deep-dive-discussion

[obsidian gorge]

it was just laying on the ground near the egg thing it spawns in

just had to grab and deposit, it was near the drop pod from the salvage part of the edd

[granite lantern]

i dont understand

the salvage mission has morkite not egg

are you refering to an older EDD?

Or do you mean DD

[obsidian gorge]

anything with eggs and salvage op

[fluid timber]

i got attacked by 2 wardens, 2 praetorians, an oppressor, and a nuke at the same time all inside the fuel cell zone

thats not even counting the uncontrollable amount of little shits either

scout btw

[obsidian gorge]

3 mules + 2 eggs is first stage of EDD

[scarlet willow]

you are thinking of one of the DD stages

the last one iirc

stage one of EDD is 3mules + 150morkite

[granite lantern]

Yes omega

you confused the heck out of me lol

[late elm]

lmoa, jumped into an open lobby of hackers on the EDD and took more damage from the unlimited BC shots flying around than anything else.

[golden pier]

this game has hackers?

[fringe kettle]

I think it's safe to say that every game with a multiplayer element will have script kiddies.

[golden pier]

idk it just seems dumb to hack in a coop pve game

[pine sapphire]

Damn stage 3. 2 fails today. Lol had a triple 3star legendary team that failed on stage 1 that was fun. I was running around alive until I ran out ammo 👍

[late elm]

Stage 3 was pretty hectic for a minute

Just me as scout with an engie, but we just didn't have the DPS to handle the hordes eventually

Played keep away while yeeting aquarqs by the end of it

Engie was pretty green.

Did pretty good though

[cinder lotus]

is there any point doing deep dive twice?

[near nebula]

uhhh i guess to play the game

[quiet mortar]

I mean the XP is kinda nice
though really you can get just as much running a 400 Mining Expedition

[obsidian gorge]

you guys confusing, I will even screenshot it

[austere crest]

is it possible for someone to join my deep dive when im at stage 3

[obsidian gorge]

nope

[austere crest]

well shit

[obsidian gorge]

the idea is that you are only able to rejoin, not join one in progress

[austere crest]

ive spent over an hour or so on the second and almost got overwhelmed by swarms

guess i have to survive the last somehow

[obsidian gorge]

I guess it was DD then

[visual lake]

how are people even doing these sub 23 minute DD's this week ? most of the time spent on mining the morkite?

EDDs that is

[obsidian gorge]

you can probably check the recordings

[austere crest]

over 1000 kills on deep dive as scout... that was torture

i can see why people arent fond of bosco

well, some

[neon imp]

Imagine having deep dive unlocked

Couldn’t be me

[feral atlas]

This week's EDD is extremely easy; assuming that you play haz5 with modifiers as your base difficulty

[late elm]

Mhm.

I pretty easily carried a fresh off the droppod greenbeard through it all as scout

Would have been hardpressed to do that on the ones 2 weeks ago and 3 weeks ago.

[stone lily]

It's fine as long as you get through stage 1. Lots of people were complaining about stage3 but the salvage room layout was rough

[tribal crater]

Salvage room layout got a lot easier the time it threw 3 bulk detonators at me and i blew them up near the uplink. Made a real nice clearing.

[dawn nimbus]

lol

[wraith shard]

Fuck guners

Dude had one fucking job

I said to him 3 fucking Times

We need you to start using your fucking shield

[dawn nimbus]

calm down pls

[wraith shard]

And we wiped at stage 3 due to fucking flies

Yes calm down

[dawn nimbus]

not very any people knows that the shield is a great thing

[wraith shard]

Dont start me on using the shield in other way than droping it under the feets

As a way to Block psths

As a way to crowd control detonators

[dawn nimbus]

some folks dont even know it there hrodebert

[wraith shard]

FFS

You are right

But I already did the whole deep dive

[dawn nimbus]

i didnt knew of the shields till i was rank 20 so pls calm down

[wraith shard]

The game did not registered that dives have changed

And now I am in hell

[dawn nimbus]

i played gunner from rank 1 to 15 than switched to main driller than at rank 20 i realized i had a shield thing and didnt know about it till i tested it out

[wraith shard]

Trying to do elite

[tribal crater]

Shields are awesome when you throw them halfway between an ally with good swarm clearing and the entire swarm.

So, you finished the elite, went on to do another, and didn't get credit for the first?

[dawn nimbus]

i atleast teached my two gunner main friends about the shields when they first started

[tribal crater]

Yeah, best and worst thing about being human. Our brains are more wired for learning from being taught than any other species.

[dawn nimbus]

eh i wasnt paying attention to all my gears

i was only concern with my pick and my two guns

when i was playing driller i used a c4 and didnt knew i had a 4th thing on my invatory so i went back to gunner and saw the shields so i know about forgetting it or not noticing period

[stone lily]

more often than not it's people with "saving it for the apocalypse" syndrome. Same reason you get scouts that don't flare properly

[wraith shard]

Sometimes I grief over the fact that i cant just stop my life through sheer force of will

Using the shield changes gunner into terminator

[tranquil mural]

Any tips on doing the EDD on solo with gunner or scout?

[merry monolith]

EDD gunner doesn't seeem that bad, although I don't thiunk I've solod it myself

You could probably get away with taking minigun and relying on bosco for most swarms

If you and focus on ranged attackers you could abuse ziplines

[low violet]

Wtf man I spawn into the map on 3rd stage EDD and got absolutely shat on by mactera being everywhere almost immediately

[tranquil mural]

On stage 3 I got fucked by grabbers right at the end, I was almost done the second object but the amount of grabbers are insane

[somber jacinth]

Stage 3 has Mactera Plague, what did you expect? no Mactera Grabbers?

[tranquil mural]

yes

there were just too many for me to deal with

[low violet]

At least you made it to get one crystal

I got screwed right out of the drop pod#

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[wraith shard]

We almost ended 3 stage 2 Times

But gunner Keept throwing shield on the fucking initial WAVE

And we got fucked by the macteras that joined few seconds later

"But but you should do bunkers"

Not to mention that from all objectives i collected all aquarqs and one Egg

They had one fucking simple job

One fucking job

[next pebble]

@wraith shard watch the language

[heavy oriole]

"But but you should do bunkers"
@wraith shard

Yikes, hate it when I get those peeps

Gunner throwing shield on initial wave isn’t the end of the world, the recharge isn’t crazy long.

[wraith shard]

Yeach but Instead of killing macteras he was firing On 10 spiders

[heavy oriole]

[wraith shard]

I mean

Fuck

I 2ant to kill myself

[heavy oriole]

Instead kick barrels.

[wraith shard]

The worst part is

[visual lake]

We cheesed stage 3 via. Tunnel king under the eggs and bunkering there whenever a wave started

[wraith shard]

Why chesese 3 stage if it is So fucking easy

The problem is with pepole who cant shot straight

[visual lake]

For EDD?

The low G means the moment you jump you get grabbed

[granite lantern]

just get the driller to rush the aquarqs

[heavy oriole]

Stage 3, I can see how for some people RNG could be bad. But I think I got lucky and we breezed through it pretty nicely.

I pretty much just constantly focused on killing mactera for my ally who was nabbing aquarks.

Low gravity wasn’t ‘bad’ as long as someone was sweeping up mactera.

[visual lake]

Stage 3 has a huge difficulty gap between 2P and 4P

Due to scaling

4P EDD3 was crazy

[heavy oriole]

That could be why it didn’t seem bad to me, I do everything 2p.

Then again, 2p is often considered hardest.

Especially with grabbers n stuff

(I think 2p is hardest if one person messes up, but is potentially easiest if both players are really good)

[wraith shard]

Fuck these pepole

We could end it

But nooooo we must find nitra

And they got wipped

After

Agghhhnjh

I am losing my fucking mind

[next pebble]

Last warning on the language man

[heavy oriole]

Take a break yo, games are supposed to be fun

[wraith shard]

Fuck you

[next pebble]

Easiest duncing in a while

[reef wolf]

Anyone remember Week 40's EDD stage 3?

