You can shoot through shields now, at least with the minigun.
#deep-dive-discussion
versed willow
timid spoke
do deep dives scale to players like every other mission?
midnight spindle
This has been an amazing edd attempt. Great player, no bulk on stage 2 refuelling. Thank you rngesus.
timid spoke
i wish i got that lucky @midnight spindle lol. i havent been able to get past stage 2
wraith shard
Yes they scale
timid spoke
thanks major. 🙂 maybe i should try duoing it
outer pasture
How is this week's edd?
wraith shard
I find duos the easiest
celest oasis
the devs failed it twice on stream one friday
edd 4 dwarf
its really hard 2nd salvage mission
everything wants to two shot you lol
midnight spindle
Died right at the end. Took too long gathering aquarqs so when we went to fight the dreadnought it was basically a nonstop stream of swarmers and grunts.
celest oasis
yea PE is always a crapshoot if its mission3 on edd
since ambient swarms take into account the whole EDD timer on point extraction
fix when lol?
wraith shard
This why i trigger dread after first swarm so everyone would drop what they doing and force them to fight it
Swarm every 5 mins
thorny geyser
we got aquarqs first
thorny geyser
stages 1 and 2 are so fast that you dont have to rush it like that crystal cave PE few weeks back
copper cove
By the beard!
What the heck was with that opening to the Regular Deep Dive?
A spitballer, 8 mactera bombers, and swarms on top of that.
And of course the ice cracks right at the beginning and half the team falls in.
warped dome
Weirdest team I've ever played on, do people try to bot this game much?
warped dome
I have no clue, but it was weird.
celest oasis
Explain lol?
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ivory hearth
the EDD second mission is kicking my ass
ivory hearth
yeah
problem is its in a pit, there's lethal enemies, bulks, rollers
all kinds of nasty shite
copper cove
Escape pod area is fairly uniform though.
I use repellent platforms to funnel enemies into killboxes.
viscid narwhal
I somhow manged to complete the EDD with my freind and two randoms
It was my first success too, and we're both noobs
we didn't get carried either
second stage is fucking brutal. we drilled into the walls and to widen out our line of sight and we barely made it
timid spoke
yeah i havent beaten the 2nd stage after 10+ attempts lol
viscid narwhal
im starting to realize how lucky we were after hearing everyone talk about it lol
like im level 40 and hes level 18 or somthing
the other two guys weren't even that much higher and they were about as good as us
wraith shard
Spiders and acid spitters are the real threat here
Just remember to look up after killing the ground unit
And dont stop moving
solid wing
blind them with the flate gun
ivory hearth
Its not the acid spitters
its the numbers
literally like 300 enemies on that stage
So many
so much damage from grunts alone
I got up until it was "wait for drop pod to power up" and it dropped a bulk on me
had hope until I got webbed and razor'd in front of the bulk
hallow estuary
I got the bulk and oppressor during uplink
then the second time the oppressor spawned early and the bulk didnt spawn
ivory hearth
what ever rng made this fucking mission is cursed with an evil spirit
its just nasty
I'd rather fight 10 bulks at once than go through that
because I could probably actually kill the bulks
but this many enemies is just
awful
rancid prairie
any1 wanna do elite dd?
celest oasis
Imo bulks and opressors shouldnt be rng for dives
Roll of the dice too much on some missions
Leave them as in for normal missions
bitter garnet
I dont know about you but many times I prefer when the game uses their spawn points to put a Bulk over it spamming all types of grunts + spitters / wardens.
wraith shard
Maybe bulk should have a spawning time, like an animation that the bulk slowly clawling out of the ground so you can be more prepare and aware of it
wraith shard
They die really fast if taken care of properly
ivory hearth
they need to be scarier
wraith shard
I've not seen a bulk related teamwipe in several weeks
ivory hearth
bulks are really weak if you don't suck
wraith shard
♿
ivory hearth
Just fuckin' shoot it
wraith shard
They usually spawn really far away
ivory hearth
that too
wraith shard
And give you plenty of time to dispatch them
ivory hearth
I don't think they need to be tankier, but I think they need to be deadlier
wraith shard
And even if one is getting close
Ifg
Ifg a bulk and it is practically a stationary target
ivory hearth
electro rounds on gk2 turns them into a statue
what're they gonna do
Walk?
HA no
wraith shard
Ah also if you phero it it wipes normal bugs
wraith shard
Ehh no that'd be a bit too much
ivory hearth
Either make the bulk stronger or make a new bulk that makes me shit myself
I crave
DANGER
wraith shard
ivory hearth
I want versions of big enemies that equate to war crimes for merely existing.
I heard something about elven umbrella corp as a joke here
gene mod the bulks.
wraith shard
Plague bulks
ivory hearth
Either that or let them cook on the sunside surface of Hoxxes
wraith shard
All dwarves die to a virus
celest oasis
Allow bulks to spit explodey balls lol
ivory hearth
Glyphid Bulk Plaguebearer
Thats a good name
spreads gas filled with poisonous stuff as well as a virus that cripples your aim, slows you, and gives you the drunk effect. Not instantly, of course, but like, the longer you're exposed.
basically just makes you drunk
and die
The perfect, living warcrime
Oh and also make the gas explode because funny
celest oasis
Poison gas triggers me when ppl use that lol
Cant see anything
gets two shot by web spitters
fleet wraith
anyone got the details for this week's EDD?
would be cool if they got pinned every week on this channel
wraith shard
Second stage is the most problematic
Lethal enemies salvage
First and third are rather easy
fleet wraith
ok 😄
any morkite?
