Because Bosco is op.
#deep-dive-discussion
feral atlas
austere pond
For you
sour fjord
But Marchallmo, I want to experience the benefit of friends in video games with none of the expectant social investments.
austere pond
Playing with others is still more fun
@sour fjord Well, saying yourself that won't do you any good
feral atlas
For you.
austere pond
Don't think of what would you do if you were better as a person, be better
sour fjord
@austere pond I know I know :). Thanks friend.
austere pond
@feral atlas If you don't enjoy playing normal dds there's no reason to grind them, it'll just make your experience worse imo
feral atlas
It's just to see the cores pile up.
austere pond
I've seen your ingame level I think, you should have all OCs already
feral atlas
I might just cheat them someday so i can skip this.
austere pond
THere's no point in playing DDs anymore
feral atlas
There really isn't. I'm just too completionist for my own good.
normal dives are boring but not too bad; it's the pub people that are the problem, and I don't intend to drag my friends into a snoozefest
austere pond
I always duo dds with my friend, both elite and normal
If I wasn't I'd play EDDs occasionaly with competent randoms and ignore DD entirely
Once you have all the good ocs(for the classes you play) there's barely any point really
Considering how 80% of them are just filler compared to the top ones
feral atlas
welll, give me all the helmets
feral atlas
4 each class
feral atlas
the one people actually want is iron cyclops
austere pond
What's that?
Didn't even know there were more lmao
I have the techy hard hat on scout
I want iron cyclops now
damn it
sacred fossil
You and me both brother.
sour fjord
I am filled with intense desire.
stiff idol
Grim spectre half mask looks great with one of the great fork beards .. makes you look like a metal chinned robo dwarf
vital fossil
I posted in lfg but our group is desperate for an experienced scout for our EDD, check LFG for an invite
coarse rock
Rock and stone! Joined this weekend
brittle relic
welcome!
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restive idol
GUYS
I'm about to do my first Deep Dive! Advice? Tips? Tricks?
What did you wish you knew before starting one?
hot rain
depends on what class are you playing
fringe kettle
ignore gold
get as much nitra as possible
don't waste time
That also being said, don't rush. If you rush and don't pay attention to hidden dangers, you'll be in deep trouble.
hot rain
this weeks DD has an aquarq/blackbox mission specifically, Id recommend doing the black box first before the hordes from the point extraction build up
feral atlas
Start black boxes as the first timed wave is dying down
otherwise, you basically initiate a failure spiral
magic geode
So after multiple attempts at completing the EDD this week with a party, I was able to clear it solo without too much difficulty. Are solo deep dives easier than a full party or did i just get lucky?
unkempt portal
how to join deep dive with random?? I try to choose join but there is only a "grey" server even thought said server doesn't have full team
latent hamlet
@magic geode there is player scaling (1 to 2 players is same difficulty, 3 is slightly harder, 4 is hardest). applies to all missions and all haz's
@unkempt portal you can only join deep dives that havent started
jaunty trellis
How long would it take to finish a deep dive
unkempt portal
can I create a deep dive room for a friend that doesn't even promote yet??
latent hamlet
im not sure you can
just host a deep dive and try to invite him
if it doesnt work he has to promote first
frail zodiac
he can get in but game wont start probably
coral tulip
celest oasis
New dives today 
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brisk jackal
Any tips for a driller on solo EDD other than constant bunkering?
bitter garnet
Thats the opossite of a tip
Never bunker
Or you will never be able to learn to begin with
worthy epoch
Hi, I picked up the game yesterday and liked it very much, although I pretty much had no clue, what was going on around me.^^
In the space rig, at the terminal where i could join this discord, I can now join one of three factions.
What consequences does that have?
bitter garnet
@worthy epoch This is not the correct chat for that, it's #drg-chat (or in this case #interplanetary-miners-union ) . To answer you question though, it's more about ideologies than anything. They give monthly "objectives" to fullfill depending of your faction and the reward is random every month (except for the credits).
So join by ideology instead of going for the easy or whichever gives you the mineral you want.
brisk jackal
@bitter garnet Yeah, but driller. I find myself limited to the massive mactera spawns and other ranged fliers
I don't know how to utilize the current tools on driller. I have to take give myself breathing room through bunkering since I only have drills and c4 unlike the amazing tools the other classes have to give themselves some breathing room
I'd like other suggestions other than not doing the one thing I've found effective so far in closing the distance with fliers
bitter garnet
@brisk jackal Macteras are x 3 weak to fire. Flamethrower goes through targets, if you have the mod to make them blow up you'll kill a bunch of them before they even fire. The Subata can 4 shot them in teh weakpoint one by one.
Bunkering is not the answer and never will be. It will make you lazy and rely on a crutch
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slate pine
time to dive
edgy sandal
subnautica music starts
brisk jackal
@bitter garnet Got it, but do you got any positioning tips? I mainly used bunkering to get myself into a good position
bitter garnet
Kite
brisk jackal
@bitter garnet I sort of understand the kiting part, though how could I have approached it with the last EDD with low grav
I found it impossible for me to kite and the first mactera swarm after the 2 grabbers come in is the one that's a door stop
south flower
Sorry , but my Deep Dives aren't updating. Do I need to restart the game?
brisk jackal
@south flower Hi, I'm Megumin. o/
south flower
yo~
brisk jackal
ye. Restart
south flower
yeah it's a blessing and a curse to be on low gravity
brisk jackal
Got the new one
vital peak
We're going live! And we have upgraded the stream! 😮
https://www.twitch.tv/ghostship_games/
south flower
Good luck with your stream!
uncut raptor
i wonder what the three stages of the edd are this week
velvet gorge
would be good to know
velvet gorge
O2
austere pond
@brisk jackal edd? what stage?
slate pine
|| 7aq 2 egg / 2 elim 150 morkite parasites/ 7aq 150 morkite shield-disruption||
my favorite part is when acid spitter chunks half of my health
and i had elemental insulation and vet depo 0_o
brisk jackal
Stage 1 Is 7 Aq 2 Egg
uncut raptor
scary!