[fringe kettle]

there's a log in pinned messages

[reef wolf]

I* remember it had 10 aquarqs 1 dread and it was haunted cave

[visual lake]

Haunted cave is the only time EM turret gets to shine lol

[heavy oriole]

That one was crazy, I just remember a lot of dead dwarves on the minehead

(Tbh I think that’s how stage 3 SHOULD feel for EDD)

[vocal maple]

opinion- sticking close to the minehead on pe is a noob trap

[heavy oriole]

Def can’t say you’re wrong on the haunted one

[mental valley]

Anyone remember Week 40's EDD stage 3?
@reef wolf talking about the one on glacial?

[reef wolf]

No

Its from sandblasted

[mental valley]

That one was somewhat insane imo.

those types of missions imo are where gunner ziplines are so important.

[odd comet]

That could be why it didn’t seem bad to me, I do everything 2p.

Then again, 2p is often considered hardest.
No, two player is considered the easiest player count. You get a second dwarf, but enemies barely scale up from solo levels

[granite lantern]

two player is considered the most reliable for fastest not the easiest @odd comet

Easiest may as well be one player tbh

[somber jacinth]

the Empty Trench EDD was NOT easy in any shape of the word.

[granite lantern]

bosco is ridiculously strong as we know

[visual lake]

I wonder if they will ever have an infinite length EDD in which you get to choose to bail or keep going .

And have them allow multiple mutators

So noshield + mactera plague w rich atmo and critical weakness

[feral atlas]

if empty trench was the sandblasted one from a couple weeks ago, it was only a little above average

beating shield disruption egg missions is usually as simple as having a team that isn't stupid enough to pull eggs at bad times

[visual lake]

the no shield magma core with multiple detonators was just plain bad

[feral atlas]

Most EDDs, if you don't count the player quality, are legitimately easier than most Haz5 missions

[granite lantern]

honestly

agreeable

specially in solo

level gen is more forgiving and you get to build up nitra in haz 4.5

[feral atlas]

you have a stage 1 with weak bugs, a stage 2 with a starting nitra bank, and stage 3 with a nitra hoard

the "difficulty" of EDDs is, and will likely always be, rooted in the mismatch between the quality of the players incentivized to play it and the players that should be okay to attempt it

with the exception of like maybe 4 EDDs that were legit a bit bullshit

[somber jacinth]

I still remember when I started being able to do the Deep Dives. the Devs must have had a legit Shield Disruption fetish because that mutator was in Elite Deep Dives for 3 weeks straight.

[feral atlas]

those being the magma core EDD with pre-nerf Lethal Enemies stage 2, the EDD with the black box that kepp falling into a crevasse, and the EDD with the stage 3 PE that had the equivalent of what felt like a Haz6 or Haz7 passive spawn rate

and including 1 more just for margin

[somber jacinth]

I remember the Secret Ledge Elite Deep Dive. that had the Haunted Cave PE with a Dreadnaught and what felt like a permanent swarm.

[dull silo]

I liked that one

had a bet-c too, on solo

[visual lake]

can betsy spawn on EDD? I've only had her on regular DDs

similarly can korlok spawn too?

[dull silo]

I assume so

Bet c certainly can

havent seen a korlok yet, but apparantly whether or not they spawn can differ for the amount of players in the dives

[granite lantern]

@visual lake week 40 edd had a BETC on stage 3 for solo parties

[visual lake]

korlok on haz 5.5 would be welp there goes all our ammo

[granite lantern]

Lots of things differ on party size

Even uplink locations.

[visual lake]

esp with the resistance multis

[dull silo]

unless its literally on top of an uplink you can just ignore it

[granite lantern]

unless its literally on top of an uplink you can just ignore it
@dull silo sounds like 5/6 times i had korlok in salvage

[dull silo]

ive only had 2 korloks total still

[visual lake]

haha i wonder if they will make a Korlok Boss level similar to the tentacle in HL

[dull silo]

and theyve all been on the edge of some huge cliff structure at the top of the map

[visual lake]

they always seem to be in a ridiculous place

and drop the last tentacle 30m down

and you are like wtf is it

[feral atlas]

Korlok should only take 1, maybe 2 resupplies worth of ammo

though this heavily depends on the engi and gunner not having taken shit loadouts

if your gunner took autocannon and engi took something like Fat Boy or RJ250, then yeah, a Haz5/5.5 Korlok will lay waste to your ammo pool

[granite lantern]

hold the fuck

@scarlet willow add this to our to do list

[scarlet willow]

pepoG

[granite lantern]

next time we fight a korlok we try to one shot it with a ressuply

[scarlet willow]

you just put it under right

[granite lantern]

i think so?

[scarlet willow]

ok

wait

does korlok have more health than

1k

probably

[fringe kettle]

https://deeprockgalactic.gamepedia.com/Creatures

3k

[granite lantern]

@fringe kettle @scarlet willow i was mistaken, i thought supply pod dealt 2k

one would be able to reliably deal 100 dmg on korlok and then drop supply pod on a 2man

but i guess you can do this to cheese the third healthgate at least

I dont know where i took 2k damage from

I said they were 1k a while ago 🤔

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[fringe zealot]

man this first level EDD sucks

27 minutes spend looking for 50 morkite

[scarlet willow]

wow that is long

And i thought i toke a long time

[fringe zealot]

isn't there usually one room at the end with tons of it?

[scarlet willow]

its salvage

as the primary primary?

[dull silo]

That just means there was 1 room with all of it :3

[pliant girder]

Didn't have an issue with this EDD they give you more than enough morkite. But I did have one morkite mission I did where there was no last room with all the morkite. Spent 50 minutes in it trying to find that last vein then quit.

[wild shuttle]

This week's EDD was just awful

failed on the first mission twice, finally got a good group, and we had an unlucky series of events on the 3rd mission and died while getting basically everything except the Fusion Core

[merry monolith]

Whats a fusion core

[wild shuttle]

*Matrix Core >.>

[near delta]

Why is it that players can't just follow directions?

Like, when the driller says "Hey during swarms group up in the bunkers" a swarm happens, AND IM THE ONLY ONE IN THE FUCKING BUNKER!

[scarlet willow]

bunkering

[near delta]

a safety hole from the mactera

idk if you'd call that bunkering but ok whatever

we had all the quarks, just pulled and deposited the eggs. and what does the team do? Die out in the middle of the open to grabbers instead of holding up in the shelter I made specifically to funnel the mactera.

[scarlet willow]

bunkering is cheese

[late isle]

Bunkering is a totally fine strat. Back when ziplining had zero downside and you couldn’t be knocked off by damage, now that was cheese. Bunkering just makes sense in certain situations.

[tame verge]

I hope all bunkers get visited by a det or 3 oppressors at once

I did the elite deep dive as a duo with the scout being player rank 20, they went down 12 times during the mission. If that scout can do it well it's not that bad of a deep dive

[vital veldt]

the first part of the edd is rough but if you make a kill bunker it isnt too bad unless there is a detentator

[scarlet willow]

bunkering is for elves

[somber jacinth]

I still remember my 3rd run of the Magma Core EDD, Fearless Drop. the ground swallowed the uplink, forcing us to bunker down.

