM

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This

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:09 PM

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scout's job is to be the team cheerleader

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:09 PM

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I kinda hate how I need to freeze HVTs and EPC them to death all the time

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Driller actually can do it all

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HVTs killing

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swarm control

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nitra mining

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:09 PM

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gotta cheer for the team while they do the important stuff and kill stuff far away instead lol

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:09 PM

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superior hard carry class imo

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:10 PM

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driller best class drillchamp

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can do the job of every class at the same time

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giga chad driller

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:10 PM

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most of the time Im really trying to be objective

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but this

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I agree

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:11 PM

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if only his single target wasnt so doodoo

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Driller best hard carry class, probably means it's the strongest in holistic level

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:11 PM

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then he would be the only class worth picking

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:12 PM

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his single is ok

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But there's other that can do better

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Driller is a good overall do everything

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From what ive seen ingame

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:12 PM

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if you take berzerker you can actually kill everything yourself

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oppressors are a joke when meleed

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:12 PM

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That's what I do

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Arent they vulnerable to melee?

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:13 PM

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driller still worthless against dreads though :/

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:13 PM

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the engi acutlly said "OP" when I berzerker 2 oppressor in front of heartstone

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:13 PM

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yes Nivano

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also drills and throwing axes are "melee"

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Well makes sense

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:13 PM

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so they give vampire regen

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:13 PM

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With sticky slow

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driller can still perform well as a stong control in dread elimination

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further paring with neurotoxin

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:14 PM

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yes but not the one man army in any other scenario. sad 😢

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:14 PM

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dread literally cannot move

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true

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but it's strong enough already

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:15 PM

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also driller sucks on rock phase in escort missions

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Cause any big target in this game are mostly ammo sink only

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you will have no problem killing them with enough nitra

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:15 PM

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which, again, sad

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:15 PM

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that's my subjective opinion

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not really suck

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:15 PM

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praes are just ammo sinks. they are harmless

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:15 PM

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just not as effective

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:15 PM

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swarmers are the most dangerous mob.

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acid spitters second most dangerous

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Bulks?

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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easy

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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nah imo, web spitter are more dangerous

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easy

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pure ammo sink

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Eh yeah

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Imagine

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Its prolly the greenbeards actually

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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If you have drill fuel

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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web spitters are super purple you can see them in the dark easily

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acid spitters blend in

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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you can drill a straight emergency tunnel to kite bulk

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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The acid spitters are def a pain

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:17 PM

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and there isn't a chance for you to die if you have enough main weapon ammo

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:17 PM

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menace is free

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any mactera is also free.

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:17 PM

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acid is just damaging but web spitter ruin your vision

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:17 PM

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you can stun them before they charge up

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:17 PM

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which is more deadly in higher haz

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also slowing you btw

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:17 PM

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acid spitter can easily 3 shot you but sure

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Threats are really team dependent

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:18 PM

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menace is really just easy freeze and kill within 15m

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Well greenbeards find everything scary,

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:18 PM

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swarmers scariest mob swarmer notnice

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:18 PM

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^

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:19 PM

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when you reach nirvana you will also realize this

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the truth of all truths

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swarmer bad

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:19 PM

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10 swarmers are 100% more deadly than 1 bulk imo

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:20 PM

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yes

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the only time a bulk is scary is when it spawns on top of you

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it can be easily kited/managed otherwise

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but swarmers. they are everywhere dstare

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:20 PM

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swarmers in general and 4 men game size mactera crowd

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deadliest enemies in the game

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:21 PM

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mactera swarms are free xp

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you kill them instantly or you die though

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:21 PM

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That's why I run snowball

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:21 PM

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very binary enemies

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:21 PM

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imagine second stage of this EDD have mactera plague

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That will be the hardest challenge you can have in this game

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with mule bugged btw

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lmao

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Yeah ive experienced high haz swarmers

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Pain in the ass

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:22 PM

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thorns is actually super worthless in high haz lol

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Constantly chipping away if you miss one

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:22 PM

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swarmers spawn in, well, swarms at high haz

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:23 PM

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thorns is mainly for saving ammo against swarmers

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that's how I treat it

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:23 PM

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if they are on you 1 at a time pick is fine. thorns just a waste of a slot

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if more than that thorns wont save you anyways

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Competent players will get more value out of other perks

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:24 PM

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^^^^

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thorns is fine for haz 4 and below

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:24 PM

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I never even take thorns

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:24 PM

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true, I switched it out long ago

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:25 PM

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i only run it on minigun gunner so i dont have to stop shooting

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Actually it's just better to find another way to deal with swarmers

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That only 1-2 swarmers situation where throns mainly work

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You just don't really need it

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:25 PM

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well because of the cooldown its super bad mainly

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:25 PM

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true, if there's no cooldown

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:25 PM

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it was 100% take with no cd

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:26 PM

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everyone will be picking it

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:26 PM

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used to have no cd, and it got nerfed quickly

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:26 PM

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I think they need to turn it back to no cd, for real

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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nope

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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cause you still took dmg from swarmers

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Thorn has a cooldown?

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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yes

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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A large enough amount can still wipe you

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I didn't even realise, thats just even worse

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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But not your entire team if you have buffed thorns imo

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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https://deeprockgalactic.gamepedia.com/Thorns @warm notch

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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??? like, to damage the same enemy, or to damage any enemy

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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0.75s

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any enemy

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think of it like a retaliation attack

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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BY the beard

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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gotta windup another swing

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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rocknstone

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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its a poor perk

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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maybe 0.5s will be better imo

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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damn

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I dunno, it's just useless in higher haz

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thorns itself isn't really useless

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I ran it thinking it would hit everything that attacked

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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But the fact that it takes 1 passive slot

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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sweet tooth is actually the best team-orientated passive

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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already provided you a reason to switch it out for something better

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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because it conserves red sugar for everyone else

vagrant hawk Nov 19, 2020, 5:29 PM

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second stage edd is insane

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:29 PM

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it's cursed

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did your mule bug?

warm notch Nov 19, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Dozer lethal?

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Didnt that happen like 2 weeks ago?

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:29 PM

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as far as i can tell the dozer doesnt really take increased damage from lethal mod

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i noticed no difference from normal and lethal mod

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Dozer lethal was last week normal

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:30 PM

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what lethal mod

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is that a thing

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:30 PM

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lethal enemies mod

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:30 PM

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oh

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yea, that will make dore die faster

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:30 PM

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no mod vs lethal mod = no difference

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as far as i can tell

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anecdotally

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 5:30 PM

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I thought lethal just made enemies do more melee damage to players

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I mean, in reality you still do the exact same with or without it

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dore probably die faster, true, but that should not happen in the first place

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I don't think it affected steeve v.s. other bugs, so I don't see why it would affect the drill

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:32 PM

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as far as i can tell with a single glyphid wailing on doretta there is no difference in damage taken

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it felt the same to me

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Dore kinda only die to bugs when players failed to protect it

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^

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:33 PM

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and honestly it feels intentional it is this way. otherwise doretta would be one shot by 1 mistake

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:33 PM

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and in this scenario dore break no matter how fast

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:33 PM

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if lethal actually applied

plush ravine Nov 19, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Maybe I will find a chance to test it, if there's one

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gtg, good luck with yall's EDD if you didn't finish it yet

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rocknstone

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:34 PM

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ive done dozens of lethal enemies doretta and no lethal doretta

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it feels exactly the same to me

opaque plinth Nov 19, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Well after buying the game last week I just ran the EDD for the first time. Stage 2 we lucked out because we finished the hearthstone when we were getting overrun and stage 3 we had a few close calls but got it done first try. Pretty cool experience though!

