I suppose i can deal with it with the jumbo shells and compact ammo
#deep-dive-discussion
storm bison
zinc socket
I don't have icestorm for cryo yet, only overclock I have for it is snowball, and ... I think that one isn't dependable
storm bison
Havn't tried this one yet
zinc socket
I am determined to pull off this dive solo
rotund ivy
@lunar musk ?
strong jungle
He spammed this in every single chat
strong jungle
the mods are fast
storm bison
Well maybe it was also a scam who knows
stone tulip
playing dd second map with a shitty internet host was stressful as fuck..
almost couldnt get in the pod cuz i kept teleporting around
storm bison
Lol
stone tulip
not again
storm bison
Are you sure it's the host ?
stone tulip
more like a general region problem
connecting from hong kong to mainland china has always been shitty
low ping but ridiculously high packet loss
storm bison
Oh dear yeah given the area i can understand
storm bison
No i don't think they add up
zinc socket
okay, nope, going to do this with friends insetad... just way too many of these bulk dets in area two of the DD... how bad is area 3 anyway?
storm bison
Solo edd ?
thorny geyser
even though half the team were bronze greenbeards, they did good
nah, four dwarves
thorny geyser
good greenbeard experience
storm bison
Yeah that's the thing if this one is easier then it's an excellent way to introduce them
to edds
plucky gate
So, I saw the mission types, modifiers and locations this morning
What do the peeps say about this weeks double D's?
Ez, medium, hard?
Hell on Earth?
junior fossil
normal DD ez, EDD below medium
random path
normal is super easy
vast valve
normal ez edd ehhh
the worst part is honestly the first, sooo many projectiles
and 2 of the most dastardly-placed cave leeches
second stage of the normal dive is almost absurdly vertical
ezpz for solo scout but gunner will have problems without a driller or engy
lament pecan
Wow this week's edd was ridiculously easy
willow tulip
Yeah, no salvage or PE too
hollow pier
hey guys im looking to buy this game is there something i should know before getting into it? is there loot / progress built into the game?
limber storm
ask this in #drg-chat will get more replies
but in short, yes there's progress
cosmetics and upgrades to buy, and cosmetics to find randomly
hollow pier
@limber storm Thank you!
limber storm
np
quiet wyvern
a lot of people will say that EDD's are easy, but it's just so impossible for others
storm bison
I mean when you have been playing drg for months
It get easier
You have access to all of the perks all of the mods and ocs
Ofc it will be easier
wooden skiff
how are the EDD's this week?
storm bison
Well there is no PE and it's macteras and regen bugs
Fairly easy and the 1st stage has an anomaly but no mutators
thorny geyser
PE as last stage isnt so bad as long as scout and driller dont move like slugs and engie/gunner keep their killing pants on
storm bison
True True
Also i think they changed something with deep dives pe
Like before it was the total deep dive timer that was taken into account the the spawn rate of the PE so you would start with endless spawn from the get go
I don't feel like it's the case anymore
Didn't felt like that last week
fringe kettle
most of the EDDs aren't bad if your teammates don't take forever to perform the tasks at hand. You can't sit still and do nothing and expect to get by. You gotta pull your weight or the whole team suffers.
storm bison
Some of the edds were like that though
You could still stop and type out of edd topic stuff
static hound
bronze "greenbeards"? promotion level hardly indicates their experience
lament pecan
a lvl 50 "greenbeard" that has played haz5 since completing the assignment is wayyy better than a lvl 500 who mostly plays on haz 3/4
polar storm
This dde was allot easier to solo, hated that mactera plague tough. I barely pulled it trough 
zinc token
Oh god yeah at least they take x2 fire damage I think
polar storm
Ye i think that too
zinc token
My minigun is massively built to swarm control to the point I can hold back swarms on my own but macteras screw me up
polar storm
Tough luck.
zinc token
Yeah luckily my teammates try to cover that
I keep the glypids off us and they keep the Macteras off me, works pretty good
polar storm
Yus
midnight spindle
Deep dive stage 2 has a good layout. Very interesting.
fallow palm
Fairly easy and the 1st stage has an anomaly but no mutators
@storm bison What does 'PE' mean?
next pebble
Point extraction
tawdry lodge
Well, EDD was going well
Few downs here and there
But the moment we got to that huge hole room in stage 3, a mactera swarm spawned
And then the dreadnaught showed up.....
west nest
oof, people trying to powerlevel their bronze 1 characters in elite dives is the last thing i need
stone sluice
tried like 5 times to do an elite deep dive online, but always failed
tried it once as a solo elite deep dive and did it first try, did take me a while though XD
versed willow
limber quartz
so how is the edd stages looking this week?
versed willow
I played driller for this one because the other classes were taken.
I got obliterated. I really just can't kill anything on him at the same rate as gunner or engineer and I was constantly out of ammo on Subata. Just going to have to just not play him anymore for the dives.
frail zodiac
sticky flames me düd
nova frost
what weapons should i use for scout in a deep dive?
lament pecan
literally all 4 are good
personal preference mostly
g2k bom is popular
i personally like m1k blowthrough electrocution
static hound
use the weapons you are most effective at using for the hardest difficulty
brittle fractal
lament pecan
eternal plinth
Driller sticky flames=god
You just have to get used to shooting at anything the enemy might walk on instead of the enemy itself
And kite
versed willow
I was using the unstable sticky flame OC with slowdown and max duration, just wasn't that useful for this EDD.
vapid monolith
Was it just me or was this DD much harder than last week?
The second stage was painful to get through with the bulk detonator in those small tunnels and Karl help you if the team was in the well
junior fossil
I usually solo EDD with sticky flames + bouncy EPC
bouncy EPC is great vs the fly boys
wraith shard
@junior fossil is there any difficulty variance with only one person in?
static hound
the game does scale depending on how many players are in the game, both in hp of enemies and swarm size etc
junior fossil
solo also means you can fully rearm twice with every supply drop
but you would have a limited number of times you can go down depending on how you mod bosco
a good tip would be to keep the mining skill on bosco as he can bring you heavy loads like eggs from hard to reach areas
also taking a team based active would be pointless so you need to take a 2nd active that isnt field medic or shield link
uncut raptor
usually when i play solo i go with hover boots + beast master or dash
exotic oxide
I want to like dash but I always forget to use it
And then trigger it by accident at random times
uncut raptor
yeah it's a bit clunky
junior fossil
highten senses can save you aswell, iron will can end up as an extra revive
exotic oxide
To be honest, see you in hell is rather nice for solo
Bosco's scare happens at the start of the revive, so enemies are usually back on top of you by the time you're up
But see you in hell keeps them off you for a good while
junior fossil
it can also kill some of the enemies on you
exotic oxide
most
junior fossil
I really like it on driller for the passive though
wind nest
uncut raptor
who needs scouts anyway
wind nest
There 'was' a scout he left about 10mins into the first mission after being downed, he didnt bother to light up the room or anything 
wind nest
thorny geyser
I always welcome competent scouts.