uncut raptor
ah crap double PE? gross
uncut raptor
shield disruption sucks esp on pe
austere pond
bitter garnet
EDD ^
brisk jackal
jesus, this EDD was easier than last weeks
south flower
We finished EDD as a duo. 😄
brittle fractal
wow
austere pond
wow
foggy rivet
EDD was a joke
brittle fractal
time to spam jarate
brisk jackal
I honestly don't know how this EDD was harder than last week. I couldn't get past stage 2 for this one. I sum that up to inexperience, but I guess I'll just learn from panicking internally a lot. Edit: Stage 2 from last week*
brittle fractal
brittle relic
beautiful
bitter garnet
I must say that he didnt let me finish
austere pond
bitter garnet
If I wasnt rushed it would have came out better
austere pond
You have no proof of this whatsoever
brisk jackal
NeloDante: I must say that he didnt let me finish
also NeloDante: pops the zit
Nice set up tho
austere pond
I told him to go when he's ready
bitter garnet
Nah you didnt
bitter garnet
10 resupplies
brisk jackal
Nelo, you were the one who popped the zit
brisk jackal
he can edit
either way, why not flex on Marchallmo and show him that SONAR is the future of lighting up the caves with them proximity mines
austere pond
I actually had no idea why my micro didn't work
It was actually just a misunderstanding, nothing big
velvet gorge
Was it just me, or was the EDD VERY easy compared to standard h5 missions?
wraith shard
the new elite deep dive crashes for me everytime
reef compass
So, unfortunately, nothing useful about EDDs in here. Just a bunch of people with self esteem issues bragging about how easy the deep dive "supposedly" was for them. Sad.
austere pond
You can just ask for help if you need it
strange grove
Stickerjim, relax bud dont try so hard with your comment next time
formal dust
@reef compass sorry to hear you wiped the Elite Dive
distant steppe
@strange grove Unfortunately, several people in this channel do come across as rather arrogant. Just bad timing for @reef compass to show up, I'd say.
wraith shard
if you cant take the heat of the DD’s dont play them
there’s no secret pro code you can punch in to beat them you just have to be good and have decent teammates
austere pond
Eh, you can just play on public
Unless you live in those fake countries like australia and finland or smth
Where there are no people playing
velvet gorge
dunno, the EDD's were a lot easier than some of my h4 missions.
No insanely large caves, extraction ones with plenty of material visible and easy to find, tons of nitra. Both Juggers close to spawn for good kiting area, no shields would be normally a nightmare, but we had... 8 supplies? so it was a grenade fiesta and fast
If your group knows the basics, no double dipping, or running to other side of the map and dying
our only problem was that we had 3 people get lost in second level while one of our group died. But that was because all 3 of us were blind and kept running in a circle for good 5min
I couldnt even get the EDD first level done 2 weeks ago where it was on frost level with black box and stuff. Kept getting minimum of 1 detonator for blackbox and wiped there for 6 runs with different people and then just gave up for the week
But saying it is easier than a normal H5 mission, is not saying it s easy, just means it is EASIER
distant steppe
It's somewhat sadly amusing that the comments that followed mine kinda proved the point.
formal dust
Generally when somebody says an Elite is easy they're speaking in relation to other Elite Dives
like, this compared to the second Elite Dive back in October in the Sandblasted? no contest
fringe kettle
Actually this one is kinda easy. We had a guy who had constant lag and we did just fine.
torn wagon
I know many people are saying EDD are too hard etc. But at some point you end up having all the important OC's and people like me just come back once in a while to have a fun time. And fun for me is planning strategies to beat a more harder level. I'm fine losing the first few runs to see the cave and its mutators. The more I play a hard level the more I have to think about how I play engie for example. How can I secure some spots with foam pads etc.
That's fun for me and that's why I like a hard EDD level. The recent EDD's don't challenge me in thinking of new ways and that's what I miss. But I see the point from others too, if they have a hard time getting OC's and such. I guess it's hard to find a middle way for everyone
fringe kettle
nitra on stage 1 was a bit hidden behind the egg closest to the rig.
dread eggs are fairly exposed in their rooms so be careful when entering and dealing with enemies
distant steppe
@torn wagon The problem I see is mostly for people who want to learn how to be a better player and how to handle EDDs. Right now there really isn't a good resource for that aside from randomly running into advanced players who are willing to help in-game.
fringe kettle
aquarqs are readily available on both 1st and 3rd stages
distant steppe
The eggs are readily available too.
For once, best off popping the first one before the first swarm.
torn wagon
I agree with that. Maybe the next patch, which adds some new ways to introduce new players helps with that
formal dust
I mean there isn't really much to say for the dive
if it's actually hard, people will have tips to give out
but if most of the experienced players just breezed through it, theres not much to really cover
velvet gorge
Both eggs right next to the platform
I mean, the standard rules of the game apply
Hit your shots to prevent ammo waste
dont die
stay together
formal dust
yeah, but wouldn't really consider that Elite Dive advice
velvet gorge
and order supply when everyone is medium levels of ammo and dont double dip
😄
but that essentially is it
if your accuracy sucks donkey dick, you run out of ammo
if you dont run out of ammo
no problemo
if you stay together, you can easily ress each other if things go wrong
but if you separate, things very easily go wrong when people try and go ress solo, and you lose even more dwarves
last veldt
Important thing is to take fights inside of choke points
If a horde is coming, instead of fighting in the middle of the room go back to where you came from, which is usually a tunnel
And fight the horde there where theres less angles for the bugs to come at you from
strange grove
@distant steppe his comment made him sound like an asshole, if he wanted help he could of just asked like the guy below him said. but instead he just made a useless condescending comment. we are all here to have fun so im going to leave it at that
feral atlas
Looks like the dives are easy enough to not be worth discussing this week.
Channel is going to be dead.
feral atlas
There's no salvage or uplink sections. Also only 1 elim objective.
I'll probably just solo it later tonight with a carpet bomber build.
last veldt
Tfw still no carpet bomber
feral atlas
It's my actual solo of choice on EDD.