got the morkite beer
pls join and help if you want 😄
I made it available on #lfg-steam
midnight spindle
I can't move. Help. I used the photo mode and it's bugged.
torpid burrow
what is the reason we have been given for why crafting materials done spawn in deep dives?
is it because people would just do deep dives over and over to get a ton of them?
wraith shard
Probably that it'd be too time consuming
Or to ensure people play regular games as well
livid pendant
As a reletivally new player that does seem to be an issue
torpid burrow
my thing is I want to do the deep dives
but it is not getting me any crafting materials
so when I am trying to grind out upgrades it just doesn't make sense to do them
foggy sentinel
Easy farmable/guaranteed mineral payout, same with beer mats
torpid burrow
if we want to get specific a single deep dive is worth around 100 crafting materials if you convert all the gold into minerals
but it is not efficient
wraith shard
hey guys, i have a problem in the game, i cant promote my character.
any one can help me?
crimson arch
have you completed the assignment for the promotion?
wraith shard
is not released even though I am at lvl 25
the option to promote cant existe in my gamr
game
crimson arch
when you reach lvl 25, you should first be able to accept an assignment that you need to complete in order to promote the character
wraith shard
this task does not appear to be accepted
crimson arch
when you've completed that, you should be able to find the "promote" button in "character selection" terminal in one of the four small rooms where you "spawn"
which asks for some credits and minerals
heavy torrent
@wraith shard post a picture in #drg-gallery
wraith shard
is there man
heavy torrent
You’re in the middle of another assignment, aren’t you?
heavy torrent
👍🏼
terse kestrel
Hello. Wanted to share my experience with doing an Deep Dive Elite with 4 players. We decided to do it, because we desperately wanted more cores. We died a lot and started to tell others what gear they should have. It was rough on the mind, but we manage to finish the first mission and cash in the blank matrix core.
I'll add that we were coordinated on Discord voice chat. We were a regular team.
odd comet
The reason they don't have crafting materials in the Deep Dives is because the dives generate the exact same layout every time
So if you found the dive had a lot of croppa, for example
You would just farm the dive for it
And then the people who actually want to do the deep dives for the cores may have trouble finding lobbies where they're actually trying to complete the deep dive
Instead of farming materials
gaunt crescent
whats everyone's thoughts on beastmaster in a deep dive scenario?
honest bronze
I think it depends more on what class ur running than what the scenario imho. I really only use beastmaster when I play engineer cuz I stick usually to one area (my turrets)
wraith shard
beastmaster i take if im scout or its solo/duos
torpid burrow
if all 4 players have beastmaster
it is a force to be reckoned with
quad steeve slashers is hilariously powerful
beast master and field medic is what I run basically all the time
celest oasis
Sticky flames wrecks slasher Steeve lol
wanton aurora
For solo deep dives, does bosco get his revives back after each stage or are they consistent too?
7
wanton aurora
I did it
dense seal
🎊
noble wharf
Damn it all. Got to stage 2 solo EDD and, for the first time ever, my game crashes.
Or at least the first I can recall.
late coral
I completed the DD first try and EDD on the second try over the weekend
celest oasis
Any bulks on edd lol
brittle fractal
its fun
with the right coop
stage 3 is bored cuz everyone knows what protocol should proceed
odd comet
I actually only had one bulk spawn on stage two, and only on my first attempt
distant steppe
bulks are not guaranteed, but are very likely, especially on stage 2
obsidian violet
yo so Im trying to do the élite deep dive im a scout and my friend is a driller better duo or with others we seem to do better duo but still cant beat it and any tips
feral atlas
Do you regularly play and beat Haz5 without positive modifiers?
obsidian violet
no
feral atlas
If no, you probably want to skip this week.
Either that, or seek out a duo who know what they're doing and are willing to try to carry on engi and a scout.
feral atlas
Unless you've done a ton of Haz5 salvage defenses
It's probably not possible to replace experience
obsidian violet
yea i think we have to then
wraith shard
It was hell
stable pelican
Tbh you just need a good platform setup on stage 2 and it went fine for my team
You could always try to cheese it with 3 in a bunker and scout kiting/watching for bulk
modern crane
I haven't been able to beat stage 2 yet :\
quiet mulch
When I did stage 2 two bulk detonators spawned on top of each other during the fuel pod uplink. Combined with a massive wave, it destroyed us
And lethal with venomspitters is disgusting
Bunkers are broken
hallow estuary
acid spitters dont get buffed by lethal
quiet mulch
Really? They hurt like hell
celest oasis
Bunkers are situationally broken
hallow estuary
haz5 does that
celest oasis
Depends how high iq your driller is
Most ppl dont know how to make them properly
Not that I advocate bunkering
quiet mulch
Our engi driller combo made a kill tunnel
Oppressors couldnt make it more than a couple meters
celest oasis
Have you ever had a bulk spawn above the bunker and one shot everyone
quiet mulch
Once
celest oasis
Ya lol
quiet mulch
But the driller salvaged it
wraith shard
The spitters are the worst part
Idk if their spawn rates got boosted or ive been particularly unlucky but I've been getting 3+ acid spitters spawning at once and it's the opposite of fun
There's no warning until 90% of your health evaporates because they're borderline silent, invisible and fire within 0.5 seconds of turning a corner
wispy gazelle
Thats why scouts should build to excel at taking down those annoying brats
They already have the equipment to light up walls and ceilings
And their primaries are quite accurate
celest oasis
When scout doesnt use flare lol
Least the scouts Ive played with on edd seem to know how to 
wispy gazelle
I sometimes forget, havent played it too much yet
celest oasis
Had a good team on first try of edd, no bulk so pretty lucky lol
Bring on this weeks
Plsnotmagmacore
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quiet wyvern
Been almost boring since I did both weekly assignment's and Deep dives all on the same day, might not have the same luck tomorrow, but we'll see
random burrow
hrrr
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verbal wagon
minigun or autocannon for this weeks EDD?
timber comet
Great googly moogly the normal Deep Dive 3 is huuuuuuuuuge
(just now got to doing it)
Haunted cave low gravity with these maaaaaaaassive caves that you can't even find the morkite in lol
Also, haunted cave solo is super lame
celest oasis
Take minigun , ac is just bad
celest oasis
Ac is okay if they all group up
But if you get a long line of bugs I really feel leadstorm has better dps and pen
Not to mention more ammo efficient
bitter garnet
AC is a fine weapon. You can do more than good in EDDs with it.
