#deep-dive-discussion

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ancient cove
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I think normal deep dive is Haz 4, Haz 4.5, Haz 5 for mission 1, 2 and 3 respectively

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Or it might be 3.5 - 4.5 with the same pattern

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The first two missions should be easier, and the third mission will either be haz 5 or a bit easier, i'll double check

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Oh regular is 3, 3.5, 3.5 for hazard apparently. @shadow parcel

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EDD Is 4.5, 5, 5.5

shadow parcel
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so if you can do haz 4 comfortably then deep dives should be fairly straightforward?

ancient cove
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Yeah, just longer and a couple of them will have warnings. Shield disruption is my least favorite in a deep dive

shadow parcel
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thanks!

pliant girder
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Regular deep dives are pretty easy.

opal lynx
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hi all, and im sorry if this is asked constantly, but what exactly is a deep dive? And when should i start doing them? (I have promoted a class)

obsidian gorge
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it is a 3 stages long mission, each stage you have to complete 2 main objectives (such as morkite + eggs) , every time you complete a stage the first time (per week) you get a special reward, and the map is always the same for everyone, the difficulty is fixed too, being haz 3 - 3.5 - 3.5 for regular dives, and 4.5 - 5 - 5.5 for Elite, you access them after you promote a dwarf, which you will get by playing and reaching level 25

opal lynx
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nevermind i scrolled up lol

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even though I unlocked it on a toon, does it really matter what level the class is for a deep dive? I.e. I promoted my engi, but my gunner is lvl 17 with all guns unlocked

wraith shard
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im french !!!!!!!!!!!!!

fringe kettle
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You can only do a deep dive with a promoted character.

obsidian gorge
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you can only used promoted classes

fringe kettle
wraith shard
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im french sorry

opal lynx
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okay thank you

bright harbor
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I fucking hate the Ghost.

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There's no reason for it to be in the game.

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You can't kill it, stop it, run from it, or even slow it down.

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It's the worst thing in the game right now and needs to go.

ocean plaza
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You can run from it, and slow it down using electricity iirc

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It's one of the only modifiers that gives you a good challenge

bright harbor
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Good challenge my ass.

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If you're stuck in a room trying to kill a Dreadnaught, you can't leave.

ocean plaza
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If you pay attention, you can easily avoid it

bright harbor
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You have an invincible monster killing you constantly and there's nothing to stop it. It needs to be removed.

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There are times when it can't be avoided.

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It traps you.

ocean plaza
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Kite the dreadnought to a larger room so you can kite the ghost and the dreadnought

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Or play with others so that the focus is split between players

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The dreadnought and the ghost

bright harbor
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I was.

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It didn't make a difference.

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The room was destroyed, we had lava all over the floor, earth quakes slowed us down and we couldn't run.

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It was a non stop barrage of being helpless and picking up downed team mates. Nothing could be done.

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If we don't die, we run out of ammo, then we die.

ocean plaza
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Well there is the problem, lava caverns is the hardest biome, so of course the ghost is going to be a challenge to face

bright harbor
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My point is that it's unnecessary. It needs to be removed from the game.

ocean plaza
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If the game didn't have a wrench to throw at you, the game would get stale.

pliant girder
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It's just a one off thing you need to do once. EDDs are meant to be challenging.

ocean plaza
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The harder the challenge, the more rewarding overcoming it is

pliant girder
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Best bet is to just have one guy aggro it and bait it away from the rest of the team.

ocean plaza
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If you want a possible solution, kite the ghost to the other side of the map from the dreadnought, then quickly run to the dreadnought and get as much damage in as possible before the ghost shows up

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^^Also what @pliant girder said^^

grave fox
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my guys just did the first elite dive mission then failed the second one because mactera are terrible

ocean plaza
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@grave fox did they use the caves or a driller bunker to combat the mactera?

pliant girder
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Yea they spawn out of thin air and can kill you instantly. Gunner shield is good. Driller does decent damage. And cryo grenades can kill a swarm in one hit.

grave fox
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we tried to lure them above the guisers

ocean plaza
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Above the geysers?

grave fox
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yeah the lava geysers it works pretty well

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theres a cave early on with 2 geysers and its good

ocean plaza
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That sounds challenging to get them to fly over the geysers and stay there until the geysers erupt

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Doable, but challenging

grave fox
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we didn't have any particular tactic

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we also accidentally summoned the 2 dreadnoughts simultaneously but still pulled through rock & stone

ocean plaza
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Mactera are weakest in close tunnels where they have to funnel in

grave fox
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the trouble is we didn't have enough nitra for the second stage

ocean plaza
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Stay in cover and force them to come to you through small tunnels, and the fight will be easier

grave fox
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thats true

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but its hard to dodge the projectiles then

ocean plaza
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The driller can also make a panic bunker to escape the onslaught of mactera

grave fox
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i've never found panic bunkers very effective

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it just sort of backs you in to a corner

ocean plaza
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It's harder to dodge projectiles, but they are more closely packed, allowing you to do more damage to them and allow less of them to attack at the same time

pliant girder
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You can deal with them defensively by having a wall or bunker to block their shots but I prefer burst aoe damage. They bunch up so just hit them really hard.

grave fox
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and if an opressor wanders into your bunker then you're toast

ocean plaza
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Yeah, if an oppressor shows, you gotta drill out of the bunker

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The driller has to be aware of a possible escape at all times

grave fox
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which seems to happen every time my guy makes a safety hole

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my driller plays sort of glass-cannony because he has the slow overclock

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we might try it again with the cryo cannon

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often our best tactic is to have the gunner set up ziplines out of harms way and have the gunner and the driller stay up there while me and the scout zip around taking care of stragglers

bright harbor
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A monkey wrench that can be pulled out and fixed is fun. There's nothing fun about an invincible enemy.

grave fox
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this doesn't work with mactera as they all fly and shoot projectiles

bright harbor
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There's nothing fun about something you can't defeat. It's a waste of time and does nothing but cause frustration.

grave fox
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its the only enemy like it in the game i think it makes for a fun challenge

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especially since one of the team members can be used to lure it away while the rest fight the dreadnaughts

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i dont know if this is a controversial opinion or not but the dash active ability is suuuper useful when dealing with the ghost

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all my dwarfs except scout have the dash equipped then just zoom away from any fatal explosion (dreadnaught, bulk detonator etc.)

bright harbor
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There's nothing fun about this.

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Endless waves of bugs is fun.

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Swarms are fun.

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Traps are fun.

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Digging for lost treasure is fun.

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Puzzles are fun.

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Invincible enemies you can't kill or lose is terrible. I hate it and it needs to be removed.

grave fox
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??? you could not play those missions

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im aware its hard this time because its one of the deep dives but there are hundereds of other mission types to play

ocean plaza
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When faced with an obstacle that you cannot overcome, you can either avoid it or change how you play.

bright harbor
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It's a deep dive.

