Got to the final part of the EDD, the fuel cells, SOLO, and it there's a bulk detonator.........
@bold gust I just died here... It was so sad 😦
#deep-dive-discussion
void helm
crude knot
@void helm need someone to run it with you?
rotund raptor
EDD anyone?
strong pebble
I mean at least 2 times now I had a bulk spawn so close to fuel cells that it was impossible to stay inside
If you get the Soldier you can use the shield otherwise you are done 😛
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weary spade
Odd that so many had issues with morkite this DD. I cleared it without any issue. Would the fact that I was solo make a difference?
heavy ridge
We found the 1 nugget by the drop pod but we're stuck at 146/150
Whatever we're just abandoning it and running EDD instead 😛
swift hollow
feral atlas
It's the day before the refresh
like, literally 4 hours until it refreshes
most people have already done theirs
harsh steppe
Rock and Refresh!
cloud sentinel
How much time until the new deep dive?
shadow patio
148 Morkite on part 3... i searched for an hour and gave up. This weeks deep Dive claimed my life... out of Boredom
shadow osprey
So i started doing my first deep dive today and i wanted to ask,can you find cargo crate or helmet in the deep dives
tranquil sorrel
No, no machine events or collectables or any craftable materials (except sometimes you can find Huli hoarder). There is just gold and nitra to collect.
shadow osprey
A ok got it
harsh steppe
How much time until the new deep dive?
@cloud sentinel Two hours from now
cloud sentinel
❤️
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quiet mortar
DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Mammoth Covert
Stage 1: 
225 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | 
Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 2: 
7 Aquarqs + 📡 1 Black Box | No Mutators!
Stage 3: 
4 Eggs + 
1 Dreadnought | Low Oxygen
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Empty Caves
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts + 
2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 7 Aquarqs + 1 Dreadnought | No Mutators!
void helm
@quiet mortar Thank you brother. You're doing God's Karl's work!
crude knot
How are the dives this week, anyone done them yet?
proud fulcrum
They're pretty easy
frank shuttle
gross, low oxygen
quiet wyvern
i hate Mactera plague's
gloomy herald
anyone else get a spitballer chillin outside the drop pod on edd stage 2?
proud fulcrum
yes it was funny
gloomy herald
i was tabbed out and rly suprised to come back to that
jovial torrent
Mactera hate my breach cutter. 
astral walrus
My friend started EDD, I wasn't paying attention and thought it was standard DD
Still won though xD
Albeit barely. Didn't quite set up my engie nest well in stage 3, wasn't given time by the team to reset it and ended up nuking myself 2 times in a row
strong pebble
What happens if for example 3 of dwarves are downed but one makes it to the pod?
astral walrus
Only realised when we were done "Wait, that was EDD?"
strong pebble
Can we continue?
rotund raptor
Well, today's EDD was pretty swarmy but nothing like last' weeks.
After months of running them my feeling that gunner carries the team through them is growing
What do you guys think? I mean of course engie and scout help collect nitra to supply bullits and driller helps with tiny shits but overall gunner is the MVP dwarf of EDDs.
frank ore
Can we continue?
@strong pebble yeah but the ded dwarves continue w low health
odd comet
The EDD kinda sucked
Stage 1 shield disruption-in magma core- with two breeders and half a dozen brood nexuses
So much scratch damage in a warning where scratch damage is terrible
Mactera plague is always unpleasant in EDDs
And then a stage 3 PE
proud fulcrum
I didn't find it that bad hh
Maybe we just got lucky
odd comet
How many people did you have?
Because the map spawns do change with number of people, and we went in with 4
gloomy herald
there was still double breeders on solo
lime lance
Anyone wanna deep dive later?
obtuse ether
For a deep dive called "empty caves" it's not very empty
late isle
@rotund raptor I don't agree with that notion even a little bit. Every class has mvp qualities in certain situations, and depending on how the group plays.
barren siren
Elite deep dive was eaaaaasy work
crude knot
I’m in for either dive, just ping or dm me anytime
cobalt dawn
Stage 1 EDD is terrible with randoms that don't talk
crude knot
Most edds are, in my experience it’s new people doing it for the first time
broken bobcat
I feel like it's best to start it yourself, and hang out in the rig for a full team
you can sort of vet them there
and/or explain what the thing is
late isle
Just carried a team in the EDD. 12+ downs for each of them, and I had 14 resurrects and 2 downs (from trying to save teammates lol). That was freaking exhausting...
feral atlas
EDD doesn't look bad. Only difficult mutator is on the first stage.
late isle
Mactera plague can be kind of nasty.
feral atlas
meh; I run a min max engi build when I actually care about winning the EDD in one go
triple line BC, or most airburst pgl builds, will 1 or 2 shot your average mactera gank squad
it's not difficult, but it does rely on a single player being aware
late isle
Yeah, I just carried with a similar loadout on my engineer. Still had teammates getting wrecked by mactera quite a bit.
feral atlas
in that case, I stop caring about them
I don't put much investment in player controlled meatshields; they at least still keep mactera aggro while dead
late isle
lol
feral atlas
If you're playing carry engi, your survival matters more than everybody else's
back when the ghost bulk camped players, it would be legit easier to tell noobs to just die and have the ghost camp them
because they'll be taking the ghost out of action
in those sorts of teams, as long as the carry survives and has enough time and ammo to stablize the situation, quite honestly whatever happens to the rest of the team doens't matter
late isle
Well it's not how I prefer to play. It was genuinely a pain my ass for 50 minutes.
feral atlas
When it comes to pubs, I personally believe it's better to be machiavellian and win in one go, than to be the nice player that takes risks and runs the possibility of getting sent back to the lobby screen in the middle of stage 3. It's how I prevent myself from getting burnt out too quickly.
Or going insane.
heavy oriole
Been a while since we’ve played, but for some reason we had more challenge on stage 1 than any of the other stages on the EDD. Shield disruption with the terrain effects from magma core is just annoying.
crude knot
^^^^^
quasi olive
coming from a new player, if you don't want to play with new players why don't you form a team before going in? I understand when i am kicked in lobby when i see players 200+ player levels higher than me. or if team description says only promoted or gold level or higher i don't bother joining as i know they don't want me in there. its not like there are not a limited number of people playing as game is fairly well played. Game was released out of early access so you have to expect an influx of new players, its not your old game of veterans anymore, at least for awhile.
crude knot
@quasi olive IMO, it’s less of being mad at new players (because for the most part, I love playing with new players and helping), and it being more of a “sick of being attacked for playing the game”. If soemone gets downed right at the end, sometimes it’s not possible to get to them in time, and getting cursed out is draining to say the least. I have no issue teaching, but some don’t want to deal with repeated leeching or carries.
A lot of people (new play and Ogs) form teams or play solo, while a smaller portion PUG everything. It’s an interesting dynamic that I don’t get to see often in games, and I’m excited to see where it goes, but a more in-depth or optional “advanced” tutorial for each class might help close the gap that is felt between some players
cinder wasp
what's the black box objective
astral walrus
You know how you protect a fuel cell in salvage? It's basically that
Just not actually a salvage mission
cinder wasp
ok
pallid shoal
How can I find a group for the EDD? I did the basic DD and had a blast with randoms. A little surprised at the lack of modifiers. Did the EDD have a bunch of mutators?
peak glacier
2/3
crude knot
@pallid shoal missions increase in difficulty. DD starts lower than edd, so it’s stronger enemies and longer caves, that sort of difference
limber valley
the black box location in stage 2 is in the most inconvenient location
frail zodiac
youre around 15 years late for that
versed willow
EDD & DD this week.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322078639237890049/754225370080870410/unknown.png
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stark token
failing edd on last step of stage 3 is agony
knotty rampart
indeed
amber junco
Postmortem after such a failed EDD attempt:
Stage 1 is bullshit you have to clench your teeth through.
Stage 2 is doable, stockpile your nitra.
