whats the best anti-air engi build?
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dim drift
dim drift
It's for a 4man edd
stable gate
Yea same applies
dim drift
I thought AA relied on the PGL
3,2,1,2,1 is my setup for it
I think it might be better to do
stable gate
to beat this EDD you dont need to meticulously build your engi
dim drift
1,3,1,2,1
stable gate
Its not that brutal
dim drift
I'm just a driller main, haven't done edds with any other classes
drillers finally 3star gold so I wanna level the others now though lol.
Just don't wanna be the guy that drags my team down cause I don't know how to build engi. lmao
stable gate
Yea playing different classes is fun
Nah dont worry
As long as you remember to build turret and plop down some platforms you are perfect engi
dim drift
for the turret, I'm using armor breaking. is stun better?
and I'm assuming target prioritization > defender system
stable gate
Stun is good but theres no black and white here
Just experiment
And see what you like
red marlin
I go with the gemini and defender system.
thorn prism
Hey I have a question: Who's Karl?
dim drift
A Fallen Hero
willow tulip
management's propaganda to motivate the dwarves a legend who got left behind (maybe he killed the queen?)
dim drift
NEVER question Karl's accomplishments. He laid the path we follow today, we fight in memory of Karl. Tarnishing his name is treason and management will not tolerate it. He's a damn hero!
thorny geyser
There we go, EDD done.
dim drift
grats, I felt like there are soooo many spawns in this one
on a 3 man, we had 1k kills after failing halfway through the second mission
thorny geyser
First stage was a tricky one.
dim drift
how tough was the third one? the mactera?
thorny geyser
Mactera plague stage felt in my opinion easier than previous mactera plagues.
dim drift
thats good to hear
potent reef
what's the best gunner weps for the EDD
thorny geyser
I'd probably try autocannon and revolver first.
potent reef
aight
waxen dawn
We got by fine with our gunner using minigun and revolver.
potent reef
aight
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waxen dawn
If you're just flat better by a wide margin with any weapon then just go w/ that, imo.
potent reef
what's the final EDD stage
shut sierra
mactera plague salvage op
potent reef
oh COME ON
shut sierra
just use the PGL with incendiary
thorny geyser
Stage 3 isnt that bad. Good position in defense.
bitter garnet
Mactera plague can be very hard but the map layout that we got for this EDD was really really easy. Stage 1 is the hardest part of the EDD by far.
thorny geyser
Yup. Just keep moving and take out Dreadnought fast. We got two detonators when we fought dread, but they helped us in fact.
frail zodiac
you have so much nitra by that point your team can alternate between gunner shield and phermones and be fine
or just phermones
strange tulip
with 2 scouts 2 gunners you can keep pheremones and shields up permanently
thorny geyser
nitra is not a problem
pearl lance
when exactly is the weekly reset for deep dives, and im assuming all the other weekly-restricted content?
red marlin
Thursday at some point
sleek solar
i got neither the achievement for completing a deep dive nor the one for doing it under 45 min...are those bugged?
willow tulip
My EDD didn't feel like an edd this week, went pretty smoothly although we did bunker on the last stage
sleek solar
my team died on the very last objective
we didn't bunker
anyway i'm not happy
i did a deep dive under 45 min and didn't get the achievement for it
and a friend that was playing on that same dive?
got the achievement
so i don't know what's up
unkempt breach
anyone doing edd?
shut sierra
maybe you already have it
honest bronze
Anyone solo the edd this week? Any tips?
wind nest
depends on which class you taking in
gusty ermine
I made an attempt 😂
absolutely nail the Dread first in stage 1, from there you've just got to be fast
I used a Gunner, because the ziplines can criss-cross the vertical shaft and make it easy to avoid the ghost
Bosco can do all the hard graft, just drop the aquarq onto the rig and deposit only when you're depositing nitra
learn where the dead ends are, because they are certain death
honest bronze
Sweet sweet glad to know gunner is viable
Been using driller for soloing EDD and it’s been a doozy
resource management and acquisition was ez pz, but dealing with lots of mactera always sucked
feral atlas
wrong channel
hushed plinth
Seems like having two gunners on your squad has always been the best way to run EDD because shield spam keeps you safe
thorny geyser
Nah, I think flexibility to do every job is a strength.
feral atlas
To be fair though, driller is rarely necessary.
harsh night
Just did my first deep dive and it was ezpz, how much worse is elite deep dive?
feral atlas
EDD is basically haz5
harsh night
Never tried that but haz4 was manageable
feral atlas
ehhhh
there is nuance
let's put it this way
anybody should be able to finish DD no matter how dumb the team is
in EDD, your teammates will likely have to clutch at one moment or another
who it is depends on the circumstance
wind nest
Haz5 hole digging
meager topaz
harsh night
EDD super fun, didn't manage to beat it this night but definitely doable. Wish there were more though
hollow flower
more every week
thorny geyser
@harsh night There's still time.
harsh night
Oh yeah I know about both of those. I just meant dimultaneous DDs
. Like 3 to choose from
teal agate
went in with 3 scouts and a engineer at least one of whom had never completed an EDD fully expecting to maybe beat one level, hoping for two, but surprised to finish it out especially with a salvage mission last lmao props to them
thorny geyser
well damn, that sounds like a fun run!
blissful venture
We built a sexy bunker on the last mission, I mined the entrance to hell. Was the easiest EDD experience I've ever had
wind nest
Mactera are easy to dispatch if you know how
hollow flower
Some EDDs are going to be harder and easier than others. Just the nature of RNG
shut sierra
best weapon against mactera is PGL with incendiary
woeful marten
yes, they just melt like ice cream, so lovely
thorny geyser
I dont know what kind of ice cream you eat, but can I score some?
waxen dawn
Any ice cream put in my freezer.
Pre-thawed. Sorbet might take a solid of being outside before turning into goop.
covert parcel
thorny geyser
Has anyone here done solo EDD with Scout?
