probs egi or gunner
#deep-dive-discussion
worldly burrow
obsidian gorge
you can't play deep dives when you are starting though
frosty jacinth
oh can the missions be endless?
obsidian gorge
it is only 3 stages
worldly burrow
as long as you dont push the button lol
obsidian gorge
and you shouldn't really wander around on deep dives unless necessary or helpful
worldly burrow
I mean we just stockpiled Nitra on our first DD since it carried over
we also earned like 18k gold on our first DD because of pot o gold beer
dull silo
When I see pot o gold for edd, I go in sober. so i dont get tempted to mine gold
worldly burrow
oh we got all the gold it was gold member up in our dive
it funded my now purple hair and some overclocks
frosty jacinth
does this game have a matchmaking mode ( like quick play ) or just a server browser?
reef wolf
week 40's EDD is pretty rough
gloomy patrol
unborn nexus
stage 3 is quite the challenge
especially when you didn't managed perfectly and you get in a point where insta swarms are here and you just fight to survive
reef wolf
you gotta kill the dreadnought first
unborn nexus
yeah
reef wolf
then mine the blue thingies
unborn nexus
we killed the dreadnought, but it was too slow, when we managed to kill it it was rez after rez and trying to survive and when we were "good" rng sent us a fucking swarm
in the end we were craving for nitra like a bunch of crackheads while the entire map was filled with glyphids
slender moon
at that point it's probably better to see if you can rush it to the finish
PE gets harder and harder the longer you take
unborn nexus
Yeah, and we tried to go faster but without any muns to keep the bugs at bay we were easily overwhelmed
slender moon
it should be possible to get to stage 3 with around 300-400 nitra
so you don't have to worry about it and go straight for the objectives
go straight for bet-c if she's there > rush the dreadnought > start collecting aquarqs like it's a race
junior fossil
one of the problems is there are lots of aquarq high up
what I would reccomand is rash bet-c, get as many aquarq by the first swarm, then do the dread
slender moon
well, either driller goes beeline for the aquarqs
or you can scout + engie pancakes them
junior fossil
do not do the dread till you are after a swarm
slender moon
the latter worked great for us
junior fossil
in PE every 5 mins is a swarm
slender moon
you still get bigger side swarm as you spend more time on the mission
so I think doing dreadnought first is probably better
sour olive
I've never done a deep dive (started one solo but didn't have enough time to finish), when should one look into trying them?
slender moon
there's no risk of a proper swarm if you do it first
@sour olive I started them right after my first promotion
junior fossil
normal deep dives, if you are doing haz3-haz4, elite when you are used to haz5
slender moon
or you can get used to haz 5 by doing the EDD
that's what I did
missing the weekly rewards sucks
although starting with this week's particular EDD might not be ideal
sour olive
ah thanks, joining other people or solo? I don't want to ruin anyone's game - I'm very comfortable at haz 3 and I usually do my share in haz 4 but I don't regularly go for haz 4
slender moon
but you can at least get stage 1 and 2 rewards
junior fossil
you should be fine on the normal deep dives than
sour olive
okay thank you c:
junior fossil
normal deep dives are slightly harder than haz3
idle dock
@sour olive I'm looking to do a deep dive
sour olive
I don't have time for one today sadly, I think they can go for a while, right? (1-1.5h I'd guess?)
junior fossil
it changes based on weekly mission pull, but a good rule of thumb is 1hour more or less
deft kite
i'd say it's a lot closer to 30-45 min than an hour
like the last 4 or 5 edd haven't been over 40 min for me
granite lantern
this is the only edd where i got over 35 mins in a while in solo
I'd say this edd can easily go for about a hour in a team
otherwise it should be like
45 minutes ish for the average team
slow ivy
In no way a speed run, but I did it first try :) https://puu.sh/G1hFg/8969511c89.jpg
uneven cosmos
any 100+ engi wanna 2-man the EDD with me?
granite lantern
I would but i dont trust people who put level limits in their lobbies
/s maybe tomorrow
uneven cosmos
prefer not to have greenbeards join and then wipe
golden crystal
has anyone done the elite deep dive in a group of 4?
naive forum
anyone oceanic wanna join me and a rando for EDD?
somber jacinth
I've almost completed the EDD twice. got wiped on Stage 3 both times
naive forum
do deep dives scale down with less people?
obsidian gorge
yes
somber jacinth
so Stage 3 hates us no matter what. good to know.
opal burrow
does the deepdive always give the same reward?
junior fossil
in terms of credits and xp yeah, but it also one of the ways to get cores weekly
it is always blank, weapon, cosmetic
opal burrow
but do you get the same core if you do the deep dive over and over?
junior fossil
nope, you do not get dups
and you only get cores for the first clear of the week
you can how ever get the same cosmetic for a different class
and if you have all of a type of core, you would be granted a blank, for example I have all the weapons OCs so I get blanks instead of weapons OCs
wraith shard
i recently unlocked deep dives but i have no idea what they are or what to expect
junior fossil
3 back to back missions with a normal objective and a 2nd mini normal objective
normal dives are slightly harder than haz3, elite starts slightly harder than haz4 and become slightly harder than haz5
sour olive
hm just got dropped out of a deep dive ... no session ended or similar screen
is that a thing that just happens?
dull silo
Hasn't happened to me
finite compass
Are matrix cores cosmetics exclusive or you can buy it at the shop
dull silo
Exclusive
finite compass
thx bud
dull silo
All gud
gray cape
The last mission of the weekly elite dive is a bad joke
blazing zephyr
hi im back
finite compass
is there a way to show your region in discord?
@worn marten not you
in this server
lofty wing
last EDD was the best of the 3
just had to kite the horror
overall great arena though
stage 2 and stage 1 were my issues
outer prawn
this weeks EDD is fuckin impossible XD
junior fossil
not really it is fairly simple
outer prawn
The second level with the lethal enemies makes it rediculous regardless of how well you did on the first start
the trawlers nearly 1shot whoever they hit, you have basically an entire swarm of rando spawns and a detonator as soon as you start the level, covered by huge high falls and 2 spitball infestors alongside entire squadrons of mactera
junior fossil
yeah it is fun
outer prawn
We tried it 4 times and never got more than 4 eggs before being entirely overwhelmed and over-run by warden/guard/slasher swarms with praetorian backups, much less the grabbers and trawlers
dull silo
surprising, what setup were you running?
wraith shard
Anyone up for a edd? I play scout
outer prawn
1 each class. For me it was scout with semi auto, driller used flamer, gunner used thunderhead, engi used whatever engis use.
