#deep-dive-discussion
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Or it might be 3.5 - 4.5 with the same pattern
The first two missions should be easier, and the third mission will either be haz 5 or a bit easier, i'll double check
Oh regular is 3, 3.5, 3.5 for hazard apparently. @shadow parcel
EDD Is 4.5, 5, 5.5
so if you can do haz 4 comfortably then deep dives should be fairly straightforward?
Yeah, just longer and a couple of them will have warnings. Shield disruption is my least favorite in a deep dive
thanks!
Regular deep dives are pretty easy.
hi all, and im sorry if this is asked constantly, but what exactly is a deep dive? And when should i start doing them? (I have promoted a class)
it is a 3 stages long mission, each stage you have to complete 2 main objectives (such as morkite + eggs) , every time you complete a stage the first time (per week) you get a special reward, and the map is always the same for everyone, the difficulty is fixed too, being haz 3 - 3.5 - 3.5 for regular dives, and 4.5 - 5 - 5.5 for Elite, you access them after you promote a dwarf, which you will get by playing and reaching level 25
nevermind i scrolled up lol
even though I unlocked it on a toon, does it really matter what level the class is for a deep dive? I.e. I promoted my engi, but my gunner is lvl 17 with all guns unlocked
im french !!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can only do a deep dive with a promoted character.
you can only used promoted classes
@wraith shard #fan-communities
im french sorry
okay thank you
I fucking hate the Ghost.
There's no reason for it to be in the game.
You can't kill it, stop it, run from it, or even slow it down.
It's the worst thing in the game right now and needs to go.
You can run from it, and slow it down using electricity iirc
It's one of the only modifiers that gives you a good challenge
Good challenge my ass.
If you're stuck in a room trying to kill a Dreadnaught, you can't leave.
If you pay attention, you can easily avoid it
You have an invincible monster killing you constantly and there's nothing to stop it. It needs to be removed.
There are times when it can't be avoided.
It traps you.
Kite the dreadnought to a larger room so you can kite the ghost and the dreadnought
Or play with others so that the focus is split between players
The dreadnought and the ghost
I was.
It didn't make a difference.
The room was destroyed, we had lava all over the floor, earth quakes slowed us down and we couldn't run.
It was a non stop barrage of being helpless and picking up downed team mates. Nothing could be done.
If we don't die, we run out of ammo, then we die.
Well there is the problem, lava caverns is the hardest biome, so of course the ghost is going to be a challenge to face
My point is that it's unnecessary. It needs to be removed from the game.
If the game didn't have a wrench to throw at you, the game would get stale.
It's just a one off thing you need to do once. EDDs are meant to be challenging.
The harder the challenge, the more rewarding overcoming it is
Best bet is to just have one guy aggro it and bait it away from the rest of the team.
If you want a possible solution, kite the ghost to the other side of the map from the dreadnought, then quickly run to the dreadnought and get as much damage in as possible before the ghost shows up
^^Also what @pliant girder said^^
my guys just did the first elite dive mission then failed the second one because mactera are terrible
@grave fox did they use the caves or a driller bunker to combat the mactera?
Yea they spawn out of thin air and can kill you instantly. Gunner shield is good. Driller does decent damage. And cryo grenades can kill a swarm in one hit.
we tried to lure them above the guisers
Above the geysers?
yeah the lava geysers it works pretty well
theres a cave early on with 2 geysers and its good
That sounds challenging to get them to fly over the geysers and stay there until the geysers erupt
Doable, but challenging
we didn't have any particular tactic
we also accidentally summoned the 2 dreadnoughts simultaneously but still pulled through
& 
Mactera are weakest in close tunnels where they have to funnel in
the trouble is we didn't have enough nitra for the second stage
Stay in cover and force them to come to you through small tunnels, and the fight will be easier
The driller can also make a panic bunker to escape the onslaught of mactera
i've never found panic bunkers very effective
it just sort of backs you in to a corner
It's harder to dodge projectiles, but they are more closely packed, allowing you to do more damage to them and allow less of them to attack at the same time
You can deal with them defensively by having a wall or bunker to block their shots but I prefer burst aoe damage. They bunch up so just hit them really hard.
and if an opressor wanders into your bunker then you're toast
Yeah, if an oppressor shows, you gotta drill out of the bunker
The driller has to be aware of a possible escape at all times
which seems to happen every time my guy makes a safety hole
my driller plays sort of glass-cannony because he has the slow overclock
we might try it again with the cryo cannon
often our best tactic is to have the gunner set up ziplines out of harms way and have the gunner and the driller stay up there while me and the scout zip around taking care of stragglers
A monkey wrench that can be pulled out and fixed is fun. There's nothing fun about an invincible enemy.
this doesn't work with mactera as they all fly and shoot projectiles
There's nothing fun about something you can't defeat. It's a waste of time and does nothing but cause frustration.
its the only enemy like it in the game i think it makes for a fun challenge
especially since one of the team members can be used to lure it away while the rest fight the dreadnaughts
i dont know if this is a controversial opinion or not but the dash active ability is suuuper useful when dealing with the ghost
all my dwarfs except scout have the dash equipped then just zoom away from any fatal explosion (dreadnaught, bulk detonator etc.)
There's nothing fun about this.
Endless waves of bugs is fun.
Swarms are fun.
Traps are fun.
Digging for lost treasure is fun.
Puzzles are fun.
Invincible enemies you can't kill or lose is terrible. I hate it and it needs to be removed.