[merry monolith]

omg

Just played a EDD

it was the sweatest, closest gave I've played yet

we won mostly cause I stayed alive and was able to kill mactera swarms easily with BC, and then I chose a location near the back room with the slime where I put a platform, a resupply and a turret

and just mowed through the super slow melee people that game

I had to survive waves that knocked the rest of the party twice

last guy standing multiple times resetting the team

defintely some of the most high value breach cutter shots I've ever made just due to the insane congestion

our gunner and driller was pretty good

gunner got of 24 revives?

driller was the only one to make it out

[tame verge]

Jesus

[merry monolith]

gunner was mostly resing scout who died uh idk 20 or so times alone

[tame verge]

Mactera+low grav is really bad

[merry monolith]

I mean it wasn't that bad we just stayed for far too long

once you get squad wiped except for one person it takes too long to reset

I can take out 80% of the swarm in 2-3 shots

[tame verge]

Ah when I went though it as a duo with my friend in the AU I told them we get the eggs and the 7 aquarq ASAP and get the fuck out no nitra no nothin

[merry monolith]

thats what i told my team

[tame verge]

still was hell

[merry monolith]

we got 1 egg and 2 aquarks by the time we accumulated I'd say around 20 downs total on that map

[tame verge]

I dislike fungus bogs so much

[merry monolith]

on low grav the fungus bogs defintely saved me

i didn't care about melee, only mactera

I can just jump through slime to kite super well

and oh man my BC shots were like

chefs kiss

anyway

I'm not complaining, I knew what I was getting into

queuing up right before the mission reset

was mad fun

[tame verge]

did you go into the hell cave?

the cave that has 4 praetorians

just chilling

[merry monolith]

I don't think praetorians are instanced

not sure

I did go to a cave with I think 3 praetorians tho

sleeping

but that was stage 2

[tame verge]

oh they are I went down there with my friend and there were just two chilling

[merry monolith]

oh yeah

[tame verge]

Yeah stage two

[merry monolith]

Super easy to kill for me

took 3 BC shots total

I went alone

[tame verge]

I know it still was a surprise for me

[merry monolith]

yeah it was fun

they're having a little party

[tame verge]

but yeah when my AU friend who is player rank 20 said she hadn't done the EDD I kinda wanted to shoot myself because I did it last week

[merry monolith]

lol

[tame verge]

but hey it turned out alright

She went down 9 times during the thing

[merry monolith]

What were you, engie?

[tame verge]

I was Engi and she was Scout

[merry monolith]

yeah I think its way easier to carry as engie

[tame verge]

I think it's easiest to carry as gunner

[merry monolith]

I literally got 60 more kills than the rest of my entire team combined

our gunner was second with about half, and the other two were about one fourth

[tame verge]

Well kills doesn't matter, because one swarmer is one bulk in the eyes of the game

so whoever has wave clear or swarmer clear gets the most kills

[merry monolith]

No, but in terms of damage dealt I feel like I was probably around the same metric

[tame verge]

and that's engi and gunner

[merry monolith]

since I had RTS BC I was prioritiznig praetorians and opressors as well

I don't think we had a single bulk

but BC dps that too

[tame verge]

I don't really use BC on praetorians or opressors

[merry monolith]

I just send one RTS their way

to strip armor/stun depending

[tame verge]

mostly just to clear grunts

[merry monolith]

I also cleared the most mactera by far, I'd wager in terms of total damage defintely the highest, if not as much as the rest of the team combined

[tame verge]

probably because on my list of high priority targets grunts are higher than a single preatorian when there are 5 coming at me

[merry monolith]

sometimes I don't fire on grunts if my angle isn't good, just ping it and fire my primary and let gunner prioritize the swarm

but yeah, before this I was warming up to like, scout and driller and now its becoming clearer and clearer to me that engie is a good heads and shoulderes above the rest in terms of carrying potential

or just like, peak performance

RTS BC is just good against too many things

[cunning saffron]

high voltage is my favorite for bc

its really good with plasma trail

[merry monolith]

stubby is just an incredibly versatile and competent primary

[low violet]

I didn’t take stubby with me for the elite deep dive. How is it for this weeks EDD and what build if I might ask did you use

[tame verge]

I mean use what you feel you're best with

[low violet]

I was just curious how it does since I don’t have time to do it again with the stubby

[merry monolith]

Oh I took stubby over MPA

for a good anti mactera weapon

also I was doing it EDDS solo and when I do it solo I almost always take stubby because its a relatively servicable long range weapon

To accomplish this I either take super slim or light weight

light weight I take 2x damage, and AS tier 2

for super slim I take recoil

[low violet]

Ah nice thanks . I wanted to try some stubby builds that don’t involve using the turrets in conjunction

[granite lantern]

Ah nice thanks . I wanted to try some stubby builds that don’t involve using the turrets in conjunction
@low violet the only bad stubby builds are the turret overclocks

the rest are all solid, the turret overclocks are both too weak for their downsides

23222 EM refire is a solid af build but its really hard to get used to at first

[tame verge]

@granite lantern Um the one that causes the purple explosion is real freaken good when used right

the other one is actual garbage though only used for cheesing a dread

[granite lantern]

@tame verge not really

the discharge is fine but

-3 damage???

most people would rather have an useful gun

[tame verge]

The stubby is still useful with that OC

[granite lantern]

It honestly feels less mind numbingly painful to me to deal with -120 ammo than to run EMD

[tame verge]

plus the turret doesn't even need to be built to use it

[granite lantern]

despite the -120 turret arc ammo still lasts longer

the cooldown nerf was kinda needed but most people dont see a reason to bring emd

specially when it cuts the total damage of a weapon with piss poor accuracy and lackuster ammo by a third

the effect is good but the gun is just too sad

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[vernal salmon]

Soon my bois

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
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[lilac jungle]

Yeet!! Time to get my deep dive on!!

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE - Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Secret Impact
ELITE: DEEP DIVE - Salt Pits | Code Name: Titanic Edge

[vernal salmon]

|| https://i.imgur.com/Pe3p8sO.jpg ||

EDD

[granite lantern]

looks easy and comfy

@scarlet willow are you available in 3 hours

[vernal salmon]

comfy indeed

2 times 2 bulks in last mission tho

[vernal salmon]

welp i forgot to make DD missions screen

a lot of dreadnoughts tho

[willow tulip]

Got a bulk at the very end of fuel cells on first stage edd

[willow tulip]

Pretty easy overall

[tame verge]

||https://imgur.com/a/SV3zaGe||

Shit

Well whatever there's the Deep dive

Also heads up if you're playing driller you're going to have a bad time if you go cryo like I did on the Deep dive

[burnt valve]

why is there no deep dives rn?

[tame verge]

There is

you may need to restart your game for it to update

[south jasper]

||https://i.imgur.com/DwR2Xqx.jpg||

DD reiterated

[burnt valve]

ok

ty faith

[lofty wing]

so basically bring a big gun

good time for ice storm users

[odd comet]

Wait, it's all dreads?

[waxen verge]

always has been 🔫

[somber jacinth]

6 dreads in total across both dives

[tame verge]

you know I actually like dreadnaughts

[somber jacinth]

then here's a bad pun you probably saw coming 20 miles away. I guess this Week's Normal Deep Dive is a "dreadful" experience. >:3

couldn't resist the pun.

[tame verge]

also I hope you like the fart mushrooms for the last stage of the deep dive

[alpine vortex]

how does the union work? if i kill a breeder with a cave crawler party member, does he get the credit?

[obsidian gorge]

only thing that matters is how many members are in the mission, so if you have 2 miners, and a crawler kills a nexus, miners get 2 points for their goal

[night knoll]

apparently this week is "kill dreadnaughts you scrub" for my deep dive.

[night knoll]

shield disruption then a mactera plague, my two favorites >_>

[manic saffron]

hey guys

i have a question

[obsidian gorge]

where

it is usually much better to type the question , otherwise people can't answer them

[manic saffron]

ok so can i link my steam deeprock to microsoft store so i can play with my xbox friends?

if thats possible

[obsidian gorge]

no cross play like that

[manic saffron]

😕

[fringe kettle]

crossplay only exists between the windows store and xbox versions of the game. Steam can only play with other copies of the game on steam.

[manic saffron]

do you guys know when the next sale is then for microsoft store?

[fringe kettle]

Sales typically aren't announced ahead of time. I know on steam it's against their TOS.

[manic saffron]

oh ok

thanks!

[merry monolith]

This weeks EDD seem easier than last weeks

I've said that for the last 4 weeks

[scarlet willow]

last week was easier imo

map layout was small and simple last week

[merry monolith]

I played a right-before-the-mission-changed run

and boy it was not easy for me

I was the last guy alive twice, hit the bug cap a couple times

that might just be because i had an incompetent team but it seemed pretty bad compared to this weeks

our scout had over 20 deaths alone

[odd bison]

if you get disconnected from a EDD because the host got disconnected can you resume it from the stage you where at?

[frank ore]

20 death as scout... bruh

[hard oasis]

how hard is this weeks edd?

[slate pine]

anyone else get double detonator when starting the uplink on stage 1 edd?

