Brt7 technically has a much much higher dps
#deep-dive-discussion
sturdy berry
Yeah, I don't use it often but it surprises me every time
sand coyote
Karl's shaft 
sudden mortar
tried doing an EDD this weekend for the first time with randoms and we did it pretty convincingly, super fun time
this game keeps positively surprising me
well, the player base
wasnt even particularly high levels, avg was probably around 100
pine badger
Can't even get past first stage with most teams this EDD. What I get for playing with bronze randos. Meanwhile got to heartstone solo Scout.
hushed kindle
yeah this EDD is just too crazy. Each one is difficult as heck
pure ravine
Could someone drill past doretta to get the egg or is that not possible
lunar wolf
warped citrus
with how the pattern has been for the EDD
I suspect next week to also include mactera plague once again
Since it looks to be like after every 4 weeks that the elite deep dive won't have mactera plague
deft bough
when my team finally got past stage two in EDD, only to see that Stage 3 is shield disruption...
come on, man
robust sedge
What we got this week bois? Gonna get this halloween started with some spooky bug times
Oh nice file is up to date
plush wind
stage 3 went smoother than 2 on edd for just 2 man for us
golden crystal
i still need to attempt the EDD myself, i normally do it solo but i saw what the last stage was and thought "hmm... how about no?"
wet jasper
Sticky Flames from the CRSPR isn’t dealing any damage to Dreadnaughts. Direct damage works but not the flames on the ground.
Intended or bug?
old basin
pretty sure it's just a side-effect of unbreakable armor & not a bug
iirc the same thing applies to oppressors
graceful sparrow
Dreadnought is immune to fire
frail zodiac
thats just wrong
graceful sparrow
Is he not?
frail zodiac
nah
graceful sparrow
I always thought he was
frail zodiac
he has ignite immunity and explosion res on health phase
graceful sparrow
Ah
frail zodiac
CRSPR hurts him just fine tho
graceful sparrow
My bad
void dawn
CRSPR is pretty good with a slowing sticky build as he can be slowed. I perfer cryo in group scenarios for the extra dps.
bitter coral
I like the range of flamer verse the cyro and also for some biomes/modes it seems incinerating enemies quickly is better than freezing and vice versa. When there are a lot of armored up bugs, I think freezing is better because it outright stops them.
regal vapor
cryo is almost always better than flamer
more ammo, kills big enemies quicker, better crowd control etc
wicked carbon
I agree, the only strong suit of the flamer is its ability to destroy swarmers
that and the slow the sticky flame provides
kind bough
cryo seems kinda weak for mactera plague though unless you happen to have snowball and good aim
like freezing them is instant death but also they have high ice resist
so it's hard to corral them quickly if the game dumps 10+ of the buggers on you
young cove
thats what epc is for
i say that yet im terrible with it and usually just end up spamming it whilst running for my life
kind bough
lol
i definitely find myself using cryo more often now that i'm addicted to thin containment field
really need those freezes to shore up the mediocre epc damage
also, failed the EDD again 20 seconds before the drop pod open
pain.mp4
warped citrus
@kind bough I never have had to use explosive reload more times than ever on mactera plague
Cryo SUCKS for macteras unless you run a max dps build on cryo haha
obsidian gorge
freezing insta kills swarmers though, and frozen mactera are insta killed as well, no need to kill it with damage
viral tulip
Snowball will insta-freeze them @warped citrus
And it's a lot easier to live with post ammo buff
warped citrus
true
viral tulip
Side note: If you're about to get mactera grabbed and hit the snowball button right before it happens, it'll still go off and freeze the grabber
warped citrus
but at that point you might as well run facemelter with 2 ammo buffs to kill the macteras in no more than 1 second due to having 144 dps
well actually both can work well hrm
kind bough
thank karl they fixed frozen grabbers being glitchy as hell
that was my first EDD, driller got snatched by a frozen grabber and dropped 70m down in solid rock
kind bough
he was also completely invisible except for his tools after I dug all the damn way down there, killed him, and revived him
which was, at least, amusing
if extremely vulnerable to friendly fire
deft bough
anyone have edd tips? i know for third stage the optimal play is to get the egg before you unlock doretta, but im not sure what to do before that
frail zodiac
EDD 3rd stage spawns 2 bulks in first refuel, lmao
kind bough
edd stage 1: for the love of god go FAST
hopefully you have a scout because the entire map is verticality hell and half the aquarqs are in really dickish positions
i ran scout on my second attempt and literally cut our mission time in half because we weren't getting mobbed by swarm after swarm and wasting all our resources on traversal tools
frail zodiac
i have this guy: 
kind bough
lol
chad bosco
honestly bosco would trivialize a lot of the problems with that stage
frail zodiac
bosco 2020
kind bough
edd stage 2 is just standard mactera plague strats, ie for the love of god stay in or near cover
drillers are very helpful for digging panic bolt holes
though the room with the salvage objectives has a nasty habit of spawning both a breeder, like sixty bajillion mactera, and a spitballer
though whether those will actually appear (besides the sixty bajillion mactera, there's no avoiding them) is not guaranteed
personally I've gotten the breeder every time and my loathing for it is powerful
kind bough
i thought so too but i saw someone in here who didn't know what I was talking about
i only run in duo
kind bough
good lord
frail zodiac
like, did you guys got double bulks on stage 3 refuel?
kind bough
i haven't gotten to stage 3 yet but i'm sure bulk bogan will make an appearance
viral tulip
We got one in the first room alongside a wave of praets
kind bough
getting owned on stage 2 right in front of extraction is crushing my spirit
viral tulip
We also got one in the first stage
kind bough
the optimal EDD strat is of course to not have lame friends that drop the game right after they promote 1 dwarf
deft bough
@kind bough i totally agree on speed w/ stage one, 2/3 ive loaded into have had either a scout who doesn't get aquarq or an engi who doesn't platform for scout and we spend 30 mins on that mission alone or whatever
frail zodiac
see I didnt got any bulks until during refuel, those will be fixed spawns depending on # of dwarves
deft bough
then you have to spend so much nitra just so you don't die instantly, so you have nothing for 2+3
viral tulip
Stage 1 actually gave us the most trouble since the bulk spawned early on the first time and wiped us
Second go we rushed it and it didn't show up until extraction so we just ignored
Second stage sucked but we were ready for it, snowball made quick work of the worst of the swarms as long as the shot hit
I also did more cave prep than normal for stage two, and I do think that helped
deft bough
when you spawn into stage one, you're sort of implicitly told to spread out and go your own way bc it's a point extraction mission and it goes faster if everyone fans out
but bc it's hazard 5 and egg is the submission you also want to stay together so you can help each other with swarms, so you're constantly negotating two fundamentally different playstyles
not a dig at the mission, i actually think that's a really cool idea
viral tulip
It's also a layout that can make quick regrouping very difficult with all the verticality and environmental hazards
Making sure there was an easy route back to the mine head + coordinating the egg pops helped a lot
sacred granite
This was a terrible week to try EDD again when you never play it
Mainly for me how damn vertical stage 1 was as the Scout
Two squares up top for me to get, however it took me like three planned grappling hooks to get back up there, in the middle of which I was inevitably attacked
And once I got to the top but was just pushed off a d fell all the way back down
We did very nearly finish stage 1 on our first try though, but it was down to just our Driller trying desperately to get up to the drop pod while being repeatedly snatched by two grabbers
viral tulip
Those grabbers were a bitch
sacred granite
We tried a second time but that was just a disaster and we died REAL quick
Well, here's to trying again next week!
