So I was just suffering bad RNG
#deep-dive-discussion
feral atlas
it's not bad rng
dealing with bulks is trivial as long as it isn't coming up right under you
just spec bosco into electric bullets if you're solo
any form of cc slows him to a crawl
scout can IFG him and vaporize him with any + crit weapon
if you're not running IFG, use the BOM GK2 + flame boomstick combo
on solo, you should be about to kill a solo bulk in around 2.5 mags
driller is just sticky flame + a subata
gunner just needs to spam minigun/six shooter and use the shield to zone the bulk to buy time if needed
engi just needs to breathe in the bulk's general direction with a breach cutter
twin idol
Done now
I mean it was literally spawning 20m from me solo. It was not trivial
And when it didn’t spawn in those conditions it was trivial
feral atlas
20 m is enough to react
I've had some spawn right on the drop pod at 10m
dunno why that's even a spawn zone
twin idol
That’s cool man
feral atlas
They typically give you a 5s spawn timer before they move, unless you shoot them
if you do that, they start moving immediatley
oblique carbon
Hey! Anyone want to do the EDD? Not done it yet
tidal tinsel
so you can run each deep dive once a week for the overclocks and rest of the week you just do whatever for minerals and such maybe looking for loot boxes ?
frail zodiac
yeah
tidal tinsel
do you promote your other classes for some extra overclock things?
tidal tinsel
think i got a couplek with the missions/
frail zodiac
first on class promo grants another perk slot, after that its purely vanity
frail zodiac
what do you mean
tidal tinsel
the ones next to your money you use at loot boxes and you can choose overlock or vanity item
sorry blank matrix cores?
pure atlas
blank ones you use by infusing them after finishing machine events in normal missions
pure atlas
the blank ones you get every time after the first stage of every deep dive and the core hunt mission
the second ones you get are weapon overclocks then you get the cosmetics
tidal tinsel
oh jeez so 3 a week?
tidal tinsel
ahh ok cool thanks
wraith shard
What is the difficulty on deep dives?
obsidian gorge
3 - 3.5 -3.5 for regular
4.5 - 5 - 5.5 for elite
wraith shard
Okay. That tells me what to do :)
modern tundra
FFS .. edd solo .. I found two (!!!! Never happened before) lost supply pod .. as I dig it around I've heard a menace coming but just thought meh imma carry on .. than I've seen the red sparks around me .. bulk .. dead. I couldn't even get out of the hole before I was down again .. than last life I run .. cave leech + menace shooting FFS lol
dry grotto
I will never be good enough for EDD I think I am too old and slow for that amount of twitchyness
sry dude, sounds like one of my stories. rip.
vapid moat
I can't seem to join any deep dives, they all seem to be greyed out?
muted lance
did you promote?
vapid moat
if you start a deep dive can people join in progress?
dreamy niche
no
muted lance
no, i've tried that before
fringe kettle
you can't join in progress deep dives, but they're shown anyways.
only ones in the lobby
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honest bronze
ty mission control
placid nacelle
is there a way to change my faction? clicked on the wrong one like a dummy
honest tide
yes, in around three days you can pay 5,000 credits to pick the union you want\
uneven scaffold
How long does a deep dive typically take?
uneven scaffold
What’s the longest it’s taken you
dreamy niche
an hour and 3 min
uneven scaffold
Oh cool. Thanks!
That doesn’t seem that bad. I’ve had 45 min normal missions before
random lichen
Just finished my first deep dive. Thanks to the random scout that carried me. I owe you a beer!
jagged spruce
i think i lost half of my souls doing deep dive
plush wind
was there supposed to be 3~4 bulks on one map in map 2 of this weeks dd
wraith shard
I'm having trouble completing elite deep dives with friends. what do I need to do in order to improve?
dreamy niche
how often do you play on haz 5
wraith shard
I haven't tried haz 5 actually
dreamy niche
ah
play some haz 5
once you're comfortable with that you can do EDD
difficulty of the EDD is haz 4.5-5-5.5
wraith shard
oh aight, Thanks a lot man!
dreamy niche
🙂
rain ridge
I did elite deep dive twice, only got to stage 2 lul
shit's haaarrrd
maybe I should try again before the reset...
uncut raptor
lots of people are struggling with stage 2 it seems, i guess when i did it we got lucky
wraith shard
It seems like salvage missions are always the most difficult part for most players in EDD's.
uncut raptor
salvage and pe
wraith shard
In my experience this is usually because very few players prepare the area around the uplink and fuel cells.
wraith shard
I always prepare the uplink before the mules are repaired, because not all players have the patience to wait one minute.
lucid wadi
what is the difficulty level for normal dd? i was playing one when i got 2 bulk detonators and 2 oppressors in the same level
uncut raptor
3 - 3.5 - 3.5
i think
i've had hazard 3 missions that had way more bulks than a haz 5, it all depends on the mission and the director's choice of enemy
wraith shard
3 - 3,5 - 4 as far as I know. Hazard level 2-5 have the same spawn chance for detonators.
lucid wadi
oh ok thanks
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uncut raptor
here we go
granite lantern
give me any random engineer or scout build, how fucked up it is, it doesnt matter
i'll (try to) beat the edd solo with it
warning : Hipster is banned
uncut raptor
can't wait for the edd to take place in magma core and the rng makes the fissures happen constantly
salvage, elimination, pe in that order
:^)
granite lantern
elim is fine
uncut raptor
but the cave is stupid!! aaaaaa
junior fossil
PE+ black box and shield disrupt on magma would be funny
uncut raptor
fissure opens up right underneath the black box, causing it to drop down the crack
uncut raptor
lots of acid spitters too
oblique carbon
Toughest one
Needed bosco to revive once
I used pheromone which isn't as bad as people say
Cave Leeches weren't a problem
I use heightened senses
uncut raptor
i haven't used pheromones since the nerf since it's on par with the other 2 grenades now and i find them more useful than pheromones
oblique carbon
They all have different purposes.
IFG can slow down a small group or a single target but does no damage. It also lasts a while.
Cryo can quickly freeze a group of enemies but you have to damage them yourself.
Pheromone can stall a bunch of enemies and cause them to deal damage to each other.
As a scout, I need to preserve time and ammo.
Pheromone is the best for preserving ammo and gives you enough time.