[slate pine]

also if host disconnects that run is lost, but if clients disconnect they usually can reconnect

[slate pine]

also hear that soloing regular has lots of loot hoarders this week

[heavy oriole]

EDD was a cake walk.
Only down I had was from a stray bulk pod. Easy to get lost on stage 3. Ran it as 2 man team, scout and gunner.

The last few EDDs have definitely been on the easy side. Can use a lot more spice in my life tbh.

[plain gazelle]

Lots of dreadnoughts in the dd this week lol

they're gonna become an endangered species

As opposed to a dangerous species

[stone lily]

Yeah, I got disoriented on EDD stage 3. We had a bulk detonate in a small hallway that exposed a later hallway branch and I got me turned around. Took us a while to find the black box as a result.

Otherwise we did fine, had one DC on stage 1 but completed it smoothly with just 3 people

[marble veldt]

Tried EDD yesterday with two friends, we got wiped 4 times. Q'ronars just kept bouncing us around, making it impossible to hold a position.

Retried EDD this morning, got through it alone without much difficulty

Moral of the story : Solo > All

[plain gazelle]

thank RNjesus

[marble veldt]

Still had a Bulk spawn during uplink but Bosco with Electric bullets made it much more manageable

Completing both DD and EDD solo has cemented my love for the Cryo Cannon

❤️ ❤️

[low violet]

How do you keep from running out of ammo with Cryo ?

[obsidian gorge]

try cold radiance or more freezing power ? could share your mods / OC, so people can check

wait, are you trying to kill stuff with it ??

[plain gazelle]

There was a huge asshole in EDD earlier, he joined our lobby, then when the first mission started got out, shot a bunch of fat boys everywhere, then logged off

then our host disbanded the mission cause we were missing an engineer

So yeah if you're in a game with some dude called why_so_fat_bruh watch out cause he's a moron

[wintry cairn]

Does the difficulty of an EDD stay the same when a player leaves?

[fringe kettle]

the hazard remains the same, the scaling adjusts to the new player count

[obsidian gorge]

have to check, does that include currently spawned creatures or about to spawn ones ?

[wintry cairn]

probably about to spawn ones? just from a coding perspective it'd be weird unless they coded the scaling as a damage reduction factor?

But thats just speculatin

[fringe kettle]

I have no idea which glyphids get the new data set.

[somber jacinth]

BTW, I completed the Deep Dive and Elite Deep Dive on my first try playing with a streamer.

[fathom tulip]

Lore based campaign

[tough meadow]

Went as solo engineer, worked fine.

The small tunnels are perfect for the breach cutter

[ember hull]

Is it me or are the normal deep dives way too easy? I don't really understand the promoted dwarf entry barrier at that skill level. Would much rather have 2 harder dives per week

[tough meadow]

It's for people to get cores who can't handle the harder ones

[frank ore]

yea dd is not even haz 4

[ember hull]

Yeah I understand that, but I feel at 1 promotion having a week to get a haz 4 mission done is doable for everybody. And without promotion as a beginner it's out of question anyway

[frank ore]

its just a chill mission man i mean

a promotion dont even take that long

plus 2 weekly assignment+2 deep dive is a lot to play for some ppl

[marble veldt]

@low violet @obsidian gorge

I use a "Melee oriented" Driller set with 22132 on my CC and the Improved Thermal Efficiency OC, Barbed Drills, See You In Hell and Vampire

Cold Radiance makes it so I can basically jump head first into a swarm and freeze everything in less than a second. Then I just switch to Drills and kill everything in sight.

I could use Perfectly Tuned Cooler but I find more ammo to be more useful because I already freeze things super fast

I have the EPC with 22122 and the Heat Pipe OC to either mine or get rid of Web/Acid Spitters and/or Macteras. TCF has kind of a learning curve but helps a lot in terms of damage and crowd control (since it basically wipes out anything in range that isn't a Praetorian or another big enemy)

Ammo consumption isn't really a big deal since it's spread over my entire equipment

@low violet What you need to keep in mind is that you shouldn't use the Cryo Cannon to kill enemies but rather weaken them to finish them off with the rest of your kit.

[low violet]

Wait see you in hell works with drills?

[marble veldt]

Yup !

It works with anything doing physical damage

That includes drills, pickaxe and throwing axes

Also, Axes procc Vampire

[somber jacinth]

anything ice based makes killing oppressors STUPIDLY easy.

[marble veldt]

Agreed xD

I often close on them to lock them into an attack and use that to freeze them

Then I just throw an axe and voilà!

[low violet]

Wow I’ll have to give that a try then

[marble veldt]

It outright obliterate them in Haz 3/4 but they might survive on higher Haz

[somber jacinth]

or give them the classic Thermal Shock combo. light them on fire and then freeze them, or freeze them and light them on fire.

[marble veldt]

Heh, shattering them to pieces is more satisfying imo

I started using this build maybe a week ago and it has become one of my favorite way to play.
Plus it doubles as a Support build since it basically triples your group's firepower

Played with a Gunner using a Carpet Bomber Thunderhead last night

[wary spire]

just finished a dive and didn't get anything

what do

[night sigil]

I found something, I'm new to the game but not sure what it is

its a big circle bunker looking thing with two smaller circles on the outside of it, a couple meters away

What is it?

[frank ore]

@night sigil probably a machine event

check wiki to see pics

[night sigil]

Yea it is, thanks

[obsidian gorge]

bunker looking ?

[fringe kettle]

probably an omen

[obsidian gorge]

I would call that a tower, or cylinder

[tame verge]

Well it's a circle till you activate it

[tranquil mural]

If I repair the black box when a swarm is supposed to come in will they cancel one out or both be called?

[obsidian gorge]

I mean, based on everything we have seen about the game you will get both swarms

[heavy nebula]

Same reason you don't pull multiple eggs at about the same time...unless you're trying to stack swarms

[scarlet willow]

imagine only pulling 1 egg at a time

[static hound]

pull all eggs at the same time, swarm dont ever seem to actually stack

[tame verge]

There's a limit on how many bugs can be around at once, I assume anyway, it's probably based on number of players

[wintry kiln]

2 huuli hoarders in the regular deep dive. +100 or so of the two most rare minerals is pretty nice

[tawny latch]

lol not doing this week's EDD again

[deft mason]

If anyone wants to join me in Deep Diving in me hole, just hit me up or join, Aus here.

https://tenor.com/view/dig-grave-scrubs-digging-your-gif-5413907

[pliant girder]

Uh where are the legs for that last mule for this weeks DD

I cant find them anywhere

[marble veldt]

IIRC you have to take one all the way from the first Mule to the second

[pliant girder]

why would they fucking do this to us

[marble veldt]

🤷‍♂️

[odd comet]

There's probably one buried somewhere around the second one

Good luck finding it tho

[pliant girder]

Well there was another leg from that other mule really close by so it wasn't too bad. But that was horrible. I will complain about this for the rest of my life.

reeee

[frank ore]

DD was 😴

[proper pollen]

https://gyazo.com/16556fc8a15608dfc5d3b51e7b750feb DD in a nutshell

[vast garnet]

One dd down time for edd

[worthy prism]

lol that was easy

[tame verge]

I kinda wish they limit the nirta on Deep dives but alas I understand why it happens becuase no other minerals spawn

[glass seal]

Deep dives are friendly to people who are new to it so yeah, its understandable with the amount of nitra
But hey if they happen to stumble upon Elite Deep dives, they'll know the difference of scarce ammunition and such just like in regular missions 😄

[scarlet willow]

edd have butt loads of nitra too

edd is pretty easy if you take your time and use resupplies

like that one shield disruption magma core

[glass seal]

Well that is true

But it takes longer than regular deep dive if you do full sweep of it

[mighty hinge]

yo i just came back after several months break
did they resetr accounts
all my progress seems to be gone?!?

[fringe kettle]

esc menu, options, restore save

[mighty hinge]

hmm thx

thats so weird that they have that functionality

but cool i guess??

[obsidian gorge]

why not ?

[minor heart]

Where do I go to see details on this week's EDD?

