#deep-dive-discussion
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alright cool
Honestly a pretty easy dive.
wait the regular DD first area was meant to have Cave Leech clusters?
i only encountered a single one lmao
there were 2
Anyone wanna do the EDD?
i do
This weeks is fairly easy. Some tricky terrain on stage 2. Some sticky terrain on stage 3. A metric shit load of swarmers on stage 2. Didn't even really notice shield disrupt.
@humble shadow
random pub I had did it with 3 people having 0 downs
4th guy was a lvl12 who probably started playing yesterday, and we sorta just dragged him along for the ride
5.5 lethal enemies
heheheehehehe
at least it's a mining expedition so it ain't too bad
Hello all. First off, what an awesome game!! Playing the first tutorial and after defeating the ant like creatures, I can't seem to find the remaining Morkite to mine.
Keep looking for dirt blocking tunnels. There's always more than enough morkite.
@fringe kettle thank you
maybe its just going to wait to have 3 PE's in a row
have you ever been so broke you started mining the gold in the deep dives
because i have
whats this weeks (standard) deep dive missions?
elimination and black box, point extraction and elimination, morkite mining and black box
@slender hamlet
aight, thanks
first stage is cave leech cluster, third stage is mactera infestation
holy shit this deep dive
second EDD stage
giant cave full of spitballers, nexuses, and macteras
I didn't want to play engie, but I'm happy I had to lol
breach cutter is pretty damn OP.
just carry around 24 shells of which each are capable of killing an entire wave of non-armored grunts
Hello all, is there a save feature if I need to leave a mission mid way? TY
no
Thx
tough EDD today
you can rejoin if you get disconnected by accident but no way to save the entire mission
and if you're the host and you crash I'm pretty sure it just ends
getting a core out of the EDD is fine by me, not touching it again after looking at the main cave of stage 2 lmfao
I should go for Edd again
Alas too many goodies with the asignement now
Need muh pickaxes
stage 2 of the EDD this week is pure hell
stage 1, easy.
kay
stage 2, horrible
hmm
stage 3, idk
xd
right at the start? D:
This week's EDD:
Stage 1: complete cakewalk that lulls you into false sense of security
Stage 2: Giant hell cave of nexuses, mactera and big mini-swarms of grunts, dreadnought fight in pretty bad terrain and probably two bulks during salvage defense
Stage 3: Lethal enemies but its really easy, good terrain, few swarms
Have fun with that one in the middle
Just bring your stomping pants and anti-mactera sets and you should be fine tho.
Be careful when breaching the big cave and check the terrain before you plunge.
Waiting for the person who's gonna be like EDD this week is too easy again
EDD this week is like your wife stroking your cheek, slapping it REAL HARD then stroking it again and say it doesn't hurt that bad
Had a dreadnought attack while we were fighting the cocoon dreadnought lol
So there were 2 of em at once
Very nearly died there
yo dawg i heard you liked dreads with your dreads
so we made two dreads wearing dreads
But thanks to the heroic actions of a level 19 scout that probably started playing yesterday we survived
bless all the plucky greenbeards
Karl takes care of Greenbeards and fools
I just did it with my new big bertha loadout, feels BUM BUM BUM man
EDD is ez; just put the good players on engi and gunner
im saving you disappointment
I Just beat it. It's not impossible at all.
You know that the logic behind saying that is trying to convince themselves that if they can't beat it, nobody can, right?
EDD has two thicc mushrooms
Almost forgot about those. The one on stage 2 ate a dread fireball.
The EDD is very possible, just need a functional team and you good
2nd mission is slightly stressful
other than that we were fine
we cycled through assignments to get the red rock drink so i guess that made it easier
EDD 1-2 is okay
other than the double bulk it dropped on us after the fuel cells, that was bullshit
EDD 3 has a trap at the beginning, a long narrow tunnel that's half sticky ground
can't fight in it at all, it's impossible without bunkering or c4ing the sticky patches
all right the EDD was fairly straight forward this week, just watch the bulks in mission 2, but thats pretty normal
it sounds like the double bulk is a common thing in this weeks EDD
Anyone else get a dreadnought spawn on stage 3 of the EDD? Or am I just "lucky"
if scout has most kills, the rest of the team is either afk
or doing something terribly wrong
mhm
scout was just too good
How to salvage M.U.L.E.S.
mine the legs that are scattered about and use them on the broken mules
then hold E to repair them
Tried doing stage two of the EDD and had an engie who got downed legit like 5 times just getting the mules repaired
Then we died during uplink ;-;
Hey guys, I'm stuck with the Dreadnoughts mission where I should kill two of them. I literally combed the whole map and I can't find the last cocoon to spawn dreadnought. Any thoughts? I don't want to restart the mission ((
I played the EDD with a lvl 200+ and a lvl 350+ and man they both sucked, we failed at the VERY end of 2nd mission, I'm not exactly heavily experienced, lvl 45... But I carried them with 0 downs not including my last down as I was last alive... we had bulk + double Oppressor during uplink... which is a recipe for disaster!
@lunar plinth hold tab and check the map
@viscid narwhal I did, but what should I look for? The whole map is revealed and no other marks except for my robot and mule.
@lunar plinth dreadnought eggs appear as big pink eggs on the map, and they give off a distinct heartbeat like sound when you're near one
@uncut raptor Really? I will check this next time, didn't check it with the first egg. In the end I had to abort the mission and start it again with no issues at all. Thanks for the info!
@wraith shard Thanks, so this is not a unique bug
4.5 mc plaque
5 no shields
5.5 lethal enemies
I think i will pass edd this week
stage 2 is fun
I managed to pull through a bunch of randos by virtue of BREACH CUTTER BREACH CUTTER BREACH CUTTER
past 2, three is a breeze
only two eggs and barely any wave spawns
a
third stage is ez peasy
stage 2 also is a nice sight to see, explosive flower mountain up to the big cocoon
clerical error, it's back
cleric has been enjoying too much wine
I think we should pin the information about the deep dives' current levels in this channel.