??? you could not play those missions
im aware its hard this time because its one of the deep dives but there are hundereds of other mission types to play
When faced with an obstacle that you cannot overcome, you can either avoid it or change how you play.
All four characters have movement abilities that can be used to avoid the ghost
The scout can quickly escape, the gunner can zipline out of reach
shield can repel ghost and you can use ziplines out of the range of its explosion to basically make it null
The driller can tunnel away from it faster than it can tunnel to the driller
The engineer can try his best
thats me : D
Yea the ghosts are really annoying but it's only a one time thing. You won't encounter it outside of EDDs much.
This game rewards creativity and awareness
I highly doubt a ghost is impossible to overcome
once you figure it out its super manageable
of all the warnings i think lethal enemies is the worst to be honest
last weeks elite deep dive was impossible because of the lethal enemies + nayaka trawler combo
I'd say mactera = lethal > ghost
At least glyphids don't spawn out of thin air and insta kill you.
mactera is pretty terrible yeah
Plus you can kite melee enemies. Can't kite mactera.
i swear they are like the most accurate projectilers in the whole game
grabbers and gooers aren't even that bad compared to like,, 20 mactera spawn
its like,, "oh you exist without cover? cool you are no longer alive"
It might be nice if they didn't get so close.
I think that adds to why they're so hard to dodge.
Making it so you could survive more than two of their shots would be nice too though.
what are deep dives?
@onyx elk it is a 3 stages long mission, each stage you have to complete 2 main objectives (such as morkite + eggs) , every time you complete a stage the first time (per week) you get a special reward, and the map is always the same for everyone, the difficulty is fixed too, being haz 3 - 3.5 - 3.5 for regular dives, and 4.5 - 5 - 5.5 for Elite, you access them after you promote a dwarf, which you will get by playing and reaching level 25
np
spitballers are almost as bad as mactera
but at least you can shoot the projectile
a lot of people seem to forget that
spitballers are way less worse than mactera in general
spitballers give you hell in unfortunate circumstances
macteras give you hell regardless
spitballers can be dealt with with the engie's breach cutter with relative ease on any difficulty
relative
isn't that ammo better spent on other situations
Finally some easy dives
Been hard ones the last month or so in comparison
Having no black box is 😍
shot in the back to my final death while heading to drop pod
I almost finished a DD solo. But there is a bug that can get you stuck in the ramp if it extends while you're in the way. lol
Rip
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thank you mission control
Mission control, the real mvp
Still stuck on round 3 EDD 😦
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Try duos. It’s the easiest combination of people since the difficulty barely scales up from solo.
I'm surprised we had a haunted cave on this one, wasn't bad tho, it's just that the ghost constantly chased after me, and only "me" throughout the stage
Is there additional rewards after you finish a DD? Kinda want to help greenbeards to get their cores but having no material drop is a hardsell
Or loot crate/terrain scanners
only other rewards from cores are the exp and credits
and the hulihoarder if they spawn
Deep dives are fun
How much is the EDD worth in terms of credit and xp? Worth it to farm those missions just for those?
you dont get minerals
so prolly not worth it
it's the same amount as doing 3 missions
Aww, might as well run Hazard 5s then but everyone that joined me ran on the first wave
Am I the only one that thinks that this weeks EDD was really exhausting in terms of length? The 2nd Stage made us insane, how deep we need to dig 😄
To the core if needed
Gotta dig deep and greedily
can someone tell me what are this white rockets in the mission overview in every area?
iirc numbers of games in that area (with other players)
when is the next deep dive?
you can check how much time is left in the Deep Dive terminal
reset day is Thursday
I use to think the dives and assignments reset at 7am EST, but it's now 8amEST, or my time that is
first stage rewards going fast a lot, if you hustle you wont need to deal with the ghost at all during the first dread
you can also uh
bring multiple engies
and nuke both dreads at once with BC
it pays off
actually i'd bring a gunner with lead spray for no other purpose but stage 1
any tips for this weeks edd
Don't die. It's bad for your health and your mission completion.
^ good advice
have something to deal with magthera plague in stage 2 is the only real thing i can think off
best thing on stage 2 was getting grunt swarm uwu
I’ve died at start of edd 3 about 10 times total wipe it’s aggravating af
tfw you're on the escape pod countdown for the salvage as last mission and a detonator big boi shows up and camps your fuel line
oh and you're solo
Can you keep doing Deep dives over and over?
I was under the impression it was once a week
but you only get the rewards once per week?
exactly, once per stage / per week
when do deep dive rewards reset?
thank you
I just went on my first deep dive 
I knew that the deep dives and the forge were later game content and I still feel like I'm scratching the surface (terrible pun)
@terse rampart ha
Anyone have an elite deep dive I can join? I don't have to join party if y'all don't want me to
(on Xbox and Im a scout)
what are deep dives?
3 consecutive missions that reward a blank core, weapon overclock core, and a cosmetic core, each earned in that order after the end of each level
Missions that you find the worst people to group with and fail over n over with 👍
Normal Deep Dives go like so. Haz 3, Haz 3.5, Haz 3.5
Elite Deep Dives go like so. Haz 4.5, Haz 5, Haz 5.5
and they have 2 primary objectives (morkite, mules, aquarqs, dreadnoughts, eggs) and no secondary
and the nitra/gold you gather carries over to the next stage
but so does your current ammo
also, active perks are refreshed between stages
Hi, i just got dropped 1 range and 3 levels... somebody had the same prob? it's like the game didnt sync well and all my progress from yesterday its gone
You can check your save backups in options and restore save.
cant click on them
Did a bulk spawn on anyone else during the EDD stage 2?
wow it's all potato teammates today T_T
I'm new to the game but is there a open world portion without a mission just free to mine at will
?
