Never read about it in patch notes
#deep-dive-discussion
austere pond
That's also just your experience
Me and my friend duo'd the EDD first try without many issues too
But that's because both of us have experienced the bullshit of PE last stage before and now know to rush EDD as fast as we can
And also just a lot of experience as well
I think most of the challenge of the game comes from rare instances of shit rng and underperforming teammates
Once you have a lot of experience that is
feral atlas
I've done it twice with mostly randoms.
It was no different from any glacial PE map.
Other than ofc the dread side objective.
If you're used to Haz5 PE, this was basically average.
tough night
I've tried EDD 3 times now... anybody else looking to do it that has experience and ready to "speed run" the first 2 missions?
feral atlas
The only real challenge with PE on EDDs is when people can't rub two brain cells together and realize the obvious things.
Like clearing the minehead zone.
tough night
@feral atlas are you sure that you guys didn't just do the first two missions quickly? I've done lots of Haz5 PE, and my teams have been very slow "gotta get all that gold" and it's a world of difference
feral atlas
And doing the side objectives before the ambiant swarm rampups.
This is what I expect the team to be capable of.
Otherwise, you're better off trying EDD once you get to that level.
tough night
when we got to the PE, it was nonstop, period. Like, we cleared the spitballers and all of the starting stuff and it was pretty much all we could do to keep killing things next to the minehead.
versed willow
feral atlas
Beating stage 3 is really, fucking, simple
you focus the two spitballers out the gate
versed willow
My team didn't put any aquarqs in, it was just me.
feral atlas
gunner zips you up to the minehead
driller flattens EVERYTHING
every icicle and snow drift around the minehead gets flattened into a fire zone
that's his job for the first 5 minutes
while the other 3 players get the blue rocks and nitra
then, immediately after the first wave starts dying, start the dread
tough night
I think we were at like 50 minutes going INTO the PE, because we cleared both first maps "making sure we had enough nitra"
feral atlas
we full cleared the first 2 stages
versed willow
I got a ton of bulks on the last stage.
feral atlas
50 min to get to stage 3 PE is just being really slow
tough night
actually, I've only done it twice, the third time we quit out in the first mission because somebody DC'd so probably shouldn't say anything about that
feral atlas
Only 25 minutes to enter stage 3 with 400+ nitra
wtf was your team doing?
taking 50 minutes?
tough night
I think being OCD about nitra and exploring. It was randos
tough night
well, yeah, of course randos aren't going to be reliable, lol
feral atlas
Your best bet is either being selective about the lobbies you stay with, or use Haz5 as the EDD queue
Also, Gabe, how the hell did we manage to mine more gold that you?
tough night
to be honest, I'm probably just barely good enough for EDD (based on that I've beat every week so far except this one, but that I'm sure I have quite a lot of room to grow still, especially compared to a few players I've seen)
feral atlas
Just play Haz5. Once you get used to it, especially with the negative modifiers, EDD should feel easy (if not for the playerbase difference).
tough night
I do play Haz5 almost universally
feral atlas
You do play shieldless, lethal enemies, or salvage missions?
Those are the ones that force you to use your kit to the fullest extent
tough night
probably not enough. I do try and go for warnings when possible, but mostly join other games...
brave urchin
changed some graphical settings midway through a deepdive to fix some framerate issues, crashed the game and can't rejoin
rip
coral willow
Hey guys, what chat do I go into for looking for Deep dive teammates?
chrome wolf
static hound
sometimes people ask here too
midnight spindle
EDD stage 3 is ridiculous
barren steppe
Personally I don't think the difficulty of stage three is the enemies thrown at you so much as the cave's formation being completely awful
If you don't make a beeline towards the minehead immediately its a near guaranteed wipe
glacial crane
what upgrades are good on the engineers primary shotgun and secondary grenade launcher?
glacial crane
how does the engineers turret work sometimes it turns around 180 degrees and sometimes it doesent turn around at all
zinc token
Mcdouble try to ask that on #drg-chat rather than the DD channels my man, this is for deep dives and drg chat will have more ppl to answer your question
glacial crane
ok
wraith shard
i want to make a real body swap with a girl the body swap is when my soul goes into her body and vice versa i become she and she becomes me who can help me?
fringe kettle
I feel like you need help
tough night
they are asking for help, so that sounds right, lol
modest field
any elite group running?
celest oasis
What do you mean use haz5 queue as the edd lobby? Explain? @feral atlas
feral atlas
Play Haz5. If the team is good, take them with you to EDD.
celest oasis
Hmm interesting
feral atlas
Haz5 players are self selected for the difficulty.
And are likely much higher skilled than any EDD random with a pulse that joins the queue.
It's the difference between trying to hire a new employee at a university campus, and a strip mall.
You fish where the fish are better.
celest oasis
This assumes every player who are on the mission havent already done the edd
Tbf I would just find a group to do edd weekly with
Less hassle
feral atlas
Do whatever works.
celest oasis
Are there any plans to have like an ingame friends list? Would be good to have that feature
feral atlas
Not yes. You're stuck with steam.
rose dirge
I thought DRG was already 1.0?
latent hamlet
next update is the 1.0 update
deft kite
@celest oasis if you want to fish out good player play modifier most people dislike or do not perform well with
anything magma core/frozen caverns with 3/3 and modifier like lethal damage and limited O2. pretty good for selecting good edd teams, everything on haz 5 of course.
static hound
So few people do EDD already
its definitely much harder than what people always say in discord
deft kite
that's not true i'm pretty sure plenty of people do edd and except this week they were all very accessible
vocal quarry
edd itself is so time consuming that i think a lot of people are running static edd parties to reduce failed attempts
deft kite
most edd take less than an hour to run with full party i'd say 40-50 about the same as a dota 2 game
naive bramble
took me 35 minutes to run the week's EDD
dull yacht
Took me 40 with randoms this week.
deft kite
takes me usually between 35 and and 50 with randoms
so yeah edd isn't that time consuming
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Hello everybody. I'm kinda new to the game. bought about a week ago. I'm done with the beginner assignments, I'm wondering what the deep dive look like. From my understanding it is the end game stuff. I haven't promoted a character yet so I haven't been able to test it out, can somebody quickly explain to me what it looks like ?
limber storm
3 missions in a row, you keep your health, ammos and nitra through the stages, the 3 stages are always the same, they get reset each week (and so do the rewards)
pastel badge
and the difference with the elite version ?
limber storm
hazard level
deft kite
Elite version is the same thing but with haz 4.5 5 5.5
pastel badge
okay, thanks for taking the time to explain š
static hound
also different set of 3 maps
tough night
Is there a way to report people? There's a guy who's constantly listing in DD with things like "f*gs" and "butthurt" He's obviously not very good at the game considering this is the 4th day in a row I've noticed him
wraith shard
Do you get rewards if you fail a stage during a deep dive and complete it later with another group? I failed my first elite dd but completed the last stage with another team without receiving the final reward
uncut raptor
you kinda answered your own question
if you complete a stage, you get the reward
regardless if you fail other stages
dull yacht
Do you get rewards if you fail a stage during a deep dive and complete it later with another group? I failed my first elite dd but completed the last stage with another team without receiving the final reward
You sure you didn't get the final reward?
wraith shard
Nope, I checked the forge but it was empty
unique spoke
DD rewards are granted per stage completed. If you didn't receive an award then either the stage was somehow not cleared or... there is a bug afoot.
verbal garden
is the 3rd level of an elite deep dive always this hard?
