deep-dive-discussion

[vapid monolith]

Put a resupp each near the two wells that are far from the extractor

And drill the well that’s close and high up

[mortal thorn]

After this week's EDD I finally concluded that I hate escort missions solo. Especially when there's so many enemies and devs still havent fixed the problem when bugs can attack Doretta from below

Like, it can take damage from them, but you cant even kill them, and you also need to fix the dame drilldozer like its made of wet tissue

[cursive violet]

What’s the point of deep dives again? I just got on after months of not playing

[vale falcon]

overclocks

[red heron]

For those, who can't find 3rd leg for 2nd mini-mule in EDD 1st stage
https://i.imgur.com/5oZcbeI.jpg

[worthy crag]

@echo aspen If you haven't managed to complete the second stage yet I suggest chilling in the drop pod until the refinery drops and then rushing over to it

[vapid monolith]

For escort to be more balanced for single player, bosco needs better prio on ceiling bugs or web spitter gen needs to be cut back

[junior fossil]

for the escort I would love it if the bugs would stop attacking from under the drilldozer, you cant shoot them that way :/

[echo aspen]

@echo aspen If you haven't managed to complete the second stage yet I suggest chilling in the drop pod until the refinery drops and then rushing over to it
@worthy crag that's kinda what we did the second time but we rushed instantly to the refinery spawn point, the main issue we had was the extremely cramped layout of the map coupled with the buttloads of enemies that would spawn that made it hard to survive during swarms

[zinc coral]

wow..that initial drop on 2nd stage of EDD is pretty insane lol...gotta have that part down planned or else team crumbles apart for subsequent waves trying to collect itself together

[mild salmon]

i can only get cores once from deep dives correct

[spark grail]

Correct

[junior fossil]

once per dive, they change weekly, both elite and normal counts as their own

[robust tundra]

Dude the second one ...

pain in the ass

[indigo jungle]

spent 15 minutes on stage 2 reviving people as scout

pretty sure I had 20 revives total

often seen: drillers who don't use drills and engies who don't put down turrets

[mild salmon]

yeah the elite is a lot harder than the normal

[indigo jungle]

finally passed stage 2

[mild salmon]

nice

[indigo jungle]

1057 kills as driller

what in the

[manic pivot]

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We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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[tender holly]

😮

I've been missing my deep dives the past few weeks. I should prob get on that.

[wraith shard]

Does anybody else think that the minigun's usefulness drops off at higher difficulties and the autocannon becomes much more preferable?

I tend to get overwhelmed way faster even when taking advantage of blowthrough round collateral kills and switching targets as quickly as I can.

It just throws so much stuff at you that you need the AC's swarm clear.

[jade sorrel]

i only use the minigun for elimination missions now

[quasi galleon]

Autocannons better at swarm maintenance. But worse off against bigger targets. More of a support gun.

Comes down to how many praetorians you fight.

[wraith shard]

That's carpet bomber, splintering shells still has pretty good single target DPS

It affects your choice if sidearm too

Elephant rounds can kill pratorians very efficiently as well as long-range threats so it's got you covered

[quasi galleon]

not as good as minigun is the point, that thing s h r e a d s.

[worthy crag]

well if you take, say, lead spray BRT, you're going to beat the minigun's dps on your HVTs

Ideally someone else (scout) really should be handling long range threats anyway imo

[remote ice]

Im in a normal deep dive, first mission

and we cant find a leg for a minimule

so uh
is it bugged

[vale falcon]

cant see it on the radar?

[chrome meadow]

@remote ice elite dive first stage?

[vale falcon]

Im in a normal deep dive, first mission

[chrome meadow]

Oh

Check up high and down low in the vicinity

[remote ice]

we found it

[lime pivot]

question, how many people have actually gotten past the second stage of the EDD? Cause it's just f*cking impossible man

the swarm frequency is too high on a rig mission that has no rig turrets to help you out

along with horrible spawn placement of the rig itself, you can't see the bugs coming

[tardy vapor]

We died after exiting the drop pod on that one

[plush ravine]

Have a good driller that know how to help the team will help, or be the driller yourself

I made a big flat fighting arena for swarm right next to the refinery

and drill straight to the wells

My gunner had 2 zipline crossed each other forming a X shape in the arena

and we just hanged there chilling

[junior fossil]

the way I gotten through the 2nd stage is, first drop a resupply next to where you land.

clear the big mess around you, continue to make a bridge to the upstairs area, then move to the refinery and make a few platforms to pull the pipes through

yeah it is hard to see the bugs coming so I relayed alot on proxy mines, breach cutter and chain electric stubby

[sudden mortar]

@lime pivot my PUG almost wiped after getting out of the pod at stage 2 but somehow we managed to get ourselves back up and running again and it was smooth sailing from there

our biggest problem was a bronze 1 star greenbeard engineer who died I think 16 times so we effectively had to 3 man it

[wintry isle]

looking for a deepdive team

who know what they doing

[golden crystal]

i was able to beat stage 2 solo, i just put resupply pods next to each of the pumpjacks and tried to get the pipelines done as soon as possible, i unfortunately lost the EDD because i thought it would be a smart idea to pull 3 eggs at once on stage 3, i then got stunlocked, grabbed by grabbers and flown into a bulk and taken into the bottom room with a spitball with little to no cover.

[warm notch]

Id imagine making a bunker on stage 2 with an ammo pod for o2 would be great

[clever crest]

right until the first oppressor.

[warm notch]

dig around? laser cut? c4?

[jade sorrel]

it's all fun and games until a bulk detonator digs into your bunker

[autumn minnow]

How's the deep dive?

[sudden mortar]

1 and 3 is pretty chill

stage 2 start is extreme

[autumn minnow]

sounds based

[tepid quail]

1 was normal, 2 is a hellhole, 3 is a joke in comparison

[cobalt linden]

omg My team did it!

Beat Elite Deep Dive.

That was painful after several several tries.

[mortal thorn]

Nice, just finished this week's EDD with my friend and some random guys

2 stage with a driller was very easy

I played as scout and just collected every piece of nitra that I could get, so we always had ammo

3 stage was a breeze

btw, there was a bulk and the big horde of the enemies at the start of the third stage

[plush wind]

the bulk tried to sneak up on us near the blackbox on s3 but our driller was able to freeze it before we finish it off

2 of us said nice at the same time lol

[drowsy spruce]

Thinking of running driller cryo freeze build for edd. Any thoughts?

Thinking drill vampire build as well but since I haven't seen the anamolies, I'm not sure what perks to pick

[civic ledge]

I’ve been running the regular one’s solo, are there any groups looking for a gunner for EDDs?

[feral oasis]

I've run all my deep dives solo

[civic ledge]

I’m a little concerned. Not sure how difficult it is compared to the other one

[feral oasis]

Everyone says its like haz 4-5 for EDD

[civic ledge]

So I’ve heard

But I’m good at haz 4 and awful at haz 5

[feral oasis]

It IS harder than the regular deep dive, this weeks 2nd stage was hard for me

[civic ledge]

So I’ve heard, lol

[feral oasis]

refinery + low oxy = no thank you

[civic ledge]

At least Boscoe can fix leaks and build pipes without O2

I remember a low O2 PE a few weeks ago

[feral oasis]

I dont have too much of a problem with O2, but the constant attacks on refinery and PE tend to wear me down

[civic ledge]

This might be a bit simple of a response, however: just get the objectives done faster.

[mortal thorn]

Well, have YOU tried this week's EDD solo?

[feral oasis]

Yes

[mortal thorn]

Not you, but the guy who said that you just need to do objectives faster

[civic ledge]

I’ve never done an EDD, lol. Just a low O2 on-site in isolation

[vale falcon]

hot tip, you should try out an edd before telling people what to do in the edd

[civic ledge]

Git gud scrubs

I’m gonna go beat this EDD first try just to style on y’all

[vale falcon]

👀 go right on ahead

[civic ledge]

Hang on, gotta finish class. I’ll start at 9:00pm, stay tuned

[feral oasis]

Give em the ole one and done for the EDD

This weeks EDD put me down a few times on stage 2 but I never failed the run

[civic ledge]

Well...

Loss on first

Exactly what I why I avoid it

Web spitters knocked me twice before the first refuel, and damaged the drill, slashers shredded the second during the first heart stone section, and the drill spontaneously exploded right after. 100-0 in 2 seconds

Like I said before I was criticized for not running one, haz 5 wipes the floor with me. Too many bugs coming from too many places dealing too much damage. I’d be fine with all grunts, thank you

[visual lake]

Haz 5 is kinda punishing to sloppy ness and rushing

If the team isn’t ready

[civic ledge]

Team?