In a group, IFG or Cryo is better as your teammates can utilise the slowdown/damage increase.
uncut raptor
cryo is amazing for taking down flying enemies, and that's mostly what i use cryo for tbh
uncut raptor
yeah that too, but when you're playing solo you should have bosco with ice rockets
oblique carbon
Scout is already great against mactera.
uncut raptor
so you don't have to waste your grenades on them
junior fossil
yup that is when solo, it is a bit of a different game
oblique carbon
And cryo for a brood is a waste and you can fail to pull it off if the ice thaws.
uncut raptor
that's why you destroy three of the eyes and then flash it with cryo and finish off the last eye
junior fossil
yup
uncut raptor
unless it's critical weakness
junior fossil
you throw it when it has like 10% health, then finish it with a fast burst of damage
in solo though, just have bosco kill off the spawns if he doesnt have an ice rocket
bosco is really good at killing swarmers
uncut raptor
yeah, but bosco loves to target larger enemies instead of the giant swarmer pile that's nibbling at your feet
junior fossil
usually I pick something with either fear or stun for the prets
so I could move back and call bosco to me
on scout the boomstick has innate stun, that is really useful for when you need some space
oblique carbon
I switched from fire to scare
you don't really notice the scare though so fire is probably better
junior fossil
personally I find myself a fan of the scare aswell
scare is mainly noticed if the pret is still after you after the stun
they are oddly easily scared
oblique carbon
You don't need to scare a pret though
junior fossil
only when it spits on your face and you want it to stop
oblique carbon
I double tap the weakpoint, melee, loop round and double tap again
the spit is the easiest thing to bait
junior fossil
yeah, but not when defending a blackbox and the like
oblique carbon
That's why you need to prioritise them
shoot them in the face then double tap when they're close
uncut raptor
usually i have fear on my special powder boomstick since it means i can turn the mobility into a utility option as well so i can create even more space
but i don't really play scout a whole lot in EDD, i usually play gunner way more
uncut raptor
i mean
junior fossil
I prefer to use driller just incase I need an escape
junior fossil
and yeah gunner can carry hard
uncut raptor
auto cannon with splintering shells is your friend
miss me with this carpet bomber nonsense
junior fossil
I agree with the love of splintering
sometimes you just wanna shot the bugs in the face
uncut raptor
like
im surprised we even did it with the team comp we had
driller with cryo helped us win 2nd stage, since it helped me kill bugs faster
anyways 3 minutes until DD/EDD let's get this bread
gonna do the DD solo again
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uncut raptor
let's gooooo
DD is in sandblasted
EDD is in dense biozone
first stage of DD has a huge cave
vital peak
We're playing Deep Dives: now in split screen!
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uncut raptor
first stage of DD was kinda scary
second stage was really easy
Deep Dive stages
got sub 35 minutes on first try
this one can easily be done sub 30
neat folio
if shield disruption was on dread or exploder infestation on black box it would be a fair step up in difficulty, me thinks
getting a bulk on black box monkas
knotty rampart
dreamy axle
does stage 1 of the normal deep dive always have shield disruption? or is that just the last 3 weeks
uncut raptor
it's been almost 5 weeks of first stage shield disruption
cosmic thicket
I just did a EDD fully, and only got one core, no xp, or gold.
uncut raptor
did you start your game before the deep dives reset?
since that's a common issue
you'll have to restart your game and redo them
ionic latch
Hey im new. Im just wondering what deep dives are all about
obsidian gorge
deep dives are 3 connected missions where you do 2 main objectives at each stage, with fixed hazard levels and cave generation each week
when completed once a week they give special rewards
uncut raptor
first stage gives you a blank matrix core, second stage gives you a random weapon overclock, third stage gives you a random cosmetic core
you can only get the rewards once per week
so if you fail on, say, stage 2 of a deep dive and tried it again
you wouldn't get the rewards for the first stage again, but you can still get the rewards for the second and third
obsidian gorge
to get access to deep dives you have to promote a dwarf, and to do that you must reach level 25 with a class, more information when you get to that point
mint wind
question: if i use an insta revive on stage 2 of a deep dive, do i get another for stage 3 or do i only get one between the 3 stages
obsidian gorge
it all resets
it is just like starting a new mission, only thing you keep is ammo and nitra / gold count , see ?
granite lantern
second stage was really easy
@uncut raptor i cant relate
im doing meme build challenge
lost to bulk because lowest dps stubby possible
junior fossil
the EDD 2nd stage was fun, it was easier than expected
steel kettle
Also keep health damage between stages but it'll revive and bring along anyone who doesn't make the extraction to add to Omega's point earlier
lusty flare
This weeks EDD
Stage 1 > Rich Atmo, dreadnaught morkite, A couple of Bulk Spawns that are probably avoidable.
Stage 2 > Shield Disruption, Morkite Blackbox, with a number of spitballers and some brood nexus, not the worst but its shield disruption, use HP resupplies if needed, More Bulk Spawns.
Stage 3 > Exploder Infestation, Egg Morkite, More Bulk detonator spawns, exploders on haz 5.5 are LETHAL and quick. Make sure you communicate wave spawns, and remember there are always more exploders than you think.
blazing current
Yeah I always solo DD
lusty flare
Lots of Bulk Detonator spawns this week
junior fossil
@lusty flare if you scroll up I posted a pic https://discordapp.com/channels/257785731072786435/626770676573011997/718083026491408415
lusty flare
@junior fossil The extra tid bits are important
junior fossil
bulk spawns are random though
junior fossil
did not have a bulk on the first one, only 1 on the 2nd...
on the last one yeah it is more likely because exploders
lusty flare
Thats a posibility, I had a total of four on my run,
1 Stage 1
2 stage 2
1 Stage 3
There was a week in fungus bog with a murder cave salvage mission on stage 2 that almost always had 1-2 bulk spawns
Some people had 3
Some only had 1
junior fossil
last week I had 1 run with bulks, and one run without any...
it is just that random to a point
lusty flare
Like I said, its somewhat random
But typically there is an average amount of bulks
Some people will escape that average for better or worse results
dull silo
I've noticed that on some deepdives you have to repair mules, but you don't get the up link and fuel cells events, whereas on other deepdives you get both. Is there anyway to know whether minimules are accompanied with the aforementioned events based on the obiectives as they're posted in this channel?
fringe kettle
Between missions if it's the larger of the two icons then it's the primary objective. You can expect the mission to behave almost exactly as if you were playing a normal mission like that. If it's the smaller icon then think of it as a compact primary.