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 5:42 PM

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rocknstone

pine ore Nov 19, 2020, 6:13 PM

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I’ve just recently promoted so I wanted to ask, do the deep dives change daily or weekly?

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 6:17 PM

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weekly every thursday morning

vagrant hawk Nov 19, 2020, 6:36 PM

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the mule glitch just ruined my groups run twice

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sitting by the drop pod and the mule is 150m away and wont come back, time runs out

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in second stage

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sadge

hot rain Nov 19, 2020, 6:37 PM

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When time runs out the doors will open at the end regardless

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I think its the last 10 seconds or so not sure exactly

vagrant hawk Nov 19, 2020, 6:42 PM

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thats what we thought too, still didnt open

vague elbow Nov 19, 2020, 7:00 PM

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30 seconds, MC even mentions that the mule is secured when it's clearly not

prisma moss Nov 19, 2020, 7:10 PM

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funz... mule stuck in s2 of edd... carry the stupid egg for 2 minutes... then the second one even longer.... nor mentioning the stone ;X

drowsy spruce Nov 19, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Doesn't the mule appear at pod if time runs out?

prisma moss Nov 19, 2020, 7:12 PM

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extraction yes, but carrying the 2xegg+stone+every chunk of nitra to the mule stuck in first refueling space, through super long map is 'fun'

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mule got stuck almost on the start of the map

hazy comet Nov 19, 2020, 7:16 PM

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you can dig the mule out

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easiest way is to toss a satchel on it

prisma moss Nov 19, 2020, 7:17 PM

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it could go back

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not forward

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i could call it in the direction of the start and it walked

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i just ceased to walk anywhere in the direction of the dozer

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like there was a limit to it

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when it gets "normally bugged" it goes back and again, there it just went to a spot and froze with legs up

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you could call it in the direction of the start and it went, but after certain spot in the direction of the mission objectives it was just stuck

vague elbow Nov 19, 2020, 8:09 PM

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I've had that before too. Not sure how I fixed it... I think it involved going around the spot somehow. Pretty sure a dread/oppressor/praet died in the spot and didn't despawn properly

quartz badge Nov 19, 2020, 8:44 PM

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driller still worthless against dreads though :/
@hazy comet It's still far from making you mvp but with the Ice Storm OC + AABAB (upgrades) you can do a good job. Credits to Syncourt

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 8:48 PM

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dreads, like dreadnauts?

kind bough Nov 19, 2020, 9:04 PM

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driller worthless against dreads? nonsense

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throw all your C4

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technically, you have contributed

odd comet Nov 19, 2020, 9:04 PM

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C4 is good for cracking the shell

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Not so much for actually hurting its health bar

kind bough Nov 19, 2020, 9:04 PM

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and if your teammates hate you ~~as they should~~ just claim that the shell doesn't have explosion resis--damn it someone beat me to it

civic ledge Nov 19, 2020, 9:05 PM

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sticky flames works really well

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It absolutely shreds dreads, especially if you can get them to stick in one spot

kind bough Nov 19, 2020, 9:06 PM

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in a more practical elimination recommendation that won't make me hate you ~~like C4 will~~, impact axes

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they're kind of underwhelming due to zero CC potential but if you got something with a lot of health and a chunky weakpoint, those things slap

placid flume Nov 19, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Just failed elite deep dive because of bugged mule and drilldozer status. Mule was like 180 meters away and i also couldn't see damage of drilldozer. Lethal enemies didn't help too 😦

vapid monolith Nov 19, 2020, 10:03 PM

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What a fucking cancerous edd

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Two of the longest missions types and shield disruption on third

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And the stuck mule on 2 and Karl help you if a menace spawns

odd comet Nov 19, 2020, 10:12 PM

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bruh

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axes are the best grenade item in the game

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Good single-target damage that ignores armor, a small AoE, can be recovered if you miss, can be stockpiled if you have extra when you get a resupply, and you get 8 of them, more than any other grenade

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And their relative lack of crowd control doesn't matter, as driller already has loads of crowd control

solar cobalt Nov 19, 2020, 10:17 PM

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This EDD was one of the hardest I've seen since 1.0.
On the second stage, after the first refill, there's a room with a breeder and a spitballer. If the swarm is in the process when you enter it, well...
First two tries were with legend, diamond, and gold. Both ended on the second stage. One at the last part of the hearthstone, one in this hard room.

Managed to finish it with gold+ guys only after I explained the situation, and we cleared the upcoming room before starting the refilled Doretta.

uncut jewel Nov 19, 2020, 10:41 PM

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ohh, clearing the room before refill, yeah we should have done that

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wiped once in that room

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got it on 2nd try

paper meteor Nov 19, 2020, 10:50 PM

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second stage edd is hell on earth and then you get a shield disruption for the finish

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holy shit man

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that was tough

feral oasis Nov 19, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Time for me to give it a try

paper meteor Nov 19, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I never expected escort to be the hardest mission type but nothing else comes close to that shit. It´s funny, on Haz 4 you almost can´t lose it and then you up the diff and it gets nasty

glossy wind Nov 19, 2020, 11:03 PM

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The escort mission is brutal, but the shield distruption is even worse imho

paper meteor Nov 19, 2020, 11:05 PM

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ok thinking about it the lethal enemies might be partly to blame for the escort diff

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the swarmer dmg oh my

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and yeah it´s like deciding between hell and hades with this edd

dense obsidian Nov 19, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Shield disruption was tense but manageable for us, escort was 30 minutes of abject horror.

spiral cypress Nov 19, 2020, 11:39 PM

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stage 2 is hell

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Well after a nice relaxing DD it’s time to put my try hard pants on for the EDD

gloomy herald Nov 20, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Anyone else feel like escort is being represented much more than other mission types in recent dd/edds?

ionic dagger Nov 20, 2020, 12:59 AM

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4 wipes now on second stage EDD. Damn it's rough this week.

lofty pendant Nov 20, 2020, 1:06 AM

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I did my first deep dive yesterday and it was hard as hell

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Not looking forward to edd

formal surge Nov 20, 2020, 1:38 AM

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did anyone have a mini mule spawn in its own disconnected room on the normal deep dive?

broken skiff Nov 20, 2020, 2:14 AM

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i felt like the normal DD second stage was rough, just constant detonators blowing up the dilldozer

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Bulk detonators mixing up the escort run

kind bough Nov 20, 2020, 3:00 AM

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didn't have enough time to get to the EDD today but, somewhat in line with expectations, DD with double carpet bomber is omegalul

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don't usually get to coast around 800 nitra lol

teal cosmos Nov 20, 2020, 3:03 AM

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DD stage 2: are both mini-mules in at the Ommoran room? can't seem to find one

viral tulip Nov 20, 2020, 3:04 AM

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I think I heard someone mention one being buried in the wall

teal cosmos Nov 20, 2020, 3:05 AM

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thanks, think I found it

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somehow doretta doesn't drill through the room

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it goes underneath

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I'll post a pic in #drg-gallery too

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 6:00 AM

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And that’s a wrap for this weeks deep dives

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That 2nd stage on the EDD is no joke that is for sure

feral atlas Nov 20, 2020, 6:20 AM

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EDD honestly wasn't too bad.