Stage 3 is stupid; don't fight in the natural arena in front of the dreadnought egg as it'll crack open with earthquakes mid-fight, and for the love of Karl's beard please engage the egg early AND wait until right after an attackwave to not end up having it happen mid-fight.
deft bloom
Did anyone else have a Hoarder spawn right in the drop pod's face on DD part 2?
pliant girder
Yes, spawns are consistent for everyone. Some things don't spawn depending on how big the party is though.
brisk hamlet
what is deep dive
amber junco
If you gotta ask, you can't get it yet.
proud fulcrum
A 3-stage mission where if you fail you have to start from stage 1 again. You get rewards from each stage. They open up after your first promotion
dusky gull
what difficulty is an elite deep dive?
rich arch
stage 1: hazard 4,5 . stage 2: hazard 5. stage3: hazard 5,5
ebon heart
crude knot
still need people @ebon heart ?
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clever inlet
I play DD solo as a scout and damn how do I complete this week's stage 2 black box recovery >< after fixing the thing, there are just IMPOSSIBLE amount of spiders appearing, I tried putting dispensers nearby and just grappling around trying to kill them all, but I just can't complete triangulation in time, I'm not able to survive inside the circle when there are so many bugs that continue coming.
I escaped and tried to complete triangulation from the start 3 times, but it was the same, for the fourth time glyphids detonator came inside the circle and I just fricking gave up
I'm hella confused, never encountered such a dumb problem after 100+ hrs playing. Any advices from badass solo players about what to do with it?
heavy oriole
@clever inlet
Use Iron Will to get some free time in the zone, use the resupply to revive.
bright dagger
Yeah not much else to do but that, scout is the worst for holding ground.
carmine monolith
god the last mission on the elite ruined us
flint venture
amber junco
First stage is a meme. No shields dreadnought snuggling in lavacave with added chip damage from loads of critterspawners (breeders+hives). Last stage is the killer; dreadnought area will crack open mid-combat so don't fight there, and in hindsight would advise to get the dreadnought done with asap, preferably immediately after the first attackwave before rushing the aquarcs.
(Talking EDD here. DD is pretty doable.)
warped citrus
I did the edd solo and at the end of the last mission I got some pretty garbage luck with a web spitter + acid spitter hitting me while fighting the dread then a swarm spawned Lol
got the weapon OC which is what I was mainly going for but damn, was close to soloing it as driller
pale heron
What's a deep dive anyways?
warped berry
@pale heron scroll up
pale heron
:/
warped berry
@flint venture define fun 😂 magma core + shield disruption + dreadnoughts, hell yeah it’s fun! I started a game and waited for 3 randos to join and we did it first try, stage 3 by the skin of our teeth though that was a bloody battle.
pale heron
yes very helpful
warped berry
A 3-stage mission where if you fail you have to start from stage 1 again. You get rewards from each stage. They open up after your first promotion
@proud fulcrum @pale heron what do you mean? Literally scroll up a little and this is the answer.
warped berry
EDD: Get your drillers to terraform to their hearts content as the terrain is awful. Take down pillars for better line of sight, make tons of stairs, expand out areas etc. C4 on a volcano will take care of it. Engi can platform the holes in the ground.
@clever inlet might help to get slayer stout or skull crusher ale for more melee damage, IFG or cryo nades.
heavy oriole
That EDD was the first time I’ve seen that stage 1 was significantly harder than all the other stages
we had 2 downs from feet turning into bacon 🥓
quasi blaze
Remember the fallen.
heavy oriole
It’s funny to think of someone irl just stepping on a small patch of hot coals, and they decide they’re going to pass out face first on it...
lofty wing
my group got wiped on stage 3 at the tunnel with a high drop
proud fulcrum
Owch
rancid rapids
When does the EDD reset?
frail zodiac
thursday
rancid rapids
Thanks
pliant girder
This one is hard. Mine as much nitra as you can.
warped citrus
^
Specially the first 2 missions honestly
the third EDD has most the nitra in the ceiling
inland shale
So, I tried to do a Solo Deep Dive, and...
It went about as well as you'd expect.
obsidian gorge
yea, they aren't that bad as one would expect
amber junco
Regular deepdive solo should be doable enough at some point. EDD solo is for the more try-hard types who enjoy gaming on the edges of what the game mechanics let you do with shenanigans. If you enjoy that, more power to you. I don't.
wraith shard
sorry wrong channel
plush wind
for dd always do dread first on pe maps
hollow summit
someone please save me from this freakishly annoying first stage of this week's EDD
blissful hull
no
wraith shard
well managed to get through the EDD with a 3 man, High fives all around!
warped berry
Great job! This week’s EDD was doable but definitely made me laugh in relief at the end.
full arrow
Well, EDDs are pretty doable solo if you're playing on haz4 regularly. You usually get to start with more nitra than you would in a regular mission anyway, on the 2nd/3rd stage
You will have to be smart about it. Missions with endless waves like Mining/Point Extract it's just best to hurry up and get it over with ASAP
For example if the PE mission has a dread elimination do it first and do it fast
With mining expedition keep an eye on swarms, if you also have to kill a dread and it's been a while since the last swarm maybe wait for the swarm somewhere away from the cocoon and fight it there, then activate the dread
I think most of the difficulty in the EDD comes from having to minimize risks and maximize advantages.
I like to be methodical for EDDs, not going too fast but definitely not taking unnecessary risks. And tailor your loadout to the mission biome/objectives.
Also engi is basically always good no matter what the biome or mission. Yes, gunner might be better at moving the aquarks or the driller might get you out of the mining expedition faster, but engineer can handle anything well enough with a decent mod/OC loadout and some platform gun practice, and there's no better dwarf for deleting both big beasties and big mobs
I've done most of the EDDs i completed with solo scout actually, but getting a big swarm on haz 5.5 can take a loooooooong time to put down and a slip-up is easy to make
static hound
every week, EDD is either hard or easy
full arrow
If the swarm spawns as you open the dread cocoon and 2 bulks show up, it's a wipe. Other times no problem. Sometimes the exit pod spawns in rocks and the scout has to pickaxe his way through to the door and you die 3 times. Gotta love rng
Oh and of course i try to do EDDs with red rock blaster beers
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crude knot
Oop I still need to run dives this week
full arrow
so, EDD wasn't super hard, tons of nitra everywhere in the first 2 rounds... but then round 3 i accidentally fell down a hole 20m from the pod and died twice while climbing back up.
barely survived that one. was very happy i used the rocky mountain beer
dusky gull
@full arrow what does rocky mountain do
proud fulcrum
rocky mountain reduces fall damage iirc
fringe kettle
rocky mountain reduces the required hits to break terrain to 1
somber jacinth
Tunnel Rat reduces fall damage.
proud fulcrum
i always get them mixed up, sorry
somber jacinth
its all good man.
sometimes we all have one too many Oily Oafs or Glyphid Slammers
proud fulcrum
blackout stout 😔
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wraith shard
Whats the edd mission’s lookin like
viscid river
Easy, but be ready for mactera plague on stage 2
quiet wyvern
we shall see
clever shadow
anyone down for deep dives?
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lethal goblet
How do you join a faction?
quiet mortar
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quiet mortar
Ah ok good
Now for the Deep Dives
DEEP DIVE
Region: Glacial Strata | Code Name: Bloody Killing
Stage 1: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 1 Dreadnought | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 250 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Exploder Infestation!
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + 150 Morkite | No Mutators!
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Loaded Nightfall
Stage 1: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 2 10 Aquarqs + 📡 1 Black Box | Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | No Mutators!
wraith shard
Hola, alguien que hable español? 🙂
full arrow
OOF. this is looking to be a tough week so far 😐
modern adder
Stage 2 edd is 10 aquarqs, black box and mactera plague
wise aspen
Time for Mr. Freeze
full arrow
@quiet mortar ty commented on the spreadsheet, its being added by the person who maintains it
@steady schooner i found the username of the person who maintains the spreadsheet, but it's their google name; not sure they're on the discord
so I won't post it here
quiet mortar
Course, always trying to be useful 🙂
sleek forum
Anyone feel like helping me with the regular Deep Dive? Send me a DM
stone lily
Lethal enemies uplink defense is always nice. Should be fun.
full arrow
man lethal enemies uplink, mactera aquark + black box, and haz 5.5 mining expedition.
do not like. :{
at least it's not magma core.
flat terrace
Stage 3 of DD is a friggin big map, make sure to bring a gunner, driller & scout
full arrow
thanks for the tip
flat terrace
no probs
random lagoon
@full arrow dont worry 3rd stage is relatively easy and can be cleared normaly with 1 swarm, also black box appears right off the bat
full arrow
and anomalies are absent again
frigid garnet
Bug burn v.s freezer boxs
(New)Whats better for the deep dives ?
tropic flame
I use both
heavy oriole
Ooo, stage 2 EDD looks interesting
Hopefully this EDD spices up things a bit, the last 4 have been w/e
@tulip sequoia
winged axle
Hola, alguien que hable español? 🙂
@wraith shard presente
digital elk
careful when you are going back at second stage DD
we nearly lost everything to a bulk that spawn in the narrow cave
gloomy herald
Psa to run iron will
heavy oriole
@thorny geyser what stage was the hardest for you?