Both are required, but the mission will act as if it's set to the larger icons mission type.
dull silo
Ah so for this week's edd and dd, we won't get fuel cells?
fringe kettle
correct
dull silo
Awesome thanks!
granite lantern
@deep nimbus yup i did it
this build actually kinda works ||no not really it doesnt||
its just horribly fucking slow
deep nimbus
Well done.
vagrant oak
Hyper propellant? Why D:
uncut raptor
meme build
fervent nexus
I used to use that one for elimination missions, until I tried out the spinning death on the Breech cutter.
young marten
EDD this week is pretty easy... >_> the last one was almost impossible playing solo...
obsidian gorge
lol, and I heard comments saying last EDD was really easy compared to previous ones
young marten
what XD
I don't know how these people usually play, but playing solo, at least for me, was impossible
The EDD this week seems like hazard 2 compared to the previous one
twin idol
There’s always someone who needs to pipe up saying it was the easiest thing they’ve ever done
As is the case with any co-op game like DRG
But yeah last weeks solo was very rough. This week - no so much
obsidian gorge
as long as I can do the first stage it is fine, had a bad start for the first stage of DD though
dull silo
I didnt struggle with last week, struggled with the one before that though
rng plays into it a decent amount i guess
young marten
Maybe I was unlucky, I don't know, but in the previous EDD spawned a Bulk Exploder, macteras, 2 menaces and a Opressor while I was in the Uplink fase
so...
obsidian gorge
for me it was getting pushed by shellbacks and getting surrounded by surprise
young marten
yes... and the first time I tried, the leechs, dude.... the fucking leechs.... >_>
twin idol
Exact same happened with me Baroona. Failed at that uplink 3 or 4 times, until one try the detonator just didn’t spawn for some reason
young marten
I tried twice, I have a problem with Crystalline caves, my fps goes from 90 to 10 when there's electric crystals around
and the bulk exploders, leechs and opressor didn't help at all
twin idol
Oh that’s another thing too lol. I only figured out after finally passing the uplink that you can destroy those electric crystals
uncut raptor
spinning death is a fantastic overclock for the BC when you pair it with stun
young marten
I know, but there was too many, and I didn't find much Nitra in the first stage
So I just gave up
but thankfully this week was easier
vapid monolith
Pew pew the electric crystals
young marten
I should have recorded this match... it was terrible. I was running away the bulk exploder while shooting the crystalls and my game just kept freezing every 2 seconds XD
uncut raptor
i learnt you can drill underneath the electric crystals to destroy them
young marten
oh, that's a good one, I didn't know
junior fossil
also a thing, you can use ammo to kill the electric crystals
fast inlet
mining pistol ruins them too
junior fossil
personally I usually shoot them on engis smg/gunners main
granite lantern
Hyper propellant? Why D:
@vagrant oak to be fair despite being a meme build
its actually ultra good sometimes
in this mission i entered a cave, almost one shot a spitballer from very far away, and then imediatelly two shotted a breeder
also its fast enough to negate proxy trigger
junior fossil
new meme time, hyper prop goes, whoosh!
also considering it was dreads, hyper prop can do some damage to them
uncut raptor
i already knew you could shoot them
obsidian gorge
so close to completing EDD, but had nitra / ammo issues at the start of the 3rd stage and lost my revives too fast
hot gazelle
Hyper propellant is a weird, weird OC.
I might actually run it on a solo engineer.
But I have no desire to play engineer solo, so 🤷♀️
mental valley
That's the "jump" one, right? It's as if a TF2 engineer and soldier were merged.
hot gazelle
No, hyper propellant is the single-target damage PGL mod
mental valley
ahh, gotcha
hot gazelle
The rocket jump one is something like "RJ250 compound"
waxen mist
info on this EDD?
obsidian gorge
you can find EDD / DD info by looking for images in this channel
waxen mist
thanks a lot!
uncut raptor
np
waxen mist
phew, no PE
obsidian gorge
np
hot gazelle
Ok, that DD actually looks tough
uncut raptor
it's not really
2nd stage is super short
first stage is one big cave, with a bet-c
granite lantern
this is by far one of the easiest edds
strongly recomend engi for second stage for platforms around black box
and bring some high dps for an uplink bulk
stage 2 is particulary bulk-y from my experience
or well, i guess a driller could toss some c4 and drill around and make the black box area far, far more comfortable but that will take some resources and maybe a swarm as its Mining Expedition
odd comet
I wouldn't go so far as to say easy....
The amount of swarmers and grunts it spawned on that stage 2 shield disruption was no joke
having 300 different things nibbling on you on a shield disruption really isn't easy.
deft adder
is anyone open for a deep dive. new to this group. not sure if this is where i can lfg
waxen mist
#lfg-steam @deft adder
formal dust
wraith shard
does doing deep dive solo scales difficulty down?
fringe kettle
yup
wraith shard
ohhh, thanks!
quiet wyvern
that EDD was nothing, nor the regular, both pretty easy
Good chance for Bulks on the second and 3rd stages of the EDD tho in case for those who haven't done it yet, beware
thorn heron
I'm about to get into my first Deep Dive, is it anything special/should I watch a guide
quiet wyvern
It's basically 3 missions, each with 2 primary objectives, guarentee's for warnings are medium to high imo. Regulars are Haz 3.5 to 4.5 and Elites are 4.5 to 5.5
@thorn heron
You can watch walkthroughs by Syncort or One Man Gaming if you want an idea on how Deep Dives roll
thorn heron
k ty
lament fable
honest bronze
EDD was ez for our 2 gunners, engi, and scout until we hit Stage 2 shield disruption in a big open room with a swarm of little guys
our amount of wave clear was not ideal lol. We scrapped by but my god we were so close to wiping so many times on Stage 2
quiet wyvern
I did it with my friend in a duo earlier as gunner and Engi, was pretty smooth
timber cypress
Did anyone solo edd with scout?
Cuz that shit is literally impossible for me at stage 2
quiet wyvern
ZHOS and CA are great when it comes to solo scout speedrunning
umbral dagger
Hi all, apologies if this is the wrong place for this question but I can't find anything on google
what is this?
oh i cna't upload a picture
dull yacht
@quiet wyvern What OC on zhos for solo scout?
light mica
LF partner or trio. 200 hours, builder mainly. have practiced quite a bit. great at bunkers and saving space. mic, 18+ aren't really negotiable. pm if i sound like i can fill a spot.
lost helm
very easy edd 🙂
lost helm
loool bob the builder
earnest raft
lost helm
meh most builds work tbh
latent hamlet
any build that works for haz5 works for edd
this is a builder website
should be up to date
bronze wadi
ebon jasper
just had an engi fill the black box defense with the mines
not outside the area, but directly where we had to stand
dull yacht
Guess he wanted to go out with a bang
wraith shard
I've been away from DRG for a while and got to try out the Autocannon recently.
