what are the satge objective for the preseant edd?
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fluid bison
river turret
gusty fern
Stage 2 is actually not that hard imo
No bulks so you can safely bunker the extraction
fluid bison
still this is usefull, thank you
meager sky
that thing?
just failed out the EDD stage 1 first try, that's up in med bay. But I got very different credits and XP reward so I doubt anything on it is accurate
and there's no way that's hazard 3, the grunts hit like hazard 4 for sure
feral atlas
almost 100% certain it's not haz3, or complexity or length 1
length 1 complexity 1 PE is 5 blue rocks iirc
not 10
meager sky
For level 1? It's 10 aquarqs, gotta be more than length 1, yeah
Though complexity might be 1, it's kinda just one big cavern
But I think that panel is nonsense. I got something around 5k and 6k for credits and xp
feral atlas
most of the stuff in that room is nonsense, included the player screens that show your career downs
meager sky
Though liability status is fair...
harsh steppe
The readout in medbay is incorrect - it's based on hazard 3, but with a lot of modifications. There's no hazard number that fit the adjustment, since it's not 3, but also not 4, but probably somewhere in-between, due to the variables.
hollow flower
So what are both DDs hazards roughly based on? Is it roughly what we've heard before of 3-3.5-4 and 4.5-5-5.5?
woeful marten
Just wanted to share yesterday's EDD experience, been trying with my friend for a week to play with 2 other randoms, no go, yesterday again very disappointing experience with people totally oblivious to what is happening around them or to teammates, no communication etc., We were about to give up, then went for last try when two new guys joined the lobby. I said, let's ask them to join discord, if they do we give it one more try. Well they did join = good players right. It wasn't bad, bit messy and we died stage2. But they communicated well and looked for each other. We gave it another go and aced it, not many issues, stage2 with lovely bunkers and stage3 was very easy.
It is wonderful how game experience changes when you get together with nice people. It was like a different DRG than I am used to know.
vital peak
😍
solemn pulsar
Confirmed, EDD stage 1 "based" on Haz3 !
woeful marten
would be nice to somehow create game mechanics that reward/promote teamplay, maybe ppl would slowly learn to work together and the game experience would be better for everyone
dark lark
Possibly a commendation button. A person collects enough commendations and they can claim a small credits bonus from the community terminal.
hollow flower
That would be very sweet
dark lark
Already been suggested however. I don't want to upset the tater 😛
Hence the collects enough commendations. Let's just say 10 for the sake of argument for 500 credits.
hollow flower
Just saying 20 credits is 20 credits
dark lark
Once you've given someone a commendation you can't do it again.
So even if someone had 100 friends that owned DRG, convinced all 100 of them to give them a commendation.
So worst case scenario they get 5000 credits. It's more a symbolic thing.
solemn pulsar
500 credits ? Rofl, are you from management ?
woeful marten
commendations wouldn't work I think, but yeah, let's leave it for suggestions chat
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harsh steppe
fierce jacinth
tardy pier
Oh boy I can't wait for another sandblasted corridor and magmacore mission 
solemn pulsar
Please let it be on another biome
unkempt breach
anyone doing elite deep dive?
woeful marten
can you fit?
unkempt breach
fit?
unborn lark
3 dwarf for the elite? i can do all but i pref engy or driller
unkempt breach
lol
thorny geyser
make EDD fungus bog or radioactive exclusion zone so people can rage about uranium and goo instead of magma
timber blade
I break the Rads Crystals lol
burnt oasis
I like sandblasted, though
Since you can actually dig there in a reasonable time
Driller helpful but not necessary
fierce jacinth
well we got the sand storms then
fierce jacinth
and if a horde of explodie boys come your way then you're pretty much fucked
unless you use a shield ofc
burnt oasis
Dense, radiation, and crystal are the most benign though
fierce jacinth
radiation is quite easy to handle tbh
magma and sandblasted n sometimes the ice biome, well they are to be considered the more harder/annoying ones id think
bitter garnet
Magma Corse is definetly teh most annoying
fierce jacinth
yea
burnt oasis
Yes
burnt oasis
The darkest, the one full of the most regular hazards, and all explosives create difficult terrain
bitter garnet
The one that tends to create minerals on hte ceiling where even scout+engi have trouble reaching
burnt oasis
The only one that matches in terms of how often you lose HP to environmental effects is fungus bogs
fierce jacinth
fungus bogs is a very annoying one xp
bitter garnet
It used to be the most annoying one on release
fierce jacinth
with the constant toxic air that gets blown out of the mushrooms
but im glad that the game has some annoying n difficult biomes
makes you think more then just having to run through a tame biome
bitter garnet
Annoyance level IMO:
Magma Core > Sandblasted > Glacial > Fungus > Radioactive > Salt pits > Crystaline
Hold that CTRL and wiggle the mouse like if you were ill
fierce jacinth
tbh the difference on icons with the 
and aquarq isnt that big, its very close to eachother, im wondering if they used the base icon of the dystrum n added a few more shapes to it
or maybe it just looks like it in game
pure portal
Alright I just did the deep dive solo
games not hard, game is not a battle
why bother
nerf bosco he's too strong
wraith shard
there is a dread though
full raft
Bosco > Dread
wraith shard
sure i'll try, solo scout is the best i guess?