Everyone except me even had self revive, I had auto revive and self-save from being grabbed.
fallow spruce
easiest way is 2x gunner eng scout team
outer prawn
Ideally yeah. But you can't always get that with a random group
I take what I can get
fallow spruce
if u go with randoms make sure they speak english
and if u know what to do
just sexplain
lol
explain š
outer prawn
I do. And they did. But we would still be overpowered by the sheer level of waves the game throws at you in that second level, and the layout of the RNG set
the map is rough
fallow spruce
nah bro its lack of dmg
outer prawn
Sooner or later someone is getting picked by a trawler or grabber and dropped into the black depths
outer prawn
G4u
Be aware that when you are playing alone, enemies require substantially less damage to be killed, and do less damage.
it scales based on how many people are in the match
fallow spruce
i know that but still was hard š
thing is
go
2x gunner
1 AC 1 mini
eng bc mines
scout hmm whatever but
cryo on zukhovs help team a lot
outer prawn
MAyhaps. Gunna let my comp cool down a bit
fallow spruce
@outer prawn sry bro i ment @wraith shard š
wraith shard
oh with the edd?
fallow spruce
yeah
wraith shard
sounds good man, im in a double xp mission right now gimme a bit
fallow spruce
nw take ur time
wraith shard
tyty
Im crashing in the same exact spot on the regular Deep Dive stage 2 seed.
Anyone having any similar issues?
fringe kettle
@wraith shard pinned messages in #bug-discussion amd FX/Realtek audio fix.
wraith shard
What do you get from 3rd stage edd?
obsidian gorge
cosmetic core
waxen mist
well we somehow pulled off the EDD me and 2 other guys
rather messy but not exactly hard, specially the 3rd stage
the ghost didn't spawn for some reason so we just rushed it
waxen mist
nope
obsidian gorge
the scanner didn't even show the black spot ?
granite lantern
the ghost didn't spawn for some reason so we just rushed it
bruh moment
wraith shard
@granite lantern lol
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knotty rampart
Yeeeyyyyyy
tardy sandal
Third try yesterday, finally made it, last stage still uncomplete like tf ._.
thorny geyser
minor vale
Anyone else on xbox having issues joining games and having other join yours? Me and my buddy cannot get into a game or even see each others lobbys in the lists
heavy oriole
the ghost didn't spawn for some reason so we just rushed it
@waxen mist
Oh cmon lol
heavy oriole
That thing trashed us. One dude went down in the turret platform and it legit didnāt leave his body
waxen mist
all i remember is that my team pulled out 5 eggs at once and we had to fight bugs for 30 minutes and used up all our nitra
in stage 2
junior fossil
that is a galaxy brain move right there though
heavy oriole
That one my team wiped twice, both times being cliff related
junior fossil
cliff and oppressor did that to me too
heavy oriole
We had a scout go on the highest point possible in that death pit, and he died up there
We all died trying to get him
junior fossil
when oppressor kicks you so high, and you go past a cliff, it is a sure death
heavy oriole
Canāt answer why we didnāt do that Harp, it was a shit show
waxen mist
well my experience with the second stage was a shitshow too
heavy oriole
the other time, teammate was shot off a zip line into the pit. I tried getting him, trawler snatched me. Then a mini wave spawned.
waxen mist
gunner pulls out an egg with me having no ammo to fight with and needing a ressuply
"crap, gunner please let us know when you're gonna pull out an egg, lucky for us it didn't trigger a swarm"
"oh okay sorry"
...
5 seconds later
"egg"
"gunner no"
6 seconds later
"egg"
"GUNNER STOP"
heavy oriole
Iāve had someone get mad at me on why I needed time to prepare, as an engineer, for eggs
waxen mist
repeat 3 times untill our gunner dies in the worst location possible
heavy oriole
āItās your fault youāre not preparedā
waxen mist
and then while me and the engi were fighting for our lives, needing to ressuply every minute or so
the engi pulls out another 5th egg
heavy oriole
At that point I shouldāve just platformed him into a Han Solo
waxen mist
"ENGI YOU ABSOLUTE SON OF A-" i ended up being the only one alive and having to somehow climb up to where the gunner was
heavy oriole
for us, the 3rd stage was just brutal
waxen mist
yeah i don't get why people feel the need to pull out eggs as fast as possible
we ended up taking longer from all the bug figthing than it would have taken to just slowly pull out the eggs one at a time
heavy oriole
Yah I donāt get that
waxen mist
and i was scout, the class that needs to prepare the less
feral atlas
this is the piont where you start kicking
waxen mist
i wasn't host tho
heavy oriole
Kicking in EDD is risky
heavy oriole
He wasnāt wasting his time, apparently he won lol
feral atlas
broken clock is right twice a day
and all that
if i found myself with a team that didn't have enough brain cells to logically conclude that doing the thing that spawns a miniswarm, while not prepared for it, is somehow a good idea, I would bail even if winning was still a distinct possibility
these sorts of teams are mentally draining to deal with; solo would be preferable
if anything, it's the host's fault for not enforcing some semblance of cohesion
if the gunner somehow felt like it's a good idea to do the same stupid thing multiple times after being told not to
at some point, you need to crack the whip and threaten a kick, or stop trying to stop the behavior
tranquil lagoon
I feel like games are meant to be played for enjoyment. If everybody's having fun I don't see a reason to threaten kick. If you aren't having fun, don't be there. That's what I try to do.
waxen mist
yeah all things considered they were my friends and we were having a laugh
harsh timber
"egg"
unborn fern
Yo does anybody know what this floating blue dot is!?