I wasn’t rushing, really, just overwhelmed. I’ve only completed one hazard 5 before. And I’ve yet to beat escort with gunner. I’ve been trying to promote other classes.

[visual lake]

It’s all about positioning and knowing where and when to fight

Some areas are just plain 100% death so it’s better to fallback during a wave

Sometimes the mini spawns are dense so you gotta figure it how to move . The big thing in haz 5 is that there is a huge variance in wave sizes

[civic ledge]

I’m just trying not to let doretta die in 2 seconds like she has been.

Always right at the start of the second heartstone phase

😦 I was so close

Well that’s it for me tonight

[hallow meadow]

ok, who deigns the second mission map, mob place ment to the Deep dive core elit mission.

[civic ledge]

RNGesus

I would love to know what everyone's upset about, but unfortunately dorretta is made of tissue paper on elite deep dives, and I couldn't protect her because I wasn't prepared to go from winning with no casualties on haz 4 to losing if left unattended for literally any amount of time.

@mortal thorn @vale falcon I concede, for now. But I will return once I have beaten the dive

Then I shall once again insist that you can avoid facing the annoying, randomly spawning waves by just beating the stage faster

[worn badger]

Rushing isn't always the way though as others have told you lol

People gave you good advice and not your response of just beat it faster, as that isn't always the way.

[civic ledge]

This is about the principle.

It was a joke at first, but now i am determined

besides, I wouldn't be doing the EDD at all if it weren't for this challenge I've given myself. I know I'm not prepared, I don't have the game sense and awareness to correctly implement the advice that I've been given, even though I appreciate it

At first I wanted to beat the elite deep dive because they said I shouldn't be giving advice without playing it. Now I want to beat it just to prove to myself that I can. The whole "do it faster" is just a bit

[mortal thorn]

Dont sweat it, you have 2 days anyway. If you started the previous week, it would be fair, but now you dont have much time

[civic ledge]

Not to mention I have work to be doing instead of practicing the deep dive. Not sure if I'll make it, but I am excited

I was so close after two real attempts, and only failed because I tried to rush the second leg of the escort without ammo (which, to be fair, I almost beat)

I think I can do the first section with just a little more practice. Then I'll finally get to see this horror show on stage 2 for myself

[visual lake]

@civic ledge you can always go driller and pre drill and clear out the subsequent rooms

Then run doretta all the way

If you pre mine all the oil vacuuming it up is super quick

[daring abyss]

Someone sure is arrogant

Best of luck out there miner

[feral oasis]

He’ll get it eventually

[digital bolt]

Usually my crew of 4 has a few weak links but we're able to pick up the slack in dives of the past

[feral oasis]

Bosco is my crew

[digital bolt]

Usually we get it done in 1 or 2 restarts at the most

This stage 2 took us what, 5 restarts?

[feral oasis]

I had to set up supply pods at the pump jacks just so every pipe had access to O2

[digital bolt]

We needed everyone to focus and be on point to be able beat it

We had supplies EVERYWHERE. But the swarmer hordes were just too overwhelming when your weakest link was a driller

[feral oasis]

The swarmers will do it for sure, my general rule for refinery swarms is to constantly grind on the pipes since it’s usually faster than running around

[digital bolt]

Pipes are part of the balance of refinery, with increased hordes to make up for your ease of kiting

But when o2 comes into play and you cant stay on pipes for long, it really becomes an issue

[feral oasis]

It is, when there’s no O2 at the end of the pipes, to and from the central refinery.

[digital bolt]

We had to double o2 at each pump, one in bunker and one outside

[feral oasis]

In the end if you get the W, it’s all good

[digital bolt]

Because of course oppressors are in the spawn pool

[feral oasis]

They do be slamming ya out of the O2

[digital bolt]

Another factor is the welcoming party with praet swarms, double nexi/spitballer combo making it guaranteed for someone to get downed out of the gate

Which takes the scout out of nitra duty for revives and subsequently slowing down the o2 outpost construction

[feral oasis]

Oh yeah, the start for stage 2 was extreme

[digital bolt]

Well that is until all of us got our shit together and stopped dying out of the gate

Momentum is key on pe and refinery, with o2, paramount

[feral oasis]

Work fast to get out fast

[digital bolt]

Oh and in regards to slime rancher guy, we hardly had issues with stage 1, so if you're failing to get past that bump, best of luck with stage 2

[feral oasis]

I’ve already forgotten what stage 1 was

Was it an escort with mules?

[digital bolt]

Aye

[feral oasis]

I feel like with the EDD’s stage 1 is always the warmup stage with stage 2 being the hardest one and stage 3 being a wind down

[digital bolt]

Work fast to get out fast

on the contrary, we took our time with stage 2 overall, but had to scramble during pipe layout due to the limited horde windows

~45 mins?

[feral oasis]

Well like don’t speed run it fast doesn’t necessarily mean careless n sloppy. Just gotta plan n think on your toes. What’s most efficient and not as time consuming

[digital bolt]

Sure that's some solid advice, but just for this stage combination, I'd say I'd value consistency over efficiency

Chip damage from swarmer and asphyxiation ain't nothing to with

[feral oasis]

In my case, bosco was out of revives so I had to move fast or I would have failed if I wasn’t focusing 100% on what I was doing, repair and move and rinse and repeat until I could leave to stage 3

[digital bolt]

Solo mode is a mood in of itself just because bosco isn't designed to handle swarms by his own

Sometimes you are definitely put in a position where you have to brute force and burn through either ammo or revives to get anything done

[feral oasis]

It’s an 80-20 relationship with bosco

[digital bolt]

With teams on designated roles you kinda need the engy/driller alive to path pipes cause you ain't getting shit done otherwise

And I certainly ain't risking them being caught outside in a horde even if it means we're finishing half a pipeline every swarm

[junior fossil]

learning what bosco can do, and how to send him to do things while you are busy is key when soloing

example bosco cannot be damaged so he can repair pipes segment that has lots of bugs on them

he can also build the pipes while you are setting down a pipe elsewere

[azure spoke]

I wonder if you could mine the heartstone clear of the floor and cause it to drop.

mmm, maybe this should be in drg chat.

[vale falcon]

Nah it just floats

[warm notch]

God its duable

But it aint worth ot argrg

Finally managed to finish the EDD

[civic ledge]

@visual lake unfortunately gunner is my only promoted class

[visual lake]

@civic ledge if you don’t have a driller I think stage 2 will be close to impossible solo

I don’t think you can even route to the upper geyser without a plat or drill?

I guess you could pickaxe it but it’s low o2

That or maybe scout can do some wierd edge routing

But with gunner I think it’s close to impossible

But with gunner I think it’s close to impossible

[warm notch]

you need a driller or an engi

[civic ledge]

Thank you for the tips.

I was aware I was in for a nightmare give all the complaints about the stage

[glacial estuary]

Hello. How easy is it to solo the normal deep dive ? I keep searching for team but everyone seem to be soloing it

Also eh ... suggestions for perks combo ?

[wraith shard]

fairly easy. normal deep dives are on hazard 3 and 3.5

[civic ledge]

If you can do haz 4 missions, it should be a breeze as long as you don't waste supply drops. My perks are all for survivability, iron will is a good one, it can help you get an extra revive if you find red sugar or are near a supply drop. The rest are pretty much up to you.

[shadow ether]

Iron will, see you in hell, vampire.

[civic ledge]

You run see you in hell too? I didn’t want to say, I thought it was my niche pick

[shadow ether]

It's clutch. Clear space so you can save the iron will. And a melee bonus that makes vampire work even more

[drowsy spruce]

This week's edd has me worked on the second phase

The low oxygen refinery is no joke.

[wraith shard]

hi

[feral oasis]

It sucks. Even the start is intense

[kind bough]

sweet tooth, resupplier, and (for engi and scout at least) deep pockets are also very nice, if a bit overkill for standard DD

anything that helps you conserve resources and save time

deep pockets is kind of a wonky pick but a lot of nitra veins are just a tad too large to cram into your standard pouch

so you end up making multiple trips and that wastes time

[thorny geyser]

low o2 refinery requires you to manage supply drops further away from refinery itself

fighting around refinery or on it is not recommended, at all

[dawn sonnet]

Alright I just failed EDD for the 2nd time this week
Wth did they think when setting this up, this is a straight nightmare

Has anyone managed to finish it entirely?