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I have to play it.

ocean plaza
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All four characters have movement abilities that can be used to avoid the ghost

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The scout can quickly escape, the gunner can zipline out of reach

grave fox
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shield can repel ghost and you can use ziplines out of the range of its explosion to basically make it null

ocean plaza
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The driller can tunnel away from it faster than it can tunnel to the driller

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The engineer can try his best

grave fox
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thats me : D

pliant girder
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Yea the ghosts are really annoying but it's only a one time thing. You won't encounter it outside of EDDs much.

ocean plaza
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This game rewards creativity and awareness

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I highly doubt a ghost is impossible to overcome

grave fox
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once you figure it out its super manageable

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of all the warnings i think lethal enemies is the worst to be honest

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last weeks elite deep dive was impossible because of the lethal enemies + nayaka trawler combo

pliant girder
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I'd say mactera = lethal > ghost

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At least glyphids don't spawn out of thin air and insta kill you.

grave fox
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mactera is pretty terrible yeah

pliant girder
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Plus you can kite melee enemies. Can't kite mactera.

grave fox
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i swear they are like the most accurate projectilers in the whole game

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grabbers and gooers aren't even that bad compared to like,, 20 mactera spawn

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its like,, "oh you exist without cover? cool you are no longer alive"

quartz sable
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It might be nice if they didn't get so close.

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I think that adds to why they're so hard to dodge.

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Making it so you could survive more than two of their shots would be nice too though.

onyx elk
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what are deep dives?

obsidian gorge
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@onyx elk it is a 3 stages long mission, each stage you have to complete 2 main objectives (such as morkite + eggs) , every time you complete a stage the first time (per week) you get a special reward, and the map is always the same for everyone, the difficulty is fixed too, being haz 3 - 3.5 - 3.5 for regular dives, and 4.5 - 5 - 5.5 for Elite, you access them after you promote a dwarf, which you will get by playing and reaching level 25

onyx elk
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oh i see

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thank you

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i still got a while to go then

obsidian gorge
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np

lofty wing
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spitballers are almost as bad as mactera

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but at least you can shoot the projectile

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a lot of people seem to forget that

granite lantern
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spitballers are way less worse than mactera in general

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spitballers give you hell in unfortunate circumstances

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macteras give you hell regardless

grave fox
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spitballers can be dealt with with the engie's breach cutter with relative ease on any difficulty

knotty rampart
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relative

obsidian gorge
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isn't that ammo better spent on other situations

knotty rampart
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No

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It shreds spittballers like karl

red pine
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Finally some easy dives

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Been hard ones the last month or so in comparison

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Having no black box is 😍

lofty wing
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Finally finished a solo EDD

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Feels good

obsidian gorge
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shot in the back to my final death while heading to drop pod

austere prism
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I almost finished a DD solo. But there is a bug that can get you stuck in the ramp if it extends while you're in the way. lol

knotty rampart
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Rip

manic pivotBOT
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knotty rampart
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Good bot

urban yarrow
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thank you mission control

kindred wing
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Mission control, the real mvp

pine sapphire
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Still stuck on round 3 EDD 😦

knotty rampart
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F

fringe kettle
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Try duos. It’s the easiest combination of people since the difficulty barely scales up from solo.

granite lantern
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^

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Make sure to have iron will though

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otherwise yall might get instagibed

quiet wyvern
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I'm surprised we had a haunted cave on this one, wasn't bad tho, it's just that the ghost constantly chased after me, and only "me" throughout the stage

rotund veldt
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Is there additional rewards after you finish a DD? Kinda want to help greenbeards to get their cores but having no material drop is a hardsell

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Or loot crate/terrain scanners

junior fossil
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only other rewards from cores are the exp and credits

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and the hulihoarder if they spawn

clear fossil
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Deep dives are fun

rotund veldt
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How much is the EDD worth in terms of credit and xp? Worth it to farm those missions just for those?

kindred wing
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you dont get minerals

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so prolly not worth it

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it's the same amount as doing 3 missions

rotund veldt
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Aww, might as well run Hazard 5s then but everyone that joined me ran on the first wave

glacial kestrel
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Am I the only one that thinks that this weeks EDD was really exhausting in terms of length? The 2nd Stage made us insane, how deep we need to dig 😄

willow salmon
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To the core if needed

cedar zinc
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Gotta dig deep and greedily

graceful portal
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can someone tell me what are this white rockets in the mission overview in every area?

obsidian gorge
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iirc numbers of games in that area (with other players)

vivid leaf
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when is the next deep dive?

obsidian gorge
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you can check how much time is left in the Deep Dive terminal

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reset day is Thursday

surreal nymph
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Hooooooo boy

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The first stage of this weeks EDD is brutal

quiet wyvern
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I use to think the dives and assignments reset at 7am EST, but it's now 8amEST, or my time that is

dull silo
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first stage rewards going fast a lot, if you hustle you wont need to deal with the ghost at all during the first dread

granite lantern
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you can also uh

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bring multiple engies

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and nuke both dreads at once with BC

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it pays off

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actually i'd bring a gunner with lead spray for no other purpose but stage 1

prisma pilot
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any tips for this weeks edd

odd comet
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Don't die. It's bad for your health and your mission completion.

dull silo
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^ good advice

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have something to deal with magthera plague in stage 2 is the only real thing i can think off

obsidian gorge
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best thing on stage 2 was getting grunt swarm uwu

pine sapphire
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I’ve died at start of edd 3 about 10 times total wipe it’s aggravating af

rapid bone
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tfw you're on the escape pod countdown for the salvage as last mission and a detonator big boi shows up and camps your fuel line

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oh and you're solo

pallid wigeon
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Can you keep doing Deep dives over and over?

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I was under the impression it was once a week

kindred wing
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you get exp/money for it

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buit you dont get the core rewards

pallid wigeon
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but you only get the rewards once per week?

obsidian gorge
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exactly, once per stage / per week

craggy dew
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when do deep dive rewards reset?

obsidian gorge
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thursday

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but you can see the timer on the Deep Dive terminal

craggy dew
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thank you

terse rampart
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I just went on my first deep dive Dirt_Diggers

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I knew that the deep dives and the forge were later game content and I still feel like I'm scratching the surface (terrible pun)

clear fossil
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@terse rampart ha

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Anyone have an elite deep dive I can join? I don't have to join party if y'all don't want me to

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(on Xbox and Im a scout)

ember badger
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what are deep dives?

wanton cloak
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3 consecutive missions that reward a blank core, weapon overclock core, and a cosmetic core, each earned in that order after the end of each level

pine sapphire
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Missions that you find the worst people to group with and fail over n over with 👍

somber jacinth
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Normal Deep Dives go like so. Haz 3, Haz 3.5, Haz 3.5

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Elite Deep Dives go like so. Haz 4.5, Haz 5, Haz 5.5

slender moon
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and they have 2 primary objectives (morkite, mules, aquarqs, dreadnoughts, eggs) and no secondary

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and the nitra/gold you gather carries over to the next stage

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but so does your current ammo

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also, active perks are refreshed between stages

clear fossil
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Anyone wanna be a third to an EDD?

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On xbox

wraith shard
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Hi, i just got dropped 1 range and 3 levels... somebody had the same prob? it's like the game didnt sync well and all my progress from yesterday its gone

fringe kettle
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You can check your save backups in options and restore save.

wraith shard
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cant click on them

tame verge
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Did a bulk spawn on anyone else during the EDD stage 2?

slate pine
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wow it's all potato teammates today T_T

toxic pike
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I'm new to the game but is there a open world portion without a mission just free to mine at will

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?

versed willow
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No and wrong channel.

digital comet
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My goodness. How can someone be so unlucky.
I tried the EDD with a friend yesterday. Stage one was already annoying but challenging and we were relieved to see stage two but then a damn dreadnought spawns as a wave!