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 6:22 AM

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It never really is, just gotta be careful on that 2nd stage

feral atlas Nov 20, 2020, 6:23 AM

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as long as you respect the swarmers properly, it's easy enough to 0 down that stage

fierce wyvern Nov 20, 2020, 6:25 AM

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its not just swarmers you are dealing with though

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you have shockers as well

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 6:25 AM

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It is also easier said than done for some players, just gotta put trust in your team and your own skills

fierce wyvern Nov 20, 2020, 6:26 AM

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i haven't been able to be lethal on haz 5 for normal maps so i don't have high hopes for stage 2 lol

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 6:26 AM

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If you get that win kudos to you

feral atlas Nov 20, 2020, 6:27 AM

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1643213546064732353/60ABAEC726765922AF180DFA264B0DB3B3031C4C/

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your most reliable combo for stage two would be cryo driller + splinter/CB autocannon

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to be honest, you'll need to be relying on your gunner a lot

fierce wyvern Nov 20, 2020, 6:28 AM

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... i am the gunner

feral atlas Nov 20, 2020, 6:28 AM

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not necessarily to clutch, but his loadout and knowing when to shield are the important factors

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if you can't handle it, don't be the only gunner then

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the only real threat is the swarmer count

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on lethal modifier, swarmers are the priority; they're too fast and they nom you quickly

fierce wyvern Nov 20, 2020, 6:30 AM

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i find i have more issues with shockers

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not so much swarmers

feral atlas Nov 20, 2020, 6:30 AM

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anything that can evaporates swarmers also evaporates shockers

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shockers are just swarmers that fly

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 6:30 AM

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The shocky bois are also my biggest problem

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Mainly for the slowdown effect they cause which lets others get close

fierce wyvern Nov 20, 2020, 6:32 AM

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im gonna be running two gunners wish me luck

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 6:32 AM

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Get that W

fierce wyvern Nov 20, 2020, 8:28 AM

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holy hell

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two hours but i did it

wraith shard Nov 20, 2020, 8:34 AM

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Does anyone think escort is way too stacked against the solo player?

jade sorrel Nov 20, 2020, 9:04 AM

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yeah, swarmers are driller fuel

wraith shard Nov 20, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Yeah this is almost impossible solo

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Bosco is just too weak

quartz badge Nov 20, 2020, 11:23 AM

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I don't get why stage 2 is described that hard. In my case, it felt relatively easy with a random (but experienced) team. There were much harder EDD stages in the past imo

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Tip: Cryo Driller with 5m radius freeze upgrade + Team focus on frozen stuff ftw (which applies in general imo)

marble veldt Nov 20, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Anyone encountered a bug in second stage DD where Doretta takes constant damage even though there's nothing attacking her?

proud fulcrum Nov 20, 2020, 3:49 PM

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this EDD sucks

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and yes

kind bough Nov 20, 2020, 3:54 PM

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I didn't have any problems but I would believe it

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Drilldozer is always funky

plush ravine Nov 20, 2020, 3:59 PM

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third stage DD my dead spawned inside wall

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I almost shited my pants when dread wasn't there when I pop the egg

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This week's DD and EDD really have bugs

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a lot of them

kind bough Nov 20, 2020, 4:00 PM

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but they always have bugs

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drillchamp

proud fulcrum Nov 20, 2020, 4:50 PM

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i wont bother with the EDD this week

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it's just not fun

kind bough Nov 20, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I have to push forward

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I have like every minigun OC now except lead storm

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These insults will not stand

eager parcel Nov 20, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Same story with me and carpet bomber

kind bough Nov 20, 2020, 5:32 PM

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my condolences

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I just got it last week and now I don't have a reason to play minigun

proven wigeon Nov 20, 2020, 6:01 PM

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So uh, my EDD, 2nd stage. The dozer went all the way to the end, completely 180'd and then drilled all the way back to the start without ever stopping from 0 fuel, here's a link to a ss https://i.imgur.com/79jWupy.jpeg

Imgur

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that's a 400m tunnel lol

low warren Nov 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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So what exactly is a deep dive? like a really long mission?

vale falcon Nov 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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its 3 missions in a row with unique scaling difficulty and increased chance of mutators

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ammo, health and nitra is kept between the 3 stages

low warren Nov 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Oh okay

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Thanks

vale falcon Nov 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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first stage rewards minerals, second is a weapon overclock and the third is cosmetics

echo edge Nov 20, 2020, 6:56 PM

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First stage is a blank core

vale falcon Nov 20, 2020, 6:56 PM

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oop, my brain just went back 1 year

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yeah its blank cores

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minerals was before machine events

blissful maple Nov 20, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Elite Deep Dive was a bitch and a half. We barely made it

turbid kestrel Nov 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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lmao

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 7:17 PM

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As long as you make it

kind bough Nov 20, 2020, 7:26 PM

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as long as you make it through mission 2, even

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who cares about cosmetics

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gimme them [severely gameplay-altering weekly lockout poopoos]

keen pond Nov 20, 2020, 8:44 PM

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so is it possible to beat mission2?

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im in a lobby, doretta decided to drill back to the spawn

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in a straight line

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without fuel 😄

vale falcon Nov 20, 2020, 8:45 PM

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The fuel is just an excuse from drg to make us work faster

keen pond Nov 20, 2020, 8:45 PM

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and it is on the droppod spawn

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drilling in the air

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and not moving

marsh bane Nov 20, 2020, 8:50 PM

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any solution for the dozer going back and staying there? We are in the game rn and we want to fnish this

keen pond Nov 20, 2020, 8:51 PM

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u are with me :DDDDD

feral atlas Nov 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

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best to probably just retry

keen pond Nov 20, 2020, 8:56 PM

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i just skip this week

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thn

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2293293125

Steam Community :: Screenshot

Steam Community: Deep Rock Galactic.

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2293293069

Steam Community :: Screenshot

Steam Community: Deep Rock Galactic.

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2293293022

Steam Community :: Screenshot

Steam Community: Deep Rock Galactic.

marsh bane Nov 20, 2020, 9:09 PM

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I also got many screenshots of this. Was fun ride tbh, we overcame soo many things but this damn buggy doretta. Escort mission is buggy as hell since the day they pushed it. At least they shouldnt put this on EDD. It's frustrating. We spent 2 hours to clean all the rooms and got the eggs beforehand. And this happens... Sad. LEAVE NO DWARF BEHIND!

feral atlas Nov 20, 2020, 9:12 PM

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this honestly sounds like an issue with drilling to the rooms beforehand

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we didn't, and the drill never bugged

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every instance where I've heard this happen has been related to pre-drilling to the rooms

keen pond Nov 20, 2020, 9:17 PM

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i dunno i felt like the whole mission was a huge bug, i couldn't start doretta with the button, doretta damage ui was bugged, i picked up red sugar with iron will but still died, went back 2 caves to find enough fuel, and thn doretta decided to drill back to the spawn

echo edge Nov 20, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I had the bug happen on my first solo run and I didn t pre drill so I don t think it does

kind bough Nov 20, 2020, 10:19 PM

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damn, got mulched on EDD stage 2 right at the end

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2 menaces at once

little inlet Nov 20, 2020, 10:43 PM

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yeah this week took me an hour and a half on the EDD

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i was running splintering shells and six shooter but i still got owned on stage two lol

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 10:50 PM

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I completed this weeks EDD with Neurotoxin Payload and Elephant Rounds since I dont have most of the Overclocks yet

fringe kettle Nov 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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feral atlas every instance where I've heard this happen has been related to pre-drilling to ...