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vital peak
honest tide
what are the biomes and modifiers for this week's DDs?
bitter garnet
Why we cannot post pics on here
brittle fractal
idk
bitter garnet
I'd like to post pics of the warnings of the EDD to help others
but like this I cant lol
I'll use gallery then
austere pond
bitter garnet
well that works too
wispy gazelle
Yeah doesnt look extremely hard
The first one seems the hardest
Cus defense missions usually are oof
But no black box
No lethal, no shield disruption
brittle fractal
horizon leeches?
wispy gazelle
Camve leemch
wispy gazelle
The last one looks ez af
bitter garnet
Landed a resupply on a bulk 🙏🏻
austere pond
bitter garnet
Got more than 600 extra nitra that was not needed
austere pond
Almost below 45 min
bitter garnet
And we went slow for the first stage
wraith shard
about to do solo engy edd wish me luck xd
serene root
wa
quiet wyvern
I hate/ Love Bet-c all at once
celest oasis
You can just drill around it if you dont want to wake it
wraith shard
i finished engineer solo edd first try no betc in sight
hearty spear
Is this week 21?
wraith shard
i think so
lavish hatch
they give you the two hard missions first
then the 3rd one is just "here u go champ free win"
celest oasis
Unless its Point extraction stage 3 EDD
Free lose 
What are peoples prefered builds for each class and ocs for edd?
If you wanted to build as meta as possible
brittle fractal
gunner:no need to mention, lsls cbac bulldog
scout, m1k stock build
engi: one trick
driller: one trick
mostly, the least
limpid basalt
ah shit I just checked the EDD
brittle fractal
lead storm lead storm, carpet bomber
you know those uniform
engi only has shooty and PGL, so one trick. Driller only has flame and subata, so one trick
celest oasis
Heres my edd loadout:
Gunner: ac+neurotoxin, brt+any
Scout: gk2+overlclocked, zuhkov+cyro
Drilller: cryo+snowball, epc+any
Engie: stubby+arc, bread cutter+ electrocute
Pretty good imo
brittle fractal
oof
celest oasis
I think epc could be good for speed running
Less time spend for engie and scout mining
Not sure if I wanna give up subata in edd
Hmmm
brittle fractal
subata is always dependable
celest oasis
Is fuel stream good for edd?
Or meh lol
Or might default to lighter tanks or sticky fuel
tardy quiver
hasty grove
A question:
Just did a Kursite Infection (machine mission) and I'm offered 3 rewards. It says "Hold E" (I assume to claim the reward) but holding E yields no results.
Any ideas why that might be?
wraith shard
get close and hold E
odd comet
Stage 3 EDD easy, my ass
We got hit with a double bulk spawn and a swarm before we even got out of the spawn room
the earthquakes turned what little of the stage wasn't a deathtrap to begin with into one
and when we barely survived, and were almost home free
A bulk spawned right next to the drop pod and wiped the entire team as we were literally 5 meters away from it
And that was my second try, after a wipe on stage 3 on the first try because a swarm w/ a bulk spawned 3 seconds after we aggroed the BET-C
mint dust
distant steppe
I got a bulk during a swarm, with the team already split up. Team was competent enough, at least, to still deal with the situation.
@odd comet out of curiosity, what class do you go with for EDD?
blazing kindle
@odd comet Think I played with you earlier today. Stage 3 was rough, managed to get BET-C down but the team was split up and going down one by one with a bulk + swarm.
distant steppe
I was going to say, if you needed help for another attempt, I'd be willing to hop in.
celest oasis
Or how ammo Efficient you are xD
distant steppe
could definitely have seen us cutting two supply drops if the spawns had been just a little lighter
hey now, I was being efficient. The team, not so much.
celest oasis
4 dwarf was fun
I think hardest part is the 2nd lol
Enemies get pretty spread out but should be manageable
distant steppe
oh, the aquarq and morkite?
celest oasis
Yea remove the vents near the minehead asap
quiet wyvern
yep, and parasites
distant steppe
only difficulty I had with that one was the team not paying attention
celest oasis
Can get the gunner to shoot them out
distant steppe
Driller says he'll rush the aquarq. So the Scout and Engi instantly start mining it instead of the nitra and morkite.
celest oasis
You can make a little bunker near the minehead if you need to for big waves
We also managed to grab the betc on stage3
Its not required but we said meh might as well
distant steppe
thinking back on it, my EDD experience was pretty much a constant facepalm. Just got to live through it this week.
distant steppe
last week was easy, but that's because I found a competent team
this week the team didn't have to be as competent to survive
celest oasis
Salvage super dicey with all the things that want to two shot you not to mention rollers lol
Then PE on stage3 is always a slog
distant steppe
lol
celest oasis
Got it down eventually ye
distant steppe
that haunted PE from last week?
