manic geyser
Edd this week is kicking my ads
#deep-dive-discussion
bitter garnet
Mactera infestation makes the game easier
Macteras are ultra weak to fire and any weapon with hollow point
Therefore, mactera infestation fills the spawn with an enemy that you can hard counter, making the mission a cakewalk
timber canyon
Ziplines made dreads in mission 1 and the hordes/extraction countdown in 3 a cakewalk.
unkempt portal
ziplines makes everything a cakewalk
willow moon
So has anyone tried out the DigDug bunker strategy for the Black Boxes? Dig a tunnel down below the box so that it drops down a way, and then plug the tunnel with engineer platforms?
This week's Elite Deep Dive was made much easier by making a safe little dwarven sand bunker for the black box. haha
Don't forget to invite molly into the saftey bunker so that you can call the drop pod! Good to have a digger on hand to drill you a tunnel directly to the drop pod, too.
willow tulip
Sure, but that's leaf lover strats
deft kite
^
lament pecan
also easy to die if your driller doesn't know what he's doing
austere plover
Bunkers always work, assuming you can deal with oppressors and detonators.
thorny wyvern
How difficult are deep dives, like Hazard 4?
fast dew
regular are 3, 3.5, 3.5
elite are 4.5, 5, 5.5
(for stage 1, 2, and 3 respectively)
thorny wyvern
Oh huh not too bad
ruby garnet
junior fossil
Oblivion sounds about right
austere plover
Nightmare and oblivion sound too fancy
For official danger designations
But DDs don't name the danger levers anyway, so they can be like asguhsdaawahSd for anyone's care
wraith shard
been joining haz4 for quest here and there and keep running into non-promoted chars with very low ranks
@vocal quarry YES! so many times I've experienced this. I join the game, see that 3 greenbeards have decided to try hazard4, and then we proceed to get wrecked.
vocal quarry
I was dealing with it up until a few days ago. A scout died and they refused to go back to get him because "he sucked". They popped the last dreadnought egg on haz 4 as a 3man and neither of the other two were promoted and had a single digit ranks, iirc.
now if I join a party like that I just instantly back out
thorny wyvern
is the expectation for Haz 4 really to be promoted?
worldly nimbus
so my EDD had 5 players in it. cant post SS here for some reason tho.
dim smelt
5 man team was interesting
it was prob the only way we could beat the second elite deep dive mission tbh
worldly nimbus
i think we whould ben ok, but 3 casualtys on the drop pod run was not ideal lol.
wraith shard
im starting to think this EDD for this week is genuinely impossible
dim smelt
try w 5 ppl
dim smelt
5 check out the link
vocal quarry
@thorny wyvern Nah, I've definitely cleared it with non-promoted players but they generally have higher ranks.
kind geyser
still havent gotten past s2 and I've tried it with 3 diff teams :/
vocal quarry
whats your guys take on beast master for EDD?
i feel like a lot of people run it but I cant imagine giving up field medic or iron will (playing as engi)
hot rain
well Id hope you wouldnt trade it for vampire since its an active perk
vocal quarry
oh damn, I thought it was an active perk. Thats makes it even more tough to swap in. I love the few seconds it can buy you but damn... I definitely couldnt see myself parting with vamp, sweet tooth, or second wind
Ive actually been rotating sweet tooth, resupply, and vamp
using vamp the least id say
storm bison
I only have steeve for engy tbh
Since it's the only one who doesn't have any way to escape in a sense
The gunner has his shield
The scout the grapple
And the driller can always drill through a horde
I tried using steeve on the scout as a mean to aggro some enemies and give me room to save people
vocal quarry
it also gives sentry more time to fuck shit up
storm bison
But most of the time steeve tend to go play with some friends he made along the way while i grapple everywhere
vocal quarry
i definitely want to use it, just hard to justify what i have toi abandon for it
storm bison
Because of that i loose steeve everytime and since he is alive somewhere i cannot make another
currently i have iron will and steeve if i recall on the engy
Might replace iron
inner void
pfff
I think I got into a lobby with a hacker
joined an EDD game, we loaded in and couldn't figure out why everything was dying in a single shot, then the host killed the lobby.
vocal quarry
Damn. I didnt realize steeve got lost XD
That sounds like OW. As soon as someone calls out a possible hacker they leave.
inner void
I forget his name but it was an engineer
lament pecan
Steeve is good for elim
Otherwise not worth
Dash, IW, field medic, shield link way better
storm bison
That was the old steeve
Now that he can take some aggro he is also usefull as an aggro management tool
lament pecan
Meh it's unreliable at best
It's like a worse pheromone and you can't really aim it
storm bison
Any alien that doesn't attack you is one less alien that you have to care about when you are rezzing the team
lament pecan
Or you could just... Have field medic lol
storm bison
I was running both
And it did serve me well on some edd
But losing steeve in a random cave because he was making friends is what made me stop using him
lament pecan
I feel like dash is more important on engi because of his lack of mobility
storm bison
Now it's field and dash since it's always here at the ready
For my scout at least
Engy i might go for dash and steeve
again
vocal quarry
I dont even feel like having dash is up for debate on engi
necessity
from what ive exp anyway
itd be dope if it had an aoe effect, small boost to the whole team
Im going to save up points for the maxed steeve and give it a shot. Probably swap out resupply.
other peoples steeve has bought me precious seconds to res or setup turrets
Basco, steeve, turret = summoner
wanton cloak
what are your current perks @vocal quarry
vocal quarry
iirc, Im running resupply/second wind/ sweet tooth and field medic/iron will
Resup and sweet ive kinda been on the fence about but not much else appealing to me besides steeve.
I really havent looked more into the active perks. Too many times I've saved a game by res'ing myself and then insta-resing a downed teammate. Always open to suggestions though.
young stirrup
Soooo - are these the same for everyone for the week? World gen and all?
and are these doable with 2 dwarves?
We just promoted our mains for the first time
deft kite
@young stirrup
yes
yes
mint oyster
frail zodiac
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frail zodiac
i think he deleted his message from here, anyway this dude is spamming his twitch link all over the place
check any channel below this
hidden venture
eah i found it in discussion i guess he saw the mod call and tried to hide it lol
split sky
Hello people I come to you because I have a problem, in the deep dive first mission I cannot uplink to mission control as no button appear on the mule, it's the second time I do this mission and the second time I have this bug, what can I do ?