inner void
Just did the EDD, first mission was a cakewalk
the second mission was only hard because we took too long to pop the eggs and the room ended up being more crevasse than floor
The third was tough, the macteras weren't so bad but the goo bombers were killer because it's a mining map and there isn't a lot of room
it was close and it took an iron will but we escaped with all 4 dwarves
polar swallow
wow. what the hell is up with DD stage 2 this week?! 😂
really tight/vertical map and then a bulk detonator spawns as soon as i pop the dreadnaught?
bold arrow
Just finished my first deep dive with a team and it was awesome. even if there was a bulk detonator or two. 😁
quiet wyvern
Anyone still struggling to finish/ or haven't beaten the Deep dives this week, I am willing to help those who need to get them done. Not gonna say i'm a pro, but i'm experienced enough to assist with getting the job done
clear dune
Has it been suggested to allow dwarves to kick their flares on the ground after they've been thrown?
static hound
Yeah dax, the thing is that happens to everyone, I think its scripted to spawn a detonator on a timer thats random around the dreadnaught spawn, so if you kill it fast it might be separate
ashen mist
I tried out a new build that was fun
It was Crisper. With the Extra Heat mod and two Ammo mods.
It was nice
I felt like i had too much ammo
and I could BURN the foul xeno easier
static hound
yeah I use two ammo mods, I like it on haz 5
when ammo can be scarce because people arent managing it well enoughj
mystic mason
what is scout meta atm?
austere pond
m1000 boomstick
storm bison
gk2 bullet of mercy with boomstick
id say m1k and gk2 are both meta
Boomstick as well
Zukhovs maybe not
austere pond
If you're solo you can go gk2
But in a team, you'll contribute way more with m1000
Boomstick is really good
For m1000 OCs go for either green ammo or supercooling
limber storm
dont go supercooling
austere pond
Tho ammo is generally better
limber storm
the downsides are too big
austere pond
But supercooling does delete stuff
limber storm
also takes longer
austere pond
It shreds dreadnoughts
limber storm
and if you miss you lose a lot more
since you have less ammo
waaay to risky for the reward
austere pond
And pretty much everything else
limber storm
ammo is the way to go
austere pond
If you're confident in your aim(or just think you're not bad, game isn't really punishing) you can try supercooling
limber storm
especially if we're talking meta, ammo allows you to use it on all sorts of stuff, supercooling you can only shoot really big ones
austere pond
But yea, ammo is better overall
limber storm
its too crippling
austere pond
Ehhh
I'd say you can still shoot medium enemies with supercooling, just take ammo upgrade
Unless you're used to just spamming your m1000 at every passing grunt you won't run out of ammo fast
limber storm
supercooling is still a bad choice, your damage is doubled, but your ammos are almost halved, and you take twice as long to shoot as well as not being able to move while focusing
austere pond
Even with ammo upgrade on first row still allows you to 1 tap grunts
limber storm
so the only upside is a tiny bit more damage overall
your dps isnt increased, if we dont take reload in consideration
wind nest
Always good to take supercooling when in a team
though bullets of mercy is darn good also
limber storm
if you know and are sure the rest of your team can deal with everything else for you then yeah why not take supercooling
but its a very risky choice
wind nest
high risk - big rewards
limber storm
definitely not something i recommend if you want to be efficient
well not really thats the thing
thats why its considered a pretty bad oc
your dps isnt increased
if you miss you just take more time to shoot again
as well as not being able to move
copper cove
Warning, there's a leaf eater going by the name of "Dylan" )probably changed by now) Tking at the end of deep dives.
devout acorn
What are you guys' Gk2 and boomstick builds?
storm bison
lemme see
Currently my two go to setups are
Gk2 compact ammo with 2,2,1,1,1 (you can switch tier 3 at your leisure)
Boomstick jumbo shells with 1,2,3,1,2 (though some people are saying fear is buggy apparently)
Second setup :
Gk2 bullets of mercy with 2,2,3,1,3
Boomstick special powder with 1,1,3,1,3 (carefull tho the oc is apparently bugged out if you are client)
Tho i am waiting for the next wave of balancing to redo all my loadouts
Seems to be soon ish apparently
devout acorn
Yeah that seems reasonable. I haven't used GK2 and boomstick in so long, finally tried them out with OC's and they're quite fun
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past valley
Question. I'm about to do my first normal Deep Dive. Anything I should be aware of?
clever crest
the main difference between a DD and 3 regular missions is that you retain ammo, health, and, more impoirtantly, nitra between stages.
so, try to find a healthy balance between wasted time and scouring for nitra on any given level.
entering a stage 3 with 500+ nitra feels almost godly.
you can do anything, spend anything, it's amazing.
brittle relic
knowing when to resup is key
sometimes its better to start the next mission and resup right away
static hound
that moment when people call down resupply at max ammo because they want to heal up only to go down a minute later
brittle relic
big brain plays
static hound
the bullets are for preventing health loss guys!!!
clever crest
i've grown up in a poor family, so the main struggle for me is resupping when i'm above mid in any tool.
like, 'what i can't use sup can now, i still have 1 extra nade to spend'
but overall when you try to even out your expenditure, and everything drops below half more or less at once, that's the perfect time.
spiral tapir
sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and tell yourself that if you don't resupply now you'll run out of ammo before your team needs any more and it'll be too long a walk back to get it then
wraith shard
I'm not sure where to put this but I can't play online at all. When ever I try to join from the server list it just spins and disappears. Anytime I try to join my friend it says "Multiplayer session ended". Idk what to do I've had a terrible time trying to get this to work. Any help is greatly appreciated.
silk knoll
@wraith shard maybe dumb question but drg might need to update?
wraith shard
I figured it out it was a teredo problem
wind nest
Have seen a fair few rando dwarves that never go for sugar
they rather use up a supply instead
waxen mist
was it just me or this week's EDD was slightly easier than last week's?
wind nest
easier indeed, considering it was magma core 🥔
wind nest
where the ground can eat you up
waxen mist
almost done with the third stage and a swarm arrives
dodging bullet hell of mactera spit when suddenly an earthquake happens and i'm legally obligated to slow down to a crawl
junior fossil
well could have been a pit opening under you too
waxen mist
i've learned to dodge them
wind nest
cryo grenade 💯
waxen mist
the pits opening up under me isn't an issue to me, my main thing is the slowdown
sandblaster corridors and glacial strata atleast just disable your sprint, which is okay
but why do the earthquakes halt you like that jeez
you can't even predict or dodge the slowdown
wind nest
The hazards of deep core mining 
waxen mist
all worth it for those sweet sweet overclocks
which i can't even craft because jadiz crisis and me having absolutely no croppa
anyhow, what classes do you guys use for your deep dives?