It's uhh... is it just me or is it bad?
blazing current
It trades focused, continuous damage, to AOE, splash damage
It's alright for me, but most of the time I just go for the minigun
wraith shard
The splash damage seems too low to make it worthwhile though, especially when you can get much more consistent benefit against swarms with the Minigun's Blowthrough Rounds.
blazing current
That is true, then again I use neurotoxin to help with the swarms
wraith shard
Maybe I built it wrong and you really need to lean into expanded magazine and fire rate upgrades to get those fast kills?
wraith shard
I haven't even unlocked overclocks yet.
blazing current
Minigun is better for general use. I used autocannon occasionally, but that after I get and tried some overclocks
I guess you can go for full AOE or full damage with auto cannon
wraith shard
I'll have to look at the stats again, I think last time I checked it worked out having to hit 3-4 enemies per shot with the autocannon to make it match damage with the minigun.
wraith shard
On further inspection the gap isn't as wide after upgrades, the Autocannon actually surpasses what the Minigun can put out (without Blowthrough rounds) just by catching 2 enemies with each shot.
junior fossil
without OCs I would say 2 3 2 2 1/3 would be a good build to start with
3 3 2 2 1 on higher haz
quiet wyvern
@dull yacht I believe he uses 2-2-2-2-2 with Minimal clips on M1K and a dmg build with Jumbo shells on his boomstick
patent fossil
First try on Soloing the EDD, gosh almost lost it on the third stage those exploders do not let up
copper girder
if anyone want to try elite deep dive, i have a server ready
blazing current
Huh that EDD is way too easy
I must've rolled the perfect rng
only encountered 1 bulk in both DD and EDD
young marten
I encountered 4 bulks in normal DD XD
patent fossil
2 bulks in the EDD for me
obsidian gorge
last stage ?
blazing current
2nd
uncut raptor
you reckon a sub 15 minute speedrun could be done on the DD?
considering how small stage 2 is
nova verge
We ran into 3 bulk on stage 1 of DD.
uncut raptor
yikes
brisk oracle
@nova verge Elite or reg?
waxen mist
just finished the EDD
yeah, this one was also pretty easy
we've had a pretty long streak of easy EDDs, it's making me a bit suspicious
nova verge
Regular DD
paper silo
Yeah stage 1 of DD has a shockingly high bulk spawn rate for some reason
paired with BET-C it's just panic city for solo
narrow lodge
I got super lucky this week and only had to deal with one on my solo run.
But it was still a time
wraith shard
Could there be 2 aquarqs at the same spot
candid wyvern
Could there be two aquarqs that have the same "stem", meaning they have shared indicators?
fringe kettle
yes, there can be two aquarqs in essentially the same spot. You'll know because the blue glow will remain.
ebon jetty
how difficult are this weeks?
outer pasture
both are rather easy
bleak granite
I finished the DD with a brand new diver on the second try
get out your best bulk strategies for phase 2 of EDD since there's an uplink
blazing current
Both are easy, but the bulk spawn chance is higher than usual for some
humble slate
This weeks deep dive has no shields? Is this normally a thing?
obsidian gorge
you mean if over 50% of the deep dives had no shield warning during one of the stages ?
uncut raptor
^
obsidian gorge
if anyone took note on all deep dives created we can discover that
uncut raptor
gee if only someone had an archive of the last few deep dives
last week's DD
the DD before that
3 shield disruption in a row so far
since the one before that had cave leech cluster as the starting hazard warning
humble slate
So its common, but not every mission. Got it, thank you
I had my face melted within the first five minutes of a duo's game in this. Didn't know what to expect
light falcon
So... how is Scout solo to handle the Black Box in Stage 2?
light falcon
I'm always try on Zhuk when I try to use them
deft kite
should be easy nuff
light falcon
*always dry
deft kite
what's your primary ?
light falcon
Swapped to AR for this
light falcon
patch?
deft kite
and if you are running like weakpoint dmg on gk2 for solo it's bad because you usually rely on praet and stuff being aggroed on your allies
and you do big damage during that time
and yeah they will eventually buff the m1k for sure
right now it's in a bad spot
nobody wants to run focus because very low dmg for the time it takes to shoot and hip fire is very meh until they patch it's probably better to stick to gk2
light falcon
gotcha
deft kite
the build i posted for gk2 is much better suited for homebrew than bullets of mercy
bullets of mercy is great when you are in a team and you can focus stuff but when you solo having armor pen and homebrew makes dealing with slashers and guard a lot easier
i'll run it solo with scout and see if there is any tip i can give you
light falcon
Thanks
I was fine Read: Running like a bitch while Bosco shot things until the Black Box
deft kite
@light falcon you got it ?
i have a few tips but they ain't much
use the ressuply to drop the black box (see picture) https://ibb.co/KrWtW2c
during the second stage knowing where the escape is helps a lot as it's really small and hard to see
on the third stage 2 eggs will spawn waves 1 will spawn dread
on the third stage get the egg at the bottom of the pit last
if you struggle with mini or naedocyte bring thorn instead of veteran depositor (veteran does help on the second stage black box)
on the second stage once you complete the first big room take your time pushing to the last room because there is a lot of mini spawn and it will spawn a wave behind you once you start going in
proof of completion
https://ibb.co/9HGBKhW
gl m8
took my sweet ass time because pots of gold
civic pivot
soloed my first EDD 😄 my nerves are shot
that black box was rough, damn near wiped me
deft kite
i found getting to the black box was rougher than the actual box
civic pivot
Bosco was definitely doing some heavy lifting lol
deft kite
i think the black box is hard if you don't manage cryo well and you don't know what target are priority aka if you see that menace/praet/exploder shoot it first
menace are easy enough to dodge but exploder make you exit the zone so it takes more time and the praet cone attack makes it hard to stay in the zone too
civic pivot
I run flamethrower, just roasting everything up 😄
deft kite
but if you cryo that praet and vaporize it much easier
oh i was thinking while i was doing it with scout that driller or engi would have been much easier
civic pivot
yea, I just do driller
deft kite
gas grenade to control all the small shit coming at you
civic pivot
so much fun
deft kite
and flame to burn anything that remains
quiet wyvern
@deft kite I had no idea the M1K was that bad, I thought it was still good?
deft kite
it's very out of meta at the moment some number people could help you understand better why but atm it really doesn't run good in higher haz
deft kite
i remember the supercooling being good when it came hard but i think it was hit with multiple succesive nerf that made it bad
also hear a lot of people complaining about hipster taking like 4 to 5 mouth shot on regular glyphids
quiet wyvern
That's stupid
deft kite
while gk2 doesn't shine anywhere it just works
quiet wyvern
True
deft kite
it can be good if you build full dmg and bom but you need a decent team for that
like if you have a good team you are used to run with run full dmg with ifg bom
and watch stuff melt
otherwise the build i gave isn't stellar dmg wise but it works good always
quiet wyvern
I like running speed, capacity and armor shredding, along with stun chance increase, it works for a majority of the time, plus when times right it melts adult Shellbacks
deft kite
it does have very good wave clear though with cryo and fast reload+ pen zhuks
quiet wyvern
Ooh yea
deft kite
i find ammo to not be a problem on scout primary so i don't run extra ammo since more often than not i'm the one who decides how much nitra we have
also gk2 is better used for big stuff and special glyphids
that's why i use the armor break
quiet wyvern
Right, I wonder how they will buff M1K is it just overall dmg or an OC or 2 that need tuneing?
deft kite
i think m1k will get a buff soon enough i might be wrong though
i doubt most oc will get reworked soon though
deft kite
the brt with burst delay is nuts
quiet wyvern
That Dmg!
deft kite
yeah it slaps
quiet wyvern
How bout the Thunderhead, how would you build it?