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hallow estuary
@split sky did you do both objectives
you cant salvage the mules and then go with the uplink, you have to do the secondary objective as well
karmic stratus
i have approximately 20 hours in which i must force myself to complete this EDD
uncut raptor
2nd stage is the hardest with the black box
imo
we nearly lost on that stage because 3 of us went down at once but our engie clutched and saved us
ivory flame
I only attempted this week's edd once
one of our team decided it's time to get the box underground
forced us to go bunker, swarm came when we were awkwardly in the middle of digging
karmic stratus
bunker for the EDD black box this time around isn't needed
just block the hole you came in through up top and dig the wall next to it out a bit so you've got more room
deft kite
ebon bloom
what?
deft kite
Click the link
@ebon bloom And if you want to run sticky https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/571565158669877263/691418839778328634/unknown.png
tropic cape
Is there anything notable this week in the EDD to look out for?
ebon bloom
thanks
deft kite
Haven't done it yet @tropic cape ill go do it and tell you
tropic cape
I would pull up the reddit but they removed it from pinned
deft kite
it's not out yet @tropic cape
if you mean in this week like the one still going on first stage get the egg close to you first have driller and gunner fetch it because you'll have a lot of thing coming from a small choke point, do the dread with the long corridor leading to it you can kill it there easily
during second stage there a fork you should keep going straight and then when you're done with that room at the bit at the bottom you drill a whole that shortcuts you to the fork where you go down to do the black box
before black box make sure you set up repel plat on the ledge in front of black box
i don't really remember 3rd stage might be because i'm high or because it was uneventfull
gl
junior fossil
iirc 3rd stage was low grav and parasites aquarq+2eggs
vocal quarry
iirc stage 2 was no shields
and a Black Box
Elite
uncut raptor
stage 3 was a cakewalk, even with the large swarms
as long as you get all the aquarq/eggs asap, which you should always aim to do
polar swallow
someone in my EDD wiped us on stage 2 black box when they used neuropulse -_-
we were over 80% too
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uncut raptor
oof
foggy rivet
neuropulse ?
polar swallow
the See You In Hell active
foggy rivet
it does no dmg to dwarfs?
polar swallow
they were downed, everyone else was up and in the sphere
everyone died at the same time as the pulse happened
hot rain
it does not deal team damage
foggy rivet
yea
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molten mesa
I dont have my deep dives unlocked yet, but is there a way to know the Deep Dives rewards like if theres a Weapon Overclock?
tall kite
Doesn't a deep dive give one blank, one weapon OC, one cosmetic OC for rewards, always?
hot rain
the reward is always the same, blank core mission 1, weapon core mission 2, and cosmetic mission 3
molten mesa
I mean is there a way to know which one it is this week?
tall kite
It's not consistent is it?
hot rain
Do you mean what you actually get?
molten mesa
oh you get to choose what you get?
I dont have Deep Dives unlocked, idk how they work
hot rain
its completely random and different for each person
molten mesa
aaah gotcha
lime jay
Damn, I still need to do the EDD this week.
tropic cape
Yo is there something going on with DD's or something? Everytime I try to join a lobby I get instakicked its happened at least 3 times now
EDD was just fine, second I try to find a group to do DD with bam, kick. Anyone getting similar experiences? seems like a bunch of pretentiousness to me
autumn minnow
where the deep dive groups at
vocal quarry
For a DD I doubt everyone is kicking you
I have somewhat similar issues some days but I never make it in the party. It shows "joining" then kicks me back to the server list or start room
Even if I reboot the game and try to join those same parties it's the same result. I wondering if it's a location/ping thing
spiral glacier
so Deep Dive missions do not contribute to Hazard milestones. Is this intentional?
(if anyone answers feel free to @ me, otherwise I'm gonna lose it in chat lol)
near delta
Fuck this elite deep dive, sincerely from the bottom of my heart. FUCK THIS EDD.
rare vale
Just don't die to shield disruption 4Head
regal geyser
does anyone think theyd be able to complete the EDD with me before it ends?
regal geyser
yup, i am
deft kite
Gimme a sec booting my pc and starting the game
deft kite
yeah
regal geyser
5 fine?
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somber quest
anyone trying to finish the new edd as soon as it appears?
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wraith shard
They havent updated
somber quest
you need to restart the game
plucky gate
Anyone gonna post those juicy Double Capital D deetz?
uncut raptor
what regions?
hot rain
uncut raptor
the edd doesn't look too bad this week
foggy rivet
its ez
plucky gate
Woah
No need to casual shame guys
RIP
Every time someone says an EDD is ez I immediately know im gonna have a hard time with it.
Anyone got deets for DD yet? I can usually go into those blind and be fine but it's fun to know ahead of time
uncut raptor
doing it rn solo, it's not too bad
i'll post a screenshot of the missions stages after i reach stage 3
@plucky gate
had a bulk spawn on stage 2 so be careful with that
uncut raptor
dense biozone
plucky gate
Fuck
uncut raptor
the levels aren't that big, you can solo it as driller
timber whale
driller mmmm
uncut raptor
yes of course 
timber whale
drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
uncut raptor
okay so uh, that last stage was pretty fun
and when i say fun i mean a lot of bugs before i got the uplink stage
wraith shard
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I was doing a deep dive
Had called supply drop so that it fell trough a tunnel
I walk right into it and got downed
Bosco takes like 45 seconds to get to me
Every enemy gets to me too
Gets resed
Lives 20 sec
Gets downed
I'm doing solo with too revives on bosco
celest oasis
was the spawning issue on point extract fixed?
last PE mission on EDD felt alot different than u28
west ginkgo
how is EDD this week?
manic hedge
why is everyone saying its ez, it looks like a big oof, esp with shield disruption 10 aquarq PE as last stage
ashen sigil
What's the new weapon meta looking like? Is pheremone canister still worth using compared to something like Cryogrenade?
hot rain
people are saying its easy because the actual mission doesnt really throw any difficult scenarios at you, the terrain is all pretty simple and straight forward and theres no crazy or challenging spawns.
vast valve
i actually had the most trouble with stage 1 on the edd
balmy oracle
maybe it was our team spreading like crazy but s1 felt like it has nonstop waves and got way easier once we got the uplink fixed and the event driven waves took over
cloud quiver
What is a good indicator of if everyone is ready to leave the mines at the end of the mission? I've repeatedly been kicked from teams because I hit the button, even though no one is doing anything.
next pebble
Ask people. Never just hit it unless you're the host, it's rude
cloud quiver
But it's a good 5 minutes after both goals are hit
next pebble
You're playing in somebody else's game that they hosted, it's not yours to decide
balmy oracle
isn't the option to kick disabled after the button is pressed?
next pebble
They can still shut down the game and boot everyone
balmy oracle
I'd say that makes them even bigger jerks
next pebble
Nobody's right in the situation, but you shouldn't ruin somebody's time by ending early without asking.
hot rain
if youre in a deep dive theres no reason to stay after the objectives are done, Ive never seen someone get ragged on for instapressing the button
next pebble
Some people like to explore, who's to say. Either way, if it's not your game, give a simple query to the team and ask if everyone's ready to go.
storm bison
Also some people want to be prepped before pushing the button like resupplying or they have a gut feeling that a horde is about to be annonced
At one point you can pin point when this happen
haughty trench
@cloud quiver usually when people arenāt pressing the button theyāre looking for rare resources, doing a swipe on already explored caves or just making sure that next horde donāt stack on evac one.