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/665195885
blissful hull
i've never done a elite deep dive before, how forgiving are they
blissful hull
should i just wait for next week then
static ridge
how is the regular dive then?
obsidian gorge
certainly less brutal
static ridge
then no edd this week it is
obsidian gorge
well, you might just try getting the first 1-2 rewards
blissful hull
is that first one
blissful hull
whats first stage
sonic topaz
where you have 2k + enemies
that you cant kill
first 2 are pretty ok
but that third
can just not exist
blissful hull
i think ill forgo the last stage
sonic topaz
yea just dont even bother
unless youre a 4 man squad with 200iq strats
just dont even worry about it
indigo jungle
some dwarves collecting deaths in EDD like kids are collecting pokemons smh
more kills as scout than our engi
plain charm
versed willow
@unborn fern that is a waypoint that you set by pressing your interact key (E) with the laser pointer out. It is used as a permanent waypoint for yourself but not others.
unborn fern
@unborn fern that is a waypoint that you set by pressing your interact key (E) with the laser pointer out. It is used as a permanent waypoint for yourself but not others.
@versed willow
OMFG thank you was driving me and my team nuts cause they couldnt see it and i thought i was going crazy and they thought that as well lol
wraith shard
...
There was a Leach
It cought me
I asked for help
Then my whole team wiped
Killed by the same Leach
KURWA
What is wrong with these pepole
Every EDD host atm is like bronze 1 star
@plain charm
Yeach and the Golden ones are much better
quiet wyvern
I'm Gold or higher on my dwarves, I'd be glad to help you out anytime on the EDD's m8 @wraith shard
spare granite
What is the deal w/ PE...? how long until perma-swarm..? 12-15 mins...?
like, 12 mins flat, w/o regard to last wave...? (wave & swarm are separate spawn?)
obsidian gorge
it is not that bad, but yes it gets more and more common, I think you should be able to do it in at most 2-3 swarms
somber jacinth
in terms of Deep Dives, my first successful Elite Deep Dive was Total Fissure in Glacial Strata.
meager tinsel
Yo this is a super specific question but if anyone has a super fun build for the M1000 gimme an @ here, I have every overclock so any suggestion works, I never tried it yet
dull silo
minimalp clips with BXBBA is probably the old reliable, bog standard meta. the only "fun" build ive seen that performs well is @last phoenix's build which is electrifying focus shot with AAAAX, which can 1shot grunts with the electric dot using focus shot, and which has blow through rounds so ends up doing quite well at wave clear for scout standards
last phoenix
If you like putting your team to shame by having the highest KD as scout it works well
lusty gulch
ive had more success with bronze 1 star hosts than with gold 2 star players in EDD
account level 200 driller 3 star gold and still satchel charges himself and has less kills than scout
odd comet
I don't think I've ever actually had a bad host
lusty gulch
i usually host but i always get like surpisingly bad people somehow
odd comet
Except when the whole team is level 30, never run an EDD before, on a week when the EDD is particularly bad
I've had that happen a couple times
And I'm not good enough to carry them with me, usually :p
odd comet
Eh
I can pull my weight. Maybe even make up for a bad teammate. But I'm not good enough to drag an entire team of bad people to victory
lusty gulch
not with that attitude
odd comet
Nah, I just know my limitations.
rose thunder
Anyone got a screenshot for the regular dive?
versed willow
Just search for image in this channel.
rose thunder
Wha
static hound
keep trying on 3rd stage
versed willow
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static hound
1/3 teams are succeeding from what Im watching
woeful marten
playing EDD as gunner+engineer duo, any advice regarding gun setups? I am gunner with carpet bomber, engi has GL with fire, we die
would BC suit better?
junior fossil
BC is better usually, both damage and ammo wise
elfin pond
last phoenix
Engineer Should be taking clean ammo OC for the warthog if he has it and going full on damage. helps with dreads and nitra is not a concern
with carpet bomber you will not be able to kill the dread effectively it has explosive resistance as linerax mentioned.
Take a ammo hungry minigun build and abuse the nitra bonanza
scarlet sparrow
how do i link an invite in the LFG?
willow salmon
You need to have discord linked with your steam. Then when your game is running a green plus should appear on your "attachment" on discord and clicking it will let you post an LFG
scarlet sparrow
ty!
last phoenix
full damage
woeful marten
I have the Leadstorm OC on my minigun
last phoenix
no ammo mods
woeful marten
ah kk
last phoenix
lead storm can be hard to use (OC) your choice really
last phoenix
ahhh nice
granite lantern
what other OC would recommend?
@woeful marten if you want a standard minigun then a little more oomph is probably the best one available
burning hell is also very good with a fire build
woeful marten
is BH viable for EDD/haz5?
wary meadow
stage 3 is awful, we got there really fast like 35 min first 2 stages and when we got in non stop spawning, literally. it was so painful to get the dread and 8 aqs but then it got to the point where pockets of them were spawning every 20s and waves would hit and it never ended. awful edd this week
woeful marten
no worries Stret, thanks for help š
static hound
GL with fire? Yeah definitely switch to BC
Yeah Robax, hopefully your gunner has a good setup to take down those mini spawns fast enough so your squad can sweep the dread
I did it with neurotoxin AC and carpet AC, used the BRT to burn the dread every time
granite lantern
GL with fire is nice too
wary meadow
I've made it to the escape 3 times solo but it non stop spawns mactera for some reason, like i'll kill 2 or 3 and 20s later there will be more, makes it super hard to use zips. Just got done losing with the pod coming in 30s and got shot off the zip. There's something about that map that makes it unfun level of challenging. Why do mobs need to spawn non stop?
lofty wing
might wanna use different weapons
something like a magic bullets bulldog or lead storm lead storm
enemies are probably spawning so much because you're in a 4 stack
wary meadow
Finally. The trick was to try it with 3 ppl. The scaling was much more managable. Solo was super hard esp trying to stay alive with so many mactera and everything. With 3 there was considerably less than 4 and 2 ppl are better than a Bosco (as good as a goodboye he is). Just use your ziplines ppl!!
grave fox
stage 2 of the elite dive is a nightmare i just
like what
i've tried it like 4 times but the trawlers are just one-shot on full hp
obsidian gorge
well, at least there is enough room to see anything coming from far away
blissful hull
for stage 3 should we kill dread first
obsidian gorge
based on what others say I think yes ?
somber jacinth
if I take another run at the EDD, I'm gonna let the team know that the dread needs to die first and foremost.