I've seen a couple where they didn't pre drill the rooms and it still messed up. I don't know what the definitive cause is.

sage bridge Nov 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Anyone have issues with molly on stage 2?

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refused to leave the first room for me

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 10:56 PM

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I had an issue with molly on stage 2, got stuck on the driller's path. It seemed to work again after tethering the heartstone to it

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I just had to carry everything back to the mule since it wouldnt move anywhere

sage bridge Nov 20, 2020, 10:57 PM

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interesting, wonder why the drilldozer is causing issues? We ending up failing the deep dive halfway through drilling out the heartstone so didn't get to see if it fixed itself. This might be the hardest deepdive they've ever made

little inlet Nov 20, 2020, 10:58 PM

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@sage bridge i had the same problem actually, she got stuck inside the drilldozer and didnt want to leave the room after

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 10:58 PM

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If molly messes up I dont think its the end of the world, people say the drop pod opens up at the last 10 seconds of extracting if molly doesnt enter the drop podbut I've never gotten that close to finding out

little inlet Nov 20, 2020, 10:59 PM

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yes but then you need to carry the heartstone and the eggs all the way back

sage bridge Nov 20, 2020, 10:59 PM

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yeh it does open up, but exactly as @little inlet said, meant carrying both eggs and the heartstone all the way vack

little inlet Nov 20, 2020, 10:59 PM

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yeehaw brother

sage bridge Nov 20, 2020, 10:59 PM

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whilst doing a stage 2 EDD with lethal enemies

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Its an inconvenience for sure but id rather tough through that than restarting and failing

little inlet Nov 20, 2020, 11:00 PM

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fortunately bugs wont spawn on dorreta unless your close to her

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youre*

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Doretta this time doesnt drill into eggs so its easier to finish with the eggs on the 2nd stage of the EDD

sage bridge Nov 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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i didnt know that, does that mean you can just leave her alone whilst it drills and only go over when it runs out of fuel

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and thus not risk getting the sides destroyed?

little inlet Nov 20, 2020, 11:02 PM

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i think so, i was an idiot and i didnt realize that molly was still in the first cave so i had to backtrack and dig her out

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when i got back the ommoran dotty was fine though

hollow iris Nov 20, 2020, 11:32 PM

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God I miss when thorns was useful

feral oasis Nov 20, 2020, 11:35 PM

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It’s always useful easy to catch the lil bbs that you miss when fighting those space ants

hollow iris Nov 20, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Meh, not worth a slot for such a long CD, and the fact you ya know, have to be hit each time

craggy verge Nov 20, 2020, 11:40 PM

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I just completed my first Deep Dive.

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I noticed what looked like a glitch where the Drilldozer was taking constant damage.

vast valve Nov 20, 2020, 11:55 PM

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full freeze cryo cannon drillers are the real mvp of elite deep dives

fringe kettle Nov 21, 2020, 12:05 AM

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For those of y'all that experienced doretta pathing back to the starting room, did you drill or dig ahead of her to the next room on the way to the heartstone?

echo edge Nov 21, 2020, 12:47 AM

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I didn t and it still happened

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I did notice she took a slightly different path on the next run like 10meters more to the right than the first time but idk what can make her change path

slender cargo Nov 21, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Molly getting stuck on stage 2 first refuel

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EDD

fringe kettle Nov 21, 2020, 1:53 AM

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did you drill ahead?

jovial turret Nov 21, 2020, 3:03 AM

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@slender cargo Were you with a guy called Happymartin?

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I just got off because of that too

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and yes Loan my team and I drilled ahead for the eggs

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did that break it?

fringe kettle Nov 21, 2020, 3:05 AM

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drilling ahead doesn't guarantee you'll break dorettas pathfinding, but you increase the odds that you will

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For now I'd recommend not drilling ahead

jovial turret Nov 21, 2020, 3:07 AM

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but it's elite deep dive with eggs

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that's a bitch to do with escort AND protect dotty with dealing with nitra

vale falcon Nov 21, 2020, 3:09 AM

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get the eggs after

jovial turret Nov 21, 2020, 3:09 AM

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what if dotty runs em over?

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like she dig's em out while we're moving and dealing with a haz 5 swarm, that's more bugs

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AND dealing with ammo and nitra supply, getting minerals while moving and not dying

keen pond Nov 21, 2020, 3:23 AM

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It won't drill tru them this time, but not the drilling ahead causes the bug so gl

slender cargo Nov 21, 2020, 3:24 AM

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jovial turret <@!136623474230820864> Were you with a guy called Happymartin?

No, was in a private game with friends

jovial turret Nov 21, 2020, 3:27 AM

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keen pond It won't drill tru them this time, but not the drilling ahead causes the bug so ...

Does it?

placid saffron Nov 21, 2020, 3:54 AM

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The EDD this week is a little rough on the escort mission

jovial turret Nov 21, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Yeah if stage 2 is really fucked then I'm not gonna bother. I got my three blanks, that's good enough. Just gotta solo to find 'em.

bright dagger Nov 21, 2020, 4:47 AM

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what are the modifiers on the EDD this week?

vale falcon Nov 21, 2020, 4:48 AM

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check the pinned messages here to see

hoary pecan Nov 21, 2020, 5:04 AM

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There is also a message in #deep-dive-speedrunning just have to scroll up a tiny bit

feral atlas Nov 21, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Did the EDD again, this time with engi

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we did drill ahead, didn't cause the bug, but molly seems to reliably glitch at least once on stage 2

limpid totem Nov 21, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Wait this week EDD can be glitched out and impossible to pass?

odd comet Nov 21, 2020, 6:25 AM

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If you try to dig through the mission first on the escort stage, Doretta can bug out, drive back to the start, and then refuse to move

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It happened to us

feral atlas Nov 21, 2020, 6:28 AM

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I think this is happening more often because it's an egg secondary

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and, quite frankly, because most players aren't good enough to handle breaking into new areas and dealing with the swarm with the lethal modifier

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so they're trying to pre-clear the map

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i'm going to guess that doing so is breaking some sort of nav point that the drill is using

weak pivot Nov 21, 2020, 8:17 AM

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our molly glitched in stage 2, Doretta glitched too - only 1 of 4 dwarves could see Doretta's full hp

silk plover Nov 21, 2020, 8:18 AM

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Got a problem with the UI and cannot see the actual health of Doretta.

proud fulcrum Nov 21, 2020, 9:28 AM

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deep dives aren't supposed to be random right
just asking cus i've tried the EDD 4 times this week and had BET-c spawn 0 times on the first stage but now she's here all of a sudden

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just lost because i had to go un-stick molly

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ugh fuck this EDD

wraith shard Nov 21, 2020, 9:51 AM

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here we go boys

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starting my EDD for the week

proud fulcrum Nov 21, 2020, 9:52 AM

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have fun :)

wraith shard Nov 21, 2020, 9:52 AM

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hopefully its not too evil

proud fulcrum Nov 21, 2020, 9:52 AM

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its certainly something

gleaming cave Nov 21, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Didn't even realize it was a week already. Anything I need to know about this week's EDD?

wraith shard Nov 21, 2020, 10:27 AM

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so far seems super breezy

weak pivot Nov 21, 2020, 10:29 AM

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molly gets stuck in the area where the explosive plants are, if you route her around that patch bit by bit, she's pretty much glitch free...if someone calls her away from there though then GG

wraith shard Nov 21, 2020, 11:13 AM

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so

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cant see the damage on the drilldozer...