[obsidian gorge]

it is probably on the pinned mesage, mind it may have mistakes

[granite lantern]

ctrl f " has:image in:#deep-dive-discussion "

[obsidian gorge]

but yea, the image method should be better, sometimes you have to scroll a lot though

[granite lantern]

@minor heart

https://i.imgur.com/Pe3p8sO.jpg

yea omega

thats why i already said a bunch of times

we shoulda pin the edd and dds every week

such a minimal effort for good gain

[obsidian gorge]

I have seen someone ping mod role to get that link pinned, but that is probably a bad idea

[fringe kettle]

There's a pinned spreadsheet with the historical deep dives. Both regular and elite.

[obsidian gorge]

still, pin -> current DD, should be better than pin -> open link -> current DD

[granite lantern]

yea

[obsidian gorge]

actually since there is a bot that does union stuff, why not have one for DD ? either for a command "!DD" or just to post and pin a message with the info, anything automated

[granite lantern]

^

yea like i said before

this takes minimum effort, even if manually, for great rewards

[wanton merlin]

just did a dd where we tried killing a dreadnaught with supply pods, didn't work but it was fun to try

[obsidian gorge]

not enough damage or moving toofast ?

[frank ore]

supply drop feels like does like 500 dmg or something like that

[wanton merlin]

the dreadnaught moved too fast

[granite lantern]

@frank ore 1000

[frank ore]

[fathom tulip]

Whats the carbine good for?

[obsidian gorge]

eh ?? is that one of the weapons ?

[marble veldt]

@fathom tulip Are we talking about the M1000 Classic ?

[fathom tulip]

Yeah

[marble veldt]

It's a sniper rifle

That's all there is to it really

[fathom tulip]

Okay

[obsidian gorge]

I mean you can also build it for faster firing close combat and all

or just high priority target elimination

[marble veldt]

Yeah but what's the point in that when you can build it to have one of the highest damage per shot of the entire game ?

But yeah, granted, it can be a pretty good semi auto rifle if you build for it

[scarlet willow]

sustain dps > burst dps

[marble veldt]

Tbh it always felt weird to me... Doesn't really work with the scout's mobility. I largely prefer the GK2. But I probably need to give the Classic another chance

[scarlet willow]

m1k has much much higher dps than gk2

its easier to overkill and waste ammo with m1k tho

m1k has better ammo efficiency tho

[marble veldt]

Dunno... I feel like I'm more precise and efficient with the GK2

Sure it takes 3 bullets to kill VS 1 for the M1K, but I have more ammo to make up for it

[frank ore]

one thing good about m1k is that the sound of reloading is sexy

[visual lake]

gk2 with angel rounds is pretty decent

if everyone else on your team has status modifiers

[scarlet willow]

angel rounds?

i assume you are referring to BoM

[visual lake]

yeah BoM

dmg boost makes it pretty effective esp with a cryo

[heavy oriole]

Angel Rounds 😆

[tame onyx]

i froze a mantra and then it grabbed me and spined and then i fell true the ground and the game still think im grabbed

[scarlet willow]

its a known bug

[static hound]

what is a mantra?

[granite lantern]

mactera probably

[tame onyx]

aye

[tame onyx]

question how do i report a cheater?

[versed willow]

You don't. Just block on Steam or whatever and leave the lobby.

[warm flume]

can you only do a deep dive once a week for overclocks?

[pliant girder]

Yes

This weeks EDD was pretty easy but I did not like that second stage. Shield disruption is already ass because of how sensitive you are to fall damage but its even jankier when you run so fast.

[somber jacinth]

Speed is key, but keep it reasonable!

don't want to YEET yourself to your death

[full arrow]

died 30m from the end of the EDD extraction pod. mactera swarm came in as i was activating the drop pod button

didn't make it
very unfortunate.

and i was doing so well, too

[visual lake]

Did anyone else get a lot of detonators on EDD3? Particularly around the BB room

[tribal crater]

I got two on that room.

[astral lodge]

we had one on top of the uplink, but the edd was pretty easy this week

[obsidian gorge]

for some reason the last mule leg I need for DD decided to spawn in a hard to spot location, didn't find it yet

[zinc coral]

just tried doing my first EDD and solo 😭 that went horrible on the second round

when i see videos of people doing it, they make it look so easy what the hell lol

[deft kite]

@zinc coral most people making it look easy probably have hundred of hours in game

don't beat yourself over it

and those who post video usually do it for speedrunning purposes, you have to take into account they most likely tried more than once and the video you see is a polished run of many attempts

[drifting lava]

Hows does speedrunning work? You just rush objectives and ignore mobs that can be ignored? How much nitra do u mine? Perks/actives? Etc

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[deft kite]

@drifting lava i do not speedrun myself but if i did i'd use bosco for obj and opening tunnel if swarmed, do a few run to know where i can find the ressource i need and what's optimal routing for it. probably run anything that gives you extra mobility

[torn star]

That god damn black box on 3rd stage

[rich arch]

launching EDD if you wanna join

[rich arch]

was an intense run 😮

[rocky current]

EDD mods?

nvm

godly spreadsheet

[balmy harbor]

how do you use the lfg chat

like how do you post the join link

[fringe kettle]

pinned messages should work through how to create an invite link.

[long sparrow]

what are the new DDs this week

[obsidian gorge]

you can see the countdown in the Deep Dive terminal

also, there is a pinned message with a link that you lead you to a table that has data on deep dives

[long sparrow]

which one is wihcj

[obsidian gorge]

no idea, but you can see the biome and first missions when you start a DD and check pause menu

[wraith shard]

is there a limit on how many blank cores i can get? I dont see my blank cores i get from deep dives in my hud after i complete them

[obsidian gorge]

only 1 per DD per week

[wraith shard]

😦

ty

is it the same with cosmetics?

[obsidian gorge]

I mean, the Deep Dive rewards you get for each stage you won't get again before it resets, only the exp + credits

[meager topaz]

eesh, the EDD is rough this week

[wraith shard]

@meager topaz what about it? i haven't done it yet, just solod the DD last night

[meager topaz]

bulk det madness

[wraith shard]

gdi

[fiery silo]

So I go to find a group for elite deep dive, after waiting for 5 minutes, a group finally opens

all greenbeards.

[obsidian gorge]

can't miss out on those rewards, can you ?

[merry monolith]

man I have a lot of fun with greenbeards

I'll try hard and attempt to carry

I've already done the EDD like 3-4 times so theres no pressure anyway

[stone bobcat]

so just ran an EDD where the whole squad just got molested by kickballs for the entire thing..
my hands are still shaking and I lost connection as we were moving into the 3rd phase

normally you feel safe while trying to get a res off inside of a gunner shield.. not after today I don't.
roly-polys just don't care and these were the little ones!!!!!!

[quiet wyvern]

anyone need helps with either of the Deep dives?

[grave plank]

Bulks were cruelly spawned for my team on the 1st mission of the EDD. Had a loose spawn before the uplink and 2 during the fuel cell portion. Needless to say we didnt make it.

[quiet wyvern]

@grave plank I'm sorry to hear that, it is unfortunate how Bulks can spawn at the worst times, believe me, i've been there

[obsidian gorge]

weird, while fixing mini mules and assembling the uplink I am not getting that metalic sounds anymore

[south current]

looking for a group for the EDD

tried solo (Scout) and only beat stage 1, got killed last second on stage 2

[blissful hull]

hows this weeks edd

[quiet wyvern]

not too bad, long as you have a good team, or teammate, your good

it's doable solo too

[tired grove]

I'm 2/3 for EDD, last stage we were just getting hammered too badly

[vagrant dagger]

im with @tired grove too many bulks for my team to beat stage 3

[wraith shard]

Hey I'm stuck on stage three of the deep dive for last week and can't seem to find the final mule leg

is it possible that the game wont spawn all three needed?

[fringe kettle]

it always spawns 4 per mule. I've heard that for this weeks dive they're in unusual locations.

[wraith shard]

hmm

thanks

I'm like 90% sure RNG just screwed me

I walked the entire cave

dug all around the last walker

[zinc coral]

i ran into the same situation for the normal deep dive

[wraith shard]

ye

[zinc coral]

the other leg was at the other mule location

[wraith shard]

were you able to find the missing last leg or nah?