I failed it multiple times now
the other 2 are ok
junior fossil
most times there is one stage that is hareder than the rest, I would advice trying to kill the dread after a wave, or pull it to the minehead
dull yacht
My squad rushed dred first. Nearly wiped during the waves. Ziplines in the "sadness cave" saved our asses a fuckton. Do the dread ASAP
spring remnant
Hi guys can someone tell me what 'matrix cores' do?
cunning smelt
once you find a machine event they can be made into cosmetics or OCs
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brave dune
oh damn I still have the normal DD left to do! 
uncut raptor
better get on it!
velvet fjord
Question - If I buy a Pots of Gold drink and have BOSCO mine something, do I still get the bonus gold? I have the impression that I do not
uncut raptor
you do not
it has to be mined by you for the pots o gold to count
so no epc thin containment field or c4
hallow estuary
think of it as a pickaxe buff
doesnt do anything else except buff your pickaxe to get more gold
velvet fjord
You mean the thing only non-promoted players can find?
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uncut raptor
let me know what the DD and EDD missions are, archive stuff
austere plover
Ugh, this time I did pulled all DDs in time, but damn it was a hussle.
Thank dog I happened upon competent randoms who pulled me off.
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uncut raptor
DD is in glacial
EDD is in crystalline
first stage of DD is PE with morkite and parasites
cyan grove
The EDD tagline has a typo for all 5% of the population like me who care
quiet wyvern
The darkest trail, wonder if that means it's supposed to be harder?
plucky gate
Cant wait to see them
junior fossil
on EDD the huuli was next to the defence target on the first stage
junior fossil
uploading to img the current EDD stages
just be careful I only found enough nitra for 3 resupplys in the first stage
uncut raptor
cheers š
static hound
haha parasites, everyone's favorite besides lethal
quartz surge
cyan grove
uncut raptor
@junior fossil how difficult was the edd overall?
junior fossil
medium, first part slightly tight on nitra, 2nd part quick and easy just be warn of the well placed cave leech behind the brood nexsus, 3rd part slightly hard because the defence target
the black box spawns in a tunnel, when dug down it drops to a big open cave, but it spawns lots of spitters away
it required lots of terraphormin
cyan shoal
just finished EDD, the last black box placement is pretty genius~
junior fossil
good thing there wasnt any bulks
static hound
damn, still hoping for 10 bulk spawns
deft kite
lol edd this week was pretty ez
junior fossil
a bulk spawn on the black box on the 3rd stage would have been funny
had 2 waves while terraphorming for the black box
deft kite
terraforming the black box ?
cyan shoal
We didn't dig down the black box in the third stage, it'd be a surprised if the bulk just emerge underneath us
deft kite
you don't need to the spot it's in is very easy to defend
the spot under it is actually harder to defend
cyan shoal
yeah, we just defend it at its original location, just need to take care of both side of the tunnel
junior fossil
I gotten truma from getting bulked in tight spaces
deft kite
so you decided to get bulked on a ledge with no escape ?
deft kite
easier to defend 2 choke point than defend all around you
on a ledge
i know i've just done it i looked under it to see if it was a good idea to drop it down but the space it's in was the easiest to defend because of the 2 choke points
junior fossil
with my luck lately I wasnt going to give a bulk the chance to drop it
I had bluk spawns too many times lately
hollow cloud
my deep dive was so bugged, this is out 4th mission in one deep dive
and did not get a single reward
nova smelt
yeah no reward in normal deep dive either here
hollow cloud
so yeah, everyone, just dont do the deep dives atm
cyan shoal
just normal deep dive right? I got cores from EDD
bitter garnet
wraith shard
The normal Deep Dive also has 2 hoarders with 4 players.
vast valve
im having trouble finding the morkite on stage 3 of the deep dive?
i must be overlooking something but i swore i scoured the whole thing
immediately after typing this i found a huge cluster tucked away behind a column of ice
willow tulip
what a classic, lost edd stage 3 because some idiot leaf lover activated black box during a swarm
would have been easy other wise :/
versed stone
why are greenbeards doing elite deep dives
crisp heath
Play with friends who aren't idiots
willow tulip
I'm pretty sure it was a rank 100 person
lol
didn't use his sentry or platforms either
versed stone
maybe the music was bugged and he didnt realize
horde music doesnt always play so it can be hard to tell
but if he didnt use sentry yeah hes trash
willow tulip
maybe, it was right after it started though
rain forge
willow tulip
They were never bugged for me
tough night
I'd restart your machine just in case
fringe kettle
You donāt need music to know if thereās a swarm or not. If youāre level 100 you absolutely should be able to tell if thereās a swarm or not.
velvet fjord
^
Not a level 100 myself but...
I think it should be quite evident
by the literal swarm arriving
and also the Mission Control operator literally announcing their arrival
west carbon
would be nice if the bug that makes no enemies spawn while using bunker gets fixed, bunkering the 2 blackboxes made the elite very easy
vocal quarry
maybe he wasnt sober?
sage sigil
There is a bug when I switch from headphones to speakers or vice versa while in game, it messes with the sound and the result is that it does not play swarm music / drop pod music / any music, but other sound effects are not diminished in any way. The fix is to restart the game. Works every time for me.
tired elbow
man I cabnnot find the morkite in the third stage of the DD this week
been running around for 10 minutes trying to find it
tough night
look behind "ice pillars" (according to what somebody said earlier0
vast valve
@tired elbow somewhere on the side of the main cavern opposite of the drop pod is a HUGE deposit of morkite that's tucked behind a "pillar" of ice
tired elbow
thanks, I'll see if I can find it
vast valve
it's definitely not an obvious deposit, i really struggled trying to find it
tired elbow
ah, I found it, thanks for the help
vast valve
np!
tough night
So can you just farm DD for minerals? Like go back in get houli hoarders over and over again? Do you have to finish the whole "set"?
tired elbow
I think that so long as you compelte the first stage you get full rewards for any materials you've harvested.
However it's not really worth it, since DDs don't have a hazard bonus the crafting materials don't get multiplied by that and you just get a base amount, so you're probably better off just running short regular missions
uncut raptor
yeah i spent 5 minutes looking for that exact deposit of morkite
fringe kettle
This weeks EDD is the perfect EDD if you're a new to deep dives. Nice and easy.
tough night
we went from "Mission Impossible" to "This is Elite?"
west carbon
currently there is no penalty if one doesn't make it to the pod on any stage of the dive, should this change somehow and if yes how?
for example substract 20 nitra for every dwarf that doesn't make it
tough night
No, negatives in game design is fundamentally bad game design, especially in a team matchmaking game. Instead, restructure it as a positive.
west carbon
take all the ammo away from the dwarf that doesn't make it :P
tough night
Like, every dwarf that can make it to the escape pod grants X Y or Z for doing so
that's still a negative and still hurts the whole team
west carbon
you have a point
vast cargo
anyone know how to create a deep dive elite mission with blocked classes?
i can't see where i can check this option
fringe kettle
āPrevent late join character duplicationā
Should be on the left side of the esc menu.
brave dune
It doesn't prevent anything if you're in the space rig and you cannot late join into a deep dive
fringe kettle
whoops wrong directions. It's in the gameplay tab of options
vast cargo
Thanks The Loan Ranger. You're right š
lime jay
plucky gate
Oop
elder socket
Is there any point to running deep dives after the weekly completion? Map modifiers seem to give better rewards for my time.
fringe kettle
play them, get your rewards, then don't play them again for the week. That is unless you want to speedrun them.
hallow wagon
Think my EDD had the most rock-and-stoning I've ever done in a mission by a factor of ten
oak stratus
Can't believe I managed to finish this week's EDD solo first try, jesus im still shacking. For some reason I thought recovering black box would be impossible but wasn't that bad, doable if you're doing solo i guess. Good luck with yours peeps
blazing current
90 mins
hasty rain
I was doing the EDD last week and I kept getting really bad players. Like a gunner who was using neuro toxin on the cannon who got less kills than the scout. Also claimed that he had done 5 other EDD's. I kicked him after we failed and next try we passed.
lusty flower
Hey guys
Question
I play gunner
Which of the last tier sheild perks is the best
shockwave seems kind of bad
and the invulnerability seems like the kind of perk you shouldnt need if you are playing with a good team
Which do you think is the best?
hasty rain
Shockwave. Makes things bite you less when retreating.
lusty flower
What about static discharge?