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it shows as 100 and it is absolutely not good

warped berry Nov 21, 2020, 11:43 AM

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This EDD is cancer

thorny geyser Nov 21, 2020, 12:24 PM

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I keep getting dwarves who stand underneath the rocks

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then they get smushed and then they quit right away

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elves, i frigging swear

thorny geyser Nov 21, 2020, 1:32 PM

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this edd is certainly something different

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ive had so many ragequitters, its not even funny anymore

modest acorn Nov 21, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Anyone looking to knock out this EDD?

radiant zealot Nov 21, 2020, 5:31 PM

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We had a perfect run.. great team. But on the second stage of the EDD dorry turned around in the last cave before the heartstone and drove straight back to the starting point where she was stuck... sucked hard. Had to abort.

radiant granite Nov 21, 2020, 5:42 PM

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this was my first elite deep dive so I don't have perspective really but it was definitely very hard

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second mission wiped us of almost all ammo, 3rd was a nightmare because we were struggling to get a foothold at the start

tawdry spade Nov 21, 2020, 5:55 PM

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my normal stack couldnt clear the 2nd mission cause we were pressed for time

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so i'm looking for a clear this week

ocean vale Nov 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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we cant find the second mini mule on stage 2. we restartet the mission 2 times

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anyone know where we can find it?

plush ravine Nov 21, 2020, 6:09 PM

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it's in a separate room above the path dore drilled through

ocean vale Nov 21, 2020, 6:13 PM

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thanks @plush ravine

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we got it 🙂

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is that a bug or is that normal ( first time deep dive)

plush ravine Nov 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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not really

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Just some sort of pathing issue(I guess)

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Might be a minor bug

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But deep dives are always like this

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abnormal things kind of happen in deep dives

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Like dore will drill straight thourgh an egg when the main object is escort and the secondary is egg hunt

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and you will have 2 swarms tgt

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I've heard the deep dives was randomly generated and adjusted a bit, not sure tho

turbid kestrel Nov 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Second stage of EDD is oof

atomic apex Nov 21, 2020, 7:03 PM

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i did edd second try because my team was really fing pog

thorny geyser Nov 21, 2020, 7:03 PM

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its most definitely doable, it just tests your deathmatching skills

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then in the third stage our team wiped because of stupid mistakes like getting stuck in egghole

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im a little peeved

radiant granite Nov 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I did it first try but it was really close. 2nd stage drilldozer was almost destroyed and 2 people were down when it finished

fringe kettle Nov 21, 2020, 7:15 PM

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plush ravine I've heard the deep dives was randomly generated and adjusted a bit, not sure th...

Deep dives are randomly generated every week. Devs do play though them and they have issued a hotfix in the past to fix issues with specific dives, but that's not a common thing.

karmic juniper Nov 21, 2020, 7:41 PM

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How brutal is the elite deep dive

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Never done one before and thinking about it

vapid monolith Nov 21, 2020, 7:48 PM

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This is the worst fucking one I’ve seen since I started in May

potent charm Nov 21, 2020, 8:22 PM

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I thought the second before this was worst, the one with o2 warning on liquid morkite mission

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Passed this one with randoms and no voice

frosty mantle Nov 21, 2020, 8:35 PM

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is it just me or was this weeks edd insane

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reading above guess its not just me

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all im saying is bring a fat boy engi for stage 2

mint jay Nov 21, 2020, 8:50 PM

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You guys have discovered the "secret room" in the normal DD ?

hidden vapor Nov 21, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Where?

frosty mantle Nov 21, 2020, 9:02 PM

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i dont think its really a secret room i think that's just how cave gen worls

mint jay Nov 21, 2020, 9:04 PM

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It's only a big cave generated a little before the 1st stop, you have to go there by hand

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There's just a little nitra there

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@frosty mantle And yeah, ik, that's why I said "secret room"

vapid monolith Nov 21, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Fuck this edd

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2nd fuel canister didn’t spawn

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What the fuck

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Run was perfect

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Then invis canister at spawn

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Fuck

frosty mantle Nov 21, 2020, 9:17 PM

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?

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what stage are you talking about

vapid monolith Nov 21, 2020, 9:17 PM

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The fuel canister during refuel didn’t fucking spawn

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During stage 2 1st refuel

frosty mantle Nov 21, 2020, 9:17 PM

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like you tried to take it out of the drill and it didnt spawn

vapid monolith Nov 21, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Yup

frosty mantle Nov 21, 2020, 9:18 PM

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oof

mint jay Nov 21, 2020, 9:18 PM

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How is that even possible

frosty mantle Nov 21, 2020, 9:18 PM

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escort still as buggy as ever

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one of the many reason i just dislike escort

mint jay Nov 21, 2020, 9:39 PM

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The location of the dreadnought in the last mission tho

wraith shard Nov 21, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Hmmm

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Does anyone know where the second mini MULE is on the second stage of the normal DD?

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We found the one behind the heartstone

fringe kettle Nov 21, 2020, 9:49 PM

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others have said it's in a hidden room above dorettas path

wraith shard Nov 21, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Hmmm

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Good to know at least

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Where would it be?

karmic juniper Nov 21, 2020, 9:50 PM

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You can still hear it from the main path

mint jay Nov 21, 2020, 9:53 PM

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@wraith shard I had mine in the room of the first stop but yeah, there's a cave, if you go back into the tunnel at the first stop, you can see on the map, there's a big cave above

wraith shard Nov 21, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Found it, thanks guys ^^

gloomy herald Nov 21, 2020, 10:00 PM

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really depends on the mission types and modifiers

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correct me if im wrong but i believe normal dd is haz 3.5-4.5 and edd is haz 4.5-5.5

marsh bane Nov 21, 2020, 10:03 PM

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This week's is over 9000

mint jay Nov 21, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Nice

frosty mantle Nov 21, 2020, 10:05 PM

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honestly it depends on the mods

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dd can be harder than edd

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with bad mods

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though edd are generally harder

vale falcon Nov 21, 2020, 10:07 PM

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What

frosty mantle Nov 21, 2020, 10:07 PM

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the modifiers like haunted cave or low o2

vapid monolith Nov 21, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Only took six hours to beat this edd gg ez

feral oasis Nov 21, 2020, 10:57 PM

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A win is a win

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Get em

empty roost Nov 22, 2020, 12:33 AM

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does anyone know the percentage damage of the Embedded Detonators overclock for the scouts SMG

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id like to know how much damage i do on reload

fringe kettle Nov 22, 2020, 12:33 AM

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un momento

frail zodiac Nov 22, 2020, 12:35 AM

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around 36 iirc

fringe kettle Nov 22, 2020, 12:36 AM

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38 I believe per bullet embedded

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subuta is 42

empty roost Nov 22, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Thank you. Was wondering how much raw damage i outputted

upper forum Nov 22, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Yeesh this week`s edd was... annoying

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Petition to never have escort in edd ever again

vocal knoll Nov 22, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Is solo DD even doable? Drilldozer seems like a real hassle.

subtle charm Nov 22, 2020, 1:16 AM

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anyone keen for a DD or eDD

vocal knoll Nov 22, 2020, 1:17 AM

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radiant zealot We had a perfect run.. great team. But on the second stage of the EDD dorry turn...