DD, I just solo with scout to make it go quicker.
distant steppe
@strange grove I definitely won't argue that, but having been in that position that is definitely an impression you get if you're still beginner-to-intermediate and looking for help.
brittle fractal
you hope you can steal scout's grapple and flare
feral atlas
Bosco
brittle fractal
distant steppe
I certainly agree it's better still to ask, rather than make a comment like that, though.
brittle fractal
Bosco ant a heli
feral atlas
also, no secondaries, and primaries that glow in the dark
feral atlas
dives are way too nitra rich too
you can spam zips for nitra veins
if you have bosco doing something else
fringe kettle
or my personal favorite, resupply torpedoes.
last veldt
Imo we should only keep 50% of nitra between stages
brittle fractal
I still like caves being lightened totally
distant steppe
I thought the nitra surplus on the DD was rather refreshing, especially considering the Low O2 modifier
brittle fractal
Hate shooting in the dark so much
last veldt
90% of the time we’re ending EDDs with 400+ nitra
feral atlas
shrug it's not difficult enough for me to care
brittle fractal
and slap some scout's face to remind them
feral atlas
plus with carpet, I can just shoot feet
brittle fractal
ikr
distant steppe
90% of the time we’re ending EDDs with 400+ nitra
@last veldt maybe we are, but not everyone does.
last veldt
Thats true, devs would have more insights on actual stats than us
feral atlas
the actual stats might not mean anything
suppose the win rate drops significantly
is it because the dives got harder, or the player pool got worse?
same stats can mean entirely different things if you don't take the time to try to disentangle
distant steppe
^ indeed
feral atlas
Like I once recall Killing Floor 2 devs saying that the Hell on Earth Win rate was in the neighborhood of 10%.
I played Hell on Earth. It was a snooze fest.
The problem was that the game has seasonal events and sales.
And 0 gating restrictings on difficulties.
So you get the servers absolutely filled with fresh meat trying to tackle the hardest non-modded difficulty and getting wiped.
So that 10% number was worthless.
distant steppe
Indeed.
And we've seen the same thing in DRG on free weekends and the like.
I would hope that the DRG devs have better stat data than just win rates, though.
In any case, I have no problem with some "gateway" EDDs for players still climbing the learning curve to try to get up to speed.
feral atlas
Meh. I just want the ability to buy my way out of it now.
Woudl rather play 3 haz5s than 1 EDD
fathom kelp
This week's EDD is pretty straightforward to solo, glad to see
The last one is a bit rough due to stage 3 damage + no shields, but otherwise good
teal flume
Doing mule without triangulation is really comfortable
Overall it was quite easy this week
velvet gorge
Not my nitra
I spammed 500 nitra as supplies in last stage of EDD
UNLIMITED PROXY MINES
hot rain
there was more nitra in this weeks standard DD than any before
feels like theres more nitra in these things every week
teal flume
RNG gods treating us well
hot rain
I wish the rng gods would give us a challenge for once lol
terse river
What's the EDD like?
hot rain
very easy this week
only thing that might provide trouble is stage 3s shield disruption but by then you have a near unlimited amount of nitra
terse river
What mission types and sub-missions we got?
hot rain
fathom kelp
Wait a second
This week's DD doesn't have a drop pod on the last stage?
I'm so weirded out.
untold walrus
This is probably off-topic but do you need to complete missions on a certain hazard level to finish the Breach The Core assignment?
quiet wyvern
not to my knowledge, but i do know you have to beat the assignment to get Hazard 5, on Hazard 4
mighty hinge
honest tide
#drg-chat usually moves pretty fast, but you'll usually get your questions answered there
vital peak
Live now with this week's EDD!
We have also added all four player perspectives to the stream
https://www.twitch.tv/ghostship_games
brittle fractal
austere pond
brittle fractal
solar roost
im not digging this weeks dd elite
unique palm
this weeks edd was my first one and i had a good time with it, couple close calls in the last mission without any shield but other than that not too hard
celest oasis
unkempt portal
is deep dive rewards only once every week??
willow tulip
Yes
vast valve
yes for the actual core rewards, but it can be redone for credits and experience
storm bison
I wonder if some normal deep dives are worth the pot of gold rush ?
maybe if there is at the very least two "mining missions" layout in the run
hollow cloud
How much of a step up in dificulty if the elite deep dives from normal ones?
storm bison
Normal ones are like... haz 3.5 haz 4 haz 4.5 the elite ones goes by 4.5, 5 and 5.5
It's fairly rare to struggle in normal deep dives even with new players
hollow cloud
I never had a problem in normal deep dives, even solo
so im wondering if its time to try elite
storm bison
In elite some of them are extremely hard to the point that you might need a well organized group so it's up to you
hollow cloud
or rather, time to get my teeth kicked in
storm bison
I don't know if this one is nasty or fair for new elite divers
hollow cloud
im guessing solo is not rly an option in elite?
storm bison
It is
It's just that i rarely go solo
Tho i guess scout all the way and that's it
Rush the objectives and be done with it
hollow cloud
yee
its either than or find a group on this discord, not doing it with randoms without VC
storm bison
Well.... you will have randoms in this discord
outer dome
you can check what changes with hazard on the wiki:
https://deeprockgalactic.gamepedia.com/Difficulty_Scaling
storm bison
Unless you mean the veteran ones
hollow cloud
mean more just join a random one from the list:p
storm bison
But i only know the french vets from the french discord i don't use this one often
Oh less random you mean ? Well it didn't work once here for me
Peps were also random here
But with a mic on
hollow cloud
at least possible to organize somewhat
eh, gonna go in solo, get my teeth kicked in
hollow cloud
a dreadnaught mission... thats gonna be tough solo
full saddle
just be prepared to try a few times and you'll get it
hot rain
this weeks is pretty easy once you get the nitra ball rolling
the first stage has no modifiers and the second is only parasite both have plenty of nitra so by the time you get to the shield disrupt you should have enough nitra to steamroll it
wind nest
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/636938619969470474/685939910992986120/unknown.png so much nitra 🥔
hallow wagon
I was surprised by how easily we got through stage 3 of the EDD, second one wiped us the first go though.
wicked cloud
What're the modifiers on EDD?
hallow wagon
wicked cloud
Nice
Not too bad
What's the difficulty like on EDD? Kinda like Haz 3?