Wouldn't hurt to pin one thing every day, and in exchange we no longer have to scroll up or ask about them again
They're easily available through the search bar or reddit. https://i.imgur.com/dwUa2IT.png
thats a nice idea stret, but seeing as nobody checks pins anywhere i dont think it would matter
better to just keep a screen on you and be everyones personal google
maybe add a command that lists the week's EDD/DDs
so regulars here can just do !dd
or something
and a bot spits out the info
@harsh steppe when add donate ? (no dlc) 

supporter used to just be a donate
Just paste this to search bar, and scroll up a bit
has:image in:#deep-dive-discussion
Only need to work out the date of post
@last veldt i was about to suggest that too!
good way of shaming people who dont do it themselves too for shits n giggles
@keen coral Show yourself coward
hello i bought this game yesterday it is very epic
Same. Still getting the hang of it. Only used Engineer so far. He looks good for solo, due to additional help from his turret, besides Bosco assisting you.
@steep goblet
Engie is good - seting platforms and turets for area denial
Heavy is also good
stage 2 EDD pretty unforgiving
So how do you promote one of your miners?
Reach level 25 on that character, accept the promotion assignment from the promotion terminal, complete the 4 missions necessary for the assignment, then pay the required fee in the memorial hall.
Oh~ okay I'm no where close to 25 haha silly me.
just keep at it, you'll get there eventually
Oh yeah.
joinging a union chapter, can u switch after u pick one or is it permanent?
joining*
it's permanent for a month until the month is up then you can switch during the recruitment week between months.
which is the best? or doesnt matter?
alright, thanks guys
goals are randomly assigned, pick whichever sounds coolest
@fresh shell Stage 2 of edd is by far one of the most challenging parts of this week
Regular DD is a cakewalk
So is stage 1 of edd
Stage 3 is the typical final stage of the EDD, difficult but manageable
when isn't Regular DD a cakewalk?
Yeah
Second stage pretty much requires really good coordination, some bug repellant platforms, and having teamates that don't die
By the end of the dive only me and the gunner had 0 downs with like 20 revives between the two of us, the driller and engie werent bad but that stage 2 is just not friendly
me an my pal didn't like the first layer of the deep dive, so we decided to just dig to the second layer. Reality around us is changing https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493879877347311676/710968383302008964/unknown.png
update, we have yet to reach layer 2, and everything is dark and shiny
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493879877347311676/710968496313466890/unknown.png
did that work?
still digging
@vagrant oak I remember this one week when DD gave me more trouble than EDD.
has anybody else had a hoarder spawn in the 3rd stage of edd? ive never seen that happen before
yup, we had it too
so its probably high probability spawn, it happens with some dives
anyone wanan do an elite deep dive with me?
just beat the EDD
wasn't too hard
definitely not as hard as the infamous PE with mactera infestation in the salt pits
hello i just bought this game yesterday im looking to add new friend for this game
you'll have better luck in #lfg-steam
welp i failed
Fucking Bulk had to spawn in the 3rd stage and mess me up, Fricking Bulks!!!
Yeah he's pretty early on
by the beard that 2nd stage of the EDD
Stage 2 this week is a pretty accurate representation of the bugged spawnrates we had in the second week of elite dives
Down to the lethal enemies mod in stage 3
yeah once you activate the pod you just get a MASSIVE horde
the wall was pretty much just swarmers
the other side grunts
and the thrid angle a heap of praetorians
i remember we all went down and just told the scout to survive until he can board the pod 😛
thank you!
@waxen mist What did you think of the murder cave on stage 2?
The one with 2 breeders, 2 brood nexus, 2 spit ballers, 40+ mactera, and a super high mactera spawn rate.
Oh yeah, during shield disruption
we just kinda handled it one at a time
we focused one of the breeders down and then i just instakilled the other with a cryo
then the engi decimated both spitballers with breach cutter blasts
and the gunner destroyed both nexuses
And during that whole time you didn’t get downed by a mini swarm or mactera cluster?
Well good on ya
I find the 2. stage of EDD undoable had a team of only high levels and we stil could not manage the goddam 2 stage after 5 trys
It took me three tries with randoms
@pure atlas You need a strategy and someone organizing
we tried countering the no shield with having lots of field medic and iron will
I lead a team of people that hadn’t yet attempted it and we beat it by killing groups of enemies in a certain order > mactera > nedocyte breeders > spitballer > brood nexus
Yeah, that perk selection isn’t the greatest
Here’s why
If you get downed, that snowballs
and everytime we managed to get to the pod and build the sattelite a goddam bulk showed up around the corner so we couldnt even react
Without shields, when you get picked up you tend to die pretty quickly
The trick is using a lot of supply drops
no really not worth ive gave up
Did you coordinate to freeze kill?
Cryo is good because of the excessive amount of mactera and the bulk or two that spawn on stage two
no we were a bunch of randoms so we just trusted each owns experience what to do
That there is the problem
That stage has communication and coordination by requirement
It’s not optional
we tried: first get up the mules as fast as possible after that do the dread on the field to its left once we did that we got rid of the spitballers and nexuses since we were on the pod thats what we somewhat established on strategie
guess i need to look out for a group and communicate via voicechannel
Key to stage 2 is not to get downed or getting downed little as possible. Because despite there not being many swarms, there are constant mini-swarms and they snowball out of hand if you dilly-dally and sightsee too much.
its better to take things slowly and carefully than rush and risk a down
There is tons upon tons of nitra, so resupplies are not an issue long as scout is in the game.