Only ran into that once before early in update 32, was hoping the devs had fixed it.

zinc coral Nov 22, 2020, 2:10 AM

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im sorry to the team i left behind, it wont let me reconnect 😭

delicate geode Nov 22, 2020, 2:44 AM

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EDD escort should definitely only have one fuel stop

tardy trench Nov 22, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Normal DD bugged for me, the drilldozer started taking constant damage about halfway through

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Enough that one person had to repair all the time

echo comet Nov 22, 2020, 3:03 AM

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I just finished the elite DD and man that 2nd stage is hell

azure spoke Nov 22, 2020, 3:26 AM

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I had tha tdrilldozer taking continuous damage bug last week, on some mission or other

untold spruce Nov 22, 2020, 3:27 AM

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2nd EDD broke for us as well, around half way through doretta turned around and went back to spawn in a straight line

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after reaching the spawn it just stayed there

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never seen that happen before

tardy trench Nov 22, 2020, 3:28 AM

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It has happened to me once

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Not on a deep dive, though

fringe kettle Nov 22, 2020, 3:30 AM

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untold spruce 2nd EDD broke for us as well, around half way through doretta turned around and ...

did you or a teammate drill ahead of doretta to as of yet unexplored rooms?

untold spruce Nov 22, 2020, 3:32 AM

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we grabbed the 2nd objective eggs first

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i guess that breaks it then?

fringe kettle Nov 22, 2020, 3:33 AM

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drilling ahead doesn't guarantee her pathing will break, but it increases your odds quite a bit.

crude knot Nov 22, 2020, 3:37 AM

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can soemone link me the dive scans?

fringe kettle Nov 22, 2020, 3:37 AM

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pinned messages

crude knot Nov 22, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Ty

untold spruce Nov 22, 2020, 3:40 AM

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also dunno if related, but dorettas HP bars were broken that time too, they stayed at 100% even when it was actually damaged

broken skiff Nov 22, 2020, 3:44 AM

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i know in normal DD doretta took constant damage for my group even tho nothing was attacking it

sand crag Nov 22, 2020, 3:55 AM

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aight solo deep dive is gonna be a whole new degree of challenging. detonator spawns during escort? Monka

manic flare Nov 22, 2020, 4:00 AM

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What happens when you wipe on the last phase of a DD? you go again from phase 1?

viral tulip Nov 22, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Yup

manic flare Nov 22, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Well, I'm down to try again ahaha

misty scaffold Nov 22, 2020, 4:59 AM

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broken skiff i know in normal DD doretta took constant damage for my group even tho nothing w...

happens often with me

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honestly I'm totally fed up with escort missions

fringe kettle Nov 22, 2020, 4:59 AM

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The working theory among us testers is rad crystals rad dot is continuously applied if doretta is damaged by one to begin with.

broken skiff Nov 22, 2020, 5:00 AM

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good to know, ill try clearing them out before doretta has a chance to run into them, next time

fringe kettle Nov 22, 2020, 5:01 AM

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that's what I'd recommend for the deep dives. For normal play I'd just avoid radioactive escort for now.

broken skiff Nov 22, 2020, 5:07 AM

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thanks

sand crag Nov 22, 2020, 5:08 AM

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yeah this deep dive ain't feasibly soloable, that was brutal

scenic marlin Nov 22, 2020, 5:08 AM

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I guess everyone has to play their role perfectly in this week's EDD

misty scaffold Nov 22, 2020, 5:10 AM

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It was my first attempt at EDD this week lmao

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I'm traumatized

scenic marlin Nov 22, 2020, 5:11 AM

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I enjoy the challenge but the ability of enemies to stack on one another to multi-hit you is very frustrating

echo comet Nov 22, 2020, 6:58 AM

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misty scaffold I'm traumatized

don't worry, they usually aren't this hard

wraith shard Nov 22, 2020, 7:11 AM

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starch

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NUT

ornate mortar Nov 22, 2020, 7:29 AM

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In my DD the dozer got bugged and was constantly taking 1% every second, I had to mute my game.

radiant granite Nov 22, 2020, 8:09 AM

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that bug seems pretty common right now.

wraith shard Nov 22, 2020, 8:29 AM

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my second attempt at the EDD begins

wraith shard Nov 22, 2020, 8:50 AM

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287 nitra left, starting mission 2

short charm Nov 22, 2020, 8:58 AM

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This EDD was a bit of a bother, took me 3 attempts with two different groups to finally get it done. Also, is it just me or has this update been rather unstable?

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The game crashed 4 times for me yesterday, which is very unusual. Crashes used to only happen like once every two months or so. After the 4th crash, I was able to play for several hours until I eventually called it a day.

wraith shard Nov 22, 2020, 9:06 AM

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cannot seem to get this EDD

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3rd attempt lmao

radiant granite Nov 22, 2020, 9:13 AM

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I haven't had any crashes this update

wraith shard Nov 22, 2020, 9:36 AM

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back to mission 2, yikes

wraith shard Nov 22, 2020, 10:21 AM

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on mission 3, phew

red badge Nov 22, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Stage 2 of the EDD sounds like the one to beat. I've been 2 manning them for the last few months.

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Gonna try it today probably

vast valve Nov 22, 2020, 2:29 PM

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i ran full freeze cryo driller and our gunner had carpet bomber autocannon

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we beat it first try but it wasn't easy even then

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if the dive has a colossal amount of swarmers and/or shockers (like this one) using the T5 AoE cooldown mod for the freeze ray is a godsend

radiant zealot Nov 22, 2020, 2:34 PM

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vocal knoll Only ran into that once before early in update 32, was hoping the devs had fixed...

Had this happening twice. Once before update 32 and once after. Seems to happen when you pre-drill the caves. Has to do something with it according to the support-guys. Gives you a small chance to get bugged like that. We did that both times.

red badge Nov 22, 2020, 2:42 PM

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We go Gunner and Engi. Gunner often runs minigun on escort for deleting the laser towers instantly. It'll be Gemini turrets for dealing with swarmers, which worries me a bit

pastel juniper Nov 22, 2020, 2:51 PM

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iron will / field medic restores between deep dive stages, right ?

bitter comet Nov 22, 2020, 2:52 PM

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yes

pastel juniper Nov 22, 2020, 2:52 PM

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ty

vapid monolith Nov 22, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Edd took eight attempts, need a good driller stage one, fat boy engi stage two, and gunner stage three

thorny geyser Nov 22, 2020, 3:22 PM

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sweet merciful karl, got it done

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Like ancient heroes of old, we got stood by each other and got it done. We made a plan and everyone knew their place and got it done.

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One thing I would recommend for everyone is that prepare to kill obscene amounts of shockers and swarmers.