solo deep dives
spiral tapir
I don't do solos much, but if I did I'd probably go with engi
spiral tapir
Ditto, been looking for a good time that hasn't come yet
might try to duo it with a friend but I'd want to know what the setup for it is so I can deal with the awful lag that we always get for some reason in advance planning
and if engi/scout works
junior fossil
this weeks EDD wasnt too bad, even though it is magama
slate pine
was pretty overall easy elite dive this week
thorny geyser
this week's edd was pretty easy all in all
did it with buncha greenbeard and they did absolutely fine
inland turret
idk i wiped twice on the edd both on stage 2. we got fucked by RNG both times, one gave us a spawn during our dreadnaught and then gave us a bulk on top of that. after cussing at rngesus tried running it again wiped exact same spot due to exact same thing except this time it spawned 2 bulks right on top of each other just as a big "fuck you" right back to us XD lmfao
gonna try and run it again
jaunty summit
is there an option to make the mule not follow you everywhere
mystic mason
what is the current scout meta?
frail zodiac
yes
fringe kettle
well I'd say at the bare minimum anything except phero. Cryo and IFG are both a lot more useful right now.
static hound
shrug, I switched and never looked back
dont need no phero grenade to get the job done
OGFASA its supposed to spawn a bulk around a certain timing, maybe you guys should just rush the dreadegg right after the swarm when spawning in
storm bison
@lament pecan check the last experimental changelog
storm bison
It was
You could still see the green goop effect
It's just that now since there isn't too many bugs getting pulled any trigger happy engy will probably blast the nade effect in one BC attack
lament pecan
wat
im confused
from my experience, the problem was that i would throw a phero into a group of like 10 grunts, and 3 grunts would still continue to chase me even though they all pretty much had the yellow-ish phero effect
like even in groups of 3-4
phero wouldn't work consistently
or it would be delayed
and only start pheroing after 3-4 seconds
storm bison
That's because of the way they changed ai behavior
Basically they keep you as the target since you are the closest one
So you basically need to throw de nade then skedaddle in the other direction
lament pecan
ooh
hmm
so its not a bug with phero
just a change to ai which indirectly hit phero with a double-whammy
interesting
ill give phero another try and see if it works if i throw it from long range
static hound
its like lure
weak condor
ive not done a deep dive before, should i just jump in or should I be looking up meta builds first?
static hound
just jump in
regular deep dive is hazard 3/3.5/4 or something
the only difference is, instead of a "secondary" obj, its a primary type objective, resources carry over, and its 3 maps long
weak condor
alright cool
weak condor
fuck that was tense
steep finch
I also just did my first deep dive. Went pretty okay, no real problems or fuckups
how much more difficult is the elite one?
bitter garnet
Normal Deep Dive is Hazard 3 / 3.5 / 3.5
EDD is 4.5 / 5 / 5.5
In other words, are you able to do Hz5 without a problem?
If yes, you can do EDD.
left nest
plucky gate
Moving as quickly as possible while grabbing as much nitra as you can, at least enough for 1 resupply going into next level
And honestly, don't bother with gold.
static hound
yeah its the same strats for any high risk haz 5 mission, like lethal haz5 or oxygen or parasites
fast, manage resources, use resources if needed otherwise save them for that rainy day, mine only what matters, leave people down if you can get to the drop pod without them, stick together, communicate, fight together and choose the right places to fight
plucky gate
@static hound sorry but you're wrong
Theres one aspect of your strategy that is bad
LEAVE NO DWARF BEHIND!
deft kite
please do leave dwarf behind
don't go back for this one guy who died 19 times during the dd
austere pond
Because of EDD timer I'd say the critical difference between them and h5 is that rushing is mandatory to survive
So don't bother with gold, get all nitra on your way, do objectives and proceed to next level
deft kite
@left nest
group for waves in a spot that's easy to defend and easy to escape from
nitra is the most important mineral
keep your hp full
don't call ressuply in bad spots
friendly fire is actually a thing
do obj don't fuck around
thorny geyser
DD stage 2 was nice and vertical
took some planning to make an escape route without driller
thorny geyser
leave no gold behind, we got nice score of 1100 gold in DD
mental basin
Elite DD (hosting eu) Pod 7
lament pecan
@storm bison nope pretty sure phero is just bugged lol
i was at least 10m away from bugs
and they just keep comin
maybe a couple stopped to fight each other
storm bison
Really ? Well Damn
storm bison
Might be worth a try to hop in the experimental channel to talk about it
untold haven
what's the EDD this week?
storm bison
Haven't checked yet
hybrid marten
1st - 6 eggs, and hollowmite
2nd- 2 dreadnoughts, 2 eggs,
3rd - 2 mules, hollowmite
magma area
1st regen, 2nd ? , 3rd mactera plague
fallen briar
So I get that this probably isn't the biggest issue in the world, but the deep dive loading screen is driving me absolutely bonkers. As seen in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQOzDxmzT40 the depth value displayed near the blip that represents the drop pod starts out positive, indicating that we are above our depth reference datum. Then at 1:52 it reaches 0, meaning that we have arrived at our depth reference datum, but this location seems so arbitrary to select as a reference datum and it's driving me mad. The reference should be back up at mean sea level or ground level, so that value should always be getting increasingly negative as we get deeper. The current depth datum could potentially be the target depth, but even then, target depth shouldn't really be set as a depth datum and if it is, then the loading screen shows us surpassing that target depth. It bugs me every time I look at it lol
lament pecan
lol
fallen briar
These are the issues that matter
static hound
sorry kiki management only promotes dwarves who dont die so I adhere strictly to their operating procedures so I can be promoted to a leadership position for the sole purpose of giving life insurance to all dwarves employed by DRG
proven eagle
can i reset my perks?
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static hound
i dont think so but there are more milestones than perks available
uncut raptor
glad i did the edd before the hotfix that was released just now
dire latch
Finished my first EDD. I just wanted to see if I could do first mission solo for that matrix core.
I haven't even finished a single haz5 mission yet so I guess I'm ready to try those too 😛
spiral tapir
yeah, there's 43 extra points than perks IIRC
copper girder
i might need some help for solo speedrun elite deep dive, any help?
as the mission control said, theres only 24 hours left
slate crane
Hi what are these circle vault looking things in the grounds of the mule missions?
lilac patio
DISCUSSION! Should flashlights be buffed? What do you people think? Yes or Yes? Only yes answers are permited 🙂
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lament pecan
DISCUSSION! Should flashlights be buffed? What do you people think? Yes or Yes? Only yes answers are permited 🙂
lilac patio
Yes, I do agree with your suggestions, my dear fellow miner 🙂
rich tiger
I certainly wouldn’t mind a stronger light
thorny geyser
but thats what scout is for
rich tiger
The headlamp isn’t going to light up a whole cave
celest stirrup
What's the go to nade for scout nowadays?
versed willow
IFG
lament pecan
cryo still gud for freebie revives
tropic flame
Anyone up for an end of week deep dive?
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uncut raptor
alright lads, lemme know what the dd and edd missions are so i can put them in my archive
Deep Dive is in Dense Biozone
Elite Deep Dive is in Glacial Strata
will attempt a solo DD now
wary meadow
hmm my deep dives still show last weeks and the countdown timer is negative lol
uncut raptor
restart the game
midnight spindle
Why does the EDD say glacial strata when it's in the magma core?
deft olive
Should be pretty easy, thanks for posting
midnight spindle
No it says they're this weeks. I'm even getting new blank cores for them.