No and wrong channel.
My goodness. How can someone be so unlucky.
I tried the EDD with a friend yesterday. Stage one was already annoying but challenging and we were relieved to see stage two but then a damn dreadnought spawns as a wave!
I've seen this happen only 7 or 8 times in 600 hours. The game hates me
That's what I say for every assignment I start.
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is big bertha better than the aoe oc
Did anyone do the EDD this week with four players and have no ghost bulk on the first stage?
My goodness. How can someone be so unlucky.
I tried the EDD with a friend yesterday. Stage one was already annoying but challenging and we were relieved to see stage two but then a damn dreadnought spawns as a wave!
@digital comet I wish we'd see these more, depending on your team comp they can either be a lot easier or a lot harder than other types of waves
4 driller teams are guaranteed success
At 8am est
What would be the best way to get a squad for deep dives?
Sorta new and know that coordination might not be the best in pubs
probably #lfg-steam ? instructions in pins 📌
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@slow bramble If you can handle Haz4, the DD is easy solo
I am not confident at hazard 4. turns out rifle bullets are made of silly putty, and dwarves are made of flesh.
well, Deep dives are haz 3 - 3.5 - 3.5 , so there is that
@ancient mica You got a pickaxe, thats all you need
Damn you, you're right. Rock and Stone.
Hey guys
I jsut did my first ever Solo Deep Dive. It was hell lot of fun, however, at Stage 3, I had to get 2 eggs and fix 2 mini-mules. All good, until I didn't get to the drop pod. I was raided by a huge swarm, which is fine, but I had a Bulk Explorer come and just stand in the triangulation zone. Impossible to do solo. Was thinking if you have any tips, because it's a bit too much to have that bad boy rolling in the middle while you're being swarmed
Overall it wouldn't be a problem if not for the fact that if you lose all Triangulation Progress you insta-fail as Solo
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random bulks in salvage are the bane of all
there's little you can do
depending on how far or how close it spawns
kinda sucks
@simple grotto this job is for Engineer. Any big guys (even Detonator) are just melted by Breech cutter, usually I even don't have to leave triangulation zone.
Hey @lapis ridge ! Would you advice doing solo content as Engineer then?
Well, I did it multiple times. Pro players do solo speedruns with driller, but I feel more comfortable with engi🙂
oki 😄
I'm maining scout due to his mobiility
but I found out that on Bosses it's hard
especially without crygo nates
cryo*
Well, the problem is the whole 'solo' part. In a team, one or two people can go pull the bulk away from the uplink and deal with it while the others keep charging, but you can't really do that solo.
Scout really depends on his IFG grenades and on Iron will to deal with a bulk during an uplink. it's not as comfortable as for engineer, but you can definitely deal with (atleast one) bulk consistently that way
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let's get this bread
i wonder how hard the EDD will be this week
DD in Dense Biozone
EDD in Sandblasted Corridors
magma core sucks, agreed
anyone else stuck on old DDs, and have -20 mins for refresh
restart the game
i had -7 minutes and old DDs 20 minutes ago, yeah. restart the game
Shortly
Dense blindzone
How do you post a picture lol
Ty @granite lantern
Is black box bugged again or no?
no they fixed it
Okay
No more freebies
That EDD, took out names since everyone else seems to
Fair enough

no uplinks stage 3 = freebie @wraith shard
who do think will get sticky flame first out of the two of us
cause if its me, im gonna remind you of it a lot.
Yuck, shield disruption
That stage is gonna suck
@dull silo If you do I'm gonna be pissed lol
You can probably skip mining nitra entirely on the second stage it you're worried about shield disruption
Ouch, shield disruption is savage
Just tried it, while there is a bulk detonator in it
@dull silo @wraith shard so are you 2 available today
I'm gonna try soloing this EDD and see if I'm able to this weem or not.
Ouch, shield disruption is savage
no, its egg hunt
theres no uplink
oh shit
i missread as '' is salvage ''
Rough estimate?
Right now I can't as I have a meeting (separate from work) when I get home and I don't know the time off hand.
It's why first thing I'll solo the DD to get that finished.
Then if it goes quick I'll let you guys know.
im gonna start the edd by myself now
Okay
I would in your shoes
So not even mad
so stage 2 is really bad
others arent so bad unless RNG decides to spawn a few detonators lmao
yeah the teamkill damage was fun too thanks @wraith shard
ok driller whomst freezes teammates in corridors
okay buddy if I didn't freeze everything around us we'd be screwed
oh good
edd 2nd stage took me near 20 minutes
fucking noiseless grabber dropped me all the way to the main cave from spawn
gsg fix your grabbers thanks
other than that, the run is pretty good so far
I like the 2nd stage
...too many spitters tho
and like 4 menaces
this run was not so bad
shitty time but i'll take it
could be sub 30 maybe but stage 2 😔
also four downs on stage 3 lul
damn, that stage 2 EDD had a lot of Sand Sharks, Oppressors and 2 Bulks >_>
When I did the EDD stage two we got 3 bulks
This edd is pretty tame.