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I've seen this happen only 7 or 8 times in 600 hours. The game hates me

tranquil adder
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That's what I say for every assignment I start.

manic pivotBOT
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rose ledge
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is big bertha better than the aoe oc

granite lantern
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@rose ledge wrong chat, and no

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But you can pick those preference wise

crystal gate
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Did anyone do the EDD this week with four players and have no ghost bulk on the first stage?

rose ledge
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oh didnt mean to pick dd chat

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ment discussion

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mb

blissful hull
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I gotta wrap this EDD up

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i need the last 2 cores

dull silo
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My goodness. How can someone be so unlucky.
I tried the EDD with a friend yesterday. Stage one was already annoying but challenging and we were relieved to see stage two but then a damn dreadnought spawns as a wave!
@digital comet I wish we'd see these more, depending on your team comp they can either be a lot easier or a lot harder than other types of waves

wraith shard
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4 driller teams are guaranteed success

normal hull
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Do deep dives refresh today or tomorrow?

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Can’t remember which

obsidian gorge
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thursday

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you can check the timer on the Deep dive terminal

knotty rampart
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At 8am est

blissful hull
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what time do deep dives refresh

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oh

steady ibex
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What would be the best way to get a squad for deep dives?

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Sorta new and know that coordination might not be the best in pubs

obsidian gorge
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slow bramble
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should i do my first deep dive solo?

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im confident in hazard 4

obsidian gorge
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you will be fine

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but if you prefer coop...

ocean plaza
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@slow bramble If you can handle Haz4, the DD is easy solo

ancient mica
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I am not confident at hazard 4. turns out rifle bullets are made of silly putty, and dwarves are made of flesh.

obsidian gorge
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well, Deep dives are haz 3 - 3.5 - 3.5 , so there is that

ocean plaza
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@ancient mica You got a pickaxe, thats all you need

ancient mica
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Damn you, you're right. Rock and Stone.

simple grotto
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Hey guys

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I jsut did my first ever Solo Deep Dive. It was hell lot of fun, however, at Stage 3, I had to get 2 eggs and fix 2 mini-mules. All good, until I didn't get to the drop pod. I was raided by a huge swarm, which is fine, but I had a Bulk Explorer come and just stand in the triangulation zone. Impossible to do solo. Was thinking if you have any tips, because it's a bit too much to have that bad boy rolling in the middle while you're being swarmed

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Overall it wouldn't be a problem if not for the fact that if you lose all Triangulation Progress you insta-fail as Solo

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paper finch
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random bulks in salvage are the bane of all

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there's little you can do

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depending on how far or how close it spawns

simple grotto
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kinda sucks

lapis ridge
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@simple grotto this job is for Engineer. Any big guys (even Detonator) are just melted by Breech cutter, usually I even don't have to leave triangulation zone.

simple grotto
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Hey @lapis ridge ! Would you advice doing solo content as Engineer then?

lapis ridge
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Well, I did it multiple times. Pro players do solo speedruns with driller, but I feel more comfortable with engi🙂

simple grotto
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oki 😄

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I'm maining scout due to his mobiility

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but I found out that on Bosses it's hard

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especially without crygo nates

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cryo*

odd comet
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Well, the problem is the whole 'solo' part. In a team, one or two people can go pull the bulk away from the uplink and deal with it while the others keep charging, but you can't really do that solo.

dull silo
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Scout really depends on his IFG grenades and on Iron will to deal with a bulk during an uplink. it's not as comfortable as for engineer, but you can definitely deal with (atleast one) bulk consistently that way

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uncut raptor
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let's get this bread

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i wonder how hard the EDD will be this week

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DD in Dense Biozone

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EDD in Sandblasted Corridors

wraith shard
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Doesn't sound too bad

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Not being in magma is a plus

uncut raptor
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magma core sucks, agreed

elder frost
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anyone else stuck on old DDs, and have -20 mins for refresh

uncut raptor
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restart the game

wraith shard
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i had -7 minutes and old DDs 20 minutes ago, yeah. restart the game

wraith shard
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dense biozone?
yup, it's cringe time

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anyone got pics of the EDD modifiers?

ancient cove
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Shortly

wraith shard
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DD will be a stroll, usually is.

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The EDD I'm curious about.

red pine
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Dense blindzone

ancient cove
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How do you post a picture lol

granite lantern
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Use a link

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@ancient cove

ancient cove
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Ty @granite lantern

wraith shard
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Is black box bugged again or no?

granite lantern
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no they fixed it

wraith shard
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Okay

ancient cove
wraith shard
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No more freebies

ancient cove
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That EDD, took out names since everyone else seems to

wraith shard
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Fair enough

fading rampart
dull silo
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no uplinks stage 3 = freebie @wraith shard

wraith shard
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Oooh

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Neato

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Lol

dull silo
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who do think will get sticky flame first out of the two of us

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cause if its me, im gonna remind you of it a lot.

wraith shard
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Yuck, shield disruption

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That stage is gonna suck

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@dull silo If you do I'm gonna be pissed lol

dull silo
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You can probably skip mining nitra entirely on the second stage it you're worried about shield disruption

maiden merlin
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Ouch, shield disruption is savage

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Just tried it, while there is a bulk detonator in it

granite lantern
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@dull silo @wraith shard so are you 2 available today

wraith shard
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I'm gonna try soloing this EDD and see if I'm able to this weem or not.

granite lantern
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Ouch, shield disruption is savage
no, its egg hunt

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theres no uplink

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oh shit

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i missread as '' is salvage ''

wraith shard
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But I should be available tonight

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Don't know the time.

dull silo
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Rough estimate?

wraith shard
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Right now I can't as I have a meeting (separate from work) when I get home and I don't know the time off hand.

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It's why first thing I'll solo the DD to get that finished.

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Then if it goes quick I'll let you guys know.

granite lantern
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im gonna start the edd by myself now

wraith shard
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Okay

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I would in your shoes

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So not even mad

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so stage 2 is really bad

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others arent so bad unless RNG decides to spawn a few detonators lmao

digital owl
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yeah the teamkill damage was fun too thanks @wraith shard

wraith shard
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ok driller whomst freezes teammates in corridors

digital owl
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okay buddy if I didn't freeze everything around us we'd be screwed

worthy prism
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elite deep dive 2nd mission is easy

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just stay together lmao

granite lantern
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oh good

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edd 2nd stage took me near 20 minutes

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fucking noiseless grabber dropped me all the way to the main cave from spawn

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gsg fix your grabbers thanks

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other than that, the run is pretty good so far

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I like the 2nd stage

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...too many spitters tho

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and like 4 menaces

granite lantern
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this run was not so bad

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shitty time but i'll take it

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could be sub 30 maybe but stage 2 😔

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also four downs on stage 3 lul

fading rampart
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damn, that stage 2 EDD had a lot of Sand Sharks, Oppressors and 2 Bulks >_>

uncut raptor
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think i'm gonna try and solo the EDD for once

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cus i usually duo

tame verge
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When I did the EDD stage two we got 3 bulks

feral atlas
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This edd is pretty tame.

tame verge
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Yeah only problem was the stage two because of the shield disrupt but even that was easy

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The past month of EDD have been pretty easy

fast nexus
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How do you change your title thing for DDs? I see people with group titles like "Don't press the button until everyone is ready" and stuff

fading rampart
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you can change it in the options menu somewhere iirc

fallow spruce
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Just finished "EDD Duo" with my friend Beni No Overclocks No weapon/armor mods RnS

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build XD

coral tulip
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that EDD stage 2 was rough

somber jacinth
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at least this time there's no bloody black box on stage 2. though TBH, I'm tired of seeing Shield Disruption on Deep Dives.