[thorny geyser]

yeah

I feel like i had worst time as driller and engie

gunner and scout just had to put their killing pants on

[warm notch]

I've played through the whole thing as gunner and yeah, the gunner doesnt stop shooting

[crystal venture]

What perks for engi do you guys run for the current elite dive? I can't get passed the second level because of the huge amount of enemies. :(

[median siren]

See you in hell, berserker, vampire, Thorns and you choose the last

Big melee build tho

[delicate geode]

On Engi my typical set includes dash, field medic, resupplier, born ready, and unstoppable. I shuffle the last one around some, but use the rest almost always.

For EDD stage 2 camp in the drop pod as long as you can to clear the welcoming party and make sure you come in with enough nitra for a resup at each pump for O2. Beyond that its just a lot of killing.

Cleared it first run with a group from LFG on here, even that got pretty hairy (though we also had some network issues). Randoms would have been real tough. I was driller, definitely helpful with the map layout to get more efficient pipes.

[ashen lagoon]

whats the best driller loadout

[azure spoke]

yes

[odd comet]

In what scenario? There are builds that work better for certain things, but the game is pretty well balanced with regards to builds

[civic ledge]

😠 I want to see the second stage of the EDD, but I'm getting overwhelmed on the first stage

I'm trying to balance killing the webspitters before they blind me and preventing the horde from reaching the dozer during the 1st and 3rd sections of the heartstone

not doing so well

but I did manage to get all the way there with no downs and full drill health

so I have hope

[trail wren]

If you get a gun to do at least 60 damage you'll be able to one shot the Web Spitters without having to hit their weakpoint. I found that extremely helpful when soloing. The Bulldog revolver with one damage upgrade or the Engi's shotgun with it's Tier 4 damage upgrade are both good options. Subata with the Explosive Reload overclock also works pretty well, but it takes a little longer to kill and can let them get a shot off that you'll have to dodge.

[deft pine]

hey my team is doin the EDD stage 1 and we cant find the last leg anywhere

can anyone clue us in on where it could be?

we dont see it on the map

[civic ledge]

Probably buried under the heartstone, look for a white outline

[deft pine]

but the heartstone is two rooms away

[civic ledge]

Oh, that mule. Hmm, the white outline should still be visible somewhere

[deft pine]

that's really weird. We really don't see it at all

[civic ledge]

You have to stand next to the little guy and open the map

[deft pine]

yeah ik, no dice D:

[civic ledge]

If you didn’t know, though you probably do

Ah.

[deft pine]

we might've fed the wrong leg to the wrong mule and now we can't find the leg that wa supposed to be for the mule that was near the drill dozer when it needed to refuel

[civic ledge]

I would tell you, but I’ve never gotten that far. I’ve tried to beat the heartstone first, and failed every time

[deft pine]

it's ok, thanks for the help!

[civic ledge]

Look up a video maybe? USteppin did a solo and group run

[deft pine]

yeah his mules were not at all at the same place as ours

we ended up giving up and deciding to try again tomorrow

[civic ledge]

Sorry man, better luck next time

[idle turtle]

Failed EDD for like the 3rd or 4th time this week

that second stage is just.. brutal

[feral oasis]

Take heart and keep trying, if you’re no grinding around on the pipes might I suggest it? The speed will keep you away from the glyphids

[idle turtle]

I might be better off waiting for the next one if I can't group up with some people here from lfg

unfortunately I don't have a regular group to play with

[feral oasis]

Well, I can try to help tomorrow if you want

[idle turtle]

I might just work on getting these cores infused in the meantime yea

[timid smelt]

any french herE?

[wraith shard]

@timid smelt yes

[timid smelt]

on cherche qlq'un pour tester une map insecte en or avec mobs infini

ca te tente?

[wraith shard]

jui pas encore tant initié au jeu que ça genre là j'ai fait promouvoir etc mais sans plus quoi xd j'aimerais bien 🙂

[timid smelt]

@wraith shard tu seras la en fin d'aprem ?

[wraith shard]

jui dispo oui

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[trim prawn]

can't find the last leg in the regular DD, anyone know where it might be?

[civic ledge]

Does anyone want to help me tackle the EDD later today? I can only play gunner, btw

[clever shadow]

@civic ledge

[civic ledge]

Wassup?

So wahya, myself, and possibly uncle?

Any build you’d like me to run wahya?

[solemn pecan]

I'm sick of failing stage 2 EDD, anyone wanna try with me?

[mild salmon]

when does the new DD go up

[sudden mortar]

tomorrow

in like 16 hours?

[mild salmon]

epic

thx

[kind bough]

bluh, I still need to clear stage 2

but all my fellow dorflets are busy playing destiny/runescape

feelsbad

[jovial turret]

So how do you clear stage 2 of elite?

That shit's hard :c

[spiral cypress]

what was stage 2 again? Cleared it day 1 so I dont remember. might be able to give advice.

Was it the low o2 refining?

[kind bough]

that's the one

the terrain is kind of ugly and low o2 is annoying as usual

there's a lot of tight spaces so you can get mobbed pretty easily if you make a mistake

not that I've cleared it but considering my last nearly-successful attempt was stolen by iron will bugging out...lol

[spiral cypress]

that was pain. Got downed like 20 times on the EDD but got it first try. A good driller/engi helps a lot. Tight spaces means engi mines are death itself. Stay together during repair and use supply pods along the pipes for o2

also blowthrough is great on scout in this one. Enemies tend to line up nicely.

[kind bough]

not having a scout in my 2-mans (in general) is causing me intense suffering

having half the team be scout isn't great for wave clear...but without one, webspitters are bastards

I need my friends to not play runescape

or get the webspitters to start playing runescape

[spiral cypress]

yea, finding a good scout is hard

been trying to play him myself recently

I'm not good as it turns out

[kind bough]

as you can probably tell by my name color scout is my baby

but, it's hard to run him in EDD without a full stack

or solo

but I don't think attempting solo drilldozer with scout is within my skills at the moment

[spiral cypress]

I play pretty much all classes equally but I'm just a lot better with some. Drilldozer solo is fun with Gunner. Let Bosco mine and hold down the trigger for 20 minutes straight.

[visual lake]

i actually brought jarate and it worked semi well on EDD2 as a cheapo lure as scout

we got a prae wave and it was quite dicey at one point with low O2 when 4 oppressors showed up

[wraith shard]

Is jarate the pheromone canister

[sudden pendant]

That EDD was a real stinker

scout came in clutch to bring us home

[feral oasis]

A W is a W, no matter how close or easy

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[civic ledge]

Any last minute Elite deep divers?

[kind bough]

@civic ledge still lookin'?

[civic ledge]

I don’t know @kind bough

I’m supposed to be playing with a friend, but it seems like they’re not responding

[sacred silo]

Someone for a DDE try?

[copper oasis]

Did they nerf carpet bomber?

[fringe kettle]

yes and no, a while ago part of its damage was transferred to the base weapon. If you use CB then you wouldn't have noticed a difference. It hasn't been touched in a while

[copper oasis]

Stage 2 of the EDD kinda sucks. I am a little out of practice and my buddies and I are getting absolutely rolled

[jade sorrel]

the EDD was pretty fun, just play it slow at first to survive the initial wave of spitballers and swarms and then you've got it easy, the low o2 refinery is easier if you only put resupply pods near the extractors

try and fight around the refinery and only venture out for ammo/repair pipes

when bulks attack, take a deep breathe

[warm ivy]

Have never done deep dive, ever

What is it about?

[jade sorrel]

3 missions back to back, ammo/health/nitra carries over

regular deep dive is roughly haz 3
elite is roughly haz 4-5.5

[warm ivy]

so cool

[jade sorrel]

each mission is random, but contains 2 primary objectives [collect eggs, repair mules]

well, it random in that they're different to eachh other, but in reality all 3 are set

so if you redo a deep dive the objectives for that week don't change

also, each stage out of the 3 rewards you a matrix core [1st is blank, 2nd is weapon i think then 3rd is cosmetic]

you'll never find secondary objectives like gunk seeds or fester fleas

and there's no events like kursite grinder or bet-c

once a deep dive starts no-one can join, so no joing just as it's about to finish and grabbing 10k xp

you have to E A R N your matrix cores

if you fail you have to start from stage 1 again

[warm ivy]

so, can you be revived?