if it helps, i had a very easy time with a team of 3, gunner, scout and engi
driller is not very useful in this EDD in particular as the caves are very linear and there aren't many crowds
Getting downed snowballs your way to a defeat as revives leave you on deaths door without shields
Using supply drops for HP is a valid tactic on that mission and should be done
There is easily 300 nitra in that cave and stage 3 doesn’t require a ton of resupplies.
stage 3 can be rushed, but be careful there
2nd stage was scary
but luckily both bulks spawned at the same time before the uplink stage
we wiped 3rd stage
fuck the sticky goo holy fuck
yup goo, and lethal enemies, platforms are your friend
yeah...
might be the first EDD i'll skip, i already have enough blank cores to catch up
yeah it can be abit of a pain, managed to get it down to 36.5min so far
After a couple of attempts the hurdle seems to be that cave in part 2. Just can't stop people jumping off the cliff like lemmings.
i had a driller that mined out most of the are the uplink with the EPC
and used it to mine through dirt too
i couldn't comprehend their absolutely humongous brain
it isnt that bad, atleast after they moved the egg down
stage 2 is tricky but not impossiburu
a cryo driller can make it much easier
flame thrower does the job just fine
i did it with facemelter driller
just gotta dig down the fuel cell and know how to position the repel plat for the first one
well for the flying things a cryo is more helpful, considering 3 breeders...
so can you only get one matrix core a week?
Definitely one of the hardest stages from an EDD, but not impossible.
@half gust Blank cores? 3. Total cores? 9
I think Im up to 26 blank cores now, need to find a way to up them up quicker lol
(finished the oc sets a few weeks ago)
Stage 2 is just taking that big room as slowly as possible
Im not actually sure how spawns work in deep dives. I know the level is the same and I am relatively sure spawns are. But how those spawns appear I do not. Does a bulk appear at 10mins for everyone or is it just "one bulk will appear at some point"?
we had 2 bulk spawns in stage 2
spawns are not always consistent, i only got one bulk in stage 2
Hmm
I wonder if where you step influences what spawns. Like if you didnt go down a tunnel I did, maybe you wouldn't see the same things?
Loved stage 1 of the DD this week
Actually got very close to a team wipe 😆
We all set up nice and cozy in the natural bunker, so naturally the first thing the box spawns is a bulk on the other side of the dirt
It slaughters the greenbeard that didn't understand what all the screen shake and noise meant, then popped the dread egg when it died
So we're suddenly fighting a dread in a bulk crater with heavy spawns everywhere
'twas glorious, even at low haz
What an awesome game. On solo had all the eggs and had to find a makeshift way out as I had no more zip lines and the Mule was scaling up the cliff. While being pursued, I was able to dig and emerge a few meters by the drop ship which I could see, with seconds to go when I was done in by the Glyphid Praetorian. This game is amazing that you can make your own escape route by carving makeshift steps and climbing out.
2nd mission of elite deep dive is awful. no shield missions shouldnt exist =/
They should exist.
But, as a caveat, they should be avoidable.
One major problem with EDD/DD design is that they lock gameplay items behind difficulties that many people either don't like or are not good enough to beat.
the first one got me on solo, on the second attempt I waited on the bulk after going near the BB then finished the rest with minimal issues.
The 2nd stage of EDD is so challenging
The game throws everything at once at you at the dreadnought room
For the most part just take it slowly when entering. Aggro as much as you can from as far as you can
a lot of the difficulty will depend on your teammates too, if they are exceptional EDD goes smoothly and feels easy, if they can't kill bugs or are slow on the uptake for everything, its gonna feel super rough
Just a heads up that if a teammate drinks leaf lovers, they're a weak link
also a thing, remember you get plenty of nitra, call in several resupply for the uplink and fuel
extra ammo can save you but the extra health can really make a save
haha but no ammo = you lose for sure, but going down = free hp when picked up!
well going down during the last part of the 2nd stage of the EDD... that can cause a wipe...
I have played some DD but this was the first try on EDD, my team of randoms actually made the 2nd stage with ease imo! We also got the driller dc during the uplink and was only 3. We got wiped on stage 3 by goo and horde of grunts!
4 man EDD results in 2 bulks and oppressor spawned...
the last part can wipe you if you try to run too fast
What do DD and EDD stand for?
Deep Dive and Elite Deep Dive
Can someone give me a quick guide how to estimate hazard level difficulty? It seems hazard 4 lobbies often only want promoted players and hazard 5 is pretty rare overal
For deep dives? DD = normal haz3-4. EDD = haz 5+
I just meant in general. I have a hard time deciding at which hazard level I want to play based on skill, equipment, solo, random group or group of friends.
Sorry, you're in the DD discussion room so I was confused.
In general, I think haz 3 is good for beginners who can FPS well or learn quickly. Haz 4 is better for when the players have upgrades, or play with higher level players. Haz 5 is best for promoted players or dwarves with fully upgraded gear looking for a challenge.
Imagine failing at Elite Deep Dive stage 3's end not because the bugs got you, but because the game freezed and crashed.
also, all 3 missions seemed like hell but different kind of hell
@steady field I think we did this mission together then. You were the driller, right?
guys, how do you deal with scouts low ammo count?
I mean is it worth it to run ammo extending mods?
if youre running gk2 take extra ammo on tier 2
Yeah, I run extra ammo on scout
who thought it was a good idea to put a pod drop repair in bloody elite deep dive?!
impossible
well because it can be done, doesnt mean it should be
cryo driller makes this much easier
3 breeders and 2 spitballers gives me a level of pain only seen in an elite deep dive
kinda like it
i recommend having a cryo cannon for driller in this EDD
makes certain things way easier
with all the trash i found flame thrower to be a much better choice, breeders aren't really an issue beyond being bullet sponges
@willow salmon I was indeed
I would have to say go for flamer on the EDD, even a freeze build cryo takes too long to get that many macts
But crisper ignites them all in a second then you can focus on evasion
Snowball cryo might be worthwhile though
Why is shield disruption in EDD still a thing 
it's not too bad if you can kite well/clear the swarmers, recommend having a good driller for swarmers
To make things more interesting, ofc!