harsh steppe
MFW I still lose 
pure portal
I got the explosive reload and electric for M1000 overclock for scout
so far both are pretty garbage
xd
I thought the electric one will be a meme for Hoarders
wraith shard
i have the explosive one for the subtica, does it do aoe dmg?
pure portal
but it only electocutes if target has been hit with focus shot in weak point
wraith shard
subata*
pure portal
harder has no weakpoint
and rest just dies
the zhukov ones does not I think
will test more
so it works the same probably for subata
wraith shard
probably
pure portal
and the target needs to be alive
wraith shard
yeah noticed
pure portal
if you shoot the ground it does nothing
at leas cold ones work
if you shoot the ground
but not if directly
so the suck too
wraith shard
whatever is called minelets works on hitting the ground
so the gunner has an electric one on the BRT
anyway is scout the easiest class solo?
pure portal
I think so I did scout
I died 5 times cuz of my stupid mistakes
but it was pretty easy
stage 3 has BET-C
as soon as you leave the pod
wraith shard
i dont care about stage 3 i only want the weapon OC xD
wraith shard
and lethal enemies?
pure portal
yes
śtage 3 is parasites
also you should care for cosmetic it gives forge mastery
which gives weapon OC too
I have 11 forge mastery
or 10
I don't remember
thorny geyser
Stage 3 is ez breezy compared to stage 2.
Almost stress free stroll through ash and obsidian.
wraith shard
i dont play enough to get the minerals for forging cosmetics
wise sphinx
well you have 2 options to solve that
play more
or
[censored]
pure portal
Electro minlets are trash too xd
lets shoot the ground instead of the enemy
the electro ticks deal like 2-4 damage
it's not that good
no enemy is even weak to electricity
only hoarder
stray escarp
I'm so angry at myself because I failed stage 3.
Bet-c popped the dread while I was dealing with 3 spitballers in a room full of fire vents while a wave was announced.
Only 18ish hours to go and I don't have the energy to do stage 2 again
meager topaz
I hear ya
soft adder
@pure portal who did you use for solo elite deep dive? Ive heard of scouts/drillers doing so
pure portal
Scout is the best for solo in my opinion
Drillers not bad either
If someone needs help with the deep dive ping me we can try something EU only cuz lag is bad if you're form USA or Australia
hollow flower
Scout got a lot better at solo with the recent gk2 changes
wraith shard
there are lots of swarmers on the this EDD
what zhukov build do you use @pure portal
pure portal
wait I'll finish this mission and tell you
@wraith shard I run 2-3-2-2-1
with IFG conjunction
so you throw on a swarm and try to hit as many weakpoints as possible
swarms melt
swarmers die in 1 hit if in IFG field
and also the higher accuracy for finishing of distant targets if they have really low health so it's a waste to use M1000 shot
and you can take ammo on as the first upgrade but without damage it the jellies don't die in 1 shot and it is annoying me
thorny geyser
Zhuks are pretty damn good for chaff removal, but range is little more than spitting distance.
pure portal
They are
I don't bother using them at long range unless enemy is really low
and it would be a waste to shoot it with M1000
and yea you can take damage instead of accurace
but it helps with hitting the weakpoints
burnt oasis
Why use the IFG over pheromones when you can control the entire swarm and not just 5 grunts and a slasher?