I'm kinda struggling
I had no problems as driller and gunner though.
patent orchid
I did, took a while but you basically have to use the pheremone grenades to keep things away for some of the defensive bits and to make the dread and horror fight.
wraith shard
i did. collect nitra, spam pheromones
ignore metaslaves and spam the boomstick to clear waves
dusty cedar
best class for solo EDD this week?
tribal lark
anyone for a deep dive?
strange tulip
scout always best class homie
chilly flicker
how many days until the deep dive reset?
willow tulip
1 or 2?
river turret
35 hours, 4 minutes.
tribal lark
anyone for a deep dive?
tribal lark
this deep dive is hedll
i haven't completed the first one, i really reeally really need a full team
i will check back in an hr
tired pawn
ill help you @tribal lark
dark lark
@tribal lark im alive to
copper oasis
EDD sucks this week, im not a fan of these "Aquarq with Ghost, Bulk and Dreadnaught" missions
hollow flower
First stage is the hardest, it really opens up after that
slender crown
DD was EZ compared to EDD.... but EDD was more fun lol
hollow flower
I mean EDD is meant to be harder, it is elite after all :P
slender crown
nothing like being a scout with the horror targetting you.. you forget about it for 30 seconds... turn around and theres a bulk detonator, the horror and your teamate just opened the dreadnaught cocoon....
I zipped out of that death triangle so fast my beard almost got torn out of my face
hollow flower
It's perfect if the ghost bulk targets you as scout, you're the best to juke it
slender crown
factus cactus.
I lived. then turned around revived the gunner and we killed the both of the fleshy ones.. the horror wanted me giblets tho
copper oasis
I like to think im not total trash at this game but the ONLY 2 elite deep dives ive been unable to complete with my regular group are the Ghost, Bulk, Dreadnaught Aquark Missions
We are getting smacked around by the goddamn Big Boy Brigade the entire mission and the room shape isnt conducive for it.
tired pawn
the strat is to have the person that is being targetted to isolate themselves from the group whilst giving themselves achievable things to do whilst keeping the ghost bulk away @copper oasis
that tends to help
inner void
argh
I want a minigun overclock so bad
I've got 4 for the burt, 1 for the revolver and 2 for the autocannon, but still no minigun mods
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tardy pier
Is it possible the game gives you loot for the class you're doing the DD with with higher priority?
Because I've got so many scout stuffz, and been playing with him mostly
serene vessel
I think I've used only gunner in DDs and have only gotten a handful of BRT overclocks which makes me a sad
harsh steppe
It does not
serene vessel
RNGesus has not been kind to me when it comes to the overclocks I want 😦
harsh steppe
k
you will get it this time
I promise
Okay, I can't promise that, but I'm rooting for you.
dense obsidian
Freeman just wants even more carve radius for a C4 OC.
Local man yearns for prenerf super cooling for m1000.
wraith shard
people keep trying to tell me c4 mining only gives you 10% of the resources but I think that’s just gross overestimation and the latest in misheard rumors
plus im not going to stand there bashing gold for an hour
dense obsidian
It used to be true, it was fixed in recent updates
Same with mining the base of a mineral and breaking the rest off
I THINK shooting off ore is inefficient
Ie with minigun
But mining the connections to ore/c4 is basically 100 efficient from my experiences
dense obsidian
The real satchelkino is breaking off those HUGE pillars in PE, cave coral caves.
"Worthless but fun to destroy"
blissful matrix
I don't think it's 100% efficiency. If you hit like specs of minerals, and you're full, it will just say "inventory full" and it'll disappear. There's a minimum threshold.
fathom horizon
Wait is deep dive resetting in 21 hours?
next pebble
About 20 now but yes
inner void
yep, the weekly reset is almost up
lavish spindle
The promised time approaches
fringe kettle
randomly created every thursday
wraith shard
ppl prob got a week to build strats then ig?
feral atlas
I would not view it that way.
If you're planning on trying to complete it in a pub from Monday to the refresh.
fringe kettle
It's not really needed unless you're speed running.
feral atlas
You're going to have a bad time.
The good players tend to finish it on the 1st try, blind.
fringe kettle
Most higher skilled players complete them the first couple of days.
feral atlas
And completions are probably already done by the end of Sunday for that player popl.
Monday to the refresh, it's hell.
wraith shard
ah aight, least my first try was a win
feral atlas
Idiots everywhere.
wraith shard
cuz the scout got to the pod
fringe kettle
when in doubt, solo it
graceful radish
Hot dang. . .I might as well stop playing now. Ran the EDD with a friend and two mid-level randos. Fought our way to the final stage, got the drop pod refueled, were out of nitra, and everyone went down
I kited like a bat, but got iron-willed just as the pod opened
Grappled in on my last three seconds of Iron Will
hybrid wing
The clutch!
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frail horizon
uh oh
hushed plinth
Glad I finally finished it last night. That first stage was a major doosey. Managed to find a great team of high level randos. We saved up enough nitra to spam resups for the win at the end of stage three. I spammed pheremones like a motherfucker.
Ran it again earlier today for fun. Think I found the second cheater I've ever met during it. He was some crazy high level, like 3346 or something. Seemed to never run out of ammo on his EPC even though he was spamming the charged shot.
Please, devs. Please no haunted on the next reroll
Pls. Pls no haunted >_>
hybrid wing
Sad that people cheat on this game...
Really sad.
I actually encountered an aim botter one time
He was flicking around instantly and immidiately turned and shot his weapon when a Glyphid turned the corner to get him
violet glacier
wow, who the hell cheats in a pve game lol
strange helm
leaf lovers
hushed plinth
The first cheater I met was an engi with unlimited ammo in a point extraction. He made giant staircases with his platform gun all across the map.
chilly flicker
Anyone still need to do the EDD
strange tulip
EDD just takes one gunner one scout if you want to try 2 manning it fyi
gunner does the dread objectives, scout does the other stuff
inner void
yep, in theory 2-manning is the easiest bracket because the game doesn't get much harder compared to solo. That's deliberate because the second player replaces Bosco, but players have much higher DPS than Bosco does and they can effectively target dread weakpoints
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hushed plinth
Ohhhh shit boys. What's it gonna be?
My work week is over in an hour. Gonna celebrate with a bottle of the cheap stuff and these new fucking deep dives. A drunk dwarf is a happy dwarf.