Cause Normal DD feels like 2
fringe kettle
4.5-5-5.5
difficulty in practice depends on the objectives, modifiers, and whatever waves the game decides to spawn.
wicked cloud
😬
hallow wagon
iirc regular DD is 3-3.5-4
wicked cloud
Really doesn't feel like it to me
Maybe Point Extract
Cause I feel like that kind of mission ramps up the enemies
hot rain
I really would like more difficult EDDs or another option entirely that provides a higher difficulty
celest oasis
Regular deep dive is haz 3-3.5-3.5
Pretty sure it was 3-3.5-4 at one point, but got downgraded?
hot rain
yeah I also thought there was a point where it was haz 4 last
split grove
Man, having shield disruption on last stage of an EDD is always brutal. Christ
brittle fractal
and still pass it like oiled machine
hot rain
by then you have such a ridiculous amount of nitra
at least if you gathered up some in stage 2
brittle fractal
350 in the second run
f* this, spam it
if you're running M1K+boomstick, dont stop shooting
delete everything you saw
woeful cave
So j got my drilled up to Max level sit bar the equipment screen says Promotion Available but there's no Promotion button on character select screen
How do I promote?
grave zenith
You need to complete a promotion assignment first
silent anchor
Someone tell me what makes the oppressor different from the rest
It looks like a more upgraded Proclean (if that's the name)
violet sandal
It's basically the bigger, tougher brother of the Praetorian.
latent hamlet
you cant damage him from the front at all, he can dig, and he has an aoe attack that does a lot of knockback
silent anchor
Ooof xwx
sullen current
EDD was a breeze lol
Went in and basically ez carried 2 <level 20's through it, no biggie. Final one has a shield disruption, but it's a pretty good map
hollow summit
today I learned that a gunner's sticky grenade can and will stick to a teammate who dodges into it and frag the both of you, resulting in all four dwarves going down
I learned this during an elite deep dive no less
my first EDD
someone popped iron will and we managed to chain revive our way through that
my first completed EDD too
hollow cloud
first complete EDD^^ duo scout and gunner
brittle fractal
what can possibly go wrong
peak glacier
geez, why was this week's normal dive so easy
we had almost 600 nitra at the end
even when the first stage had shield disruption and the second low o2
hot rain
yeah this weeks was a real blowout
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rose trench
if we repeat DD do we get more cores?
rose trench
bah, faster from missions it seems
fathom kelp
Unless you failed a stage, in which case you can go again to get the ones you missed
rose trench
tyvm for info
fathom kelp
Well yeah. Breach the core is faster, but you do all three for 9 total cores a week
o7
hazy flame
DDs are the end game content, right?
graceful bolt
austere pond
EDDs and Hazard 5 are endgame currently
DDs are all hazard 3, so I wouldn't call them endgame
storm quail
for some reason jadiz is really hard to farm
either it doesn't spawn or some knucklehead pushes the button on the mule while you're digging for a piece of that stuff
I need more promoted dwarves so I can play something else than Gunner in DDs
quiet mortar
Mineral Mania, Fungus Bogs.
You'll be good for like 4 Overclocks.
quiet mortar
Yeah ok, I'm over selling it a bit.
Though if you get a 400 Morkite Mission you'll be fine.
austere pond
Eh, I'd say it's still far too rare
Don't forget, you can't control when that mission spawns
I have thousands of magnite and umanite
Yet almost no jadiz and croppa
Those 2 are way too commonly used in OCs
trim bough
If you're have that much trouble finding Jadiz, I'd say sell the gems you have over a thousand of and use those credits to buy the Jadiz
craggy delta
whats this weeks deep dives missins on the epic dd
distant steppe
don't listen to SunlitDracos, 1000 of any crafting resource doesn't last terribly long. 😛
mystic minnow
If a hoarder spawns on a stage of a deep dive, does that mean it will always spawn?
hallow estuary
think so
hot rain
It will always spawn as long as you have the same amount of people in your party since the enemy spawns are based on group size
If its spawning in a group of 4 it may not spawn in a group of 2
mystic minnow
Oh. So some things change depending on group size?
short wave
more enemies spawn for more players
zenith minnow
faint otter
This week's elite was like, really easy wtf
faint otter
Boy I sure hope we get ones with 3 modifiers soon
lime jay
I just picked up the <45m achievement on my first DD. Are they normally this easy?
untold tundra
lol
sour orchid
can DRG just give one overclock per deep dive mission
celest oasis
It gives blank core, oc then cosmetic oc
However if you already got all weapon oc its blank, blank , cosmetic I think
sour orchid
does it give overclock every time i deep dive?
i have done 2 deep dive this week and recieved only one weapon overcolck and 1 blank matrix
versed willow
civic tiger
So I just got drg on steam and I played a little last night. Really enjoying it, good job devs 👍
latent hamlet
this is the wrong chat technically for that kinda praise, but glad you are enjoying it 😄
icy grail
Always glad to see a Deep Dive fail mostly because someone quit >->
rare whale
new player, is multi turret or one stronger turret considered to be better?
haven't really gotten to the stage where turret gets that destroyed or has that much difficulty killing enemies, so I'm wondering how useless they get late game
honest tide
two turrets is theoretically higher damage per second, but it's way more ammo inefficient than the single turret
rare whale
Makes sense, thanks
honest tide
single turret is also less management than two, so it's better for a hands-off engi
violet sandal
I use gemini defender rn. No clue if it's actually decent setup but my thought process was either being able to defend from two possible advances or setting both turrets up next to each other to theoretically still have complete coverage when out in the open.
And still having decent damage.
indigo kindle
i was using them to setup kill zones but was too much work. switched back to just one
like having 2 angles on the same spot type deal
violet sandal
Yeah, overlapping fields of fire can be really helpful too.
Especially if you're pretty certain about where the enemy is going to be coming from.
charred radish
so are there no minerals at all in deep dives?
indigo kindle
there is but they seem sparse this week. tbh it was my first one and i didnt see much
even the last part, wasnt much gold but lots of nitra
charred radish
I just did one for the first time too, and only minerals we got was from
a loot hoarder
meager topaz
The EDD seems real easy this week
hot rain
youre correct. this weeks is the easiest that I can remember
rare vale
Second Stage really felt like a speedrun dream, from my perspective.
hot rain
this weeks EDD is a speed run dream in general
wide bloom
Who else thinks that beard decorations should be a thing
Imagine it, golden dusted beards.