If youāre not interested in these - host your own game.
Also a simple ārdy?ā In the chat will make a world of a difference.
Had to juggle two gold chunks 70m to the drop pod because someone was button-happy the other day.
tardy pier
How hard is EDD this week?
thorny geyser
If you survive initial onslaught of first stage, it should be pretty much doable.
west nest
time to find out if rich atmosphere affects enemies
north bolt
was the difficulty on the normal dives changed? the last 2 felt much easier than normal
older deep dives felt perfectly between haz4 and 5, last ones felt more like 3
tardy pier
random is random
bitter garnet
EDD this week is alright
As hard as last week I would say
First stage's the hardest IMO.
waxen mist
head's for this week's normal deep dive, there's gonna be a lot of morkite objectives, so consider drinking the morkite beer if you wanna get them out of the way easy
kind swan
When the full release version of DRG happens, will the supporter edition be eliminated as well?
hot rain
this is deep dive discussion
tawdry lodge
Before we started, this one guy went on about how Stage 2 and 3 were ultra hard
Before we even started the defense section of stage 1, he went down 4 times, went "lol you guys suck", then left
Proceeded to breeze through the rest of the stages with little issue
willow dove
Stage 3 on elite is MEAN. It's a Point Extraction needing 10 aquarks with a harsh twist: Shield dispruption is there. BE CAREFUL.
tawdry lodge
It's not that bad. Just rush the aquarks then take down boss immediately after a swarm
Ziplines are your best friend
Rich atmosphere makes stage 2 a breeze
Especially that BTC that appears at the last bit of morkite
tawdry lodge
Also, can we talk about how many cave leeches were in DD stage 1?
Pretty much had to keep an eye on the ceiling
celest oasis
Was spawns finally fixed on EDD?
The spawning on PE stage 3 edd seemed alot less... Agressive? Post u28
Thoughts?
devout acorn
What the FUCK is that EDD stage 3
just a constant swarm, with some of the worst terrain I've ever seen
the minehead is a deathtrap, there's no safe route to the dread egg
tawdry lodge
Actually, there is
There's a tunnel right next to the minehead that takes you straight there
celest oasis
Highly recommended you fight bugs either on the flat ground near the mine head or just under is a large wide area
Do no under any circumstances fight the bugs on the mine head
You'll be in for a bad time
Do bugs bite though the mine head anymore or was that fixed?
tawdry lodge
Question: Are the drop pod landing zones also predetermined or are they random?
tawdry lodge
No, the drop pod itself
celest oasis
Randomized I think unkess its PE which has more set "spawns" that you will recognise
tawdry lodge
We had our drop pod drop in the dreadnaught room
celest oasis
I think more seeds were added u29?
I didnt recognize the PE stage on edd
Need to learn these new layout lol
thorny geyser
first stage in EDD is a doozy
once you breach the first cave, you get relentless swarm, possible bulk and really crappy terrain to fight in
if you survive initial onslaught, you should be good to go
second stage is easy because there is rich atmosphere but third stage is a bit harder
it has shield disruption, so id pick sweet tooth, vamp, resupplier or something to keep your hp up
polar swallow
you dawis get a detonator during DD stage 3 salvage finale?
thorny geyser
we did get bulk detonator in last stage
but it went down fast because everyone focused it
devout acorn
@tawdry lodge No route to the dread that goes via the minehead is remotely safe
you have to dig your own tunnel from the flat ground at the bottom (the only place where it's at all safe to fight anything) which is pretty tricky with the constant swarms
feral atlas
fresh shell
oi wazzoks
deft kite
edd and dd are pretty much a pleasant stroll this week
bring repel plat for first map dig around obj for extra space
there a shit ton of nitra to keep you fully stocked through the whole edd
the second one was pretty uneventfull
the only tip there is in the third map is fight the dread in tunnel leading to it and set mines at the entrance so glyphids don't bother you too much
second map is very easy because of the high speed bonus
junior fossil
even soloing it feels like a breeze compared to last weeks
deft kite
i mean that's what they want
they probably want to make it easier so people can adjust to the new stuff
lament pecan
ive done the last 2 cycles of dd/edds solo. much more consistent than doing it with randoms
although if your team knows what they're doing its way faster than solo
deft kite
@lament pecan telling them what to do makes the biggest difference in the world
if you're good with all classes and you know what hey should be doing it's pretty much a breeze
lament pecan
do i really need to tell a promoted scout to use flares
deft kite
yes
lament pecan
lol
deft kite
1 promo don't mean shit
lament pecan
it means you've played like 5 hours on the class
deft kite
you can have a gold 3 scout he will still be bad because he never played engi and doesn't understand why he should flare
i had one today actually
deft kite
i mean
you can grind in haz 3 for long enough to make it gold 3
you still have haz 3 habits
why move to a cave when mactera deal little to no damage
why flare when there will never be more than 10 visible enemy that you will insta kill charging you
like you don't develop habit if there no reason for them to be there in the first place
junior fossil
I solo them and only have bronze 2 driller as my highest :/
junior fossil
yeah, he goes where you mark... and doesnt just run off somewhere
versed willow
hasty tide
Can't wait to lose the green in my beard.
spiral tapir
it's still an EDD, but it's definitely easier than usual. Hard mission's the first one, but there's good amounts of nitra all through the three of them, the second one you can beat in about 2 swarms due to rich atmos, and the third one has easy aquarqs. as long as you have an evenly balanced team that can manage to not die you'll be fine
as for the DD, only things I remember were that one was cave leech and all of them had morkite, so that one's also easier than usual. Good week!
tawdry lodge
That initial climb out of the pit is absolute hell
Doesn't help that there's a mule there
versed willow
lament pecan
yeah first stage of edd is really reliant on good scout and also gunner putting up ziplines
worldly crag
shield disruption point extraction shudders
thorny geyser
it can be tough but right perks make a world of difference
austere pond
You should have someone go and lure out the dread on last stage
Because that place is way too remote
Getting everyone there takes too long
west ginkgo
hmm. I'm only an ok scout. maybe I should play a diff class
deft kite
@west ginkgo to be a good scout in DD/EDD you only need to do 2 things
Focus on nitra
Use flare
west ginkgo
I do both of those. Thing I'm working on is not over extending and getting my butt chomped off
wooden skiff
thorny geyser
we dont talk about goto, autocannons or multi-las
last veldt
Hows everyone feel about this weekās EDD? I thought the difficulty was about average. Somewhat disappointed since i brought a friend along who just promoted and it went a bit too smooth so there werenāt many big panic moments.