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umbral panther
LETS ROLL
hushed plinth
FUUUUUCK I WISH I WERE HOME RIGHT NOW
TIME NEEDS TO MOVE FASTER FOR THE NEXT 50 MINUTES
vital peak
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fierce jacinth
perfect
but engy kept dying n would strafe off like a lone wolf n ignore us talking to him
hollow flower
What’s the warnings?
fierce jacinth
they're pretty tame tbh
crit hit on the first one n i forgot the warning, second is exploder infestation n third is regen
warm knoll
first stage was mactera plague + critical weakness
zenith trail
Oh boi time to one shot those bitches with subata
half stump
hollow flower
Ok so mactera, exploding bugs and regen
latent hamlet
azure terrace
There is a bit of scaling between 1 and 2 players, but not much, according to the wiki
dreamy nacelle
same, just finished with ~600 nitra entering stage 3
without the mules being the primary obj. there wasn't much "oh crap we better prep". Also... only 4 eggs with 3 clustered so close together...
eternal whale
easiest edd so far
fierce jacinth
its a shame that you cant just upload images, you have to upload it to a site to throw it in here
but yea normal deep dive is parasites n nothing second n third is lethal enemies
willow salmon
bleak sierra
yeah elite was easier, but man, those earthquakes made moving around difficult; without a good engineer we'd be stuck and swarmed
woeful marten
I am glad I can relax and enjoy deep dives without tryharding 🙂
fierce jacinth
we managed to do the elite even tho our engy was afk most of the time n garbage teammate over all
wraith shard
shame you dont get exp for minerals mined and enemies defeated on deep dive
or a survival bonus for each stage
latent trail
All three deepdive stages complete
0/3 completed...
Got only the first reward
Nothing on 2 and 3
buggerd
jaunty river
Given that this is the internet, I'm going to ask if that's you being an elitist MLG snob, or if you're genuinely comparing this EDD to the previous ones and calling it easy
jaunty river
Having looked up at the hazards for this one... yeah, I can see it. Mactera swarm with Crit Weakness? Might as well be clay pidgeons
feral atlas
Crit weakness is cheat mode. Stage 2 are the two easiest objectives you can get, and stage 3 is a 1/1 egghunt
Stage 1 you won't even need to resupply
Stuff dies if you breathe on it.
jaunty river
I'm not gonna complain, that's just how it is
Random generation, baby
Sometimes it's easy, sometimes it's the most ballbustingest unfair dogshit you've ever seen.
I mean, if people here are just gonna scream "git gud" at me when I complain about Point Extraction scaling issues, I feel like it's only fair I can tell you to just enjoy the casual killing stroll
eternal whale
a little preachy there
jaunty river
Too bad 🙂
hybrid wing
Question
Does anyone know if the "Kill 2 Dreadnoughts within 30 seconds in a Hazard 3 or higher" achievement is obtainable in the Deep Dive?
I already got it so I can't test it
But I have friends who want it and maybe this might be the best time to get it assuming it is possible
fringe kettle
I don’t see why it wouldn’t be.
hybrid wing
Me neither
But you never know
Maybe it only works on regular missions
For some reason
But that's why I am asking if someone tried testing it
eternal whale
it's pretty easy to just lower the hz level, pop eggs, lure them together, and kill them
wouldn't rely on this week's edd for that but then again, if you can get it at the same time, might as well
brave dune
another week without lead storm, carpet bomber, fat boy / clean sweep, any CRSPR OC 
but yeah I'm about to finish the OC collection on bulldog and BRT thank you very much rng jesus
not like I use the BRT at all as I already have the elephant rounds on the bulldog
buoyant glade
I really feel there should be a harder way to get specific OCs
frail zodiac
i love how 3 of the pgl upgrades i have pretty much leads to same build
amber lance
This weeks EDD is surprisingly really easy
wind nest
hmmm to solo or RNG team it
fathom horizon
I think grinding edd would be a good source of xp
thick ridge
Wuts this week’s edd
Elimination, + Salvage, Mactera + Critical Weakness
Mining + Salvage, Exploder Infestation
Egg + Mining, Regen Bugs
Hmm
wraith shard
LF1M Deep Dive, preferably gunner or scout , Pod 10
amber lance
@wind nest you could RNG team with a bunch of noobs and be fine tbh
stiff harness
Always assumed Critical weakness didn't affect dreads
1 Elephant rounds shot with armour broken = ded
ashen sigil
Easiest deepdive yet
wraith shard
Damn that's my first deep dive and swarms won't stop coming. I did the first one solo tho
thorny geyser
Well the bugs start coming
And they don't stop coming
Fed as a scout and I hit the ground running
Didn't make sense
Not to live for fun
Your engie gets smart but your head gets dumb
So much to do
So much to see
wind nest
well that was an easy EDD with randos lol
zenith trail
any1 having a hard time finding morkite on the last stage of the deep dive?
we need 9 more and the map is cleared
steady tangle
When the deepdive times out and you start the new weekly without completing the first one, you complete it after the time out and you can carry over the reward to the next weeks cave...bug ?
tacit patio
Anyone else miss the elite deep dive struggle? I feel like they're getting easier and easier over the weeks
full saddle
just rng i think
tacit patio
wind nest
yeah its all random
when did the bulk turn up for you lot on Mission 1? for me it was the 3 swarm wave, by then we had already done both primary and secondary objectives
wind nest
Easy with randoms
knotty rampart
is it on magma core?
wind nest
plenty of Nitra - and yes
knotty rampart
oooh boy. my faaavvorrrite environment
so any pointers?
critical weakness is pretty great
wind nest
Stick together and you'll survive - Macteras always an issue but a good team should be able to get rid of them
knotty rampart
im in for a good deep dive. got a vet and a silver 3
wind nest
there is an exploder infestation on Mission 2 but its not too bad
there is a bulk on mission 1 - though it appeared on the 3rd swarm wave, by then we done all the objectives and just stripping the cave for nitra/gold
it might appear sooner - though tends to be rng
tbh - just go into it, felt like all 3 missions were Haz4
knotty rampart
stage one was the smoothest it has ever been for me
white mauve
somebody said the edd was easy, proceeds to blow up within 5 mins of the second stage
hmmmm
red marlin
It's one of the easier ones they've released
amber lance
it's the easiest by far
scarlet anchor
I'm just glad there's weakness on the macteras, should help a lot
lavish spindle
i wouldnt say easiest but its in the lower half
amber lance
it was super hard for me in the first room
but once i got proper setup(as engi) it was easy
wraith shard
when do deep dives reset?
feral atlas
exploder infestation stage 2 should only down people who are deaf, or get themselves stuck in holes they're digging
we need a sticky for the reset question
wraith shard
lol
lapis ermine
oof
Dreadnought and mactera, but with critical weakness? That seems easy... for EDD anyways
hushed plinth
Oh fuck yes. I got Carpet Bomber, boys!
steady magnet
Carpet Bomber is a sick upgrade
red marlin
Carpet Bomber is lit, but you basically tickle Praetorians to death.