wraith shard
stage 2 EDD, make a bunker in the big cave,, after every egg, get in there. makes it real easy
stage 3 is insane though
obsidian gorge
isn't that too dangerous, the cave is big enough that you can just see anything coming from far away so you can take care of it, inside a bunker you will probably be caught by a trawler or even bulk
wraith shard
as long as there is no detonator you should be fine.
completed EDD today with a bunker in stage 2
nothing got in
zipline towards the entrance of the bunker and you can get there quick with an egg
obsidian gorge
I personally would use the option that works in every situation
lofty wing
I can't reccommend a bunker
too likely for a detonator to spawn
better to group up in center and have someone grab eggs
kindred wing
So i see the dd's and stuff are in stages. If you fail on stage 2,do you gotta start over?
obsidian gorge
yes, you do.
kindred wing
Oof
obsidian gorge
no, you don't lose stage 1 reward if you lose at stage 2
kindred wing
I should try normal dd, but i was trying to get my weekly done before it expires
obsidian gorge
the dd will expire too
kindred wing
Yah, but i got an easier time of doing weekly. I promoted like a day ago and I had that 9 mission assignment
And then it opened weekly
obsidian gorge
you should see how much time you have left on the DD terminal
kindred wing
Yah, i think it said 2 days and change when I last looked. Can't remember if that was late last night or today
I usually do like 6-10 missions a day, so i should be ok
fringe kettle
You can, but your only rewards will be credits and xp. You only get the cores once a week per dd (regular and elite).
plush wind
weird that this weeks regular dd took longer than edd for me
knotty rampart
Happens sometimes
civic dune
What is the last mission of the DD this week?
wicked robin
What was your guy's strategies for the third stage of the elite deep dive?
Characters included
Because it's just.. so difficult.
wraith shard
I finished the EDD in 2 out of 3 attempts. I don't think there are any special strategies. The ghost is mostly harmless after you get out of the pit at the beginning. The cave is very open and there are no narrow dead ends. Just bring some ammo efficient AOE weapons to deal with the endless amount of glyphids.
reef wolf
Fuck week 40's EDD
pliant girder
I just want to beat stage 2. With groups it was a total wipe. I soloed it as a scout and managed to finish stage 2 but died on the way to the drop pod because I couldn't get a good aim on that cliff it drops at. If I didn't get the farthest egg last and didn't call in the pod so far away I might have made it. Heart was pounding the whole time.
Trawlers wreck so hard. One hit and you're almost dead.
static hound
Just try it with a group again
though I guess you already beat stage 2 with solo scout
static hound
pretty much depends on playstyle, I use resupplier, born ready, thorns, actives are field medic and iron will to save the team with
others will use stuff like deep pockets or red sugar bonus, or even heightened senses
clear fossil
Oi, some info on deep dives? I hear they really fun. I just don't know what they are. I'm just about to promote my first character
kindred wing
first one is just 3 missions. you get 2 main objectives per mission, no side ones.
our last one was 6 eggs and 450 morkite or something. first was uh 2 dreadnoughts and something else
second one was 1 dreadnoguht and something else
all 3 had mactera plagues
it's in between haz 3 and 4 for difficulty
the elite is like hazard 5.5, and i hear this week's stage 3 really really sucks
golden gazelle
||PE on 3rd stage sucks as swarm size based on whole DD time||
pliant girder
I've played more scout than other classes. Iron will is a no brainer. Always use that. Vampire lets you self revive during iron will. Besides that it gives a little HP bonus that's nice to have but doesn't do that much really, unless you also run bezerker. Bezerker is a strong pick on scout as you don't really have the equipment to deal with large hordes of enemies. But if you can rely on your team to deal with that medic is a better active.
Red sugar is a good pick as you're the only class that can reach the ones on the ceilings. I'd take that over resupply unless your main concern is refilling your ammo. As that skill lets you refill a lot faster than normal and sometimes you can't refill fast enough before you get swarmed. But in general you should have enough breathing room for that to not be an issue.
Thorns is a good quality of life pick if you hate the small enemies but ideally you want to avoid getting hit so this isn't a skill you want to rely on. But it's a great choice for lower difficulties.
Getting materials is scouts main job so bigger pockets is something you want to always run. But I'd rather take something else if playing solo.
Born ready is a good pick but only if it matches your playstyle. With it you don't have to worry about reloading your secondary or flaregun.
Red sugar, bigger pockets, vampire, iron will, medic for a more support build.
Red sugar, vampire, born ready/thorns, ion will, bezerker for a more offensive one.
@drowsy ingot
drowsy ingot
didnāt really know why iron will was so good but being able to self revive with vampire sounds great.
Thank you for taking time to write all of this. Didnāt expect that
Thanks
junior fossil
you can self revive with iron will, but it sometimes bugs out
granite lantern
What was your guy's strategies for the third stage of the elite deep dive?
@wicked robin engi and breach cutter to nuke the thread
junior fossil
do the bet-C asap, dread either after the first wave or stright after bet-c
if there is no bet-c, clear the first wave of enemies and pop the dread
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granite lantern
Thank you mission control, i literally love you, i hope you have not only an excelent year but also a decade, hopefully a century. I wish nothing but the very best for you in life and that your paths are full of riches and success.
strong bluff
So, I've tried my hands on this week elite deep dive (played with Randoms), but level 3 always seems to whoop my arse.
ripe kayak
Jesus christ what was EDD 3 this week
fading rampart
I think 2nd stage was more of a pain
3rd stage was point extraction with a ghost iirc
strong bluff
Jesus christ what was EDD 3 this week
@ripe kayak Like D-Day
fading rampart
yeah, it was like you started on a tall platform
strong bluff
Stage 2 was an awareness check.
strong bluff
stage 2 with lethal sandsharks... darn those things
@junior fossil Hightened senses my friend š
junior fossil
that is the problem, I am always using dash, and the falls in the place makes it so I would want to have hoverboots
vagrant crescent
does dd spawn crates or events at all?
obsidian gorge
nope
fringe kettle
No
vagrant crescent
alright, good to know so i don't waste time looking
fringe kettle
The only stuff on the walls will be gold and nitra. Morkite if itās a mining mission. No crafting resources unless you see a huuli hoarder.