[jade sorrel]

oh yeah

you WILL die

[warm ivy]

I know

[jade sorrel]

for instance, this weeks EDD had a low oxygen modifier on the refinery mission for the 2nd stage, it's been messing a lot of people up

[warm ivy]

Cant wait to die

Oooh, lo O2

I hate this

Thanks for explaining

[plush ravine]

only 5 hours left to this EDD btw

reset after 5 hours

[feral oasis]

Yesssssss

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Mammoth Rage
Stage 1: 7 Aquarq + 1 Dreadnought | No Mutators!
Stage 2: Protect The Drilldozer + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Parasites

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Dark Nightmare
Stage 1: 10 Aquarq + 📡 1 Black Box | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 6 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Critical Weakness
Stage 3: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 1 Dreadnought | Cave Leech Cluster

[warped citrus]

pls no mactera plague edd

[buoyant drum]

anyone trying to do the edd?

[quiet mortar]

Well since they just reset, I'm sure there are a good few teams looking for more lol

[warm notch]

I do not like the codename of the EDD

[quiet mortar]

What's wrong? XD

There's nothing wrong with Dark Nightmare XD

[kind bough]

oh baby, shield disruption on radioactive zone

that's going to be a bugger

Oh god, Reddit says the third stage is refinery/elimination with cave leech cluster

fuuuuuck

[quiet mortar]

They do?

[warm notch]

the second stage is nice at least

this time

Oh boy the 3rd stage sounds like a sore, at least it aint low O2

[gleaming tinsel]

The entirety if the EDD looks fine to me. It's the refinery mission that has me somewhat worried. The tight spaces the smaller Refinery missions can be a team whipper IMO

[median siren]

2nd stage lethal ennemies for DD😂

During Drilldozer

[gleaming tinsel]

Makes it Haz 4 levels of damage. Still ez

[proven wigeon]

finally no mactera swarm 😄

[plush ravine]

someone start the dread in stage 3 EDD without telling

and swarm strike us in the butt at the same time

damn it

People really need to learn how to communicate and cooperate

[plush ravine]

This remains me why I picked driller when I return to this game weeks ago

Gotta hard carry my team

RNGesus treated me pretty good this week, good enough to let me forget randoms can be stupid

And I actually just picked scout to support people in EDD

nope, never again

[mortal thorn]

https://i.gyazo.com/2850d970efade79fd8682e6e70d900e4.jpg

This week's EDD was pretty easy

Im really surprised

[gleaming tinsel]

I haven't done em yet and I knew that XD . But glad to see peps are having a chill time

[mortal thorn]

I mean, there was a lot of detonators in the EDD, and the radioactive zone is annoying as hell, but if we compare this week's EDD with the previous week's EDD, this one is much easier lol Havent tried to do it solo yet tho

[sudden pendant]

im hoping it is easier than last week. jeez that one was tough

[gleaming tinsel]

The refinery in last weeks EDD was nightmarish. Thise tight spaces scare me

[plush ravine]

It is easier than last week

This 3rd stage refinery is actually easier than the one last week, which is only in 2nd stage

[vapid monolith]

Escorts suck for edds

[gleaming tinsel]

I have found with haz 5 low complexity Refinery maps are harder than you'd assume. The cave isn't as open and there us a greater opening for the bugs to mulch you

[vapid monolith]

Min 25 minutes for that stage

[sudden mortar]

engis throwing proximity mine inside the activation field for the black box in EDD

literally couldnt move in there

[vapid monolith]

Tbf the grenade indicator is messed up for the prox mines

[sudden mortar]

between the radiation from praets dying and the prox mines I couldn't move inside the circle

[gleaming tinsel]

@plush ravine I do understand the pain if playing with randoms on EDD. Were you guys in a Pod when you went in?

[plush ravine]

Just a total random team I suppose

We actually did pretty fine in the first and second stage

But someone suddenly decided to suicide and start the dread fight without calling everyone

I guess it's the gunner

I was mining nitra, engi was building pipes

the driller didn't even finish building the flat area for dread fight

and the dread just spawned, following by a swarm alarm 3 seconds later

That was a brutal end

[gleaming tinsel]

As I run. NEVER do random EDD without Voice. It can be suicidal. Unless your in for the challenge or are 100%capable of carrying how you are. That's been my experience.

As a gunner main I Vow to carry a mission forward in any way I can. Team lively hood and skill are second to me

Tho especially for EDDs it does put a much higher strain on you to play in heated situations

[wraith shard]

new deep dives todaY?

[gleaming tinsel]

Yup

[wintry geode]

finally got BoM

weeeee!

[wraith shard]

nice

[wintry geode]

yep DD was like ezpz

[wraith shard]

is anyone down to do either of those deep dives?

[wintry geode]

and EDD, what a hell

[indigo jungle]

deep dives aren't balanced because modifiers aren't

critical weakness = free stage

and leech cluster is the weakest red modifier

[gleaming tinsel]

IMO parasites seems the most useless red one. I have had odd encounters in all mission types were they just Die the second they touch you, dealing no damage, other times they do damage you. Best they are for is eating a non-peircing bullet. ( I dont have THORNS equipped btw)

Leeches tend to kill me more in high intensity situations when the bugs can force you into an unexplored part of the room, aka a leech

[wraith shard]

guys who wants to join me deep diving>

[quiet wyvern]

@quiet mortar preciate the update on the dives lad

now we can see what's Really going on

[quiet mortar]

np! Always happy to do it! ^^

[quiet wyvern]

this week is gonna be interesting, with a refining on the last stage, should be fine after the Dread is gone first

[solemn shale]

As I run. NEVER do random EDD without Voice. It can be suicidal. Unless your in for the challenge or are 100%capable of carrying how you are. That's been my experience.
@gleaming tinsel u mean like that

ahh

cant post sses here

[gleaming tinsel]

@solemn shale what you asking? I do not understand.

[solemn shale]

i wanted to post a screenshot but now thats just irrevelant since i cant here

basically teammates 40 deaths in total on the last edd lol

managed to win anyway

it kinda was suicidal

[gleaming tinsel]

I live for those "carrying the crap outta game" games. There fun as hell!!!

Aside from solo Haz 5 and EDDs. Nothing much else can feed those moments. Maybe the occasional Haz 4 mission.

[spiral cypress]

is it just me or are this weeks dives much easier? Got 4x bulks on the last EDD stage and still managed cause we had like 800 Nitra at that point. And the standart one was just a joke.

[sudden mortar]

yeah pretty chill

[spiral cypress]

shame I dont have the time to hunt for machine events these days

really building up the blank core backlog

[gleaming tinsel]

I'm about to hit that point of banking them up. I miss the days of farming for them 98 OC weapon cores

[warped citrus]

I jusr got my last weapon core

[half barn]

what the hell, we had many meneces this week

constant menece for both dives

[sudden mortar]

yeah

[jade sorrel]

new modifier: menace swarm

[sudden mortar]

Fuck that

Felt like I heard the distant menace groans all 3 DD stages and all 3 EDD stages

[feral oasis]

Gotta keep us on our toes with all those menaces

[visual lake]

Menace swarm means scout just needs to bring stunning charged shots

I would say praetorian army would be a nice modifier

All praes and oppressors

[jade sorrel]

Q'ronar legion

Q'ronar version of mactera swarm

[vale falcon]

mactera beetle guard

[visual lake]

Korlok cluster

Same as cave leech but with korlok instead

[feral oasis]

Just finished the deep dives

[iron solstice]

Gonna give the dives a try soon, anything to watch out for?

[feral oasis]

The only one I struggled with was the 1st stage of the EDD, the black box with shield disruptions forces you into a tiny little circle without much movement

[livid jay]

with a driller you can mostly fix that problem

[hazy comet]

I found the EDD this week pretty easy even though I got about 5 detonators on the last stage

First stage is free, you can rush the objectives really fast. Second stage is crit weakness, also free. Third stage takes a lot of time but at this point I had over 600 nitra with 4 dwarves. Cave leeches wasnt hard at all

[golden crystal]

for me, i didn't even get many cave leeches, there was i think 3 or 4 and thats it, i've gotten more cave leeches in a normal mission without the modifier, i was able to solo it with no issues, the only stage that gave me a bit of issues is the first one cause scout main doing a black box on his own with shield disruption.

[feral oasis]

They seemed to have forgotten the cave leeches for the cave leech cluster

Not that it matters anymore since the 1st stage is arguably to hardest for this weeks EDD

[hazy comet]

PE is all about speed. My team of randoms did it with only 1 resupply and swarm.