deft kite
gimme a sec
deft kite
13211 for carpet bomber
23111 for big bertha 3 can also work on first slot for bertha
quiet wyvern
Interesting
vagrant oak
Bertha isn't % damage
so its not worth much to take the +3 t1 damage
or wait, oops
misread that 😛
deft kite
23111 is a bit rough ammo wise tho so if you ain't used to it takes some time to get used to it
vagrant oak
honestly max ammo is almost always what I use
its just to good to get rid of most of the time
deft kite
thing is 55 bullet on bertha means you are always reloading
quiet wyvern
I have 33211 with composite drums or 33222/33221 with carpet bomber
vagrant oak
You should always be using ready for anything on AC anyway
deft kite
i am but i end up relying too much on sidearm
because 55 is very small
especially for haz 5 wave
and you can't always be popping shield for every reload
quiet wyvern
True
deft kite
i guess the way to do it if you run 55 is to go 1 clip born ready reload
then shield reload
rinse and repeat
light falcon
@deft kite I did not, I was working until about an hour ago, so about to go in again
deft kite
good luck !
vagrant oak
I mean, really, in the end haz5 is not hard enough to justify minor complaints in effiency of mods anyway. +mag is, effectively, giving you +55 ammo anyway to start with.
Hence why it still works
deft kite
yeah but i've been thinking of switching anyway
vagrant oak
I can't say I would use composite AND +ammo
seems like overkill
+mag would give +110 ammo anyway and knock two birds down with composite
now obviously the best OC is combat mobility
deft kite
i think if they cut the ammo capacity to 75 bertha would be as good as carpet bomber and splintering
quiet wyvern
The build I use is just part of my playstyle, and it works
vagrant oak
In the end Bertha just kinda screams to me like "if you wanted ST damage, just go minigun"
I want to really love it
but I always feel kinda 😦
deft kite
try the way i built it , it feels good until you have no ammo
vagrant oak
same applies, basically, to bullet hell in reverse.
deft kite
lol
vagrant oak
if you want aoe minigun, just go AC
deft kite
man i wish bullet hell was good
vagrant oak
Its, certainly, workable
quiet wyvern
Hmm I might try it, If i remember to
vagrant oak
It would make more sense if it did more direct damage and richochet bullets did less damage
deft kite
thing with bullet hell is why build bullet hell when i can just build with clean oc and get better everything overall
deft kite
bullet hell at haz 3 must be fun though
vagrant oak
also not even really sure how it interacts with blowthrough mod
deft kite
i tried it the other day with fire bullets
vagrant oak
For awhile I was trying hot bullets bullet hell. But I was noticing that the bouncing bullets don't apply heat 😦
deft kite
absolutely horrendous
vagrant oak
or way less heat
and fire upgrades, generally, suck in team games. anything in contact is on fire anyway from your driller already 😐
light falcon
It would be really nice if these dwarves could ever go to a damn gym
I swear they run like they have a limp
I give up on the scout
100% don't have the combat ability to deal with this shit
austere plank
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light falcon
shrug I dont see it
When I have dozens upon dozens of Grunts coming at me I have no idea how to deal with them
deft kite
toss a cryo and use zhuks
bright dagger
use mk1 with the damage booster
if you're pressed toss a cryo and its at least 8 free kills with the mk1 alone if you're quick
willy pete shotty can also cause temperature shock for beefier things
also you don't have to slaughter a ton of glyphids, in a team if they're chasing you that's pressure off your team
waste their time and the team has to take on less at once
full robin
is there a way to report a player for griefing in a deep dive? I see a mute option, but that's it.
obsidian gorge
based on what I hear you can only block them on steam or something, but like, nothing in game or to report
full robin
ah, and using the n-word as well. lovely.
suppose I'll just afk in the dive for a bit.
light falcon
Driller got me past Stage 2
light falcon
Sorry for all the salt, I'm going to head out
frank shard
do you only get the rewards for doing deep dives once per week/reset?
fringe kettle
correct
so once you've complete the dd and edd for this week you won't get any more cores for completing them again. You'll still get xp and credits though.
light falcon
Is it always Stage 1 = Blank, Stage 2 = OC, and Stage 3 Cometic?
light falcon
At least i got all the combat related rewards then
At there Cosmetics that only come from Dives?
fringe kettle
not exclusively to the dives. There's cosmetics exclusive to cosmetic cores and the dives are a way to get those, but not the only way. Machine events and your weekly core hunt can get you those cosmetics as well.
gray wigeon
Anyone down to help me get my first dive?
wraith shard
You up for an EDD?
Also did you just promote recently?
Oh wait, you can't do EDDs yet can you?
wraith shard
Awesome
sullen turtle
Are minerals we carry deposited at the end?
dreamy niche
primary, secondary objectives, and mineral chunks such as compressed gold and jadiz aren't deposited. everything else is
sullen turtle
ty
static hound
@full robin nope, but I think there's a good case for a "avoid player" list
lunar radish
Maybe a weird question here, but what are deep dives? Im new to the game
full light
Getting Matrix cores. Blank one for machine events, a random overclock for a random weapon and a random cosmetic for a random dwarf
lunar radish
What are matrix cores for?
full light
i figured it to be like the late game reward.
For stronger weapons, maybe cool cosmetics (dont played that much too, dont know everything thats coming (: )
lunar radish
Thanks alot!
teal flume
In EDD stage 3 that hardly connecting nest can be destroyed on all 3 anker points to reveal the egg without triggering a wave
obsidian gorge
@lunar radish it is a 3 stages long mission, each stage you have to complete 2 main objectives (such as morkite + eggs) , every time you complete a stage the first time (per week) you get a special reward, and the map is always the same for everyone, the difficulty is fixed too, being haz 3 - 3.5 - 3.5 for regular dives, and 4.5 - 5 - 5.5 for Elite, you access them after you promote a dwarf, which you will get by playing and reaching level 25, no rush.
lunar radish
Sounds awesome
half nova
does collecting extra morkite during mission help?
obsidian gorge
more exp, but you probably want to finish deep dives as fast as possible
half nova
oki thx
dreamy niche
during a deep dive minerals dont grant any xp
on regular missions, extra morkite gives you 1 xp each
half nova
Should I switch my union chapter to get them all to gold rank?
obsidian gorge
ya clicked the wrong channel , and I don't think you can do that (change unions while the event is happening)
light wren
Hi guys im still quite new to the game and im thinking of doing my first deep dive do any of you have any tips?
fringe kettle
time is your largest enemy. Don't waste it mining gold. Move quickly and only complete the bare minimum of the objectives.
if you only need 250 morkite, don't go out of your way to mine more once that quota has been achieved.
light wren
alright is it just like a normal mission or is it different?
obsidian gorge
different, you get 2 main goals
so 3 stages, each with 2 goals, like morkite + eggs
fringe kettle
3 missions in sequence with 2 primary objectives each
resources, hp, and ammo carry over between each one.