austere pond
It's not as easy as EDDs last month
But it's also a PE on last stage
Which is shield disruption
And first stage can easily get hectic
So I'd say it's slightly above average
Would've been harder if not for speedhacks on second stage
hot rain
the last stage is annoying on paper but with the layout of the cave and the spawning it was really fast, I forgot it was even a shield disrupt until over halfway through
west ginkgo
lol I was scout for leeches managed to spot most of them with flares before they got us
thorny geyser
past the two months? its a bit harder than normal
frail zodiac
people cant co-operate in a co-op game, nothing new
deft kite
@frail zodiac HOL UP SO YOU IS SAYIN I HAVE TO FLARE FOR MY ENGI
high shuttle
@deft kite So they can platform those minerals on high places
deft kite
what do you mean using rope and drilling to make crossing terrain easier
@high shuttle wait you mean i have to platform minerals for my scout too
high shuttle
Yup
deft kite
can't he just stand on the mineral ????????????????
high shuttle
ping the nitra or morekite flare it engi platforms under it scout grapples up and mines on the platform
deft kite
do you also mean i cannot use fat boy to defend my team from 3 glyphids
they might lose half their hp but i'm sure they will be glad i took care of those 3 glyphids
high shuttle
fat boy? the gunner?
deft kite
of course fat boy is on the gunner
lead storm is on the driller
carpet bomber is on the engi
high shuttle
ok i thought so, but it really depends on the mission and what the team needs really.
deft kite
not sure if i have to mention it but i'm being 0% serious atm
high shuttle
I know š
deft kite
but by being 0% serious i obviously mean you should freeze your teammate
deft kite
when your frozen the ice becomes armor
so to protect your teammate you should freeze em
high shuttle
Wait does that even work? I mean i've been frozen enough times but never noticed if I took damage from non frozen beasties
I'll test that when my mates get on later xD
deft kite
no it doesn't but don't tell the 
high shuttle
lol my lips are sealed
deft kite
if something you might take extra dmg
high shuttle
I could believe that
high shuttle
I ment
runic cedar
ok, i did my first deep dive today and got an overclock for a class i haven't even played at all yet. is there a way to turn that into something i actually want/need?
nimble perch
blank core can be used in non deep dives to chose between three, but if you did not get the core you wanted you just kinda have to grind it out as far as i know
nimble perch
you dont always get an OC, sometimes its a cosmetic. the best way ive found is to get blank cores, which can show up in deep dives, but also the weekly assignment that almost always gives a blank core.
blank cores can then be spent for some modifier, be it OC or cosmetic, when doing normal missions as special events.
runic cedar
i got a scout OC and an engie cosmetic, yeah
lament pecan
what
you get 1 of each for each dd/edd
you always get 1 of each
and you get 1 of each for core hunt too
nimble perch
i think what henry was asking was how getting blank cores works/ what do you do with them. You can only get the rewards for a deep dive once a week, same with a core hunt. Blank cores can be used in special objectives that spawn in regualar missions and deep dives, but if you are trying to cash your blank cores its better to do it in regular missions if you have already done a deep dive since special minerals and beer materials dont spawn in a deep dive
graceful bolt
Sorry to barge in, is scout any good in a deep dive?
lament pecan
i think you don't know what you're talking about
you dont always get an OC, sometimes its a cosmetic.
nimble perch
at least from my experience, all classes play a role. Scout is very good with a engineer on your team, scout is also super nice for the mobility to get in and out of situations that other people cant so you can get people up if need be.
@lament pecan I think i mentioned that eariler as I was talking about things, henry was wondering how to get OCs and I think i said it might be a cosmetic
graceful bolt
Alright thanks, but im getting that gunner, driller and engie are more suited for the deep dives?
nimble perch
personally i feel driller is the worst class, call me stupid, but the utility is nice but their primary does not do nearly enough damage. Scout can move fast, his alternative weapon does massive long range damage, and their IFGs slow down people real well
hallow estuary
Driller has the best primaries in the game
nimble perch
educate me
bitter garnet
Not the best primaries in the game but definetly has amazing firepower.
nimble perch
i feel like gunner does everything driller does better
bitter garnet
Scout's the weakest but that makes sense.
Gunner has the best firepower because he's the gunman. He can choose to build and specialice for something. Driller shines in AoE and CC, as well that he brings important tools to the team (drills).
Driller can shape the terrain to create a better arena to fight on, which is helpful in salvage and elimination. It can as well, save your team ass in a fucky map of mining expedition since he can drill towards the exit.
All of that while obliterating any glyphid at close range with infinite piercing.
nimble perch
i agree he is nice for small swarms, but ive never had that big of an issue with those after i was able to power attack with my pickax. His utility hands down is super useful in specific situations where it really matters, but scout does a whole lot of dmg with their ability to hit weak points on oppressors or other hard to hit creatures with his high mobility. I just feel that everyone else brings an important support (auto turret, light source and mobility, ziplines and sheild) where as the driller has a good support, but lacks with his damage
bitter garnet
Scout does a whole lot of damage
In no moment Scout does more damage than any class in the game.
He specialises in bursting down priority targets but he cannot sustain that DPS.
nimble perch
true, but priority targets are the thing that driller does not seem to be able to handle as well as other classes
bitter garnet
Yes because he's the best at "trash" mob, hence he needs a weakness
latent hamlet
Driller can build subata or take axes for single target dps
axes are really good burst damage
not that i would recommend it, but c4 built for damage is also really good burst
nimble perch
I dunno, there must by nature be a worst class, i just think scout comes with all of what you need to do the same thing you have to go to lengths to do the same with driller. Though there have been plenty of games where i was wishing I had a driller, but I almost always have a scout so i dont knwo
night meteor
What's with this bullshit spawn for the 3rd part of the Elite Deep dive?
Pins you against a wall and puts a Spitball infector directly next to the exit
And no Shield
Was that level tested or what?
latent hamlet
Deep Dives are rng just like the rest of the missions
night meteor
I'm under the impression that is not true
They are the same if you redo them and I was under the impression they were special because they were somewhat crafted
The wiki refers to them as "pre seeded". I don't know how much intentional care and crafting that implies
nimble perch
they are randomly generated at the start of each week, a buddy of mine suggested that you should be able to at least switch perks out between missions, but for now if you get dunked on on the last mission there is no developer intervention
night meteor
Ah. I was told they were a bit more crafted than a normal mission
so pre-seeded just means everyone plays the same randomly generated missions?
nimble perch
yup, your trash last mission is the same thing i have to endure, as far as i know
latent hamlet
yeah sorry, i could have explained that better
junior fossil
well atleast the last mission this week was better than the 2nd one on the last 2 weeks
fast dew
fucking magna core EDD has scarred me
tribal ridge
junior fossil
it was close to a magma vent, but it falls into a pit
graceful bolt
Heya, I'm new to deep dives, can I get some beginner tips?
calm leaf
play it like a normal mission, feel free to spam supplies on stage 3
normal deep dives have difficulty like haz3 or 4 if i'm not mistaken
bitter garnet
Normal DD 3 3.5 3.5
outer dome
3 / 3.5 / 3.5
outer dome
š
gilded moss
i just solo a deep dive and get to the end and i cant uplink to mission control
i found the drop pod before i repaired the mules so i think its bugged what do i do
outer dome
Did you sent molly back already?
minor prairie
anyone know the mods for tainted gap?
mortal pilot
Hello everyone, i found part of pickaxe on a map, but cant found it in my inventory, what wrong ?
median jasper
You have to equip it back at base
hollow geyser
To the left of the entrance to the Memorial Hall there's a pickaxe customization mold.
elfin stone
Me and sone friends were doing the EDD meme style with 4 BC engies, and it was a total cakewalk. Until in escape pod showed up in the most assinine spot on the final stage and we died trying to figure out how to even get there. As it turned out you had to climb up to the ceiling on the oppisite side of the map, and go through weird ceiling tunnels that go all the way across the map. That map generation was cursed.