Yeah only problem was the stage two because of the shield disrupt but even that was easy
The past month of EDD have been pretty easy
How do you change your title thing for DDs? I see people with group titles like "Don't press the button until everyone is ready" and stuff
you can change it in the options menu somewhere iirc
Just finished "EDD Duo" with my friend Beni No Overclocks No weapon/armor mods RnS
build XD
that EDD stage 2 was rough
at least this time there's no bloody black box on stage 2. though TBH, I'm tired of seeing Shield Disruption on Deep Dives.
if that black box had been on shield disrupt, it would have been awful
I'm usually able to get 2 of 3 stages of the Weekly EDD done. my first COMPLETED Elite Deep Dive was Total Fissure in Glacial Strata.
feels great getting kicked on the 2nd stage of an EDD because you go down once
I guess that's a benefit to playing solo 
Ugh
That feeling when you disconnect in the middle of the EDD
Looked like we were gonna clear it too
it's pretty easy besides some bits on the second stage
just don't get hit
making the game harder isnt garbage design but ok
stage 2 just had a lot of stuff
Okay, time to try the EDD solo
shieldless on egg hunt is pretty tame all things considered
you control swarm timing
there's nitra everywhere
and you have a huge arena to work with
the biggest swarm you're likely to see is the welcome part, and for that part you have the drop pod armor
I mean could be worse, could have been a uplink mission.
At this point though I hardly notice shield disruption now
just tell the engi to be careful with the Return to Sender BC and that was really it
@feral atlas I beg to differ
As we were clearing out the large room, before popping any eggs, we had a massive swarm spawn on us with two bulks
and what was your engi doing?
Like, it was big enough to be an entire haz 3-4 swarm by itself
Trying to pick up the gunner and driller who got swarmed by grunts
While I kited the bulks around
I normally only play Haz5, with the more drastic mutators on
compared to shieldless salvage, shieldless egg hunts are extremely controllable
it honestly just sounds like the team was weak
Well, yeah
None of them were above 75
But we were managing until I lagged out and disconnected
Ran into engi again in my next EDD, he said everything fell apart after I DCed
:p
there are teams that treat this as normal
and teams that are constantly trying to not immediately fail
Eh
I can play Haz 5
I just don't enjoy it
And if you aren't enjoying the game, then what's the fucking point?
there isn't, unless there is a reward at the end
whcih is one issue I have the the reward design of dives
they push you to play difficulties you don't like, with players you might not want to be with
on biomes you might hate, with mutators you might also hate
or missions types you hate
of course without the reward the game mode has no reason to exist
but the existance of the rewards is why you see shakey players in EDD that have 0 reason to be on a difficulty they can't handle
Okay
Those leeches in stage 2 need to fuck right off
That and the seemingly endless stream of bugs
there's leeches in stage 2?
Yeah
hm, we must have just killed them too quickly
Maybe
I'm not the greatest at soloing the EDD yet
Usually stage 2 takes me out on EDD because I get cocky.
theres 3 leeches in stage 2 isnt there
surprisingly, the hardest part of this week's EDD was facing 2 detonators on shieldless. Everything else was fine.
someone even said "wait, this is elite?"
Yeah I had 3 detonators on shieldless when I did it but we pulled through. The 1st and 3rd stages were pretty easy thankfully
goddamn this edd is tough. second stage completed
Get Dark Morkite if you can because it makes stages 1 and 3 easy as, 2nd stage is a bitch so don't split up if you can avoid it and kill menaces ASAP. Watch out for leeches on stages 2 and 3, and detonators on stage 2
i had dark morkite
left after the clearing out the black box room
before the first wave
yeah same
@granite lantern scaling the spawns
What is dark morkite?
its a beer buff
how the hell do people solo the EDD every damn week?
do the devs have a shield disruption fetish or something? I am genuinely curious. if there's gonna be shield disruption, it needs to be coupled with Critical Weakness if you ask me.
that, or Shield Disruption needs to be at the end.
lol did edd with just two players
everyone else was down and i just called the pod at the end of 2nd stage and made a run for it
Shield Disruption is why I equip my dwarves with Vampire and the Red Sugar perk ahead of dives with those modifiers. So annoying and my least favourite modifier.
it's hard, so that's why its in edd
lol @ the trap at one of the last cave though
but thankfully that last cave on the 2nd stage also gave us extra nitra to make through the beginning of stage 3
did the EDD with only two other players, was satisfying teamwork 🙂
One of the guys got dc'ed right when we called the pod for the end of the third level, he added us as a friend and we waited for him to make sure he gets rewarded for his hard work
how the hell do people solo the EDD every damn week?
gotta get good
its not fun playing slow, walking on eggshells, suffering from fall damage, etc
@craggy prairie you know you dont really have to do that right
shield disruption gives you a health boost
you can try to go through it normally just fine
sometimes you can even forget you have disruption
In fact shield disruption is not entirely bad
It makes you more tanky to consecutive attacks
also red rock blaster + shield disruption is a ton of hp
@granite lantern So, would you say the best tactic is to just go for it and not worry about getting every bug cleared?
Because in solo I tend to worry more about that.
Usually only clear prio targets, even with driller
Can just use sticky slow to cc the rest while you do important stuff
Hmm, alright. So ranged and big bois
What are the buffs/debuffs of this week's EDD?
What are the buffs/debuffs of this week's EDD?
@woven sinew https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/253869490457149440/730804480643432569/unknown.png
👍 cheers
Can anybody tell me what the difference between “triple filters fuel” and “unfiltered fuel” is
I know triple filtered upgrades your heat but what exactly does heat do
make things burn when the heat is high enough
each creature got a different burn temperature, and they stay burning for different ammounts of time too, basically
Oh cool thanks
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/708332894413783110/731233761110523954/20200710123618_2.jpg ELITE DEEP DIVE, COMPLETED!
the Gunner had a CLUTCH Iron Will save
cool :>)
I am NOT running the dive again. uh-uh.