Just be glad they nerfed macts
Lethal enemies mact spawns were completely insane once upon a time
instant wipe
And you get more hp and red sugar spawns in shield dis now, too
That's my first EDD completion sorted. Props to the engineer for spamming platforms on stage 3.
Me: guess it's time for EDD this should be done quick
1h25min later: sweaty solo pod escape with all dwarves dead and I'm out of flamethrower
Thats when the sachels come out
Nuke chokes as you run for your dwarf life
And power swing any spitters you can Michael Jordan down
guys, what is the difficulty of the first deep dive going to be like?
2 dreads, 1 black box, cave leech cluster
if you're comfortable with haz 3, this will be ez
regular DD is pretty easy always. Any veteran can carry a team through.
regular deep dive is not a problem at all
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We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks
Deep Dives
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We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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LFG need an engi and gunner for deep dive
@craggy dew tru #lfg-steam
This EDD stage 2 room is immense
I completed deep dive for the first time. Got 15k exp (xD) and moustache cosmetics. Felt pretty underwhelming for hour long grind to be honest xD
now try your hand at the EDD : P
Welp time to get a party
1st stage is black core, 2nd stage is over clock, 3rd stage is cosmetic
ima be honest i kinda just join people on servers and see what i get lol
you only get the reward for completing a stage once per week though
that's fine, the regular deep dive can be done with pubs
ueah but not all missions r the same right
they change once per week
deep dives are the same seed for everyone for the week
iirc spawns change depending on host
right spawns are not consistent
some host can have more breeders, some hosts can have more spitballers
if were talking about 3rd stage how many missions are in 3rd stage
or am i reading this wrong
each deep dive has 3 missions
I would not recommend trying EDD until you are comfortably playing Haz5 normally
each deep dive is 3stages, each stage has 2 mission objectives
anyone playing gunner in EDD? what loadout did you use for it?
If your engi and driller can’t deal with the trash go for an AC build specced for aoe otherwise use leadstorm for those bulks/breeders/spitballers with explosive bulldog for the pesky swarmers
Tho if they can’t kill trash efficiently you’re better off finding a new team
stephan, have you see any weirdness with the pickaxes parts where you could equip them without doing the assignments?
hm; got any classes that were already legendary 3 when the update rolled over?
Unfortunately no : (
for this week's EDD I was running AC
But yeah if your driller engineer can take care of the small boys, you can bring minigun
any advice for soloing the EDD with gunner (loadouts...)?
Autocannon with splintering shells or carpet bomber, elephant rounds or six shooter bulldog, brrt probably works too but i dunno builds 🤷♂️
AC with Splintering, Carpet Bomber and a hidden gem is Neurotoxin. I pair it with Lead Spray BRT or Electric mines when Im also running Neurotoxins. Six shooter bulldog is also pretty standard if you want to kill mactera spawns and webspitters in one shot. Running incendiary nades since they are the most consistent for me.
Is it common for EDD to be undoable with random or is it just this one?
i think incendiary grenades is overdoing it especially if you have autocannon for chaff clearance
I had big bertha ac, six shooter bulldog and cluster grenades
incendiary is pretty good, its not just something you use on swarmers etc
see a big enough group you can fry them with a single grenade or soften them up to the point where anything that looks at em will kill it
yeah its not bad like ever
always run cluster to kill your fellow dwarves
keep them on their toes
The EDD is very doable with randoms, this one included
Well, I gave up after about 5 tries with randoms that can't understand that we need to stick together and that the mule room of the second mission is dangerous af
Not gonna waste more hours on that
Are you guys communicating?
Every time I try to tell people, beware of the mule room once at the second mission
Last try an account level 1832 managed to die falling in
maybe try and form a group on discord?
But there won't be much difference compared to randoms tho?
well if you have them on the discord, they would be more communicative
That lvl 1832 sounds like someone who just cheated to his lvl then
I did mine with randoms
I've already learnt that level don't mean much honestly
2 didn’t break the 100 lvl mark
Seen some low that plays well, some high that plays bad
some people only play upto haz4, and continue to level...
Thought to myself "Damn, he skulleffed the game"
Didnd't seem so lul
Should I try to build a group here or lfg? Checked lfg quite a few times and didn't see a single EDD going
Try creating your own invite there
account levels do matter
just as an indicator, not the actual thing itself
the best players I know are all 400-500+
The 0-200 region is a schrodinger's cat area where you never really know
I tapped out in mission 2 because of the breeders
Lost because bugs just didn’t stop spawning
Like not just breeders, we basically had a full on swarm every other minute
So we just died
Because every time we revived another swarm was ready
I tried doing it solo since it was my first edd and I learned my mistake with that
what is this week regular deep dive difficulty ?
pretty easy if you're comfortable killing dreads and doing black boxes
black boxes being ? and not sure how I would do with dreads on solo
black boxes are the uplinks you find on salvage missions but without the drop pod
if you're not comfortable solo i recommend joining a team, regular deep dives are generally easy enough that you wont fail with any pub
that "stay in the green zone" thing ?
solo is fine since I can use freeze anywhere without friendly fire, and I play coop with friends, just need to match time
and not sure how I would do with dreads on solo
Run like hell and hope Bosco has your back
yep the stay in the green zone thing
I am used to the dread following someone else while I freeze it, but see, if it follows me how do I shoot behind it, hoping bosco can kill it fast enough
bring a class with weapons that pierce dread frontal armor
this is fucking schit without shield tried it 12 times
which stage is the dread ?