On a side note it's beautiful to see a bulk show up, to then be greeted with a wall of BC shots that instantly murder it.
mortal pilot
Why there's no this skin "Fourth Relic" for flamethrower ?
storm bison
there is one
mortal pilot
Yeah, its my screenshot š
west gorge
Why is so hard to find good people for Elite Deep Dives? DX
wraith shard
Hey there fellow dwarves, quick question, I sometimes (often) have this issue when I try to join a deep dive, I get this "fail to connect" error, don't know if it's a bug, the game is still opened but it seems I can't join it
excuse my (tits) french
west gorge
:c
celest oasis
Have devs addressed spawning issues where point extraction spawning mechanics take in total dive time , instead of stage time spent in?
Ie. Millions of bug waves stack over each other since PE scales super fast
idle light
last mission for elite deep dive
drop pod called in
this happens xD
couldnt find the way to it, since it spawned somewhere unknown (no mule, since PE)
lament pecan
theres a tunnel in the ceiling
distant path
if you roated the map, the tunnel did not connect :v
quiet wyvern
Well i just got one of the stupidest, and possibly very racist group on an EDD, so they were all bronze tier characters except for me, they were calling me a nerd and a noob for going down on their game. But get this I've only been downed 2 times, everyone else had 3 or 6 downs, they've been bringing up, age and crap, even been talking about Hitler too like wtf?!! and when we failed stage 3, I had over 650+ kills, and they blame me entirely for the loss, well gunner did anyhow. How stupid can people be?!
lament pecan
turns out there are racist people who like hitler in the world
quiet wyvern
yes
formal vine
Just screenshot the chat, send it in for a report, ezpz gg they get rekt for their crap
hallow wagon
Just me or was the first stage of the EDD the worst?
First two times we wiped, third I was lone survivor with a sliver of health.
final forge
I say the third one is the wrost I have yet to find a group to pass it.
final forge
first one was not bad but only because we had a driller to freeze the bulk
hallow wagon
Also I think on every attempt we had bulks spawn next to us during the uplink, so that probably helped.
final forge
most games I have played we had a cryo driller so the bulks were not to bad problem is cryo cant deal with the macteras and grabbers of the second and third stage
hallow wagon
Now that I think of it, I think I just hate haz 5/EDD Salvage. Uplink always devolves into mashing keys and hardly being able to see what the hell I'm doing.
lament pecan
yeah
spawn location for uplink matters a lot too
and spawn is random
so
sometimes uplinks will just be a breeze because you might only have to protect 2 sides one of which can be covered up by engi
grave star
So when I did my first deep dive they mentioned that they were supposed to fix a way people were cheesing on doing the startup of the drop pod by digging a hole for fuel cell and having an engie cover the hole with all of you in. It looks like it's not "fixed" yet, or maybe because I had Steve up top which aggroed everything until it hit a max spawn and didn't drop anything on us in the hole.
lament pecan
Good luck with that on edd
Detonator and oppressors
If you dig straight down with no backup
You're basically asking to get wiped
novel root
lament pecan
I run aoe stun
Pretty sure damage is not "substantial". Even if damage was substantial stun is still better
warm gazelle
Covered by engi?
wraith shard
Anyone wanna take a scrub engi on a deep dive?
deft kite
@wraith shard if you still need help hit me up
astral tiger
U needro fix the kicking system
Ive been kicked out of the game lobby like 3 times today
Super annoying
Ive helped them collect alot of stuff then they kick me when we are almost done
storm bison
First time i hear that you sure they didn't said anything of importance ?
Like they asked for something via vchat or voice chat ?
astral tiger
No
storm bison
Were you trying to push the button in advance without the host consent ?
storm bison
That's weird well right there i can't tell why this happened
astral tiger
I always wait for others since i dont have much experience on this game
No i get kicked by the host
Not the game
storm bison
I understood don't worry
astral tiger
I get a message that says that they had no reason
vital turtle
u suk
storm bison
On which hazard where you playing when they kicked you
astral tiger
3
storm bison
if it's lvl 3 then there shouldn't be any reasons even for low level players
astral tiger
But the thing is, ive played whole day today. And out of all games ive played ive got kicked randomly by 3 games
One of them i farmed for atleast 20 min
fringe kettle
improve your skill level, host haz 4, most of these issues will go away.
actually just hosting will resolve them
storm bison
I mean it looks like you ran into the asscrack of the bunch
astral tiger
People rarely joins when i host
I am on my promotion on my scout so i have atleast some experience, im not an complete noob
storm bison
One thing that you could do is play with the people on this discord
astral tiger
So i dont see a reason for them to kick me 20 min into the game
storm bison
There is a whole #lfg-steam where people send invites and play together
That way you will have a chance to receive some advices and stuff
And most importantly they wont kick you for a reason
astral tiger
Ok thanks
storm bison
Aww that's sad welp if that's the case
Time to bring a greenbeard with me
So he can start doing the edd with us
uncut raptor
had two bulks spawn at the same time on the first stage though š³
thankfully before the uplink/refuel
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tropic cape
Any game ending dangers I should be wary of in this weeks EDD?
trim bough
dreadnaught in the last stage
lament pecan
1st stage is annoying, but can get dangerous depending on how shit your uplink spawns are and timing of detonators
2nd stage is forgettable
3rd stage drill to dreadnaught and lure it back to minehead, also need to drill to drop pod
tropic cape
Ah gotcha thanks
slate pine
Ah first stage was slightly stressful but other 2 were cake
wary meadow
This edd isnt really that hard but some how I've lost on stage 3 escape 5 times from ppl not understanding how ziplines work. Absolutely infuriating that ppl can be over rank 100 or silver promos and not understand basic mechanics. Not to mention they ignore simple advice during game. Anyone got any advice for solo at this point?
lament pecan
Someone did it solo with driller
Obviously still doable with scout
Not sure what advice specifically other than "drill" out the area around the uplink
vocal quarry
is there a way to know when Ive already completed a DD?
honest sleet
@vocal quarry the 1 - 2 - 3 in the DD computer will be filled in yellow, not black
junior fossil
I solod it with the driller, my tip would be sticky flame, and remember when you solo you can fully restock on ammo
also bosco can lift heavy object to you
he would drop them if you mark something else or press x
marble oar
Hi guys, in deepdive my crosshair can suddenly disapper till the end og the dive or till the end of a current nission, is it ok?