coral tulip
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if that black box had been on shield disrupt, it would have been awful

somber jacinth
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I'm usually able to get 2 of 3 stages of the Weekly EDD done. my first COMPLETED Elite Deep Dive was Total Fissure in Glacial Strata.

idle lance
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feels great getting kicked on the 2nd stage of an EDD because you go down once

fading rampart
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I guess that's a benefit to playing solo notnice

odd comet
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Ugh

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That feeling when you disconnect in the middle of the EDD

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Looked like we were gonna clear it too

tame verge
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it's pretty easy besides some bits on the second stage

scarlet willow
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second stage was annoying

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the first and last were easy

feral atlas
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just don't get hit

scarlet willow
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making the game harder isnt garbage design but ok

wraith shard
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purge 2

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purge 4

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purge 4

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purge 5t

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purge 6

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shit lol

fading rampart
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stage 2 just had a lot of stuff

wraith shard
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Okay, time to try the EDD solo

feral atlas
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shieldless on egg hunt is pretty tame all things considered

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you control swarm timing

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there's nitra everywhere

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and you have a huge arena to work with

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the biggest swarm you're likely to see is the welcome part, and for that part you have the drop pod armor

tame verge
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I mean could be worse, could have been a uplink mission.

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At this point though I hardly notice shield disruption now

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just tell the engi to be careful with the Return to Sender BC and that was really it

odd comet
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@feral atlas I beg to differ

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As we were clearing out the large room, before popping any eggs, we had a massive swarm spawn on us with two bulks

feral atlas
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and what was your engi doing?

odd comet
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Like, it was big enough to be an entire haz 3-4 swarm by itself

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Trying to pick up the gunner and driller who got swarmed by grunts

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While I kited the bulks around

feral atlas
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I normally only play Haz5, with the more drastic mutators on

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compared to shieldless salvage, shieldless egg hunts are extremely controllable

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it honestly just sounds like the team was weak

odd comet
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Well, yeah

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None of them were above 75

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But we were managing until I lagged out and disconnected

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Ran into engi again in my next EDD, he said everything fell apart after I DCed

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:p

feral atlas
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there are teams that treat this as normal

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and teams that are constantly trying to not immediately fail

odd comet
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Eh

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I can play Haz 5

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I just don't enjoy it

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And if you aren't enjoying the game, then what's the fucking point?

feral atlas
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there isn't, unless there is a reward at the end

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whcih is one issue I have the the reward design of dives

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they push you to play difficulties you don't like, with players you might not want to be with

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on biomes you might hate, with mutators you might also hate

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or missions types you hate

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of course without the reward the game mode has no reason to exist

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but the existance of the rewards is why you see shakey players in EDD that have 0 reason to be on a difficulty they can't handle

wraith shard
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Okay

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Those leeches in stage 2 need to fuck right off

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That and the seemingly endless stream of bugs

feral atlas
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there's leeches in stage 2?

wraith shard
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Yeah

feral atlas
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hm, we must have just killed them too quickly

wraith shard
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Maybe

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I'm not the greatest at soloing the EDD yet

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Usually stage 2 takes me out on EDD because I get cocky.

odd comet
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There were at least 2

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Our gunner walked into both of them

scarlet willow
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theres 3 leeches in stage 2 isnt there

twilit apex
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surprisingly, the hardest part of this week's EDD was facing 2 detonators on shieldless. Everything else was fine.

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someone even said "wait, this is elite?"

wraith shard
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Yeah I had 3 detonators on shieldless when I did it but we pulled through. The 1st and 3rd stages were pretty easy thankfully

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goddamn this edd is tough. second stage completed

wraith shard
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a bit challenging. me like

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second stage is a bitch

naive forum
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any tips for elite dive digger?

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this week

wraith shard
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Get Dark Morkite if you can because it makes stages 1 and 3 easy as, 2nd stage is a bitch so don't split up if you can avoid it and kill menaces ASAP. Watch out for leeches on stages 2 and 3, and detonators on stage 2

scarlet willow
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i had dark morkite

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left after the clearing out the black box room

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before the first wave

wraith shard
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yeah same

granite lantern
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on the topic above

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I played solo and only found 1 leech

knotty rampart
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@granite lantern scaling the spawns

granite lantern
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ik

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I was just saying

knotty rampart
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Oh

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Kk

radiant summit
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What is dark morkite?

tawdry crater
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shield disruption is actual cancer

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not doing this week's edd

scarlet willow
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its a beer buff

lusty flower
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That Edd was evil

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Takes a lot of teamwork

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Honestly have to tryhard

somber jacinth
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how the hell do people solo the EDD every damn week?

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do the devs have a shield disruption fetish or something? I am genuinely curious. if there's gonna be shield disruption, it needs to be coupled with Critical Weakness if you ask me.

somber jacinth
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that, or Shield Disruption needs to be at the end.

plush wind
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lol did edd with just two players

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everyone else was down and i just called the pod at the end of 2nd stage and made a run for it

eager fox
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Shield Disruption is why I equip my dwarves with Vampire and the Red Sugar perk ahead of dives with those modifiers. So annoying and my least favourite modifier.

plush wind
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it's hard, so that's why its in edd

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lol @ the trap at one of the last cave though

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but thankfully that last cave on the 2nd stage also gave us extra nitra to make through the beginning of stage 3

wraith shard
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THAT'S WHAT I FORGOT TO EQUIP

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The red sugar perk

maiden merlin
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did the EDD with only two other players, was satisfying teamwork 🙂

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One of the guys got dc'ed right when we called the pod for the end of the third level, he added us as a friend and we waited for him to make sure he gets rewarded for his hard work

granite lantern
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how the hell do people solo the EDD every damn week?
gotta get good

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its not fun playing slow, walking on eggshells, suffering from fall damage, etc
@craggy prairie you know you dont really have to do that right

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shield disruption gives you a health boost

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you can try to go through it normally just fine

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sometimes you can even forget you have disruption

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In fact shield disruption is not entirely bad

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It makes you more tanky to consecutive attacks

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also red rock blaster + shield disruption is a ton of hp

wraith shard
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@granite lantern So, would you say the best tactic is to just go for it and not worry about getting every bug cleared?

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Because in solo I tend to worry more about that.

dull silo
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Usually only clear prio targets, even with driller

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Can just use sticky slow to cc the rest while you do important stuff

wraith shard
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Hmm, alright. So ranged and big bois

woven sinew
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What are the buffs/debuffs of this week's EDD?

maiden merlin
woven sinew
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👍 cheers

vestal moss
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Can anybody tell me what the difference between “triple filters fuel” and “unfiltered fuel” is

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I know triple filtered upgrades your heat but what exactly does heat do

obsidian gorge
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make things burn when the heat is high enough

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each creature got a different burn temperature, and they stay burning for different ammounts of time too, basically

vestal moss
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Oh cool thanks

wraith shard
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heat is the status effect modifier

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higher heat makes them burn faster

somber jacinth
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the Gunner had a CLUTCH Iron Will save

granite lantern
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cool :>)

somber jacinth
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I am NOT running the dive again. uh-uh.

maiden hound
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Guys sorry if this is asked frequently but how can I tell when there's a new Deep Dive? Like I did my first one yesterday but don't remember the name, so can I look somewhere to see when it's refreshed? Maybe the clock below the mission's name? thanks

somber jacinth
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there's a timer in the Deep Dive terminal.