[feral oasis]

My team consists of bosco, bosco, and bosco

[mortal thorn]

PE with bosco was pretty easy a gunner, but the refinery...

I also killed only 2 leeches

Wtf

During the third stage I mean

[feral oasis]

There were no leeches

Or at least not as many

[hazy comet]

i only saw 2. my team possibly could have killed more

[crude finch]

What the unholy hoxxes is up with the deep dive this week?! The numbers are absolutely ridiculous!

[feral oasis]

What numbers?

[gloomy herald]

to whoever just got kicked out of the edd after stage 3 im so sorry

power went out 😦

[crude finch]

The amount of glyphids during the drill and black box thing. It's extremely difficult not Getting absolutely wrecked.

[vapid monolith]

I’ll take it that you didn’t play the edd a few weeks back on last stage magma core shield disruption escort

[sturdy berry]

I thought week's deep dive was relatively easy compared to the last few weeks

Mini-gun gunners are dead weight though, imo

Not that anyone asked, just my personal experience running with randoms this week

[feral atlas]

This was honestly probably the easiest EDD I've seen in half a year.

[vestal wedge]

Is it just me or are there the equivalent of a small mechanized battalion of Menaces each phase on EDD?

[feral atlas]

Simple stage 2, free win stage 2, weakass modifier on stage 3

[vestal wedge]

It was your average EDD, yeah, but I couldn't help but constantly waste a full clip of M1000 every minute trying to get the Menace above

[feral atlas]

this is like way below average

honestly, any EDD with crit weakness is probably below average

[vestal wedge]

doesn't much matter to me I guess since I still die to fall damage every nought point 3 seconds

I'm the scout that never should have gotten out of basic

[vapid monolith]

Once you have special powder it’s all good

[wintry geode]

or maybe use that tier3 mod on fall damage reduction

I used to go 3, faster cool down with me being s*** at it means i die

*i died faster.

[plush wind]

stage 1 of edd was bad with shield disruption and a bunch of the radioactive crystals lol

[gleaming tinsel]

Love doing DDs with the peps of DRG <3 you guys fun to play with.

[plush ravine]

I failed my EDD yesterday because someone in my team suddenly decided to suicide(spawn dread without telling right before a swarm), so I was trying to finish it today

Waited for like 15mins with an engi, nobody comes in tho idk why

Then I duo the whole EDD with him, as a driller

and man, that's very chill

I know what Im doing, he knows what he's doing

it literally makes the EDD feels like hazard 3

And this time I am using my main, I basically connect every pathway with my tunnels

Making every single places accessible with only foot

Feels satisfied

[wintry geode]

This week's EDD is pretty good

(pretty easy, and I got very great teammates in pub

thanks for covering mah ass if you happened to be there

[gleaming tinsel]

@plush ravine want help with EDD?

[halcyon pine]

Died on the last section of the EDD.

Swarm spawned the second we started the Dreadnought fight

I am displeased with the current state of events

I’ll beat one someday

Right now I need therapeutic food

[feral oasis]

I had a swarm spawn the minute the dreadnought went down I didn’t like being in that little cave

[vast valve]

this week's edd was a huge relief compared to last week's nightmarish stage 2

tbh the hardest part of this edd was stage 1, we had so much nitra on stage 3 we just summoned refills with impunity

we probably had 9 ammo pods around the refinery

[feral oasis]

As one should, this weeks EDD was def easier than last weeks

[halcyon pine]

I never got past stage 2 of an EDD before (I never lasted more than a minute on stage 2) so there is truth to that

[woven sinew]

What are the modifiers this time around for both DDs?

nvm, checked pins

[thorny geyser]

Great fun with EDD

twas pretty easy

[wraith shard]

playing the EDD and my teammates spawn the dread with a prat swarm

[feral oasis]

Did you win?

[silk pebble]

I just did the EDD

first one is the hardest.

Take my advice go right for the uplink and bunker it in the first stage. no bulks will ruin your day.

[wraith shard]

no

we failed

[burnt sandal]

ew, bunker

[silk pebble]

i know it sounds and feels dirty

but that place where the uplink is is insane

30 web spitters will roll up on you. and you will have no cover.

its a fish bowl with ledges on 2 sides

and a low ceiling

[vague elbow]

So the wave spawns are still randomized, you could get a handful of spitters and a dozen bulks instead

[silk pebble]

in 4 tries i saw no bulks on that mission

3 bulks in the last

[vague elbow]

Lucky, I keep finding them at the worst possible times

[thorny geyser]

We got it done in the open

greenbeard gunner kept his cool and used shields sensibly

[azure spoke]

we bunkered on first stage and third stage. it was nice for the uplink, and it was handy to have a fall back on the third stage. We didn't stay in there, but it was good for occassionally funneling enemies to clear out smaller swarms

we had two bulks on the third stage, and you can't really stay in a bunker on refinery anyway, nor on the dread, but it was nice to have it for a killzone

[silk plover]

Didn't do any bunkers for EDD, just straight up surviving out in the open. Detonator only appeared once on stage 3.

[gleaming cave]

Say how's the EDD this week? The second stage isn't cursed again, is it?

[silk plover]

Second stage is probably the most normal one out of the three.

[azure spoke]

I don't know about anyone else, but the first andsecond stages were pretty smooth sailing for my team this week. third stage had it's rough moments, like the preatorian swarm and the mactera swarm our first run through

second run through was much more normal, if a bit hectic at times. The Dreadnaught was much easier the second go-round as well. Ah yeah, the two spitmballers were a hassle first run because we weren't quite prepared for them

[distant trail]

I hate Elite Deep Dive solo. It just ... POINTY Eared leaf lover mission control always want the "TRANG" zone missions for annoy us!

[night arch]

Mine and my friend's game just crashed as soon as stage 3 loaded

[brittle fractal]

F

[pale prawn]

Can anyone tell my why most of the Deep Dive servers are greyed out?
There is one says Scout needed, there is an empty slot, so why can't I join? (as a scout)

[fringe kettle]

Can’t join in progress deep dives, only lobbies.

[pale prawn]

Ah okay, didn't know it meant that

[indigo jungle]

team insists on bunkering

makes a hole with black box

sad to see the cheese hasn't been addressed

[kind bough]

wew, dives were easy this week

that black box was pretty nasty though and bulks wouldn't fuck off during refinery

and i'm very glad I played driller on EDD because we got 2 mactera swarms back to back

but it was all worth it because now I have carpet bomber

[feral oasis]

The black box gave me the most trouble out of everything for this EDD

[vast valve]

yeah, that was the hardest part

the dread being popped during a swarm wasnt exactly easy though

[frank cosmos]

This may be a dumb question - my wife and I are new DRG players and we've been enjoying playing co-op with myself as engineer and her as gunner. We're still working through the initial 10 missions and about level 6 or 7. I read about how eventually we can unlock new alternative weapons. How are the alt weapons for engineer and gunner?

[fringe kettle]

They'll change your playstyle a bit while sticking to the theme of the class. I'm confident enough saying that all weapons are well balanced to each other (overclocks are a different story, but still fairly well balanced).

[azure spoke]

best advice it to try them out, practice, and see which works best for you. You can change your loadout any time you want, and it's nto expensive to do so, so explore the options and discover your preffered playstyle

[undone hatch]

wiped on stage 2 of the DD doing it solo, very easy up until the last stage of the boss fight, it gets to a point where you cant outheal the damage the drill is taking

i'm guessing you have to use bosco to take out the laser things as you sit there repairing it

[azure spoke]

want a teammate to run it with you?

[undone hatch]

yeah i think escort in general is easier with multiple people, regardless of hazard level

because the haz level on a regular dd isn't very high but you have to do lots of things at once

[azure spoke]

ye, seems like it

[indigo saddle]

whats a good engineer build

[azure spoke]

that's probably a better question for the drg chat room than for this one

[ornate mortar]

I just finished an hour and a half elite deep dive, iron will field medic saved us

[drowsy spruce]

is it just me or did the regular deep dive feel harder than the Elite Deep Dive for this week?

The first phase of EDD was difficult but bearable with Vampire build and elemenal res, but DD had annoying escort mission

[wraith shard]

i absolutely HATED this weeks EDD

like dragging feet through glass the whole time lmao

[gleaming cave]

This week’s EDD was pretty comfy. Then again, the Scout and Driller were off on their own handling themselves, so they probably drew a lot of heat away.

Good team, though, reliable.

[feral oasis]

Was it that bad hellion?