Wanna get myself hyped up for it
proud fulcrum
Stage 2 is pretty hard we found, though our driller crashed or something so we lost them...
||black box is in a small room at the end of a tunnel, we ran out of ammo and barely got out, would recommend doing before the aquarqs||
heavy oriole
Doing black box after aquarks is a major no no haha
Unless you’re speed running and want to use the black box timer during the extraction evacuation timer
mental valley
2 black box secondaries imo makes the deep dive considerably easier.
Somewhat offset by Mactera on a PE, since those are almost always in open areas that make the mactera more difficult to deal with.
prisma fulcrum
Any info on future content ?
prisma fulcrum
@gloomy herald Thank you, egg.
pallid wigeon
is it possible a deep dive will not have enough morkite?
we are one the last leg and we need 3 morkite and have gone over the whole thing like 5 times
digital elk
yeah on stage 2 its hard to find but we managed to find them
fringe kettle
it's supposed to have more than enough
the regular dive on sandblasted a couple weeks ago had an issue where it barely generated enough.
if enough people comment on the lack of morkite, I'll have a look and see what I can find
pallid wigeon
Yea its just annoying that we literally need 3 and we'd beat it lol and its my bros first one to boot 😄
lilac jungle
could be a problem if the driller uses the EPC to mine the morkite. if there is just a tiny chunk on the ground somewhere its easy to miss
pallid wigeon
not that we can find I am actually getting nauseous we've been looking for about 20 mins
lol
We did end up having to abort though
FWIW
been in the regular deep dive 2h 13 mins and I am getting dizzy
oddly enough I found scraps to where it said I had 1 twice, tried to put it in and it just sits at 147/150
can molly glitch and not take any more?
naive creek
Did the deep dives reset or its tomorrow?
naive creek
oh nice
clever shadow
Any Deep Divers up??
vague elbow
oddly enough I found scraps to where it said I had 1 twice, tried to put it in and it just sits at 147/150
There's rounding errors with chunks, which is why mining with your pick is considered better even though there's no official difference between picks and terrain destruction/Bosco
Beer buffs notwithstanding
odd comet
@heavy oriole You can't run the black box at the same time as extraction. You have to have all your objectives completed before you can extract in Deep Dives.
heavy oriole
@odd comet oh never mind then! Thanks for the correction
mystic lagoon
frigid yarrow
Same Here yesterday
I saw a lot of person havin the same problème... I had to quit the DD after 30min looking for 2 more morkite to close the dive
eternal kindle
it rounds up. so if you have .2 morkite on you. it will tell you you have 1
warm parcel
WHERE IS THE SECRET MORKITE ON STAGE 3!
atomic widget
I found 3 veins of morkite on the walls of the large inner section
if that helps
oh wait thats stage 2 woops
dont mind me im being dumb
north dew
when you reach a cave with a dirt wall with nothign behind, zoom- the map, you'll see 2 chunk of cave far i nthe ice
dig here
warm parcel
@north dew is that near the start?
north dew
nah, just follow the caves, it's a cave that look like a dead end
in fact the cave jsut before have an entrance to thoses 2chunks, but it's very hard to find
warm parcel
@north dew how far down in stage 3? a little? a lot?
north dew
i dont remember how many caves
warm parcel
?
north dew
all i know we were missing 10 morkite
fringe kettle
this is stage 3 of the regular deep dive?
warm parcel
yes! you got info?
fringe kettle
nope, haven't played it yet. I'll probably deal with it tomorrow or Sunday and see if it's a spawning issue or if the morkite is just hiding.
dim trellis
ppl complained there wasnt a lot of morkite on stage 3 but a lot of it was just at dead ends nearby
cyan saddle
Can someone explain to me how it's okay to get 5 engineer matrix cores in a row?
rich arch
+1 to start EDD, check in game lobby
zinc coral
lots of nitra at this DD. ended up getting 1k+ resources mined as scout. i didnt mine any gold myself, but my team somehow got 700+ gold, would've probably got more if i did mine them
dusky oxide
Elite Deep Dive - Pod 21 - Chillin
vagrant lark
148/150 morkite
Normal deep dive
We’ve searched the whole cave
Has anybody actually completed it?
spice crown
I've finished it yeah
I don't know if ore locations are randomized but check the scanner for small tunnels which branch off
Found the last five in a tiny hole off of the bottom of the cave
normal radish
@cyan saddle Im not sure haha, that seems to happen to a lot of people, I try to re load the game every time I get a core...also a fellow Once?😳
tardy quiver
What's up with people missing morkite on DD?
gloomy herald
I had zero problem with morkite
tardy quiver
Same, so I'm genuinely confused
full arrow
it's the 3rd mission, it's the same thing as last week. secondary objective morkite being too rare
i had dark morkite and i had 157 at the end
(150 + 1 more chunk of 6.7)
stone lily
there's more than enough morkite in the mission, at least 200. Some of it is in unusual cave generation.
basically, if you have an experienced driller who often uses the terrain scanner, you should have no issues.
reef grotto
we had a bug in EDD today on stage 2: a mactera grabber took me and... suddenly I was spawned in the drop pod place (the beginning of the mission) far away from the tunnel where I was with my teammates!
Another one from our team was captured through the wall (it is an old bug) and teleported to the ground above the tunnel %)
waxen mist
just completed the normal DD
what's everyone complaining about? i got all the morkite without dark morkite without any problems
sure, the layout of the cave is a mess but it's nothing you couldn't handle with a scout or an engi
full arrow
EDD finished 😄 went better than expected but then I had my ass carried. i may have been slightly inebriated
pallid wigeon
is there any reason you could not rejoin a deep dive you were in (I am friends with the person via xbox)
dim trellis
rejoining a deep dive and the following look on your team's faces that you came back
pls devs pls
wraith vapor
imagine being one hour in stage 2 since the seed is so bad ahahahahahahahahaa i fucking lost my mind
ik this is my firsttime writing here but mmmmmmmh
thorny geyser
ive heard about how people spend like 1 and a half hours on this EDD, what gives yo?
we did it in 45 minutes
late isle
@thorny geyser Too much time spent dawdling on stage 2?
warped berry
Just mostly soloed EDD as an engi because 2 people left on stage 1 and another left at start of stage 2. Wimps. Rock and stone!!! Easy this week.
No issues with morkite on DD or EDD. Plenty to go around.
clever shadow
anyone for some DDs?
proud fulcrum
has everyone had trouble with this week's edd lv2? i didn't at all
morkite wise, I mean
clever shadow
Need a Driller for DDs in pod 5
winged smelt
des francais pour une partie ?
hot echo
frail zodiac
@winged smelt #fan-communities
amber junco
That's 2/2 attempts at EDD failed. 2nd stage keeps seeing my teams overwhelmed.
Starting to get annoyed.
amber junco
So far it goes south on both tries when black box defense coincides with an attackwave or gets followed up by one shortly after. We'd be low on health after the defense and just get picked off by the next attackwave that spawns a bit too regularly there.
I'm with random teams so far and to say it's been incohesive is an understatement.
And once players start dropping, getting them back on their feet without dying is all but impossible with those waves coming in with 100+ bugs each wave.
modern violet
Ahh yeah. My team and I 3-man every week and that was where we wiped this week. 2nd attempt our driller made some space behind the black box and it made it easier. We had a wave just before we started our black box and we were able to finish it without another spawning right after.