celest oasis
Yea
distant steppe
that was fun for me
celest oasis
It was ok, mega waves hurt a bit lol
distant steppe
got to take the horror on walkies around the level a few times
celest oasis
This week, the third mission of edd is most chill
celest oasis
I think some teams might have some issue with salvage, the uplink is under a dodgey ledge
distant steppe
this week?
celest oasis
Yea
distant steppe
just get the driller to drop it into the cave below
then preferably have the engi seal up the hole
distant steppe
very defensible
celest oasis
We didnt do that lol
distant steppe
that's why you want a good Driller on your team 😄
celest oasis
Ha rng when I make a team
distant steppe
I literally got to chill for that whole defense... but only because my team didn't know how to play alongside a Driller with maxed out sticky slow flames
They just kept dumping ammo into everything I already had dead to rights, so I just sat back and let them handle it
celest oasis
I went gunner this edd, leadstorm leadstorm does nicely
Got jumbo shells oc seems good
How do ppl mod it?
distant steppe
hah, yeah, I can see that with leadstorm
not many times you need to keep moving once you start shooting, as gunner
last week that wouldn't have gone quite as well
feral atlas
Don't think this EDD is any more difficult that your typical Haz4.
celest oasis
Went engie last week
feral atlas
Unless you fight Bet-c stage 3 at a bad time and place
celest oasis
Yea best time to do bet c is just after a swarm Id say
You shoukd have tons of nitra this week tho
distant steppe
Probably. Same with dreads.
Either way, my preference is to do BET-C as soon as viable, because it's horrible if you trip it accidentally later on.
celest oasis
We had like enough nitra at the end of this weeks edd to call in 4 supply drops in the dread cave
Tried to get the dread to stand under it no dice
But I heard it does dmg
celest oasis
Oh it doesnt any more?
distant steppe
not sure how that works after the update
celest oasis
Or it does do dmg
feral atlas
Does damage. But dread healthgates it.
distant steppe
to the dread's armor
celest oasis
Ye
distant steppe
yeah, that's what I'd expect at this point
celest oasis
Still worth doing this week for fun lol
Lots of nitra
Oh and a bulk spawned on the last stage as we were about to extract
Just popped out of nowhere right in front of the pod lol
They really should have telegraphed spawning animation :p
bitter garnet
ez
pale timber
I have no idea how to use this Looking for Group function
How do you post an actual add?
pale timber
Thank you
wraith shard
Lost connection to server in deep dive :/
thorny geyser
DD is walk in a park, EDD can be pretty damn fun.
We had bit of an oopsie at the last dread cocoon
opaque inlet
Just lost a EDD to steeve triggering BET-C as a wave started.
wraith shard
You cant keep up with steeve
celest oasis
Steeve was a boss , the dread didnt stand a chance
brisk leaf
Soloing this week's EDD as engie was way too easy.
wraith shard
reeeee
austere pond
This week's EDD was way too easy*
inner void
we had the same oopsie at the dread cocoon on stage 3
a mactera swarm came as soon as we entered the room
that EDD was pretty brutal I think we died a total of 50 times
my team wasn't terrible but the game kept stacking tons of things on top of us
we started to fight betsy, then a swarm came, then a bulk came, then an earthquake, then a massive chasm opens up and swallows the gunner etc
had a lot of moments like that resulting in revive trains, but we still managed to finish with no dwarves left behind.
I think something like 90% of our deaths were earthquake related
midnight spindle
EDD finished. Way easier than last week's.
granite lantern
vernal belfry
Try it without Bosco, see how that goes.
brittle fractal
mined shit tons of nitra but hardly use it
and got yeeted by mine head
on edge, right when it lands
btw, what is baked steeve taste like
feral atlas
heard it tastes like chicken
inner void
Haven't seen anyone get squished by a mine head during a dive yet
however one thing that keeps happening to us is that I see someone run past one of the supply pods and it will suddenly sink about a foot into the ground and crush them. Seemingly for no reason
celest oasis
There was a betc on the last stage on dd?
Thought it was on the 2nd stage
Wasnt too bad , although bet c seemed to have some pathing issues when we were fighting it lol
brittle fractal
hollow pawn
I hate dwarves that make 0 effort on deep dives.
A fucking driller isn’t even using his weapon wtf
A level 100+ is asking what’s the purpose of shooting zip lines from the mine head
Engineer is just sitting there and getting bitchslapped like a 4 year old by every moving thing on hoxxes
All 100+rank
spice burrow
Wait, you can do that?
celest oasis
Boosted greenbeards
outer pasture
Nice edd
not
hate magma
Still, first try with two people who were only lvl 40/50
dreamy oriole
this weeks regular deep dive missions?
inner void
got mine first try too, I was triple silver but my teammates were double and triple copper
died a LOT, but we still managed to finish without leaving any dwarves behind which is what counts.
teal flume
Why is stage 2 always the hardest?
wraith shard
That is where you get the bread
celest oasis
PE is always tricky on edd
wraith shard
How do you change the name of your room?
bitter garnet
On the options in ESC
crisp star
What is PE?
wraith shard
Just gold and the mission objectives
thorny geyser
@crisp star Point Extraction
hallow estuary
I had dark morkite so it was pretty chill for me
think i had problems on 2 with whatever bullshit is there
paper swallow
It's a bad spot for the pod, and the leeches make getting in there initially suck.
hallow estuary
I downed waiting for molly, otherwise i was fine
hollow summit
there's a goddamn volcano underneath this minehead and it's seriously screwing me up
holy crap that's painful
that's one revive used
hollow summit
nope, that's a failure
holy crap just put all the aquarqs I need on the other side of a hilariously long out of the way tunnel
hallow estuary
i went into the corner and dug down
dropped all 3 down the hole
got killed by a lootbug falling down it once
naive creek
Bet-c casually popping the dread while in a wave
paper swallow
Our BET-C began attacking the dread, and the fist thing that came to mind was, ”Let them fight.”