Deep dive machine broke
uncut raptor
weird lol
midnight spindle
It says glacial strata on the terminal but when I go in it's magma core
deft olive
Were you ingame when it rolled over? Because that usually causes issues and you should just restart the game
bitter garnet
EDD incoming
austere pond
https://i.imgur.com/wfCTUJr.png EDD(LAST STAGE PE WARNING)
golden gazelle
PE on 3rd stage w/ Low 02
Urgh..
golden gazelle
Oh, and EDD too..
ripe dust
whats PE
golden gazelle
Point Extraction
uncut raptor
ty for the edd missions
plucky gate
EDD is glacial, what is DD? Dense bio?
Oop
Just saw max said it
@uncut raptor thanks bruv
uncut raptor
np
fair warning with the PE on the DD, the morkite is in awkward spots
shouldn't be a problem if you're playing with a team or solo as scout, but i always do these as driller
so it was a bit of a pain trying to get to the morkite
ripe dust
Is it me or are the deep dives getting easier? We need an Elite Plus version now at hazard 5.5
zinc token
The final stage of the EDD is pretty hard with the horror putting that pressure on.
The DD stage 3 the low O2 really isn't too bad a problem the aquars are in decent spots
hollow wasp
first stages were easy on the EDD but then we got wiped by two bulks right after getting of the droppot
deft kite
enjoy this week 3rd stage edd lol
vast valve
glacial strata 3rd stage PE/dread with haunted cave
deft kite
if you want to sort out leaf lovers it's pretty good
vast valve
the jellies are the worst part honestly
deft kite
jellies ?
vast valve
the shocking things
deft kite
naedocyte lol
vast valve
a friend of mine calls them brain blasts cuz they look like brains
deft kite
well they have that metroid-ish feeling
narrow sage
3rd try on this week's EDD, 3rd fail at last zone, It's pretty tough
To be fair, I always started as 4 and ended up as 2, last gunner left because we said we don't pick up gold
uncut raptor
what kind of leaf lover were they???
there is no reason to mine gold in deep dives at all, unless you have pots o' gold
wraith shard
They need to lower the spawn rated!
i mean 3 waves at the same time?
Over kill much??
uncut raptor
needs more waves
wraith shard
the misson Point Extraction in deep dive is just over kill with soo many enemies spanw in can we pls ! lower it
lament pecan
haunted cave monkaS
wraith shard
2 negative attribute!, non stop swam spawning, 2 radom detonatiors and the map complex is just!! F****
naive bramble
that last cave
merry solstice
Yeah, it's a doozy.
shut cypress
thorny geyser
third stage in EDD is rough
three tries, three fails
but to be honest, our scout said she was playing on someone elses account and didnt know exactly what to do
i feel like its another gunner carry dig
gotta kill and gotta kill fast
or you get swamped
quiet wyvern
That's pretty, I try to host a lobby for the EDD, and my first player that i got, was Chinese! I want Americans not foreigner's, like hello?
thorny geyser
lol
lament pecan
well you're playing on asian tz
quiet wyvern
I most certainly am not!
lament pecan
you definitely are
quiet wyvern
a least not since i last checked
lament pecan
its 3
eastern
and 11 west
actually i guess not chinese tz
hmm
european tz?
yeah thats weird i guess
lament pecan
imagine living in central
quiet wyvern
Well i did play with some folks that live in Australia before
lament pecan
texas?
quiet wyvern
No Maine
quiet wyvern
I'm can't remember if i know anyone from Texas, but i know a couple of Australian people, as well as one from Spain
wind nest
EDD this week - easy?
fringe kettle
folks are saying stage 1-2 are easy, but stage 3 sucks. I'll take a look later.
wind nest
Ghosts + 
always makes it terrible
fringe kettle
the horror is laughingly easy to deal with. Just figure out who it's following then they kite it the entire time.
in general
thorny geyser
grabbing the aquarq isnt the problem either, unless scout and driller move like slugs
uncut raptor
is it best to deal with the dreadnought asap or get all the aquarq first?
thorny geyser
id say kill the dread first
tired elbow
yeah, it's right next to the minehead so getting it early means you don't risk popping it later
versed willow
I usually go for the dread after the first announced swarm.
feral atlas
Treat dreads like machine events
either do it after the 1st or 2nd swarm, like immediate
or mentally writ the game off as a loss
ashen sigil
Did anyone have an issue where they lost the ability to control the character on the third stage of the deep dive?
I loaded in and me and another person had an issue where no inputs were being accepted
Couldn't even press Esc
wind nest
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/636938619969470474/697913940713275482/unknown.png?width=1171&height=677 that last mission is just madness but pushed through 🥔
quiet wyvern
@wind nest How did you guys manage, we and my boys got cluster f'd!
soft nova
3rd mission made me failing twice after 1 hour + run. Feelsbadman... That cave is just some real shit
wind nest
@quiet wyvern we would have lost except, I had iron will 🥔 quick revived the scout and gunner - though by this time we had one more to cash in whilst a detonator, ghost and a 25% hp dreadnaught loitering about pretty manic!
we kinda used a quick tactic of gem capturing, I just drilled out the gems and threw them out for the others to bring up to the drill platform - 6 gems cashed then bought in the dreadnaught whilst I got the last one
volatile guts just makes it a bit easier, if you can group some of the grunts, you can group explode them
quiet wyvern
man, i never did any of that stuff, me and my team did it completely different
blazing current
First time doing edd, doing 2 man run
Game would've lost if my friend don't have last stand and red sugar nearby
Is there any worse combo than PE ghost dreadnought at level 3?
quiet wyvern
yes
limber storm
old lethal mactera
quiet wyvern
I've only tried the EDD once and failed stage 3
quiet wyvern
never got to the pod part, couldn't get the last jem 😦
too many bugs, and the whole cave in last stage is just s###, seriously!
pardon my french, but it's just not doable
limber storm
get you a good scout if you find one, and do the dread asap
a good scout can survive in PE forever
quiet wyvern
I don't know any
blazing current
I (scout) died in the end and my gunner is the one that ended it
quiet wyvern
lucky
blazing current
Phew I don't have to touch that mission again
limber storm
but PE on stage 3 is often quite hard
limber storm
so its not surprising you're having troubles with it
quiet wyvern
nor am i
chrome wolf
Last wave is screwed on this weeks EDD
*stage
The waves don't stop spawning
We had the final aquarq and then we lost
thorny geyser
i got some real good results with cryo grenades
quiet wyvern
this EDD is just beyond unbeatable
lament pecan
I got it after 4 tries 
limber storm
got it first try but we almost lost twice so yeah not the easiest
quiet wyvern
lucky, none of us other folk are having any luck with it
lament pecan
Bruh I got it on first try with lads at #lfg
quiet wyvern
your joking
limber storm
but a good scout can make a big difference when the edd is a bit painful
lament pecan
Doing this edd with randoms is so horrible lmao
limber storm
if its too painful tho he wont save the whole thing
tired elbow
I've failed twice trying to solo it with scout.