It's definitely easier when you know the playstyles of who you're with.
amber junco
The people who's playstyle I know... I think one just made it to their first bronze star last week. -_- So no way in Hoxxes that they're ready for EDD.
modern violet
lol my team and I are only first bronze stars.
We did our first EDD as soon as we could. It's less about skill and more about knowing your role
So if you feel comfortable telling them the role they should be filling I think it may be easier, but th'ats not always fun to do either.
where are you located/role do you play? I may hit you up with some invites sometime.
amber junco
Dutch, and I play mostly gunner/engi myself. Occasionally backfill with scout, but refuse driller. I absolutely detest the feel of all of his weapons.
modern violet
I understand. As a driller main I feel I should use his flamethrower in more situations, but I ahte the feel of it. I don't know what it is.
Ahh, yeah we're Central/East US
amber junco
Europe has a pretty major handicap in language barriers. Half the people out there either don't speak english or have accents thick enough to make it intelligible if it's mixed with weaponfire.
Also I'm not sure what it is but with DD/EDD especially I'm having pretty regular moments of lag spikes or rubberbanding, especially with scout grappling.
modern violet
I haven't tried any DD/EDD without voice comms, but maybe pinging is enough?
amber junco
One can try, but unreliable results usually.
Oh well. Will swap to something else. I tend to not be very frustration-proof after a failed run.
stoic geyser
anyone able to tell me if the lost pack thing is still going?
burnt forge
Hello is there a help channel in this discord?
next pebble
depends on what you need
general gameplay advice can be gotten in #drg-chat , if you're experiencing a gameplay bug, there's #bug-discussion
burnt forge
Need help with the sound coming out of the left side in the game
next pebble
that'd be something to ask about in #bug-discussion
burnt forge
oh ok thanks
thorny geyser
id say that gunner with spot-on target priorities is a massive boon for second stage
we had great gunner with minigun and cluster grenades wrecking havoc in that small arena before black box
that being said, almost everyone was stocked up on explosives, PGL, satchels, HE grenades even
when in doubt, blow it up
wraith shard
I just completed EDD on first try with random team
On first day
Like I usually do
thorny geyser
i got it done with 2 greenbeards and one greybeard driller
wraith shard
You just 
green beards untill you find at least three other lvl 100+ dwarfs for better chances
wraith shard
I always do it for EDD, chances are high they won't be performing good enough for it, and neither of us will enjoy it
dim trellis
bunker the blackbox
just call a resupply in your bunker , patch the hole it made, and get nice and cozy
vague elbow
3 bulks would like to have a word with you bunkering lads
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warm parcel
anyone know where the morkite is on stage 3?
crude knot
look for side tunnels
rapid cairn
@velvet musk
urban ocean
I was on the last mission to find morkite I found 146/150 and spent a whole hour trying to find 3 morkite but was never found I quit the deep dive cause I was frustrated. They need to add more than enough morkite at the bottom of the cave
upbeat whale
i just unlocked Deep Dives and decided to try it solo...
holy crap this is stressful AF lol
im doing it as a scout
first part was really tough staying inside that circle, unable to use my grappling hook..
and 2nd part was reaaaly confusing, that map was weird
can i pause this and continue part 3 tomorrow?
upbeat whale
i maed it Solo game
so i dont think anyone can join hehe
i just need 26 more Morkite and 1 egg
i did it 😎
so stressful though, why didnt i just wait for my friends lmao
1h34min 😅
late isle
Solo EDD with a scout is kind of rough.
clever shadow
anyone for a EDD??? im a gunner tag me
wicked frigate
@clever shadow I could, play all but scout
clever shadow
@wicked frigate still on?
wicked frigate
could come back on in a few
visual lake
Is this weeks EDD even soloable ?
With the macta plague and the super far aquaros it seems an exercise in frustration
late isle
I’m sure it is, but it’s not something I’m going to try.
upbeat whale
anyone take me to my first-ever EDD? 🙂
i solo'd my first ever DD last night, but thats like Haz 3-3.5 right?
upbeat whale
remind me pls
DD and EDD difficulty is what
3->3.5->3.5 for DD and 3.5->4->4.5 for EDD?
leaden geode
3>4>5 DD 3.5>4.5>5.5 for EDD
upbeat whale
3>4>5 for DD? no way, it was hella easy, i solo'd it
i usually struggle to do 4 and 5 is impossible..
frail zodiac
3 3.5 3.5 and 4.5 5 5.5
frank ore
is this weeks dd or edd that have not enough morkite?
robust sedge
Afaik yea just grab the beer for it
hollow wasp
I think this week is fine, last week had a problem?
heavy oriole
Both weeks have trouble, I used dark morkite so didn’t matter
visual lake
Last week was bad this week is fine
Just the location of the last bit on EDD3 just be careful when you deposit it due to completion wave
We got 8 shell backs in a tight tunnel and things got kinda dicey
plush storm
Shotgun or smg for engineer?
wooden pumice
Up to preference, though SMG has the advantage over shotgun in the ammo department
pallid shoal
Elite deep dive? Gt is Eryss Akkou
muted niche
Never deep dived here, so regular missions have 1-5 difficulty, about how hard are deep dive, and elite deep dive?
obsidian gorge
haz 3 - 3.5 - 3.5 for Regular
haz 4.5 - 5 - 5.5 for Elite
warped berry
@visual lake I did solo with engi. Bosco is your best friend.
muted niche
Thanks Omega, it says they change weekly, are theyre a certain number of attempts?
seems like a long ordeal solo
obsidian gorge
do as many attempts as you want, you only get the rewards once though, until they reset
(Exp / Credits will behave just like regular missions, but no big reason to redo it for those)
warped berry
I think it was fine solo, kinda easier to me. Bosco is so amazing at getting minerals and aquarqs that sometimes I prefer it.
I used Rocky Mountain beer, was just what’s on tap, and it helped me out a bunch
acoustic isle
hi i was wondering witch union to join any one got any idears??
warped berry
@acoustic isle wrong channel -> #interplanetary-miners-union
acoustic isle
oops sorry
fringe kettle
that channel is isn't accessible unless they're already a member
pick whichever chapter sounds coolest to you
obsidian gorge
same as the people you play with , or that, going for color / symbol is valid too
soft roost
had an issue with the deep dive today - last level, couldn't find enough morkite.
weak crown
Yea there is far more than enough morkite just gotta look good
static swallow
steady narwhal
I don't think there's enough morkite on the xbox version
Went into it twice, once with a friend, couldn't get closer than 3 short
It's interesting that the steam version has a different cave. Up until now I assumed deep dives were the same across platforms. But I looked up a video to try and retrace somebody's steps to the morkite, and they just had an entirely different cave
upbeat whale
man i just got the game this week and solo'd the DD
but the EDD is insane... the first part was really easy but in the 2nd part we weren't even able to leave the drop pod lmao, just getting swarmed at spawn
need to get carried 😅
dim trellis
don’t you just love mactera welcoming parties 💕
proud fulcrum
yes
harsh steppe
@upbeat whale that’s one fast promotion!
tame verge
Do you need dark morkite to finish the normal deep dive
obsidian gorge
ha
tame verge
someone told me it was like last weeks I have no idea if it was true or not
odd comet
Nope
Just some good eyes
Everyone sees one dirt wall that loops back on itself and assumes that's the end of the cave
But there's a second dirt wall on a ledge near by
Somehow people keep missing it
upbeat whale
yeah im at 90 hours played already...
in fact i promoted 3 characters already and 2 missions away from promoting the last one 😂
for people who like to grind there's probably not enough things to grind... but im a bad example cause i have thousands of hours in POE, Warframe, Destiny 2, etc
visual lake
well after seeing that <20min vid for this weeks EDD I feel like i need to go practice somemore lol
upbeat whale
around 1k in D2, 1k in WF, 10k in POE, 10k in diablo 2 😓
upbeat whale
playing since 2013 though
soft roost
Tried the regular deep dive again - Xbox/Windows version. 148 Morkite just like last time.
tame verge
Do we need dark morkite for the dive?
mint zodiac
No. It should be all doable with what the game gives you.
tame verge
just needed to use my eyes
mint zodiac
DD second stage is just really weird. There's a lot of morkite on high walls and tunnels to the next room blocked with odd tunnels.
tame verge
oh I more meant on stage 3
We had like 128 and I was getting flash backs to last week
harsh steppe
Should have 240~
ionic chasm
whats the difference btw regular and elite?
burnt sandal
I finished the DD yesterday with no morkite problem. Gotta look around better.
whats the difference btw regular and elite?