However, that's not a bad...thing.
you can wield the bulldog like a pro and just kill 'em that way.
white mauve
Carpet is what makes the gunner a fun as hell class to do pubs with. Especially on exploding guts you feel like a badass.
Wish more oc's were as cool as it.
red marlin
Carpet Bomber is an overclock for the autocannon
hollow iris
How's the EDD this week?
full saddle
pretty easy
hollow iris
Too easy or just sort of like, just right?
steady magnet
one of the easier ones
the only thing is that one of the stages is a detonator infestation
pretty tame otherwise
wind nest
EDD smells like bacon
hollow iris
Exploder infestation,ew.And TBH I prefer a bit too easy to too hard
white mauve
Last part was the roughest but I did it with really new players so made it even more challenging.
red marlin
EDD is pretty easy this week
inner void
aye, critical weakness is hilarious
I'm pretty sure it multiplies off of any existing weakpoint bonuses you have, my stubby was killing macteras in 3 shots
thorny geyser
Easiest EDD so far, in my opinion.
shut sierra
It's x5 damage
on weakspots
so with hollow point, damage, and elephant rounds
you're doing upwards of 1000+ per shot
b
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thorny geyser
M1k wishes it was half as awesome.
thorny geyser
Yeah.
red marlin
Goo bombers took less than 1 clip to dispatch
thorny geyser
yeah its more, but its not a revolver
shut sierra
(not including any damage upgrades, but max focus)
thorny geyser
I wish you could fan the hammer with bulldog
thorny geyser
I used it
shut sierra
or feather trigger
thorny geyser
Its really fun to drop 5 mactera with 5 bullets extremely fast
shut sierra
I should try out magic bullets sometime
with neurotoxin and blowthrough
see how many enemies I can hit with one hsot
shot'
thorny geyser
shut sierra
also
I have homebrew powder for all the weapons that get it now
whee
good on everything but the revolver
thorny geyser
I only got it for bulldog and subata
shut sierra
great on subata
thorny geyser
It's really nice for subata
shut sierra
ye
buoyant stream
I just want carpet bomber
thorny geyser
very spunky little gun with lots of ammo
shut sierra
I'd try out neurotoxin payload
thorny geyser
I got face melter from EDD, didnt try it yet
shut sierra
It deals a really surprising amount of DoT
holy shit
that one deals lots of damage
buoyant stream
The engineer main I play with is trying to get fatboy, I'm scared.
thorny geyser
Gotta try that one out tomorrow
shut sierra
But yeah, consider this @thorny geyser
the flamethrower damage upgrade is a multiplier
so 12 becomes 18
(excluding the RoF bonus damage)
which is even more
I'd def take the 'explode on death' upgrade
and both the ammo ones
and the clip size
and obs, damge
thorny geyser
its more like plasma torch than flamethrower
thick ridge
looking for (E)DD group
shut sierra
tardy wyvern
any one wanna do an edd?
woeful marten
@tardy wyvern see 06:37 🙂
tardy wyvern
doing an edd already
tender axle
The bulldog has homebrew powder?
Wtf?
Doesn't that ruin like all it's break points? Lol
feral atlas
Basically, yes.
hushed plinth
Carpet Bomber is my new favorite overclock. I love obliterating groups. Move over, drillers >_>
Damn cores still won't give me Elephant Round though. Hnnnnnng!
lapis ermine
Lead Storm is pretty great on the gunner
Just go for the faster spinup and keep jumping and you can still move while shooting
hushed plinth
Don't have bulletstorm yet. Maybe next week
And I remember Glacial Strata being extremely annoying for one DD, but, that was because one mission was a haunted Point Extraction. Trying to kite that stupid invulnerable bulk is even more annoying when there;s thicc snow slowing you down.
Magma Core also sucks because the ground hurts you.
tulip idol
the worst EDD on my memory was in sand caverns
hushed plinth
those fucking sand sharks dude.
Swooping through the god damn mine head and carrying you off a mile even though the mine head is made out of metal
and grabbing you out of the gunner's shield
dumbest shit.
azure terrace
Magma core PE, enjoy having ouchie ground all around the mine head
Bonus points for getting a random chasm or two next to it as well
blissful matrix
What does the Thin Containment Field mod for the EPC do?
frail zodiac
it explodes when it comes to in contact with anything
blissful matrix
doesn't it do that already?
frail zodiac
yeah, it decreases the heat generated so if you let it go immediately after epc doesnt overheat
and a bigger aoe explosion i think if you dont shoot it too far
actually not sure about the latter
nvm, if you shoot it it explodes and makes a big crater
good for mining stuff actually
you can follow up with an axe if you hold it for long and overheat the EPC
frail zodiac
breddy ez
iron totem
ez
stable gate
I generally dont mind a EDD where you have to try a couple times to get familiar with the maps and find good defensive spots
Last EDDs have all been first try
bitter garnet
Yes, the hardest EDD we ever had was in Sandblasted corridors due to Elimination Shield disruption and Mactera Plague Salvage. Second hardest was in Magma Core due to Lethal Salvage.
Nayakas can just ruin your day really hard.
wraith shard
is it just me or is one of the levels the same as last week's?
woeful marten
I think it is just you, which one?
hollow flower
I dunno the lethal magma core was probably the hardest for most :P
feral atlas
To be fair, I finished that one first try.
Only one I've failed the first attempted was the sandblasted one with shield disrupt stage 2. And that's because the engi was using a nuke.
thick ridge
fucking hell
I came into the EDD with people telling me it wasn't that bad
walled into the 3rd stage, 2 spitballers, 2 bulks in 1 room
and a bunch of mactera
feral atlas
was this on immediate entry?
feral atlas
your own fault then
I remember the spitballers
you clear them from the entrance
shouldn't be a problem
you should have 500+ nitra entering the 3rd stage
feral atlas
team bad then
thick ridge
🤷
feral atlas
thick ridge
exploders in cramped corridors
feral atlas
it's only a hindsight issue if the players have never done exploder infestation before
thick ridge
we haven't
thick ridge
or at least, no more then a few times
feral atlas
you actually haven't done that mutator before?
thick ridge
once
we didn't make it out of the first room
so we never went back to attempt it again lmao
that was basically our 2nd ever time doing exploder infestation
I'm pretty happy we cleared it
considering we basically threw ourself off the deep end
my group goes out of its way to wait out even assignment missions if they're shield disruption or exploder infestation
full saddle
hey you'll get used to all that stuff if you just play em more
shield disruption really isnt that bad
just play a bit more careful, you know?
dusty finch
exploder infestation isn't bad at all
are you guys drowning out your game sounds or something
full saddle
yeah, exploders are pretty chill most of the time, just dont get stuck in pits lol
thick ridge
game volume automatically lowers when someone's talking if that counts
feral atlas
I mean, this is kinda your own doing.