maiden hound
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oh ok. So as long as it's empty means I haven't done the mission yet. Thanks

somber jacinth
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yea

maiden hound
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🙂

somber jacinth
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the Elite Deep Dive is EVIL.

maiden hound
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Yeah I'm used to H3 normal missions and the regular DD was fine in terms of difficulty

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H4 destroys me so I have a long way to go before an EDD haha

somber jacinth
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EDD goes Haz 4.5, Haz 5, Haz 5.5

maiden hound
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yup was reading that on the wiki

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soo not yet 😆

granite lantern
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Guys sorry if this is asked frequently but how can I tell when there's a new Deep Dive? Like I did my first one yesterday but don't remember the name, so can I look somewhere to see when it's refreshed? Maybe the clock below the mission's name? thanks
@maiden hound the deep dive always changes at the same time

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one day and nine hours ago, it changed

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so yea every thursday

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same goes for the weekly assignments

maiden hound
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Ahh so its global

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Thank you

buoyant pewter
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This weeks elite deep dive mission 2 is absolute crap/ Shield disruption is brutal

brittle kestrel
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2nd week doing elite deep dives and shield disruption is really rough. i really love this game, but i would appreciate some tips.

knotty rampart
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@brittle kestrel i got tips if you like. What specifically are you having trouble with

brittle kestrel
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@knotty rampart proper comp and strategy for the elite deep dive. stage 1 is cake, stage 3 also does not look bad. stage 2 is really rough. I'm running scout gunner with a buddy. Is there a better combo? We try to carry over 2 supply pods from the first stage for some extra hp, but we struggle to get all the eggs before getting overwhelmed.

knotty rampart
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Yes definitely a better combo

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Always have at least engi or driller since they both have fantastic traversal tools while retaining good firepower

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And gunner is good for some traversal and really big guns

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Scout isn't a good choice unless you've got a full team since he really doesn't have very good firepower

scarlet willow
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if ur not running scout be careful of the leeches that spawn

knotty rampart
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Should you not be careful of leeches otherwise? :p

scarlet willow
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well no its just with scout u should light up every new cave

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usually spotting leeches in big caves isnt too hard as long as u shoot a flare up

knotty rampart
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Yep

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With no scoot you just gotta be quick

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If they start reaching down for you

buoyant pewter
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The only challenging thing about this EDD is the shield disruption mod

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If anyone has solo'd whats the class / build to do so?

knotty rampart
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Scout for bum rushing everything and avoiding all bugs

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Driller for taking it easier

buoyant pewter
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Yeah thats what I was thinking too

knotty rampart
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And engi is also sometimes a good option

buoyant pewter
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So what would you use then

knotty rampart
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I'd go driller

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Because

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I hate doing bum rush

buoyant pewter
#

what does that driller build look like in general

knotty rampart
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Flamer and sub or epc

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And then really whatever you normally run tbh

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The biggest part of it is being quick at objectives and being good at not dying

buoyant pewter
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I feel like im good at surviving but when I do that I cant do objectives. Hard to dig out eggs when I cant gen shields during downtime

knotty rampart
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Ye

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That's where

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Kiting comes in

buoyant pewter
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Yeah I will give it some more tries tomorrow as driller, had 3 or 4 failed attempts today as gunner and I feel like I couldnt last long enough. Shield mechanic seems cool I wish it wasnt disabled, feels like artificial difficulty tbh

rotund veldt
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I used a Diller with Cyro-Vampire. Really easy with how ammo efficient it is and being able to get back all your health by drilling into a mini horde. Did it solo though

solid yoke
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I had to bail on my first deep dive due to a tornado warning

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I felt bad about it, but i consider this a valid excuse

knotty rampart
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Yes that is definitely a valid excuse

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Please don't die to a tornado

charred vine
#

im only 3 missions in but im assuming hteres a way to upgrade my characters like abilities as i level up more?

somber quartz
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There are passive perks

fringe kettle
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You get access to additional perks by completing milestones as well as unlocking new modification tiers for your various weapons and equipment.

charred vine
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is there a way to upgrade bosco?

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im gonna be playing primarily solo

fringe kettle
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in the bosco terminal

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to the right of the equipment terminal

charred vine
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i dont even know where the equipment terminal is ill have to look when im out of htis mission

fringe kettle
static arrow
#

Why are deep dive rewards limited to once a week?

obsidian gorge
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sounds like something to ask on a next AMA

static arrow
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Hrm. Didn't know if there was a reason to it before I complained about it.

fading rampart
#

I prefer weekly over daily. daily it just becomes too much. plus you would unlock all the cores too fast

celest sluice
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It would be too

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hardcore

dull silo
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daily would be a little intense for sure, but weekly can feel a little slow not gonna lie

amber badge
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This deep dive is pretty tough, cant get past level 2

plain gazelle
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Same but for the elite one

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Although it does seem to have a knack for causing really experienced players to take leave of their senses

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In the middle of a swarm the engie just walks right through like 20+ glyphids to go heal our downed digger, dies in the process obviously

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don't know what the plan was

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haz 5 + shield disruption is a nasty combo

dull silo
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pulled through 2 greenbeards with me, the trick for stage 2 is to take it slow and to accept that youre gonna use like 300 nitra there

amber badge
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Ok This Elite Deep

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Is way too hard

dreamy niche
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it's not too bad

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use supply pods often to get your health back

amber badge
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dear god, made it

exotic notch
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do you guys bother with gold etc on elite deep

scarlet willow
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yep

dull silo
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if i play driller yes, otherwise no

buoyant pewter
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Yeah I've tried the EDD a few times so far and stage 2 always gets me. If anyone who has finished already wants to group and help that'd be awesome haha

quartz ibex
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I got partly carried by my group on EDD stage two. It was the only stage I popped my IW or Field Medic charges on. We agreed early on that gold wasn't worth it and went into the stage with a good supply of nitra.

urban glade
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LF regular/elite deep dive

somber jacinth
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I have finished the EDD, but it was by SHEER luck, and my gunner having a CLUTCH Iron Will save. I am NOT touching this week's EDD again.

granite lantern
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this week edd was chill dstare

rotund veldt
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Vampire and Cyro, easy solo

static hound
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every week "EDD so ez vs EDD so hard"

vocal maple
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the second stage of the edd is harder than the last

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and the first one is super easy and super fast

dull silo
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A true team of gentlemen scholars

nimble sky
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@buoyant pewter I beat the elite deep dive with a duo (I was engineer he was scout) on my first run, so I’m not sure if it was lucky, considering it was my first EDD. The shield disruption was definitely bad, and we both had a down on that mission, but I ran field revive and iron will which got me a clutch, was able to drop resupply, resurrect my scout, vampire a few grunts and then take the resupply, and besides a scary situation where I got stuck in a tunnel we made because we don’t have a driller and are lazy, it was pretty smooth from there. Scout was sure to collect lots of nitra, which was relatively easy since I was leaving platforms everywhere, and we went into stage 3 with 230 nitra and already pretty stocked.

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We also both had tunnel rat which 100% saved me from taking any fall damage multiple times when combined with my platforms.