if you need to try 12 times
don't
you're wasting your time
grind haz5 with the harder modifiers until you're comfortable then come back
gear alone isn't going to do it for you
you need good habits and thinking skills
at least I can see how well I can do against dreadnoughts right in the first stage
mactera plague looks like the real problem though
I will just hope for places to hide and wait bosco to take them down
engi's BC can cut them down like a hot knife thru butter
I actually haven't played normal dives in a while
get bored out of my mind
and steeve solos dreads
am a driller
axes damage dreads from the front
and his primaries pierce the frontal armor
if you're worried specifically about mactera plague + a dread solo, play engi and use breach cutter
and now 3 Naedocyte Breeder
WTF, im so mad rn. The second dive on deep dive Elite this week is fucking impossible
It's certainly very tough, closest we got was the very last stage but it spawned a detonator on top of the fuel cell at 90%
Gonna keep takin' cracks at it
What's hard about second stage? I haven't played it yet.
when u are uplinking
u are so close to the edge that u cant fight off tyhe enemies before they are right in ur face
u gte overloaded, impossible for m
Shield disrupt, pretty huge open room w a lotta blimps and spitballers, nonstop waves, lotta mactera, leeches, etc etc
Yep
Nice, sounds fun.
It'ssssssss a lot
Syncing up is huge and moving fast I think helped, we hit dreadnaught asap, stuck together, nothing we cud do abt the detonator but it was still a helluva hulla
You could have an engineer build platforms to expand the land for the objective or have a driller dig it down to the main ground level and then dig out a circle around it (not a bunker).
Ill try that ! always do the platform extension, super helpful
engineer platforms with repellent, gunner with shield, driller with sticky flames, scout with literally any of their grenades. Stage 2 is when my teammates had their most downs, but it is by no means impossible. If you and your teammates know your class then it's very doable, easy even.
"Its easy if your players are good" is kind of an obvious statement 😛
It's an elite deep dive, not everyone is supposed to be able to do it
I get frustrated by repellent in non-solo games, personally. It is substantially more wonky when more than one person is involved.
Like multiple engineers using it?
Having a single person makes knowing where aggro will go vastly more reliable.
four? wew
tbh I skip the elite most weeks
I'm already done with the overclocks and I can't be bothered putting in the time usually
I mostly play them to challenge myself at this point. Have all OCs as well
The second level of this weeks elite dive was indeed dreadful, literally and figuratively.
I rly like the EDDs tbh , they're def super fun to tackle
Sometimes a lot but it's a rly nice challenge
i cant beat an elite deep dive. is it bcuz i am stupid?
Nawwww they're supposed to be the toughest thing ni the game, they do take a lotta practice and decent builds n coordination
Not stupid at all, Im still gettin used to them
This one is odd RNG tho, are detonators predesignated ?
I've died to the EDD this week 4 times and 3 of them a det spawned exACTLY at 90% on the fuel cells
If it is then I can at least prep
They aren't
anyone doing elite dive?
Just beat the elite deep dive running a engi/drill/gun/gun comp - honestly its the only way 😆
still hard as shit
generally everyone gets the same enemy spawns, though for bulks the timing is a little different for everyone since everyone proceeds through the mission in different ways
a number of people have gotten bulks right at the end, others get theirs during the uplink, so there's some variation
from my experience enemies spawn is host depended, mainly for things like spitballers,broods and breeders
How do I unlock Deep Dives?
Reach level 25 with any class and then do the promotion assignment.
note that deep dives can only be done with promoted dwarfs
@royal tulip Bro I was the driller, that was some of the most intense shit I've ever done in the game. I remember when that detonator came into the tunnel and we had to drill to the pod or die that was hilarious and terrifying at the same time
So did you make it?
Can you do the promotion assignment missions with a different class?
Like, lets say I wanna promote my engineer, but since he doesnt get any exp anymore, I wanna level up my scout and do the promotion assignment at the same time
does that work?
yes
assignments can be done by whichever class
you dont have to do it as the one you're promoting it for
the defense in the second one is some of the most intense gameplay I've had in this game and it was great
@last veldt Thanks for the response
np
This weeks EDD was pretty easy overall. Did it wtih Scout Scout Engi Gunner, me and the other Scout both went for cryo grenades. The uplink on the second mission could have been tough, we did get a Bulk earlier in the level but none for any of the uplinks so... RNG was on our side.
M1000 + Electrocuting focus rounds, 1-1-1-1-2. Boomstick with Compact Shells, 1-2-3-1-2. Cryo grenades.
I've lost the edd it like 12 times
now I've made it 2 times in a row
Which part got you? 😛 I took a sneak peak at the display in the pod before heading down with the team, the mactera plague warning is what made me go for cryo. And to be in the safe side in case we get bulks, I went for electrocuting fpcus rounds to stun stuff.
This did have the hellish trinity of dumb warnings; mactera plague, shield disruption AND lethal enemies. Sometimes I feel like these aren't random at all and actually handpicked.
well, if they replaced shield disrupt with a ghost it would have been funnier
Only one red warning at a time Im afraid. But a couple of weeks ago, we did have the ghost on a point extraction mission and a dreadnought on that too. Probably one of the hardest Ive done so far.
ghost and bulk while defending the pod, can you imagine the mayhem?
I dont think Ive done ghost + black box yet, now THAT could be an interesting combo.
Can someone help me with this weeks Elite Deep Dive?
Hard to say, gotta be reasonably close to whoever you're going to play with or there's going to be unbearable latency to contend with.
ghost is aids
What happens when MOLLY bugs on the drop pod and doesnt enter it
nvm fixed it with engy platforms
doors open at 15 seconds remaining
#DeepDiveFridays lets gooo!!!
Just finished my first elite deep dive with 3 of the best dwarves I ever meet
it was an amazing experience
Rock and stone forever!
What are the stages of the EDD?
They should pin each week's screenshots
whats the different on elite?better rewards?