quiet wyvern
This is indeed "The" hardest EDD by far, at least in the final stage that is
lament pecan
Inb4 sub 20 speedrun time in the next 3 days
limber storm
um
tired elbow
It's hard solo, feels like you don't have any margin for error
limber storm
i wouldnt call it the hardest
limber storm
you ever experienced mactera plague with the old lethal enemies?
lament pecan
I mean you have 3 Bosco revives lol
acoustic temple
It's a little bit hectic but I don't think it's too bad, the first two are very easy
limber storm
back when lethal affected ranged enemies too
quiet wyvern
?
lament pecan
Pretty big room for error
limber storm
that was in one of the first deep dives
mactera and lethal on the same stage
extremely painful
blazing current
4 if you don't have self confidence
tired elbow
you'd be surprised how quickly those 3 revives go when you're trying to kite both a dreadnaught and a horror at the same time
blazing current
We did the dreadnought after we get the quarqz
By then it was already 4/5th swarm
limber storm
yeah i'd advise doing the dread asap
quiet wyvern
that's what my group tried, by maybe the 2nd wave we got it, and we then had all but 1 left by the 4th, but it got too overwhelming and we failed
acoustic temple
The thing that got me on my fail was the bulk spawn while fighting the dread and kiting the horror
lament pecan
Oof
blazing current
I had that too lol
quiet wyvern
yea, we had a bulk on my attempt too
blazing current
Waiting for the pod then bulk spawned
limber storm
yeah tho the one my team got got killed in 20 seconds
acoustic temple
I think rushing dread after thinning the first wave and then just playing kite simulator with a decent scout and good aoe on driller/gunner makes it pretty manageable
blazing current
First timer in EDD and done it first try
The damage was insane
One swarmer almost drained my shield
quiet wyvern
great
limber storm
the first edd is always one hell of an experience
acoustic temple
My first EDD took me like 7 tries and then I joined the discord and saw lots of people saying it's the hardest one it's been in months
Really toughened me up quick for the following weeks
quiet wyvern
i remember my first, it was a magma core one, did it first try as Gunner, solo
lament pecan
Soloing edd as Gunner sounds painful
chrome wolf
What is the final matrix core for this weeks EDD?
fringe kettle
for every single deep dive
stage 1 - blank core
stage 2 - weapon OC
stage 3 - cosmetic
If you have every item in either stage 2 or 3 then you get a blank core.
fringe kettle
they are not
the only pre set aspect is every deep dive will always follow the above drops.
chrome wolf
Ah
granite lantern
bruh
every fucking time a new deep dive come out
half the people are " this is one of the hardest deep dives ever!!! "
hoary sun
ok
static hound
the map is pretty jagged
people are pretty bad at point extraction
and the game doesnt tell you how the mechanics work for that map type
frail zodiac
not ez enough, you got a down there bud
mystic breach
So, I'm considering trying to solo Frozen Cover, what's part 2 and 3 like?
small pecan
you means the stage objectiv ? or the feeling about the cave ?
small pecan
stage 1 and 2 are easy and good feeling, the stage 3 is hard because the map is shit ^^
mystic breach
There's no Elim objectives, right?
small pecan
zinc token
Theres a couple of eliminate dreadnought objectives
small pecan
that's the image found her
zinc token
I completed the DD but the EDD I can't get stage 3 done, just 2 much
mystic breach
I've always struggled on soloing Dreadnaughts
That's my big challenge that I'm gonna have to overcome for this Deep Dive.
small pecan
what class do you use ?
small pecan
ok if you want to kill dreadnaught " fast" you can use the boomstick + jumbo shell OC to break the armor and finish with m1000
mystic breach
I don't have Jumbo Shell yet.
All the overclocks I get given are for the 2 classes I don't play. Driller and Gunner.
small pecan
unlucky ^^
mystic breach
Yeah. It's annoying when I keep rolling a 1 on every single overclock in the game. XD
junior fossil
personally I find soloing the EDD easiest on driller, as I can just dps everything down
small pecan
for the solo, scout is " bad" because he struggle to deal with the big wave but he is the fastest for speedrunning them
mystic breach
Well, considering my Driller is a whopping Promotion 0 level 4
That won't go well. XD
junior fossil
sounds like you need to try other class some more 😛
mystic breach
When I said "I don't play Driller" I meant I REALLY do not play Driller. XD
zinc token
Lmao yeah it wouldn't, I main gunner and stage 3 of the EDD is a gunner carry, has to shooteverything and shoot them fast
zinc token
Flamethrower is SOOOOO good at dealing with the constant swarmling swarms, the cryo cannon is brill if you can coordinate it
My mate uses the cryo cannon and will mark anything he has frozen for me to decimate
junior fossil
tbh for solos EDD stage 3 is bosco carry, because he can antigrav the all the way
ivory sundial
Can we please change the deep dive rules so that the player may join them if they have at least 1 promoted character, but not require a promoted character to be played..
normal deep dive is easy AF... you dont need a promoted character... maybe elite deep dive..
so right now I have to choose between wasting xp by playing a promoted character and thus not leveling my non promoted characters, or not gaining either assignment progress or matrix cores...
plucky gate
Just get your character promoted real quick?
Also, you could promote all your other characters too
These are both solutions
uncut raptor
it's best to promote every dwarf atleast once
ivory sundial
The progression in the game puts me in a situation where I have all my assignments done BEFORE I have all my chars promoted
So then you either can't play deep dives or waste xp
of course
I only played my promoted chars when I was forced to by the team comp safeguard when joining
so I was almost always leveling my unpromoted chars
So I have minimal wasted xp
and still I run out of assignments before reaching 25 with all characters
So I can't combine leveling my unpromoted chars with core farming..
eternal plinth
How are you wasting xp? Xp is literally the solution to your problem.
Level your characters and promote them, the game is casual enough
wind nest
Not really fussed with the stars, am all on silver but as long as a dwarf plays the class well its all good
ie scout not using flares or bothering to mine when there is a platform, or a engie not making platforms for scout etc
ivory sundial
the promoted char requirement is not in proportion to the difficulty of normal deep dive
ivory sundial
Hmm i suppose the optimal way to go forwards is to level the unpromoted characters only during weekly core hunt and resource assignment.
and do deep dives otherwise
wind nest
the promotion idea I think was just to allow players to get used to the class' role
though randos on DD/EDDs you get the occassional clueless player or one that does not want work as a team player... or just someone that is not good at Haz 4 or 5 sort of missions
civic quarry
That 3rd EDD stage... looks like it was designed by a retarded guy with all the weird terrain. Small vertical map + Ghost + dread + detonator + endless horde + holes everywhere + leeches + spitballers + ice crystals in the way everywhere
versed willow
Good old map gen.
wind nest
extraction maps always have endless horde if you dont get all the gems in, more of a test of endurance
soon as you drop, get those gems in
thorny geyser
so you are suggesting getting aquarqs, then fighting dread?