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The only things I would have done differently was make my friend bring friendly because his ms1000 or whatever it is called almost instant kills me whenever he hits me with it, it drops 3/4ths of my health in one shot.

buoyant pewter
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Word thanks for the info

dull silo
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Why was he shooting you though scout

nimble sky
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because i walk in the way? I don’t know

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I hit him with loads of breach cutters but they do like 0 damage

round jungle
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breach cutter definately does not do 0 damage

dull silo
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Breach cutter friendly fire is fairly low compared to how much damage it does against enemies

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It deals damage for as long as it touches targets, and dwarves simply aren't as girthy as glyphids

steady field
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Man, wish I could save the seed for this week, especially cave 2

obsidian gorge
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Deep dive in 42:04, nice

south nest
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I definitely was carried through the EDD. But it was my first one. I'm also dumb and didn't realize shield disruption was a thing. Once i saw that i did way better 😂

I think it should be hard though. It's end game gameplay isn't it? Reminds me of challenge rifts in diablo except you pick your loadout

manic pivotBOT
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blissful peak
#

Today I met 5 bulks on elite deepdive 😮

granite lantern
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unfortunate

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i had two i think

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or one idk

scarlet willow
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i had 2 on stage 2 cause my team pulled a bunch of legs at the same time

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5 though jfc

blissful peak
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Oh I forgot to say, I met 5 of them at 3rd stage 😄 Absolutely unheard of, for me

granite lantern
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tf how long did it take you

blissful peak
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Oh I see, time might be the factor... Took over one hour coz we missed one more player

scarlet willow
#

how many eggs did you fucking pull

granite lantern
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he must have pulled like 20 eggs

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true dirt digger

wraith shard
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...what the actual fuck did I read?

somber jacinth
#

I'm hoping that next week's Elite Deep Dive is a bit more forgiving with the mutators.

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no shields is not fun.

keen bronze
#

so i got this disk after doing a deep dive right

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but i go to the forge and it says i dont have any available even though it says i got one when i exit the forge

somber jacinth
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if its a blank core, you have to infuse it by completing a machine event

keen bronze
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a who the what now

somber jacinth
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machine event. basically a special challenge.

keen bronze
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and where do i find these special challenges

somber jacinth
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they spawn in normal, non deep dive missions.

keen bronze
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ah

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also one of the disks gave me a wepon overclock for the driller

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but i go to that gun and it says something about instable overclock

fringe kettle
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Machine events spawn randomly in regular missions just like cargo crates and lost helmets.

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a bit higher of a frequency though

keen bronze
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oh ok

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so i just look around for them

fringe kettle
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pretty much

scarlet willow
#

yeah they are pretty obvious

keen bronze
#

and the instable overclock?

somber jacinth
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Unstable.

keen bronze
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yes

somber jacinth
#

has one extreme upside, but has some pretty SEVERE downsides.

keen bronze
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it wont let me equip it though

somber jacinth
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you have to have a modification in each tier to apply an overclock.

keen bronze
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i have every thing unlocked

somber jacinth
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do you have the minerals and credits to forge it?

keen bronze
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yes

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i have already forged

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but it saying unstable overclock

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and i cant equip it to my gun

scarlet willow
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send a ss

keen bronze
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im not on my computer right now

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i was just wondering if anyone knew

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i will do tomorrow, thank you

wanton remnant
#

any one got this weeks deep dive objectives?

wanton remnant
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thanks

slate pine
#

glad stage 3 was a walk in the park

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almost lost 2 tho

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so many sand sharks

leaden geode
#

I think i had 3 bulk detonators on stage 2 edd, but sand sharks are still worse

hollow crystal
#

I have a question. Do i get matrix cores from both the normal deep dive and the elite one?

odd comet
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Yes.

unreal shore
#

@keen bronze have you unlocked a mod in every tier for the gun?

keen bronze
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?

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i unlocked everything in the gun

vague widget
#

did you choose a mod on every tier?

soft dagger
#

g

uncut raptor
#

trying to do this edd solo was a nightmare

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stage 2 keeps kicking my arse

keen bronze
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yes everything is chosen

unreal shore
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@keen bronze huh idk then because that should be the only thing that stops you adding an overclock

keen bronze
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hmmmm

unreal shore
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can you send a pic of what the scrren looks like on gallery maybe?

stoic pewter
#

yea the spitters and sharks in the big room on stage 2 made it challenging

uncut raptor
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i had really unlucky spawns, a trawler picked me up and dragged me back towards a bulk i was running away from

thick lake
#

yo is this lfg

odd comet
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No this is patrick

thick lake
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good

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doing edd and i need some teammates

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from bc

odd comet
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If you're looking for a group, perhaps use the #lfg-steam server?

thick lake
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ah yes

odd comet
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It's right there

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Right next to this server

thick lake
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sadly i noticed just as i saw you typing

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impending doom

proper cradle
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hello when is a good time to start doing edds? i got my first promotion and did a deep dive but i'm skeptical about joining an edd run.

brisk sorrel
#

Having at least 1 good overclock for your primary weapon and being able to provide meaningful support/play in Haz4 would be where I would put the mark. It's also better if you have a full team before going in so if you start one make sure to have all slots filled prior to dropping in.

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@proper cradle ^ Sorry I forgot to mention so you knew I was responding to you.

proper cradle
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thanks a lot !

obsidian gorge
#

not like just trying one out on solo would be a bad idea

tough meadow
#

Dude, that stage 2 of the edd is rough 😦

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No shields sucks

somber jacinth
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I've completed the EDD. it is pure uncensored EVIL.

tough meadow
#

I did my first deep dive today and found it pretty easy and straight forward. Having been playing on mostly hazard 4 I thought "Okay, why not the EDD?" And then I got recked. Are they all that bad?

somber jacinth
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depends on the Mutators.

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if Shield Disruption does happen, I'd prefer it to be at the start or at the very end. not the middle.

tough meadow
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I see now why I got kicked from an earlier lobby

granite lantern
#

I did my first deep dive today and found it pretty easy and straight forward. Having been playing on mostly hazard 4 I thought "Okay, why not the EDD?" And then I got recked. Are they all that bad?
@tough meadow this is one of the easiest edds lol

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They arent so bad, you just arent prepared

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they go to hazard 5 and hazard 5.5 after the first stage

somber jacinth
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@granite lantern so according to your logic, everyone has to be able to solo the EDD, regardless of mutators? seems farfetched if you ask me.

dull silo
#

I think its fair to say the large majority of players can learn to solo EDD's actually. I think that most people who struggle just haven't played that much

somber jacinth
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I've got 263 hours, however I am not even ready to do normal DDs solo. I like having a full squad.

dull silo
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how often do you try to solo DDs?

somber jacinth
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never.

dull silo
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So you haven't played the relevant content very much at all :p

somber jacinth
#

with that comment, now I'm even less motivated to do that.

dull silo
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Why?

somber jacinth
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you're basically saying almost 270 hours is haven't played enough.

dull silo
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no no

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im saying that 270 hours of playing multiplayer doesn't translate very well to playing solo

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if you wanna get better at playing solo, you should play solo. much in the same way that I could still learn a lot by playing more multiplayer cause I've done most of the EDDs solo

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If anything 270 hours in the game means that picking up solo EDDs would probably go really fast, I don't doubt you could spend a week playing to get it down to a point where you can finish it in a few tries

somber jacinth
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there's challenging difficulty, then there's utter bullshit.