Better exp and gold
@supple gale What those two said, plus, you can do the normal deep dive for 1 blank core, 1 weapon overclock, and one cosmetic, plus elite for another blank core, overclock, and cosmetic, so it's just a new set of rewards.
assuming you can complete both the DD and EDD and the core hunt assignment you should get 3 blank cores, weapon overclocks, and 3 cosmetic cores every week
thank you
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Honestly it took us around ~2h to finish the edd last night, stage 2 without shields is cancer. We all kept going down after the first 5 minutes, constantly low hp and no ammo. We finally did the mules and the dreadnaught and then we had to uplink. No nitra anywhere to be seen we had to kill the poor loot bugs for ammo 😢 . It was a movie like experience. After that we drank the whole abyss bar 😄
50% of the time there was only 1 or 2 people up. And we finally hit stage 3 and we get a grunt swarm. I had 0 ammo in both guns as scout and only one alive. Kept manically pickaxing them and field medic came in clutch with the insta res
but the 3 dwarfs I played with were legends, we were laughing and joking all the way. Some of the best experiences while gaming ever
The 2nd stage was extremely tough, yeah. But it felt super awesome to find a good group who listened to each other and played as a team to keep the crew rolling.
I've attempted it around 10 times with randoms now and the first team I had was the closest to winning stage 2. We got to the fuel cell stage but got overrun. All my subsequent attempts die to the dreadnought or people just rush ahead and die in the big room
I'm probably just not good enough to do it honestly
I think all you need is a positive team that sticks together and fights for each other
none of us were above level 60 and we managed to do it
2 of us lvl ~25
best fun i ever had in drg
when we finally got our shields back on stage 3 it felt like sex 😄
I just don't think I've had the luck to get a team like that yet
First team looked good but then our driller dc'd
and then the remaining 3 of us made it almost to the end but failed
we had an mvp driller, on stage 2 he had like 5hp and only one alive, jumping through the floor filled with aliens to get to the droppod
biggest PogChamp moment ever
we mined all the nitra on the map
somehow with lootbugs managed to get just enough for one last ressuply for the uplink
it was tough af
not to mention 4 detonators in stage 2 alone
My last attempt ended because we had 2 scouts who were a little bit too liberal with their ammo use. They called 3 resupplies on the first stage and then right at the end one of them accidentally called a 4th even though we were all full
went into stage 2 with 5 nitra
needless to say we ran outta ammo
2 scouts on edd? but why...
I was our scout and honestly without me flying around finding the lootbugs for nitra I don't think we would make it
but we all played our part and driller was the real mvp
welp that sucks
I'm usually one of the last alive and I don't even consider myself good
If I was better I could probably clutch save but alas
we all managed our ammo rly good and still by the end of stage 2 we were all out
so if you wasted a ressuply I highly doubt it
stage 3 is a bit easier if anything
My first 2 runs were with randoms. Then I decided to join the discord to get an actual group and an actual voice chat involved. Took 3 more tries to get it right. (We had 2 gunners, me as a scout, and an engi. I don't think this deep dive particularly needed a driller, but the gunners coordinated shields definitely kept us alive at the end of stage 2 and on the last wave on stage 3.)
Anyone does edd solo and don’t mind sharing strats?
that elite deep dive
nearly gave me a heart attack
i was the last one left
and i made it into the pod just as a bulk and enemies were behind me
i went completely numb
i could feel my heart beating in the throat
@versed stone Stage 2?
stage 3
Really?
i literally thought i was gonna pass out
I didnt have a bulk spawn stage 3, nor has anyone else had a bulk stage 3
But there were 2 on stage 2
That spawn in the murder cave
there was another that spawned at the end of stage 3
when the gunner drops a supply pod since he didn't follow the rest of the group when leaving stage 1 of the edd, that's not very rock and stone right?
gunners #1. let them do what they want!
am gunner
Hey is there any way to dealing with the ghost in hunted cave. Like running around in small tunnel when hunting for dreadnaughts at level 4 isn't a hard mechanics its mosaicist wet dream and is legit fucking annoying mechanics
that is on the regular deep dive, right ? if I understand it correctly just make sure you won't get stuck , I guess , so large open areas when possible
it was a level 4 mission not deep dive, the problem with this mission was it map had shit tons of giant crystals and the cavern where no bigger the three dwarf stack on top of each other
the map procedural was against us as well
oh I think you clicked here by mistake
my solo DD was easier than I expected, it was nice, that last black box worried me though
yes
enemy spawns and difficulty scale with the amount of players https://i.imgur.com/FfKG6Iq.png (this applies to all difficulties)
probably just the number of players scaling ? you know, less foe HP and all
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just played my first deep dive elite, is it normal you have no shields?
On shieldless?
Bunker the second stage
yes
And fight the dreadnaught at spawn
Drilled drills to it
Try to use one refill on stage 1
if the team needs to bunker, it's most probably that it isn't good enough to win in the first place
kk
likely that 1 bulk or a bad oppressor spawn will cause a wipe
by all means try it
Lo
so can you only get a limited amount of matrixes a week?
alright thank you
if you craft all, forge mastery makes you end up with 11.25 each week
how that, do those deep dives give you more when you got mastery?