The IFG does have a good niche use in tossing it over a fallen comrade to be a poor man's shield as you clutch a revive, I suppose
willow tulip
Good combo with stubby too
pure portal
@burnt oasis The Pheromones are kinda a crutch yea but they do not help you kill shit bugs attacking each other does jack shit unless it's a bulk and he rarely spawns unless that's me idk IFG can be both offensivly and defensivly plus you get more of them
and the last upgrade with zhukovs and base weakining of ifgs makes them really good
burnt oasis
What
pure portal
also throw bulk and shoot he's weakpoint with M1000
burnt oasis
You...you toss the pheromone, and then the swarm is controlled
pure portal
he melts
burnt oasis
What you do after depends on the situation
burnt oasis
Are you low on HP? Wade in with your pick and fill up
Do you just need them dead? Dump DPS or let a fellow dwarf slap the shit out of it with AOE
pure portal
yea but they don't halep with the dps
burnt oasis
The bugs are hurting each other, it helps with the DPS
pure portal
also if you kill nemies affected with pheromones effects dissaperas
ifgs last longer
they don't do that much
only bulk kills swarms
I hope they nerf the pheromone to the ground cuz I'm salty the nerfed lure and pheromone is godlike still
I mena you're not wrong stil prefer IFG
burnt oasis
Even if they nerfed pheromones to not pull in uncovered bugs it'd still be top tier
pure portal
Every scouts grenade is useful
meanwhile other classes grenades don't have that huge of an impact
hollow flower
They should have nerfed it's AOE, and I think that's what is going to happen to phermones
pure portal
don't care still gonna use IFGs
pure portal
~Well it's prefernace man
burnt oasis
Yeah the electric damage on the zhuks is a bad choice
pure portal
I run what I said and I destroy with it
wraith shard
i mean i thought you said you use it to clear swarmers, your build isnt really good for it, asides the accuracy maybe
burnt oasis
It's something you can do 4 times once or 2 times per resupply
Whereas the movement speed procs every time
pure portal
it's good
you 3 tap everything
also IFGs are better for destroying everything
pheromones give only a breathing room
and it's kinda stupid
wraith shard
i might change the +2 dmg to -50% base spread like you though
burnt oasis
You know what? Okay. Enjoy your build.
Yeah I do recommend the less spread too though
Missed shot is 0 damage
And it makes them pretty reliable
pure portal
I was running damage
but switched to the spread
cuz it's nice
easier to hit weakpoints and finish low distant targets
wraith shard
how much health does a swarmer have on an EDD
wraith shard
i have that dmg OC i never bothered to forge for the zhukovs
pure portal
Didn't try it don't have it to check if it's better
I mean killing shit in 3 shots saves ammo too
if you don't spray like a madman
wraith shard
i have the M1000 for single target dmg, i have nothing for a crowd
wraith shard
well if they are for crowds i'd use blowthrough
tht's the OC -
+5 Damage
x0 Weakpoint Damage Bonus
x1.5 Base Spread
-50% Movement Speed While Using
puts you over 15dmg
burnt oasis
15 combined damage, I believe, which isn't shabby
wraith shard
16 pretty sure
burnt oasis
But you take less accuracy and the movement speed penalty for the scout matters
wraith shard
yeah...
wraith shard
i also have the clean one...
+2 Combined Rate of Fire
-0.4 Reload Time
with the reload mod, it has a 0.8s reload time
kindred ferry
It happened again
terse yacht
Lemme guess, sandblasted corridors again? @kindred ferry
stray escarp
Welp this was the last attempt. Finally found a group to give a hand, at the very end of the stage 2 the scout decides that "parkouring around" to avoid enemies was a good idea instead of holding together with the rest of the team. Got one shot by a mactera and we could really have used some of his grenades.
My iron will ended when I was at the door to the drop pod and we failed the mission...
feral atlas
Well, let's put it this way.
The people that are still trying it, 12 hours before the refresh?
Who still haven't gotten the EDD done.
There's a high chance that they're still trying it because they're the reason why their team is failing.
Not a good idea to pub the EDD atm.
Probably wasn't a good idea since Monday.
stray escarp
To be fair I also have the suspicion that he was doing quite a lot of mistakes. On the big room of stage 2 he tried rushing repairing the mini mules which I believe triggers a bunch of small waves. Me and the driller just stood at the entrace of the room funneling all the enemies while the scout was down from waking up a spitballer
I don't know if its worth it soloing and using all that energy and time for a comestic and one forge mastery.
I already got the weapon overclock. That's the big prize right?...
feral atlas
If you plan on doing the EDD in pubs, it's a get them done Thur-Sunday, or expect to fail.
meager topaz
i just completed it with pubs
it went really well
wooo
bunker on stage 2 is key
crashed right after completing the edd
stray escarp
I hate bunkers but I sinned and we built one on stage 2. EDD with lethal enemies and the exquisite selection of bugs we had to deal with? Screw that, it's bunker time.