versed willow
Get aquarqs until the first announced swarm, then immediately get the dread done. Then go back to aquarqs.
wind nest
during that time a second detonator turned up lol
detonator, a dread and a ghost 🥔
since I was a driller I just went for the aqua the moment we arrived, drill + throw... Having a gunner was also useful, a line upto the platform - though if you dont have a gunner in the squad, its a spiral walk up
civic quarry
we triggered dread when we had 8/10
@wind nest It's a 7 aquarqs mission, how did you get 8 lol
civic quarry
5 potatoes
lament pecan
doing dread after the first wave
is better imo
if you're playing with randoms, harder to group everyone up and do the dread properly if you do aquarqs first
easier to do dread then split up to do PE stuff
lament pecan
ghosts are rarely problems on big maps
they're pretty helpful on big mining maps actually
helps dig tunnels lol
wind nest
I think the mission might have been more harder if not for volatile guts
lament pecan
bruh i died to volatile guts so many times cuz i keep trying to melee
civic quarry
@lament pecan Yeah, we couldn't group everyone either. We failed because we were all waiting for the scout to finish his shenanigans for 5 minutes, then he got leeched. We had to go get him across that crappy map, to which point a horde came with a detonator then it was neverending to this point until someone accidentally started the dread haha. Game over
wind nest
yeah, its hard not to melee
civic quarry
Really don't feel like doing this again
wind nest
sounds like a crap scout you had there
wind nest
usually with randos if the first mission theres signs of greenbeard tomfoolery, best to just exit the squad
civic quarry
Yeah, when I heard EDDs were pretty hard, like in Magma core with mactera plague, I often quit the lobby once I see everybody is level 30 or so.. It's not nice but carrying everyone then failing because of non-stop reviving is annoying
wind nest
I guess there is no way to learn EDD until you try it
I mean you can say, if you can do Haz5 then you can do EDD as most folks say
civic quarry
I don't think I was the issue there lol, I'm level 580 with the most kills and least deaths. I have all the overclocks, it wasn't my first EDD 😛
odd comet
Point Extractions get larger ambient swarms as time in the mission increases. Problem being, DD/EDD is considered a single mission. So a stage 3 PE starts spawning massive hordes because you're already 30-40 minutes into the 'mission', even though you just started it.
Which means you get swamped really easily if you took your time in the earlier missions, or have trouble finding aquarqs.
So yeah, Stage 3 PEs just suck in general
mental valley
See, I like them because it's just insanity, you have to bring order from chaos to win.
static hound
@ivory sundial it sounds like you mismanaged your plan to have characters promoted on time for the weekly deep dive, should have just played double xp missions earlier to solve your problem yourself, nevermind you still have a week to complete all these assignments which can be done in a single day with dedication
static hound
as for PEs, if its true that EDD time limit counts towards the PE soft timer maybe DRG should fix that. Yes a lot of outspoken elites are going to argue that EDD is already too easy but the fact the game doesn't explain these mechanics to the player ahead of time is bad design since the majority of players dont understand even the basics of PE's timer
near delta
elites throw a fit if a map "Has to much nitra" never mind the fact most of em are playing solo so a map with anemic amounts of nitra say 2 resups is 'too much' for their solo scout play to be consided 'challenging'.
deft kite
@near delta then again every map has "too much nitra" you always have more than enough unless you really are fucking around a lot even with a 4 man dwarf team
last raptor
What are the mods for the EDD this week?
deft kite
i don't remember any from the 2 first level 3rd level has the ghost det
maybe the second one has exploder infestation
but that's a big maybe
wind nest
1 - Lethal enemies
2 - none
3 - ghost + volatile guts
bitter garnet
I'd love it if mods just pin the pics that we upload of DD and EDD weekly.
That way people don't have to ask or repeat again what it is lol
lime jay
EDD is brutal this week.,
quiet wyvern
only on Stage 3 for me imo, the other 2 stages were pretty easy
lime jay
Yeah, they're not too bad.
But I've only had one group rally successfully into 3 and we waited too long to hit the dread.
wanton cloak
I rarely do edds anymore, since I have all the weapon overclocks
quiet wyvern
True, I have them all as well, but i like to earn as many blanks as possible
wanton cloak
I hate having too much of one resource without spending it
versed willow
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static hound
yeah out of 10 pub groups ive played with only 1 succeeded and that was the second try
novel folio
Rip
naive bramble
Volatile guts is both a blessing and a curse
static hound
more of a blessing though since the damage you take only happens at point blank and the damage they take is like mondo damage and it hits in a larger area for enemies
spiral tapir
deep dive sure was unexceptional this time around
spiral tapir
I think I have it mixed up with some other mining missions in dense biozone I played mentally
yeah
static hound
yeah it feels like that
spiral tapir
like, sure I love getting mining on deep dives! but on the ELITE ones
static hound
maybe deep dives need to be one giant map with like more than one negative mod?
spiral tapir
oh god just saw the third stage of the EDD up there, glad I finished the milestone for EDDs last week
naive bramble
Finished it but it was a doozy
junior fossil
tbh the third stage of the EDD wasnt as hard as I thought it would be
there is plenty of nitra, aslong as you go around the back to the route to the egg leading up to the minehead you can have some time before the ghost comes after you
static hound
I see a lot of players in EDD not getting nitra on 3rd map
naive bramble
gotta stock up on those nitra, resupply before the 3rd stage for the initial rush out from the drop pod and all that
static hound
you'd think people would figure that out by now
static hound
yeah not everyone is a god gamer
wind nest
sometimes the randomness can not be in your favor in EDD
hidden latch
sooner shield recharge or increased recharge?
wraith shard
imo sooner
usually you want to squeeze as much shield out in dangerous situations as possible
if you can dodge stuff for the 9 or so seconds required for increased recharge to beat sooner recharge you're usually safe anyway
static hound
yeah almost everyone takes sooner shields
it mathematically makes more sense to take them 99% of the time
cyan grove
waxen mist
is it just me or
the first 2 stages of the EDD were a cakewalk
followed by nightmare level stage 3
hardest possible main objective followed by the hardest possible secondary objective with the hardest possible warning modifier
pure grove
Not just you, my team and I steamrolled through the first two stages, but were wiped out within the first 2 minutes on stage 3
austere pond
You need to be really fast on EDD
Even if the first 2 stages are easy, you should still do them as fast as possible
Because PE is the worst mission type to have on last stage
waxen mist
i managed to steamroll the first 2 stages solo
then the third stage came and did rougly alright
but then as i was fighting the dreadnough the periodic swarm arrived and a bunch of stuff i don't exactly remember happened
i fell into the pit with no flares ready so i lost all my 3 revives there
then i got stunlocked by a blizzard and a slasher
austere pond
Oof
You should've timed that dread fight better
Wait for a horde and then go for the kill right after
waxen mist
yeah you're right
thing is i had all the aquarcs and i didn't wanna stay there a moment longer
autumn cosmos
yea my and my team got cucked by the dreadnought cuz we fought it too early. ended up getting caught between the dreadnought and the horror
and then the blizzard came in so we werent fast enough to run around them
complete and utter wipe lol
calm niche
You know for how hard EDD stage 3 is, it does give you a LOT to work with kiting wise. Granted the team that I just finished with got out by the hairs of the scouts beard because we all ran out of ammo after 5-6 resupplies.