smoky cliff
boogers
paper meteor
failed edd on stage 3 
50 mins in
in the tunnel before the egg, we got sandwiched by two huge waves coming from each side
I´m overrun, turn around and see a literal wall of praetorians
and the other guys want to run in my direction at the same time
brittle fractal
out of shield?
oh, tunnel
it means you dont have enough firepower. The only option fighting in a tunnel(if have to) is gun blasting
eager monolith
this i don't understand. i warn my teammates in advance i'm bringing nukes to deal with praetorians and swarms. they confirm they know what this means, and then decide they really need to give that 1 praetorian a hug RIGHT NOW! thank god for that perk that lessens friendly fire (but sometimes i really wish i could hit them with all 500 damage right to the chest, would probably make them think before rushing into groups of bugs)
and this only happens on deepdives
WHY?
wraith shard
If it's only one praet they were probably trying to kill it for you
eager monolith
if so, why are they trying to kill it from the front? and again, we always confirm before dropping that praetorians are my job since my fat bois can 1 shot them from range so that gunner and driller don't waste ammo. also, it's always drillers i see doing it. so my question stands
WHY?
limber storm
ask them
wraith shard
depending on the gun they can do the same damage from the front, fatboy has so little ammo it's a waste using it on only one praet
eager monolith
IMO the praetorians should be left to the engie if he's good with his positioning. fat bois are both 1 shots and area denials since that rad zone kills anything that isn't a giant in a few seconds and the shottie can easily drop praetorians from the back with the right modifications.everyone else has a job they need to do. gunner is the main dps, scout picks of priority targets like wardens and breeders and spitballers, and driller deals with the little shits. so the engie should deal with the praetorians and really large swarms of grunts. if you're using your weapons right, you shouldn't run out of ammo in your grenade launcher
limber storm
not necessarly
in higher hazards fat boi isnt enough to one shot a praet
also not every engi runs it
wraith shard
if it's only one praet then you can join driller and help shotgun it, using fat boy isnt necessary in that scenario
limber storm
a scout with the right build is more efficient at taking out a praet usually
wraith shard
shotgun also does the same damage to praet face as butt
gunner can do anything with his dps, scout has higher priority targets but can still maul praets pretty good, my current driller build can kill a praet faster than any of my other classes
eager monolith
well again IMO thats what engies should do, since the other classes are usually busy dealing with other bugs
wraith shard
there's ways around stuff
eager monolith
also i don't support running dupes in ANY deep dive
wraith shard
fatboy shrinks your ammo too much for me
limber storm
engi is usually more for large swarm wipe, especially if you're playing fatboy
wraith shard
overkill on ordinary grunts
limber storm
praets should be hit by the explosion but not necessarly your main target
eager monolith
if you don't hit the praet then it does shit damage, the rad zone only taking around a third of it's health, whereas a direct hit will 2 shot it with the rad zone included. not to mention anything around it
limber storm
what im trying to say is you shouldnt use it only for the praet, for whats around too
and for other bugs too
eager monolith
i know, scroll up the discussion dude, i sya i use it to 1 shot praets AND SWARMS
wraith shard
usually as driller I'll be flaming a swarm when a praet turns up halfway through
other classes are perfectly capable of dealing with praets and swarms
if they jump into it let them handle it
save your large lad grenades for things that aren't handled yet
you only get like 6 fatboy shots even with max ammo as well
rare supply
limber storm
5 ammos, 3 by resup
wraith shard
part of coordinating with your team is also being able to know when a strategy is appliciable or if someone else can take care of it
Small!
just slapping your grenades on every swarm of praet that shows up is asking for trouble
eager monolith
i usually run 4 fat bois and i rarely run out. i use them as last resorts or pre-emtive strikes. im not an idiot who whips them out and blasts them to deal with a few swarmers. (i've seen it before)
wraith shard
when they agree you're bringing fatboi they presume you'll exercise some restraint
4 is two per resupply right? That's less than sticky grenades
eager monolith
i do, and i also expect them to know my restraint is limited. if i warn you i'm going to nuke a high priority target or targets and you don't move within 3 seconds. i will nuke you, no question
wraith shard
nobody is forcing you to nuke anything if someone's already on top of it
thats probably why they're pissed
eager monolith
they ain't pissed. I'M PISSED
wraith shard
if they're already on it then they're dealing with it
shoot a different bug
do you have difficulty just not nuking your teammates or something
eager monolith
if that nuke is the difference between killing the dread that already downed 2 dwarves or busting through it's shield AGAIN and you're in the way, i choose killing the dread every day of the week.
wraith shard
nukes are terrible against dreads
eager monolith
not from my expirience they aint. thats a third of it's health point blank with more damage thanks to the rad proc
wraith shard
with your very limited ammo pool that's barely anything
let your teammates get in close while it is distracted
dont nuke the thing and ruin a close approach for everyone
limber storm
the radiation will usually prevent your team from getting close
tho its surprisingly efficient if its 4 engis using nukes
eager monolith
2 dwarves down, with 1 low health idiot in the way. imma nuke it then revive the idiot rather than lose the mission
limber storm
then you burst down that big boi
wraith shard
okay, you're just moving the goalposts though
nuke is better than regular PGL in terms of damage, but with the movement speed of dread it'll outrun the rad zone and then it's more likely to get in the way of your team's kiting
its still a terrible desicion to nuke a dread
eager monolith
cause god knows i can't outrun that thing for long
wraith shard
shotgun is way better for consistent damage vs dread
if you're big brain you brough hypervelocity for dreads anyways
Or ^
eager monolith
here's an honest question tho, why do people run the smg vs dreads? or anything for that matter? all the other unlocks are either on par or direct upgrades. yet this thing just exists?