tough zodiac
Only 1 bulk spawned for me
Also I finessed the first stage by letting bosco get 3 or 4 minerals
visual lake
Regular team still didn’t manage to get it as we kept getting a ridiculous number of bulks
Went pug and did it on first try lol
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robust sedge
This EDD is a little rough
if Snowball Cryogun can freeze mactera like cryo grenade, might be a gamechanger :/
viral tulip
It does
It's a tricky shot since there's a 1.5 sec windup and it has a bit of an arc on it, but it does do the trick
wraith shard
ingame name is ClassifiedMZ if anyone is looking for me
quasi galleon
My experience with the EDD has been we slog through stage 1 and 2 fine, then get creamed on the first cave of 3. Real demoralizing. None of the teams want to dig to the eggs and my driller heart breaks.
sand tusk
My partner and I are really struggling getting through stage 1 of the EDD, anyone have any tips? Or a dwarf combo for it? We tried driller/eng a few times and were struggling.
tame verge
We dug to the first egg on stage 3 and had a swarm but dorreta wasn't awake so we're fine what killed us was a det that spawned on dorreta
it's a nasty deep dive
visual lake
@sand tusk I don’t see how you are going to get the top egg without a engy + scout
You could potentially try an resupply mine it but it’s super high up
drifting laurel
Can anyone justify using the flame thrower over the Cryo? Cryo cannon now with 725 max ammo and shatter just seems too hard to beat
odd comet
Yes
Fire
But seriously, cryo has nothing remotely close to sticky flames. Max sticky flame build is an absolute beast at holding points and tight corridors. Flamer also has better direct damage potential than cryo builds, if you like that sort of thing, as well as natural synergy with the Subata's incendiary rounds.
plush ravine
specking of direct damage potential, cyro with ice storm now actually have 450 more total damage
But crspr can burn so it should be similar
imo, for now the only crspr build that's comparable to cryo is sticky flame
But if you are looking for other than just sticky flame, you may want to choose cryo, ice storm/snow ball/perfectly tuned cooler
the precondition is that you have to have those oc first tho
Without the oc crspr and cryo are just different playstyle
cosmic hearth
Does anyone have a sneaky tip for EPC mining? I'm practicing but struggling to get the timing down consistently
plush ravine
use it diagonally under the mineral
not facing not straightly under
That's really it
only thing left is practice
or try different charge time
but after you get used to a specific charge time, try not to switch
that mess up your rhythm of TCF mining
sacred granite
Generally speaking, is Cryo Cannon max freeze power build recommended? I've just been trying it and I've found it fun, at least
modern adder
Cold radiance is already more than enuff for freezing
The ammo upgrade is much better in my opinion
And the first row I prefer the one that lets u shoot for longer
plush ravine
as the balancing group of this game is pretty insane
most of the builds are pretty viable
Even if it's not higher tier, it will still be enough for you to pass every difficulty
the most important point is to understand how to utilize your build
short answer: yes
flint zephyr
Freeze aura or shatter? I always used shatter because I thought aura was useless on paper, but I see people talking about it being viable.
plush ravine
It's stronger than the flat freezing power mod itself, especially after the ammo buff
but cold radiance and shatter are actually a different playstyle tho
cold radiance is supportive
shatter is better wave handling
flint zephyr
But in the end, to get anything out of shatter you need to spec more into freezing so that targets shatter instead of outright killing them before they can actually freeze. Wouldn't the mod choices be mostly the same and wouldn't you still be freezing bugs the same manner?
unique spoke
What's this week's dd like?
modern adder
With cold radiance your don’t need either of the freezing mods cos the freeze rate increase it gives is mad
But yeah, u become more of a support than a dps
So you need to make sure u have a capable gunner or one with voice chat, so u can coordinate what to freeze for him to shoot
flint zephyr
Interesting. Thanks.
deft bough
@unique spoke the regular dd is not that bad, the elite dd is hellish
viral tulip
I'm running 21222 + perfectly tuned cooler on my normal cryo vampire build - the boosted freeze power isn't really noticeable for trash mobs, but I find it extremely worthwhile for bigger bugs
If you're feeling particularly bold, freezing bulks is pretty doable with that build
flint zephyr
Bulk killzone is larger than 5 meters though, is it?
flint zephyr
I've frozen dets before by primary fire, but I wouldn't consider ever using aura to do it.
viral tulip
with only a 10m primary I'm not exactly safe just using that either
It's much more valuable for being able to get up in praet's faces and quickfreeze them
flint zephyr
I have the extra 5m mod.
viral tulip
Opressors a little less so since they unfreeze so quickly, but it can do it
flint zephyr
Opressors at least keep some of their freeze buildup after unfreezing so you can quickly freeze them again.
I'll have to try an aura build when I come back from work but this is pretty interesting.
midnight coyote
keen gull
@unique spoke the regular dd is not that bad, the elite dd is hellish
@deft bough the first stage is a monster, after that I actually had fun. Final stage isn't TOO bad with Shield Disruption because the bugs mostly go for Doretta. That said we copped four bulk dets and only one exploded near the dozer.
cosmic hearth
We just dug ahead for the eggs in the final stage of the EDD, in case of swarms
wraith shard
@keen gull lool my group encountered 2 bulks at stage 3, any others we encountered while evacuating were ignored. maybe having a team of 3 reduced the amount of enemies?
vocal knoll
Solo DD was remarkably easy this week. Was expecting a much worse Dense Biozone layout for the refining.
barren mural
Did the EDD last night with some people who had failed it previously. We stuck together and did fine - thought it was easier than last week's?
Some tips:
DO NOT get off the dozer in level 3.
We dug to get both eggs before we started the dozer, but the second egg is near the refuel point.
royal skiff
Yeah you can def tackle it with a bit of a plan
but these EDD's tend to fall apart fast otherwise
tall warren
Looks like the EDD has changed with the patch, Doretta no longer paths through eggs
Ore locations and some stationary creature spawns are shuffled as well
tall warren
The terrain generation however, is the same
I cant beat the third stage
tried it maybe 5-6 times now
I swear its impossible
wraith shard
Vampire + berserk + see you in hell + impact axes = lol wut r shields
dull notch
jesus christ that first big cave on stage 2 of the elite dive
tall warren
its a vibe
near turtle
is this game dead
raw onyx
did they change this weeks deep dive?
ive played it the second time and 3rd stage and the eggs and caves are diffrent
and 2nd stage the drop pod was closer
gleaming cave
Is there a Secondary variant of every Mission Type? (I.e. Uplink‘s being Black Box)
small pecan
no aquarq/on site / escort are have no secondary variant
vast valve
2nd mission on elite is a fucking nightmare
ashen ridge
yes. the EDD is different
i think they nerfed it a bit. the first mission isn't as hard
warped citrus
@vast valve it really is lmao
my team got absolutely mobbed by grabbers
and same happened when I went solo
vast valve
5 spitballers clustered kinda near eachother. 2 brood nexuses. a breeder.
pure insanity
royal skiff
OH yeah the second room is nuts!