Why the scout decided to leave when the fuel cells were done will always haunt me...
hollow flower
No sin there, this weeks EDD were brutal
hollow yarrow
I keep trying with pubs and failing
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zinc kiln
I thought the EDD was simple
I must be thinking of something else right...?
I did it with some friends and it took 2 attempts since the first stage was the hardest
still a lot simpler than the last few with the Bulks spawning on the 3rd stage black box
thorny geyser
First stage, really?
covert heath
EDD is magma core, and on top of that it's got a Lethal Enemies. I noped out of that before noping was a thing... no EDD for me this week. heh
stray escarp
Also a salvage mission. Because having macteras eating through your shield + 75% of your health in one shot wasn't enough
zinc kiln
Yeh
dense tundra
awwww man why can't you cheese the morkite from dive 2 into dive 3 😦
wanton cloak
verbal wagon
Probably has been asked before but does EDD reward cores along with Regular DD or are they tied together.
wind nest
@verbal wagon you get cores for completing EDD missions just like DD both seperate from eachother so if you completed both DD and EDD you'd get 6 cores
verbal wagon
Thank you~ However this weeks EDD is on magma...and magma is already pretty awful. But thankfully reset is soon!
wind nest
@verbal wagon hopefully in about 7-8hours EDD/DD will be changing!
verbal wagon
So how worse is EDD compared to RDD
wind nest
If you can do Haz5 then you can possibly do EDD 🥔
loud nymph
copper oasis
Anyone having issues with the elite deep dive this week?
spare delta
Stage 2 is spicy
spare delta
Outsmart the bugs
wind nest
Stage 2 of EDD can be brutal if you let the swarms overrun you
pure portal
Pub too hard cuz more shit lags and need good team
copper oasis
Magma Core is already my least favorite zone this EDD is no beuno
wet ridge
No matter how hard I try, no matter what strategy I use, no matter what gear combination or class choice, I still can't win. Playing in pubs is borderline awful so I like to play solo. I'm exhausted from the amount of tries I made in it, and even spent hours training to get better.
wind nest
Magma has it's perks, you can use the lava to kill the bugs via kiting lol
wet ridge
So I guess you could say I'm having a couple issues
wind nest
Scout seems to be the easiest to do EDD with
pure portal
If you want to win go solo
If you want a challange with a high chance of losing go pubs
with 4 ppl
2 ppl is good too I guess
spare delta
Solo engi worked well for me
copper oasis
My buddies and I did the elite deep dive together and just failed 3 times. This is the first dive we havent finished
wind nest
ahh what was a good engi strat for EDD
spare delta
Twenty proximity mines and bug repellant
spare delta
Or get 3 or 4 gunners and chain the shields
pure portal
Bosco is overpowered tho
wind nest
Bosco is also slow at keeping up!
pure portal
yea if nothing works stack 4 of the same class for memes and confusing the bugs you'll win 100% of the time
also I cant play pubs or play good cuz my PC is shit and also if someone host from far away that combines and there is so much lag its unplayable for me a shame cuz pub EDD is fun
I need to host and I'm not the best host too
spare delta
Dont stack 4 scouts, youll have to listen to four elves scream at once
pure portal
4 Scout best team comp
chilly flicker
Man Stage 2 of this weeks EDD is something
wind nest
6 hours ish left before the reset
chilly flicker
Its nice to get over the hill of an awful mission 2
verbal wagon
I just hate magma core. It makes everything worse.
last veldt
anyone have any tips for dreadnaughts on magma core?
i guess besides a standard driller kiting tunnel
last veldt
i think we were just uncoordinated or something. This is for the third stage. Somehow people kept going down even when the dreadnaught wasn't aggro'd on them
chilly flicker
Also I recommend two gunners a driller and a scout
last veldt
and it wasn't during a swarm
i guess people were just low hp and died to all the lava ground everywhere
from the dreadnaught's fireballs blowing up the ground
rotund ivy
you should avoid fighting the dread in the room with the leeches, the floor always goes bad there
real wolf
gunner on a zipline high enough for be unreachable for bugs and with a zipline motor solves all the dreadnought killing issues
you don't have macteras at stage one also
rotund ivy
this is stage 3
real wolf
same shit really
dark lark
last veldt
yeah we fought the dread right under the leeches
and it just became lava city
thanks mushu
woeful marten
@dark lark steam guide? 🙂
dark lark
Nah that’s just a Reddit post
woeful marten
I know, steam guide would be awesome
dark lark
I made it after I saw a component driller and gunner just completely forget how to kite dreads lol
I cover dreadnought in my driving hazard 5 guide but that needs to be updated. It’s good but could be better
woeful marten
can you link me pls
woeful marten
thank you very much
soft adder
Anytime
dark lark
Hats my weapon guide not my hazard 5 guide lol but my haz5 guide is linked st the top of the page XD
woeful marten
2 and 2 together = hazard 5 🙂
vital lava
after how many time start new deep dive?