[zinc coral]

yeah try go to the other mule location

[wraith shard]

I already searched that area pretty well but ill go back and listen close one more time

maybe ill get lucky

[obsidian gorge]

only after you dig out

[wraith shard]

Yeah what Omega said

Thanks for trying to help though

Thank you @zinc coral I found one buried under a heat vent

and thanks Dishonored

Was worried that was gonna be 50 minutes wasted haha

Speaking of

I was doing a haunted mission with a friend yesterday

we both got sandwiched between a crassius and ghost all that sweet gold gone T.T

niceeee haha

Damn was hoping for a gunner cosmetic, got one for my scout instead

[visual lake]

the past weeks EDDs with a ton of bulks is definitely gunner 201

along with engy actually needing to use LURE

to drag the bulks out

[blissful hull]

core rewards are random, yes?

[obsidian gorge]

what you get yes, not the type

[crystal thistle]

yo

[iron wraith]

I have to brag or cheer some place but I did my first EDD tonight. Also completed it solo with my Scout! Was super intense stuff! Got downed a total of three times across the entirety of it. 1 and 2 were the hardest for me. Bulks and lots of flying stuff. 2 was more manageable b/c I killed Dread first then speed ran the eggs but the swarm was tough in the corridors. I must of gotten lucky with stage three as not many big mobs spawned aside from a Menace or two. The exploders helped me thin the herd

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[random harness]

Does anyone feel that DD are not as fun as regular missions? The less-interesting objectives, no map events, no random rewarding spawns, nothing to search out like in normal maps that might have armor or bonus minerals? I think DD objectives might need a rework, in particular designing some DD-themed primary objectives (the secondaries can still be DN kills or whatever else)

[heavy oriole]

I was a little miffed by deep dives when I first tried them. I was expecting a 3 hour mega session in very complex genned caves, which would kinda feel like a major accomplishment upon completion.

Instead, I think my first one was done in 30-40 minutes.

Sure, there’s some really hard EDDs sometimes, but I think I was hoping for vastness to unseen depths

As opposed to regular missions mushed together

[wraith shard]

yeah I think it's really lame that you can't find bonuses of any kind in DD

but the cores are worth it, I guess.

I think I understand the reasoning behind it though

since it's the same seed all week

that means stuff like finds and materials could be farmed for that whole week

which would make it become played over regular missions entirely.

[frail zodiac]

deep dives in general become very stale

[wintry cairn]

I don’t really agree. They seen more intense and I’ve had a lot of fun carrying games

Also I think having two primary objectives results in some interesting spawn director behavvior

There’s less downtime and more of the core gameplay loop imo

[tough meadow]

I've been hoping for a long 3 hour complex cave. Kind of like a daggerfall dungeon. You get so lost and just trying to navigate can be an adventure

Maybe it's outside of the scope for this game though.

[heavy oriole]

I remember spending days trying to navigate those dungeons lol

Wish gaming in general kept going in that direction

[wintry cairn]

@tired grove other tips I have are use zips on first level

Knock out the center column so bugs can’t climb down from there

There’s a nitro vein on the back mini tunnel and side mini tunnel

Second level bust open the egg and drag it to the starting room. While waiting for it do not stand on the ground

Third level like I said before there’s enough morkite to skip half the level

After the BB you’ll eventually come across like a morkite vein, a branch into tight tunnel that’s kinda high up, and other morkite vein and a nitro vein

That should tip off your morkite. Then pull there muke half way up the tunnel and call it

[spark cave]

Curious...Will engy's smg electric stop or slow Youngling, correct?

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[stable flame]

dude, i'd pay top dollar for a plague doctor mask to go to one of the dwarves

[odd comet]

@spark cave Are you talking about shellbacks?

[spark cave]

Ya

[odd comet]

Because both Adult and baby shellbacks have electric resistance while rolling

And nothing will slow either of them down

[spark cave]

Oh dang

Thanks

[odd comet]

You can freeze them solid and they still roll/walk around

[spark cave]

Ah

EDD2 is brutal because small shellbacks knock us :/

[odd comet]

With the babies, all I can say is good aim and/or wait for them to stop rolling around

Adults are weak to fire, armor shred, and the BC instagibs them while walking because of how long they are

[spark cave]

Ya

[sick finch]

I heard that this week's elite dive is pretty hard. I'm going in with my green beard friend on his first elite dive today, what can we expect?

[finite lynx]

death

[somber jacinth]

and bulk detonators.

[tired grove]

Lots of death

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE - Region: Salt Pits | Code Name: Brutal Ceiling
ELITE: DEEP DIVE - Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Bad Shock

[gleaming tinsel]

Each mission positive and negative? I saw salt pits has a haunt/low Grav with Dreadnought hunt with the Dev stream

[vernal salmon]

second mission

and first is a point extraction

[mental wedge]

this week EDD map seems shorter than last week

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Salt Pits | Code Name: Brutal Ceiling
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts + 2 Eggs | Low Gravity Haunted Cave
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 1 Dreadnought | No Modifiers

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Bad Shock
Stage 1: 7 Aquarqs + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 2: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | No Modifiers
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 1 Dreadnought | Rich Atmosphere Cave Leech Cluster

[obsidian gorge]

blackbox icon is the drop pod ?

[quiet mortar]

I had to work with the Server Icons ok?

Legit best thing I could find lol

[knotty rampart]

pretty good ngl

that's pretty awesome

[quiet mortar]

Thanks! (No clue why the Dev's don't do something similar, most people here want the full list after all.)

[heavy oriole]

Stage 3 looks interesting

EDD that is

[little cove]

Rick Atmosphere

[heavy oriole]

Morty Clusters

[little cove]

Looks like another cozy EDD

[obsidian gorge]

◼️ 📡 blackbox

[heavy oriole]

Depends on 3rd stage imo

[little cove]

What's dodgy with 3rd? Doesn't seem too bad

[heavy oriole]

I play mostly 2 man, so cave leech clusters are scary

[little cove]

I see

[heavy oriole]

It doesn’t look crazy, but I can see something going wrong for us lol

[little cove]

Just outrun the tentacles

[heavy oriole]

Yah, should help

I’m kinda hoping me building up some scare for it will make it more exciting too

last few EDDs have been a bit underwhelming

So hoping I can hype myself up for this one

[little cove]

Just run without headlamp on

[knotty rampart]

yikes

[heavy oriole]

XD

“Remove all your upgrades!

“Try killing enemies only with hover boots”

“Give your teammates 40 seconds to scatter and make it a PvP mission”

[knotty rampart]

lol

[waxen verge]

me with AC:
"call an ambulance"
*pulls out elephant rounds and shield gen*
"but not for me"

[quiet mortar]

Updated it for Easier Reading.
https://discordapp.com/channels/257785731072786435/626770676573011997/743484966842925066

[little cove]

EDD really chill

There wasn't even that many cave leeches

[heavy oriole]

More chill than the last 2 weeks?

[mental valley]

I vote it should be called "Rick Atmosphere" from now on.

[knotty rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/rickroll-dance-funny-you-music-gif-7755460

[little cove]

The first felt the worst due to P.E. + Eggs, but even that wasn't bad

[frank ore]

Salt pits 3 weeks in a rowww

[heavy oriole]

The first just because it’s such lower Haz never really has caused me a problem in any deep dive

[vernal salmon]

My armpits are salty now

Too much eggs in latest EDDs

[somber jacinth]

can't have Glyphid Omelets without the eggs.

[proper axle]

For the regular deep dive - did anyone have a thing where they kept getting Glyphid bulk spawns?

I was getting 2-3 per map =_=

[near delta]

Hows the bulk density for 4mans this week? Wanna know if I should or . On a side note why the heck are and not aligned right so the can hold them?

[chrome notch]

can anyone post today’s deep dives please

wait never mind haha

[odd comet]

2 bulks on EDD stage 2

It's a salvage too, so have fun with that :3

[night knoll]

ah balls, haunted cave deep dive.

I hate that ghostygoo.

[wild shuttle]

Easier to deal with than Shield Disruption Salvage or on Magma Core... or both...