Like if you are surrounded it could give you a window to escape
by stunning them
hallow wagon
I use Static, used Shockwave before we had Thorns to do about the same thing.
elder socket
@lusty flower For what role?
General play I'd never take it but there's something to be said for a dedicated miner scout
The bag capacity still better btw
elder socket
Sure I guess but why not thorns and elemental?
In general I'd say take perks that allow you to be in a position to not take damage in the first place, like shield link.
Also dash is great.
For passives if tankiness is what you're after it'd be hard to beat but why?
static hound
@lusty flower so shockwave will kill the green swarmers and jellies but not the white/red/radioactive swarmers that have 12hp, if that makes it sound less appealing take the stun
considering how in haz5 you never want swamers to touch you (nor jellies), but jellies slow you down and basically can put you in a situation where you die really fast due to no movement, thats basically what you're thinking about when choosing it
vocal quarry
Is there anything in Haz5 that you want to touch you?
XD
get swatted 2-3 times and you'll be spamming X
knotty rampart
How is the elite this week
vapid monolith
Not bad
fringe kettle
On the very easy side of the spectrum.
analog marsh
need to add hang over food to the game
meager tinsel
EDD was a lot easier than last week
uncut raptor
just a quick reminder on what the missions are for the edd
for those who don't know
wind nest
wow - this weeks EDD is easy considering the host was lagging and the engi didnt make platforms as much for the poor scout š„ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/636938619969470474/700797526638592050/unknown.png
quasi loom
So wats new
static ridge
im fastest edd is 42 mins i hope i can get fast this week
lofty niche
mm
dry sinew
Just completed this week's EDD as a driller with a norwegian Scout. Piece of cake, black boxes are really easy with less than 4 players.
velvet shale
I passed last weeks EDD w/ a breeze. I cant seem to complete this weeks lol.
glossy sandal
Really @velvet shale ? That final stage last week was a nightmare. Volatile Guts shouldn't be considered a positive mod -.- Where did you go wrong this week?
static hound
hes probably trying to solo it using one hand
hard topaz
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT
I did my very first elite dive solo
Steeve is significantly less useful in an elite deep dive
Dies almost immediately
junior fossil
always pick a guard steve so he can take afew hits
graceful cliff
Iāve never seen a black box mission before, do they only appear in EDD?
graceful cliff
Interesting.
frail zodiac
ghetto salvage
uncut raptor
but you can reattempt them if you fail
lament pecan
you can?
uncut raptor
pretty sure you can, since you need to do them to complete the deep dive stage
and it would suck if you failed on the last stage because you had to leave the black box due to bad bug spawns
lament pecan
has anyone tested this empirically
abstract shell
willow salmon
You don't get a second chance in normal salvage failing which sucks too because you've already explored entire cave and fixed 2-3 mules, so I don't see a reason why failing black box shouldn't fail deep dive
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quiet wyvern
Anybody need help with, and/or need to get the Deep Dives done, feel free to hmu, i'm more than happy to help
haughty swift
Havent attempted epic yet. Would like to
candid merlin
I just failed my first solo deep dive as when the ramp came out the pod on the 3rd mission it trapped my engineer under it and i could nqeither dig my way out or move.Is there an unstuck command in this game for future referance?
dull yacht
@candid merlin Last update made some changes where, when possible, that doesn't happen because the ramp goes down before you get to it. I think for now you just have to avoid it. With a team it's less detrimental-- but I had the same happen to me and they just had to leave.
candid merlin
Yeah ok @dull yacht ty for the reply,i tried typing /unstuck and it did nothing was a shame ill avoid it in the future
dull yacht
It was funnier in a team. I bet you were just mad
candid merlin
I may of called bosco some terrible terrible toaster related things when he revived me only for me to be trapped again
lament fable
well i got through the first two stages of the elite dd on solo but the last one overwhelmed the hell out of me. "no more beasties incoming" yeah ok pal.
it hurts. i really thought i had it.
uncut raptor
well the third stage is meant to be the hardest
MC even says it when you start off the third stage
junior fossil
as I mentioned earlier the last stage can get tricky depending on the defense that happens right next to the last room
aslong as you take enough time to set up for it, it can be very easy
foggy willow
the surprise dreadnought really f'ed us in the last stage of elite deep dive š¦
foggy willow
I clocked 300 hours + in this game which isn't a lot but is still quite a bit and I feel like I reached my max potential :/ it's hard to get better at shooting and making faster decisions.
static hound
whats max potential though? haz5?
quiet wyvern
I think 5.5 is the highest actually
foggy willow
I can't consistently beat haz 5 or elite deep dive personally
static hound
yeah edd has haz5.5 but honestly i dont know what 5.5 means so to me its just haz5
ruby garnet
@static hound Simple. Take all the Bugs from a Haz 5 Mission and half the Bugs from a Haz 1 Mission, add them in a Cave, add mission objectives, and there you have it. haz5.5.
junior fossil
there are bugs in haz1?
dull yacht
Quik maffs
wind nest
@junior fossil only tiny worms
hardy orchid
How do you invite people from discord into your game?
fringe kettle
#lfg-steam has the instructions in pinned messages
wheat marlin
Hello all. Can anyone help me with the DRG Chapters. Looking to join one but can't quite figure out how.
outer dome
You need to be on PC
Steam and Discord must be launched with the same priviledges (both as normal user or both as admin).
Then you can go to the union terminal (on the left when exiting your personal pod) and join chaptier.
wheat marlin
So I am on PC, Steam and Discord are both open, but I'm still getting the same message on the Union Terminal.
outer dome
letās switch to #interplanetary-miners-union since this channel is for deep dives
wheat marlin
Ah, yeah good point.
brave dune
but you can't chat in that channel unless you're in an union? 
outer dome
Yeah, forgot about that š , we continued in pm, problem solved now.
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velvet fjord
Question, was the regular deep dive glitched with lack of Morkite?
I remember this being asked here and I don't recall the answer
velvet fjord
š
wind nest
you could be cheeky and get the morkite buff
velvet fjord
last stage
Rich atmosphere modifier - Nice
Cave Leech Cluster - Fuck
Remembering you have Heightened Senses II on - Very nice
I also got a nice beard for the Driller out of that
velvet fjord
I did it
I accidentally a team mate with C4
Now I feel bad.
It legit cost us the EDD.
At least it was only the first stage..
junior fossil
C4 teammate as driller as just a normal thing
velvet fjord
I saw a bunch of Glyphids + Praetorian rushing up the tunnel I just dug
In the heat of the moment I lobbed a C4 there and ran back to the safe zone
I fail to notice the blast radius indicator, and that my Scout is still in it
Blew him the fuck up.
I legit feel bad about it
dull yacht
Good
jovial torrent
It's always the scout š
When someone is impatient about me drilling through compact dirt and they start doing it themselves I run up and scare the shit out of them by throwing a C4. Gets them out of the way real quick.
peak glacier
Hooray
My first completed EDD!
last time I tried it, I got fucked by the third phase
volatile guts
haunted cave
10 aquarq PE
dreadnought
pastel finch
hey folks, I have a quick question:
I just unlocked deep dives, how many times you can do them?
Infinite or it's one time mission?
outer dome
you only get one reward per stage, per week
wraith shard
^ that
pastel finch
oh, I see, thank you!