By avoiding any experience with the mutators, then throwing yourself into a raid where it's highly likely said mutators would appear.
Then again, it's also the dev's fault for tempting you to do so.
wind nest
@thick ridge blimeh on Mission 3 only got one detonator - though we kinda sped through it - rng all the way
blissful matrix
Unless the exploders glitch out and follow you while in their exploding animation
so they're inescapable unless you're scout
bitter garnet
Sliding exploders
Try 2 manning it @thick ridge It's really easy, only one breeder per stage, like one or two leeches tops, one or two spitballers, dreadnaught on stage 1 can get two shotted, there's a huuli hoarder on stage 1...
It's really easy this EDD to 2man it. Go engi + gunner and Gg.
fathom horizon
is the dd harder than the edd this week
bitter garnet
If you somehow die, it'll only be on stage 2 of EDD due to exploder infestation and certain combinations that may slow you down. That's about t
frail zodiac
its pretty hard for EDD to be easier than DD tbh
but this EDD is as easy as it gets i guess
fathom horizon
you mean the other way around?
fringe kettle
If I can beat the EDD while on pain killers, it's a walk in the park.
one of the easiest yet
lavish spindle
The exploder mutator screwed me over because I was engineer and an exploder wave spawned at the same time as an earthquake and basically the game just told me to die.
But otherwise yeah the EDD was no problem
coral tulip
falls in magma crack
sees exploder swarm come over both edges
"Guess I'll die now"
rough vessel
seems like we got two DDs this week.
red marlin
hmmm?
gaunt mason
knotty rampart
can i have an engi for edd plz
misty sleet
how is the EDD this week?
misty sleet
nice lol
followup question: who wants to carry me through it? taking applications now
fringe kettle
If you can complete a regular DD then you can do this weeks EDD.
heavy lichen
wraith shard
I'm currently rather drunk irl, and my team beat it in one go, and I never went down once, not even to Iron Will, so the EDD was a joke this week.
inner void
This week's EDD is a snoozefest compared to the last two weeks.
Critical weakness on the first level is hilarious because even my smg could kill macteras in 3 bullets.
hollow flower
Last magma core EDD has people ripping their hair out
fleet charm
damn, with critical weakness, the gunner's pistol with elephant gun overclock can two shot dreadnaughts
unique spoke
Can someone tell me what the objectives for the edd are and the mutators for each stage?
honest snow
Uuh... so..are elite deep dives soloable?
I mean, they technically are but I didn't manage to
which is cool since I don't want my end game stuff to be too easy, especially considering I don't have any overclocks n stuff
prime mango
PS don't play with Stevos[RU]. he died 16 times in 10 minutes and quit when I called him out on being maxed rank cheating.
During EDD
inner void
Yeah I've met a few triple golds/silvers like that.
outer pasture
Easiest EDD was weeks ago
but this one looks fairly doable as well
sadly, we wiped because it was 2 am and we were drunk 😄
the cave is a bit annoying though
honest snow
fire caves are UUUGH
inner void
magma caves are definitely the hardest biome
earthquake stagger, fire geysers, hot terrain etc.
With exploders added on it might as well be a noshield map because the ground will burn you too often to let the shields recharge
keen crescent
"I heard that this week's EDD is easy" you said "I'm going back to get a resupply brb" you said
My deep dive started out with that first quote from one of my teammates. We get to stage 2 after almost failing stage 1 in which our Gunner got dc. Exploders by the dozens with just seconds in-between waves. We're halfway down the cave when the driller decided to backtrack to a resupply pod. Engi kept moving on and I tried to wait for the driller in case something happened to him. The driller went the wrong way past the resupply and a large wave of bugs spawned on him. I as the scout foresaw this and went to pick up his ass while avoiding exploders and shit. Meanwhile the majority of the wave moves down the cave to the engineer and he goes down. I save the driller with the help of phermones, help him clear the immediate area of hostilities, and then I go to save the enginner, who thankfully took most of the wave out before going down.
We get to the bottom of the cave where the eggs are and my team goes down several times while getting the eggs. Thankfully we had a generous amount of nitra, i dont think we would of pulled through without the Olympic swimming pool of phermones i chucked at the swarms. At one clutch point I go down after reviving the enginner while the driller is down. I was out of phermones but there was a resupply next to me, but I would of not been able to revive the enginner. The enginner runs around avoiding mactera and acid spit with a swarm on his ass, and he gets back to me and revives by the time my iron will refreshes. I use that iron will to resupply and spray the bugs. I revive the engi and drill and we clear the rest of that wave.
worthy bronze
@honest snow Yeah EDD's are soloable
keen crescent
When we finished the objective a swarm was announced, but someone called for the drop pod. Meaning we had to get through the escape waves and the swarm waves. At that moment a large number of exploders came in, and they kept coming steadily. The driller goes down and is unsaveable because of how far back he was, and the enginner got a little further, but I had to leave him too. I get lost in the cave in my panic to get out and because I didn't have time to check the scanner. I get hit by an acid spitter and that put my health so low I couldn't see the health bar. In my panic and rage I toss my last phermones and it hits some bugs, letting me get past the ranged bugs. Finally after that I get to the drop pod and fling myself into it with another wave of Exploders chasing me.
tl;dr: Gunner gets dc, driller's backtracking almost costed the game, and I made it out within an inch of my life
Edit: mistook stage 2 as stage 3
tough vapor
Sooo I am pretty sure this has been asked before but how long is a game?
Does it depend on the map or how fast you mine or whats the deal? 🙂
Been looking at getting the game and I am about to take the dive any minute now, but yeah is it a casual game or do you have to play everyday (thinking of if there is any lvl'ing or unlocks etc)
ember creek
I'd say,if you rush a normal mission, you could do under a 10 minute run. Otherwise, if you're talking about DD, or DDE, you have #deep-dive-speedrunning where you see that the fastest people posting are respectively around 30 mins for DD(E)s.