It's all completely random right? I've only played driller and all of my matrixes have been for gunner or other classes
so, every core you get is actually 120% of a core
since 5 cores = 6 cores in practice
k
So the number of cores you get each week ends up being 9 ( 1 + .2 + .2^2 +...+.2^n), which sums to 11.25
so 9 cores directly, 2 from forge mastery if you forge all 9, then partial progress towards a 3rd forge mastery core
all cores are random
the weapon OC core gets replaced by a blank core once you get all OC
the cosmetic core gets replaced by a mineral core once you get all cosmetic cores
awesome, thx for the info dude, was kinda confused at first
the rewards are random, but the pool is limited
there are either 98 or 100 weapon OC, roughly 24-25 per class
and 5-7 per weapon
there is a small but finite chance that the one you want will be the last one you get
Use blank for Overclocks
Once you get all of them the overclock cores you get from Deep Dive and weekly turn into blanks
assuming you spent all your blanks on weapon OC, you will get roughly 7.125 weapon OC a week
it will take 14 weeks to get them all
though you can easily max out one class first if you focus it when you get blanks
EDD wasn't too bad other than the shield disruption
Driller, Gunner, and Engie did it in just under an hour
the two naedocyte room on mission 2 keeps wrecking every team I try it with
The shield disruption is definitely the tricky one
neuro toxin grenade makes for a good defense against those, plus it can slow the dread
I got a good group my 5th try. Its a really tough mission, I think in that room we just spammed supply drops all over so we could run to whichever had the least enemies near it
it is harder with a full squad than it is with 2 people that is for sure
but with 2 people, you need 1 person to know how to work out the map
hey guys, is there a standard perk setup for elite deep dives?
4 hours to finish the EDD 
What perks would you recommend for EDD when going blind?
I'd take thorns, veteran depositer (or Elemental insulation (if applicable)) and the one that gives more health out of red sugar, but I'm not super familiar with what perks are good. (aside from iron will and instant revive for active perks)
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usually I take resupp,elemental and depends on class and build for the last one
veteran depo is if I plan on speeding
oh i completely forgot it was thursday today lmao
maybe this time i can do the edd with no problems like before
Finally managed to complete the EDD lol
We all had like 15 downs and only two made it to the droppod at the end
but a win's a win
aye
For Gunner's Minigun meta 😛
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it's time 😏
Rolling for PE stage 3
O boy O2 for the first stage of EDD
.. off to a great start
you don't see o2 warning in EDD often
gonna do the DD solo like normal
post the EDD stages here when you're done
ill try :3
ty
found a hoarder on stage 1! huzzah!
yeah like you always do
Why does it say new dives in -16 minutes and counting?
2nd stage is macteras, dread + minimules
first stage of DD was actually pretty tough
egg collection, mules, shield disruption
had a lot of ambient spawns
had a spitballer as I exited the pod on the first stage
that was funny, but expected on eggs
@tranquil thunder you need to restart, maybe respawn works too
they must be liking the fail rate on last weeks
now that I think about, lethal on glacial strat is more scary... freeze = death
freeze is triple damage lethal enemys do more damage...
This week's edd was alright
Shoutout to the like
Level 25 randos who against all odds powered thru the EDD w me last night before I went to bed after spending the whole week dying to it
Real MVP's
See I like your screenshot with the <elite> part of it so its clear which one is which
are deep dives bugged rn?
only got one overclock
and it says that I didn't even complete a single stage
they just reset an hour ago
edd gives me diarrhea
Does anyone know as a certainty if you get an equal number of resources from mining a vein versus cutting it off from the rock face and having it collapse?
Yes, you can’t destroy resources. But depending on the method you could send some chunks flying off at high speed. So mining around the vein then having it pop won’t be an issue.
So C4, epc tcf mining, or even a bulk explosion will yield the same amount of resources.
Do note that some beers like pots of gold and dark morkite only gives extra resource with pickaxe mining
Will there be new classes in future updates?
Will they be adding more ores, minerals and such though?
No
Next thing they are adding is more mission types and then more biomes
They were aiming on adding more secondary missions though so maybe those would include some new minerals
anyone enot get their cores from the deep dive?
@gusty violet did you not?
no
hm
3rd EDD mission is one big cave
it is more of a tunnel, cause morkite
The EDD is on glacial with shield disruption low oxygen, mactera and lethal enemies. 4 eggs and morkite, 2 dreads and 2 mules and morkite and 2 eggs i believe are the order.
first one was O2 not shield
oh ya, you're right
you can scroll up I posted a pic
Mactera was a breeze. Step 1, get in corridor, step 2, use BC to destroy whole wave in one shot. step 3, drink beer.
tbh I was feeling like it was cave leech cluster more than mactera
I was leeched like 4 times
Ya, there were a few crafty positioned leeches.
There was all kind of nitra as well on stages 2 and 3 easy to grab.
at the end of stage 2 I was like... well do I even need to mine nitra now?
started stage 3 with 390 nitra
I was in the same boat. I did it out of habit, but i could have skipped a few.
and that was just me lazely collecting that
265 here, i had to afk for 2m with 1 vein of morkite left to mine and died. Soloed as engineer.
on the 3rd stage. Sigh, at least it was only the cosmetic i missed out on.
on the 3rd stage it is easy to get overwhelmed by the waves, because there is enough nitra enough ammo is good to remember to have
is this EDD easier than last weeks?
if you're actually playing solo and not private, just pause the game.
I didn't think about even seeing if i could pause it until I was away.
oof
yeah if you're playing solo you can pause the game to take a break. It's a nice feature they have
ahh well, it w as easy enough to get that far, i can finish it sometime before it ends.
I thought the 3rd stage was longer, but not harder. since it's a morkite generation, it's one huge tunnel more or less, easy to find spots to funnel and easily destroy.
both this weeks and last weeks were morkite with 2 eggs and lethal
but here you can get frozen taking * 3 melee damage from the lethal boys
it is fun to get gibbed because you got frozen
I only got frozen once, but i stand in those warm pits as often as possible. BC and mines means nothing gets closes.
I did the driller thing... and
things as they got close
but auto subata go ratatatat
is the new deep dive out?
It's Thursday so I'm going with yes.
yes
the first stage is not nice because the nitra is spread out, 2nd stage has so much of it
3rd stage is... beware for freezing...