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uncut raptor
lethal enemies and volatile guts salvage on magma core
versed willow
EDD, Salt Pits, 250 Morkite + 2 Eggs, Low Gravity + Mactera Plague + 2 Mules + 2 Eggs, Regenerative Bugs + 10 Aquarqs + 2 Eggs.
lyric pagoda
many thanks to the fine random dwarves who just carried me through my first EDD. apologies for all the accidental bunny juice applications.
static hound
0 downs nice
tight blaze
well, this weeks normal deep dive seems a clusterfuck to me. having to find unfindable morkite in a huge cave while constantly being harassed by damn bugs. and of course, i could not find any of that damn morkite in the first place!
junior fossil
yeah some of the morkite is well hidden...
tight blaze
and of course, since it is so late in the week, there are NO groups going anymore. and solo is nice and all, but not if you're trying to find a needle in a freaking haystack, constantly being harassed
oh well. no deep dive for me this week then. i'd just get some overclock for a weapon i hate anyways
static hound
yeah try to do it earlier in the week if you can
tropic cape
Anyone get like 3 praet swarms during the EDD
just soloed it with Engie but it was absolute garbo cause I brought PGL isntead of BC
and i got 3 praet swarms i had to kill with shotty and that was the worst experience
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uncut raptor
here we go
DD is in glacial strata again
EDD is in Salt Pits
will attempt the DD solo
plucky gate
Dd or edd?
uncut raptor
DD
lethal enemies too
2nd stage looks to be much easier
will post the image of all 3 stages soon
plucky gate
@blazing current there was enough morkite on the last dives?
blazing current
@plucky gate People say there was, but I can't find enough on the first chapter DD
Only found 140
plucky gate
There always is more than enough
So you must have missed it. Especially on Mining Expeditions, theres a last loot cave with lots of goodies including extra Morkite
@uncut raptor DD in the glacial again?
Wasnt it glacial last week?
shut cypress
i can only find 9 aquarqs on the 2nd EDD mission.. combed the map from top to bottom with a bloody magnifying glass over and over with no success
plucky gate
Over and over?
Its only been one hour since they dropped...
I guarantee you its there, just hidden and a pain in the butt to find
uncut raptor
it was
and guess what? morkite is hiding on stage 3 again
it's next to one of the aquarq spawns where there's a few deposits of gold and nitra
also note for stage 1, 2 of the mules spawn in a deep pit
one egg is right next to drop pod and is the one that initiates the swarm
the other egg is high up on a ledge
note for stage 2, there's a bet-c close to the black box
and you are probably going to fight it since you might not have enough morkite to skip it
so yeah this week's DD was just as challenging as last week's imo
also please post the EDD missions here too so i can add it to my archive
shut cypress
@plucky gate yeah, i ran around for 15 minutes with 9/10 (in the same try ofc.) it must be hidden really well
just shooting bugs and running out of ammo
outer dome
Probably a well hidden/sealed room, there is always 3 extra aquarqs iirc.
storm bison
Those silly aquarqs always trying to hide
junior fossil
I found all 10 without much problem
there was a small room at around wn300 from the minehead with 2, and one hidden behind the dread egg
uncut raptor
cheers @junior fossil š
junior fossil
this week I feel is on the easier side once you get past the defence
only note about the 3rd stage... cave liches...
also 2nd egg is a swarm on the 3rd stage
junior fossil
salt
junior fossil
with all the baby rollers
autumn minnow
Anyone up for deep dive?
cyan shoal
The droppod lead you to a pit in the first EDD map, thankfully got hoverboots
quiet wyvern
Armor shredding kicks the Baby shellbacks arse's, cause der armor is ass compared to their adult version
but the can be easy targets to, crack the armor over their head, and with a bit of consistent fire they'll go down, piece of cake
Oh and i'm gonna solo the regular Deep Dive to get that done, probably gonna get with a friend or 2 later on to get a faster time
unkempt breach
what's going with deep dive this week?
the progress screen is all messed up
UI said stage 0 through out three stages
after stage 3, it reset to stage 1 with "unknown"?
quiet wyvern
idk what that means, i've never had that happen to me
unkempt breach
I just did a deep dive, all 3 stages, done, it's not counting
uncut raptor
oh dear
quiet wyvern
that's not good
@fringe kettle what would you make of this, this lad over here said he did a deep dive but none of it counted
Fatmice i mean
unkempt breach
How do I prove that I'm not making this up?
fringe kettle
Weāre you the host or the client?
unkempt breach
client
fringe kettle
Did you play last weeks dive?
unkempt breach
ofc
fringe kettle
Weāre they the same or did you get this weeks new biome and modifiers?
unkempt breach
deep dives completed, 27, elite deep dives completed 26
deep dive this week was glacial, aquad + morkite, egg + morkite, morkite + 2 mule
3rd stage modifier was rich o2
if I recall right
fringe kettle
Because last weeks was glacial with 2 mules, 150 morkite, rich atmosphere and cave leech.
did stage 3 have exploder infestation?
fringe kettle
did you have any black boxes to complete?
unkempt breach
none
fringe kettle
Here's what I think happened.
unkempt breach
the host didn't refresh his client before hosting this moring?
is that what you are thinking?
no b/c we were doing all weekly
we did the 3blank cores, then 3 priority mission
fringe kettle
I think the host selected last weeks deep dive before it reset. For you the dive had already ticked over to the new week. Essentially your game got confused. Because it sounds like you played last weeks deep dive. One last question, was stage 1 salvage or point extract?
unkempt breach
neither
fringe kettle
Which can happen if his computer time is wonky
fringe kettle
that was last weeks
unkempt breach
I recall he said he was french...
fringe kettle
There was probably some sync issue between games on resetting dives. He saw the old one. You saw the new one. Because he was host it generated the old one.
I bet if you were to attempt it again you'd get a different dive.
unkempt breach
what do you see for code name?
I see hunter's outpost
I should have taken a print screen....sigh
at the end
fringe kettle
See that's the thing. The name is the only thing from this weeks that has matched this weeks dive. Everything else was from last week. Makes me think that the name is what the client thinks it is, not sent from the host.
vast valve
once again glacial strata where the last mission's morkite is almost impossible to find
fringe kettle
Here's the reddit posts for the dives.
This Week https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/g6i8hx/weekly_deep_dives_thread_23rd_april_2020/
Last Week https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/g2b214/weekly_deep_dives_thread_16th_april_2020/
fat fingered the enter key
unkempt breach
is there a record somewhere on my client that records the name of the dive?
I did?
fringe kettle
I did
If you'll look at last weeks you should see that what you described as missions was basically the same as what was shown.
So I believe your game thought it was playing this weeks, but I suspect your host had the switch happen without restarting his game you ended up playing last weeks.
unkempt breach
then how were we doing this weeks' blank cores and priority mission then?
fringe kettle
beats me
unkempt breach
I spent 2h with the same host
fringe kettle
All I know is you didn't play this weeks dive. I bet once you restart your game and try it again, it'll be different.
unkempt breach
well the code name is the same as this morning when i logged on, hunter's outpost
new dives in 6:20:17:10
fringe kettle
What I'm saying is your game ticked over into the new week. It thought that it was going to play this weeks deep dive. You host, however, had not ticked over into the new week (or hadn't restarted his game). So when he went to select the deep dive it probably had a negative counter on it. It probably generated last weeks dive.
So if you play this weeks deep dive again I can almost guarantee you it'll be different. Different level layout and different objectives.
unkempt breach
I get you're saying. But it doesn't explain the fact that the week's mission were sync'ed yet the dives were not.
Ofc if I host the dives now, I will be playing this week's dives.
fringe kettle
Actually I might be able to explain that now that I think about it.