tawdry halo
Today 1400 CEST which is in 3 hours and 44 minutes
vital lava
thank you
tardy pier
Can somebody tell me the time until the next deepdive?
tardy pier
Uh be quick about it if you haven't done it. Later today it resets.
wraith shard
aye, I know
tawdry halo
Fakiyo, look up a few messages
solemn pulsar
New Deep Dive in 3 hours 17 minutes.
wind nest
For solo Deep dives is bosco's revive reset?
tardy pier
I wonder why DD is so early reset. Maybe to have DEVs react if something is wrong?
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nocturne dust
It's not really early is it? It's early afternoon for the devs afaik
tawdry halo
It resets at 1400 (2PM) danish time. So not that early tbh
buoyant token
PM?
tawdry halo
Pm, sorry
buoyant token
No issue, just checking
brave dune
@wind nest Bosco's revives reset on stage change
wind nest
ok thx
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indigo jungle
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vital peak
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sleek elbow
Dense and Fungus respectively for DD and EDD.
waxen dawn
Uuuugh goddamn mushrooms.
waxen dawn
Hopefully the Poison Fungus Spores won't be too bad.
waxen dawn
I'm not at all fond of Fungus Bogs.
kindred ferry
There's a fungus among us
waxen dawn
Poison Fungus spores AND randomly-spawning sticky goo.
gentle valley
meanwhile I need to get an egg which is floating in the air
warm fog
Is it me, or does the first DD have the same seed as last week?
meager topaz
There are no glyphids - the entire map is sticky and covered with fungus - and low O2 - the ultimate EDD
kindred ferry
That actually sounds really appealing
I'd love to try that just for the vibe
Just a trek through the bog
sick wren
Even devs don't farm gold in DD, should've changed it for something different
visual flower
So what's the mutators look like for EDD this week?
cursive cedar
if your a scout and you encounter the floating egg with no explosives, use a supply drop 😎
dusky spire
EDD stage 1 : Lethal Enemies
dusky spire
Stage 1 is not so hard, collect 200 morkite and 1 black box
bitter garnet
I dont have time to check, can someone tell me the stages of EDD? The warnings and biome if possible thanks.
pale aspen
Sooooo
turbid viper
New deep dives in -1 hour 🤔
pale aspen
I can't get an egg on DD 2
because its floating and I made sure its not stuck to any land.
Even Bosco can't get it.
feral scarab
we blew it up with c4 to dislodge it
amber wasp
same here
feral scarab
maybe building platforms and digging it out of the platforms works as well
amber wasp
I'm a solo engi...let's see what I can do
waxen dawn
The devs platformed it IIRC?
visual flower
Anyone find out the mutators for this weeks edd yet?
dusky spire
EDD1 Lethal
hollow flower
Seems like lethal then mactera
visual flower
Noice
waxen dawn
EDD1 does have volatile guts though.
strong cedar
DD2, floating egg: take aim and hit it with drop pod. gunner/scout duo here
i mean resupply pod*
waxen dawn
You can also platform it, and apparently C4 works too.
spare delta
What are the EDD stage 3 objectives?
feral scarab
aquarq and morkite
dusky spire
10 Aquarqsand 150 Morkite
spare delta
Sounds tame
feral scarab
it's a very small cave as well, done in minutes
visual flower
what's the other objectives for EDD?