obsidian gorge
hazard is 3 - 3.5 - 3.5 for regular , 4.5 - 5 - 5.5 for Elite, mind that
light wren
ah ok i just unlocked haz 5 so ive kinda got the hang of doing high hazard missions
thanks for the help anyways
velvet lion
once i've run a deep dive, will running it again grant similar rewards?
sorry if this is a common question
dreamy niche
you'll only get the cores once per reset but can still get credits and xp
velvet lion
ty
fathom kelp
Keep in mind that none of the other minerals spawn on a Deep Dive
Not unless you, say, end up killing a Huuli Hoarder or something 😛
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stoic needle
anyone want to deep dive?
uneven shuttle
yes
latent hamlet
is that the EDD or the DD? @uncut raptor
latent hamlet
naw thats okay
uncut raptor
Alright
light wren
Anyone else having trouble with elite deep dive? like that shield disruptor is sooo annoying
stoic needle
anyone doing speed DD
dull silo
Shield disruption can be really harsh, but I felt like the map that had it was fairly easy. If you're struggling on that map specifically spec into health for your armor and allocate more nitra for resupplies on that map I guess
obsidian gorge
is it the second stage with the black box + morkite ?
modest sapphire
The EDD from this week is completely designed to fuck you over. Not as bad as others , but just stupid. That we have a mactera problem with a ridicule amount off small spiders mixed in without the modifier telling us so. hehe thanks devs!
obsidian gorge
did ya get a mactera swarm while being near a glyphid tunnel
lofty wing
yeah that just sounds like bad luck
my EDD run got fucked over with a detonator and cave leeches during part 3
I think it was eggs, but we basically got swarmed in some of the more distinct parts of the cave
swarmers ripped into us like hell
blissful hull
what is a deep dive and when do i unlock them
ornate storm
get your first promotion (any character to level 25)
And then it's three missions all at once basically
blissful hull
are they difficult
ornate storm
Reasonably, but they scale with player count so they are soloable
it's more that they are long. to complete one in less than 45 minutes is an achievement
blissful hull
also lets say i get gunner to level 25, do i have to raise the other classes to 25 if i want to play them in deep dives
ornate storm
yes
You need all the gear unlocked for that class to play it in deep dives
they are punishing, and rewards you with Cores, which grant modifiers to your gear to improve it beyond the perk trees
there is an elite deep dive which is roughly hazard 4-5, and the regulars are hazard 3-4 or so
obsidian gorge
you just have to promote once with any class , (game tricked me ya have to promote )
so you can play with your level 1 unpromoted driller if you already have a promoted scout for example, nah, you can't got baited
vast valve
i used to do solo deep dives/EDDs as scout but after trying solo driller i've found that way more manageable
driller's extreme CC is almost vital to certain EDD setups when doing solo
and his drills provide plenty of mobility
and hollow point/volatile rounds subata against burning enemies gives him an excellent tool for taking down strong bois
jagged spruce
is Elite Deep Dive give a lot of EXP ?
small pecan
20 250xp
bleak granite
so about as much as one haz 4 mission with xp boost
jagged spruce
thats a lot of exp
small pecan
not really since most of the time people do it between 30 min to 1h+
light wren
anyone wanna carry me through elite deep dive lol
sharp adder
may not be feasible
maps get harder the more players you have in them. under-level players aren't simply dead weight, their presence in the lobby means more enemies with higher heath and damage. which is a problem here because Elite Deep Dives go up to Hazard 5.5 as it's the current end game area.
that's not to say that you won't last or won't be able to do it, but it can depend on how many people you're playing with and how much carrying is required.
plush wind
lol just did an edd and a modded engy joined
unlimited pgl sounds great but also means lots of friendly fire and he kept on going down and left after a map lol
in the end just me and the host was left and we still made through the rest of the map by ourselves
dull silo
Do deepdives actually scale down if someone leaves middive, or do they stay scaled to the original player amount?
plush wind
seems like it did
sage sigil
Just finished the EDD. I thought this one.. especially stage 3, was a lot more fun than many recent ones.
sage sigil
They definitely do scale down if someone leaves.
swift jay
question uh, is the DD difficulty fixed? like it is always 3.5?
tawdry crater
new to deep dives: The matrix cores you get from them are weekly-only?
frail zodiac
those are seperate cores that you forge in the forge
blanks you fill via machine events
tawdry crater
I'm asking if there's only rewards for DD once per week
like doing more than one is pointless save for chaos/fun/speedrun
and xp/gold
frail zodiac
yeah exactly like that
minor depot
hey ya'll, any good resources on builds? I'm super new and finding it hard to find up to date info on what builds are good or not
dreamy niche
think most build guides are out of date, your best bet would be to ask around in #drg-chat
plenty willing to share what builds work for them
sick finch
@minor depot i know this might sound dumb, but I would suggest playing the game, everyone has different preferences in what they like to use
More ammo? More damage? Something a little more specific?
dull silo
There's a chain of reddit threads about how to spec weapons that's updated for 1.0 but because it's community written it can be hard to figure out what's actually good and what's someones idea of good. Besides that there's very little up to date resources in guide form. There's some streamers that talk about builds that are pretty on the money
sick finch
It's up to you what you like to run with, you just gotta, get a feel for what the different stuff does
minor depot
@sick finch been trying to play as much as I can. Been having a bit of trouble going from level 2 to level 3 missions. I always feel like I get insta 1-shotted as engineer, running out of ammo, etc
maybe I am just playing the class wrong
dull silo
Real 1 shots are pretty rare, even in haz 5. You can definitely die in moments, but thats generally about getting swarmed and dying by a thousand cuts. The solution is usually about positioning
halcyon cargo
The secret to playing engineer is not being scared of shooting your grenade launcher right in front of you
dull silo
I thought the secret to playing engineer was equipping breach cutter
fringe kettle
Both are good. You’ll just end up using the BC more often since it works best when enemies are on the same plane as you.
fathom kelp
Especially on haz 4+ and EDDs, you take less damage hitting yourself with the PGL than you would getting eaten by bugs. Other than that, BC was OP on release, nerfed into 🍞 cutter levels, then buffed back up to being strong.
Triple-line on that last tier is great, yo.
dull silo
I don't play much engi, but im usually happy to see breach cause it seems to solve issues that are hard to solve for other classes. PGL is strong, but it does what most classes already do
bright dagger
it's satisfying to blow up a ton of glyphids with the PGL but yeah a gunner or the driller could handle it as well
iron cliff
I mean minigun is better for like dreadnaughts
You could run it for single target dmg on a salvage if your driller doesnt use cryo
Wouldnt be as good but def usuable
dull silo
theres a handful of builds for minigun that do really well in EDD or haz 5. https://old.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/fxb0j6/minigun_builds_for_greenbeards_and_greybeards/ does a bunch of math, my take away is that leadstorm is really good but requires variable chamber pressure. Exhaust vectoring is viable and better if you want a different t4 mod. Better players than I say burning hell is viable, but i havent been impressed by it
deft kite
lead storm is pretty much out of meta
taking the stun away from it made it go from very braindead to use to somewhat challenging
and the guide itself does a bunch of thing wrong
wraith shard
The guide does need to be updated as of late.