@ionic chasm difficulty
worthy crag
burnt sandal
It's exactly that yeah
heavy ridge
god EDD stage 2 is insane
warped citrus
So the stage 2 EDD is so nuts that the amount of macteras that spawned were causing the grunts to despawn lmao
dim trellis
run like hell to the mining rig
also 1 scout cryo nade just poofs macteras out of the air
tardy sage
where is the blackbox in EDD stage 2? im having a hell uva time trying to find it
dim trellis
facing the escape button of the mining rig, light up the upper left — you’ll see a cavern that leads to the BB
might have slightly pulled that out of my rear
tardy sage
aiight. ill try again -- ive run the mission twice now just trying to find the dang BB. i must be blind . i swear ive run around the whole cavern so many times now ;_;
wraith shard
@vast crag Normal deep dives aren't so hard but with elite deep dives you need to take your time and plan things accordingly, also make sure every class fills their role
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robust sedge
Gimme those matrix cores, Gas Rerouting or Compact Ammo would be nice lol
red hound
@ popchip you can use these at "machine events" (will randomly appear during a mission) and you can choose what to do with them (to a certain degree). hope that helps
lyric current
ah ok thanks
low bolt
@lyric current I had a matrix core and did not even know it. In a mission we found a hidden machine into which I could insert the core, it then provided a virtual UI to select a class/weapon (you just select the class, the weapon choice seemed to be fixed). I selected Engineer and it gave me an overclock for my secondary that makes the grenade explosions bounce allies far into the air. I am not sure where I got the matrix core from, possibly a weekly mission reward?
lyric current
yeah i had it answered already and found the shard to make use of the blank matrix core
matrix cores would be from deep dives or core breaches i think? dunno havent done the last one yet
low bolt
so was that thing part of an event? I don't recall if we had to do something first
Oh I think maybe it was the Tritilyte event, we had so much going on during those runs it's all blurred together now hehe
lyric current
its a tritilyte shard event
low bolt
Yup I must have got it from the core breach because I had just completed that set of missions.
soft roost
Try #3 regular DD on Xbox/Windows. Scout, Engineer, Driller. 6 eggs, 148/150 Morkite on lvl 3. We dug extra tunnels from the center across the map, we kited bulks to blow up areas, we even ignored nitra and gold, focusing platforms on only morkite extraction. We eventually aborted the mission after the 3rd bulk.
I finished the DD yesterday with no morkite problem. Gotta look around better.
@burnt sandal you are on Steam. Different map.
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warped berry
Not much time left so if anyone needs help for dives give me a shout (AUS/NZ region).
dim trellis
magma biome anyone
ripe hound
Doing my first deep dive right now and there is no button to press om Molly once I've restored all the mules in stage 1. Do I need to do the secondary objective as well in deep dives or is this bugged for me?
wooden pumice
You need to complete both objectives to complete the Stage
ripe hound
Ok, thanks
wooden pumice
Once a week
vocal bolt
Ah, thanks
vast crag
Dvamain apologizes to the 3 Dwarves he got DC'd with... my net has gone past the point of no return
my mom is probably loading 1000tabs on her dying macbook now
is it normal for Deep Dives to demand more bandwidth?
the server was at my own country...
hollow wasp
@vast crag It's P2P, so whoever hosted it, was the 'server'. If your internet is prone to regular DCs, then try letting someone else host, so you can attempt to reconnect.
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quiet mortar
DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Weeping Mork
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen
Stage 2: 7 Aquarqs + 📡 1 Black Box | Critical Weakness Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 150 Morkite | No Mutators!
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Meek Bottom
Stage 1: 200 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 6 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Exploder Infestation!
hollow wasp
Oh hey, Magma Core and Shield Disruption - again...
dim trellis
ig which dev lobby is it tracking
quiet mortar
I follow the Dev Streams yeah. Makes my job easier, does mean I have to hope someone posts the Elite though.
tropic flame
That magma core looks like a pain
But i got bingo and called it with shield disruption
heavy oriole
Heavy on black boxes again, this one looks pretty tough
quiet mortar
Deep Dives have been rather into Salvage lately too lol
flint zephyr
Seems like every EDD has shield disruption and/or mactera plague the last several weeks.
quaint silo
If you’ve got an engineer, have em make a platform ceiling over the black box on EDD stage two
red hound
i think endgame meta should be: you are karl and have a praetorian as yer beast
sorry for typoes
robust sedge
I like hosting, the issue is I'm in Canada so if you're west US or European I can't really do anything about that
But for most of central/eastern US it should be fine
Fiber is life ❤️
Anybody find hidden gear in the deep dives yet?
I just kinda blew through the elite one for my core
Those mods are somethin' else
vague elbow
Hidden gear, minerals, and machine events are disabled for deep dives. Keeps you focused on your objectives
robust sedge
Good to know
dim trellis
edd is wild you think ur gonna run out of health all the damn time
feral atlas
I finished the EDD. Wasn't special tbh.
vocal bolt
How hard are EDDs solo?
upbeat whale
man the EDD is hard af ;x
i did the 1st stage with Scout and aborted lol
1st stage is shield disruption with magma craps
2nd is mactera...
wraith shard
If you can do hazard 5 solo missions then you can solo EDDs.
vocal bolt
Ah
Haz 5's a bit too much for me right now
I guess I'll see if I can find a friend to drag along
naive creek
this EDD was pretty easy, only the mactera plague stage was a bit hard
idk how but we melted in like 15 seconds the dreads
feral atlas
EDDs in general are easier than normal haz5 missions. If you can handle Haz5 without folding like a wet noodle, you can handle EDDs.
robust sedge
Mactera Plague? All you need are Cryo Grenades and more Nitra
Alternatively, bring Cryo gun as driller so you're not limited to 4 freezes
opaque zealot
damn. three failed attempts to do edd in teams of four, and i did it solo engi on the first try. now i really consider soloing an option
steady narwhal
You can solo just about anything as long as your dancing skills are good enough
Electric bullets on Bosco 👌
opaque zealot
Bosco is the best 
pastel depot
uh
tropic flame
EDD wasn't all that special. I just dislike getting Shield disruption, Mactera plague every week
dim trellis
magma isnt that hard after all
hollow wasp
Now do it pickaxe only.
wraith shard
best 3 passive perks in your opinion?
tall matrix
vampire, born ready, last one is a tie between unstoppable and elemental insulation. if you use iron will, the last one would be resupplier.
oblique jungle
:C
heavy oriole
- Resupplier
- Sweet Tooth
- Deep pockets (but not by far), but the rest is a Toss up that can compete with it in the right situations. At this point the circumstances of your build will dictate this slot. Born ready is ok if you don’t use animation cancel to reload, also great to make sure you’re not caught in a tricky reload situation on a dread even with anim cancel. Veteran depositor is good if you’re not a scout (good for scout speed runners tho) and not on a salvage mission. Strong arm is decent if you lack a scout. Vampire is good if you’re a cryo driller, or bad at timing your iron wills.
heavy oriole
Why Resupplier?
Getting more per resupply helps you and your team preserve Resupplies. Also, having that much time reduced for getting ammo+hp is often hyper critical in bad situations. Gunner has a shield up? Running iron will? Borderline screwed in a machine event? Resupplier will get you that much more time to get that vital hp+ammo
Why sweet tooth?
Getting more per red sugar helps you and your team preserve red sugar. You also get a speed buff in potentially another hyper critical situation, and more hp in general. Be conscientious though in telling the scout to please take the ceiling red sugar if they are being a lazy bum and getting it from the ground floor first. Also it’s a good idea to keep red sugar preserved in critical objective areas, and walks a distance to get a different one rather than consume it out of convenience. Always leave a stub on the bottom for someone to proc their Sweet Tooth speed buff, or to proc iron will revive.