vagrant crescent
yeah i knew about the materials, didn't know about crate/events
fringe kettle
If they spawned theyād be heavily abused.
vagrant crescent
fair point
twilit pivot
hi. what's the strategy for EDD stage 3 this week? Rush the dread then go and mine the gems?
tried 2 times, way too slow, then got overrun by hordes
manic mauve
Oi, new player here. If only one of my teammates has deep dives unlocked, can our other 3 (who don't have it unlocked) join?
blazing mountain
To play a deep dive you must have a promoted dwarf (class), and can only play a promoted dwarf in the DD
normal hull
yeah, every single character in a deep dive must be promoted
even the person who has it unlocked needs to be using their promoted character
semi-related note, haz 5 lethal enemies is brutal
if a slasher sneaks up on you you just kinda...die
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obsidian gorge
pls give ez missions
kindred wing
Is it worth doing EDD if you got no real shot of completing stage 3?
wraith shard
@kindred wing You can get the blank core at least
Imo getting the blank core is enough to count as complete
fringe bloom
tfw you start a solo deep dive with field medic as a perk, but dont notice until the second mission
granite lantern
Is it worth doing EDD if you got no real shot of completing stage 3?
@kindred wing you have a shot
believe n yourself
quick glacier
im sorry i am babybear
d can someone give me a brief rundown of what to expect from deepdive?
granite lantern
@quick glacier
three stages done back to back, active perks and bosco revives are recharged beetwen each stage, but not health or ammo.
Your nitra carries over too.
Each stage is basically a shorter normal mission, that has two primary objectives that must be completed to proceed. The longer, first primary objective dictates the entirety of the map layout, and the second objective is just shoved into it.
kindred wing
I've just never done haz5, so i know I'm pretty much not prepared. Also, no cool overclock stuff yet, so i dunno
quick glacier
thank you @granite lantern . is health not plentiful and its a test of endurance? or is it just like doing 3 missions rapid fire with a little bit more sauce
obsidian gorge
well I have never played haz5 and have done the elite DD
kindred wing
Guess if I take an hour to do the stage 1 and 2, I can just ignore stage 3
granite lantern
thank you @granite lantern . is health not plentiful and its a test of endurance? or is it just like doing 3 missions rapid fire with a little bit more sauce
@quick glacier the later
quick glacier
oh thats fun
im a little worried that im not super good at the game, should I shy away from it or nah if im pretty decent at standard game
kindred wing
I'll check it out. Just need to put the kiddo in bed first
quick glacier
oh ok nice thank you
granite lantern
5.5 is way less worse than it sounds
fringe kettle
Modifiers make more of a difference than the haz does on the EDD.
Iāve had some pretty easy stage 3ās and some absolutely brutal ones.
fringe kettle
Itās entirely up to the generator in a few hours.
obsidian gorge
well, can always check on that "all dives" list, wish it was 2 different lists tho
granite lantern
we all know jacob hand picks each stage every week
based on how happy he is that day
zealous thunder
obsidian gorge
in less than 12 hours
you can see the precise time on the DD terminal
haunted stage 1 only appeared once , and on EDD, it was dreadx2 and 150 morkite on magma
kindred wing
In like 11 hours
obsidian gorge
btw, whoever is running the page should update the EDD stage 1 missions
shadow parcel
is it theoretically possible that the mule can't make it back to the drop pod within 5 minutes?
obsidian gorge
it will always open (with 10-15 seconds left), and yes sometimes it doesn't come back
kindred wing
stage 1 down, let us gogogoggogogogo
unborn nexus
i'm gonna try that edd alone for once, never tried DD or EDD alone so it's a first and probably not the brightest idea considering how it's considered one of the hardest this week
should i take mini shells on my engi ? it feels a bit weird when i use it but the extra ammos sounds like a must have in that kind of mission
kindred wing
leggogogogogogog
oh shit
i just realized something
this isnt elite
i was wondering why it was so easy
knotty rampart
Lol
fringe kettle
Youāve still got a few hours to do the EDD
kindred wing
i queued for elite, so dunno why it put me here :L(
whatever though, exp/money
so if you fail on 3, what happens
can you restart at 3?
fringe kettle
Nope, youāve gotta start over at stage 1. The good news is you keep the rewards from every stage you have completed though.
So if youāve gone through stage 1 & 2 successfully then youāre only missing out on a cosmetic core for this weeks EDD.
floral canopy
ive gotten so close but i havent been able to do the last stage
unborn nexus
i managed to go to the stage 3 and now i just realized that it was a haunted cave, i forgot about that little tidytinylil detail
floral canopy
3 of the 6 times most people down in the starting hole
unborn nexus
First stage ? hahaha the two others are WAY more fucking hard
floral canopy
yeah ive conceded im not finishing this one
unborn nexus
i'm trying to do it solo, i'm on the third stage just staring at my screen
probably the hardest EDD yet ?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/524659813012209673/728102240216154132/unknown.png just staring at the screen while praying that i don't get fucked when i'm goin off the drop pod
wait there's BET-C ?! on the third stage ? i don't remember that
i definitely don't remember that
floral canopy
welp good lick
unborn nexus
the last one is hell itself
unborn nexus
The true test hold fast or expire
I was soloing the damn thing first death was leech and bosco not giving a damn about it, second was me falling and not seeing my platform because sand storms sure are fun haha quite the fun indeed, and third was the dreadnought chasing me like crazy and hitting me with a fireball as the management announced another swarm
wild shuttle
I'm trying to do the regular deep dive before it restarts
need an LFG or should I just join randos?
unborn nexus
Yeah usually normal DD's are easily feasible, EDD on the other hand can be hard, like that one
wild shuttle
yeah, was just looking for my first normal DD
wasn't too hairy, my engi and 2 scouts...
and some disbelief that it took me until 45 to do a deep dive xD
odd comet
@unborn nexus Static spawns, like leeches, spitballers, breeders, and BET-C are determined by player count. So you may get completely different ones solo than you do with a 4-man team.