You have to grind forward one enemy at a time and stay stable. We circled back to the mouth of the cave like three times with turrets set up to knock down the jelly waves
That breeder will take off quick if you can't down it and then you have to fight it last
Also do yourself a favour and bunker the black box/fuel lines. It's the only breather you get.
visual lake
second room just take it slow
just set up shop at the entrance and wait for the breeders to come nearby
dont try and rush them down
you'll diaf if rushing
if you are lucky engy has hyper or driller can slowly wear them down with explosive reload
only thing is if you get bad timing and get a wave from behind the crush can get bad
tall warren
Anyone know if there’s a way to beat the flying rocks on the third stage?
Can you pheromone cheese the immoral heartstone?
royal skiff
Explosive reload, embedded detonators, bc, axes all good. With the bc get level with their spawn height on a plat it's easier to hit more than one that way
Or stand on the heart shell
molten viper
i dont like how much damage acid spitters do to doretta
kind bough
worry not, I have faith that the next 3 hotfixes will decrease doretta's HP further 
signal bison
Beat the elite deep drive. I am magnificent.
Went down 20 times...
Lost both tracks to a spitball infector and an acid spitter before we even got to the heartstone
And as as a final middle finger, it spawned a detonator during the extraction
static citrus
Anyone up to join a scout and driller on a deep dive
frigid kayak
Pls we need the help
static citrus
Game open, Sorry its a deep dive elite
kind bough
well, I tried
i actually have no idea how the hell you would do this as solo scout
the deck is so stacked against scout on any drilldozer mission it's insane
stage 2 was already basically impossible and I just faked my way through it by throwing absurd numbers of cryo grenades
median siren
Why do you play the Rez perk when you are solo? It would help to have something else
And why do you have a dark morkite active?
kind bough
because:
- the rez perk could honestly be replaced with iron will and I just didn't notice
- why would I not use a daily bonus when it's active
i'm not gonna sit around for 3 hours waiting for the right daily bonus to roll
there's a morkite objective in stage 2 and if dark morkite is what's up for the next however long then why would I not take it
median siren
Ah ok I forgot that it was a deep dive. For the beer, you can change the time of your PC to make it roll
Ex: it’s 16:00
You change your time to 22:00 and you have a new beer available
If you want another one, make it 2:00
wraith shard
does anyone want to play the EDD? I keep failing on stage 3
plush dew
if you want a tip for stage 3: drill out the eggs before you start up the dozer. the first one (that gets drilled trough) is very close, so it's much easyer if you seperate the objectives.
since the driller doesnt need fuel on the whole stage anyway, he can get both eggs easily before the dozer is started. you should have way more nitra then needed anyway.
kind bough
they fixed that, actually
or adjusted it
i saw some people talking about it and confirmed it for myself, the eggs aren't in the path of the dozer anymore
plush dew
really? that's odd, i didnt expect them to change something like that
especially since you can work around it
kind bough
i think the assumption is that unless you read the discord or are clairvoyant you wouldn't have a way to know that was coming
plush dew
well you'd know on a repeat
kind bough
sure, but gotchas like that aren't especially good game design in the first place
plush dew
i did beat it first try, but it was really close. i just got the egg first when i repeated it with another party
kind bough
it doesn't feel great when the game rips the rug out from under you lol
especially with how tedious it is to do the whole damn dive over again lmao
I prefer to save my screaming for when Mission Control sends me grunt swarms and Bulk Bogan
plush dew
i dont mind it being sketchy very rarely, thats part of the fun of procedual generation for me.
the egg being right in the path on pretty much the hardest combination of circumstances is extreamly rare anyway
shield desrupt, magmacore, h5.5
blissful hull
wow i guess i'm not getting my deep dives done twice in a week
visual lake
Eggs are all in the ommoran room now
feral oasis
So they made it easier, maybe I should start waiting a day or 2 before completing them
sacred fossil
So that EDD is pretty insane lads.
Didn't think DRG could ever be that hard, it's fun!
rotund knot
Hey guys does anyone know why this week's deep dive has been changed?
The terrian is mostly the same but the refinery is in a different spot, and alot of the ores have been shuffled around as well.
sudden mortar
too difficult I guess
which I find odd, it was my 2nd EDD ever and I did it with randoms and it went fine
I probably just got super lucky I guess
warm notch
Dangit i can solo dd myself quickly but when it comes to edd's i cant even get past the first stage
Finding a proper team is a pain as well
wraith shard
- WARNING * to people in this discord, we finished the deep dive and the host unplugged his internet (which caused us all to disconnect and lose the rewards), then he commented "Sorry, this is what happened" on my steam profile followed by a super obvious virus link pretending to be steam images
pliant girder
The one biggest flaw in this game is that it kicks you out if the host disconnects instead of transferring hosts. Or just putting you into solo play.
wraith shard
it definitely needs host migration and reconnects
rotund knot
too difficult I guess
@sudden mortar
I'm talking about the regular deep dive, and nothing but the layout seems to have changed - how does that impact difficulty?
sudden mortar
oh I thought you meant EDD
and layout impacts the difficulty severely in general IMO
rotund knot
The terrain is the exact same, but the refinery was moved about 50m and the uplink was relocated
And all of the ores were shuffled
Idrk how that makes it so much easier that they have to change it mid-week
but more importantly do you have any evidence for this claim? I'm curious if anyone's seen anything from the devs - I've looked in the patch notes and didn't see any mentions of the deep dive
sudden mortar
It's not a claim anymore, I said I thought you were talking about EDD
which I saw a lot of people talking about how was so unforgiving and hard
warped citrus
@sudden mortar the EDD is hellish
my team went down so much lmao
and when I attempted solo I personally went down like 12 times
Also, it was the first time I failed a mission
Not by death but ACTUALLY failing
Dorretta got deleted by 2 bulks and like what I could count of 6 or 7 acid spitters on the last stretch of the objective on stage 3
plush dew
h5 escort solo is already pretty rough and acid spitter damage is silly on doretta
quasi galleon
Really wish the harder stages where on 1 and 2. least then it isn't as demoralizing to fail after 30 minutes of investment over and over.
Doretta is made of paper, of this I am convinced.
calm nacelle
He be right tho. Dorry dont stanf a chance on haz 5. Feel like they should at least make her explosion resistant. Having 3 exploders chunk her health is always demoralizing
Unless someone is glued to dorreta, you dont stand a chance
deft kite
edd this week ain't that bad
plush dew
doretta is extreamly explosion resistant, and barely takes any damage from environmental damage (mushroom bombs plants do about 2% of the side pannel hp)
she's so resistant actually that they reduced it in the last patch.
deft kite
also doretta does stand a chance on haz 5 i do haz 5 with doretta constantly
so it is very doable
plush dew
last stage is definetly far above average difficulty for edd, atleast before they moved the eggs
plush dew
i dont remember any edd being hard in the past few months
deft kite
you can drill for eggs first and then do doretta
plush dew
yeah thats what i did when i redid the edd for a group of friends. but if you dont know that then its pretty tough
deft kite
i don't remember any edd being hard except some of the first ones and one in fungus bog with a dread in a ridiculous room and a salvage on an edge
i mean you know you have objective
you know doretta triggers swarms and you have to defend it
you know eggs can trigger swarm
plush dew
yeah but the odds of carving out the eggs are slim and it's not something you think about unless you've already experienced it
deft kite
we dropped in i was driller and i said let's do egg first
we did egg and minerals
then doretta
gg ez
rich forge
I just did the eggs after doing the drill
robust sedge
Everything does 2% or more in a hit to Doretta, which is what makes missions hard. The EDD means you have a sheer army of things plinking for 2% which means 25-50 hits and it's done.. that's really not hard especially once beams start popping up.