Why Deep Pockets?
It saves you 2 minutes+ per mission, this means less waves, less risk, and a better speed run time if that’s what you’re into. It also means less trips to a wall that potentially has mobs.
warped berry
Just done EDD 1st try, team of 3 - gunner, driller, engi. Just annoying AF to have shield disruption and magma core again and things got dicey once or twice but otherwise its ok. Keep moving fast and get all the nitra, you'll need it.
wraith shard
@heavy oriole thanks comerade 
odd comet
Thorns is pretty nice too though. It helps clear stray swarmers when you're busy with bigger targets, and drops a surprising amount of grunts
Especially if have have a lot of area damage, so there's lots of injured grunts running around
frank ore
thorns born ready and vampire when paired with iron will
vague elbow
The only issue with thorns and vamp is all the times a wounded grunt will survive your pick just to kill itself on your thorns out of spite
frank ore
lmao true it happens
kind bough
EDD is killing me, I'm still not good enough to really swing it
I cleared the first stage solo but mactera plague just walled me hard, I can't deal with it lol
stone lily
Each class and weapon build has a different way of dealing with mactera waves safely and efficiently. However, all classes require understanding of the projectile mechanics of mactera if you plan on fighting them in the open
For the most part, it's important to be around 10+ meters from the mactera and to move perpendicular to their position to avoid their shots.
Or to utilize cover
Easiest builds to deal with mactera are definitely cryo driller and gunner. Hardest is probably flamer driller
kind bough
that makes sense
I've been using cryo grenades to alt+f4 huge clouds of them, but I made a mistake and got caught out on the black box with no grenades
though I wasn't aware until it was already too late that failing the black box doesn't fail the mission like salvage objectives do in non-DD environments
probably would've been a better play to just cut my losses and try again when I wasn't getting chaingrabbed
sage marsh
you have to have good nitra economy and resupplys stacked up and just spam the cryos if it gets hairy
wicked flame
is flamethrower better against mactera?
steady narwhal
Cryo is obviously great against mactera, but if you're running EPC, flamethrower works fine too
They tend to stay grouped up so it's not too hard to hit them all
wicked flame
i feel like cryo doesnt compliment other damage as much
unkempt breach
same can be said for explosive flamer
wicked flame
if you freeze something that somebody else is hitting their damage is wasted
steady narwhal
Not necessarily, because the slow on cryo can be helpful even before a full freeze
wicked flame
well if they are frozen they are dead anyway
so taking more damage doesnt matter in that case
unkempt breach
not around noobs
wicked flame
?
unkempt breach
they don't shoot frozen things
steady narwhal
For mactera specifically, they are dead anyway, yes
wicked flame
freezing flying enemies kills them
wraith shard
PGL with proximity fuse is also a great mactera clearer
unkempt breach
specifically for mactera, frozen just mean instantly dead, so you are not wasting otehr team's ammo
wicked flame
yeah, was talking about mactera
unkempt breach
any anything flying for that matter
steady narwhal
IMO, if you're gonna go cryo, you shouldn't be relying solely on your team to kill stuff for you anyway. Take damage on your drills and impact axe, or at least the subata
wicked flame
I haven't used flamethrower a lot
just wondering if it was significantly better for mactera
unkempt breach
explosive flamer works very well
once one of them blow up, it causes chain reaction
steady narwhal
Yeah flamethrower is perfectly serviceable vs mactera
I wouldn't say it's better than cryo, but it's good
unkempt breach
but epc explosion is best
one well placed, all of them dispatched
maybe 1 or 2 left buzzing
steady narwhal
Yes
wicked flame
that's definitely something i should try
steady narwhal
The freeze on dreads is so quick, I never feel like it's worth more than the direct damage a flamethrower would have dealt in that time anyway
unkempt breach
it's really a dread controller
wicked flame
yeah, never felt cryo was worth using on dreads
unkempt breach
well timed freeze will prevent most attacks
wicked flame
100 ammo is a lot
i might have to experiment with cryo on dreads a bit
seems hard to time that usefully tho
steady narwhal
Yeah if your team is good at dreads, the freeze/slow is great. But I'm used to playing with a bunch of greenbeards, so I suppose I prefer to be more self-sufficient lol
unkempt breach
practice makes perfect
wicked flame
then the dred teleports on top of you anway
steady narwhal
Flamethrower is a pretty small portion of your team's potential DPS on a dread, so in a good team, I can see cryo's CC being more valuable
wicked flame
ehh, sometimes using a simpler system lets you have more reliable performance and allows you to have more situational awareness
unkempt breach
dread requires team coordination anyway. It's great at building team members up imo
steady narwhal
Team coordination, or a breach cutter
wicked flame
one of the two
unkempt breach
a lot of dmg can be done with a single freeze, and depending on load out, a single freeze is enough to take it to 50%
steady narwhal
I've never seen a team nuke a frozen dread that fast
unkempt breach
post 3 freezes, dread build up quite an immunity
eh six shooters
plus triple line feedback
plus double shell
wicked flame
That might be fun to try with a team I already know, but I don't like to rely too much on complicated setups
steady narwhal
I feel like the freeze is too short to reliably have scout in shotgun range, but yes triple line feedback will do terrible things to dread health lol
unkempt breach
requires good timing, and primed with c4
i personally will take hp loss on the feedback so the engi can unload
wicked flame
thx for the thoughts
azure spoke
I got my first promotion today: Gunner. Haven't started Deep Diving yet. Is this the right place to ask for advice for a newbie Deep Diver?
unkempt breach
what advice do you need?
normal deep dive is like a haz3.5
if you can do haz 3 & 4 without sweat, you don't need to worry
work your role as you normally would, deploy zipline and shield at appropriate time and place
prioritize shooting things that crawl on ceiling
full arrow
how's this week's morkite situation
unkempt breach
and for god's sakes, don't bring frag mine
i'm not aware of any morkite situation?
what do you mean by that?
full arrow
previous 2 weeks there was an issue where there was barely enough morkite on the secondary objectives
so people spent upwards of an hour looking for the last 2-3 morkite
so i was wondering if it was the same thing this week
unkempt breach
there's plenty
full arrow
noice
i've been playing slime rancher and now i have to adjust to not having a jetpack
unkempt breach
drink a dark morkite if you are fearful of not having enough
full arrow
might do that, did that last week as well
unkempt breach
honestly, i've never had issues with not having enough
there is always a treasure room where there's more than enough
vagrant lion
Hey hows this weeks deep dive, will most likely have my greenbeard friend joining me. Hes alright but nothing fabulous
unkempt breach
so unless the scout is not doing his job, or being generally blind, there is hardly ever an issue of not enough for meeting quotas
full arrow
deep dive shouldnt be too much of a problem
azure spoke
alright, thanks for the advice, guys. That was what I needed.
unkempt breach
but that has always been like that
full arrow
the last stage (haz3.5) might be a bit dicey if bulks spawn, if he's never played on haz4
the uplink can be annoying
azure spoke
What's frag mine? My brain shorted out
unkempt breach
oh yeah, prioritize uplink
get it done first
unless it is far far away
but this week's uplinks are close to drop
and you do not need all 4 on the uplink
the scout should always be mining
frag mine is the throwable that fragments into multiple team killing shits
vagrant lion
Alright, i think we might pull through. Thanks
full arrow
the cluster grenade?
unkempt breach
it is a noob trap that every gunner brings, only to find that it is hardly worth it
azure spoke
ah. Is it the default Gunner grenade?
full arrow
i love the cluster, don't diss it
unkempt breach
and only kill team in the worst possible way
full arrow
it doesn't do that much damage
azure spoke
no, that's the sticky, sorry
full arrow
boo
azure spoke
Okay, I'll stick with sticky. I prefer it anyway.