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which is what this week's EED is classed as. utter BS.

scarlet willow
#

other edds have been harder

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and people only though the second stage was difficult

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so i wouldnt classify the entire edd as utter bs

dull silo
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idk when I started doing EDDs (somehwere after 1.0) but id say this was the hardest one since i started

scarlet willow
#

eh

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i dont think shield disruption is that bad

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tons of nitra

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i was eating supplies every minute

dull silo
#

sure, i dont think it was drastically different from other EDD

somber jacinth
#

in my book, Shield Disruption in the MIDDLE is BS. put it at the start or the end.

scarlet willow
#

if it was at the end you would probably still call it bs

dull silo
#

i mean, the earlier you get shield disruption the less of an issue it is

scarlet willow
#

the last stage is harder in haz difficulty

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yeah

somber jacinth
#

then couple it with Critical Weakness to make it a fuckin cakewalk.

scarlet willow
#

there was lots of nitra this edd

dull silo
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yep

scarlet willow
#

id bet more than 50% of my resupplies were stage 2

dull silo
#

though nitra generally isnt an issue in EDDs

scarlet willow
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^

quartz ibex
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This EDD is difficult but so are EDDs in general. The two big mistakes I could see people making are not going into stage 2 with a comfy nitra cushion and pulling eggs without their team being ready for the added Fun to shoot at

somber jacinth
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my first Completed EDD was Total Fissure in Glacial Strata. did that one TWICE.

dull silo
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#drg-chat is probably more appropriate, but you might be able to afford 1 upgrade for a primary weapon for whatever class you wanna play

somber jacinth
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Deep Dives in Sandblasted Corridors are just clusterfucks in general.

dull silo
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Trawlers can be pretty annoying thats for sure

somber jacinth
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I liked the Total Fissure EDD. had top tier coordination and comms.

granite lantern
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@granite lantern so according to your logic, everyone has to be able to solo the EDD, regardless of mutators? seems farfetched if you ask me.
@somber jacinth i mean, this one edd doesnt have particulary fucked up mutators

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the only mutator that is a massive middle finger to solo players is haunted cave

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which can be an ass depending on the level

somber jacinth
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Shield Disruption can fuck right off.

granite lantern
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its not so bad once you get used to it

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Its a double edged sword, actually

dull silo
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happily, haunted is trivial to scout

granite lantern
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It gives you extra HP so you are tankier against multiple dmg being dealt to you at once

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if you have trouble with it then bring red rock blaster

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its going to increase your health by well over double on shield disruption

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anyways shield disruption is not as bad as you're making it out to be

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the problem is on your end bro

somber jacinth
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and there goes my motivation to even try DDs solo. thanks for ruining it.

dull silo
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Are.. Are you okay?

granite lantern
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and there goes my motivation to even try DDs solo. thanks for ruining it.
@somber jacinth unironically, man up lol

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rather than saying that you should like

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play the game

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get more used to it

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become a better player

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I dont see myself as a particulary great player and i have been soloing every edds that come out for months

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even the one with haunted cave PE a while ago

dull silo
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wait, dyou solo on engi or scout, i forget

granite lantern
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my meta solo engi class is engi indeed

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I need to solo it with scout more often

dull silo
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I'm just surprised you give such credence to haunted, admittedly ive never solo'd on engi tho

somber jacinth
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I play this game for fun. Shield Disruption makes it UNFUN.

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need I say more?

granite lantern
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you could have just said that before you know

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if you want to, you can just like

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wait until the week does not have shield disruption

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but if you give up every time the week has low o2, shield disruption, lethal enemies or haunted cave, you're gonna have a bad time

somber jacinth
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Haunted Cave is as bad as Magma Core.

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I can deal with it yes, but I don't like it.

granite lantern
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no one does

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haunted cave is objectively dogshit design

dull silo
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._.

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really doesnt bother me on scout or driller

somber jacinth
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I main gunner.

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Gold 1

granite lantern
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scout edd isnt bad

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i have yet to try solo gunner edd

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I dont generally like solo gunner much because slowest mobility

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i guess i'd wait for rocky mountain beer before attemptin

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his shields make uplinks really easy though

dull silo
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gunner admittedly seems to have a harder time soloing than all the other classes

granite lantern
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even if the uplink had bad rng and fucks you up, you can probably pull through without firing with bosco revives and sheild

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eh i disagre

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*disagree

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scout is considerably more uncomfortable imo

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specially because uplinks

dull silo
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scout is absolutely amazing at everything except for uplinks

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uplinks hes admittedly especially weak at compared to other classes

granite lantern
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scout has really slowass wave clear

dull silo
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i dont think scout generally has to wave clear tho

granite lantern
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he has considerably less breathing room than other classes

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dunno fan i find it very uncomfortable to ignore waves as solo scout, and also slow

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imagine having to stall out everythin forever in h5

dull silo
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ye?

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i dont see the issue

granite lantern
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hm

dull silo
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like ye, you cant kill stuff fast, but also, you can just pull like 4 eggs at the same time cause lol who cares im scout

granite lantern
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i generally just clear everything and then go back to work

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i mean for eggs sure

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i usually just kill the egg swarms though

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but still pull out multiple

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if i have a supply pod then its good news to see the swarm stack up kinda

dull silo
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re gunner tho: gunner is in the awkward position of not really getting to cheat any of the things that show up in EDD (unlike driller or scout), not having meaningfully more killing power (than driller or engi) and his shield being significantly less useful in single player

granite lantern
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uh disagree

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shield is omega useful in single player

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and he does have a much easier time in uplinks

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specially with shields and ziplines

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also his best primary grunt clear has a lot of ammo

dull silo
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you think he has an easier time on uplink than driller or engi?

granite lantern
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I usually suffer as gunner when the nitra rng sucks and i run out of secondary

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than driller yea tbh

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engi no

dull silo
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hmm

granite lantern
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provided they bring AC

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if you get a bulk you can also like

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nuke it with secondary

dull silo
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idk uplinks already feel pretty trivial to driller - with the exception of rng spawns theres not many situations he cant deal with that gunner can

granite lantern
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if it goes wrong you can like

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shield ressuply

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get ammo shoot more

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if anything you die to bulk explosion or one aoe which will cost you a revive

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but if you go to uplink without revives youre already slightly begging to RNGesus

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what is something driller can deal with that gunner cant?

dull silo
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oh nothing

granite lantern
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other than bad terrain

dull silo
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i dont think driller is better than gunner

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i think theyre pretty much same level of killyness

granite lantern
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for solo ye

dull silo
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ye, for solo, clearly

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like the worst thing that can happen to driller is a bulk spawning so close that sticky flames to slow isnt enough

granite lantern
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ye

dull silo
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and gunner absolutely has more tools to deal with that

granite lantern
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subata wont deal with that

dull silo
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i mean, it will, just not if the bulk spawns within range to start aoeing

earnest barn
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whats the EDD goals this week?

earnest barn
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thank you!

obsidian helm
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Hey guys i was wondering if increasing the size of your squad increases the difficulty of a deep dive? ive never done one and i want to be prepared

scarlet willow
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yeah

fringe kettle
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yup

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easiest will be 2 man

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the wiki has the exact scaling

obsidian helm
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Thank you! wait arent you the employee of the month? Im so honored!

scarlet willow
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yeah i am employee of the month your welcome

obsidian helm
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lol

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thanks to you too m8

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this community is too good to a simple greenbeard like me

hollow osprey
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I completed the dive and I just want to ask.. was the 2nd stage as hard for you guys as it was for me? I did it with a 4 man team

late elm
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I had 3 runs fail on the 2nd stage

hollow osprey
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yea, I had a total of 4 bulks during that stage, had a Pret. wave and had a bunch of oppressors spawn.