Missions are on a rolling 30 minute cycle and assignment missions are based on a set order of primary objectives. They just pulled whatever was available in the current pool of available missions.
unkempt breach
I hope the devs fixes this problem of syncing
fringe kettle
It's seems to only really be an issue once a week if the games aren't restarted.
unkempt breach
simply my opinion, i find it annoying, waste of time.
fringe kettle
I don't disagree. Hopefully something that can be resolved when 1.0 drops.
glass hearth
how are the DD this week?
fringe kettle
easy
green prairie
god just had a weird thing happen, completed first mission of the EDD and then we got booted to the space rig
uncut raptor
were you hosting?
rocky current
Whatās the elite look like?
fringe kettle
vast valve
stage 2 of the edd is a nightmare
green prairie
its real bad
my experience of that has made me consider macteras my most hated enemy to fight
fringe kettle
A scout with cryo, a good driller, or an engineer with pgl make short work of macteras. Theyāre very easy to deal with.
oak stratus
yeah stage 2 and never ending mactera waves + couldn't find the last 2 gems, god damn
oh i know what it is, i forgot to drink my slayer stout beer, let's try again shall we
odd comet
Bosco was carrying the last aquarq to the minehead when a horde of grunts started spawning and never stopped.
They were literally spawning faster than I could kill them
My fault for soloing as scout, I guess
vast valve
ive managed to solo the last 5 EDDs as scout but this one may be the combo breaker
static hound
keep trying im getting close
quiet wyvern
Failed the EDD twice now, both on Stage 2, frickin' Mactera plague!
versed willow
There was just a pit of 10 younglings in stage 3 for me, lol.
glass hearth
what is the EDD like this week
broken swallow
cancer
static hound
lots of groups failing EDD
fringe kettle
I found it easy. You need to know how to deal with lethal enemies as well as mactera. Standard rules apply, if youāre slow youāll lose.
static hound
its easy
but for most people its hard
Every week its "man EDD is so easy this week" when tons of groups fail
fringe kettle
Well it should be. Itās haz 4.5-5-5.5. Given those difficulties it was easy.
near delta
dd discussion is pretty a worthless chat aside from the early screenshots, otherwise it's nothing but elites crying "it's too ez this week! devs pls make hardder" and the only advice given is from everyone else whos struggling. If the games broken ass spawn system of flooding you're entire screen with bugs overwhelms you all you're given is 'git gud, it's ez'.
static hound
yep
trim bough
DD 3 is a nightmare to navigate
static hound
yeah the cavern is a bit spiky
better than the even spikier ice cavern recently though
junior fossil
current EDD hard point imo would be the defense on the first stage, lethal enemies would make most people lose
static hound
that and the second stage mactera triple grabber rush right out of the drop pod
lots of teams dont prioritize the dreadnaught
nor do they time the swarms
ive seen teams kite the dread around the outer circle instead of one spot and it takes too long to kill
junior fossil
when you dont focus fire... well that sorta team needs practice on co-op
static hound
easier to focus when the dread isnt moving around a large area
trim bough
honestly, A gunner who knows how to save their shield can mitigate some mactera problems
but most gunners I see either use their shields for revives and point defense
junior fossil
mactera and acid spitters
sturdy egret
im about to do my first deep dive, and tips?
static hound
at the same time a well aimed BC shot will shred like 10 macteras too
tips? stick with the team, try to be fast with everything you're doing, efficiently handle your ammo and resupplies, communicate communicate communicate, if someone else knows what they're doing just follow their lead
latent hamlet
git gud
storm bison
@vast valve Really ? Well let's see if i can survive this one solo then thankfully i only did the last one solo so no streaks for me yet
brittle fractal
first DD: just get into killing
first EDD: just get into killing
never let a scout kills more than you do pal
hasty rain
Had a crap gunner teammate who got less kills than a scout and also claimed he was a god.
my dream scout is those care nothing than mining
oak stratus
holy f***. That is amazing, hat's off to you guys
you even had time to collect some gold haha
took me 45 minutes to do the first stage, you finished all 3 in 30
oak stratus
the driller man has been grinding for two years i see
brittle fractal
idk
some high lvl is save switching from experimental
but I like this dude
he did well
static hound
mining gold is fine if everyone knows exactly what they are doing and when they should be doing it, but is a trap for many players who drag their beards
brittle fractal
or those are golds with blood
static hound
i see a lot of good scouts get a lot of kills
and of course if the scout is the last one alive
brittle fractal
scouts actually shouldnt
except they have no choice
the loop is: escort->mining->escort->mining
from tunnel to next cave
static hound
I dont believe in hard roles since the game is pretty relaxed other than the unique support tools
brittle fractal
yeah
junior fossil
you are missing the point where the scout light up
should be escort-> light-> mine repeat
oak stratus
what do you even do when you achieved all items + wearables? Just keep playing for fun? Doesn't that get boring?
latent hamlet
how much variation is there on cave gen between runs?
caves are exactly the same right?
same with mineral deposits?
brittle fractal
try this out
oak stratus
I tried twice this EDD and the caves were exactly the same for me
latent hamlet
okay, if i end up running an EDD ill try and get some good screens of the map and optimal tunnels to make
try and change this chat from elitist git gud to wholesome git gud
š
brittle fractal
lmao
willow salmon
Caves are the same, mineral veins might be random
Spawns vary between up to 2 and up to 4 dorf teams
modern adder
fringe kettle
The layout will be identical for the week. Spawns are the only thing that change based on player count.
granite lantern
hows the new edd?
fringe kettle
Apparently people think stage 2 is hard.
Stage 1: 4 eggs + 1 black box with volatile guts and lethal enemies
Stage 2: 10 aquarqs + 1 dread with mactera plague
Stage 3: 225 morkite + 2 eggs with no positive or negative modifiers
neat current
Stage 2 is hard... for scouts that usually do their thing for aquarqs
unkempt breach
edd this week? stage 2 is not hard. pop the dread and lead it to the mine head
extra dmg from the mine head means you can kill it within 30s
@fringe kettle up for some games?
fringe kettle
sure, let me finish breakfast
unkempt breach
the problem with stage 2 is ppl need to clean the floor around the mine head, all of those stalactites that have fallen on the ground make it hard to kite
that's the job of the driller
oblique elk
When it says deep dives are seeded, is everything static? It seems at least cave layout is static, but are morkite veins for example always in the same location? Or is mineral placement done with a different PRNG that isn't seeded?
versed willow
It is all the same except for enemy spawns, which is primarily determined by player count.
As an example, an EDD with 2 players will always encounter 2 Spitballers in the spawn area.
oblique elk
Awesome, thank you! And would you happen to know if they are play-tested before they are released?
versed willow
4 players have no Spitballers but a Bet-C later.