Not a massive overhaul but enough details are becoming different.
Was talking about the wiki btw
Brain just crapped out on me.
deft kite
if you run lead storm is because you decided to sacrifice mobility for maximum dmg output so 2 on first slot is a lot more logical
you don't need extra ammo on second tier since the ammo patch forever ago and remember you sacrificed your mobility for dmg so max dmg
so basic glyphids take 20% reduced dmg guard slasher take 50% less and if you hit praet armor you do 0 dmg to the praet. you sacrificed all your mobility so lining up stuff is a bit harder and if you ever noticed bug can crawl on wall. tldr: run armor break
1 or 2 on tier 4 work but i suggest 1 because more dmg on a full dmg build is better especially since you run the faster gyro stabilization on your first perk
cold as the grave because infinite shooting > everything else on that tier
lofty wing
of course, there's always big bertha
deft kite
yeah ac in general is a lot more meta atm then minigun
i pretty much only use minigun for elimination and even then big bertha does the job very well
dull silo
I'd love to run big Bertha, but i don't have it :(
granite temple
you guys use smg or shotgun on engie for EDD?
dreamy niche
smg but i assume you're asking about which is "better"?
vast valve
ever since the smg buff made it actually possible to control its recoil its probably just as good as the shotgun now
dreamy niche
unfortunately there's no one straight answer for that
granite temple
I've been using the shotgun, but I recently swapped to the smg since I picked up em refire
dreamy niche
comes down to preference and how well you can personally use the weapon
granite temple
using 32111 with em on smg and it feels pretty nice
vast valve
one could probably crunch the numbers and come up with a calculation on what weapon is the most effecient
dreamy niche
yes theoretically
vast valve
but that's like, inplying you land every single shot
dreamy niche
but in practice it never tends to work out that way
granite temple
shotgun is more efficient in terms of ammo
but a lot of the time it's overkill against plain grunts
fringe kettle
just try them both and use the one you like more
dreamy niche
^^
granite temple
trying out smg for the first time in EDD
it's not too bad
feels more consistent, if not as hard hitting
deft kite
@granite temple they are both fairly good
storm bison
@vast valve In doubt invoke the wiki bois they will be able to come up with a number
uncut raptor
MPA Warthog / SD BC gang
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weak meadow
When’s the discount?
willow tulip
Well there's the steam summer sale June 25th to July 9th, if DRG goes on sale soon it'll be then
twilit gull
is it normal that every single deep dive in the world is greyed out?
obsidian gorge
if they already started iirc
magic quiver
@twilit gull Yeah if it's started that's what happens. Usually best to just start an EDD and wait a few mins in your lobby. It'll fill up pretty quick.
fresh shell
Finally got around to this week's EDD. Seemed very easy to me. A bit harder than last week but still.
ancient cove
EDD what the hell am I supposed to do in that room with Betc?
A detonator or some random stuff keeps spawning and practically insta ending the no shield mission
obsidian gorge
are you sure you are talking about EDD ? only bet-c I remember is the one that appears on DD stage 1, and you probably should find a safe spot to face her
raw cliff
balmy ore
The engeneer on my teamjust melted it in 2 seconds with the line gun
is the position of the tumors the same for everyone? becouse he was able todo it becouse they where on oposite sides of bet
so they lined up well
uncut orbit
Rock and stone, brothers. Anyone can tell me about new solo EDD gunner builds (don't play after February and was able to return in recent patch)? Of course, i try my old build with minigun lead storm and toxic bulldog with magic bullets. Still works.
covert stag
Scout or gunner/engineer or driller group herein
2/4
We keep failing the 2nd/shield disruption on edd
Is there someone Who could Help us out or wanna join?:)
ancient cove
I keep having the same problem, that Bet-C room mess you up too?
Whats this bulldog magic bullets build people keep t alking about
ancient cove
Makes way more sense to have that AOE with my leadstorm
I got pure damage for praetorians with my autocannon
I dont know why I overlooked that, that would definitely help with small mobs
junior fossil
personally I would take extra ammo over damage with the magic bullets+ explosive
ancient cove
Ammo vs damage I find up to playstyle
junior fossil
mainly because of how you get so little out of damage when you have the explosive rounds
it halves it at the end, so the 2 + 15 becomes a +15 in total :3
junior fossil
yeah I just do 2 3 2 1 2 with magic bullets
the explosive toxic is good enough as is
it can also take down grunts fairly well
uncut orbit
with damage you can (if toxin works) kill acidspitter with one shot
junior fossil
the toxin +explosive should be enough iirc
uncut orbit
Ok, trying with more ammo. Thanks.
junior fossil
explosive does 30, they have 144, toxin does slightly over 100
winged dawn
So, can scout solo basic deep dive just after promoting? I just promoted for the first time and wanted to test myself
obsidian gorge
not too sure what the question is about, but you can probably try it out, not sure why it would be impossible
winged dawn
Well, I guess I should elaborate
If I'm new-ish (no overclocks or late game stuff), how hard is it to do solo?
obsidian gorge
I didn't have any overclocks
winged dawn
Oh, so whats different about it from the normal stuff
obsidian gorge
it is a 3 stages long mission, each stage you have to complete 2 main objectives (such as morkite + eggs) , every time you complete a stage the first time (per week) you get a special reward, and the map is always the same for everyone, the difficulty is fixed too, being haz 3 - 3.5 - 3.5 for regular dives, and 4.5 - 5 - 5.5 for Elite
winged dawn
Ah, I see. So no secondary objective at all? And do lost helmets and crates spawn still?
obsidian gorge
none at all
see, would be pretty easy to farm like that considering the map is fixed
winged dawn
Yeah
Thanks mate, I'm still a greenbeard compared to some of the dudes around here
Glad to know this group is cool :D
covert current
Basically, if you can Solo haz4 missions, you can solo the basic deep dive. But you could just join a group of randoms in the game or hop on the lfg channel
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granite lantern
Shut up
blazing current
Mission control, you should ping everyone for messages 
mortal heart
what's up guys, so i had this idea recently to start making weekly Elite deep dive videos to help out green beards who are having a hard time with getting through them all the way. are we allowed to post videos in these channels or is there a specific channel for that?
quiet wyvern
There is the drg videos channel in this server but you'd have to be some sort of content creator to do so, and tell the dev's that you want to post "said" videos
I think
mortal heart
gotya
fringe kettle
if you've got any videos yourself you can throw them in #drg-gallery.
If you meet the requirements for a content creator in #welcome-and-rules then PM a mod
quiet wyvern
What he said
mortal heart
sweet thanks 😄
normal hull
is the bunker system pretty mandatory for elite deep dives, or can you do without them with smart play?