wraith shard
if two dwarves are down with a dread then either it's chasing you and the dude is trying to maul it best he can or it's chasing him and he's doing the best he can to run (hopefully)
A balance patch is warranted
voltaic's shock is the only thing it has going for it and even then it is lackluster
the slowdown is helpful on it
but you will deal next to no damage
Back before my computer broke a few months ago basically all the alternate weapons were significantly better than the standard weapons
now they've swapped places
eager monolith
with my current shottie setup i can 3 shot a leech from across a large cave, with the smg, even with spread reduction and recoil reduction, i'll be lucky to kill it in 1 clip
i mean lets look down the list of unlocks: thunder head: it and the lead storm are both on par with each other, classic: probably the best primary unlock in the game currently, cryo: taken a few hits recently but still good if you need cc. stubby: vomiting noises it even looks terrible. there's only so much skins can do.
wraith shard
M1000 classic is trash though
Cryo is crap unless closely coordinated with your team
The thunderhead works well in its role as being the opposite of the minigun
m1k rules what you talking about
Gk2 is way more sustainable and flexible
thunderhead isnt incredible without carpet bomber
Gk2 has higher total damage in most builds but it's got piss dps and tiny mag size
thunderhead is still lackluster but it works well if you go in knowing its to be used on swarms and not hard targets
electro m1k is flexible as hell
haven't done electro m1k yet but I hated every minute of hipster
felt like I was using a nerf gun
hipster makes it shitter imo
removes the hipfire one shots to grunts
turns it into long barrel subata
I still like the Gk2, and it has pretty acceptable damage for being a scout weapon
limber storm
i wouldnt advise running a hipster build, either hybrid or focus
wraith shard
I can't make the gk2 work for me at all, I'm waiting for bullets of mercy to see if the damage boost makes it good for me
limber storm
being able to one tap grunt heads is pretty strong
wraith shard
The higher total damage of gk2 is wasted on me because I miss more shots having to track things because lower dps
I wouldn't say track with it so much but bursts unless you're point blank
three or four taps on a grunt's face will delete him and I got 40 round mags
using some recoil mods you can get very controllable 4-5 round bursts with minimal delay
40 round mags sounds a lot better than 25
if a clump of them come you can swap to the shotgun and just blast em
I hated having to reload with it so much
yeah use some magsize mods
I could get behind that with compact ammo
2 2 3 1 3?
I dont remember off the top of my head
It looks a lot nicer than what I have attempted to use for it
damn RNG overclocks
gimme something tasty
everything I tried with gk2 just felt outclassed by spamming hipfire on the m1k
GK2 is way more forgiving of missing a few shots anyhow
lower potential damage but I dont run out of ammo unless I forget to use my secondary and then that's on me
with compact ammo you have an ammo pool of like 490 rounds
It is nice to be able to just hold the trigger
Quality of life
Gk2 is love, Gk2 is life
zipping into the sky of a cavern while holding the trigger through the zenith of the jump and then stopping yourself with your rocket powered shotgun while also splatting a grunt you happened to shoot at will never not be amazing'
tfw no boomstick OCs other than double barrel
paper swallow
Electric reload on the GK2 just turns on extra hard mode.
Wish it was like electric potential, damage builds up after reloading, with the first 25% of a magazine having damage enhancement.
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violet sail
drg or gtfo
willow tulip
drg of course
quiet wyvern
Rock and stone Forever!
willow tulip
wanton cloak
I havent been able to beat the edd lately
only because everyone whos doing it isnt even player level 50
wanton cloak
im not sure how soloing is the solution
vernal belfry
the less the players, the less enemies that spawn, the less damage they do and big enemies also die faster
clever crest
and Bosco is quite useful, mostly due to unlimited ammo.
also, his revive counter should reset between stages.
worthy bronze
I've soloed pretty much every EDD I've done, until of course my friend who's wanted to do them with me that week wanted to play. They're not that hard.
thorny geyser
i find that easiest soloclasses for edd are gunner and engie
wraith shard
scout*
brittle fractal
?
bitter garnet
Yeah Scout
Pheromones is OP and you can tell bosco to fuck off and do the objective
They'll never catch you
wraith shard
or just play grappling hook simulator till the objective is done
sharp tangle
any specific builds for scout solo edd besides pheromones?
sacred granite
Quick noob question on deep dives: so there's a note here that I can only claimed once a week. Is that like, if I try once and only pass one stage, that's all the rewards I claim that week? Or can I still claim rewards for the other stages if I complete them on subsequent attempts?
next pebble
You get a reward at the successful completion of one of each of the stages of both the regular deep dive and elite deep dive, and once you claim a reward for a stage, you will not receive a new one for completing that stage again.
magic lintel
hi. where is the progress for the game saved? is it synced after each dive? I'm asking because I just found out that DRG is a p2p game
versed willow
It should save after each dive, yeah. Path is: [DriveName]:\Steam\steamapps\common\Deep Rock Galactic\FSD\Saved\SaveGames
acoustic rain
Can someone tell me what the most necessary perks now are?
versed willow
For deep dives? I'd say Thorns, Resupplier, Second Wind or Veteran Depositor, Field Medic, Iron Will or Shield Link.