[wraith shard]

i had a p bad time

we won, but it sucked the whole time lol

[feral oasis]

Well, at least you won.
Could have been worse but you held fast and overcame it

[azure spoke]

I didn't find the EDD this week to be all that bad. We stuck together, set up before doing eggs, and generally worked toward the same goals. Plus everyone understood their jobs well enough and we communicated well.

I think that makes a huge difference. I felt last week's EDD was a bit rougher but manageable, and the previous week was the hardest of the three, at least for me

But two weeks ago's EDD, I didn't get good communication with the team, for one thing

[severe gazelle]

if anyone is available i would need some help on a deep dive third stage

[wraith shard]

Looking for someone to do the EDD with (na scout)

[cold smelt]

I too look for someone to do the EDD with (na gunner or engineer)

[wraith shard]

Just for reference, how long are deep dive mission usually? i haven't promoted a character yet but i'm curious. I usually take 20-30 minutes for a standard mission

[vale falcon]

From 30 to 1h

Since there is only primary objectives, and no side things, the missions will be done way faster than usual

[wraith shard]

ok thanks, i can't wait to try it

[dusty lagoon]

I've tried to be faster but most of the time I finish at the 50 minute mark or later most deep dives

[lilac copper]

is there mactera swarm?

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[feral oasis]

I dont think so no

There is not

[gleaming cave]

Nah. Just normal Mactera iirc

[vapid monolith]

With the new mission types, edds and dds take at least 45 mins

[ornate mortar]

Im so mad, I did my deep dive in 45:00, EXACTLY 45:00, so I didn't get the achievement for completing it in UNDER 45 minutes

[empty topaz]

Anybody gotten through EDD stage 3 thus week?

Kicked my teeth in twice so far

[azure spoke]

got it done on the second attempt

hardest part was teh dread, Got lucky a few times where I thought it was gonna kill me but either didn't attack, or it's attack missed

best to go in full health and ammo and acting as a team, else any weaknesses can drain your group pretty quick

second difficulty was getting the pipeline up to the highest well, but a few engie platforms helped that out.

and of course, getting rid of the welcoming committee is a task in itself. try not to get separated and try not to let anyone fall off the ledges. that was probably what hurt us the most aside from the dread

[viscid narwhal]

man betc almost whopped my cheeks on EDD Stage 2

[azure spoke]

there was a BET-C on EDD? ouch

[viscid narwhal]

don't ask me how but somehow managed to stuck betc to a point inside narrow driller cave with holes that it wasn't able to hit me with the rockets

time to try stage 3 😂 gonna die within 5 mins for sure

[azure spoke]

hang in there and work together to clearthe welcoming commitiee. after that justregroup for waves

[viscid narwhal]

I am trying to solo this 😄

got dreadnought part done but this refinery is scaring the living hell out of me

[delicate dagger]

this EDD was easy with simple team comm

the only hard part was the 1st and 3rd stages

[viscid narwhal]

I was about 31-38 mins in after stage 2... if I get sub 50 I'm gonna party 😂 assuming I won't get nuked

[delicate dagger]

if you are soloing I would build the pipes, kill the dread and then start the refinery

the pipes are honestly your lifeline so you can ride away from an overwhelming swarm

[viscid narwhal]

i did it the other way around 😄

oh wait

I killed dread and then started building pipes 😄

yeet! 55:06 solo EDD

god I hate refinery. specially those radiation thingies

[rose patio]

Was just doing dep dive and was fine then got disconnected right at the end and cant rejoin but I can try to reconnect when the host force leaves a group on a public non deep dive mission....

[burnt sandal]

You can't join during a deep dive

sadly

[delicate geode]

I've been able to rejoin deep dives after a disconnect, but host had to specifically send invite last time I did it

[paper meteor]

holy hell, my good deed of the day carrying lvl 50, 40 and 15 through the dd

stark reminder why playing with greenbeards can be frustrating

it took so freaking long to get the eggs on the last one

and then host closes the game without even a gg

cool

[wanton aurora]

Thinkin about doing non-elite deep dive but not sure. for some reason they make me nervous

[warm notch]

just do it give it a try first time is always like that

[wintry geode]

just do a pub and 90% of the time you will have 3 god tier teammates willing to help and will stand with you

especially when normal DD was just like another haz 3, it goes really quick

[subtle tusk]

Yeah you’re right I’ve come across more decent teammates than bad ones.

[unique smelt]

Hey, is there any good way to look up the EDD setup? Usually I go in 'blind' or with some bits i pick up here but some preknowledge might be nice

[vale falcon]

EDD setup?

[fringe kettle]

pinned messages

[unique smelt]

ah thx

[ancient cove]

Is a bug with the second stage of deep dive that makes the drilldozer ragdoll out? Or more likely something with my host? I didnt wanna go through again if its just gonna bug out

[wraith shard]

yo im gettign some major studder in game when i play, anyone know why or if theres a fix?

i get 60 fps on high settings and i even turned them all the way down and i still get studders here and there and it really messes up the game

[wanton aurora]

@wintry geode all of the lobbies i've seen have said "+100 only"

@wraith shard are you using the experimental DX12 thing? If that got turned on by accident there could be issues, since it's experimental

[hazy comet]

@wanton aurora use #lfg-steam . ingame browser is filled with leaf lovers

[rare bridge]

why can trailers go thru the gunners shield? me and a friend lost the last stage during the black box because a trawler grabed me thru the shield and he got downed and I couldn't get back

[vale falcon]

because they r fast boys

anything fast and big enough can penetrate it

[echo minnow]

I tried soloing edd after finishing dd solo easily. Man that's a huge step up. Never ending bugs...

[azure spoke]

DD is haz 3 to 3.5, EDD is haz 5 to 5.5

quite a step up

[viral tulip]

Elite is 4.5/5/5.5

Point still stands though

[manic pewter]

I know they say that the developers have stated that they have an exclusive launch deal with Microsoft and once it ends they will think of other consoles

But Microsoft has had exclusivity for almost 3 years now , not trying to seem impatient or anything but I seriously want the game on PS4 as this game is a beautiful masterpiece and no one can disagree

And I am almost 100% sure that hundreds of others want this game too on PS4

[fringe kettle]

I don't know about the possibility of a ps4 port. I do know a switch port is out of the question due to hardware limitations. You may have better luck asking them during one of their livestreams.

[manic pewter]

Ok Thanks For Advice There.is a possibility of a PS4 port as it has the necessary components

Though Nintendo Switch doesn't like you said

[mortal thorn]

I doubt they will release the game on one of the past gen consoles, but the possibility of DRG coming to PS5 is pretty good

[kind bough]

god I cannot wait for new deep dives

both my friend and I got Carpet Bomber this week so there's about to be some double gunner memery

[ornate mortar]

Do cosmetic items ever spawn on deep dives, like helmets, cargo crates, or machine events?

[mint zodiac]

Nope

[vague elbow]

Just primary, other primary, nitra, and gold

[vast valve]

(periodically a hoarder)

[vague elbow]

Rare creature spawns still happen, yes

If you can nab the hoarder, great, but it's not worth risking the mission over

[leaden crown]

new to the game what do union chapters do?

[vale falcon]

gives minerals onces union goals are completed

and gives a cool role here

[obsidian gorge]

@leaden crown each chapter gets a task, which is shared , depending on the % your group complete, at the end of the job period you can claim credits and minerals

[visual lake]

if you are super unlucky you get a korlok

on an EDD

which is basically a huge ammo sink

@paper meteor just carried 2x lvl 20 ishes through the EDD at least they were nice and listened... we did alot better than i expected esp since we got an extra dread wave on EDD3

[jade sorrel]

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[wraith shard]

what are the modifiers for the elite deep dives?

need to get it done before the new ones out

[wintry geode]

look for pinned message

[vale falcon]

Check the pin messages here yeah

It’s a link to an allways updated chart

[kind bough]

there's always a stickied post on /r/deeprockgalactic as well, if you're on a device that gets crabby about google spreadsheets

[lusty flare]

EDD with any uplinks are physically fucking impossible on scout

Solo that is

[kind bough]

there are strats

they are not pretty

A week or two ago I did that godawful mactera plague salvage solo using the patent-pending "I have more than my body weight in cryo grenades" method

I blew like 3 resupplies just on chucking nonstop cryo and tanking the damage

So much goo I couldn't even see

Solo scout drilldozer on EDD I have no idea how you're supposed to swing that

The ommoran rocks demand drilldozer blood

I know it's been done but I don't think I'm slamming enough coffee to play on that level lol

[warm notch]