unkempt breach
with it you can chase away any praetorian
azure spoke
I also have the friendly perk, so that should help
unkempt breach
you cna break their vomits
full arrow
gunner's job is not to chase away praets, it's to kill them
unkempt breach
you generally do not need to prioritize prae unless you are defending
full arrow
that is true
unkempt breach
kite them around and leave them for last
azure spoke
I have the armor break upgrade on my minigun, that helps kill the bigguns
full arrow
yeah, but it's useless against dreadnoughts and oppressors
most people use blowthrough
azure spoke
yeah, I noticed with oppressors. didn't notice with dreadnoughts
unkempt breach
oh word on blowthrough, mind your shots
you will kill ppl on the otherside
be mindful of your teammate's position and your gunning angle
azure spoke
I don't use penetration mods
full arrow
yeah, it helps to aim slightly downward so your bullets don't go too far astray
azure spoke
reasonable.
unkempt breach
penetration mod is useful on higher haz
due to the way mobs move around
and rushing at you
azure spoke
hmm
unkempt breach
they move like a legion
so blwothrough is excellent for ammo conservation and killing power
azure spoke
still doesn't help with oppressors or dreadnoughts though?
azure spoke
offhand is better for the big guys? hmm
unkempt breach
dread is all about high dmg in small window
azure spoke
I have typically been using min until it overheats or gets close, swithcing to offhand, then back after a few, on dreads
unkempt breach
your offhand dish out high dmg in small window of time
azure spoke
mmm, I'l switch it up and practice that, then
unkempt breach
you use mini to break the armor
azure spoke
the yellow bar / shell on the back
that's kinda how the cadence of my shooting works out - I tend to have mini active while it is armored, then shoot with the offhand while it's weakpoint is exposed. not by design, but jsut because that's how it seems to happen
thanks, this has been quite helpful. I'll double check my loadout, and fiddle with it a bit
but If I'm, using min to break the armor of the dreadnought, shouldn't I keep the AP on?
unkempt breach
your 2nd offhand is actually very nice for killing dread
due to its high fire rate
and with the right mods, very accurate
and dish out amazing dps
azure spoke
I do like accuracy mods
full arrow
the armor breaking is for destructible armor
oppressor/dread has unbreakable armor, and the dread's back shell is a shield
azure spoke
ah, okay
azure spoke
Great for a snack to go with the beer at the bar.
full arrow
i think the difference here is i prefer to not switch up my weapon mods between missions
because i will forget that i did so and that ends up biting me in the arse later
unkempt breach
depends on your play style
I mod mine such that I hardly ever switch
some ppl swear by having specific setup for dread mission
or egg mission
full arrow
i just bring engi + breach cutter
unkempt breach
or extraction mission
full arrow
for dreads
azure spoke
I only have the one mod setup. I know there are three slots so you can switch on the fly, but I haven't felt the need yet for multiple setups
full arrow
but yeah
i'll switch up mod/OC loadouts occasionally to try things out and if it works better i'll stick to that for a while
yeah the switching on the fly is a pain, you have to do a full setup for every weapon/gear item per slot
azure spoke
It's kinda hard to notice the difernces in normal gameplay, especially since the missions vary and a fair amount of the playstyle changes comefrm differences in terrain
well, teh game does make swapping already owned mods easy and straightforward
I specially like how the diferences are highlighted when selecting an unassigned mod
be nice if you could compare complete setups for a weapon side by side though. hmm
full arrow
generally what happens is i'll switch out my most-used dwarves for the other classes, for a while, so it doesn't get samey.
azure spoke
Yah, being able to switch out classes mission by mission is nice.
full arrow
and then after playing a high dps class for a while (for example) i find that i want to see how far i can get another class to go in that respect
there's specific combinations of mods on different weapons for different classes that give me the sort of ammo economy where i usually don't have too much of either
except Zkukov. i just can't with those.
azure spoke
hmm. if you could assign a set-up such that it automatcially swapped when yu selected a specific mission tyoe, i'd probably use multiple set-ups
full arrow
you can pick set-ups when going into a multiplayer mission
azure spoke
or, if the game asked if you wanted to swap for a given mission type
azure spoke
yah, you can, but you have to remember to do so
azure spoke
I've joined a few in progress missions where i didn't swap classes before I clicked jion, forgetting that you can't select type afterward.
unkempt breach
oh come on it wasn't so bad?
terse vector
Just finished EDD where iron will clutched the game
plain escarp
iron will clutches SO much
stark prawn
I kinda like micro flachettes with hallow, I think it scales on the brt 7
feral kiln
I had a clutch iron will in the EDD yesterday on stage 3, everyone was down so I popped it got our gunner up and he was able to survive long enough to get the other two.
bright oracle
hearty shoal
yeah I will also go with scout
sage marsh
if you hit the shots!
ruby mason
Hey, if anyone is here that booted me out of their deep dive for dying like 15 times, thanks you beat me to it
vocal bolt
Does everyone here just bunker up during black boxes?
tall matrix
Sometimes, it depends.
wraith shard
depends on strength of team and anomaly
vocal bolt
Ah
warped berry
@vocal bolt Personally do not use the bunker strat for any games (DD, EDD, haz 4/5). Also only encountered 1 driller this year who made a bunker so it’s not common at all in my region it seems and for good reason.
@orchid flower maybe try #drg-chat ?
vocal bolt
I've done it both times in this week's EDD with a friend and it seems to be the play if you don't mind a run banking on a bulk not spawning
orchid flower
A this is deep dive my bad
vocal bolt
It does need a bit of coordination, but it feels straightforward once it starts
raven fable
Bunkering is pretty easy, you just need to ask most experienced drillers for it. Either at an otherwise unplayable situation or when you just want to go through the EDD for the cores.
But due to the general distaste for it, you won't easily find a driller that does it by default. Generally it comes to it only whne others bring up the question first.
warped berry
@vocal bolt I get why people like it but I don’t think it’s necessary. Easier to kill in waves anyway, with good line of sight you can take the bugs out before they get to you. I’ve been doing EDD with randoms and don’t use bunkering, not because I’m all “No bunkers plz” but it just never comes up because no one does it (again, in my region)
raven fable
I think there was only one EDD when bunkering was all but required, it was a PE mission on magma core with a black box, but the box fell through one of the crevices in the ground like 80% of the time
warped berry
Recent EDD? Where the ground cracked open in the black box cave?
warped berry
Ah ok I don’t have that good a memory lol!
raven fable
I haven't been doing EDDs for like 4 months now, so I only really recall the old ones
but I get why some people just don't enjoy EDDs on their own, and only want the rewards
warped berry
Recent EDD? Where the ground cracked open in the black box cave?
@warped berry oops my bad it was a dreadnought egg not BB! Disregard this
raven fable
the EDD missions are rather barren compared to the regular ones after all the updates with lost equip spawns, crates and machine events
vocal bolt
We only bunkered since we valued the convenience at the time
raven fable
also, no jadiz -.-
warped berry
Yeah DD/EDD are literally get in get out ASAP missions for cores. Do the bare minimum.
vocal bolt
Bunkers feel like 2 minutes of setup for a convenient black box phase
Seems like a reasonable tradeoff to me
raven fable
depends on your driller, but yea.
warped berry
Depends on your play style and your crowd control skills. Eventually it really becomes unnecessary because you will acquire the skills not to have to cheese it.
vocal bolt
Yeah
Maybe one day
My friend and I just wanted a smooth completion while we idly talked about random stuff on voice chat, so black bunker it was
sage marsh
bunkers are fun until a bulk detonator spawns at the entrance haha
frosty aspen
Bunkers are for leaf lovers
knotty rampart
bunkers take the fun out of the challenge
feral atlas
bunkers are just worse repellant setups if the team is competent
vague glacier
Sooo i promoted my first dwarf and ran my first deep dive, what should i know before venturing into the Elite ones?
fringe kettle
play haz 5 and see if you can handle it. That's basically the difficulty in the edd.
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quaint quarry
I wont lie, I could use some help getting the EDD done, I only made it to the third but couldnt complete it.
vale niche
two open spots for the elite deep dive
rose thunder
Wasn’t there a website that showed details of current deep dives? Anyone got a link?
If not then could someone tell me the warnings for the elite deep dive so I can have a loadout ready.
ionic chasm
5 tries so far of EDD always 2nd stage wrecks us
quaint quarry
The chip damage and lack of nitra on teh first level kills it, getting swamed every time. The exploders on level 3 is jsut brutal.