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Gemini turrets, autocannon, flamethrower, the works

pastel juniper Nov 22, 2020, 3:52 PM

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our dozer just never stopped on stage2 of edd

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ran out of fuel, kept going

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oh nevermind, its going back to the start

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it dug a straight path to the first chamber, stopped 20 feet from the heavy cargo drop pod

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and is spinning in spot w/ no fuel

fringe kettle Nov 22, 2020, 3:57 PM

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drilling ahead of doretta can cause pathing issues

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best to let her lead the way

pastel juniper Nov 22, 2020, 3:58 PM

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that would explain it, driller made a hole to last chamber

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any way to make it work again, or do we just abandon

fringe kettle Nov 22, 2020, 3:59 PM

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if she's stopped over the original drop pod spawn location then you'll have to abandon.

pastel juniper Nov 22, 2020, 3:59 PM

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same chamber, not over it

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pathed back to starting room, 180'd and is just sitting a bit away from that spawn point

fringe kettle Nov 22, 2020, 3:59 PM

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you'll probably have to abandon

pastel juniper Nov 22, 2020, 3:59 PM

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oh dwarf pod spot, got it, yup thats where it is

visual lake Nov 22, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Btw I noticed turret ammo getting refilled in between stages on DD is a new bug that was introduced recently ?

fringe kettle Nov 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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That's been bugged for a while

spring vapor Nov 22, 2020, 5:51 PM

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I just got outsmarted by the heartstone

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We all went down and I iron will'd up to resupply

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and 0.3 seconds before the resupply was done

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it USED THE KNOCKBACK FROM THE STAGE TRANSITION TO STOP ME

vale falcon Nov 22, 2020, 6:13 PM

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it outsmarted your outsmarting

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consider yourself goofed

vocal knoll Nov 22, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Tried to solo DD, stupid bulk detonators on stage 2 are ridiculous

honest olive Nov 22, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Can you not join another deep dive in progress?

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Do you need to squad up before the start?

frail zodiac Nov 22, 2020, 6:44 PM

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yes

feral oasis Nov 22, 2020, 6:59 PM

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When running deep dives you have to squad up beforehand since joining mid game is impossible for deep dives

thorny geyser Nov 22, 2020, 8:05 PM

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man, stage 3 after stage 2 in EDD felt like nice vacation

delicate geode Nov 22, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Yeah wasn't too bad. My team triggered a lot of mini-mule waves at once but the eggs were no big deal. At least three bulks tho, just glad they waited for stage 3 to show up.

eternal zephyr Nov 22, 2020, 8:33 PM

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it says you can rejoin a deep dive if you disconnect

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how exactly?

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we just got all the eggs in the third stage of the elite deep dive, then i disconnect

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no option to reconnect in pause menu or deep dive terminal

delicate geode Nov 22, 2020, 8:35 PM

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I think Ive had the "attempt to rejoin?" prompt pop up but it can be unreliable

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Last time it happened to me only thing that ended up working was a new invite thru discord

eternal zephyr Nov 22, 2020, 8:36 PM

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oh its a prompt?

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i just got a black screen then back on the space rig

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the attempt before that i was playing with some dudes who decided to grief in stage 2 when we got to the heartstone

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done with drg for today

meager topaz Nov 22, 2020, 8:56 PM

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is there a reason every time I try to join a DD it says join failed?

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even when there are 2-3, open slots

foggy ridge Nov 22, 2020, 9:18 PM

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found a bet-c on stage 1 edd, is that normal? i'm kinda new to edds

final shard Nov 22, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Can someone help me; I am receiving a lot of notifications from this Discord on my own channel and I would like it to stop. I have tried to disable this by muting the #announcements, I've even tried leaving this discord server but I am still receiving the notifications/announcements. The 'ON' button is easy to find but, how do I turn it off? Thanks in advance.

fringe kettle Nov 22, 2020, 10:12 PM

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you clicked on that tempting follow button didn't you? https://i.imgur.com/6dpiJaq.png

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https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028384531-Channel-Following-FAQ

honest olive Nov 22, 2020, 10:15 PM

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dw

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Hey, anyone want to do a Elite Deep Dive?

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Got an open group ready to go

zinc coral Nov 22, 2020, 11:33 PM

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https://puu.sh/GQfDM/037f4162c3.jpg That was quite a stressful of an EDD. Ran 3 gunners (minigun and Carpet bombers), and I ran sticky fuel driller.

marsh bane Nov 22, 2020, 11:36 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/ubowdUN.jpg The game bugged second time on 2nd mission of EDD. Doretta went all the way back from 2nd fuel stage. I don't think i have the patience to try one more time.. GL.

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manic pivotBOT Nov 23, 2020, 12:00 AM

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rocknstone ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep_Dive Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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thorny geyser Nov 23, 2020, 12:27 AM

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@zinc coral thats a very balanced split between kills

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1667983596734943395/3E475AF087B7EC08C764320F78D245166E668E97/

weak pivot Nov 23, 2020, 1:28 AM

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usually it's the engie with most kills due to turrets + swarmers

surreal fern Nov 23, 2020, 2:15 AM

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https://imgur.com/x0ceHKw This is pog

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Respect to the developers fixing the bug on mission 2 with orgin swap

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Challenge dd, worth it

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long haul

wraith shard Nov 23, 2020, 4:59 AM

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2nd stage Doretta still turning around. Becoming very frustrating. No pre clear 2nd time this has happened to me .

wraith vigil Nov 23, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Had my first deep dive today just thought I'd celebrate Rock and Stone brothers!

marsh bane Nov 23, 2020, 3:53 PM

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is it %100 certain that dozer kills the betc on stage2 edd?

thorny geyser Nov 23, 2020, 4:33 PM

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ive always had it happen

tardy trench Nov 23, 2020, 5:27 PM

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2nd attempt on normal DD, same bug

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Constant damage on doretta

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Started at the same place too

keen ridge Nov 23, 2020, 6:24 PM

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I had it happen in a random stage too

lilac lagoon Nov 23, 2020, 6:43 PM

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I also had the constant damage bug on stage 2 of DD, didnt happen 2nd try though

hoary pecan Nov 23, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Some people think it might get activated by doretta smashing through a radiation crystal but idk

sturdy field Nov 23, 2020, 7:13 PM

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This weeks EDD is probably the most fun I've ever had beating it

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The first stage went smoothly with a spooky wave on top of the dread fight but we handled it well. Our driller new his sticky fuel mechanics like the back of his hand. Scout and engi were my friends and were running nukes and m1000 so the omaran stage went very well. We failed one Time before when we were with a random gunner and driller but we retried a day later and killed it. We had so much ammo for the last stage so we had a really chill time.