But you will still always get the same static spawns with the same player count.
unborn nexus
ooh, i didn't know that
unborn spruce
how hard are the elite ones?
honest tide
depends on RNG. I heard this week's is pretty hard, though.
crystal gate
trust me it is
that last stage made me realise just how good you can get kiting as a scout
we still failed but we got what mattered to me
dull silo
^ this
unless theres an uplink event, scout can basically kite any deepdive that they struggle with
junior fossil
uplink for scout are usually a matter of how much nitra they have for nades
dull silo
eh, uplinks are pretty doable still, youre just kinda beholden to the RNG of the mobs that spawn in a way other classes arent
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granite lantern
o boi
marble cloak
Hopefully no more ghost on EDD
fading rampart
more cores 
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junior fossil
o boy, magma core, dreads+morkite ... and ghost!
marble cloak
wicked steeple
junior fossil
that is a nice first stage for the EDD
ebon anchor
What?
Ghost again, this time on stage one?
I guess you veterans got what you wanted after complaining EDDs been too easy the past few weeks
Ripperoni for the poor greenbeards like myself
granite lantern
o boy, magma core, dreads+morkite ... and ghost!
@NotWhoItSeems#975ā“ ez
fading rampart
just stay away
ebon anchor
Does it dig to you
fading rampart
yes, it makes huge tunnels
ebon anchor
So just rush objectives then, it's probably the only way
junior fossil
rush the objectives and kite
I just killed both dreads together š
2nd stage is morkite + 2eggs, with mactera
ebon anchor
Will do my best
Waiting for you to reach 3rd stage for da picture, hope it's quite alright
uncut raptor
pe lethal incoming
ebon anchor
PE is okay but I am afraid of the ghost mutator cos I don't have much experience with it
My friends too
fading rampart
just don't waste ammo on it
uncut raptor
always have someone ping it so you can keep tabs on where it is
and if it's following you, make sure you keep it away from your team so they can do the objective
ebon anchor
junior fossil
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565850434376302613/728225958699728906/unknown.png this weeks EDD
fading rampart
mini mule stage 3 is always fun
junior fossil
well, they had to have 1 stage really easy...
uncut raptor
love how management always claims stage 3 is the hardest and it throws this at you
ebon anchor
I am kinda happy it's balanced out
so I guess can just rush stage 1 without taking much nitra
thanks Who
fading rampart
nice
granite lantern
the objective on the top dictates the map design dud
its an egg level
so no fixin pods
junior fossil
yup just fix the mule get free nitra
granite lantern
only 1 swarm too
pog
gonna start the edd now
i hate online classes a a a
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662538876241575968/728231427786932264/unknown.png is it just me or is every heckin dev online every thursday at this time
oh fuck nvm
more classes
later i guess
fading rampart
didn't know that @granite lantern, about top 1 in deep dives. I just play
granite lantern
top 1 in dds? lol k
fading rampart
the primary mission
fading rampart
words š¤·āāļø
junior fossil
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565850434376302613/728234451179667476/unknown.png normal deep dive stages
uncut raptor
i was just about to post that lol
ebon anchor
thanks guys
junior fossil
normal deep dive ends with a full salvages :/
uncut raptor
pretty standard DD tbh
wraith shard
Yep, not too bad
junior fossil
well atleast that stage is shorter than expected
uncut raptor
just had two bulks spawn at the same time solo
glad that happened before the uplink
obsidian gorge
mactera and magma core on EDD... welp
junior fossil
for me the bulk spawned only when I was about 80% on the fuel... and it spawned right next to me
wraith shard
@junior fossil Did you post the DD or EDD?
wraith shard
Ah, I'll scroll up
obsidian gorge
looking for has: image in: deep-dive-discussion usually works
wraith shard
It looks doable at least
When it's this fresh I ask because idk what was posted yet.
granite lantern
For fucks sake
Lost 30 seconds and almost failed stage 1 because this game's movement decided to fuck me over
didnt hop over a ledge i cleary should
it could have been 8:30 first stage
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
bosco left me behind when i was downed on extraction
i lost due to time
fuck this retarded game
this doesnt count
my success rate is still 100% okay???
obsidian gorge
rounding up, eh ?
granite lantern
yes
this shit 100% does not count
this is the second time this happens to me in an edd fml
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662538876241575968/728247877364875345/unknown.png but seriously
how the fuck does this even happen
bosco literally flew through me
and afked by the drop pod
uncut raptor
even when you used the call function?
granite lantern
yes
well now i cant call my first run a proper run
because i already know the first 2 stages
@junior fossil i was finna beat yo time
but bosco 100% cucked me
again
willow salmon
That's what he does
Either flies under your crosshair the second you shoot or looks for you two caves over when you get leeched
junior fossil
this week I still didnt do a run that can be count as a speed run tbh
only 36:50 on my first blind of the week
junior fossil
I could proly do better this week though
wraith shard
@granite lantern At least bosco didn't somehow end up over 100 m away from you in .5 seconds.
I look use the pointer and am like "Wai u so far Bosco?"
"What happened?"
little cove
"Come here, ya flying tin can."
granite lantern
no
he legit just afked by the drop pod
I had ordered him to fire a rocket right before i got downed
uncut raptor
i'm referring to what mistertwoscoops said
reef wolf
Is this week's EDD easier than the last one?
kindred wing
yah
reef wolf
thank god
junior fossil
much easier
wraith shard
gnarly
granite lantern
Is this week's EDD easier than the last one?