Seems like itd be a fun thing having more accessory options and what better way than beards right?
honest tide
Gilded and armoured beards are kinda like that
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flint tapir
thx mission control.
brittle fractal
thx mission control, I hate you
alpine zealot
Ready and waiting!
wicked cloud
Well. Guess I'm gonna play a solo EDD tonight to see What it do
muted wadi
I can help ya out if you want @wicked cloud
wicked cloud
Nah, I'm under the umbrella that if I can't do something solo the first time around, I shouldn t do it
And this is supposedly an easy EDD so it should be fine
As long as it isn't a Point Extract maybe.. 🤔
muted wadi
it has 2 point extractions, the second one being the third one and also has shield disruption
muted wadi
Alrighty, im here to lend a hand if need be
Just recommend stockpiling nitra for the third level, you'll need it
delicate dagger
wraith shard
i just solo'd my first elite deep dive
and the last one was shield disruption
holy fuck it was stressful :(((((
probably bad but idc
wide bloom
@wraith shard gunner is the best option for solo runs in my opinion
When the swarm hits i legit just tennel a 6 foot hole in the wall and spray its entrance open as enemys tunnel into my kill hole
Its usually too small for bigger enemys to climb into too
torpid bolt
I usually play driller and cryo the entrance to my kill hole
And also use drills on the frozen enemies, like preatorians
tacit iron
i need to just keep running lol
@wraith shard As a fellow scout, I agree. nothing beats good mobility and visibility.
plus, 1 shotting most enemies with m1000 is pretty handy
pliant dragon
whats a deep dive?
pliant dragon
har har
royal sparrow
is it worth it to do a deep dive alone, or will i get shit on?
royal sparrow
oh ok
unkempt cape
Deep dive elite is haz5 ?
bitter coyote
5.5
west gorge
What are the best upgrades for the shotgun and grenade launcher in the elite deep dive for engineer?
fringe kettle
depends on the modifiers
if it's mactera you want incendiary and possibly prox detonation. For the shotgun, I personally really like mini shells.
west gorge
Mini shells...?
fringe kettle
it's an unstable OC
west gorge
Oh!
fringe kettle
The gist of it is it cuts your damage in half in exchange for twice the ammo.
feral atlas
not half
fringe kettle
I don't have the game up to get the exact number
feral atlas
base per pellet damage goes from 6 to 4
given that the damage mod on row 4 is the obvious option for any engi with a brain
in practice, it goes from 8 to 6
wraith shard
@tacit iron yes tbh
clever crest
literally all shotgun o'clocks are great.
hot rain
ehhh
clever crest
that highlights the awesomeness of both the weapon and the class.
hot rain
its kind of the same as the mini to me, where the weapon is good with base mods so theres not really a way for an oc to mess it up too much.
clever crest
you can make it into a sort of battle rifle via mag choke, into a pure facemelting dakka nexus via cyclic whatnot, into a gentle but neverending plinking device via mini shells, or just green it straight up.
and it will still be amazing and fun to use.
point is, there is no best way to build it, it's balanced enough to let setup be defined by style and preference.
(and o'clock availability)
feral atlas
there is a best way to build it
but the weapon is strong enough that it does not become necessary all the time
clever crest
lol
feral atlas
It's like choosing between a John Deere and a nuke to mow your lawn.
Optimal build may vary between mission types.
But there is a best build for every specific one.
Like, nobody in their right mind takes anything other than bigger pellets in row 4 if they're playing seriously.
clever crest
so what you're saying is that you can't distinguish between statements 'there is no clear cut best choice' and 'there are no poor choices'.
feral atlas
There is always a clear cut best choice for a specific misison type.
You take DPS builds on dread.
Ammo builds for mining.
Hybrid for eggs and PE
Just because nothing sucks so bad that it's throwing doesn't mean that there aren't clearly superior options
How seriously you should min max the weapon depends on how good you are; if you're skilled enough you have a margin for error to take worse builds
But if you're bad at engi, you should take a min-max build
ancient valley
feral atlas
This week is unusually easy for both
You can probably afk on the regular dive and let a maxxed out steeve slasher or a guard solo the mission
I solo'd my regular dive and watched bosco and a guard steeve 0 to death both dreads on stage 3
unkempt cape
Awww. Steeve.
wicked cloud
Gonna do it in a few hours, but suggestions for someone going into their first EDD solo (with Bosco)?
wicked cloud
I figured that much
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willow vector
I'm yet to do an EDD, cos ive bearly even touched Haz5.. Dont wanna let the team down :p
I like sticking to Haz 3/4s, seems like a good level to play the game... maybe thats just an excuse for sucking who knows
rare vale
I feel ya
lime jay
Ditto, heh. I don't feel like I'm ready for the EDD yet, though I want those overclocks.
wicked cloud
EDD time 🙂
rare vale
I still find someone to join off of anyway because I want all the weapon OCs
hot rain
If theres anyone that needs help for a last minute EDD I'd be down to help
lime jay
If you don't mind a single promotion noob, I'd love to find a EDD group.
hot rain
It wasnt a problem at all, you guys were more reliable than some of the 200+ players Ive seen in EDDs
fair warning though this weeks is a fairly easy one, point extractions make for a real easy clear
lime jay
I was surprised how easy the normal DD was this week, it was my first.
hot rain
both of this weeks are real easy to run with the massive amount of nitra you get
but the normal DD is only haz 3-3.5
wicked cloud
Died on the third mission when I needed ~30 morkite
I fucking hate how many enemies spawn on these missions.
hot rain
you have to tackle point extractions a little differently than a regular mission
wicked cloud
Wow, I didn't realize that I have to rush the objectives on these missions
I know how P.E works.