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it was almost as hard as the 4th of July EDD

merry monolith
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Can some gracious greybeard carry a scout on EDD to stage 3? I'm strugglebusing

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We don't even have to do the last stage if ya want to save time

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foggy mauve
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oh boy

hollow osprey
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Get R' done!

midnight igloo
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I wish we can get our characters tattoos

void rune
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what are the best and most usefull perks ?

obsidian gorge
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that depends on your playstyle and preferences

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might be more specific if you want to know more about one

void rune
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i need a usefull blue one i got thorn and iron will i like the torn but not the iron will what do you use ?

granite lantern
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what are the best and most usefull perks ?
@void rune

best passives according to general consensus : born ready, deep pockets, thorns

best actives : iron will, field medic ,dash

obsidian gorge
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guess you are promoted and need one for the second slot, there is dash, and berserk

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oh, hover boots too

fervent cedar
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what do I need to do to be ready for EDD

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do well on hazard 5?

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have overclocks?

granite lantern
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Yes

scarlet willow
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you dont need to do anything specifically

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ocs will make it easier

granite lantern
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just be good at h5

scarlet willow
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edds difficultly is haz 5 basically

fervent cedar
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yeah

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and if I cant beat haz 5

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im boned

scarlet willow
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the difficulty is 4.5 5 5.5

fervent cedar
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what do I need to do to beat haz 5, use all of my tools to the greatest ability?

scarlet willow
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just be good have a good team

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communicate

fervent cedar
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great

scarlet willow
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maybe mess with ur perks a bit

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try having an area prepared before a wave

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bring beer buffs for edd always

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the 3 for 1 is nice

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you can also ask and discuss builds in #drg-chat to try to optimize a bit

hollow osprey
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If it helps at all, for me, the gunner has been a huge help with harder deep dives. The use of the shield and the use of ziplines really helps out.

plain gazelle
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failed the edd again, I feel like this one with shield disruption was just not meant to happen for me

civic saffron
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what happens if you fail before the end?

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do you keep the overclocks and gold/xp

plain gazelle
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Yeah, for the missions you succeeded only

versed willow
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You get the rewards from each stage you passed (core, OC) but 25% of the rest.

plain gazelle
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We were one egg away from escaping that second level dammit

civic saffron
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so if I fail on stage 3 I get all the stage 2 rewards + 25% of what was collected in stage 3?

plain gazelle
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I could have been happy with that

versed willow
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1 and 2 rewards, 25% of the total other stuff.

plain gazelle
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which is still a lot of xp, I failed edd at level 2 with pots of gold, still got 13500 creds and 9000 xp

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Which is as much as a successful regular mission on like haz 4

civic saffron
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also does everyone recieve teh same reward?

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and are repeats possible?

obsidian gorge
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no you won't get the same Overclock or cosmetic

plain gazelle
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Yeah everyone gets a different one

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i don't think it's possible to get repeats

obsidian gorge
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no you can't redo the same Deep dive , you wont get the cores again

plain gazelle
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Oh repeats as in repeating the deep dive yeah no you get those once per week

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You also can't get duplicates of cores you already own

civic saffron
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oh I meant repeats as in getting core duplicates

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but you can still play the DDs you just can't get more cores rt

plain gazelle
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Yeah

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You can replay as much as you want, I assume that's where the speedrunning aspect comes in

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Knowing the levels by heart etc, which you can't do in the regular game

civic saffron
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oh tru dumb question

plain gazelle
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But no more cores if you got them once

merry monolith
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WELL i MADE IT TO STAGE 3 OF EDD

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solo

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ran out of ammo

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but I'm pretty happy as is

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I got my weapon overclock

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and when I say ran out of ammo I mean I ran out of breach cutter ammo because that the #1 difference between todays run and yesterday when I was trying to solo with scout

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I used 3 breach cutter round to kill 3 prelatorians which just spawned together.

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I feel like my average against 3 prelatorians with scout is like 3 mags of something

dull silo
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Ye engineer is a good deal killier than scout. Gj getting to stage 3!

merry monolith
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Yeah I think I got it in the bag if I try again, mainly because my routing through stage 2 was so inefficent I hit too many swarms

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Also if I'm a bit faster on stage 1 I think I can hit only one swarm, last time I was like 10 seconds off finishing before the swarm hit

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though that doesn't super matter since I only use one resupply that mission anyways

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I feel like my build wouldn't have worked that well in a 4 man squad, i just use ammo too quickly

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you get a lot more to yourself as a solo

dull silo
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ye solo builds arent always the same as group builds. That said, keep in mind that the number of swarms in stage 2 is always gonna be the same (its primary objective is a length 3 eggs, so you'll always get 3 swarms)

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dull silo
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Thanks @manic pivot

merry monolith
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Length 3 eggs? Meaning you'll get swarms after deposting 3 eggs and after depositing all eggs?

late elm
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5 bulks on stage 2

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reeeeeeee

fervent cedar
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f-five?

late elm
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One of whom spawned on the escape pod

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We managed to kill one bulk with another bulk

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Galaxy brain

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Wiped on third somehow, the unluckiest mactera swarm ever

leaden geode
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@merry monolith I think is more like there's 33% to 50% chance for announced swarm with each egg, otherwise it's going to be a small one

late elm
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Multiple grabbers, multiple menaces, dozen mactera, the usual swarm all while we had just popped the dread

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smh

dull silo
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@merry monolith you always get the same amount of total swarms for a given amount of eggs if it's the primary objective. You get 1 swarm for 2-4 eggs, 2 for 6 eggs and 3 for more than that. When they'll happen is random tho

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The length I mentioned is because for regular missions, length 1 is always 4 eggs, length 2 is always 6 etc

merry monolith
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gotcha

wraith shard
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When did edd last reset? last thursday?

dreamy niche
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yes, they reset every thursday

fading rampart
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oh boy, core gameplay later today

fathom kelp
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If you're unsure, check the assignment board or Deep Dive terminal, there should be a timer

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elfin geyser
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Anyone running a last minute DD?

uncut raptor
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here's to a ghost warning salvage

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ebon anchor
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any EDD screenshots

wraith shard
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Likely will be around 10am, so about 2 hours or so.

maiden merlin
ebon anchor
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shield disrup salvage huh

maiden merlin
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very much so

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lots of grabbers too

wraith shard
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Magma core too huh?

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Dark Morkite will be useful though

ebon anchor
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would be really shitty if the ground opens up under the uplink

wraith shard
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Engi plats

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At least for the fuel pods on the last stage

ebon anchor
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I mean

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wait

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you mean I can stop the fuel pods before it go all the way down?

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it won't drill through my plats

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but what if the fuel cell already lands and the ground opens up, and it drops all the way

echo edge
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I ve had that happen once it opened up as I was almost done building it I don t think you can prevent it with platforms

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It had already dropped but I think if it hasn't yet you can stop it with a plat

ancient cove
wraith shard
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@ancient cove making up for the bugged black boxes it seems?

uncut raptor
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lmao

short charm
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I start the new EDD and... Hacker, right away. Unlimited ammo on his Cryo cannon. Kept firing unlimited snowballs. That's an alt-F4 for me.

wraith shard
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Good man

granite lantern
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this week's edd looks a bit dangerous

scarlet willow
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gonna need my elemental insulation

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i can tell im gonna be stepping on hot rocks all day with no shields to tank it

feral atlas
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shield disruption salvage magma core