Guys sorry if this is asked frequently but how can I tell when there's a new Deep Dive? Like I did my first one yesterday but don't remember the name, so can I look somewhere to see when it's refreshed? Maybe the clock below the mission's name? thanks
there's a timer in the Deep Dive terminal.
oh ok. So as long as it's empty means I haven't done the mission yet. Thanks
yea
🙂
the Elite Deep Dive is EVIL.
Yeah I'm used to H3 normal missions and the regular DD was fine in terms of difficulty
H4 destroys me so I have a long way to go before an EDD haha
EDD goes Haz 4.5, Haz 5, Haz 5.5
Guys sorry if this is asked frequently but how can I tell when there's a new Deep Dive? Like I did my first one yesterday but don't remember the name, so can I look somewhere to see when it's refreshed? Maybe the clock below the mission's name? thanks
@maiden hound the deep dive always changes at the same time
one day and nine hours ago, it changed
so yea every thursday
same goes for the weekly assignments
This weeks elite deep dive mission 2 is absolute crap/ Shield disruption is brutal
2nd week doing elite deep dives and shield disruption is really rough. i really love this game, but i would appreciate some tips.
@brittle kestrel i got tips if you like. What specifically are you having trouble with
@knotty rampart proper comp and strategy for the elite deep dive. stage 1 is cake, stage 3 also does not look bad. stage 2 is really rough. I'm running scout gunner with a buddy. Is there a better combo? We try to carry over 2 supply pods from the first stage for some extra hp, but we struggle to get all the eggs before getting overwhelmed.
Yes definitely a better combo
Always have at least engi or driller since they both have fantastic traversal tools while retaining good firepower
And gunner is good for some traversal and really big guns
Scout isn't a good choice unless you've got a full team since he really doesn't have very good firepower
if ur not running scout be careful of the leeches that spawn
Should you not be careful of leeches otherwise? :p
well no its just with scout u should light up every new cave
usually spotting leeches in big caves isnt too hard as long as u shoot a flare up
The only challenging thing about this EDD is the shield disruption mod
If anyone has solo'd whats the class / build to do so?
Scout for bum rushing everything and avoiding all bugs
Driller for taking it easier
Yeah thats what I was thinking too
And engi is also sometimes a good option
So what would you use then
what does that driller build look like in general
Flamer and sub or epc
And then really whatever you normally run tbh
The biggest part of it is being quick at objectives and being good at not dying
I feel like im good at surviving but when I do that I cant do objectives. Hard to dig out eggs when I cant gen shields during downtime
Yeah I will give it some more tries tomorrow as driller, had 3 or 4 failed attempts today as gunner and I feel like I couldnt last long enough. Shield mechanic seems cool I wish it wasnt disabled, feels like artificial difficulty tbh
I used a Diller with Cyro-Vampire. Really easy with how ammo efficient it is and being able to get back all your health by drilling into a mini horde. Did it solo though
I had to bail on my first deep dive due to a tornado warning
I felt bad about it, but i consider this a valid excuse
im only 3 missions in but im assuming hteres a way to upgrade my characters like abilities as i level up more?
There are passive perks
You get access to additional perks by completing milestones as well as unlocking new modification tiers for your various weapons and equipment.
i dont even know where the equipment terminal is ill have to look when im out of htis mission
Equipment to the left and drone to the right. https://i.imgur.com/TeScNNj.jpg
Why are deep dive rewards limited to once a week?
sounds like something to ask on a next AMA
Hrm. Didn't know if there was a reason to it before I complained about it.
I prefer weekly over daily. daily it just becomes too much. plus you would unlock all the cores too fast
daily would be a little intense for sure, but weekly can feel a little slow not gonna lie
This deep dive is pretty tough, cant get past level 2
Same but for the elite one
Although it does seem to have a knack for causing really experienced players to take leave of their senses
In the middle of a swarm the engie just walks right through like 20+ glyphids to go heal our downed digger, dies in the process obviously
don't know what the plan was
haz 5 + shield disruption is a nasty combo
pulled through 2 greenbeards with me, the trick for stage 2 is to take it slow and to accept that youre gonna use like 300 nitra there
dear god, made it
do you guys bother with gold etc on elite deep
yep
if i play driller yes, otherwise no
Yeah I've tried the EDD a few times so far and stage 2 always gets me. If anyone who has finished already wants to group and help that'd be awesome haha
I got partly carried by my group on EDD stage two. It was the only stage I popped my IW or Field Medic charges on. We agreed early on that gold wasn't worth it and went into the stage with a good supply of nitra.
LF regular/elite deep dive
I have finished the EDD, but it was by SHEER luck, and my gunner having a CLUTCH Iron Will save. I am NOT touching this week's EDD again.
this week edd was chill 
Vampire and Cyro, easy solo
every week "EDD so ez vs EDD so hard"
the second stage of the edd is harder than the last
and the first one is super easy and super fast
A true team of gentlemen scholars
@buoyant pewter I beat the elite deep dive with a duo (I was engineer he was scout) on my first run, so I’m not sure if it was lucky, considering it was my first EDD. The shield disruption was definitely bad, and we both had a down on that mission, but I ran field revive and iron will which got me a clutch, was able to drop resupply, resurrect my scout, vampire a few grunts and then take the resupply, and besides a scary situation where I got stuck in a tunnel we made because we don’t have a driller and are lazy, it was pretty smooth from there. Scout was sure to collect lots of nitra, which was relatively easy since I was leaving platforms everywhere, and we went into stage 3 with 230 nitra and already pretty stocked.