wanton cloak
shield link is next to useless compared to the other options
versed willow
Yep.
thorny geyser
Can you beat EDD with only A Big Iron on Your Hip?
versed willow
It'd be a lot of nitra but probably.
distant steppe
Hmm. I've been on the fence about Thorns; it's useful, but am I really willing to give up Deep Pockets for it?
fringe kettle
it really depends on your class
If you're sitting in one spot (lead storm OC) I'd say it's a must.
distant steppe
interesting point
willow tulip
I use it on gunner and scout, classes that can waste a lot of ammo dealing with a lot of the small enemies
wraith shard
just go back to the mule
wraith shard
Dont forget steeve
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thorny geyser
I always run deep pockets and depositor for scout
because mining is what im doing most of the team
hoary gust
Why people think that thorns is good lol
It's good for greenbeards and almost useless for haz5 veterans
wraith shard
cuz swarmers only bite ya once
best used with gunner
assuming you dont take AC
others can easily get rid of the little shits without taking damage
hoary gust
I never take minigun, ac is better in every aspect
And shield link that someone called here a trash perk in reality is one of the strongest perks now
With the removal of jump boots
I would also argue that vet.depositor is good. On salvage, kinda. On other missions definitely no, you always want to be on the move
wraith shard
I never take minigun, ac is better in every aspect
I think we found a person from another universe
brittle fractal
thorny geyser
universes are merging again
celest oasis
For jellies i hate those lol
austere pond
Eh, both AC and Minigun are good, I genuinely believe gunner has a choice of preference when picking his main weapon and his version of bulldog
And lmao just use Thorns and never give those flying rats a nanosecond of comprehension
sweet igloo
default minigun > default AC
austere pond
Sadly in those departments every weapon generally only has 1 or 2 good overclocks while the rest are either bad, situational or just outshone by the good ones
I guess I should've mentioned that when I said choice between main weapons I meant that they actually have upgrades on them and overclocks unlocked
wraith shard
carpet bomber has basically 0 downsides
austere pond
You never really needed to move with minigun(Lead Storm)
wraith shard
your single target damage if you land every single shot on target (impossible with that accuracy) is lower, that's the sole downside
austere pond
Carpet bomber is actually a green perk devs just pressed a wrong button
wraith shard
radius is like, doubled, along with splash damage
austere pond
Elephant rounds will still have 100 damage per shot even if you take all ammo
wraith shard
Elephant rounds have the spread thing but that BARELY matters
wraith shard
Yeah
That's how little it has an effect
Leadstorm downside is basically meaningless, carpet bomber downside is literally meaningless, elephant rounds downside is meaningless
austere pond
That goes for all the best overclocks too I think
It's either minimal downside/no downside/upgrades mitigate the downside
wraith shard
I think the unstable overclocks should have wackier downsides
Elephant rounds only having two shots a mag or something
tardy pier
Can somebody quickly show me the rundown of EDD / Mission / Mutators?
dreamy niche
- Mules, Dread with Cave Leeches
- PE, Morkite with Parasites
- Morkite, Dread with no mutators
@tardy pier
tardy pier
❤️ thank you
devout acorn
Man solo is a lot easier than coop, I like to try it coop throughout the week but on the last day like this I just bang through it as scout
four resupplies every time means infinite pheramones essentially
lost steppe
What I want to do is get 4 peeps all of us play gunner and blast fortune son while watching a dreadnought melt
It would be amazing
2 thunder Chad's 2 lead storms
No survivors
lost steppe
@solace do you have a bigger pic of the gunner face?
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modest knoll
i need those dives now
wraith shard
24 hours until I have 25 blank cored
wait no I got a machine event yesterday
24 blank cored
much better
tardy pier
I'm missing stage 3 of EDD :/ mates have no time. Experienced players who want to join?
EU gist
quiet wyvern
I'm curious as to what we will get this week
tardy pier
*host
quiet wyvern
let's hope we don't get a salt pits EDD, or will we?
outer dome
@tardy pier if you’re still looking for players for the EDD I can join
odd comet
I'd happily take a salt pits EDD over the clusterfuck that is magma core
distant steppe
what's wrong with the salt pits? It's a pretty nice biome.
limber storm
the hazard of salt pit is actually the baby rollies, even if they look safe at first you get knocked around a lot
feral atlas
salt pits isn't hard; it's just annoying due to the baby rollers
odd comet
I'll happily take baby q'ronars over lava geysers and the giant fuck-you chasms that always appear in the worst possible places
distant steppe
they're also only a threat if they can get to you
I've been on sufficiently safe elevated positions that basically reduce them to a lava lamp
split pike
About to do more first DD, any tips?
solid wing
dont die leaf lover
practically all the experience is from other missions
also it easier cause you do the same level so you can plan it out
communication with dwarfs veey important
beer buff works on all 3 stages
anything more to say?
abstract shell
dont worry about bosco's revives (if youre going solo) or active perks, each stage recharges them @split pike
rain jay
So can you do deep dives over and over for the rewards or is it a weekly only thing. I found the regular deep dive very easy on solo and eager to do the EDD but was abit too hard by myself
outer dome
You can get the reward from each stage of each deep dive only once per week.