They are completely random, the devs don't even know what to expect.
oblique elk
Neat, I appreciate the info. š
arctic zephyr
Well I just hit prestige and was wondering if there are anyone doing the matrix core runs or missions I might join to get the hang of it
knotty rampart
@arctic zephyr you can join me I'm just doing haz 4
quiet wyvern
Why does the P.E's always have to have the worst warnings on EDD's, we can't beat the second stage of the Gutless Burrow, it's a real pain in the butt
quiet wyvern
that musta sucked
quiet wyvern
Also anyone still struggling with stage 2 of the EDD like me?
celest oasis
This weeks edd was fun lol
2nd mission is interesting
Dont immediately get out of the pod when you drop down
Clear bugs then go out imo
Then just speed run the digging of quarks and dread
The grabbers are the worst so we focused those down first
I think it was really close because nitra was a bit low, we had a close shave after 2 full on waves, then rushed dread before third wave spawned , if you let any more waves spawn you're in for a bad time imho
You could rush it after one wave, but youd have to be incredibly fast
hard topaz
I can't get past the second mission. Literally every 10 seconds after killing a previous wave of bugs another spawns
inland turret
near delta
I can't get past the second mission. Literally every 10 seconds after killing a previous wave of bugs another spawns
@hard topaz this^
odd comet
And god help you if you try to run from them to grab the last 2 aquarqs instead of killing them, because now you have a bottomless horde chasing you
near delta
Something with the spawing system for EDD point extractions is just massively fucked. I've seen in the past people claiming Mactrera plague was good because "the flyers take up normal wave spawns" that sure as hell dosen't seem to be happening now. It's more like a full mactera wave ON TOP of the already broken PE waves.
odd comet
I mean, I didn't even see any mactera for the last 10 minutes of that PE. It was just endless grunts
Couldn't kill them all
Could barely resupply even with ifgs
And eventually failed to them when a slasher managed to get ahead of me and stun me
fringe kettle
PE ambient wave spawns take into account total time on the EDD. If you are slow on earlier stages then later PE stages will be a pain.
odd comet
I went into mission 2 with 15 minutes on the clock
Which is not a bad time for a solo EDD
near delta
well aware, we entered mission 2 at 10 minutes, how much fucking faster can you get? Never mind the clearly broken mechanic of that in the first place mission types in EDDs shouldn't be impossible if you arn't a top ten solo speedrunner scout.
The closest run I got we got 8 of 10 quarks and just finished the dread as the third wave spawned, the walls couldn't bee seen through the grunts gaurds and ||OH MY GOD FUCK SLASHERS|| and then on top of that about 15 mactera spitters 4 goo bombers and 3 grabbers. Grabbers are broken, got grabbed while the thing was 20 feet away from me. How in the fuck even?! Like I shoot at it but nope the thing King Crimsons me into it's clutches even tho I clearly shot it and should have had time to fight it off. For the record my ping was only 24ms which shouldn't be nearly enough to allow that to happen.
Good to know one of the quarks is behind the egg, but the rest of this stage is a smorgasbord of bullshit.
vast valve
yeah this is the first edd in a long time that im just giving up on
static hound
dont worry guys, some people think its sooooo easy
fringe kettle
Because if your teammates are competent and understand how to deal with enemies then it is easy.
One person not pulling their weight brings the entire team down significantly on an edd.
blazing current
You know, I thought 3rd stage haunted cave PE with explosive guts is bad enough
Now I know that mactera plague is way worse
junior fossil
it is a matter of presective, are you used to haz5 macteras? if so it wouldnt feel hard
blazing current
I can count my total haz 5 games with my hands
Mostly play Haz 4
Guess that's the case
junior fossil
according to the wiki it is approc to haz4.5/5/5.5 for edd, so I would recommend playing some more haz5 to get the feeling for the enemies
seemingly PE is the troublesome for most, so learning how to scout out the aquarq might be a good idea
blazing current
Tried EDD with engi earlier, the 1st stage is a breeze, but stage 2 oh boy
junior fossil
yeah engie requires some know how on how to make platforms to move around and block some angles for projectiles
near delta
Fuck Elite Deep Dive Point Extraction and fuck me we finally beat it! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663510501426200576/703510219455463504/Deep_Rock_Galactic_Screenshot_2020.04.24_-_22.13.54.26.png
DOUBLE 
GUN 
POWER!
tired remnant
Scout instead of engi? Interdasting
near delta
yeah, engy just didn't seem to be able to wipe out the macteras fast enough
so carpet bomber cannon and exaust vectoring minigun with cryo driller
only got by with cordinated shield staggering so the air swarms didn't wipe us
extra firepower also helped with the dread
whoever wasn't being chased was laying into its ass
carpet was also super helpful in stage 3 cuz the game just threw hoards of swarmers at us
so we backed into a small tunnel and i shot at it and hosed em down
junior fossil
I just nerotoxin nade everything and kept moving :3
near delta
the driller had battle axes for the dread
near delta
after we got past stage 2 we were playing it safe
junior fossil
3rd stage start with the 6 or so cave lich is kinda scary
esp the one above the pit
near delta
i warned the crap outta the scout ahead of time so he poked into every room with a flare and then we breached lighting up the ceiling
junior fossil
luckly it is mostly up to the first egg with the cave lichs
I dont remember many of them after that
near delta
leaches if i know they're present don't concern me, its the things that I can't predict that usually fuck me over.
also making the scout paranoied helps
uncut raptor
the breach cutter melts through mactera swarms
willow salmon
Sips Blacklock while reading the chat in EDD avoiding casual
storm bison
@willow salmon solo runner ?
willow salmon
Recently yes, about 160 solo missions and counting because I got fed up with looking for lobbies in missions interesting to me (and when hosting nobody would join anyway). Even so though, I play the game for fun of exploring the caves (especially the massive ones) rather than challenge myself to the edge, so I usually play on haz 3 or 4 when feeling confident
The last time I played EDD was when it was in sandblasted for second time, after a few failed team runs I tried to solo it and succeeded in the end but almost tore all my hair out
If you don't have good people to run EDD with then you need a good luck with pubs because most do it just for the bonus cores and end up corpse cartwheeling it until they get carried
storm bison
Haven't had such a streak of bad luck tbh and yes i tend to play haz3 or 4 too and usually newcomers join me and i don't mind that tbh especially since i can give them some tips
Usually for edds if it's easy i go with pub people and if it's a eye tearing one i go with the boys from the french discord
But i am starting to play solo as well i want to field test some solo builds here and there
willow oxide
;o; why am i being punished... 4 detonators first stage, and im supposed to stay in that BS circle to repair fuel.
willow salmon
Yes, this game mode is pretty dumb
One it decays way too fast (like double speed of it being filled up) and two if we once estabilished connection why can't we do that again
And why do we need to keep the connection for already started fuel which is right there
storm bison
I admit the slavage mission while it is fonctionnal really need to be revisited
Like for all of the other missions there is only two way for you to lose either teamwipe or not reaching the drop pod
Salvage is the only one with a third way to lose and unlike the team wipe and being late to the drop pod it's just you not being able to reactivate the connection
pulsar falcon
Why is the second EDD stage so cancerous
dull yacht
Mactera and grabbers out the ass
junior fossil
because people are not used to mactera PE haz5 mostly...
quiet wyvern
yea including me
doesn't help that a dread is the other objective, why couldn't it be a black box in a tunnel area at least
or even Morkite
ornate osprey
I'm in elite deep dive right now, first mission and I'm solo. Eggs are done but I can't find the box
junior fossil
use the scanner (tab) it should be a big green box
it was next to one of the eggs iirc
ornate osprey
Ugh kept thinking that was Molly. Thanks man, rock and stone
dull yacht
Woof. Finally did it with randoms. Me and Scout carried the start of S2, which was basically the hard part this week
quiet wyvern
I need someone to carry me through it sometime
waxen mist
jesus S2 is a nightmare
the point extraction spawn rates need to be stepped down a bit
static hound
at this point I assume its intended but maybe in 1.0 they'll change how PE timers and spawn rates work
glass socket
This weeks edd seems another easy one š¦ 2 weeks in a row they barely feel like haz4.
just did with team of rando's in 2 attempts, i wish they would increase the difficulty so it would actually require a little bit of communication and planning.
uncut raptor
there are two types of edd players
the one where they can do it ezpz with no problems
and the other who has done 2342 attempts and can't get past a certain stage
junior fossil
as I mentioned before, it really varys from person to person, but if you are used to haz5, this week doesnt feel bad at all
blazing current
It really depends on the player's experience
People who mainly plays haz3/4 with teams is different from people who plays haz4/5 solo
The ones that play haz3/haz4 says EDD is hard, and the ones that play haz5 solo says EDD is easy, and both are correct based on their own experience
dull yacht
Or maybe if you play with 3 randoms it's a crapshoot?