lament pecan
the only thing that makes stage 3 hard except for being a PE is the dread
takes too much organization to get everyone together to fight it
plus the map is cancer
although it has a lot of kiting room
and if you don't kill dread in under like 2 min then you're probably gonna lose
similar to the last edd where stage 3 was a PE and dread
vapid monolith
Quick question about gunner, which primary is better to use for edd? I used ac with splintering shells oc with the ammo build but on third stage it was taking far longer then I would have liked to kill grunts
lament pecan
but the last one had a way easier map to navigate so everyone was on the same page pretty much
ac carpet bomber or minigun lead storm are both s tier
lament pecan
lead storm nerf was kinda a buff lol
you don't want to stun praets anyway
and stunning glyphid grunts doesn't matter
cuz you're gonna pretty much delete them anyway
i would say lead storm is better on this edd cuz of the dreads
but honestly primary on gunner doesn't matter too much
in the grand scheme of things
lament pecan
cuz they turn around
vapid monolith
Ah
lament pecan
anyway some ppl think exhaust vectoring is better than lead storm
so really, it doesn't matter too much lol
vapid monolith
Cool beans
floral kestrel
ROCK AND STONE!
vapid monolith
For Karl!
naive bramble
for the EDD, the gunner that I ran with used Big Bertha with some rate of fire mods on for the damage. The quicker the waves die, the quicker we could deal with the dreadnaught
shut ravine
Who's Karl, anyway?
quiet wyvern
No one know's
verbal night
near delta
This EDD is fucking impossible and whoever designed the spawning mechanic should be sentenced to playing this level for the rest of their afterlife.
lament fable
the third stage is cancer incarnate
barren steppe
Third stage for EDD certainly surprised me with what it immediately threw at my team.
lament fable
yeah. we got what was practically a swarm on top of two spitballers right as we left the pod
oh and a blizzard 🙂
barren steppe
No blizzard on my end, but we had the make-up of a swarm, a spitballer, acid spitters, a breeder, and one of those giant spawners
feral atlas
I've beaten the EDD twice now
people that say it's impossible are weaklings
first two stages are snoozes, and stage 3 takes just minimal forward thinking
focus the two spitballers on the left first, driller flattens the terrain around the minehead, then do the dread there right after the first swarm
wraith shard
We really need the actual hard edds back, doing dd is a huge chore and the edd can be equally boring. The dives have been very boring for about 5 weeks now.
worldly star
Never finished a deep dive solo before and I'm trying to join a group for one, but I haven't had any success, even in the LFG channel. Any tips?
terse river
My tip, host your own and wish for the best.
After the first, like, 1 or 2 days of a new deep dive, people already did them and the ones that're left are the freshmeats and the ones who forgot to do them.
worldly star
Ah, I thought they were repeatable or something, and I was reluctant to host due to a bad connection. Ah well, what do you think odds are of doing one solo?
terse river
Depends on your skill level. What haz level do you play regularly?
worldly star
3-4 range
terse river
Normal deep dive should be a good challenge, EDD is only if the game doesn't decide to fuck you over.
worldly star
Alright, thanks
wraith shard
deep dives are easier solo than with others just play your best char and do your best
worldly star
I'll take your word for it
foggy frigate
This last EDD was a absolute hellhole. The first two stages are a walk in park but the last one. Oh boy. I've failed it twice already, both times with a decent team. Both times we've barely made it out of the drop pod and got a welcome party with several spitballers, swarm and a blizzard 😄 I do not know if it's bug or a feature but both times we got an unending, hefty swarm of enemies. And the crevices... RNG sucks sometimes.
naive bramble
Tip for the stage 3 EDD, resupply and top off your ammo before you call in the mule and head for the drop at stage 2. You'll need that health. Bust out of the drop pod, gunner ziplines and start killing, engineer probably BCs those spitballers. Remain mobile. Stay still and you're dead. Perks to remain mobile is helpful with the deep snow / blizzard but not at all required. Know your roles and weapon strengths and weaknesses. And good luck cause you'll need it if you're playing with randoms.
wispy gazelle
Wasnt it that in PE the longer you stay the more swarms come
I was telling everyone to do dreadnought first, to do dreadnought after this swarm. But everyone was busy getting aquarqs
And at the end it was a spooky bulk, normal bulk, dreadnought and endless waves of enemies
wispy gazelle
Aye but noone came
brazen bloom
spawn it and god find them
go*
its sudden and unexpected arrival has a way of focusing people on the task at hand
wispy gazelle
Could have done that but they were all over the place and didnt want to screw it up
brazen bloom
we had a bulk turn up and wake the dread for us. Didn't end well
wispy gazelle
Oh for some reason the dreadnought spawned while noone was near the thing except me
Dont know how it happend
Maybe a c4 but saw no explosion
deft kite
you can easily get all the aquarq you need by drilling in the room behind the pod
you should also take your fights and kite the dread there
the rest of the place is pretty much a death trap. make sure engie brings repel plat so you don't get rekt from behind
another thing i suggest once you exit the pod on stage 3 focus the 2 spitballer on the right
naive bramble
the bulk spawns at around the 10 minute mark I think
and if a bulk came, you'll probably want to blow the bulk up with the dread if possible. Easy damage and especially good with some engi BC shenanigans
dull yacht
I'm so glad a guy in the random team I joined said to do the dred first. Pretty sure we were all the only one up, at least once in that hellhole. Great fun.
Ziplines kept us alive, they were the MVP. Once the wave got dicey for me, I went on an aquarq scout, helped shorten our time in the cave. Also pulled some of the wave along on a merry journey.
vestal panther
As a newbie who just promoted for the first time (yay!), is there anything I need to do before trying a regular Deep Dive? It seems like a scary task!
dull yacht
Go to the bathroom. Hydrate. Breathe. Leave no dwarf behind.