I will give it a go again tomororw.
vocal bolt
Current weeks EDD went fairly smoothly for the comp I went with
Had plenty of damage and cc with engi/driller
pseudo moat
@quaint quarry Grab a friend and duo the elite deep dive
vocal bolt
First level of the EDD on the steam map has plenty of nitra on the ceiling
Right from when you drop in
visual lake
EDD3 where is a good room to fight the dread?
like pod room is terrible
and exploder waves make each one unusable in like 3 minutes
vocal bolt
We pulled the dreads towards the hallways between the rooms
I don't remember much but
We ended up going for some of the hallways that were big enough for us to move around and strafe without much issue
spark cave
Hmm, even exploder waves?
vocal bolt
We winged/didn't plan with how to deal with the exploder waves
But it worked out since we stuck together for the most part
spark cave
Hmm, my team and I had a tough time for that EDD3 because of exploder waves and fire
vocal bolt
As long as you keep your eye out for the waves and keep an appropriate amount of distance while you pick them off you'll usually be fine
spark cave
I see. Thanks!
vocal bolt
Though, I 2 manned which probably makes the exploders feel a bit more easier to deal with?
But yeah
Bring lots of crowd control and be vigilant, should turn out fine
spark cave
We did. We are too close to complete EDD3
vocal bolt
Oof
spark cave
fire, lava, and exploders hurt us hard
vocal bolt
Yeah, those three can get pretty out of hand together if you're not careful
vocal bolt
Good luck on your run o7
spark cave
Thanks!
thorny geyser
wew lads, that second stage mactera plague was pretty intense
engie didnt have usual sky sweeper set for PGL so it was like skeet shooting
vocal bolt
sounds like fun tbh
thorny geyser
yep, it was actually fun to have a go with some greenbeards
two fails, but we managed to get through
lots of downs, but who cares
vocal bolt
Hey, funs all that matters imo
sage marsh
deep dives are a lot easier on solo yeah? tried pugging it but got smoked on stage 2
vocal bolt
You want two people at least imo
outer sluice
tulip folio
@rose thunder Look at the pinned messages, there is a public file
mortal thorn
phew, this week's EDD is not that bad, except earthquakes + biome
long field
i have no idea what that means
steady narwhal
It's in magma core, so you get to experience all the fun of slowdown effects and chip damage together in one convenient package
long field
sounds like shit...i think
steady narwhal
Yeah, well fortunately the shield disrupt is on the first stage
Mactera plague was actually the bigger issue for my team
Unlimited Grabber Works
long field
i take it dd are a global setting?
steady narwhal
Yes, although the terrain generation is different between platforms
mortal thorn
yeah, got it on my second try, the first one was almost perfect, but it ended when the chain of very unfortunate events started and I died 4 times in a row because I couldnt get out of the hole that the earthquake made
long field
anyone wanna do a deep dive?
mortal thorn
- macteras + and all that happened when I was fighting with a dred
I love that game, but some things are very annoying, especially for solo divers
steady narwhal
Exploder infestation on solo haz 5.5 is a nightmare for everyone but engie
steady narwhal
Well yeah why would he come during any other part?
mortal thorn
haha, yes
steady narwhal
I did it once with a bunch of greenbeards, and fortunately got no detonator. Did it again with a better partner and we got the bulk during the black box of course
long field
you two want to do a dd and teach me how to do it?
steady narwhal
It's a good thing those spawns weren't reversed because the greenbeard team would've probably bit the dust then and there
I play on xbox so I can't join you, unfortunately
mortal thorn
Im a toxic solo diver, you DONT wanna play with me lol
steady narwhal
DD is only haz 3.5 though so you should be fine. EDD is the one that kicks your teeth in
long field
ah, good to know
mortal thorn
btw
long field
?
steady narwhal
It was similar on xbox, except 70% of it was on the ceiling. Paradise for EPC driller, and just taunting anyone else
mortal thorn
macteras are curse of console players prolly? even on PC I sometimes miss their weak spots
they ALWAYS move and their attack can leave you with no shield and a half of health bar
steady narwhal
I get frustrated when I'm fighting them as scout. Other classes manage fine
Grabbers are obnoxiously tanky I suppose, their weakpoint is really hard to hit with a controller
But yeah, trying to hit the standard spitters with the scout AR sucks
mortal thorn
the worst thing about them that sometimes their sound clues tell you that the grabber must be somewhere in the cave, but in the next moment it grabs from behind you because there were 2! grabbers and only one of them made the sound
also macteras sometimes start shooting at you without making any sound
steady narwhal
Their spawn noise is almost silent
mortal thorn
you turn around and see 9000+ of macteras ready to rekt you
and shield is not ready yet
steady narwhal
At least exploders dig out of the terrain to let you know they're coming
Macteras just have the sound of wings if you're lucky
mortal thorn
do leeches make any sounds at all?
steady narwhal
Yeah
mortal thorn
I dont think that having a perk to escape from them once during the mission is a good idea, so I dont use it, but I still have no idea how to know if there's one somewhere on the ceiling
in the dark
steady narwhal
I have started getting annoyed at heightened senses because it makes it harder for me to find the direction a leech is coming from by covering up the sound cue
Although it does work multiple times per mission which is nice
I don't think it's worth it solo since Bosco is such a champ
In high ceiling caves, I usually hear them coming. When they get me is when they reach sideways as you're on the same level as them
mortal thorn
sometimes bosco just wants to see the world burn and leaves me to die alone, even if I press X and ask for help he's flying nearby and pretends to be a bug who doesnt know me
steady narwhal
Yeah, it's a good thing he carries lots of revives
mortal thorn
he even soloed the detonator during one of the missions, so Im not sure that I will be able to kick his butt if we fight someday xD
dwarf vs terminator
steady narwhal
You won't be able to move
Electric bullets
He's already too powerful. All we have is to pray he will be merciful.
dim trellis
detanator spawning right in front of you @ extract pod
some david n golliath chiz man
flint zephyr
I have never heard leeches make any noises before they grab you. I'm a leech magnet so I really need to know this.
willow salmon
They do hiss at you but usually unless you're already moving then hearing the sound means it's already too late
flint zephyr
I think I heard the hiss before but that's when the leech is a half second from grabbing me. Even when I move it's way too late.
vivid haven
elite deep dives with flyers, holy smoke. how the hell do people survive??
we died in minutes (admittedly in trouble from stage 1 of dive)
vivid haven
?
steady narwhal
Engineer's alternate secondary weapon is an excellent fly swatter. Run it with triple split line and you can take out most of a mactera spawn group in one shot if you hit them while they're still grouped up
vivid haven
ok, thanks!
feral kiln
Cryo grenades are also nice to use because they tend to bunch up. You do need to be able to hit a target in mid air with it though.
south sentinel
Yeah on those flying swarms a cryo grenade is awesome. Can also C4 them I think
ashen moat
Driller Subata also has a Mactera bonus damage option
Cryo grenade is crazy good though. Cryo cannon, even at high freeze bonuses, doesn't do that much to them and it's almost always easier to pop them with the Mactera hating Subata.
Breach Cutter is the number one flier killer though.
visual lake
@ashen moat nope not even close proxy fatboy #1
dim trellis
cryo nades are amayyyyyzing
you'd think u wont land the stretched apart mactera spawn
but u freakin will
sand coyote
The abilities aren't too obvious regarding what's the current cooldown wrong chat
floral elbow
Yea my group had a scout with cryos and he ahnilated the mactera spawns.
short charm
I've really fallen in love again with cryo grenades, even taking them over IFGs. Much thanks to Syncourts scout loadout. (GK2 + Bullets of Mercy and increased stun chance, Boomstick with blowthrough, improved stun (5 seconds of stun), phosphorus. And cryo grenades)
Basically. It'd all about being able to apply a wide variety of effects to enemies and so far it's been pretty amazing. I'd never thought of using the improved stun on the Boomstick but those 5 seconds are enough to delete any Haz5 praetorian without giving them even a chance to fire back.
However. A weapons balance patch is coming today with the experimental update so we will see if the Scout meta changes. Old rumors say it's mostly the M1K and Zhuks that will be adjusted but I hope some overclock are improved too.