[mental valley]

Shield Disruption Salvage on Magma Core is like slapping yourself awake with a brick.

[thick pine]

@mental valley That is the truest statement I've heard all day.

[visual lake]

shield disruption salvage on magma core with rich atmo is worse

[thick pine]

The DD shouldn't be too bad though...

[visual lake]

DD was pretty chill 2P

still had 3 bulks

[thick pine]

Should be a breeze with a full team...

[visual lake]

first stage was the hariest cus of the ghost + dread

[thick pine]

Yeah, no kidding

[visual lake]

if you werent careful you could get pinned by both

[thick pine]

How were the dread rooms?

[visual lake]

the other 2 were kinda zzzz

oh bad

[thick pine]

Flat or not?

[visual lake]

not enough to fit 2 dreads

[thick pine]

Wow

[visual lake]

the rooms themeselves were bad but theres a flat room nearby

that you can draw them into

the issue is the ghost

fitting 2 inside is problematic

[thick pine]

Scout can just kite the ghost while the other folks kill the dread

[visual lake]

except he switches aggro

its not that easy

[thick pine]

True

[visual lake]

usually he ends up sitting exactly ontop of the dread

which makes things harder

as he soaks dmg

[thick pine]

Just gotta stay on your toes and keep aware

[visual lake]

which effectively increases dread ehp due to missed shots

[thick pine]

@visual lake Have you done the DD yet?

[visual lake]

nothing nearly as bad as the magma core BB haunted EDD

yeah

[thick pine]

Cool

[visual lake]

only on 2P though

oh the pod exit is in a stupid location

if you get there too early you have the bulk to worry about

ghost

[thick pine]

Is it set at a specific place on deep dives?

[visual lake]

so uhh just chill in the room before

yeah

just chill in the open before going to the exit

otherwise you'll get pinned by ghost

[thick pine]

I thought it landed in relation to the distance between it and the players

[visual lake]

not for EDD/DD

its static

[thick pine]

Huh, learn something new every day

[visual lake]

thats how people do 20 min speedruns lol

[thick pine]

That would make sense ; )

[ember hull]

Unknown horror in a solo mission has me walking backwards through the whole stage

[gleaming tinsel]

I got into a Droppod Discord here and nailed both of them in 1 go. You just need a good lead and a willing team

Good DDs never the less

[upper spindle]

apologies if this is mentioned many times elsewhere -- if I haven't done a DD before, is worth soloing one to see what it's about before just ruining some poor group? i keep reading that is a thing... but ive played a fair bit, just dont know how complicated DDs are relatively to the rest of the game. well of course now that I've typed this, it seems silly, i guess I'll go and see what happens.

oh god. it's not going well

[frail zodiac]

normal is pretty easy

[knotty rampart]

try edd on magma core full team >;)

[heavy oriole]

@upper spindle DDs are going to feel like a fun time for Haz 4 players, probably a hard time for Haz 3. It’s more fun if you play with friends in my opinion.

[upper spindle]

got it -- that explains, haven't done any haz 4

[heavy oriole]

yah, that will be on the hard side then. Which is good! Should be a lot of fun with friends around your Haz level

[upper spindle]

thanks for the comments, all!

[torpid beacon]

haven’t been on DRG for a bit, where are the deep dives this week?

[full arrow]

see pinned posts

there's a google sheet

[quartz ibex]

I'm really glad this week's EDD wasn't in Magma Core.
Third stage felt like more of a victory lap than usual in retrospect, but that might be because my team and I had a heck of a time with stage two.

[bold gust]

Don't paly with Terrorxide nor with imustbepsychic, they kick with no reason on the last EDD stage.

[frank ore]

do we have a dont play with list

[obsidian gorge]

last I heard that isn't allowed due to witch hunting stuff

[pastel depot]

the second stage of the deep dive was by far the hardest for me

at the black box it felt like the swarm would not stop coming

||not to mention the bulk||

[full arrow]

barely saw enemies at the black box...
not complaining though

just did an amazing EDD with a random player. half the team pulled out within 10 minutes of starting, but we roached it :D

blessed be the red rock blaster and its beery buffness

[wraith shard]

Is it a bad choice to focus on exploration and extra stuff in deep dives? I see many people try simply to do it as fast as possible

[full arrow]

there's just gold and nitra

the occasional huuli, golden lootbug

no crates, no helmets, no machine events, no crafting materials

the longer you stick around to mine gold the higher the chances of getting a bad enemy swarm generation (especially in missions like point extraction and mining expeditions)

so i just grab gold where i can, it's not like you can't get it elsewhere ;D

[wraith shard]

Ty, I had spent a good amount of time on my first deep dive just looking for stuff in every area unaware of such

[full arrow]

it may be because i'm not super elite like others but to me it seems the crucial resource is nitra

[wraith shard]

A pots o gold and a salt mine gold rush is all I need for easy pickings

[full arrow]

exactly!

i just get pots when i see it available, funded by regularly finding barley bulbs. it's enough where i never need to grind for credits anymore

although i have had fun on regular deep dives with pots of gold

[wraith shard]

Does the drink last through all the missions?

[fringe kettle]

it should yes

[uneven cosmos]

well stage 2 was fun when 2 bulks showed up on fuel cells out of nowhere lol

RIP

[tribal totem]

so i completed my first deep dive today and honestly the first stage was the hardest

[somber jacinth]

this week's EDD is definitely hard.

[zinc coral]

bulk, dread, and ghost all in the same tiny room..ahh fun

[quartz ibex]

This week's EDD is pretty challenging, but there have definitely been harder ones that I can remember.

[full arrow]

well stage 2 was fun when 2 bulks showed up on fuel cells out of nowhere lol
@uneven cosmos it's sometimes not that much harder than 1 bulk. if you can kill one the other will be caught in its blast and also be killed

as for them showing up out of nowhere, if they are digging you can actually spot their tunnels on the map
and bulks do make a specific noise

[gleaming tinsel]

My recent encounters with Bulks tends to be them in a static pose (metaphorical T pose), then the body disappears and the Bulk actually spawns in the exact same spot if the T posed One. It gives a solid 5-10 second heads up for me and the team.

[glossy wolf]

Was about to do the elite deep dive..... then the game crashed.

[wraith shard]

Did the EDD duo with the best rando from my prev attempt. Way easier than expected.

[glossy wolf]

Any experience is easier with a team that knows what they're doing.

[tame verge]

I did the EDD with a player rank 13 engi and a player rank 25 driller it was real fun

[uneven cosmos]

@uneven cosmos it's sometimes not that much harder than 1 bulk. if you can kill one the other will be caught in its blast and also be killed

as for them showing up out of nowhere, if they are digging you can actually spot their tunnels on the map
and bulks do make a specific noise
@full arrow oh I agree, but we were on fuel cells and they both just showed up on top of us at the same time. Really nothing we could do and no time to check map with bugs everywhere lol

EDD isn't bad if people could stay alive

[full arrow]

i don't know what it is but duo deep dives are just so much fun

[uneven cosmos]

fewer, easier enemies maybe?

[full arrow]

probably also a factor

and easier to keep track of a smaller amount of team members

[plain gazelle]

Oh man this week's EDD went so silky smooth compared to the last few weeks

Also in both the pub dd and edd I did today I was pleasantly surprised by a relatively low rank player (in the range of 10-15) playing really well and keeping it together

I guess it pays to take a gamble and accept people 70 ranks below you

Was fun when mid fight with the dreadnought in the last stage of the edd a mini praet swarm (3-4 at least) showed up out of nowhere

[heavy nebula]

all of my pub groups haven't managed to get through stage 2 of EDD this week 😦

[tribal totem]

while we're talking about duo deep dives when i finished my first dive i was with one other person
but the mission started out with a full crew so they were missing out

[somber jacinth]

I don't know if I even want to reattempt this week's EDD. Lethal Enemies on Haz 4.5 is BRUTAL.

[odd comet]

At least it's the first stage, so you don't lose much progress

Stage 2 is a little easier

[somber jacinth]

plus, there's three spitballers in there. could be a spitballer farm.