We also both had tunnel rat which 100% saved me from taking any fall damage multiple times when combined with my platforms.
The only things I would have done differently was make my friend bring friendly because his ms1000 or whatever it is called almost instant kills me whenever he hits me with it, it drops 3/4ths of my health in one shot.
Word thanks for the info
Why was he shooting you though 
because i walk in the way? I don’t know
I hit him with loads of breach cutters but they do like 0 damage
breach cutter definately does not do 0 damage
Breach cutter friendly fire is fairly low compared to how much damage it does against enemies
It deals damage for as long as it touches targets, and dwarves simply aren't as girthy as glyphids
Man, wish I could save the seed for this week, especially cave 2
Deep dive in 42:04, nice
I definitely was carried through the EDD. But it was my first one. I'm also dumb and didn't realize shield disruption was a thing. Once i saw that i did way better 😂
I think it should be hard though. It's end game gameplay isn't it? Reminds me of challenge rifts in diablo except you pick your loadout
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Today I met 5 bulks on elite deepdive 😮
i had 2 on stage 2 cause my team pulled a bunch of legs at the same time
5 though jfc
Oh I forgot to say, I met 5 of them at 3rd stage 😄 Absolutely unheard of, for me
tf how long did it take you
Oh I see, time might be the factor... Took over one hour coz we missed one more player
how many eggs did you fucking pull
...what the actual fuck did I read?
I'm hoping that next week's Elite Deep Dive is a bit more forgiving with the mutators.
no shields is not fun.
so i got this disk after doing a deep dive right
but i go to the forge and it says i dont have any available even though it says i got one when i exit the forge
if its a blank core, you have to infuse it by completing a machine event
a who the what now
machine event. basically a special challenge.
and where do i find these special challenges
they spawn in normal, non deep dive missions.
ah
also one of the disks gave me a wepon overclock for the driller
but i go to that gun and it says something about instable overclock
Machine events spawn randomly in regular missions just like cargo crates and lost helmets.
a bit higher of a frequency though
pretty much
yeah they are pretty obvious
and the instable overclock?
Unstable.
yes
has one extreme upside, but has some pretty SEVERE downsides.
it wont let me equip it though
you have to have a modification in each tier to apply an overclock.
i have every thing unlocked
do you have the minerals and credits to forge it?
yes
i have already forged
but it saying unstable overclock
and i cant equip it to my gun
im not on my computer right now
i was just wondering if anyone knew
i will do tomorrow, thank you
any one got this weeks deep dive objectives?
thanks
I think i had 3 bulk detonators on stage 2 edd, but sand sharks are still worse
I have a question. Do i get matrix cores from both the normal deep dive and the elite one?
Yes.
@keen bronze have you unlocked a mod in every tier for the gun?
did you choose a mod on every tier?
g
yes everything is chosen
@keen bronze huh idk then because that should be the only thing that stops you adding an overclock
hmmmm
can you send a pic of what the scrren looks like on gallery maybe?
yea the spitters and sharks in the big room on stage 2 made it challenging
i had really unlucky spawns, a trawler picked me up and dragged me back towards a bulk i was running away from
yo is this lfg
No this is patrick
If you're looking for a group, perhaps use the #lfg-steam server?
ah yes
hello when is a good time to start doing edds? i got my first promotion and did a deep dive but i'm skeptical about joining an edd run.
Having at least 1 good overclock for your primary weapon and being able to provide meaningful support/play in Haz4 would be where I would put the mark. It's also better if you have a full team before going in so if you start one make sure to have all slots filled prior to dropping in.
@proper cradle ^ Sorry I forgot to mention so you knew I was responding to you.
thanks a lot !
not like just trying one out on solo would be a bad idea
I've completed the EDD. it is pure uncensored EVIL.
I did my first deep dive today and found it pretty easy and straight forward. Having been playing on mostly hazard 4 I thought "Okay, why not the EDD?" And then I got recked. Are they all that bad?
depends on the Mutators.
if Shield Disruption does happen, I'd prefer it to be at the start or at the very end. not the middle.
I see now why I got kicked from an earlier lobby
I did my first deep dive today and found it pretty easy and straight forward. Having been playing on mostly hazard 4 I thought "Okay, why not the EDD?" And then I got recked. Are they all that bad?
@tough meadow this is one of the easiest edds lol
They arent so bad, you just arent prepared
they go to hazard 5 and hazard 5.5 after the first stage
@granite lantern so according to your logic, everyone has to be able to solo the EDD, regardless of mutators? seems farfetched if you ask me.
I think its fair to say the large majority of players can learn to solo EDD's actually. I think that most people who struggle just haven't played that much
I've got 263 hours, however I am not even ready to do normal DDs solo. I like having a full squad.
how often do you try to solo DDs?
never.
So you haven't played the relevant content very much at all :p
with that comment, now I'm even less motivated to do that.