Depends if you want to rush or discover maps, or if you need certain minerals and/or need to do secondary objectives.
This game saves your progress. So playing it everyday is for the moment not a requirement (there's no daily bonus, but they are weekly deep dives/missions)
tough vapor
@ember creek So you can play for fun and have a blast 🙂
Looks like a game for me kinda tired of L4D and wanted something new so thought why not give this a go now
ember creek
You can play for fun and have a 1h run for a simple mission if that's what you're looking for 😂
tough vapor
Well no I am looking to give this game a good go 😛
Going for the motherload edition so yeah
Purchase confirmed
Cant wait 😄
queen orchid
there's a few things to unlock, but it's very casual play
you can take 1 hour or 10mn to finish a mission depending of your playstyle
weekly quests and deep dives are here to push you to play at least 2h weekly to get every rewards, but that's all 🙂
and even if you don't do them, you won't be at a disadvantage.
tough vapor
Awesome thx.... Wish me luck I am going in 😄
queen orchid
well, the community is very helpful with greenbeards
i hope you will match with kind brothas that will help you in your first missions
you might want to try haz 2 or 3 depending of how good you are in fps game
haz 4 will need some augmentations first
tough vapor
Well I am a old Doom player and quake and l4d so
lofty pollen
what hazard level would you compare the edd to
thorny geyser
4-5.5
wraith shard
this week it's pretty easy though
thorny geyser
yeah
maybe 4.5 max
only way to get wiped is getting stuck in second stage
everything else is relatively easy
tough vapor
Well I must admit this game is fun as hell
I am a green beard so yeah 😛
But I think I got the hang of it
tough vapor
@olive kelp I gotta hand it to you guys you sure hit the spot
The game is absolutly amazing
exotic oxide
Just FYI this channel is meant to be for deep dives (which you'll be able to do once you promote a class)
Check out #drg-chat for general discussion
wide dove
Is it just me or were last week's and this week's EDD easy?
Not sure if it's that or because I started playing them on scout, ensuring my team can survive
inner void
last week had a really hard first level
it was sort of like jumping puzzle where you have to do some steps in order, get out of the drop pod, kill the breeder, kill the dreadnought
Once you get that done it becomes a regular PE mission again, but if you FAIL to do those things quickly enough you will become overwhelmed because the naedocytes keep coming and PE missions have constant spawns that ramp up over time
so if you dick around mining gold and nitra at the start or try to do the dreadnought last after getting all of the aquarqs you're gonna die
The rest of the EDD was a cakewalk in comparison "just" macteras on hazard 5 isn't much of a threat for experienced parties
vital pewter
hello...sorry if im a little late to the party but I finally got my gunner promoted
And I did try a deep dive....died....but still learning
harsh steppe
vital pewter
Hey Jacob. Love the game mate. Really gives a meaning to teamwork in it!
harsh steppe
Glad to hear you like it! Stick to it, and the Deep Dives will feel easier.
vital pewter
Practice makes perfect. AND MAY YOU BREADS STAY THICK! 😂
tough vapor
Hmmm so how do you know when there is a big chunk of material near you?
Is it when there are smaller pieces around the area and you just have to dig to find it?
flint fable
Hey, I'm trying to get through an elite deep dive, and am having terrible luck playing with randos. Played for 3 hours last night, and never got through it all. It's tough because there isn't that direct line of communication. What sucks is that the harder this game gets, the more I like it... BUT I feel like a team that is communicating has a MUCH better chance of getting through an EDD. Any way to start or join a group of 4 miners here for an elite deep dive so I can experience it with a team that can speak to each other?
frail zodiac
#lfg-steam fam
vital pewter
Yes! I did it. FINNALY completed a deep dive....now for elit DD....FFFFFUUUU-
rotund raptor
Where does it explain how you can announce a hosted game on discord?
Nvm, it was all about "display currently running game"
finite bay
@rotund raptor you go into "looking-for-group"
and there you select the arrow in the left side of chat
not arrow, sry, plus
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wispy mantle
Why did they decide to put static map layout for Deep Dives instead of procedural like the normal missions?
thick ridge
so #deep-dive-speedrunning would be a thing
also to let people repeatedly reattempt the same layout and improve
otherwise people would repeatedly spam it until they got a good layout
hollow geyser
It's procedural, it's just that it's one map that you can try over and over for one week and then it changes.
terse river
Wouldn’t it be cool if deep dives reset every half a week?
next pebble
No
terse river
Why though?
dark lark
Becuase it would be fr cooler if they reset every day
hollow flower
Daily Deep Dives
thick steeple
Idk about daily, but each Dive lasting half a week could be great
woeful marten
because I barely have time to finish them weekly
errant verge
I would just love several at once. Like three DD's available to farm overclocks. Then again, they probably want to slow down progression a bit.
ember creek
I guess if they do it daily, people would just farm overclocks in no time. The game would be finished in a 2-weeks time, leaving no time for development, while overwhelming non-elitist players. :/
woeful marten
I do other things then DRG, I know, I am sorry, so daily would be no go, but old DDs could became available for ppl who missed them
red marlin
If deep dives were generated daily, the only people who would miss out are those who have a fear of missing out. That, and veterans can't get all the mods they want as fast (which I think is a dick move, but many MMOs do the same).
As it stands, with upwards of 60 total OCs per class (240+ total) and you can realistically earn 7 OCs a week, 6 from DDs/core hunt, 1 more from forge mastery. That's 34 weeks to earn all the OCs, which is over 6 months. I do not see how changing them to be daily would meaningfully hurt the game except for the developers.
You don't have to play every day, as even I don't. However, I still insist that those who would have the perceived need to play every day if they were daily instead have fear of missing out.
bitter garnet
I seriously hope noone is thinking about making ANYTHING daily in this game
Monthly and Weekly is the best we can have.
Daily will do nothing but hurt the game
red marlin
Howso?
bitter garnet
Dailies will burn the players, a lot.
It will become more of a "I'm forced to do this" instead of "I feel like enjoying my time"
There will be less lobbies for normal gameplay and instead it will be for the dailies
Elitism will be bigger since people don't want to lose time, they will want dailies fast, kicking anyone at the bare minimum.