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candid trench
Solo-ing edd with driller right now on xbox. Just finished first stage (after a few tries), let’s see how this goes
celest oasis
Ooh new dives today
wraith shard
Yeah 2 hrs left
candid trench
Died on second stage cause I got a bulk during a swarm. Least I got the blank
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sleek radish
If I start a deep dive before the weekly reset, and finish it after the reset, will it count for the previous week's or current week's assignment?
golden gazelle
IIRC DD/EDD blocked before reset
golden gazelle
🤔
sleek radish
welp, lemme see what happens
celest oasis
Gogo
golden gazelle
Dunno then.
celest oasis
For science
golden gazelle
But probably it would be same thing as playing standard mission before mission refresh
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austere pond
First stage is certified heck
manic hedge
10 aquarqs, black box AND shield disruption? The only thing that could make this more fun was if the map was lava land again.
bitter garnet
Stage 1 and 2 has a hooli hoarder
austere pond
wraith shard
doing a solo driller run in edd wish me luck >_>
austere pond
Duo EDD has triple hoolo hoarder
bitter garnet
bitter garnet
Three hoarders holy shit
celest oasis
Are those salvage missions?
austere pond
No
celest oasis
Oh good
austere pond
It's secondary objective salvage
bitter garnet
Black box is defending the uplink, the mini mules is just repairing the things.
austere pond
But not an actual mission, so you don't have defend stage
celest oasis
Stage 1 seems hard
bitter garnet
DD is more cancerous than EDD just by the first stage lmao
Aquarq + Eggs on Dense, I sleep
Its annoying tbh
buoyant glade
Did They fix PE on deep dives yet
Also hoarders are not randomized when I comes to deep dives right?
manic hedge
Whats the DD stages?
bitter garnet
Hoarders are not randomized
and PE is not fixed yet
but its Stage 1 so it doesnt matter
austere pond
They are randomized by the number of people
All enemies are
So duo will always have the same spawns
But trio/solo will have different ones
manic hedge
Then its not randomized though?
austere pond
Yes
bitter garnet
The spawn within the cave are set by the number of players - Whatever SPAWNS while playing is Ranodm
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/680053802694344714/unknown.png Normal Deep Dive
manic hedge
Right, so a betc on duo will always be there regardless of number of runs, but you may or may not get a bulk in the same number of runs
bitter garnet
Exactly
celest oasis
Bet c where? Dd?
manic hedge
No just in theory
celest oasis
Its not a theory
austere pond
Normal DD
As DDs go this is one of the challenging ones
Doesn't say much but it's something
bitter garnet
For greenbeards this may be the first "nope" if Im honest.
bitter garnet
Yeah but greenbeards dude
austere pond
brittle fractal
just FACE TANK
austere pond
Lethal tho
minor meteor
so.. why am I getting last weeks deep dives?
bitter garnet
Have you updated
minor meteor
Can't find any, it says up to date
Good old fashion restart of the game (and steam client) seems to have worked. Didn't get a update though.
midnight spindle
EDD done first attempt. Engie clutched the second dreadnought on stage 3 when we all went down and got us all up.
distant steppe
Mildly envious. The greenbeards I was stuck with choked hard on the first dreadnought.
The Scout was definitely carrying the team. I was Driller and was constantly low health and out of ammo because the Engineer and Gunner were no support.
celest oasis
Driller is hard to carry with imo
Mainly reason I see driller last picked for most teams
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sharp tangle
bot broken?
austere pond
Driller isn't that hard to carry people with, he might not be the old 1 dwarf army driller but he's still a really strong character
And for deep dives he's really good
In current one you'll be dealing with point extraction
So having driller just go and mine most of the aquarqs before the first wave is amazing
rugged pecan
Or w8 "Rocky Mountains"
austere pond
Or just pick driller instead of repeatedly resetting the lobby for a mediocre drink
rugged pecan
I never tried to reset the lobby personally 🤔 some ppl do that ? Oo
austere pond
Never did that, never seen it done, but you were implying that
rugged pecan
My fav beer still "Underhill"
"but you were implying that" no, never, was a joke ^^
I play full team for fun
Solo EDD for challenge
Bosco get aquarq ezly
fringe kettle
Stage 1 was a little scarce on nitra, but stages 2 and 3 more than make up for it.
dusk urchin
Whats the OC for the 2nd?
quiet wyvern
Well i was about to complete stage 1 of the EDD with a full group, but all of a sudden during the extraction, it ended. The host Rage Quit!!!, literally? wtf?
I'm very disappointed
@fringe kettle The host of my game rage quit after being downed by a bulk on the minehead, when he should've known at least the rest of us could get to the pod to complete the stage
wraith shard
week 2 edd Vietnam flashbacks
finite isle
Yooooo actually tho
distant steppe
this week can be a decent challenge based on the random enemy swarms
I've had the stages go both ways
ambient waves on stage 3 seem rough regardless
willow tulip
god week 1 and week 2 edd were insane lol
gusty pebble
Was that the one on Biozone that had a stage with 4 spitballers right outside the drop pod
finite isle
Week 2 EDD had mactera plague 2nd stage and lethal on 3rd. Oh AND it was magma core. At the time, it was the hardest mission the game had ever seen
@feral atlas
feral atlas
that definitely wasn't week 2
maybe week 4-6, but not week 2
I am almost certain that weeks 2 and 3 were sandblasted
finite isle
Yeah I think I read the wrong one hold up
finite isle
this i believe was the week 2
Elite Deep Dive (Sandblasted Corridors):
Stage 1 - Low Oxygen
Obj. 1: Mine ? Morkite
Obj. 2: Mine 10 Aquacks
Stage 2 - Shield Disruption
Obj. 1: Mine 200 Morkite
Obj. 2: Kill 1 Dreadnought
Stage 3 - Mactera Plague
Obj. 1: Mine 150 Morkite
Obj. 2: Salvage 3 Mules
feral atlas
that's 3
finite isle
thats actually the 3rd week. October 10th
ya
i cant find records of the 1st and 2nd
feral atlas
finite isle
3rd was till hard af looking back