Why?
you're basically saying almost 270 hours is haven't played enough.
no no
im saying that 270 hours of playing multiplayer doesn't translate very well to playing solo
if you wanna get better at playing solo, you should play solo. much in the same way that I could still learn a lot by playing more multiplayer cause I've done most of the EDDs solo
If anything 270 hours in the game means that picking up solo EDDs would probably go really fast, I don't doubt you could spend a week playing to get it down to a point where you can finish it in a few tries
there's challenging difficulty, then there's utter bullshit.
which is what this week's EED is classed as. utter BS.
other edds have been harder
and people only though the second stage was difficult
so i wouldnt classify the entire edd as utter bs
idk when I started doing EDDs (somehwere after 1.0) but id say this was the hardest one since i started
eh
i dont think shield disruption is that bad
tons of nitra
i was eating supplies every minute
sure, i dont think it was drastically different from other EDD
in my book, Shield Disruption in the MIDDLE is BS. put it at the start or the end.
if it was at the end you would probably still call it bs
i mean, the earlier you get shield disruption the less of an issue it is
then couple it with Critical Weakness to make it a fuckin cakewalk.
there was lots of nitra this edd
yep
id bet more than 50% of my resupplies were stage 2
though nitra generally isnt an issue in EDDs
^
This EDD is difficult but so are EDDs in general. The two big mistakes I could see people making are not going into stage 2 with a comfy nitra cushion and pulling eggs without their team being ready for the added Fun to shoot at
my first Completed EDD was Total Fissure in Glacial Strata. did that one TWICE.
#drg-chat is probably more appropriate, but you might be able to afford 1 upgrade for a primary weapon for whatever class you wanna play
Deep Dives in Sandblasted Corridors are just clusterfucks in general.
Trawlers can be pretty annoying thats for sure
I liked the Total Fissure EDD. had top tier coordination and comms.
@granite lantern so according to your logic, everyone has to be able to solo the EDD, regardless of mutators? seems farfetched if you ask me.
@somber jacinth i mean, this one edd doesnt have particulary fucked up mutators
the only mutator that is a massive middle finger to solo players is haunted cave
which can be an ass depending on the level
Shield Disruption can fuck right off.
happily, haunted is trivial to scout
It gives you extra HP so you are tankier against multiple dmg being dealt to you at once
if you have trouble with it then bring red rock blaster
its going to increase your health by well over double on shield disruption
anyways shield disruption is not as bad as you're making it out to be
the problem is on your end bro
and there goes my motivation to even try DDs solo. thanks for ruining it.
Are.. Are you okay?
and there goes my motivation to even try DDs solo. thanks for ruining it.
@somber jacinth unironically, man up lol
rather than saying that you should like
play the game
get more used to it
become a better player
I dont see myself as a particulary great player and i have been soloing every edds that come out for months
even the one with haunted cave PE a while ago
wait, dyou solo on engi or scout, i forget
I'm just surprised you give such credence to haunted, admittedly ive never solo'd on engi tho
you could have just said that before you know
if you want to, you can just like
wait until the week does not have shield disruption
but if you give up every time the week has low o2, shield disruption, lethal enemies or haunted cave, you're gonna have a bad time
Haunted Cave is as bad as Magma Core.
I can deal with it yes, but I don't like it.
scout edd isnt bad
i have yet to try solo gunner edd
I dont generally like solo gunner much because slowest mobility
i guess i'd wait for rocky mountain beer before attemptin
his shields make uplinks really easy though
gunner admittedly seems to have a harder time soloing than all the other classes
even if the uplink had bad rng and fucks you up, you can probably pull through without firing with bosco revives and sheild
eh i disagre
*disagree
scout is considerably more uncomfortable imo
specially because uplinks
scout is absolutely amazing at everything except for uplinks
uplinks hes admittedly especially weak at compared to other classes
scout has really slowass wave clear
i dont think scout generally has to wave clear tho
he has considerably less breathing room than other classes
dunno fan i find it very uncomfortable to ignore waves as solo scout, and also slow
imagine having to stall out everythin forever in h5
hm
like ye, you cant kill stuff fast, but also, you can just pull like 4 eggs at the same time cause lol who cares im scout
i generally just clear everything and then go back to work
i mean for eggs sure
i usually just kill the egg swarms though
but still pull out multiple
if i have a supply pod then its good news to see the swarm stack up kinda
re gunner tho: gunner is in the awkward position of not really getting to cheat any of the things that show up in EDD (unlike driller or scout), not having meaningfully more killing power (than driller or engi) and his shield being significantly less useful in single player
uh disagree
shield is omega useful in single player
and he does have a much easier time in uplinks
specially with shields and ziplines
also his best primary grunt clear has a lot of ammo
you think he has an easier time on uplink than driller or engi?
I usually suffer as gunner when the nitra rng sucks and i run out of secondary
than driller yea tbh
engi no
hmm
provided they bring AC
if you get a bulk you can also like
nuke it with secondary
idk uplinks already feel pretty trivial to driller - with the exception of rng spawns theres not many situations he cant deal with that gunner can
if it goes wrong you can like
shield ressuply
get ammo shoot more
if anything you die to bulk explosion or one aoe which will cost you a revive
but if you go to uplink without revives youre already slightly begging to RNGesus
what is something driller can deal with that gunner cant?
oh nothing
other than bad terrain
i dont think driller is better than gunner
i think theyre pretty much same level of killyness
for solo ye
ye, for solo, clearly
like the worst thing that can happen to driller is a bulk spawning so close that sticky flames to slow isnt enough
ye
and gunner absolutely has more tools to deal with that
subata wont deal with that
i mean, it will, just not if the bulk spawns within range to start aoeing
whats the EDD goals this week?
thank you!
Hey guys i was wondering if increasing the size of your squad increases the difficulty of a deep dive? ive never done one and i want to be prepared
yeah
Thank you! wait arent you the employee of the month? Im so honored!
lol
thanks to you too m8
this community is too good to a simple greenbeard like me
I completed the dive and I just want to ask.. was the 2nd stage as hard for you guys as it was for me? I did it with a 4 man team
I had 3 runs fail on the 2nd stage
yea, I had a total of 4 bulks during that stage, had a Pret. wave and had a bunch of oppressors spawn.
it was almost as hard as the 4th of July EDD
Can some gracious greybeard carry a scout on EDD to stage 3? I'm strugglebusing
We don't even have to do the last stage if ya want to save time
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Get R' done!