Bulk Dets are an instant kill, I don't think they even do damage they just delete anything in a radius. Doretta can soak it with an armour panel because they have their own health pool that just gets nulled XD
regal vapor
jesus edd this week is cancer
gleaming cave
I did it once but forgot what was in it.
regal vapor
ext mules and escort
with goddamn maectra swarm on floor 2
so i have to go extraction with flamer which is shit and then after second stage i have to escort with flamer
which is also shit
also the layouts is just not good overall
regal vapor
i', also trying to not go ocs for challenge
well i guess i'm gonna try to do it today
again
royal skiff
Vs macteras dig the wall
Make a whole bunker since your Det charges don't get much other use
regal vapor
if i go flamer i can deal with them easily
royal skiff
A canopy with 3/4s cover wrecks them and means you can actually guarantee your dodge movements
regal vapor
well i can beat first 2 stages i did it
royal skiff
I agree cryo can be a little too slow
regal vapor
escort is when i lose it
royal skiff
I mean if you want to go cryo
regal vapor
because i don't have enough ammo
idk i gonna try
today is the last day i think
is it
royal skiff
Ye I think flamer cc doesn't go quite as far as cryo and when it hits that limit you can tell
royal skiff
Oh the opening level is awful yeah
Because it's just so hard to get around and get everything
warped citrus
@regal vapor in the last 3 months, only 3 weeks have not had mactera plague
topaz gust
Mactera-19 lockdown soon
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ruby hawk
If you have 0 shields when you leave a deep dive mission do you just not get them back?
surreal vale
ruby hawk
Yea idk
The first mission I left with no shields and the second mission I didn’t get any
But I had them on the third
languid pewter
So I hope the next elite deep dive isn't as hellish as this last one in magma core
ruby hawk
I don’t think I’m ready for elite
primal cobalt
Someone explain how you do a deep dive how to promote a class and what the forge does. Please
?
sour kettle
that last step for elite deep dive is just pure evil
and those rocks falling lighspeed on doretta feel unfair
primal cobalt
sour kettle
<_>
manic spade
Do I get more matrix cores if I repeat deep dives?
obsidian gorge
@manic spade nay
manic spade
Dang.
vocal knoll
gave the EDD stage 1 couple tries solo, couldn't quite pull it off, got really close tho
warped citrus
Calling it, mactera plague once more in the EDD
deft kite
i see a lot of people complaining edd this week is hard if you're na east i can carry you
but you have to listen
warped citrus
I just hate how repetitive the edds recently been
due to mactera plague literally being in every edd for the last 3 months with exception to 3 weeks
deft kite
yeah i miss lethal macteras when macteras were affected by the lethal modifier
then again i'd take macteras over exploder infestation and ghost bulk
royal skiff
@ruby hawk the second stage had shield disruption that's not usual
Mactera plagues are countered very effectively by driller coves and engi canopy. You don't even need to kit for mactera then, versatile builds are enough
The killer thing about macteras is once they spread out a bit, a Dodge away from one is just a straight line towards another so you can't avoid getting hit and you'll go down
Positioning does more work than anything else against them, especially since the ground mobs will be halved so you won't get run down anywhere
ruby hawk
Okay I didn’t know that
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languid pewter
Wait, mactera plague halves the number of ground mobs??
modest trail
inland shale
I still got killed at the last mission by a grabber. >:(
frigid venture
What's up fellow miners. Did anyone have the issue of their driller not being able to drill, even though you heard the drill spinning when it actually wasn't? I noticed this specifically last night when i was playing several times, and made sure it wasn't user error. Any information on this glitch/bug would be appreciated. Thanks!
azure spoke
It happens to me occasionally for a moment or two. I think it's lag. Somone lese called it packet loss?
frigid venture
Thanks for the response. I was trying to figure it out, because I have never had that happen. Or, any lag for that matter. I have a pretty good system and it runs perfectly fine on way more demanding games. Thank you!
azure spoke
well, perhaps the lag is the other way around, like the host was having issues
crude knot
frigid venture
Maybe, Oz either way thank you
viral tulip
Did you make sure you had ammo @frigid venture ?
Because that sounds exactly like the drill's out of fuel behavior
nocturne dust
What's up fellow miners. Did anyone have the issue of their driller not being able to drill, even though you heard the drill spinning when it actually wasn't? I noticed this specifically last night when i was playing several times, and made sure it wasn't user error. Any information on this glitch/bug would be appreciated. Thanks!
@frigid venture were you host?
naive creek
oh god stage 3 of the EDD
flint zephyr
Finished EDD today. Considering how many people I heard on here saying how hellish it is, I surprisingly had a smooth ride. The only bad time we had was when the dozer drilled through the egg and spawned a double swarm, but even after splitting up with only scout on dozer, we still kept it at full health by the end. It was a very stressful three minutes, but we made it. We had a great team.
Notable things I remember, we had an engi with hyprop, gunner with neurotoxin AC, I played driller with freeze aura, scout was using M1000. Somehow we had a good combo.
warped citrus
@flint zephyr what sorcerery did you use
TELL ME LMAO, I MUST KNOW THESE SECRETS
My EDD runs were so hellish since we had like 4 bulks spawn in the 3rd stage haha
naive creek
bruhhhhh we really need a host migration. He just quit randomly stage 3 of edd
quiet tulip
Stage 3 of the elite this week just does not care about your feelings does it
near delta
haz 5.5 escort is seriously fucked
those rocks are fucking hitscan
They seriously need to not scale the rocks speed
that shits just stupid
feral atlas
I finished the EDD with pubs
this was fucking easy, i thought it would actually be difficult judging from the screeching in the forums
silent thorn
Ight bois. I'm downloading it on the gamepass for my xbox and I'm wondering if crossplay is available? With pcs lol
junior fossil
with the microsoft store iirc, not with the steam one
static hound
yeah play on steam if you can
silent thorn
Thank you guys sorry I started playing and getting my bearings. I'm already in love.
junior fossil
well it is possible to solo the edd just saying https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565850434376302613/773854321175298079/unknown.png
breach cutter and proxy mines go brrrrr
also I am fairly rusty as I havent played in a month or two
worn badger
@junior fossil Teach me and carry me senpai also how'd you get back up 6 times?
junior fossil
yeah bosco gets you up 3 times per stage
as I mentioned I am rusty
I used dash and the antigrabber because that is what I left there last time I played
warped citrus
pls no more mactera plague edd
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warped citrus
PLS NO MACTERA PLAGUE EDD
junior fossil
tbh I like mactera + explosive guts, all the little bees go boom together
warped citrus
my issue is in 3 month, only 3 weeks were not mactera plague on the EDD
the game must have a heavy af weighting to have it
azure spoke
glacial, low o2, lethal enemies, parasites
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vocal maple
I really want sandblasted edd
worn badger
If I hafve a minus timer for a deep dive can I still do it and get the reward?