Even AS a gunner, whose literal job is to kill these bugs
I STILL get swarmed by how many there are.
hot rain
well if you know how it works you shouldnt have a problem with the horde management
wicked cloud
What kinda logic is that
You can have problems with something even if you know what to do
hot rain
Then you might just need more practice on haz 4.
wicked cloud
I spent an hour doing that shit
wicked cloud
Yet again, I'm familiar with all this. I go at my own pace, pick up what I want, and do the objectives
This time I was basically forced into doing the objective cause I almost always went down every mission.
hot rain
I understand that and respect that style of playing, but in the deep dive you have to keep a tempo. Especially so on a point extraction since they require you to be faster and know a good pace.
wicked cloud
I guess the only problem I have is that it feels like I don't get any breathing room
I got 2 hordes on me at the same time on the first mission
hot rain
the point extraction comes with the regular timed swarms as well as large silent hordes that spawn periodically and increase as the timer goes on. The two can overlap and result in a seemingly non-stop horde
lilac laurel
Hey Randy! I couldn't help but notice how much of a FUCKING RETARD you sounded like! I really love helping people so I will try to be as concise as possible. I know it really helps for people like you haha! You see if you know what you need to do but keep failing that means you are either DOGSHIT at the game and need to uninstall, or you should fucking know what you are doing wrong and fix it! That's it! It is that easy! Instead of harassing people in a passive aggressive manor you could instead realize the advice the given to you initially was already more than the likes of you deserves. If you know how it works like you boldly claimed then you should know what to work on! What to improve! What to put that MOTHERFUCKING GRIND TIME TO. Only an hour? that's pussy time! If you wanna be a winner stop bitching to others that you know how to do it, when you obviously don't, and instead apply that wasted bitch time towards GRIND TIME.
lilac laurel
😎
full saddle
is there something wrong with your brain twiggzy
lilac laurel
I put too much time on the GRIND TIME BABY
wicked cloud
Of course I was aggressive. I wasted an hour doing this mission. I know what I did wrong and that was stop moving
lilac laurel
buT YoURe AlWayS DrInkINg DAD
hot rain
I wouldn't trust it much either
lilac laurel
but for real. if you know what you need to do it is a process of elimination
wicked cloud
I'm sorry that I came off as aggressive
lilac laurel
by taking out the things you did wrong untill you slowly approach the green zone
as there are more than likely multiple ways to successfully clear a mission
so just slowly take out the wrongs
hot rain
Its fine frustration after failing out a deep dive that far in is understandable
wicked cloud
If you said it like that and not the way you did before then I would like you more
Just saying
lilac laurel
Okay but i dont like myself
brittle fractal
??
wicked cloud
I died getting a resupply from the pod with about 30 morkite left to mine
Mostly cause I needed HP and I had the perk to resupply faster
If anything I'll just do it with other people. But that's not gonna happen tomorrow cause MHW came out with a new update.
edgy sandal
I came here to see when the next deep dives were...and i stumble along this conversation. Ah
edgy sandal
Thx
edgy sandal
Aight ima sleep, continue what ever this conversation is
lilac laurel
is that a threat
brittle fractal
what makes it a threat...
hidden venture
who im banning?
nocturne wagon
what are the affixs this week for deepdives?
hot rain
for current ones or the ones coming in 5 hours?
nocturne wagon
new one
hot rain
we wont know until they come out
nocturne wagon
ah kk
hot rain
One of the early runners will most likely post a screen cap once they reset
chilly flicker
Man I lost in the wait for the droppod on the last stage on the EDD
Thought I could solo it but I guess I am not getting the cosmetic this week
Too tired
austere pond
@nocturne wagon I will be doing them soon after they release and post pic of all stages/their modifiers
I've been doing that for the past 3 EDDs iirc, so if you need to know what's waiting for you, just search my posts in this channel that have links
nocturne wagon
okay cool, ty
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austere pond
Thank you mission control, very cool
wraith shard
ok
flint tapir
i'm ready.
jade nebula
Let’s go
foggy rivet
EDD gang
jade nebula
EDD solo speedrun gang 
foggy rivet
lmao
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foggy rivet
HYPE
jade nebula
POOOG
foggy rivet
BRUH IT SHOWS -1 min
jade nebula
b r u h
foggy rivet
first missions is elim with ghost omg
brittle fractal
willow vector
Damn I hate haunted caves
foggy rivet
no not nice
brittle fractal
the terrain is focked?
brittle fractal
F
foggy rivet
its ok
honest tide
sounds fun
bitter garnet
This EDD is the hardest in one or two months
bitter garnet
The first two stages were quite something
austere pond
Way harder than previous 2 months
foggy rivet
yea it sure was harder
brittle fractal
oh noice
foggy rivet
which is good
bitter garnet
Third stage was easy but exploder infestation on magma core can always surprise you
and if you get too comfy it may end the run
jade nebula
Rich atmosphere stage one, super speeeed
brittle fractal
supersonic noise
inner void
eww
black box PE suuucks
almost even more than PE + dread because you can't kite it around
phero cheese it is
wispy gazelle
How shitty is it
austere pond
Recommend you bring driller or you'll have to mine through like 10-20 meters of smooth ice
wispy gazelle
Wait you didn't have a driller?
austere pond
We do have a drilelr
But if you don't you're stuck there
Especially as solo
For like several minutes
Just holding m2
wispy gazelle
oomf
uncut raptor
other than that, dd easy as always
austere pond
https://i.imgur.com/psMpUuN.png NORMAL DD
austere pond
Second stage EDD is the hardest stage of any EDD in the last month imo
bitter garnet
'Cause we had only easy as fuck EDDs lately basically
brittle fractal
flint tapir
edd 1stage very hard 🤔
brittle fractal
🤔
iron berry
WELCOME TO THE WEEKLY DEEP DIVES, BOYS. THIS WEEK, WE'RE DIVING DEEPER THAN THE DOW JONES!!
brittle fractal
OOF
wraith shard
BUY THE DIP ANON
brittle fractal
Bogged
lament sage
... I'm comparing the deep dive i did last night w/ the weekly reddit thread, and the previous weekly reddit thread, and the dive I did doesn't match either thread to my memory
what am I misunderstanding?
plucky gate
@austere pond thank you, you are my hero for uploading those
quiet wyvern
What are the code names of the DD's week?
lament sage
Yeah but I also checked last week's thread
fringe kettle
Today is Thursday. It reset today. Ergo it's a new one today.