I mean, obviously the bunker system makes quite a few things a lot easier, but
next pebble
Bunkering is for leaf lovers, you don't need to do it at all
normal hull
huh, neat
I played my first elite deep dive, had a bunch of failures until I played with a driller that bunker spammed. He ended up carrying us but idk...hardcore driller feels oddly unfulfilling at times
you don't really interact with the cool environments, you just kinda dig holes in or through em
that's more just a personal preference though. Heck, I can't really complain about methods after being carried into multiple overclocks
this is my first experience with haz 5 content anyway, makes sense I'd get a little rocked
dull silo
Bunkering all the time feels like a crutch. They stop you from developing a full skillset and eventually you'll run into a situation where they backfire and you're forced to bail. Having bunkers as an option is great, leaning on them all the time isnt
junior fossil
esp as scout, scout in a bunker is extra limited
novel token
new player here, what is bunkering? The driller digging out a hole, where the squad stays in during a wave with one way in/out?
uncut raptor
Basically
Driller can make an escape route if it gets too crazy at the entrance
Usually you would bunker on salvage missions
uncut orbit
Maybe bunker on salvage is works, but what about detonators? I see many fails, when big guy coming
uncut raptor
If you bunker correctly, nothing should spawn during the uplink/fuel cells
But yeah bulk spawns destroy bunkers
Always have an escape route when you bunker
stoic needle
whats diff between DD and EDD
uncut orbit
Do bunker only one time on salvage and game spawn three detonators. After this, i'm defend without bunkers :D
DD - hazard 3.5->4.0->4.5 (or 4.0) EDD - 4.5->5.0->5.5
willow salmon
uncut orbit
it never reaches haz 4```
Official information?
outer dome
Not sure if I count as official, but I can confirm that Max Painis is right for DD haz level.
oblique osprey
To be fair bunkering is WAY more dangerous with Oppressors
They spawn a lot more commonly than Bulks, and even a slight breach of the bunker can overwhelm everyone
Also obviously they totally ruin your firing line
I guess you can soft counter them with cryo cannon though
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junior fossil
first stage looks like lacking abit in nitra
chilly harness
just completed my first EDD and i did it solo
does the number of dwarf increase swarm and blackbox swarm ?
junior fossil
number of bugs
junior fossil
2nd stage was fairly easy, lots of nitra
shield disruption salvages looks like fun...
uncut raptor
let us know that goes
storm bison
That's a third stage bunker if i ever saw one
junior fossil
well, it starts with, beware the fall
then there are some spitballers, and some acid spitters, and some rollers
blazing current
Salvage shield disruption
whyyy
Oh well atleast it's stage 3
Can get my weapon OC
junior fossil
it was fairly normal for the 3rd stage, lots of shock jellies, acid spitters and rollers
no bulk for me atleast
junior fossil
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565850434376302613/720627158816653377/unknown.png deep dive stages
wintry kiln
@uncut orbit deep dive haz levels are on the wiki, not sure what their source is
uncut orbit
no, wiki show only stats for 3.5, 4.5 and 5.5 difficults, not specified how it works in dd and edd
twin idol
EDD done
3rd stage surprisingly easy
There’s a BET-C
And the uplink location is very forgiving
wraith shard
Neither of those look too bad @ DDs
That shield disruption though, oof
@twin idol sweet
fallow shadow
stage 3 of DD has a cave leech inside of organic matter
gives succ, but he doesn't harm you
wraith shard
anyone want to help a noob
im like super new
@wraith shard #lfg-steam
ohhh duh sry
Most people there are pretty chill about level.
uncut raptor
DD was pretty easy this week
wasted some time finding that last bit of morkite on stage 2, but it was worth it
thorny geyser
come on, i want PE for EDD stage 3
thorny geyser
remember that one stage 3 PE few weeks back with ghost bulk?
i can honestly say that it was the most painful experience ive had with edd
junior fossil
na, we need EDD stage 3 PE+ dread with ghost again
I loved that thing, it was so funny killing the dread with the ghost stumps
thorny geyser
yeah it works with organized team
and isnt too hard
but try it with clueless greenbeards 
uncut raptor
deep dives should be able to have 2 hazard warnings instead of 1 hazard warning and 1 mutation
imagine the chaos
warped jay
How about lethal enemies and mactera plague
wintry kiln
stage 3 was a pain
obsidian gorge
finding those last 2 units of morkite on Stage 2 was complicated, even more with the point extraction wave thing
quiet wyvern
did the EDD with One Man, it's not so bad
livid vale
How stingy should you be with nitra in a solo EDD
quiet wyvern
depends on your playstyle
livid vale
I try to not use any caps during the first mission but sometimes it backfires
quiet wyvern
i see
livid vale
Once per mission maybe idk
quiet wyvern
which character do you use in solo EDD's?
quiet wyvern
hmm, interesting, yea his firepower is good, but not always the best for solo, the others can have a fair chance if you play your cards right
livid vale
I started the game recently and he was the only one I was able to complete last week's EDD with
quiet wyvern
well then
livid vale
But I always have a problem with knowing when to use nitra or not
quiet wyvern
yea, that can be different from player to player
blazing current
My rule of thumb is once per stage
You have 4 resupplies per pod, more than enough for one stage
Unless it's salvage or PE
quiet wyvern
that does make alot of sense
blazing current
Really depends on the mission
For morkite I just put it in the center of whole cave corridor, right before digging a dirt
livid vale
Thanks for the advice
wintry kiln
usually by the end of the third stage you'll have a lot of excess nitra
livid vale
True true, I guess I shouldn't be too afraid to use everything I got
dull silo
I feel like solo dives are probably the most forgiving when it comes to resupplies, you can stand to be a little inefficient while you learn when its most optimal to call supplies
worst case scenario, you mine a little extra nitra
livid vale
That stage three is kicking mah ass
dull silo
Ye salvage with shield disruption is rough, especially on last stage
spring pond
question not for this specific deep dive but for deep dives in general
if my game says "connection lost" and I try to rejoin the deep dive "late" after the connection is re-established and it says I cannot join the deep dive late
why does drg not recognize that I am the same player who was in it like...20 seconds ago
obsidian gorge
might try doing that again to test, just be sure you joining the same one
spring pond
maybe there is a good reason for this but I am very salty
I got a direct invite by the host
tried like 4 or 5 times
molten rune
our engi dropped and rejoined a minute later
livid vale
How did you guys solo EDD stage 3
deft kite
@livid vale engi is most likely your best bet since he allows you to focus enemies in one direction with repel plat
and proxi mine
dull silo
I just went scout and had like 3 resupplies up around the uplink so I could heal through the time limit
Iron will smoothed out the one time I went down
ebon jetty
whats the edd like?
livid vale
Stage 3 is a shieldless salvage
livid vale
Well for me I've died a good 5 times trying to complete it
ebon jetty
so ill have so much fun then
livid vale
A lot of acid spitters and glyphid menaces