I wish we can get our characters tattoos
what are the best and most usefull perks ?
that depends on your playstyle and preferences
might be more specific if you want to know more about one
i need a usefull blue one i got thorn and iron will i like the torn but not the iron will what do you use ?
what are the best and most usefull perks ?
@void rune
best passives according to general consensus : born ready, deep pockets, thorns
best actives : iron will, field medic ,dash
guess you are promoted and need one for the second slot, there is dash, and berserk
oh, hover boots too
Yes
just be good at h5
edds difficultly is haz 5 basically
the difficulty is 4.5 5 5.5
what do I need to do to beat haz 5, use all of my tools to the greatest ability?
great
maybe mess with ur perks a bit
try having an area prepared before a wave
bring beer buffs for edd always
the 3 for 1 is nice
you can also ask and discuss builds in #drg-chat to try to optimize a bit
If it helps at all, for me, the gunner has been a huge help with harder deep dives. The use of the shield and the use of ziplines really helps out.
failed the edd again, I feel like this one with shield disruption was just not meant to happen for me
Yeah, for the missions you succeeded only
You get the rewards from each stage you passed (core, OC) but 25% of the rest.
We were one egg away from escaping that second level dammit
so if I fail on stage 3 I get all the stage 2 rewards + 25% of what was collected in stage 3?
I could have been happy with that
1 and 2 rewards, 25% of the total other stuff.
which is still a lot of xp, I failed edd at level 2 with pots of gold, still got 13500 creds and 9000 xp
Which is as much as a successful regular mission on like haz 4
no you won't get the same Overclock or cosmetic
no you can't redo the same Deep dive , you wont get the cores again
Oh repeats as in repeating the deep dive yeah no you get those once per week
You also can't get duplicates of cores you already own
oh I meant repeats as in getting core duplicates
but you can still play the DDs you just can't get more cores rt
Yeah
You can replay as much as you want, I assume that's where the speedrunning aspect comes in
Knowing the levels by heart etc, which you can't do in the regular game
oh tru dumb question
But no more cores if you got them once
WELL i MADE IT TO STAGE 3 OF EDD
solo
ran out of ammo
but I'm pretty happy as is
I got my weapon overclock
and when I say ran out of ammo I mean I ran out of breach cutter ammo because that the #1 difference between todays run and yesterday when I was trying to solo with scout
I used 3 breach cutter round to kill 3 prelatorians which just spawned together.
I feel like my average against 3 prelatorians with scout is like 3 mags of something
Ye engineer is a good deal killier than scout. Gj getting to stage 3!
Yeah I think I got it in the bag if I try again, mainly because my routing through stage 2 was so inefficent I hit too many swarms
Also if I'm a bit faster on stage 1 I think I can hit only one swarm, last time I was like 10 seconds off finishing before the swarm hit
though that doesn't super matter since I only use one resupply that mission anyways
I feel like my build wouldn't have worked that well in a 4 man squad, i just use ammo too quickly
you get a lot more to yourself as a solo
ye solo builds arent always the same as group builds. That said, keep in mind that the number of swarms in stage 2 is always gonna be the same (its primary objective is a length 3 eggs, so you'll always get 3 swarms)
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Length 3 eggs? Meaning you'll get swarms after deposting 3 eggs and after depositing all eggs?
f-five?
One of whom spawned on the escape pod
We managed to kill one bulk with another bulk
Galaxy brain
Wiped on third somehow, the unluckiest mactera swarm ever
@merry monolith I think is more like there's 33% to 50% chance for announced swarm with each egg, otherwise it's going to be a small one
Multiple grabbers, multiple menaces, dozen mactera, the usual swarm all while we had just popped the dread
smh
@merry monolith you always get the same amount of total swarms for a given amount of eggs if it's the primary objective. You get 1 swarm for 2-4 eggs, 2 for 6 eggs and 3 for more than that. When they'll happen is random tho
The length I mentioned is because for regular missions, length 1 is always 4 eggs, length 2 is always 6 etc
gotcha
When did edd last reset? last thursday?
yes, they reset every thursday
oh boy, core gameplay later today
If you're unsure, check the assignment board or Deep Dive terminal, there should be a timer
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Anyone running a last minute DD?
here's to a ghost warning salvage
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any EDD screenshots
Likely will be around 10am, so about 2 hours or so.
shield disrup salvage huh
would be really shitty if the ground opens up under the uplink
I mean
wait
you mean I can stop the fuel pods before it go all the way down?
it won't drill through my plats
but what if the fuel cell already lands and the ground opens up, and it drops all the way
I ve had that happen once it opened up as I was almost done building it I don t think you can prevent it with platforms
It had already dropped but I think if it hasn't yet you can stop it with a plat
Regular DD
https://imgur.com/a/dCmlUKJ
@ancient cove making up for the bugged black boxes it seems?
lmao
I start the new EDD and... Hacker, right away. Unlimited ammo on his Cryo cannon. Kept firing unlimited snowballs. That's an alt-F4 for me.
Good man
this week's edd looks a bit dangerous
gonna need my elemental insulation
i can tell im gonna be stepping on hot rocks all day with no shields to tank it
shield disruption salvage magma core