After my 3 attempts today I've come to the conclusion that the EDD needs steeper restrictions imposed on it. One thing is for sure, this weeks EDD really shows if you're pulling your weight or not.
plucky gate
@fringe kettle restrictions? Wdym?
@austere pond Yeah, I have a big group we are doing planning for the dds for tomorrow so its great to see the mission types and modifiers ahead of time.
austere pond
If you guys are new I suggest you should always look for these incase there are Point Extraction missions as third stage
Because if you have those you have to rush the first 2, really fast
Otherwise welcome to heck
lament sage
... ok i'm looking at the subreddit now and I swear I was seeing entirely different threads
austere pond
Wdym?
lament sage
I was saying before that the dd I did last night didn't match the thread I saw on the subreddit, nor the thread linked as "last week's" deep dive thread
but now the new thread is up as of 50 minutes ago, and 'last weeks" matches the dd I did
idk, just weird
fringe kettle
yes because it just reset on March 12
@plucky gate Some sort of assignment set in haz 5 missions in addition to the completion of a normal deep dive. Half of all the groups I've been in today shouldn't have even attempted the EDD.
feral atlas
the kinda shifts the problem from EDD pubs to haz5 pubs
fringe kettle
failing a haz 5 is typically less of a time sink than failing an EDD.
hot rain
This EDD any more interesting than last weeks?
quiet wyvern
Gonna do a 4 man Engi squad with One man on the EDD, we'll all have Fat Boy XD lol
plucky gate
@fringe kettle ???
Do you play in Public or something? I mean if so, you can't expect much.
feral atlas
it's not about failing Haz5
more about just dodging the hosts who will reasonably become more kick happy
if you're just gonna shift around the dead weight, might as well give hosts filters
plucky gate
So y'all are saying this weeks DD and EDD are more difficult/interesting than usual?
wicked cloud
That's one hell of a yikes
feral atlas
as far as I can tell, they're average
or below average
playerbase is just weaker and less experienced due to the influx
I'm not seeing any salvage defense primaries, stage 2/3 shield disrupts or lethal, so at most this looks like an average difficulty dive
but you're getting a bunch of people who have just been here for two weeks trying them
If you're playing pubs in the near future, you'll have to be selective and kick happy if you want to beat it in one go.
plucky gate
I dont play pubs so all good
edgy imp
the dude who invented the ghost is a sadist
big one
i mean im not that good yet but jesus first mission in edd is hard
feral atlas
you have speed hacks
if you lose to a slow ass ghost while on a speed hacks mission
i don't think the ghost is the problem
rich forge
This black box on stage two EDD sucks
It's fallen into a fiery hell three times for me already
manic hedge
Huh the first stage was ez. Have the guy who is it bring ghost away then run back
No leeches either so its free real estate
tardy crane
do any of you happen to have an idea why my friend cant see our assignments and we cant see his? :c
(sorry to disturbe with such a random question, i wasnt sure where else to ask 🙂 )
manic hedge
Are you sure its selected
tardy crane
yes. we tried abandon it before too, and reselecting, nothing changed
manic hedge
Restart tje server
lavish hatch
cool fucking deep dive
the black box fell into a crack and basically bricked that mission
brittle fractal
F
blackbox wasnt floating
until a leaf lover ask them to let it effect by gravity
to build what they called coazy BUNKER
rich forge
This black box is pretty RNG with the crack
austere pond
This week's edd is harder than previous month's imo
Some of those were easier than DDs
This one can actually be challenging
Tho blackbox falling into crevasse is bs
rich forge
I thought is was pretty moderate for difficulty excluding the bs black box
hot rain
it feels pretty standard
austere pond
If you have driller, you just get to have a very shitty defensive position that costs a lot of fuel
If you don't, gg I guess lmao
hot rain
we've just had so many below average EDDs that the perception is skewed now
austere pond
That's why I'm not saying if it is average or hard
Just that it is harder than the last month's
I remember the hardest deep dives from months ago and this is nothing compared to those EDDs
But my perception is scewed by the recent ones, so I can only say that
hot rain
only difficulty I had this week was an engi panicking and nuking the point when the bulk showed up
and then proceeding to blame the scout for lack of flares lol
austere pond
I'm always kick happy when it comes to nuke engies
One almost killed me today
Because he used proximity pgl nuke
hot rain
genius
austere pond
It took all of my shield, half of my hp and got 1 tick od radiation before I left the massive radius
These events aren't uncommon, so those engis are like one of the very few people I'd be kicking without much thought
Not to mention the oc isn't even good
But that's not a valid argument to kick people
hot rain
usually by the time someone misuses it the game is over anyway so i hardly need to kick for it
rich forge
The ghost never spawned for me in EDD stage one
small fable
Which is the best duo for the game?
distant steppe
depends on the mission/dive
if we're talking deep dives, I find driller/gunner to be fairly strong
also depends on what equipment you're each taking along
small fable
is driller good enough for trios?
distant steppe
I'd say yes
Driller and scout are the two classes you can probably skip for trios the most easily.
Each has its strengths, I just prefer driller for the versatility to the team
small fable
what does "skip for trios" mean? sry not my main language
also does using nitra for ammo during a mission mean that u lose xp or something?
tranquil adder
No. The XP stays.
distant steppe
No worries. I was saying that scout and driller are the two classes you can most easily play without on a team of three.
wraith shard
@small fable mission control says that credits are withdrawn but that's actually a leftover from old resupplies system
when you had to pay for your ammo with credits
not a thing anymore though
you don't lose anything from ordering resupplies
rustic knoll
Hey all! New to the channel and just failed the deep dive due to infinitely spawning mobs....is this normal? They just didn't stop spawning, and then another wave activated during the same onslaught. It wasn't an extraction mission so much as a last-man-standing failure.
jade nebula
yoo i was watching the "you so, ****ing, precious when you..." and it got deleted there (on dd-speedrun). dunno who saw it or deleted it but man that got me laughing
velvet vine
So uhh, this shit happened to me.