As i play scout with rifle crosshair is crucial for me. Is there any way to fix this bug?
lament pecan
Never had that bug bedore
hot rain
theres not really a way to fix it right now and it happens randomly
it seems fairly common
marble oar
@hot raintnx for the information anyway
mental merlin
Yo deep dives are AWESOME
Just did my first one yesterday, had a blast, team I was in was really fun, and we even had a low oxygen level midway, something I never dared to deal with before, was really tense.
hazy quail
Does Deep Dives gives its reward only one time per week?
faint otter
strong jungle
I think you get a reward every time you complete a deep dive
I've never done one so I don't really know
spiral tapir
@hazy quail you get a reward for every stage you complete, but only once per stage per week
so up to 6 cores total if you beat both dives fully
hazy quail
that's exactly what i wanted to know, thx!
quartz kite
could we change the drop pod button so that at least 2 people must press it or start a vote for calling the pod? 3 people just lost a lot of rare materials and pickaxe parts, because 1 guy just called it, without even finishing the secondary objective and only he made it out...
thorny geyser
just add the name to the big book of grudges and kick him next time
proper gazelle
this deep dive is very fun
if every deep dive is like this i will continue to enjoy them
stoic beacon
there's a glitch rn where all your cosmetics don't load in during a mission
dim smelt
Here's a video to fix that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1btakCDdauM&feature=youtu.be
clear shoal
this elite dd is insane hard
wanton cloak
that is the point
lapis mesa
yeah it was super hard, people I was matching with were saying the same thing. Many attempts. Finally got a solid team together and we pulled it off.
wraith shard
I never understand how people do these friggin things
elite dives
haven't managed to complete one so far, lol
lament pecan
do it solo
dry temple
I've never attempted the EDD solo, but I mightas well. Last time we almost cleared until scout noclipped through a wall to his death. Then as the team was wiped I got downed on the pod ramp
I think I just need a break from the game, it literally has me pissed off at it after that last one
thorny geyser
Took me two tries to get first done as gunner.
First we got wiped during stage 1 initial onslaught, then we played it safe and took down the swarm from the tunnel.
Remember to change any and all armor upgrades to health and away from shield upgrades since last stage is shield disruption.
lament pecan
armor upgrades?
thorny geyser
Other than that, take perks that help you staying healthy. Sweet tooth, vampire,
veteran resupplier ect
lament pecan
oh nvm, i got confused reading htat
thorny geyser
yeah
mineral bag, healthy and breathing room are all very good
elemental insulation protects you from all kinds of nasty shite
id also take a look at dash and second wind perks
fast dwarf is a living dwarf
this edd also spawns ungodly amounts of web spitters, so take those out first
lapis mesa
I'd offer to come with and help, but I would not return to the tainted gap for the all the matrix cores in hoxxes
candid knoll
the tainted gap, is my first elite, and it is utter. Hell.
lapis mesa
same
candid knoll
We were at the last stage, dreadnought almost beat, and a swarm comes, primary was already complete, the swarm wiped us. The shield disruption made it near impossible to do anything
storm bison
We did it first try on our side
But yeah we almost got wiped out at the 3rd stage right after leaving the drop pod
Spitballer wait waiting above us with a big welcoming comitee
static hound
yeah people get wiped in lethal difficulty all the time because they dont get that there are a lot of attacks outside swarms
and yeah theres a spitballer lol
storm bison
Got lucky to escape that with the scout and had a chance to take some sugars next to the mine head
Funniest part was that a Q'ronnar almost bumpped me to death just before i could take one bit of sugar
Flew right above my head
static hound
thats why I blast all wildlife as a dwarf, leave anthropology to the elves
umbral notch
I feel like this week's EDD makes it into the top 3 or at least 5 hardest of all time
storm bison
I dunno i feel like it's not like those early elite deep dives
Where there wasn't a ton of sugar during shieldless missions and that you would get rezzed with little to no health
Those deep dives were pure nightmares
static hound
I think it was a pretty tough mission
if your peeps arent experienced and know how to handle that kind of map and that kind of hazard the fail rate is going to be at least 10-20% higher this week
umbral notch
true, that one magma core EDD will always be hardest IMO, especially since it was pre-lethal enemies nerf
gentle bison
@candid knoll what is "the tainted gap"?
thorny geyser
this week's elite deep dive
flint bison
I am currently stuck in the staircase of the drop pod in the finale part of the deep dive. Anything I can do to not lose the mission?
nvm i fucking clutched it
pure grove
And of course its when shield disruption happens that every acid spitter ever decided they wanted to spawn
pure grove
I can't remember, think it was an OC for engi
fringe kettle
Stage one is a blank core. Stage two is a random OC. Stage three is a random cosmetic.
pure grove
oof, I was way off
storm bison
<@&296918282403840000> halp
hidden venture
got him
harsh steppe
nice shot
storm bison
What the fudge is happening today
Scam bots, obvious trolling trying to get a triggered response and now this
Unless it's the same guy with diff accounts
teal flume
This weeks dd stage 1... where are the leeches?!
teal flume
Wow leechy got is very own stage!
thorny geyser
Calling a cave leech Leechy is like calling an elf Elfo.
granite lantern
Why are people saying this week's edd was hard?
I didnt feel that
we only struggled at the final mission on the dread cause an out of season swarm decided to attack us but we made it
it was on a pub too
hot rain
there are always going to be people who find every Deep Dive hard same as there will always be people who find every deep dive to be too easy
granite lantern
@hot rain yea i was wondering why people found it difficult
i dont see any reason for it other than shield disruption but it was on a pretty easy map
hot rain
the first cave is very swarmer heavy so if someone isnt kitted for it and doesnt know how to play around them that could give them a lot of trouble
I ran it with leadstorm and had a very annoying time with it lol
granite lantern
hm
i went with scout
there were so few big dudes that i felt useless in the swarm
so i just
sepparated myself from the team and took down part of the wave by myself
i assume i was more helpful that way
static hound
I dont know why people think this week's EDD is easy when its clearly not for most people, just because you get it done on your first try doesnt mean its not hard
tall kite
Oof. So close.
vocal quarry
on the last stage of edd, should you go for the glyphid first?
abstract shell
granite lantern
@static hound bro
difficulty on it is highly subjective
its pretty much rng
all i said is that my experience differed and i had no clue of what supposedly made it so hard
@vocal quarry preferably
but
aquarqs first is also totally fine
howhever if you go aquarqs first
you need to watch out with spawns for when you do dread
vocal quarry
yea, thats where we fucked it
didnt time it with the waves
wave came just as we were close to killing
got wiped
this is why people need mics
lament pecan
I didn't have problems with third stage for some reason
Failed 3 times on first stage trying to uplink
granite lantern
my team got wiped too
lament pecan
Then got stage 2 and 3 in one go
static hound
yeah difficulty is subjective but they have stats
when the fail rate is higher in certain weeks thats all you really need to know
what makes it hard is that most people lack the experience your team had and don't know how to play differently when faced with different map challenges, map mods, and scripted difficulty
plus I am sure there are a lot of newer players trying EDD for the first time right now
mostly thanks to the free weekend + recent sale
vocal quarry
If anyone runs that late night EDD, let me know. Wanted to run on my engi. Plat 1 star.
wraith shard
hmu for weekly deep dive, I like to go gunner
fierce raptor
Noticing U29 for Cryo, what's the discharge time?