Currently -19:-35 so hoping so?
warped citrus
@signal pawn wonder what the modifiers are
signal pawn
first stage is nothing
second stage is low oxygen with refinery
and 150 morkite
i wonder if the pumpjacks have O2 tanks 🤔
plush ravine
as I remember no
wary grail
They don't sadly
plush ravine
Needa call a resupply next to every single well
flint zephyr
You can't be serious.
DRG puts oxygen canisters on the mule, supply drop, drop pods, black boxes etc. but couldn't be bothered to put them on pumpjacks. What a bunch of cheapskates.
wary grail
Do we know stage 2/3 of the DD or the 3rd one on the EDD?
cursive path
Reddit says it's 4 eggs, black box with mactera plague
signal pawn
^
gleaming tinsel
DD maps?
wary grail
DD is crystaline caverns
EDD is salt pits
gleaming tinsel
Nice
old orbit
intel on the new deep dives?
eager parcel
kind bough
Well, we got our wish
No macteras on EDD
in fact that whole EDD looks pretty easy compared to last week
i can't wait to be proven wrong
worn glade
Is management thirsty for omelets or something?
whats up with all the eggs
i hate eggs
quiet mortar
Little late this week, must apologise
DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Unveiled Reserve
Stage 1: 
3 M.U.L.E.s + 
2 Eggs | 
Regenerative Bugs
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + 📡 ** 1 Black Box** | Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 
200 Morkite + 2 Eggs | No Mutators!
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Salt Pits | Code Name: Fierce Look
Stage 1: 
Protect The Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators!
Stage 2: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Parasites
flint zephyr
@warped citrus The secret is I didn't get any bulks on the doretta mission, but it was still a tight run all things considered while escorting the dozer. Mactera plague was annoying as hell but doable.
Also hooray no mactera plague this week! Low oxygen refining sounds annoying as fuck but it's a welcome challenge.
vapid monolith
Low o2 is a bitch on refining
flint zephyr
Guess you just gotta hug the mine head. Never played it though.
vague elbow
It's not very different than on PE. Easier I think since it's just 3 locations.
tawdry spade
tough zodiac
Doesn't look bad except low o2
tough zodiac
Engi won't be good enough?
vapid monolith
Breeder, spirballer, and two nexuses in the same pit
tough zodiac
Wat the
tall herald
shellbacks on escort are bad
gleaming tinsel
Except when they yeet themselves into the Drill head. Which they do ALOT of the time.
junior fossil
tfw the drillhead goes stright through a brood nexus
gleaming tinsel
I love salt pits with Drill. The rolies run straight into their death. If you are swarmed by them
Climb on Doretta. They cant damage her as far as I know.
junior fossil
I think they do damage her but not that much
plush ravine
I gotta find some place to say this
Just finished the EDD of the week
I legit solo a 4 men EDD 2nd and 3rd stage
My team just dying
All of them
3
For the stage 2 and stage 3
They all down before the main objective being completed
I solo waiting the stage 2 pod
and solo drill 3 of the eggs out in the stage 3
The engi just keep asking me to bunker
I gave them one and out myself
And they all die to bulk in stage 3
I leave them all alone and escape to pod myself
The team be like "tFw wHY YOu dOn't STiCk wIth US aNd bUnker, iT'S EasY"
and I just answer
"That's exactly why all of you 3 although being higher player level than me, but still you all need a relatively green player to wipe your ass."
Then they rage
Lmao
rose osprey
Bunkers are almost like a coin flip, they're really helpful or they can be very dangerous when a bulk arrives lol
feral atlas
if those player levels are lower than 100, I honestly don't think it makes much of a difference
plush ravine
man, my EDD will be much easier if I solo it
Somehow I just wanna make myself suffer
If I can solo last week's EDD
probably this one is easy
They just don't know what they're suppose to do
They just wanna use those small little trick
causing me to wipe their ass
I gave them a emergency bunker
and a bulk shows up
and still have 30% hp when he reach the door
I drill a exit out
They don't even know they need to move
rose osprey
sometimes it helps to have an emergency exit set up for bunkers incase of bulks
plush ravine
I always do
feral atlas
generally, if you need to bunker, the team is already probably bad
rose osprey
did you create an exit for them?
plush ravine
I personally hate bunker, it kind of need a well co-op team to do this
But if your team is well oiled and yall cooperate
you probably never need a bunker
feral atlas
It's not even that
rose osprey
I'm a team player!
plush ravine
did you create an exit for them?
@rose osprey I did
rose osprey
ah oks
feral atlas
if the individual players on the team are good enough to not constantly die from stupid reasons, you don't need to bunker
you don't need actual coordination or cooperation
rose osprey
you know what I hate? when players keep blowing up my nerv gas lol
plush ravine
They are stupid enough to not find I actually made one for them when swarm strike us unexpected
plush ravine
um
They don't really die for stupid reason
They're just stupid in general
Can't even handle his part of swarm
and like down every time
They call a ton of supply and never use them when they need
Like wtf
rose osprey
I feel ya, I've been in many dumb groups
plush ravine
I just found that cryo vamp can be life saving in this situation
I used to use sticky fuel to hard carry my team
But now seems that cryo vamp is a little bit better
rose osprey
yeah, cryo's my fav gun
plush ravine
For how convenient it is to keep a healthy HP
rose osprey
burning the targets works but it still gives them a chance to hit you
plush ravine
I kind of don't even need a secondary
Most of the time just dmg mod power drill or berzerk
True
rose osprey
yeah using drills can save on ammo with secondary
plush ravine
Im using heat pipe TCF EPC
rose osprey
I like to nerv gas and run away untill they're all dead lol
plush ravine
Most of the time I don't even use it in battle
I use the kiting skills I learnt by using sticky fuel
and apply it to cryo vamp
um
gas sounds good, but I need to deal with larger target on my own
maybe impact axe is still a little better
rose osprey
yeah axe is good for strong single targets
vale falcon
The Nade is decent too but bounces too much
rose osprey
I sacrifice being crap at killing dreads and bulks with taking neuros lol
sacrifice being good*
I mean
plush ravine
um, maybe I can try it
Because for real
90% of the time
You are dying to grunts
You probably just need to be ok dealing with larger target
in order to hard carry
rose osprey
1 neuro can wipe out like 20 grunts at once. just slowly though lol
plush ravine
wave handling is much more important imo
plush ravine
Can never have too much ammo
plush ravine
This game always have synergies in it's mechanics
But teammates can sometimes, actually most of the time imo, ruin it
plush ravine
I don't see why when Im using sticky fuel
my scout is 100% using cryo nade
instead of cryonade macteras, he cryo nade the group that's in my sticky flame
True
Just another day drowning myself in random greenbeards, being fulfilled to carry them and suffer the stupidity at the same time
Im in a love and hate relationship with this
rose osprey
if a cryo driller and a flamethrower driller work together, they can temperature shock the bugs which causes about 200 dmg
the target has to be either completely frozen or on fire and you just do the opposite to it and it does massive dmg
plush ravine
I've experienced this synergy for only once when I was still a greenbeard
I learnt to not ruin the veteran's cryo build up in a second
vale falcon
The most feels good cryo moment is when you oneshot a Breedee
plush ravine
But I dunno that you do 3x direct dmg to frozen target that time
so I just spary my fire into the face of those frozen bugs
and found out that they seems to take bonus damage when I do this
Took a while for me to find out what is actually happening in the miner manual
rose osprey
doing a charged pickaxe attack on frozen bugs doesn't do 3x dmg unfortunately
it'd be cool if it did
rose osprey
oohh oks
fallen rune
Whats this week's edd fellow miners?