The black box fell into a magma core chasm.
I don't think this is supposed to happen, is it?
velvet vine
I don't feel like it should happen, though.
outer tide
God i love magmacore
velvet vine
It basically ruins your entire deep dive.
willow tulip
Yeah, it shouldn't
velvet vine
So, who should I report this nonsense to?
rich forge
They really shouldn't spawn under objectives like that
Around the objective is fine
rich forge
Ain't that bad
Just ask your driller to throw a C4 on it if it's that much of a problem
rich forge
My 2nd run cracked and had a detonator spawn at the same time
It was an instant abort
It would be fine if it only cracked around the objective and not right under it
rich forge
Especially in Magma core
If it somehow happen in Glacial it wouldn't be a problem
It's the constant fire damage that mainly ruins it
velvet vine
Yeah and not really being able to get out of it
And having to dig into it to make it a viable point
But the digging will only cause more fire ground
rich forge
Yup
rich forge
All I can say is I hope RNG is in your favor
celest oasis
Some Grenades can destroy fire vent if driller is out of c4
Or guns that can do environmental dmg can
torn wagon
I lost the first 4 times and won the 5th try. It was quite exhausting but I liked it. Regarding the cracks: I was like "wow really" the first 3 times too. But then I took Driller and made some nice bunking below the objective and it went well after that. That's what I like about a hard EDD: Fail - learn - improve/be creative. Usually I don't like bunkers but in such bad RNG cases I let it slide.^^
How I did the bunker if anyone needs advice: A long straight tunnel from entrance to far below the objective (far, in case a bulk spawns so he has a long way digging down then), get the box, Engie closed hole, make the room bigger, prepare another tunnel with a wall at the end for escaping after.
tropic cape
Looking for more expert advice than what ive been getting in drg-chat but scout mains, what is your build for the Mk1000 with Electric OC
im running 1-1-1-1-1 but debating whether I should switch to extended clip on T3
I heard someone mention in here that its better to mag dump into weakpoints instead of focus shots, is that still the case?
bitter garnet
tropic cape
interesting, you use hollowpoint with electric focus shots OC?
tropic cape
Did they change it? I remember people raving about using it for the blowthrough
bitter garnet
This allows you to one shot (hipfire): web spitters on the body, grunts on the head, acid spitters on the head. (Focus shot): grunts on the body, slashers/guards on the head, mactera spawn.
It allows to two shot (focus): Wardens, Bombers
Three shot (focus): Menaces
Blowthrough is unreliable
M1K is about removing priority targets
tropic cape
Oh gotcha
Yea I had noticed inconsistencies getting maximum value from blow through on weird terrain
bitter garnet
Taht's why
fresh lake
its possible respect perks?
bitter garnet
Not at the moment
charred radish
is it better to do the blackbox first in the 2nd stage of EDD?
fringe kettle
Get as many aquarqs and nitra as you can before the first wave. After which immediately start the black box. You’ll either get bulks or a fissure directly under the box. Maybe both.
brittle fractal
Didnt got a bulk while I rush the blackbox
charred radish
finding dumb lobbies and i hate solo so ill skip the EDD
unique palm
yea this edd is pretty brutal i feel like
i've died on stage 2 like 3 times now
first attempt i had 2 people that had like 100 hours in scout and nothing else that went pretty badly
unique palm
fucks sake
we had a decent run going but then our driller made a bunker for the black box and our engie said they don't play with bunkers and left
torn wagon
:/ I would agree with him, if the chance for earthquakes wouldn‘t be that high. Devs made it without a bunker too but they didn’t encounter one which was pretty lucky for them.
Anyways, leaving while in EDD sucks. If they don‘t like it, they should say it before start
unique palm
i've never done that strat before, the driller just made the bunker without anyone noticing, then we were like ok black box time and that happened
it didn't seem like it would be a very good strat for a black box
unique palm
just tried it again and this time we got fissures on the black box so we basically had a makeshift bunker and it was in fact not a good strat
torn wagon
It's not a bad strat, more like a cheesy strat. It makes fighting bugs less engaging and too easy, because everyone just stands and shoots into the tunnel. That's why many people don't like it (I belong to them too). But I encountered the "fissure directly below objective" problem in every run so I made one myself. I thought it was necessary while playing in public with random people
unique palm
hmm ok, i'd never seen it before in like 175 hours, no idea somethign so divisive existed
torn wagon
Still, I'd never leave if a driller makes a bunker. I just refuse to go in and survive anyways ^^
while the others in the bunker die because of oppressors and/or bulks
unique palm
yea the fact that he went "i don't play like that, goodbye" really peeved me off
torn wagon
I guess it's easier doing it solo lol. Didn't complete the EDD fully because I just wanted to try something at stage 2 box. Until I left after my experiment (around 30 minutes in), I didn't encounter a single fissure.
torpid bolt
Im not a huge fan of bunker either, but there are a few rare cases where it's almost an absolute necessity...like a couple weeks ago the EDD first stage was brutal if you didn't have an engie...those mactera...
torn wagon
I agree. There was another stage in fungus with mactera plague. A small but high ceiling room had the box and nitra was rare as well. In the end, I created a roof with platforms, so they all came roughly from the same direction. If you go with voice chat and people you know, it sure would have been possible otherwise. But with random people it's not always that easy.
light ice
Blackbox fell into a earthquake tare... lost the mission ¬¬
rare vale
Same
austere pond
Oof
Seems like it's a consistent occurrence
Good thing I avoided it somehow
If you encounter this issue I would suggest speedrunning stages
Ignore gold and rush objectives and extract the moment you're able to
hot rain
For people having the black box fall in, how late into the mission are you running it?
clever crest
are ground cracking mechanics known, by the way?
is it time or facecheck of hidden triggers? and are breaks preset?
outer dome
In glacial strata there is some small fractures present that expand when you get too close
clever crest
in particular, are they the same reach run?
outer dome
No idea for magma core, we only know that there isn’t nothing to indicate the fracture location beforehand.
austere pond
There is a small animation that tells you it'll be there during the earthquake
But it may not appear
Because bugs I guess