@reef wolf yea its pretty easy
stage 2 is a ||bit lenghty in terms of how long you have to walk but thats it||
hardest part is probably ||stage 1 with two dreads and a ghost bulk||, but your team can probably ||just outrun dread and go for bulks||
the levels were pretty short outside of second stage and theres lotta nitra
outer pasture
and yes, both edd and dd were very easy today
lofty dove
but... still fun to do.
wraith shard
Looking for a deep dive, I main scout but I can flex
knotty rampart
Nitra is not an issue for deep dive lol
lofty wing
usually never is
calm niche
willow tulip
yeah sorry :/
somber jacinth
I got to the third stage of the EDD and my team got wiped.
granite lantern
F
somber jacinth
thankfully though, stage 3 has no Mutators.
would have been nice to have Crit Weakness
TBH, aside from the Haunted Cave and Mactera Plague in Stages 1 and 2 respectively, this Elite Deep Dive is somewhat manageable.
somber jacinth
my team and I mainly got wiped due to bad positioning.
delicate dagger
this elite deep dive was ez pz
somber jacinth
for me, the fact that its in Magma Core stinks.
vapid monolith
somber jacinth
Secret Ledge can drop off of a ledge.
chrome notch
odd comet
Stage 3 isn't too bad once you clear out all the spitballers and the breeder
But those first few minutes, with spitballers and shockers everywhere, and swarms of mactera buzzing around, were pretty hairy
warped dew
When you complete deep dives, do you get the cores each time or is it just like a one time core reward per week?
obsidian gorge
only 1 time per week
warped dew
Lame :/ that makes so many of those events useless
knotty rampart
Nah
Getting overclocks and blank cores only once a week keeps people from being able to break the game
People farm first objective
Blank core stonks
It also keeps people from getting burnt out
As easily
nova verge
Are rewards the same for everyone in DD and EDD like the chests or no?
Assuming they dont already have it that is
knotty rampart
@nova verge everyone gets blank cores unless they have all cosmetics unlockable by matrix core and overclocks
If you finished them all
You get mineral containers
nova verge
Was referring to just the normal rewards for 2 and 3 lol
knotty rampart
K
Gonna type it
Hang on
If you have all matrix core cosmetics
It gives you a blank
Same goes for overclocks
And if you have all overclocks and all matrix core cosmetics, it gives you mineral containers
I hope that answers your question š
nova verge
...Im just asking if the rewards are the same for everyone asusming they don't have it yet or just starting
nova verge
Okay, all I needed lol
nova verge
lol, sorry but thanks
pure ravine
what are the modifiers for normal deep dive today
odd comet
Nothing too bad.
It was stage 2 lethal enemies, stage 3 regenerative bugs
... I honestly have no memory of stage 1 despite doing it only a few hours ago, so it couldn't be anything bad.
sweet swift
green dagger
Just ran into a guy hacking in our Deep Dive, we had 1 million nitra 
odd comet
I see I'm not the only one with forgettable-stage-induced amnesia
sinful flame
needs to be pinned
blazing current
Nah people need to not be lazy and use the search function
junior fossil
what needs to be pined is use the search for: "in: deep-dive-discussion has: image"
granite lantern
oh, wonderful
this week's EDD 1st stage got me the 30 seconds double dread achievment
17 more cheevos to go
red pine
No black box pog
worldly burrow
how are the dives this weel?
red pine
Bruh I started the elite dive and then I noticed the engineer switched to a second gunner
On morkite missions...
worldly burrow
I noticed the EDD is in the Magma Core
worldly burrow
oof yea we tried out first EDD last week didn't go well on stage one
uncut raptor
it's still tough, but it isn't overtly difficult
granite lantern
EDD is relatively very easy
stage 1 is hardest
stage 2 is just about not rushing the second egg too badly
stage 3 is more of a freebie
worldly burrow
nice nice, we hope to complete it tonight
red pine
Yeah this EDD is the easiest a time ive had in a month or so
Feels like a haz 3 dream until a grunt walks up and pinches you
worldly burrow
those damn grunts. any insight if the flame thrower or cyro gun will be better suited for this
since I play driller
stone bane
are deep dives down?
obsidian gorge
you can't join a deep dive that already started
scarlet willow
i dont see how cryo is ever worth it
the freeze on praes and opressors are nice and really help ur team melt them
but flamethrower subatu can handle them well
cryo in my opinion only is worth for killing breeders
obsidian gorge
see, both can handle them
scarlet willow
both can handle them but flamethrower just is more useful in gameplay
and cryos are useless on dreads
and not really worth on bulks
sure u can stop the explosion if u time it right but is it really worth bringing a cryo over flamethrower for the off chance the situation comes up where its useful
obsidian gorge
so basically cryo is fine for every enemy that isn't dread and bulk, but mostly used for support of team mates fire power
odd comet
I mean, bulks, dreads, and oppressors are the only reason I even take cryo in the first place >.>
It's just so ammo inefficient in every other situation
scarlet willow
well no
cryo isnt good for grunts which is the majority of enemies
and flamethrower is good on praes and opressors
theres just no reason to use cryo
obsidian gorge
grunts freeze so fast though, as well as slashers and guards
scarlet willow
well obviously its still good against grunts it has mad pierce
but flamethrower is just better
odd comet
Flamethrower is shit against oppressors, are you kidding?
scarlet willow
u flame and subatu
odd comet
They have such high health that it does almost nothing to them
And they burn for like half a second
scarlet willow
once burned power attack and unload a clip with volatile bullets
odd comet
If you freeze them, they die really fast.
obsidian gorge
this all just looks like preference and playstyle if we don't use any numbers though
odd comet
Remember, frozen targets get no armor
scarlet willow
whats better
scarlet willow
a weapon that excels at most of the gameplay and can handle the rest
or a weapon that is ok at most of the game and is better at enemies u fight once a swarm
odd comet
I'm not disagreeing that the flamer is better
odd comet
But dreads are literally the only reason you bring cryo in the first plae
odd comet
Unless you're in magma core and don't want hot rock holes everywhere
odd comet
Yes.
scarlet willow
i miss understood and thought u meant the only reason to bring flame is for dread
odd comet
When a target is frozen, it has no armor
odd comet
Yeah
scarlet willow
and u have to run specific mods
so it doenst overheat
before u freeze
iirc flamethrower slow works on dread
odd comet
But if your team knows that it doesn't have armor when frozen, and is keeping an eye on its temperature, they can lay a huge beating down in half a second
odd comet
Not really? Dread has fire resistance
odd comet
You can break its armor with the flamer, but you barely do anything to its actual health bar
scarlet willow
anyways if ur fighting a dread 3 of ur team should alway be pumping damage into it
while the other kites
obsidian gorge
Dread has no fire resistance btw
scarlet willow
and lets them
freezing only lets one person shoot it from infront of it
its just not worth
the damage it does it more than cryos
scarlet willow
3x damage for half a second
bruh
and if anyone is running fire weapon
weapons like
burning hell
its worthless freeze
and again i ask how much ammo does it take to freeze the dread
obsidian gorge
so cryo needs good team mates and planning, while flamer is just easier to use ?