plush ravine
Probably easier than last week
the 3rd stage have some big grunt swarm tho
Gotta pay attention and be mentally prepared for that
fallen rune
So no one's done it?
vale falcon
Everyone died
junior fossil
this weeks edd wasnt too bad, just be warned that a mule can spawn under the rocks around the big orb for the first stage
solemn shale
mactara grabber put my friend in the refinery and got stucked there lol
sudden mortar
refined gentleman
spiral sable
Nice
sudden mortar
you're a vampire harry
spiral sable
Ima wat?
median siren
@spiral sable @sudden mortar go in #drg-chat if you want to talk about these things
This channel is for deep dives
#drg-chat is for everything that’s not memes, fan-art, suggestions or bugs
velvet gorge
Stage 2 of EDD was disgusting compared to how easy part 3 felt
like 50 spitters, 3 breeders, 4 swarmers, no oxygen, grabbers, mecteras
kind bough
ouch
velvet gorge
stage 3 is like, here, have 1 room, 2 tunnels and just survive the black box and be fast and it's easy peasy
i mean, the H5.5 swarms you get are always horrifying, but still easier to deal with 50 grunts than spitters, breders and swarmers
Im guessing stage 2 will reap a lot of dwarves to see Karl
So, for stage 2, be prepared to freeze stuff, spam them big boi nukes and go guns blazing, and most likely supply pod right where you lad for oxygen
and be careful not fo fall like 100 feet to you deaths 🙂
tepid quail
velvet gorge
In EDD? low oxygen stage 2, stage 3 parasites, nada on stage 1
in standard DD, regen bugs stage 1, then stage 2 mactera plague, and nothing on stage 3
Stage 2 of DD also has Betsy
quasi galleon
Stage 2 of EDD was ridiculous. Like 12 praetorians and 2 spitballers right as we get out of the pod. Then a praetorian wave. 1 and 3 felt like hazard 4 and 3 respectively. Really weird, but better then last weeks bulk detonators spawning on poor Doretta.
ancient beacon
oh man, this week's elite deep dive is probably my favorite one yet
double bulks + swarm on the last stage
second stage is low o2 refinery with morkite
also the welcome committee on stage 2 is just nuts
first group I did it with got wiped just after leaving the pod
second group was smarter and we cleared the room before exiting
(the drop pod stays and provides o2 until the last dwarf leaves)
jade sorrel
I love the fact that "bunkering" increases the chances of a detonator or oppressor spawning
prime oak
guys. we are on the first stage of deep dive but we cant find the last leg of the mini mule. any ideas where it is? btw we found the mini mule under the undrillable surface.
robust tundra
I love the fact that "bunkering" increases the chances of a detonator or oppressor spawning
@jade sorrel by bunkering, you mean drilling with driller a hole?
jade sorrel
i mean like on a salvage mission where the driller makes a bunker around the fuel pod
vale falcon
all fun and games till a bulk shows up
jade sorrel
and engineer blocks the hole with platforms
kind bough
low ox refinery is definitely going to be very tedious
not as bad as ghost refinery, though
vale falcon
or you could like, shoot em
sudden mortar
ghost and low oxygen refinery would be the dankest combo
quasi galleon
I don't recall ever playing a mission with 2 red modifiers. That would suck so hard.
Also finished both DDs. Got trash loots. They weren't hard aside from EDD stage 2. That was hellish.
sudden mortar
yeah EDD stage 2 was a harsh entrance
we almost wiped, came back and it was smooth sailing from then on out though
had a greenbeard with us that died 16 times
kind bough
i don't think you can get 2 red modifiers on a mission. fortunately.
i don't want to think about how spooky that would be
because then it's only a matter of time before EDD rolled Mactera Plague Mactera Plague
quasi galleon
don't give em bad ideas please.
jade sorrel
bad ideas? I only hear ways to summon Karl
kind bough
of course sometimes you get "soft" double modifiers on EDD or regular missions because RNG just hates you
looking at you cave leech cluster
or more officially, not-cave-leech-cluster-but-there's-still-3-cave-leeches-within-20m-cluster
raw flint
ghost and mactera plague?
ornate junco
i still epc oilshale before lasering it
i still think its faster, just not glitched faster
vague elbow
It feels faster and that's all that matters in the caves
feral atlas
stage 2 isn't that bad, it just will really show if your team had an idiot gunner
orchid narwhal
What are the modifiers for each stage of the EDD?
junior fossil
stage 2 was tough to solo though, had to run a pipe up with low o2
luckily bosco can build the pipes for you
stable garnet
Fuck me. That was one of the most intense 2ND stage of an Elite I have ever played. Got through the Elite but damn......
supple sand
2nd stage was ridiculous. We got absolutely blasted right out the gate by a buttload of praetorians, mactera, and a naetocyte breeder. We didn't make it this time.
Plus two spitballers nearby, it was crazy.
stable garnet
I think our problem was at the first part of stage 2 I was dying left and right. Making the worst mistakes
We slowed down, and took too much time. You gotta get those pipes up as fast as you can and have that thing pumping in 10 mins or less. It was so crazy with the like 45 min stage 2 we did.
Also if you can do it quickly, sort of doing a little detour with the pipes to have some distance from the group when you need it, would be very helpful.
dusky raft
El puntero del raton falla mucho
indigo jungle
note to self: if team loses 1st phase of EDD, don't bother
ended up having more kills as 
than both and 
and that was a lvl 450 gunner
sudden mortar
must've been a shit gunner or you're a God amongst dwarves
or both?
I got as many kills as the three other dwarves combined
as a carpet bomber gunner
indigo jungle
no idea what happened but scout should have less kills, if it isn't the case something's wrong
sacred barn
pod 27 on DRG server ?
plush ravine
Player level doesn't represent anything
One can played a class a lot but still don't know what he should do
cause this game isn't even that punishing
this can totally happen
gleaming tinsel
I main Gunner and I'm only 309. Put me in another class and I will struggle an bit more. Scout being my worst. Yesterdays Deepdives tested me as a Driller
@indigo jungle did you have Mic in the EDD?