How could scout even keep up solo with everything

Spitters, menaces, grunts, rocks, lasers, repairs

I barely solod an escort as scout on Haz4

[kind bough]

I got as far as the rocks

Maybe pre-buff I could have done it

but now there's too many bugs along with the rocks

it's just too much

but thems the breaks

[neat lantern]

Any reason for doing them solo rather than letting people join you? Ive been delighted with how easy it is to find fellow miners when my friends aren't around

[lusty flare]

@neat lantern on wednesdays there are times when no one is doing deep dives

Also, damnit. Just failed on stage 3 of the edd and our driller was not having any of it despite me outfragging him as scout

[median siren]

I hate when people ask me so stupidly how I have less ammo than them as scout

« Stop wasting ammo »

But in the end, I just outfragged our gunner with autoccanon

😂

I had like 250 kills on a haz 3 400 morkite mission

Our gunner had 220

[warm notch]

i wouldnt look at the numbers too seriously

doesnt take everything into account

[kind bough]

@neat lantern I don't like playing with randos for tryhard content, nowhere is toxicity more likely

literally my first EDD I ever hosted I got a guy who was a real jerkface that I had to kick

[visual lake]

@kind bough you have bosco

[kind bough]

bosco is the most toxic player of all

but he can't speak, so we will never know

at least he can carry things, since his damage output against bugs is laughable

[visual lake]

He’s amazing vs swarmers and small bugs.

You can semi AFK with him and gold bugs near a bunch of breeders

And come back to 20k gold

[neat lantern]

@kind bough That sucks. I hate toxicity. Ive had very few instances of it in DRG so far, but there are always jerks in any game.

[median siren]

I don’t really understand

Drg has an amazing community but when I play w randoms, they are always toxic

[hoary vessel]

i've only met one toxic player tbh

the community is unnaturally nice

[kind bough]

i've only met like 2 or 3 jerks in ~150 hours, which is a pretty good going rate

[hoary vessel]

that's an insanely good going rate lol

[kind bough]

part of it is just stage fright too, lol

[hoary vessel]

try playing cod, league, tekken, r6 siege. this game has a fantastic community

[kind bough]

I feel much more guilty about friendly fire, calling resupplies, making mistakes when it's people I don't know

Like when it's randos, driller EDD is out of the question

How am I supposed to play driller if I can't friendly fire

[hoary vessel]

that's partially cuz of the amount of teamwork the game needs in higher difficulties. If u try to grief ur purposely gonna lose as well there's no real upside to trolling

friendly fire doesnt really matter unless ur just chucking c4's point blank

ur never really gonna down someone

[median siren]

When I plays w randoms, it’s usually a group of toxics or game pass starters

Sometimes I get kick because I “friendly fire”

I played driller and built a bunker and put a C4 at the door

[drowsy spruce]

Lol

What

[median siren]

Oppressor was there and I blew it up but they got killed

[drowsy spruce]

Bunkers are non meta

[median siren]

My teammates

Depends on the weapons

[hoary vessel]

u get kicked for friendly fire lol? how is that possible

[kind bough]

look, driller has one job and that's to collect blood for the blood god

[drowsy spruce]

Infact very ineffective vs just setting craters around defend points

[kind bough]

but please stop throwing C4s at oppressors i beg you

[hoary vessel]

i will always do that

[median siren]

There was a lot of bugs w it

I got like 40 kills with 1 C4

20 or 30

[drowsy spruce]

Just pick up friendly fire

[kind bough]

The one saving grace of this update is that oppressors seem to be much more common than they used to be

The driller does not have enough C4 to get all of them

...Not yet.

[median siren]

C4 BUFF INCOMING

[drowsy spruce]

If you don't care about hurting teammates and stop throwing it like frag grenade

[median siren]

It was at the door the whole time

[drowsy spruce]

Meh

[median siren]

I blew it up when there were a lot of ennemies

[drowsy spruce]

Bunkers are overrated

[median siren]

Nah

[hoary vessel]

it takes 1 enemy to ruin it

[median siren]

It all depends on your weapons and your teams weapons

[hoary vessel]

kinda boring too

[drowsy spruce]

Let's assume no dependency

Standalone without depends factor

It's mediocre st best

[median siren]

I do bunkers when I’m at a bad spot to defend

And we were between like 30 fire geysers

Couldn’t get anywhere else

[drowsy spruce]

U can drill them out

And use c4 to explode then

[median siren]

Why use C4s for geysers?!?!

[drowsy spruce]

So they go away

[median siren]

Just use 10 drill ammo

Easier and cheaper than C4s

[drowsy spruce]

Nah fam, u want space , no?

[median siren]

I just wanna live

[drowsy spruce]

If that's it, don't bunker

[hazy comet]

bunkering is a bad strategy long term. you waste a lot of time making it and leaving it, and waiting for enemies to slowly crawl into the tunnel

[drowsy spruce]

You are more likely to live in open space than bunker's

[hazy comet]

yes ^

[median siren]

It was mactera plague...

[drowsy spruce]

Still better outside

[kind bough]

clarifying that might have helped

[median siren]

Nah

[hazy comet]

1 cryo gnade kills the entire swarm

[drowsy spruce]

Yup

Cryo all the way

Can't freeze them if you are in bunker

[hazy comet]

and if needs be, gunner has shields. you can kill 2 swarms in 1 shield duration

[drowsy spruce]

Plus detonator will wreck you

[median siren]

But I had a lvl 5 scout that kicked me for *friendly fire he said before kicking

[kind bough]

bulks don't spawn on mactera plague last I checked

bunkering in general is kind of dumb but I object to pooh-poohing it for macteras

especially when cryo grenades are a pretty damn pricey way to deal with macteras

[hazy comet]

imo people have issues with mactera swarms because they fall behind on DPS.

if you kill them before they can charge up an attack you win easily.

the problem is when people fail to see them in time and they get attacks off

there are so many ways to kill them because they bunch up as they arrive.

if you miss that moment you will die fast

[median siren]

I was the only one higher than lvl 5

They probably didn’t even know what were mactera

[drowsy spruce]

Bunkering with greenbeards makes even less sense

[median siren]

Nah

They just shot in one hole and it worked

But they went in front of me when I had cryo cannon

That was a no no

[hazy comet]

bunkering with greenbeards = death in most cases. DPS wont be high enough

[drowsy spruce]

...anyway, lemme repeat, bunker with greenbeards is deathtrap

[median siren]

Guess what...

We came out alive

[drowsy spruce]

Still a death trap

No one in their right mind bunkers. Atleast most diamond+ ranked drillers don't do it

I have seen gold ranks still doing it

[hazy comet]

super common when it wasnt punished lol. there is a reason nobody does it anymore. just sayin

[drowsy spruce]

Haz4+ bunkering, probably worst thing I ever tried In my career climbing the corporate ladder

[neat lantern]

Lol, Funnily enough, just had a digger try to get us to bunker when fighting a dreadnought. Needless to say he died immediately and had to wait for us to kill the dreadnought before we could revive him in his hole

[feral oasis]

dreadnought > bunker

[visual lake]

I dragged a team of green beards through this weeks EDD by bunkering the EDD1 BB

Just cus positioning was so terrible

Bunker wouldn’t have been any worse

At least you don’t have rad praes spawning directly ontop of you

[azure spoke]

I don't mind bunkers in exceptional cases. Especially on EDDs where a bulk is known not to spawn. Bunkering used to be super effective to the point people were complaining that it made the game boring. Now, it's a little riskier due to tunneling enemies and potential in-bunker spawns. It still has it's uses though.

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[civic ledge]

Gah!

Driller was not the right pick

Stupid, goddamn menaces. 3 on the heart stone

First loss on the regular deep dive and I’m pissed

[azure spoke]

rough,

mebbe gunner then?

[civic ledge]

That’s the plan

I was hoping to use one of my newly promoted classes since I’ve only ever run gunner on any deep dive

[hazy comet]

gunner or engi is the best for soloing deep dives imo

[azure spoke]

ah yeah, that's fair. With the escort mission it's a lot harder to use just any class, at eleast solo

Isolo'd last weeks DD, ifI remember.

I an't remember if I was gunner or driller though

Or ... engineer? Maybe?