next pebble
scarlet willow
i dont need to bring a cryo specifically to use against praes and opressors
when flamethrower/subatu can handle them and have an easier time against the other 90% of the enemies
cryo isnt even good against mactera
flamethrower kills in the same amount of time
obsidian gorge
ok. it is face melter (direct damage build) vs all freezing power cryo
time to kill with fire vs time to freeze, in seconds
Mactera spawn: 0.81 (flame) // 0.87 (cryo)
Mactera Bomber: 4.08 (flame) // 2.79 (cryo)
Mactera Grabber: 3.06 (flame) // 1.57 (cryo)
merry grail
I don't necessarily want to spoil myself much, but I'm just curious as to how different Deep Dives are from the normal game. Are there new enemies, new objectives, etc?
fringe kettle
Without spoiling anything, budget roughly an hour for each one.
merry grail
Oh, interesting
Although my last 3/3 mining mission took me 45 minutes, haha
Alright, thanks!
scarlet willow
the majority of mactera u fight will be spawn
and when fighting anything thats not grunts and spitters u pretty much always switch to subatu after the burn
stone bane
deep dives are down?
obsidian gorge
you can't join a deep dive that already started (x2)
odd comet
But honestly though, why would you use face melter
It's even more ammo inefficient than the cryo
scarlet willow
and why would i run full offensive cryo
i still dont understand how u could think cryo is better than flame on dreads
u have to track the dread perfectly and make sure ur cryo will last long enough before it overheats
normal hull
whoof, this week's elite deep dive has been a fantastic reminder about how unapologetically brutal magma core is as a biome
like, compared to every other environment it has the most hazards while also having the least amount of positives
and molten rock in haunted cave dreadnoughts just turns any ill-executed dread fight into a terrifying game of the floor is lava
granite temple
Play gunner and bring higher ammo capacity on your zipline along with sprint, make a web of ziplines, and just make sure you watch the fireball
knotty rampart
No need to do that
hazy dirge
Damn this weeks EDD was pretty easy
reef wolf
stage 1 is annoying if you don't have 1 person luring the ghost away from your team
the rest is pretty easy
granite lantern
I didnt mind stage 1
Pretty comfy dread spots
I'll even do two dreads at once if the loadout is gucci
drowsy ingot
Best scout starting gun?
wary wyvern
depends
Do you like go commando or keep your distance?
I use Assault Rifle and dual smg for commando and Sniper rifle and shitgun if I want to go camping
drowsy ingot
Okay
rotund veldt
I feel that Mactera's are better shot down using the pistol or EPC but I have a hard time giving up my ranged digging capability
How fast do I pop a Mactera with the Subata?
obsidian gorge
well, that depends on many factors, mods, hazard, etc
rotund veldt
Oh, I mean stage 2 of Elite DD
A fully specc'd out Subata with the Venom? But it's only 20%, not sure if it's worth it
Maybe my fast charge EPC can work
obsidian gorge
we can do some math, but testing things in game is also a very good idea
static hound
the subata destroys mactera even without venom
nevermind that you have great weakpoint modifiers and can fit 22 rounds allowing you to down many mactera before needing to reload
rotund veldt
What are some good dreadnought speed kill strats?
As a driller I mean, I can use either the cyro cannon or the flamehtrower but I'm stuck with the EPC
obsidian gorge
why stuck with the EPC
if you are going for flamethrower you probably want direct damage, don't expect to be burning the dread, but now for cryo it would be much harder to use it well, since it stays frozen for less than half a second, and not sure how useful ice storm would be for it
rotund veldt
For the long range mining, trying to learn how to use the unstable field
scarlet willow
make sure ur using unfiltered fuel with flamethrower
use c4s on armour phases
and maybe try a bit of supply drop cheese if u want
static hound
better to use damage flamethrower than damage cryo since cryo doesn't get as much ammo
as for speed killing it, well that's really more about your gunner/scout/engineer dps than just you as the driller
just strip the armor so they can nuke it
use your sabata, it does decent damage to dreads when exposed
pliant girder
hoo boi that was quite the challenge
stage 2 specifically
much better than last EDD
in that one a swarm of macteras pop out of thin air and kill you instantly
at least this one is a straightforward gauntlet and you can actually protect yourself from them
rotund veldt
The enemies scale according to the number of players right?
Made it to stage 3 and immediately team wiped to 3 spitballers while on top of a cliff
With nowhere to run and enemies from all side
pliant girder
i did it solo and ran into one spitballer ircc
obsidian gorge
first DD fail for having to run away from bulk mid fuel uplink
celest sluice
Ouch
willow salmon
Yup, happens
Imagine being pincered by two bulks during uplink, team I was part of had to be hella efficient that we survived this
obsidian gorge
isn't it the only mission type where death isn't the only way to fail ? now watch me complete the EDD just fine
willow salmon
It is, which is dumb. If we already estabilished link once why can't we do it again
And why do we need to camp by fuel cells since it should be either done automatically since they are already down there and set up or should be carried manually
obsidian gorge
"now you have to wait so I set things for another try"
and then instead of failing you have to wait / fight and get another try
celest sluice
That would actually be really nice.
granite lantern
first DD fail for having to run away from bulk mid fuel uplink
@obsidian gorge bring iron will and breathing room
acheive the cheese
jaunty apex
Ok stupid question here, but what exactly are deep dives? And what's the benefit of doing these?
I'm new to the Game, and haven't done one yet.
teal radish
fringe kettle
The one that suits your play style the best
fringe kettle
Taking large damage with low ammo is meaningless if you canāt hit your shots. Just play around with the mods and find the ones you like using more.
obsidian gorge
@jaunty apex it is a 3 stages long mission, each stage you have to complete 2 main objectives (such as morkite + eggs) , every time you complete a stage the first time (per week) you get a special reward, and the map is always the same for everyone, the difficulty is fixed too, being haz 3 - 3.5 - 3.5 for regular dives, and 4.5 - 5 - 5.5 for Elite, you access them after you promote a dwarf, which you will get by playing and reaching level 25
ancient cove
Any tips for first time solo edd?