Did you guys have verbal communication?
indigo jungle
3rd EDD, our driller left at end of part 1
great
2nd EDD team got wiped at start of 2nd stage, which makes sense
gleaming tinsel
Yes but my question still stands. Did you guys hop into a Pod for your Elite Deep Dive?
indigo jungle
just a streak of bad luck
I just realized my first team, enginer didn't throw a single grenade
gleaming tinsel
sigh nvm
Anyone else find the Refinery mission in EDD with alot of bugs in waves and harassment? Or is it just me?
visual kindle
do you need a scout for this EDD? feels like another driller/gunner would be better
gleaming tinsel
Sort of
sudden mortar
I did it with 4/4 diff classes
its not so much about composition but about skill
our engineer was useless
but we picked up the slack
gleaming tinsel
@sudden mortar do you mean all 4 classes or 1 of the same?
gleaming tinsel
Ah ok
indigo jungle
4th EDD, driller left phase 2
neat
no DD this week
this is a greenbeard festival, i'm just going to assume all those lvl 100+ spammed haz4 missions
gleaming tinsel
I would ask but... ehhh 1 more try. @indigo jungle do you have a group of lads you could team with? Or just trying out randoms?
indigo jungle
randos but generally it goes smoothly, I've never had this happen before
gleaming tinsel
Rule for me is on EDD you want to have Coms unless it's a team you trust. Unless you are ready to hard carry any situation you find yourself in. Tends to be my mindset. I have already accepted that my "random" team may fail so I prepare myself to step up to the plate
Also helps to have other DRG discord to call upon for higher end DRG content like Haz5 or EDDs
gleaming tinsel
Maining Gunner for almost 800 hours and I can tell you, it helps to have a class you can bring to the table and whipe the floor with
indigo jungle
had 550 (!) kills as engi when we lost partway through stage 2 after driller left
median siren
Any class is good even if you’re not good at it
Scout might be the hardest to play
For gunner, you just gun
Driller, you make bunkers and shoot down that one hole
Engi, turrets, platforms and proxies
Scout is harder
gleaming tinsel
My experiance is there are ALOT of bad Gunner mains. It hurts to see
median siren
Also
indigo jungle
gunners with small shield
gleaming tinsel
But I did go Driller for the EDD. Struggled but we pulled through
median siren
But gunner is not that hard to play
I don’t care about the size tho
I only play solo or duo
indigo jungle
imagine putting down a shield and your team can't fit in
gleaming tinsel
For me being gunner means being Hyper aggressive vs the bugs. I dont mine minerals. I make sure WE CAN mine minerals. Gotta squish all them bugs
median siren
Exactly. I do the same during morkite missions
warm notch
Good ziplines, good use of secondary and grenades
median siren
I just Zipline through the whole room and cover everyone and everything
I don’t have big Bertha for AC so I play minigun
With the OC that does more damage and more spread
gleaming tinsel
And your sheild is a weapon btw. Not alot of gunners know that
Can create funnels. Help be aggressive. Cancel attack animations. And the things most gunners know like ally rez and breathing space
And MUCH much more. EDDs are just fun for me at this point. Gives me those high intensity moments
vast olive
short charm
As a Cryo Scout most of the time, mfw a Mactera Plague warning shows up in a deep dive. https://imgur.com/a/6lkySKX
kind bough
lol
stage 2 of last week's EDD was awful and I faked my way through it solo with cryo nades
aint no mactera that literally 24 nades can't fix
short charm
I've done that a couple of times. It very much depends on what team you get and the enemy composition. If the others are all down and you gotta deal with a full horde yourself, that number goes up a good bit.
thorny geyser
helping your teammates up ✋
letting them have a rest to inflate your kill count 👌
short charm
Yes. 
grim fjord
How's this weeks EDD in terms of difficulty?
kind bough
fuuuck stage 2
literally endless harassment and low oxygen continues to not be fun
we got 2 grunt swarms in a row lol
past sedge
OMFG some dude closed edd lobby cuz we didnt res him, when he was 5KM under the map
im so done
so close to finish
cinder zenith
hey hey
lovely EDD but why is low-ox refinery not giving ox on the pipelines or smth
sand coyote
screams in bugs attacking through the platform
kind bough
wew lad
lost stage 2 again
iron willed, resupplied, and got downed by iron will anyway even though I was healed
now that leaves a bad taste in my mouth
short charm
Yeah taht bug still exists. I had that happen twice to me two weeks ago. Elite deep dives too, stage 3 both times, about to self-rez on a resupply pod. Went down anywas with health left.
I dont know why that bug is so hard to squish, its been there since the perks were introduced.
sudden mortar
Rock and stone
sudden mortar
define trash
fringe kettle
Probably because others are finding it difficult. Good news for me because I'll probably wind up playing it if it's actually a challenge.
vale falcon
flex 👀
brittle widget
The first 2 levels are decently brutal; stage 1 was a surprise compared to previous weeks and stage 2 is devious with pipelines, low oxygen, and ||the opening few minutes of the mission||
gleaming cave
It's always a sad day when your team gets through the hard part, but slowly collapse a little after the first Swarm.
feral atlas
EDD this weeks goes along much easier if your gunner isn't stupid or isn't throwing
unfortunately, most of them will be
cinder zenith
EDD was v fun but due to O2 it took us a while
feral atlas
Stage 1 should be relativley simple because of haz4 stags
stage 2, it's easy to mess up if your gunner is stupid because the easiest way to clear the welcome party is to pop a shield out the gate and focus down the spitballers
you also need zips to the wells in the pit and in the ceiling if you don't want people to suffocate, or be forced to pop resupplies there
drowsy spruce
is DD stage 1 bugged? i searched everywhere for the 3rd leg of last mini mule
feral atlas
the only other nasty part of EDD-2 is trying to get the pipes into the ceiling well if you don't have a driller
you'll probably have to dig directly to it by hand in that case
fringe kettle
Well positions on stage 2 suck, but it's very doable. EDD was actually a challenge for once and fun.
gleaming cave
Me and the boys in a bunker on Stage 3's Black Box:
Me: "Hey what's that sound?"
Literally everything + Detonator:
I shit you not it looked like an actual nest of spiders
I wish I could've screenshot that horror
delicate geode
Knowing the sounds for digging glyphid and passive bulk are key for bunkering
jade sorrel
knowing that bunkering increases spawn rate of bulks and oppressors is too
hasty prairie
Did you guys experienced a bet-c standing on the drilldozer path on stage 1 right after the 1 refuel?
I looked at USteppin EDD and he didnt seems to encounter it
worthy crag
So what the flying fucking bullshit is 2nd stage edd
gleaming cave
Knowing the sounds for digging glyphid and passive bulk are key for bunkering
@delicate geode The Det spawned AFTER we made the Bunker as we started the Black Box
Literally the only Detonator throughout the entire EDD
Got all the eggs in the place, explored twice over,
hyucker saw some short people in a hole and decided to bully the short people with it's height
delicate geode
Yeah I get ya, just important to recognize your impending doom before it actually cracks open the wall.
gleaming cave
Yeah no I was like
"You guys hear that?" and then I see spidernestpoke.mp4 above us
We weren't far from the surface, but uh, don't bunker on EDD Stage 3
delicate geode
really just dont bunker 90% of the time
gleaming cave
I think bunkering is effective against normal swarms...but Black Box/Uplink? You kinda have to not do that
tropic flame
Stage 2 sucks for edd
gleaming cave
It dooooooooooes
tropic flame
The pumps should have o2 like supplies
gleaming cave
Some guy I met came up with an effective strategy post-Kill Room, though. It includes that slope/overhang next to the Refinery, and Bug Repellent Plats
tropic flame
Oh? Explain? I might switch to repellants and try
I still havent completed it cause wiping out on stage 2
flint zephyr
I thought repellant platforms are the only mod in its tier? Or am I thinking of reduced fall damage?
tropic flame
Reduced fall
Its more plats or repel
Also thoughts on secondary? Breach or pgl? Which oc?