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tall pivot
Hey guys how hard is deep dive compared to haz 4, 5, etc? I have deep dive unlocked for a while now but I'm afraid I'm going to get my team killed if I try while unprepared xD
ashen mist
Deep Dive is Considered 3,3.5, and 4 in terms of hazard level per stage of the Dive
I'm sorry
3.5,4,4.5 for DD 4.5,5,5.5 for EDD
in terms of hazard
tall pivot
ah okay thanks
i usually play haz 4 with randos since you never know if your team will be any good, and usually still complete the mission. I guess I'm prepared xD
ashen mist
just do your best Miner and I'll be proud of you.
Making the attempt alone shows you have what it takes to last at DRG
frail zodiac
3, 3.5, 3.5 AFAIK
rotund ivy
people always making up random numbers whenever this question is asked
tulip cipher
yeah difficulty is subjective but they have stats
Where can you see the stats?
And I mean you're always going to have disagreement on how hard a particular week was, especially when you throw in differing classes/weapons and so on into the mix, really you have to go and try it to find out - if someone gets it on their first go naturally they'll find it easy. In that situation you can only really talk about specifics of the dive if you want a productive conversation, or how it was relative to other weeks
deft kite
Regular Deep Dive: Hazard 3; Hazard 3.5; Hazard 3.5
Elite Deep Dive: Hazard 4.5; Hazard 5; Hazard 5.5
or so says the wiki
tulip cipher
Last week's was definitely worse imo with the black box in magma core on PE, finished that section with maybe one HP left
tulip cipher
This week was pretty good apart from when I went solo as engi without BC and got bulk after bulk on the extract
Yeah I did
Rift swallowed up the box š¦
It was disgusting
deft kite
when it happen
driller should make space and plat the top and the border of the cave
had it happen with a team
that's what we did turned out rather smooth
tulip cipher
Didn't have driller unfortunately
deft kite
oof
tulip cipher
But yeah, managed to beat it barely
deft kite
lava no driller is hard
tulip cipher
Almost messed up the run to the pod hence escaping with 1hp
deft kite
no driller in general is hard
tulip cipher
This week the first stage almost ended badly since a bulk blew up under the uplink and we had to defend a crater with bugs pouring in all sides
But that was our fault
tulip cipher
Fungus
Salt pits was last week's normal DD wasn't it?
I can't remember
I know last week's EDD was magma and this week it was fungus
Fungus was easy, we just played the salvage dumb and then had to defend a crater
deft kite
edd
tulip cipher
might've been the week before then
deft kite
pretty sure last edd were lava sand fungus
tulip cipher
I took a break from DRG for a while so I either started doing the EDDs again that week or the week with the magma one
deft kite
had to stop for like a month because i couldn't sit in my sofa because of bed bugs
tulip cipher
Could be. Thought sand came before lava but hell if I know
Oh lovely
Disgusting little creaturees
deft kite
man i wouldn't wish bed bug on my worst enemy
this thing is so hard to get rid of
and then you can't see your friends and your friends can't come over it fucking blows
it's pretty much like quarantine except you have to go work on top of it
deft kite
it's ok i'm constantly killing their virtual brother in exchange
disgusting bug as they say
deft kite
if drg sends me a drop pod with driller flame thrower you can count on it
either that or a spinning death bc
will film it
tulip cipher
I wouldn't trust management's droppod aim.
deft kite
there a theater right next to my place i'll tell them to aim there
tulip cipher
Hahahaha
"Honey this Shakespeare reenactment is getting really weird"
"SO WHAT IF I LIKE REALLY BIG GUNS?"
deft kite
"looks like poop, smells like poop"
cold lark
true poetry
celest oasis
watch the moving turd! 
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eager monolith
am i cursed or something. i keep getting complete morons on my elite deep dive attempts
gunners who have the shield reaction speed of a legless lootbug. scouts who run off only to get grabbed. and if i see any more drillers with c4 in their hands i'm nuking them on the spot
spiral tapir
I thought all lootbugs didn't have legs
eager monolith
they have those little nubbly things on their bottom side
they seem to act like legs
spiral tapir
oh! TIL
anyways best advice I can give for that is get a team together in the discord itself from people that look trustworthy, or ring up some steam friends. The veterans also generally seem to do theirs earlier in the week, so on a day like this you're more likely to get the dregs
eager monolith
these people had silver promotions and were over player rank 100
spiral tapir
player rank does not a good player make, sadly
My EDD run I went into it with a new driller who's first deep dive was literally the one the team I was in had just completed directly before, and we somehow muddled through first try (which I will be honest I did not expect)
eager monolith
well then i'm definitly cursed
spiral tapir
communication's also important, rope your squad into a discord voice channel if you can
scouts usually cut out their running off if you remind them the team needs light
deft kite
@clear shoal i'll do it
but if i go in with you, you must listen or else i'm not doing it
you also need to be in north america lol
i'll carry you for both the dd and the edd if you need
jaunty summit
is the heavy autocannon just bad, or how do you use it if not?
floral pilot
Do you use the carpet bomber build: 13211 ?
lapis ermine
I've gotten the best results with 3,1,1,1,1
The autocannon has been in a bad position, and the dead giveaway was that everyone was using carpet bomber OC, and just wrote the wepaon off if you didn't have it
However, they've sinced move some of the bonuses from Carpet bomber into the default kit itself, and also theres a perk out that is a quite literal must for autocannon which is the "Born ready perk"
max rank you reload a weapon after not having it equipped for 5 seconds, which just so happens to be the Autocannons reload speed
frail zodiac
i like splintering shells now that its base got a buff
can slap grunts proper
33123
same as carpet
lapis ermine
You know they did a good job balancing weapon mods when everyones go to setup for carpet bomber is different
static hound
I use big bertha OC on autocannon and its good I figure
full elk
I failed to get to the drop pod in the elite stage 3. I couldnt get to it whatsoever
frail zodiac
they should land to the same place
full elk
im watching someone completing it on youtube. It looks like you have to dig to that cave to have access to the droppod
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zinc socket
Okay, lets see how bad this is
crystal caverns, how BAD could that be...