[odd comet]

And stage 3 is really just a victory lap

[scarlet tinsel]

I am pretty new to the game and having trouble on the first stage of this week's deep dive... I can't solo because the ghost always kills me

[odd sorrel]

Deep Dives are hard solo regardless

You should find a nice team to make things easier

[fervent cedar]

@scarlet tinsel what carver said

[scarlet tinsel]

I finished it solo on the 3rd try.

Just spammed my breach cutter on the dreadnoughts 🙂

[full arrow]

yeah that tends to work pretty well 😉

[plain gazelle]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Haunted elimination objectives suck and are not easy

At least there weren't any shield disruption modifiers this week

I feel like every week at least one dd or edd mission has had it for the past month

Also this was my first time bunkering, mainly because our driller was really into it, definitely a little boring. Except that one time an oppressor showed up, and that one time a bulk det showed up, that was less boring

Anyway I'm glad I got to do it at least once to see what it was like, but not my thing

[full arrow]

haunted objectives in general not my thing. don't like the constant pressure when i need to dig around

[molten frigate]

@mint island

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Haunted elimination objectives suck and are not easy
@plain gazelle

We peer pressured our scout into burning the entire map kiting the horror so the rest of our team could rush through objectives. It kept it simple. Scout didn't have fun but took one for the team.

[plain gazelle]

Yeah that'd work

I mean the map was just 1 dreadnought kill on haz 3.5 then a few eggs, easy peasy to rush through without the horror tbh

But obviously that kind of stuff only really works if you have proper voice comms and everyone's ready to go 100% for the dive, which in pubs isn't a given

Getting scout to do that kind of stuff I mean, at least in my experience

Hard enough to convince people to do their actual class's job in pubs sometimes haha

Also most of us had shield link on that dive so when things got hairy we gave it to someone and they could run around the horror without losing much health thanks to the shield boost

[molten frigate]

Oh yeah, you're absolutely right about that. I've run it twice, one on discord with the bois and another in a pub.

Scout in pub was not willing to take orders lol

[plain gazelle]

Yeah no pub scouts are wild and ferocious beings, you just have to let them to their thing

[stable trail]

That's exactly why I main scout
Can't trust anyone else to use the class correctly

Also, being fast is fun

[plain gazelle]

One time I was a scout and I was out of ammo because I had to carry (i actually outkilled the entire team, as M1K scout), and when I asked the engie for a platform to mine some nitra near the ceiling he refused because I didn't kill a menace we could hear roaming around

Then when I told him it's cause I was out of ammo he just left

Being the only competent player as scout is just as bad as not having a competent scout lol

[quaint ravine]

fuck me the elite dives are rough

got through the first mission with a group of randos, then our gunner left and we ended up getting picked off by grabbers and swarmers

[visual lake]

EDDs are pretty build dependent

[plain gazelle]

yeah you need crowd control for days

[visual lake]

If your team is specced right it’s a lot easier

Esp since this week is pretty bad for cqc folks

Like trying to use shotguns against rad praetorians is a bad idea

[quaint ravine]

yeah I typically main engi

my shotgun build has a lot more firepower and ammo than my smg, but I think I'm gonna switch

I'll be giving it another shot in a sec with some more randos

[plain gazelle]

I seem to remember there being lots of leeches on the second level of the edd

So watch out for that

Oh wait I'm misremembering that was the dd lol

[quaint ravine]

there's a good amount of them on the elite dd

I beat it though, tricky shit

[somber jacinth]

this week's EDD is BRUTAL if you're ill prepared to handle stage 1 Point Extraction with LETHAL ENEMIES.

[frank ore]

2 bulk during edd uplink stage 2 with duos

[solid hornet]

I have a question.. if I've got a squad under my lead, but one's a junior.. do they get booted if I start a DD, or do they just not get the extra benefits?

[somber jacinth]

if you have an unpromoted dwarf in your squad you get "Attention! Deep Dives are only available to Promoted Classes!"

[solid hornet]

ah.. so you also have to use a promoted dwarf for it?

or just have one.

[somber jacinth]

all players in a Deep Dive need to have at least 1 Promoted Dwarf.

[solid hornet]

alright, was curious if I HAD to use my Driller.

[obsidian gorge]

you can only play with a promoted class

the only thing you can play with a not promoted class is Machine Events. if you have a promoted class, not the case for Deep Dives though

[solid hornet]

I mained my Driller, haven't gotten my Gunner and Scout through their qualifications

ok so anything not on the regular mission board I have to use my driller and my whole team has to be running promoted dwarves.

[tranquil adder]

Keep in mind while you can indeed do Machine Events without a promoted class, you can't activate them in the first place unless you have a promoted teammate.

[obsidian gorge]

or promoted class yourself

[feral atlas]

stage 1 PE with lethal enemies is still stage 1

it's still kiddie mode

[somber jacinth]

not everyone plays Haz 5 with mutators all the time man. Stage 1 is still brutal if you get stunlocked.

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[plush mantle]

do deep dive change every week?

[scarlet willow]

yes

[plush mantle]

so the devs make a new map every time

[scarlet willow]

i doubt they “make” a new map

the game is procedurally generated

[obsidian gorge]

the caves are procedurally generated, did you think all the missions you have played were handcrafted ?

[scarlet willow]

they might check the map and make sure its doable

but im sure its just tweaked cave gen

[plush mantle]

oh i thought they made every map i ever played minecraft style

[scarlet willow]

minecraft is procedurally generated too

they dont make the maps

[plush mantle]

really? i thought someone had made all of those maps

[scarlet willow]

tf

[plush mantle]

next thing you're telling me someone isn't controlling all of the bugs in this game

[obsidian gorge]

that is just confusing

[scarlet willow]

no im the guy controlling bugs

im the grabber that always gets to you omega sentinel

[pliant girder]

For stage 1 for this EDD I recommend leaving the eggs for last.

Mine the aquarq then pull out both eggs at the same time. Then kite the mega wave coming at you until the pod arrives.

[pliant girder]

Alright managed to solo it. Had to redo the first stage a bit to learn the layout. Stage two and three are pretty easy and straightforward.

[bronze sonnet]

after many hours of play time, to summarize drg: magma haz5 egg hunt 8 shield disruption volatile guts

[tame verge]

I will gut myself before I willingly play that mission

[pine pawn]

I remember haz 5.5 magma core shield disruption salvage

[tame verge]

it was tense, Bulk spawning during the fuel cells

[balmy harbor]

deep rooooooooock

[dull copper]

Anyone up to helping me get this weeks DD's?

I'm in EU

[pliant girder]

I don't get how exploder infestation is a negative mutator but volatile guts isn't.

Especially since exploders are way easier to deal with.

[scarlet willow]

you dont control exploders outside of kiting

you can control volatile gut explosions

[obsidian gorge]

does exploder infestation remove grunts or just adds more enemies

[frank ore]

I feel like they generate on their own cuz they usually sneak up on ya in the middle of nothing

[fringe kettle]

exploder infestation just creates individual waves of exploders similar to mactera plague

volatile guts works more as a benefit to the team than a negative unless you let the enemies get right on top of you.

[somber jacinth]

ELITE DEEP DIVE COMPLETED

[stable trail]

Woo!

Time to do the same myself

[somber jacinth]

this EDD will require a lot of good comms between team members, and ping out any cave leeches you see.

[zinc coral]

ahhh its just so chaotic at the second stage in that cave u first encounter 😭

[visual lake]

Exploder infestation is really only deadly on magma core and rad

[frank shuttle]

or when you take your headphones off for a second to take a very important phone call

[odd comet]

^

[obsidian gorge]

getting a bit complicated to deal with Swarmers when there is a Menace to deal with

[cobalt dawn]

I never want to do another haunted cave dreadnaught again

especially in such a cramped place as salt pits

my team just stood there like lunks in front of the dread cocoon, dodging the ghost bulk

i started the dread, finished it, and then a real bulk appears where we came from, with ghost bulk too close to us

it felt as hard as elite

[rotund veldt]

The key to dodging haunts is to just go through a tunnel, they can't dig like regular bulks. The dreadnaught can though, I think

[scarlet willow]

ghost does dig