I wanna complete this stupid thing
gleaming cave
I say Breach Cutter; 2 of them can kill a single Spitballer, which there are a lot of.
If you hit them on the crit spot, of course.
tropic flame
LWC?
gleaming cave
Er, speak dumb to me
tropic flame
¯_(ツ)_/¯
gleaming cave
What does LWC mean?
tropic flame
Light weight cases
gleaming cave
Erm, is that an Overclock? Not familiar with that term.
Oh, about that Post-Kill Room strat (after you kill the structures/start the pump sequence)...
So, basically you make a lip on the overhang with the repellant plats, that way no bugs would want to climb over, and you'd have them funneled to the walls or bottom of the slope.
sharp mica
EDD2 feels like Starship Troopers, that cave fucking writhes
brittle widget
yeah, EDD2 blind was not a fun experience on solo Engineer
"I should be safe for a second while I get my bearings"
bonk
worldly vigil
Finally managed to complete a deep dive with my wife (just duo)!
Quick query: Are there usually few extra minerals in Deep dives? I was surprised to find none of the Tites (Uma, Magna, etc) or Condensed Gold during our run. We were hardly thorough, but I usually keep an eye out for em.
visual lake
@worldly vigil no Mins other than gold or nitra or whatever the hulli drops
For the upper pump jack it’s easiet to drill it up . Pubbed it on the first try
We got really lucky though 0 bulks
visual lake
I would say EDD2 is all about a good scout getting in and out fixing pipes
Riding pipes to fix is a good way to diaf
weak oxide
This week's deep dive was probably the hardest iv had yet lol the second dive was nuts how many clutch rezes we needed
wintry geode
light weight clip i guess
junior fossil
I soloed the 2nd stage as a driller, but that was so slow
so many back and forth due to O2
worn badger
This week's edd was so much damn easier
regal vapor
the duality of a dwarf
haughty garden
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heavy oriole
This weeks EDD was pretty straight forward, still took a while just due to mission types, but there was a buttfuckton of nitra. Stage 3 was a nice break.
No mactera plague was nice too.
worthy crag
For EDD2 the start was the only hard part imo
What my buddy and I did was just keep the drop pod for O2 then rush to the refinery when it dropped
silk pebble
yeah their is allot of broods and spitballers out the gate on the second stage of the elite mission. and the swarmer's are totally obnoxious the entire mission.
and the third stage is no big deal.
We put supply drops in near all 3 pump jacks. Their were many solo clutch moments were progress was stalled on the pipe. Allot of ammo was expended for health and abilities.
vale falcon
cripsy
fresh shell
pretty easy EDD this week, no shield disruption or lethal
ill take it
LO2 pretty annoying though
heady sierra
did u complete the deep dive talks
fresh shell
did both yeah
vale falcon
ask Talks then
heady sierra
well hes done it already, ill keep looking I have time
fresh shell
i would do it again later. @ me later in the week if you havent gotten it completed
warped citrus
I did the edd with a group, was p great haha
heady sierra
ok
vale falcon
tadaaaa
storm radish
never done a deep dive, was wondering if there's a group out there to let me run one with them
worthy crag
odds are if you head into #lfg-steam you can probably find some people willing to join ya pretty quick
wraith shard
So I just unlocked Deep Dives yesterday
I know that they reset on a weekly cycle, and I know that it's effectively a string of missions back-to-back with a carried-over inventory n such. Is there any other basic information I need to know before starting to play around with them?
vale falcon
people cant join when when you start
bosco reset his revives each stage
no minerals, gems, machine event, cargo crates and helmets will spawn
wraith shard
Ah, so it's effectively "just the mission"
vague elbow
Exactly, keeps you focused
I still mine the gold though
Oh and the are no secondaries
Both objectives are primaries
vale falcon
if its 2 minimules as secondary, you just have to do those, you dont need to do a salvage
"black boxes" are the box you open on the salvage missions, but you only have to go through 1 chargeup
azure spoke
your own skills that have a mission limit reset each stage as well, such as iron will
also, deep dives are a bit above haz 3, but not quite haz 4. they are fairly easy. Elite are much harder
best to run a few haz 5 or have a team you are comfortale with to do those
wraith shard
Yeah, I figured that EDDs were a big step up
The "Elite" part kinda makes me think that :D
Good to know I don't need to hunt for friggin fossils, though...
vale falcon
10 fossils each rounds, suffer
jade sorrel
Ultra Elite Deep Dives: 2 primaries and a secondary, with 2 negative mutators
S U F F E R
Haunted cave/Low O2 because you're not screwed enough
verbal prairie
does anyone know how to fix the union, I cant join the union...
honest tide
union's down atm due to discord updates, someone's working on it but it's a low priority iirc @verbal prairie
verbal prairie
Thank you
azure spoke
new mutator: high ethanol atmosphere
jade sorrel
we have mactera plague, cave leech cluster, exploder infestation...where's the Q'ronar legion?
jade sorrel
bouncy bois
visual lake
I wish there was glyphid swarm
where they uncap the spawn limit
and everything is XL waves
or dreadnought infestation. Every wave is a dreadnought wave
jade sorrel
bulk detonator infestation: each wave spawns 3-5 bulks
visual lake
more like magma core would be uoh
azure spoke
new biome: Narcoleptic Narrows. Filled with plant pods that, when burst, emit a sleeping agent.
becasue freezing, goo, eletric, and earthquakes are not enough ways to slow a dwarf down
worthy crag
did you intend to put this in #deep-dive-discussion or general or suggestions 👀
worthy crag
fun idea tho
well, maybe fun... or torturous. I can't decide yet
azure spoke
heh, yea
echo aspen
Okay, I just failed the edd for the second time and I can only say that I hate the second stage
for real
wraith shard
What's the strategy when encountering a bulk detonator while establishing the black box uplink?
When it appeared my team's deep dive went to shit.
I tried using shields to get it to back off but everybody was too distracted by other enemies to focus fire or had to leave the bubble in an attempt to kite it away.
daring ether
how much harder are the EDD than regular?
short charm
Depends, since they're both randomized the difficulty can vary quite a bit. For this week, I would say that the EDD is A LOT harder.
fluid tulip
man that second stage beat the crap out us. 😦
plush ravine
EDD is just hazard 5 with mutator and stage 3 being hazard 5.5
And if your random teammates are shit you need to carry the burdens for 3 games straight
plush ravine
Consider ppl will be discussing some of the detail of EDD here, this is probably also easier for you to solo if you're using driller or engi btw
sterile bronze
2nd stage is low 02 refining, and you spawn next to a spitballer with a breeder in the background
not even worth doing with randoms this week, its a shit show
junior fossil
personally I found it easier as engie, due to the faster clearing power, and easier defense on the drilldozer
tight heron
Gunner just needs to pop one shield when you land on stage 2 and you're good to clear the spitballs
Once you get your bearings and drop a couple resupplies around for O2 it's pretty manageable
vapid monolith
Edd is far more doable solo driller