Taking a break for a day, will make you think you "lost" something and that feeling will be following you.
You will only be free when you uninstall.
Yes, dailies will hurt the game.
woeful marten
yes that is exactly how I feel in games that do this, it feels forced, weekly is just okay
red marlin
I think that's just fear of missing out.
woeful marten
of course if I would only play DRG and nothing else and sit at the PC all day, then daily would be awesome
call it what you want, it puts me off big time
red marlin
That's fine, I just think that it taking 6 months for any 1 player to get all the OCs is unreasonable
And that's if a player doesn't get bored
bitter garnet
next update will increase the amount of OCs that we get
woeful marten
at least it is varried, if it wasn't then most gunners would run carpet bomber etc.
austere pond
It will become more of a "I'm forced to do this" instead of "I feel like enjoying my time"
In my experience, weeklies can already produce this to some extent
bitter garnet
But you have a lot of room with weeklies, there's no drowning
austere pond
That's true but I still feel burnt out after doing them
It's like after they are done I sometimes don't have much interest in actually playing the game until it all resets
woeful marten
exactly, I feel the same, but I guess it has to be weeklies to please others who want dailies
most of the games set these kind of objectives so if you enjoy other games and do reallife(tm) activities/family/etc. then you barely manage to complete it
harsh steppe
From a community perspective, the weekly seeds also works as a great base for weekly discussion and feedback.
woeful marten
yes
I would prefer bi-weekly but I understand this reasoning, would love to see actual numbers of current players and DD attempts player numbers and percentage of success
dense obsidian
I feel DDs need some other incentive to do them. Maybe increase the base reward, and have something like an extra bonus if you do it x% faster than the average.
Or have a separate randomly generated DD mission type people can play.
dark lark
DW I bet you can solo it
waxen dawn
How is this week for difficulty?
brave dune
ez
waxen dawn
I only bothered attempting to solo an EDD once and that was... week 2 or 3? The sand caverns one.
dark lark
It’s fairly chill but then everything is chill for me as an elite gamer
Jokes aside it is fairy tame
waxen dawn
With the awkwardly-placed dread in the morkite mission. I managed as engi. Was not fun.
full saddle
stage 1 is simple, stage 2 is going to be a long stage if it's your first time i think, so expect probably 2 swarms, and stage 3 just take slow
you'll have an abundance of nitra due to all the mules
waxen dawn
Awesome. What's it like in the way of dreads?
Should I pack shotty rather than stubby?
waxen dawn
Oh OK nice.
full saddle
stage 2, you won't have a lot of room to kite bugs around, as well as there being exploder infestation. if you fail any stage i imagine it'll be that one
but it's definitely doable
thorny geyser
EDD this week is really easy
you can only really fail if you get unlucky grabs or get stuck in geometry
burnt oasis
My first attempt sailed through all the stages and then, on that room with all the pillars with 3 eggs, we all just
Died
It fell apart too quick to salvage
So my advice is to not be shy about those resupplies, especially when on 3
harsh axle
abstract shell
@harsh axle try duos
the edd with the haunted cave at the start was really easy for me doing it with only 2
never finished with 4
rotund ivy
Duo is easiest, solo is the least variable
tribal lark
haven't gotten that one yet
I need to master DD solo on scout
Elite dives scare me.
worldly fern
this week elite DD wont scare you much
clever crest
somehow yes, even despite magma core, it's alright.
thick steeple
This has been my first DDs since a long hiatus, is this baby tier?
Oh god
Cause the EDD stage 2 was downright evil
dense seal
Is there a benefit to doing an elite deep drive versus an normal one?
thick steeple
Other than a bigger reward at the end, AFAIK no
They both have the same reward pool
dense seal
Gotcha, thanks
storm bison
Yeah it's the idea of farming more stuff
appart from that you are not gated from any content
crisp escarp
Man this week's elite honestly felt easier than the basic one
Which is fine because last week was hell imo
verbal violet
I remember talking to people about magma core saying it was initially scary cause it’s magma core
But in the end it was easier than the majority of what we had before
crisp escarp
Yeah
Hell, the dreads with the weakness modifier
Were easier than most regular dread hunts
willow tulip
3rd stage of the edd was pretty rough, but you can spam resupplies
crisp escarp
Yeah nitra was rich
It was really only rough in that one big room though
Which had like four eggs in it
wraith shard
I main engie and I received nothing related to him
thorny geyser
If you displease RNGsus, it's your own fault. Protip: self-flagellation.
crisp escarp
See: my usual teammate who mains scout
Has not gotten a single scout overclock
See also me who does not main scout: gets all the OCs that should go to him
thorny geyser
Only thing im a little bummed about is zero OCs for boomstick
Otherwise I've gotten a nice collection, even if most of them are engineer OCs.
crisp escarp
I only just got a single overclock for the burst pistol
I was so happy
It took me forever
thorny geyser
Which one? Flechettes?
crisp escarp
Nah it was the clean one, I forget the name
Lower cooldown between bursts
Or faster repeated shooting however you want to phrase it
thorny geyser
That's pretty decent one for burst spam builds.
crisp escarp
Yeah I like it
thorny geyser
I got flechettes some time ago, never running out of ammo again.
crisp escarp
Hell I'm just glad I finally got one
I think it's the only gunner sidearm one I've gotten
Instead been getting Scout and Driller ones
Not that I mind, Driller's my second choice
thorny geyser
I mostly play heavy dwarves, but I dont mind towering mountain of engie OCs at all.
hoary gust
ye this week EDD is so easy, last week EDD was also easy
i dont think there can be edd harder than Loud Impact
like ever
woeful marten
doesn't matter if it was easy, as long as it is fun I don't care about the difficulty and I really enjoyed this week as well
outer pasture
@hoary gust Was that the terrible Magma Core one?
or the one with the bulk in that super small cave
those two were annoying
crisp escarp
The one in Biozone with the ghost and the near vertical point extraction was so goddamn annoying
Or was it bogs....doesn't really matter
outer pasture
Ugh, stage 2 was a pain
exotic oxide
Well you could have an identical EDD except the salvage + lethal enemies is on stage 3
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Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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harsh steppe
Don't kick mission control please.
hasty scarab
I don't know why, but playing Daft Punk (alive 2007 - especially) in background, while playing this game feels just amazing.