[hazy comet]

gunner and engi just have the best single target and wave clear

driller lacks reliable single target and scout just doesnt have enough dps

engi is really flexible and has turrets to cover your back
gunner has good CC and AoE gnades, as well as invincibility on demand

[civic ledge]

I still need to promote engie

[hazy comet]

if you havent promoted him yet you probably dont have the OC's which make him OP yet anyways

[civic ledge]

Oh, no

I have a lot of engineer overclocks

Every breach cutter one too

[hazy comet]

Fatboy or Hyper propellant PGL or return to sender bc is the meta

[azure spoke]

driller's axes work fine for single targets

[hazy comet]

supplement with plasma burster gnades for omega-OP clear

[civic ledge]

I have HP

[hazy comet]

HP is super good imo. just needs good aim.

[azure spoke]

throw in a c4 occasionally, and don't finish them off wit hthe axe, just weaken them enough to take down with the secondary or primary

[hazy comet]

and you need to run bursters to cover waveclear

Oz, i love driller and main him. but that is not feasible for the more dangerous targets like a menace or spitter

[azure spoke]

hmm, I suppose for a menace

[hazy comet]

also if you havent tried, run berzerker with vampire for some quick health/stuns or easy oppressor kills

[azure spoke]

mostly due to range issues

[hazy comet]

axe is more used for the stun on demand than the damage imo

[azure spoke]

but menaces shouldn't take down a DD run

[hazy comet]

great for stopping special attacks quickly

[azure spoke]

target Boscoe to prioritize them and use the secondary, then tret them like the nuisance they are and deal with other targets unless they are targetting the dozer

[hazy comet]

on normal deep dives you can use literally anything. haz 3 is not a challenge

ive done it melee only a few times.

[azure spoke]

Yes, Vex, we were discussing Cake's DD run

[hazy comet]

Didnt seem like it. we were discussing engi before

[azure spoke]

Higher difficulties, things change, of course

[zinc coral]

man I think i've retried the EDD like 5+ times now, haven't had any luck getting high level randos so the stages aren't so brutal. I already know we not gonna make it to stage 3 or even clear stage 3 when they're dying at stage 1 like 3 minutes in already lol. I can probably just solo it to beat it, but it's actually quite fun to try to carry team..

[hazy comet]

Stage 1 forces you to go fast

[zinc coral]

yeah that's why i've been running driller all this time

[hazy comet]

focus on the aquarqs and try to get it all done by the first wave, then go for the black box

[azure spoke]

we black boxed early and did aquarqs after

the aquarqs weren't all that hard, imo

[zinc coral]

driller makes it really easy to be the wave clearer, objective person, and miner all at the same time so its actually pretty fun

[azure spoke]

but we did bunker for BB

[civic ledge]

Boscoe can get spitters, but menaces have too much health. I’ve done stage one without any resupply yet

[hazy comet]

lol ^

Bunkering is for leaf lovers

[hushed ingot]

I think you misspelled legends

[hazy comet]

Cake, have you tried the cryo rockets for boscoe?

iirc they 1 hit freeze the menace, then you can kill them with anything really

[azure spoke]

Bunkering has its place. Leaf Lovers is a sham of a water drink

[hazy comet]

engi setting up killing chokes with bug repellant platforms is faster and safer

[civic ledge]

I hardly ever remember to even use rockets, let alone remember which one I have

[hazy comet]

PE is all about time and bunkering eats it quickly

try the Cryo rockets next time cake. they're really good. 2 kills a breeder as well

[azure spoke]

We didn't bunker the PE aspect of it

and bunkering is a quick enough set up. It worked fine for us, and I had a less than experienced team

but, I agree that it probably wasn't necessary. I do think it's a tool that can be used in certain conditions, and this week's dive seemed fine for it, which, in my experience, turned out to be true

[hazy comet]

EDD this week is really tame

last few have been a nightmare

[azure spoke]

I think I agree, forthe most part

First run through we struggled, especially atthe start of stage 3

and stagethreee gave us a nice praetorian swarm after we were already hurting

ten the dread ate us alive

second run went much smoother

[hazy comet]

i had a group of level 20 greenbeards and all I had to do was drive home the point "dont get hit"

seems really obvious but most players dont take it fully to heart

especially when on EDDs a single swarmer can nearly 1 shot your shield

[azure spoke]

I still struggle with it with grunts and mactera

focused on killing, forget to not get killed

[hazy comet]

everything makes a sound, get good headphones and you'll hear them coming long before you see them

[azure spoke]

not always, no

[hazy comet]

it makes you look like a spinbotter if you do it all the time

the only one thats buggy right now (pun intended) is mactera grabbers. they still dont make noise sometimes

[azure spoke]

that may be a worse insult than leaf lover shudder

[hazy comet]

everything else, including grunts and swarmers, make loud noises

[azure spoke]

grunts adn swarmers can come up on you unexpectedly if they spawn in a distance awya

especially on verticval maps wherethey come up overthe ledge

[hazy comet]

i rarely get caught offguard if i am listening carefully

they will make footstep noises/screeches constantly

[azure spoke]

I recognize their sounds jsut fine, but they can certainly come up silently

[hazy comet]

just a matter of experience

[azure spoke]

neh

[hazy comet]

you avoid those places in the first place

[azure spoke]

the expeience is that occsaionally they come up silently

yes, you do that

I've defiitely learned what terain to expect that kind of thing on

[hazy comet]

anyways you're free to not believe me. they make sounds and they are loud and happen very frequently

[azure spoke]

point is, listening alone isn't necessarily enough

[hazy comet]

just a matter of experience

[azure spoke]

Vex, I don't have to believe or disbelieve you over my own ears

I am teling you what happens to me, not what "should" happen, or what htey "usually" do

neh
@azure spoke

[hazy comet]

oh well next time i just wont try to give tips. its always unappreciated

good luck on next weeks

[azure spoke]

I recognize their sounds just fine, but they can certainly come up silently
@azure spoke

Thanks, you as well. Have fun leading the greenies!

[rain swan]

That feel when you get to the last section and two bulk dets spawn as soon as you get the last pipe connected

Those were some brave miners there with me, though. That's for sure.

[fossil orbit]

can someone tell me what deep dive is like

[autumn wharf]

Back to back digs, no break inbetween

[fossil orbit]

oh jesus christ

[lofty brook]

Couldn't tell you, I've never made it to the end of one

😄

[wild talon]

so I have a bit of a strange scenario that I would like to bring up, I am in a deep dive stage 2, and a Nayaka Traller smashes me into the top front left corner of Doretta's cage... I am still stuck...

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[wraith shard]

HRNGH

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[opal bear]

what is different about the edd to dd

[burnt sandal]

difficulty

[vale falcon]

Higher hazard, the rest of the mechanics are the same

[earnest totem]

Hey question about last weeks edd

I'm finishing it right now but i'm on stage 2 and cannot for the life of me find the last leg for one of the mules. anyone else have this problem or am i just blind?

[vale falcon]

Check your radar, mule legs appear in them

[earnest totem]

see that's the thing, i think they only do that once you pick them up. either way none are popping up. just our big mule and other player

i just want my cores

[wraith shard]

<@&296918282403840000> hey i have a question, im trying to invite people to play with me in #lfg-steam but since a while it wont show em the option to invite for the game anymore

[next pebble]

if you are set to offline it won't let you create an invite

[trail ruin]

Something's not right with normal deep dive

It sends into sandblasted corridors instead of radioactive zone

[wraith shard]

ooooooooooooooooh

i see now

thnx lol

[gleaming tinsel]

Another Egg+Drill combo. Think we are being trolled with a third one bois.

Who wants to bet that Doretta will yeet an egg out of the wall on her ventures?

[karmic cedar]

three detonators spawned on my egg+drill mission

[wintry geode]

ouch

[gusty whale]

Normal DD, Stage 2, got two Bulks back to back. On the first refuel and the wave just after surviving that.
Was fun. Got hope for the Speed achievement after getting 10:50 on Stage 1 but oh well, Doretta loves to take her time.

[signal pawn]

what was DD stage 2?

[gusty whale]

Drilldozer + 2 Mules

[signal pawn]

modifiers?

[gusty whale]

None

[signal pawn]

ty

[gusty whale]

Stage 3 is Morkite + 1 Dread with Low Oxygen. /Normal DD

[signal pawn]

how much morkite?

[gusty whale]

250 IIRC

[kind bough]

wew, that EDD

it finally rolled all of the worst modifiers in one go, and both U32 mission types

karl save us

[karmic cedar]

what modifiers are we (not) looking forward to?

[hazy comet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/jwyvut/weekly_deep_dives_thread_19th_november_2020/

[civic ledge]

@trail ruin Forgot to reset the lobby, he accessed the deep dive from last week