For me, the start of S2 wiped out all other players on both my attempts. Except the second. Where having another player up meant I didn't run out of ammo.
storm bison
I am a weird hybrid then if i follow weeb dwarf logic
I never complain about edd being hard and i slug like the lazy ass that i am in haz 4 or 3
Well alright maybe that's because of this
Lazyness otherwise i barely give two crap about difficulty
junior fossil
I just have the haz up to 5 for extra rewards
uncut raptor
i don't usually play on haz 5, but i might start doing that from now on
dull yacht
+33% just isn't worth it for me, playing with randoms. When they could be awful. At least on haz 4 I'm confident I can carry if they're incompetent or just new
glass socket
To me, since EED's are a full week event, they should be head and shoulders above haz5 concerning difficulty.
EDD*
junior fossil
iirc the last part of the EDD was estimated to be slightly harder than haz5
hence dubbed haz5.5
storm bison
@dull yacht Hopping on lower hazards means more noobs as well and tbh i don't mind those usually they are super happy that we do machine events and all and sometimes i give them some advice
The only occasion when it becomes a problem is when you encounter the dreaded mute and deaf newbie that start pushing any button he can find
dull yacht
I'll take noobs in h4 over kick-happy tryhards in h5 every time.
static hound
Every week, someone who feels EDD is too easy every week and needs big difficulty adjustments....and someone who feels EDD is pretty challenging enough for the average difficulty of whats expected out of the game
if your team is very competent, it wont matter what classes they are playing or the loadouts they are using, they're gonna clear it without breaking a sweat thanks to the speed and efficiency and effort they're all putting in and equally distributing the burdens across the team rather than it falling on the most experienced player to have to struggle and carry. The entire thing will feel like 3 regular haz5 missions as the missions themselves are hardly unique (which is a topic itself on the design of the end game content)
feral atlas
The difficulty of the EDD is nearly always wholly derived from the lower quality of the playerbase that queues for it. It will always be like this.
You can often tell if you're going to win or lose on the first loading screen.
wraith shard
hey guys remember the edive from 2(ish) weeks ago?
haunted aquaros dreadnaught on stage 3?
yeah fuck that. edive this week is just one-two-fuck-you
uncut raptor
oh yeah that one was horrible
junior fossil
I loved that one though
dull yacht
And yet I passed that one first time. All about the team.
junior fossil
I love ghost + dread
junior fossil
I just did a ghost dread with low grave, and had a gold bulk spawn, followed by a normal bulk that blow up an egg
fighting enemies while kiting a ghost is fun
fringe kettle
As was pointed out at the beginning of the year. There's no more infinite iron will. What you're seeing now for EDD difficulty is the same as it was months ago. The only difference is going down hurts the team a lot more.
dull yacht
A hundred times this^
static sapphire
so whats the EDD this week?
junior fossil
yup if you know how to aim at weakspot the first one is the hardest, if you dont deal with the flys... well...
thats how people wipe on the 2nd one
waxen mist
you know, i'd find EDDs a lot easier if grouping up a team wasn't so difficult
quiet wyvern
and maybe experts who know how to survive a haz 5 p.e with a Mactera plague
or haz 5 mactera plagues in general
versed willow
It is called moving to one side while maintaining enough distance from the actual mactera to allow yourself enough time to dodge the projectiles.
junior fossil
oddly enough EDD is easier solo/dou
less spawns and less chaos
interestingly enough, the game treats solo and duo the same, both in scaling and enemy count
waxen mist
really now? interesting
lusty yoke
if i were to do the EDD solo, what character do you recommend? I was thinking engi or driller
junior fossil
both are good, driller proly has a better time on the 2nd stage
slender hamlet
how does deep dive work?
lusty yoke
ok, ill give cryo driller a shot for the edd then
quiet wyvern
Which characters work best for an EDD duo, I saw someone do engi and gunner before on one, and they beat it too
glacial tusk
Depends on the EDD? Engi Scout is always a speedy combo for mobile objectives
waxen mist
@slender hamlet You unlock Deep Dives and Elite Deep Dives (shortened to DD and EDD) when you first promote any class. They consist of 3 missions, one after the other, and your current health, ammo and nitra carry over from one stage to the next
slender hamlet
thanks
waxen mist
Bonus objects like machine events, cargo crates and lost gear don't spawn, and neither do crafting materials
The only way to get them in E/DD is via hoarders
another thing is that bonus objectives are instead replaced by normal, mandatory objectives
you need to beat both to complete the stage. These include morkite mining, dreadnought killing, egg collecting, minimule fixing and black box recovering
that last one behaves like an uplink does in salvage missions
one last thing is that the periodic swarms and nitra spawn rates are based off of the first and main objective
meaning that if your first objective is egg collection and the second one is morkite mining, you will recieve no periodic swarms
and if the first objective is aquarc extraction and the secondary objective is dreadnought killing, you'll recieve the point extraction periodic swarms as well as the point extraction increased nitra spawn rate
@slender hamlet hope that helps!
slender hamlet
im sure it will
quiet wyvern
Gonna try a duo on the EDD with Blinky, 3rd attempt to beat it overall, wish us luck
vagrant oak
Think I'd rather solo than duo the EDD š
quiet wyvern
I can't solo them, it's not my style
wraith shard
Bosco is bae
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graceful bolt
Hello there dwarf brothers, Im a cowardly newly promoted driller/gunner/scout and I dont know how deep dives work
pls
help me brothers
fringe kettle
Basically there's 3 missions in series where your status at the end of one mission carries over to the start of another. Seeds are generated on Thhursday each week and the dive will remain the same for the whole week. Completing a stage gives a reward of matrix cores. Stage 1: blank core. Stage 2: weapon OC. Stage 3: Cosmetic. DD is going to be your easier one and the EDD is going to be your harder one.
you get one reward set per week. So if you complete the DD and get all 3 cores, you can't get those rewards again from the DD that week.
graceful bolt
Oh
So DDs are just 3 simultaneous missions, back to back?
That doesnt seem too hard, what dwarf is most recommended?
fringe kettle
well 3 missions with 2 primary objectives. So you could get something like 10 aquarqs with 150 morkite. Difficulty for DD goes 3-3.5-3.5 EDD goes 4.5-5-5.5
quiet wyvern
@fringe kettle i could use another player like yourself to tackle Elite Dives, mind if i add you?
fringe kettle
sure, but I'm preoccupied with some of my projects
quiet wyvern
Well i meant to say a later time, but alright
fringe kettle
probably tomorrow
quiet wyvern
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plucky bison
restive idol
Stage 2 of the EDD just kicked my ass
Fought the Dreadnaught in the WRONG room and a macteria hoard spawned...
left nest
anyone keen to run the EDD?>
static hound
good shit harpmony you giving out good tips
zinc token
The keen ppl to run EDD's are people who consistently play on Haz 4/5. I keep attempting EDD's but right now stage 2 from what people are saying is kicking ass
PE on an EDD is just rubbish unless its stage 1. PE gets increasingly hard as time goes on with more frequent swarms however for some reason the PE stages in deep dives take the whole DD timer as the time taken on the PE. Basically if your on stage 3 and get a Point Extraction the game will think you have taken 30mins on the PE and give you non stop swarms on Haz 5.5 difficulty
hollow pawn
call me for EDD, i need to do it too but this hotfix seems to be dropping people out of the game
zealous crown
would you guys recommended doing the aquarqs first or the dreadnaught first? me and my friends attempted the EDD for the first time last night and almost had stage 2 down but we made some stupid mistakes near the end. Pretty confident we'll get it today though
hollow pawn
do dread after 1st swarm
zealous crown
we tried that on our 3rd attempt and that was the one we almost beat it on, so seems like that works well to just get it done with
hollow pawn
as quickly as possible because the wave frequency increases
so sooner = more time gap to kill it
uncut raptor
yeah get as much of the aquarq as you can, then do dread after first swarm
hollow pawn
ffs i cleared stage 2 and all went down on the fucking mining expedition
tons of mactera in stage 3 despite no warning
grabbers too
meager tinsel
If any has a super good suggestion, I think the only character I have trouble with is Scout, does anyone know any solid builds and overclocks to try ? Throw me an @
foggy forge
@meager tinsel I know one thing about scout, and that is the cryogernades are actually REALLY useful. They can be used to easily take out large targets quickly and cleanly such as praetorians, spitballers, and nexus broods (unless said target takes multiple nades). They insta-kill clumps of macteras (which can save your teams bacon). They insta-kill breeders (which can also save your teams bacon). They have some advantages over pheromenes on grunt swarms in that they allow you to clear out a clump with less ammo (and scout struggles with ammo, he's more utilitarian than offensive). Pheromones are still better for revives, but cryo CAN get the job done.
meager tinsel
Duly noted !