orchid merlin
when you carry coppers on your and getting kicked about 30mins into the dive just because you took two pips of a supply because you had the topped the combined kills of the rest of your 3 evles. No XP no Money. I love it what a damn waste of time
feral atlas
you know
this is why you just don't join such teams
if you know you can carry, be the host
orchid merlin
I haven't unlocked every cosmetic yet to get to that point
feral atlas
I've bought everything buyable
orchid merlin
I feel like cheated cause getting kicked in stage 3 without beeing rewarded
feral atlas
done every EDD/DD/Core hunt, forged everthing
and still have 3 mil credits
they should let me accumulate interest
orchid merlin
global level 400+?
feral atlas
honestly, you could just edit you resources file
grind for the sake of grind ends up making your unhappy
I'm not against grind as a probationary mechanism to make you learn a class before you progress to new tools
orchid merlin
honestly, you could just edit you resources file <<
feral atlas
but if you're past that point, I see no purpose
I just personally don't like grind that makes you feel like you're obligated to risk it with bad teams for the resources.
Which is what it sounds like is happening with you.
orchid merlin
i want to unlock all cosmetics at one point
still missing some mods that i really want to have
orchid merlin
Fat Boi for the engie and i got the best engie build for trash and biggies
nah was talking about the time investment
feral atlas
you can get both playing missions you actually enjoy, with players actually worth playing with
orchid merlin
now its just for the sake of gold grinding
feral atlas
fat boy is pretty niche
and typically just outright bad
it has a very select few situations where I would see taking it as being the informed choice
orchid merlin
o rock an almost slug like shotgun build able to one shot any medium bug to the face
BC is hot garbage to use on trash even with clean OCs
Magnetic Pellet Alignment OC 1 2 2 3 2
i would rather use the fatboy in combination with the hologram again then the unreliable plasma burster
dark lark
I don''t think spamming DDs is the best for gold right?
inland wraith
depends how fast you do it
i soloed a regular deep dive last night and did it in an hour and 20 minutes
obviously you guys can do better
since youre good players
so might be more viable for you all
with a full team it'll go much faster
feral atlas
You can probably get the EDD in 35 or fewer minutes if you hustle with a team
it does tend to generate more credits/time than normal haz5
but then again, I strip mine on haz5, which isn't the best for grinding efficiency
dark lark
EDD is 16500 for 3
inland wraith
that isnt bad
feral atlas
EDD is probably worth grinding if grinding were worth it
feral atlas
but, overall, you will eventually get to a place where grinding means nothing
which is where I'm at
dark lark
@inland wraith If you play normal missions and sell minerals, you can easily reach around 8000 credits for a mission
Just got 8k for a mission in 8 mins.
feral atlas
Probably. But I don't play missions for credits or minerals at this point.
dark lark
I mean, a simple mienral mania would be a massivbe bank balance
inland wraith
i mean if youre a veteran i guess
dark lark
And if you're being bottlenecked by credits you should sell tbh.
inland wraith
true
dark lark
But here's the thing
You don't get any minerals for DDs anyway lmao
So either way you're not hoarding anything.
feral atlas
Waste of ammo either way, but yes, they exist in both
inland wraith
why a waste?
feral atlas
Better used to create a margin of error for the mission, but this is coming form a guy that doesn't need minerals and only plays haz5
So my opinion is not necessarily relevant for your situatuon
dark lark
A mineral mania gave me 25000 credits worth of mineral, +2500 actual bonus on haz4.
In 23 mins. So in non DDs you can easily average 1000 credits a minute.
exotic oxide
I still think the best credit farming mission is parasites + golden bugs
But that's not super common
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hollow flower
RNG?
fringe kettle
both a pro and con for procedurally generated maps
hollow flower
Never understand why people get so surprised. With how much RNG changes in this game is it really any surprise when the difficulty varies so much?
kindred ferry
I mean, what's interesting is that these are the same spawn rates, the same enemy damage and health values, the same modifiers, and yet it's a world of difference
full saddle
theres a few things going into making this one easy, not having any sort of defense style mission helps
less time you spend in a level the better, and haz 5 salvages can get kinda rough
none of the negative mutators really matter at all
and crit weakness on stage 1 is incredible
the double mules on stage 1 and 2 also mean you have a lot more nitra than normal
kindred ferry
Was there crit weakness? I never noticed
full saddle
yep
full saddle
i think thats a pretty big part of it lol
rancid quail
what's the diff level on EDD? was it 4/5/5?
carmine bronze
4.5/5/5.5
hollow flower
If you've promoted once you should be fine
rancid quail
I attempted solo-ing the EDD I got past stage 1
but at stage 2 I just found myself fending off swarms rather than doing the objective 😦
hollow flower
Duo it with someone, makes it easier
hollow flower
haha i'd try it again with someone before the reset, I'm sure you can do it :)
rancid quail
well finding someone where we'll both have stable connection is another challenge
I feel like my best bet for solo play would be the driller... I usually do fine with big mobs but when I get overwhelmed with swarms I just panic
hollow flower
Depends on how bad ping is, honestly would just ask around
dark lark
Im down to try to do it
I'm use to playing large ping, since I often play with americans and zweiz's terrible internet ;P
rancid quail
you wanna carry me?
I mean I'll try and carry my weight as much as I can but I already failed once haha
hollow flower
better stream your POV mushu
hollow flower
hells yea, I'll join if it does
dark lark
ditched
carmine bronze
Are you EU, mushu?
next pebble
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carmine bronze
ah, just trying to figure out who I could connect to on the discord with a reasonable ping
learned the other day I can get less than 50 listed ping to UK players
so now i can annoy half the world
hollow flower
No
wraith shard
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hollow flower
no they aren;t
buoyant token
You just did not hold E for long enough then
woeful marten
any info on new DD/EDD?
pure portal
Cancer Caves and EDD finally Cristaline Caverns
its the first time that biome showed up
torn wagon
I think they spoke about the normal DD. It's the radioactive one
The EDD is pretty easy expect maybe the last stage. It's the salvage mission with Shield disruption
pure portal
Yes cancer caves xD I mean radioactive
torn wagon
Although I think the swamp is much worse. I had a pretty shitty cave in that today. Green slow-mo shit on the whole ground, everywhere (and I mean everywhere) the poison plants, it was very dark and the rolling bugs came on every wave. THAT was cancer lol
slate pine
That third stage is a dousy