stage 1, leathal enemies, 4 eggs, 150 morkite
uncut raptor
completely forgot it was thursday today lmao
gonna try and do the dd solo again
what regions have we got this week?
zinc socket
crystal and magma
stage 1 crystal ends up where it started, eggs are not in hard places either
stage 2, 250 morkite and 1 dreadnought
no modifiers on stage 2
I mean, I"M BAD, and I pulled a 20 minute stage 1, solo, blind
oooh, looks like you can sneak materials in from stage 1, to stage 1 in your invintory, that won't let you completely cheeze the morkite requirement in age 2 with the easy extra from stage 1 but...
zinc token
Hows the Magma stage?
zinc socket
I'm still too green for that
zinc socket
so far stage 2 has a lot of "cave in" driller might be good for speed
zinc token
Cheers Nelo, struggled with the last EDD cause being a gunner in Mactera plague sucks lmao
uncut raptor
magma core š¤¢
lemme know when you do post the missions, i wanna save them for my archive
zinc socket
first impresssion of stage 2 regular dive.... keyword: Choke Point
bitter garnet
@zinc token @uncut raptor Pic being uploaded, march's gonna post it right now
austere pond
uncut raptor
tyvm
austere pond
EDD
uncut raptor
dd stage 2 is very vertical...
zinc token
Dam mactera plague, gotta hope my mates can keep me covered! Cheers Nelo!
zinc socket
it may not be optimal, but I took fast spin up to take the edge off of mactera plauges, I keep thinking maybe there's a better setup for the minigun... 3 2 1 2 3, overclock is thinned drum walls (only other one I have is compact feed mechanism)
but given that I don't have the go to overclock (YET) I've got to make do
tulip cipher
Huh, that looks surprisingly okay.... I was expecting worse when I saw magma biome
zinc token
Aye I usually run the thunderhead for crowd control cause my teams just seem bad at controlling swarms, however running minigun more and the only overclock I believe I have for that makes it spit fire at close range but overheat faster
bitter garnet
Mactera Plague makes the game easier - You can build around their weakness
They receive x3 weakpoint damage and x3 fire damage.
zinc token
Yeah I use my bulldog for those but then I have to take attention from the swarm, idk if I am just unlucky with teams cause when I have a good scout dealing with them I can halt swarms dead
I just seem to take my attention off the swarm for 0.5s and suddenly 40 glyphids are on us
bitter garnet
Engineer should be the one dealing with mactera spawns
zinc token
Mine seem to be nading swarms more but oh well!
bitter garnet
This EDD is really easy
The only moment that can be hard, is if you get an earthquake in stage 2 against dreads
Thats it
outer dome
x2 fire damage for mactera spawn, not x3
bitter garnet
Welp
Thanks Elyth
I'm going to post an invite for normal DD to rush it if anyone is interested in lfg
uncut raptor
nah it's easy
egg spawns on 1st stage are grouped up pretty close
2nd stage has a bit of verticality to it
about to do the 3rd stage now
static hound
are deep dives tailor made by the devs each week or just random generated
static hound
not even like set something so it always spawns 1 bulk detonator during a specific phase?
zinc socket
nods just re-ran stage 1 in almost no time
okay, 16 minutes, but still, for ME, that's bloody fast
I'm sure there's code that if somebody found a really good random seed it could be pushed to everybody
But I've never heard of it being done.
static hound
like replaying the same EDD multiple times, its always spawning predictable enemies at certain parts and certain attacks come at certain timings
zinc socket
okay, that's intersting, gold and niter in my invintory carry over to stage 2, but not morkite, guess you can't cheese that
I've got a bulk detonator driving a shortcut path to me, might make my phaze 2 DD MUCH faster
zinc token
Out of curiosity the EDD does it auto set a Hazard level? Heard normal DD are on Hazard 3
zinc socket
I heard it starts at 3.5 and the last stage is 5.5 ... at least that's the wiki statement, but... wiki's can be edited.
the crazy thing dug halfway through the level to me... that's going to be a LOVELY short cut
.... if I live.
zinc token
Oof hazard 5.5? rip
zinc socket
drat, the shortcut the thing drove didn't go anywhere useful...
zinc token
Rip
uncut raptor
there's a lot of gold on dd, i mined around 1000 or so
so if you wanna farm pots o' gold on it, i'd say it's worth it
thorny geyser
I wish we had more ways to spend gold
hollow cloud
ugh, that EDD stage 2
never had that many quakes before
the entire floor was just Engineer foam platforms
zinc socket
multiple bulk dets this run as well, yha, I think a good time will require a driller on the team, this begs for a nice drill path here ot there
with the positition of the dreadnaught in DD-2, managing the bulk detonator to not set it off, and possibly even to give you a good place to fight it, is a very nice thing...
the new more agressive bulk det and horror pathing can really be felt in this DD cave, the previous cheese dosen't work nearly as well
okay, the THIRD bulk detonator caught me just as a swarm spawned...
I'm going to try this on driller
vast valve
now that fire damage can clear praet gas clouds, is running White Phosphorus Shells on a solo Scout dive viable now? or fear always?
zinc socket
I'm not sure that scout flares are lighting gas on fire
I've had luck lighting gas clouds with the plasma weapons
vast valve
i meant the shotgun, afaik fire bullets can ignite them now
storm bison
@vast valve Well personnally i always used the fire shells on the boomstick if i was running bullets of mercy along with it so i would say now that you can ignite gaz it has just gotten better
vast valve
hmmm
storm bison
What is your go to weapon and oc of choice ?
vast valve
gk2 with max RoF, ammo capacity and battle frenzy with AI stability engine OC, boomstick with max damage+blowthrough+fear with stuffed shells OC
i try to focus the objective more than kill stuff, use the ice nades after grouping via kiting and clear them all with the boomstick
storm bison
I would say keep the fear one instead
vast valve
(when soloing)
storm bison
the crowd control it gives you is way too important imo
zinc socket
How is the stealth debuff of the ice grenades treating you?
storm bison
Tried the nades a bit yesterday
vast valve
only really hurts vs oppressors
storm bison
It's still ok
vast valve
still freezes macteras no problem
zinc socket
opressors, and dreadnaughts are much harder to ice
storm bison
Pheros have taken the most imo
zinc socket
I run cryo on my driller, and I've noticed I can't just lock down a dreadnaugfht anymore
storm bison
Highly unreliable they can still attack you it's a mess
vast valve
max damage + ice storm OC on cryo does more damage than the strongest flamer build its actually nuts
storm bison
The rolly polies have always been weak to elements
I could try to go solo edd this time around
vast valve
ive soloed the past 3
scout every time i just tunnel vision the objective like a madman