(Regular DD isn't too scary for a freshly promoted dwarf)
tall hedge
Hey guys, how much time is during a deep dive ?
dull yacht
3 linked missions. @tall hedge Depends how long you take! Plan for 45mins.
tall hedge
Ok thanks !
wispy gazelle
I swear some people just can't be worked with
or some dwarves rather
At the end I tell them to focus dreadnought right after the first swarm and this dingus driller was still going at it with aquarqs even if the dreadnought was alive
I grow tired from edd with randoms
junior fossil
it is why I just solo them
bosco is great for getting things in hard to get locations
cunning smelt
honestly deep dives are easier with bosco then teammates 8/10 times
cunning smelt
and you have a resupply all to yourself
uncut raptor
1 pod is 4 resupplies all to yourself
nitra spending isn't as much of an issue since by the end you should have more than enough
lament pecan
nitra is never an issue with edds though
storm bison
Some did have nitra issues
With mineral patches spawning far into the 1st mission for example
mental valley
IMO, for what it's worth, pull the dread right away and stick on him until he's half dead, then somebody start pulling aq's while the rest finish him off.
fringe kettle
damn that was fast
manic pivotBOT
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frail sapphire
thanks mission control
it's not like you sit in a room 24/7
yelling at us to get back into the uplink zone
rocky torrent
hey the faction board next to the pickaxe station is it on Xbox?
violet sandal
Why I hate PEs in one image.
oak stratus
Just a little tip, if you playing scout, upgrade grappling hook's cable length to 30 meters, you'll save yourself countless of times, specially in EDD. Man I love than thing
rain forge
Anyone who finished third stage want to carry me through it? Im playing engineer
merry isle
I CAN NOT get a team capable of clearing the EDD. Every time they choke and fall apart on the final level. I ain't perfect, but between the hellish start that seems to throw a Bulk immediately as well as a swarm with the 2 spit ballers is insane.
I'm on my 5th attempt please somebody send professional aid.
merry isle
Mayhaps if I fail my first solo attempt. It seems easier than I anticipated so far as I move to stage 3...
deft kite
welp i'm probably not going to bed until a while so at me if you need help i soloed it with driller this week so i know the map pretty well
vocal quarry
Im in CA, let me know if you guys go and want an engi
silver 1, iirc
imma sleep at work
short charm
Third stage was especially rough this week. (EDD) But my friends tend to get frustrated with the game easily, which usually isn't a good thing if you need to stay focused. We did it on the third attempt, didn't think it would happen since we didn't spawn the Dread until after the second wave and by then a lot of enemies were pouring in from all over. It was a lucky shot that brought down the Dread, from there we had to cheese it pretty hard to get the rest of the aquarqs to the minehead. I was downed 3 times as Scout, the rest when combined almost went down 40 times. Yeah. (Final count after all 3 stages)
I know exactly what needs to be done to get through the final stage now, but you DO need a team that won't choke on a Dread encounter. That thing NEEDS to go down as fast as possible, before a true wave spawns and the Ghost catches up to you.
merry isle
Maybe tomorrow gents. I couldn't quite get it done as I had some unfortunate luck on the solo run with too many minis swarms for me to get the Aquarq properly mined and accidentally tripping the BET-C.
I managed to get all the Aquarq mined, but I hadn't touched the Dread and it was the 4th wave and I couldn't kill them all by the time the next wave was upon too.
wraith shard
@deft kite can you please share your solo edd driller load out ? Pretty please.
deft kite
@wraith shard
21312 face melter
12111 homebrew subata
3112 satchel
2111 drill
axe
on the third level focus only on getting aquarq and doing the dread
on 3rd stage don't do other minerals as you should have more than enough nitra when you get there
deft kite
also no you don't get gold lol
vocal quarry
Just bullshittin lol
I see people going for gold when we need to get the level completed all the time
deft kite
i mean if you're moving something and bosco has free time on his hand sure just pick it up as you pass by. otherwise not worth it
junior fossil
bosco is best sent for on the 3rd stage, esp those who are far away from the minehead
deft kite
no it's better to get them yourself and it is much faster
they are all somewhat very close to the pod anyway
except the first one
junior fossil
it is faster to pull them out yourself, but the ones who are far away, bosco can lift over
naive bramble
There are some below the minehead but that's because I had a team with me
deft kite
the only one it's better to let bosco get is the one closest to pod as you will most likely fall if you try to get it
junior fossil
it is why I just let bosco deal with the aqua while do the other objective and then complete
deft kite
all the other ones have no risk and you'll get them faster than bosco
junior fossil
I solo PE alot so I am just used to bosco carrying aqua while I am mowing down
bosco ability to fly really helps when it comes to moving heavy loads
he can also help the same with batterys and mule parts
just press x when he is near where you want him to drop it
deft kite
yeah i agree he's great help when you dig them out and he carries them but you shouldn't sit on plat and ping him to get all of them
the longer you wait the worst it gets
junior fossil
yeah I forget not everyone has the haz5 mentality of I tell bosco to do something so I can do something else
deft kite
what i'm saying is be proactive especially if you are running driller on this week 3rd stage edd because it what makes the difference
i'm not sure if that was a jab at me but i pretty much only run haz 5 unless i'm playing with a friend i know doesn't enjoy haz 5
junior fossil
no it wasn't, it was about the general public usually running haz 3 or 4, and I talk out of the mind of you just keep on moving and doing stuff otherwise swarm
deft kite
often time you can move and do things while swarm too that's why c4 stun on driller is great
detonate c4 press x deposit and start moving to the other aquarq
junior fossil
you nearly always move around in haz 5, if you stop mining or shooting, you would run out of ammo :3
junior fossil
mostly yeah
wraith shard
@deft kite thank you. I've failed two times on 3rd stage as a engineer, now it's drilling time.
oblique osprey
Third Stage PE is just straight evil
Did they even ever fix the spawn bug where the PE starts with the timer of the entire Deep Dive ?
deft kite
spawn bug ?
pretty sure pe is suppose to have constant swarm it's just enemy production on 3rd stage deep dive is higher than usual because because it's haz 5.5
foggy frigate
From what I’ve read it is most likely a bug. PE missions spawn „ambient” enemies all the time, with a short breaks in between. This pause time gets shorter as the mission progresses, so after 40 min or so you get basically an unending swarm (with normal swarms on top). The problem wit DD is, that when you start a PE during a second or third stage of a deep dive, the game adjusts the „ambient” enemies to the complete deep dive time. In the case of the current elite deep dive, you start with constant stream of enemies unless you’ve speedrun the first two stages. The amount of enemies we’ve had during our runs, was so ridiculous, that the enemies were de-spawning on the approach 😄 it is sometimes quite fun to play PE like these, it would make a pretty enertaining mutator!
wraith shard
Well, that explains a lot.
wispy gazelle
Would be epic if that gets fixed though
Another thing I have noticed is that sentry ammo gets refilled between each mission in dives
tough night
OMG, this explains so much about this week's elite deep dive
proven bluff
When me and my buddies went in, one of them started joking about the last leg being haunted
We got really mad at him
tough night
ROFL
meager tinsel
Oh shoot
See I just died on my fourth attempt at the EDD
Every single time it's because the wave size / frequency rate is so high there's. No Pause
We all literally had gone thru it separately and had the exact same problem right out the gate on the third stage
That's interesting tho definitely something I'm gonna keep in mind for future reference
Still nearly beat it that time tho ! Definitely doable just tough as shit
That was the farthest we'd gotten, all the Aquarks and half of the Dreadnaught's health, I'm def gonna try again later
feral atlas
I'm pretty sure the stage 3 PE thing was fixed a while ago, if it ever existed
It's basically a myth at this point. Stage 3 didn't feel different from any Haz5 PE map other than the odd spitballer spawns at the start.
austere pond
I don't think it was ever fixed