Less about nitra and more of the enemy count
I dunno, just seemed like there were a lot of enemies and plus the two dreads that drain your ammo
plus all the swarms that get summoned from the eggs
well, the first mission only has 1 swarm, the rest are waves, the 2nd mission does not have swarms at all
it only spawns waves of enemies because it is dreads + mules
the 3rd mission does have the 5-7min swarm + the swarm from the egg + lethal enemies and chance to freeze
seriously, that's what really boned us was the third stage
constantly frozen from the damn tunnels
yup, freeze and it is death... times 3 damage, from lethal enemies, on haz 5.5
Only remember seeing a few hot springs that were far appart
there are hot springs starting with the first egg
iirc there were non up to that point
yup
Can we talk about that EDD opening? a hull horder cliff to death, a mother of all swarms, a Detinator AND O2? Talk about GTFO
other than that Easy EDD
lost on the third stage, after drop pod was called >.<
Yeah, it's not easy, but I still think last week was more difficult.
We only had to do the Start once but my lord that was nasty
This EDD is pretty pathetically easy.
I mean, yeah it is easier than last week, doesnt mean you cant mess it up
Yeah last weeks was more difficult by far, with there being two dets at once for me last week
I finished soloing it blind several hours ago 😛
as I mentioned it is a stroll, last stage has a scary start with no hot pools till the eggs
somehow I managed to get to the hot pool before getting 50% cold...
find a vent, huff praet gas, knock on a cold ball, whatever
too used to getting away from things that breath on me
This weeks EDD Tips
Be Good
Don't be not good
Its very easy
I think this is one of the easiest EDD's in the past month or two
Low oxygen on mission one is annoying but not killer
#deep-dive-is-so-easy-discussion
yall forgetting about that one deep dive
the magma one
that people failed like 17-30 times
pro tips for winning the game:
- finish the objective
- don't die
follow these tips and you'll win every time!
im fucking telling ya, magma land is fucking cursed
80% of the games i lost where in there
magma core just hates
so what exaclty does deep dive reward?
aight thanks mayng! 🙂
question
where to go for bugs
as a friend of mine hosted a deepdive mission twice
and crashed in both of em
ping me for further notice pls. i muted this server
Quick Question- How do I equip an armor skin that I unlocked?
in the wardrobe, left side will be an armor paintjobs tile, click that to open up the selection.
Anyone knows this week's missions and perks? Both DD and edd
just gotta scroll up a bit
think you can find that if you search for images in this channel
Stage one was easy but stage 2 had so many leeches. So ig it’d have been easy if we had flares on the roof or heightened senses
This one was super smooth with a team that stuck together
Felt like my team made it harder than it should've been in the last stage in the room where the first egg is, they fought the swarm on the bottom level when it was clear it would get too crowded quickly, we pulled through though
Nothing makes me more angry than a leech grabbing me and my turret essentially laughing while shooting at anything but the leech. The target priority feels like "anything that's not a threat must kill first". 😉
It's so true lol
Three teams in a row now the leader ragequit, shame the party leader can't be transferred
easiest EDD in the past few months? well that's a relief
would disagree with easiest in the past few months, I can recall some that were far easier
@dense vine keep in mind if you're mining around a large vein and it pops, chunks can fly away from you and not auto pickup as you'd expect
@mental valley yeah turrets could be better with priority and only shoot at weakpoints if possible, and swarmers/jellies first or pinged targets to switch targets or something
@static hound thanks!
rare though, depends on a bunch of factors, you only notice it when you know how big a vein will give but you dont get that and then you see the chunks rolling away
pro tips for winning the game:
- finish the objective
- don't die
@deft spoke Pro tips to get rich.
- Get money
- ?????
- Profit
Just don't die 4head
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this EDD should be a straightforward one lol, yet I still get people ragequitting before the mission is even over.
man the elite deep dive is a bitch this week
So I just Promoted a character and havent done a deep dive yet. Is there a limit to how many you can do per week or does the map just reset every week?
it is always the same map in the week, and you can do it again, but you only get the matrix core stuff once for that map / week iirc
ok thanks a lot
But If you use different characters can you get more than one matrix core?
No
It's only paid out on your first completion of each stage, doing it again with a character you haven't done the dive with won't get you more rewards
Ok thanks for clearing it up for me!
Uh guys is GSG games lying to us about the balanced non-duplicate team?
Just did EDD with 4 rando gunners with ease
did it as a solo driller... what is your point?
how is EDD?
last weeks stage 2 was terrible
@bleak silo it was smooth for me with a balanced team too
Especially after last week's stage two :D
Whats Up Peoples! #DeepDiveFriday is here!!!
Good luck with all your mining! Lets get it. #DeepDiveFriday!
Around what player level should I be for elite deep dives, I try to join public lobbies but maybe because I am only level 25 it's hard for me to get into games
As long as you're able to play them, your level doesn't matter too much. It is true that a lot of higher ranked players don't want to risk taking along a low level player with them on an elite deep dive since it can be frustrating having to carry someone who may end up being dead weight and causing you to fail, so lower level players have that working against them, but there's no requirement and it doesn't mean you shouldn't bother trying.
The best thing you can do is make some friends and get together for them, or even assemble a team through this channel or #lfg-steam when you want to try them out
alright thanks for the advice, ill make sure to look around the discord then
3rd stage of the EDD was really really challenging holy moly
Me: opens EDD
5 seconds later: 3 bronze 1 players join.
pretty easy EDD this week. Especially compared to last weeks EDD
any scout for EDD?
nah maybe like an hour ago @deft kite
whats the elite deep dive phases this week?
or is there somewhere i can find that information
THANK YOU
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Can you solo DD?
Yes, it's possible
I mean if you feel like trying, nobody's stopping you. Go for it man
dude that huulu hoarder on the EDD
my brain just tunnel visions it
"I NEED THE LOOT"
i need to remember its EDD and its not important lol
Is 38 minutes a good time for solo?
Yes not bad
did my first solo EDD 😄
having mission control mention they don't believe I / we would survive the last DD stage was interesting xD
anyone around the pacific up for a regular DD? doing one for the first time