I wish the pheromones helped clear swarms but it's more a distraction,,, the bugs don't do even a fraction of the damage to eachother for such a short period of time and it seems like most of them still chase me
foggy forge
yay it got noted!
@meager tinsel oh oh, I know another thing. The hoverclock Overclock (which suspends the player midair when aiming down sights) on the sniper rifle is actually a bit of a game changer when it comes to mining/collecting stuff for the team. You no longer need to wait for the engineer to platform fossils n such since you can grapple to the item, grab it, then hover to break your fall. Speaking of which I personally prefer the sniper rifle as a keyboard/mouse player... but I dont know what madness other people come up with
also, the hoverclock is a great safety net in case a grapple goes south, and being a more reliable dwarf is great for the whole team
real timber
uncut raptor
if you time the hoverclock just right, you can land from any height and never take fall damage
since the slow down affects your movement during the focus and if you land during it, you won't take fall damage
it's tricky to pull off, but doable
ancient shore
compact rock
anyone have any advice for the current deep dive, my girlfriend and I have died at it probably 10 times
vagrant oak
the elite or regular?
compact rock
regular
vagrant oak
Are you NA? I'd be happy to help
compact rock
yeah but were done playing for the night if you are available tomorrow that would be great
vagrant oak
if you play about this time, sure.
compact rock
it will be a couple hours earlier
vagrant oak
thats fine
compact rock
ok cool ill add you to my friends list on here, thanks
wet holly
so I guess the plan for the EDD is just, speedrun the first stage so the second one sucks a little less?
anybody who's completed it, how fast was your stage 1 if you remember that
vagrant oak
uh does time really matter in deep dives?
versed willow
If it has point extraction, yeah.
vagrant oak
Hmm, never considered that. Never had an issue either
I just assumed it didn't use the overall mission time for that and just the level time, which isnt shown
left osprey
hey so this has probably been answered before but I'm still new to deep dives - they only have one reward set of matrixes per week, right? Does that mean if you do it again, you get a different set or do you get nothing? i.e. is there a point to doing it more than once per week?
fringe kettle
You get one reward set. You can play say the regular deep dive again, but if youāve already beet it for that week then you get nothing.
left osprey
ok thanks! Are the rewards the same for everyone or randomised for each person?
fringe kettle
I think theyāre entirely random per person. The only uniformity is youāll get a blank core then an overclock then a cosmetic.
left osprey
ok cool, thank you!
static hound
yeah fight dread after first swarm to get it out of the way, have engineer create a roof in the middle area so you guys can fight under it during a swarm and have cover from the airforce if you're having trouble, be efficient mining nitra and using stuff to clear the swarms quickly, there are aquarqs past dread egg area, dont die to the triple grabbers at the start of the phase, try to finish the first mission quickly, bring the right weapons or tools that allow you to kill whatever you are having trouble with on stage 2
also lots of tips if you scroll up from people asking the same question
lone burrow
ok thanks
celest oasis
recommended you finish the dread and quarks before the 4th wave annoucement (ideally if fast finish just after 2nd wave or 3rd wave), then push button to signal extraction
if you let it drag on too long you'll run out of ammo
meager tinsel
The second phase was kinda tough but doable, it took a couple tries but I think we managed, if you get past it the third phase is a breeze and a half, it has LOADS of nitre if I remember correctly
scarlet sage
Yea but its in closed quarters, not much room, you canĀ“t take it lightly. We met a detonator with a wave and it was realy no fun ^^
meager tinsel
I think what worked best was getting as much nitre and aquarks as we could right off the bat until one Management Swarm came
After it was done we IMMEDIATELY hit the dreadnaught and had to be super aggressive, it felt like it took a lot more damage than usual to knock it
After that it was just rush for nitre and aquarks
Drilled directly to every auxiliary room with the driller, no running trying to find entrances
grouped up to protect driller during that
And it wassssss rough right out the pod too, had engie lure the bugs, gunner shield on minehead to clear that first wave, it was kinda bananas
aUnless I'm thinking about last weeks EDD in which case ignore me
short charm
I was rather surprised, the EDD only took two attempts to finish with a bunch of randoms. And two of them were at like, a single bronze or single silver star. Double Scout (Me as the host Scout), Engineer and a Gunner. No driller. Took out the Dread on the second stage before the first wave could spawn, after that it was pretty easy to just finish the rest of the dive. We did lose the first run on the second stage, we kind of messed up the first stage and went into the second one with like half our ammo gone and not enough for a resupply, so it was tough going from the very start. Revive, go down, revive, go down, revive, go down, alright, stabilized, resupplied, Dread, immediate wave spawn, GG. But, armed with knowledge, the second run was the winner.
So it's absolutely doable. I'd say that the one with the Dread + Ghost + Point Extraction two weeks ago was more trouble than this one.
My setup for this EDD was: GK2 + Bullets of Mercy (450 bullets, Stun), Boomstick with Compact Shells (38 ammo, Blowthrough, Fear the Boomstick) and Cryo grenades.
quiet wyvern
Well just had my 3rd failure on the EDD, my friend even said "we got this" smh we absolutely did not
storm bison
got first time with a friend we opened the lobby
and the peps were more than decent
Even managed to survive the dread during a swarm
storm bison
Tho i did goofed one time by killing myself with the special powder and launching myself into the gunners moloov
quiet wyvern
maybe I am just not meant to beat this EDD, can never seem to get it right
static hound
Just keep trying and dont burn out on it. You already get the rewards per stage beaten and the last stage is just a cosmetic reward which isn't that valuable.
Yeah wiseduck but at the same time, promotion level isnt an indicator at all of skill level/performance level at all. The more competent your team is the easier everything is for every person and overall the mission becomes even easier
vagrant oak
Doesn't help how easy it is to cheat levels. promo/levels mean shit all overall
All time indicators mean is expected level of knowledge.
fringe kettle
they do if you can see total game hours
it's roughly a 1:2 ratio player rank:hours ingame
it ain't perfect, but lets you know if their rank is worth something
vagrant oak
I have a fuck ton of idle time lol
so mines not really accurate
that and someones level:hours can be off purely because they stalled promotions
for instance my friends like blue 50 and yet has like 3x my hours
versed willow
I am 666 since I stopped promoting but I have near 2k hours (1k on Steam and 1k on Windows Store). So, yeah, makes sense.
fringe kettle
I can see why you'd never want to change that
static hound
well the other thing loan ranger is that time doesnt translate to skill/performance/experience in a way we can really measure either
nevermind that they might just not be giving it their all or just "having a bad day"
fringe kettle
no it doesn't, but it's better than nothing and more to identify if someone actually spent time getting their rank or just modified a save file.
vagrant oak
Nothing is perfect, but they all add some context.