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Good edd

wraith shard Nov 23, 2020, 7:27 PM

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OK, glad to know I'm not the only one experience the constant damage on Doretta. Was going f---ing insane thinking something had clipped underneath her while we were refueling.

thorny geyser Nov 23, 2020, 7:34 PM

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yeah, i had it when i solo'd regular DD

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just had to waddle back to fix it every once in a while

marble pivot Nov 23, 2020, 8:34 PM

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The drilldozer with lethal enemies, then add those tiny insects makes me wish I used cryo

feral atlas Nov 23, 2020, 8:35 PM

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driller's loadout doens't significantly affect that mission

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engi and gunner are the important players

thorny geyser Nov 23, 2020, 8:47 PM

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keeping the swarmers and shockers off the back of your team is crucial

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flamethrower, autocannon, turrets

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pheromones can give you a lot of breathing room

feral atlas Nov 23, 2020, 8:51 PM

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specifically for this mission, a decent AC build will handle the small squishies, or any semi decent engi setup that isn't a meme on hyper propellent

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scout and driller can try to hail mary the mission if the engi and gunner suck

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but that's what it is, a hail mary attempt on a team that's already basically half lost the game while on the loading screen

gilded cosmos Nov 23, 2020, 9:37 PM

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I try play the elite deep dive but all the teams are like under level 20 lol no idea about perks or even what to do in some missions such as the driller not making tunnels on morkite mining .

feral atlas Nov 23, 2020, 9:38 PM

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a piece of advice

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generally, for harder EDDs, it's best to do it in the Thurs-Sunday timeframe

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if you intend on pubbing

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because the better players usually finish them in the first or second go, and don't do it again

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as time goes on, the player pool attempting them gets worse

wooden wing Nov 23, 2020, 9:44 PM

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We just got to level 25, any tips for our first deep dive?

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Not like gameplay tips, but anything to make it fun in general, or things to keep in mind?

full gulch Nov 23, 2020, 10:03 PM

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@wooden wing nah just dive in and see how it goes - just be ready for 3 back-to-back missions! Oh and your Nitra carries over between missions, so don't waste it at the end of the 1st and 2nd missions.

spiral tapir Nov 23, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Waste it at the end of the third instead

wraith shard Nov 23, 2020, 11:22 PM

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The speed and lethality of the swarmers forced me to use the autocannon when I normally run lead storm.

outer prawn Nov 24, 2020, 12:11 AM

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IS THE 2ND STAGE BROKEN?

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In the regular dd?

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I can't attacth photos

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but this is seriously screwe

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d

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Dotty just decided

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about 100 meters from the hearthstone

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to turn around

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and make a straight line

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all the way back to where she dropped

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and now

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she turned again

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and is stuck

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mid air

echo edge Nov 24, 2020, 12:17 AM

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It s a random chance to be bugged you might try again and be fine on your 2nd run

fringe kettle Nov 24, 2020, 12:18 AM

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First off, make them sentences bud

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don't

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talk

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like

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this

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Second, did anyone on your team drill ahead of doretta to unexplored sections of the cave?

wraith shard Nov 24, 2020, 12:57 AM

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That Doretta turning around bug is happening on normal DD too? I've had that Doretta turn around 2/2 times with 4 people I got to heart stone (no pre-clear). The one time Doretta didn't turn around was during a duo pre-update but rock+venom end the run (yes pre clear). Haven't attempted a 3rd yet out of frustration. Has anyone on windows 10 version done stage 2 of EDD post-update without Doretta turning around at the end? Also I had xbox players in my group IDK if that makes a difference I assume they got update too.

fringe kettle Nov 24, 2020, 1:00 AM

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drilling ahead of doretta significantly increases the chances her pathfinding will screw up resulting in her returning to spawn

plain tartan Nov 24, 2020, 1:02 AM

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I completed DD on windows version

wraith shard Nov 24, 2020, 1:04 AM

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i have done DD fine (molly stuck but dug her out stage 2) but EDD I seem to get Doretta going back to spawn (drop pod spawn) when we reach the end every time.

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Just boggles my mind how she decides to turn the **** around at the end and then goes past the cage your release her from to the drop pod spawn. to just float in the air.

eternal blade Nov 24, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Was just heading back to the drop pod at the last stage of the DD, lost connection, can't reconnect, big RIP

weak pivot Nov 24, 2020, 2:01 AM

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So, I'm messed up or something, but I've cleared stage 2 of EDD twice now just for the fun of it, that first refuel where doretta parks in the patch of explosive plants 100% glitches molly.

The tip for unglitching molly is, before you leave the area, pickaxe below molly to make her move even just a little. Keep summoning in small increments and lead her all the way around that patch of explosive plants. The wider the circle the better (there's another small glitchy patch where more plants are in the top of the mini cliff)

In my last run, molly glitched again between the last egg (first being closest to heart stone, last being closest to spawn). I haven't figured out where that is specifically, if I had to guess, it may be where explosive plants were.

keen pond Nov 24, 2020, 3:06 AM

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she didn't turn on DD for me, but constant damage bug happaned plus i played engi and my turrets UI disappered

hoary pecan Nov 24, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Well just finished my first deep, did it solo cause no one joined

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I am not going to be able to do the EDD solo the escort mission in the DD was already rough for me because of acid spitters

marsh bane Nov 24, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Does anyone hear sounds in the starting room of dozer 2nd stage of EDD while dozer is stopped for fuel? Sounds like construction site. That might have some relation with the bug.

next pebble Nov 24, 2020, 7:48 AM

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It doesn't have anything to do with the bug where doretta takes constant damage, unfortunately

sand crag Nov 24, 2020, 9:21 AM

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i'm gonna do it. i'm gonna solo run the deep dive.

flat dirge Nov 24, 2020, 9:27 AM

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do it without any weapon mods selected

hoary pecan Nov 24, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Stage 2 is the main issue

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Acid spitters do a surprising amount of damage to doretta

empty roost Nov 24, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Did the dive solo as the scout.
The DD mission was okay but I had 3 bulk detonator spawns.

Thank god for explosive reload overclock

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The last mission was the one I had most difficulty on, that dreadnought spawn was painful

quartz badge Nov 24, 2020, 3:20 PM

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outer prawn IS THE 2ND STAGE BROKEN?

We had the exact same problem and needed to restart the dive

short charm Nov 24, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Someone challenged us to do the latest EDD as a Scout duo, saying it was "impossible" to finish stage 2. Honestly, we did way better than expected. https://i.imgur.com/RlwF1Xt.jpg

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M1000 with Electrocuting Focus Shots + Zhukovs with Gas Recycling + IFG on me. Profane used GK2 with BoM, Boomstick with Special powder and Cryo grenades.

kind bough Nov 24, 2020, 5:18 PM

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lollin' at "we lost 2 parts to rocks" in #drg-chat

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scout? losing parts to rocks? what're the odds!

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~~god I hate drilldozer~~

short charm Nov 24, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Yeah we couldn't keep up with the bugs AND rocks at the same time, I think this is the part that I feel is a bit unbalanced. As Scout, you'll burn through just about all your ammo in this part JUST shooting the rocks.

shrewd cosmos Nov 24, 2020, 5:24 PM

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I think me running out of cryo nades while we got swarmed with the rocks was the reason it broke two parts

short charm Nov 24, 2020, 5:26 PM

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I also ran out of ammo for my secondary. Which is what I mostly used for that part. Even with them specced for 700 bullets, they run out so fast.

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Thank Karl we had so much nitra in this run, you could just restock whenever you wanted.

heavy oriole Nov 24, 2020, 8:36 PM

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I can confirm, I was the challenger. And I am astonished/impressed by this feat.

sleek verge Nov 24, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Towards the end of part 2 of the edd, doretta turned around and drilled straight to spawn??

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GG's :/

eager parcel Nov 24, 2020, 9:18 PM

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I hear people saying that happens if you drill ahead to clear room/grab the eggs and stuff