visual flower
Oh nice
spare delta
Lots of black boxes this week
mild prism
if the last one is salvage than this is gon be annoying
visual flower
Last is apparently extract/mining on low O2
mild prism
k, not as bad, but crap
hollow flower
Lovely
mild prism
that's a lot of defense goin on in this EDD
indigo jungle
this week's DD was easier
hollow flower
There was a lot last week. Mostly on part 2
thorny geyser
modifiers seem easier than last week
bitter garnet
Low O2 can be really bad depending on the map
wind nest
the O2 map is pretty good
thorny geyser
low o2 isnt too bad in PE
wind nest
only 2 levels of deepness
bitter garnet
really? good
wind nest
easy to find teh gems
bitter garnet
Thanks Zod
thorny geyser
mactera plague huh
wind nest
there is also plenty of nitra in deeper areas
meager topaz
Thanks potato
hollow flower
It’s not lethal. Rather not cheese it
wraith shard
definitely, just did it 1st try
fierce jacinth
thats because we were on the same team
hollow flower
I mean last weeks was probably the hardest we’ll see in a while
wraith shard
stage 3 is small so low oxy is kind of a joke tbh
wraith shard
yea before i realised it it was over
fierce jacinth
ye xD
wraith shard
only noticed it cuz engi kept getting nibbled to death
full raft
How many bulks total?
full raft
Huh. Suspicious.
soft wigeon
For the egg that is stuck on DD2 I’m a scout solo and I just called a supply drop under it and got it
feral scarab
we had one spawn at the first drop pod, but we left before it could do anything
mild prism
wind nest
or just bad at shooting them
hollow flower
Eh. Pheromones and shields carry you through black boxes
wind nest
so does good teaming ;O)
hollow flower
Or in your case bunkering ;P
wind nest
and it worked
wraith shard
ez
full raft
Air quotations
wraith shard
stage 1 lethal enemies volatile guts
stage 2 mactera plagie
stage 3 low oxy but small stage
you just need to shoot
outer pasture
black box stage 3?
wraith shard
no
outer pasture
niiiice
hollow flower
PE
outer pasture
is stage 3 extraction?
outer pasture
so actually relaxing this time 😮
wraith shard
and the rest is with the nitra in the corver
like there was 1 lone aqua
that I picked up
wind nest
lot of whiny players on - being chased by a ghost yet team are eager for the scout to fire flares out
wraith shard
well they can't see in front of their feet without some flares 😄
also anyway to turn of the emojis?
outer pasture
hosted the dd earlier, i played engi, kited the ghost and put down all the platforms
i dont get why haunted is sucha problem for many
visual flower
Yeah the ghost bulk is so slow if you have ears it shouldnt be a problem
Doesnt even oneshot
ocean tartan
Deep Dive Info
Regular
Location: Dense Biozone
Stage 1:
⚠ None
| Point Extraction
| Elimination
Stage 2:
⚠ Haunted Cave & Critical Weakness
| Egg Hunt
| Mini M.U.L.E.S
Stage 3:
⚠ Mactera Plague
| Point Extraction
| Black Box
Elite
Location: Fungus Bogs
Stage 1:
⚠ Volatile Guts & Lethal Enemies
| Mining
| Black Box
Stage 2:
⚠ Mactera Plague
| Egg Hunt
| Black Box
Stage 3:
⚠ Low Oxygen
| Point Extraction
| Mining
for anyone interested
mild prism
Tranq rounds from Deep Dive normal? That's amazing
wind nest
first mission of DD done within 8mins lol
hollow flower
Haunted could probably use a few buffs tbh
mild prism
Yea I think the region has a big impact on the difficulty
feral atlas
mild prism
probably why last weeks EDD was so troublesome
feral atlas
EDD is honestly kinda pathetically easy.
waxen dawn
How bad is this week's EDD in terms of sticky goo and gassy mushrooms?
wind nest
its not too bad vs the last one
mild prism
wind nest
playing DD after EDD just feels like a breath of fresh cavern air
eternal plinth
What is the black box objective? Never seen one of those.
mild prism
It's like uplink on a salvage, except you only do the uplink part
safe shale
Hello there, i have a few problem on the normal deep dive, stage 2, i have to retrieve eggs but i'm coming to a room where's a egg is floating in the air, and have no hitbox, i cannot retrieve it, nor bosco... Anyone had this issue ?
thick ridge
you can also spam platforms to reach it
wind nest
@safe shale happned on my DD run, a bulk blew up a nest the egg was just floating there in midair
spare delta
C4 is also rumored to work
wind nest
luckly we had a scout lol
mild prism
it works
wind nest
I guess gravity needs to effect the eggs
safe shale
heeeeeeeee, i'm on solo, with the gunner x) I will try with the supplu
wind nest
bad eggs tend to float 
waxen dawn
Platform it.
wind nest
scout solo it, lot of fun flying about
timber blade
Wait so do Eggs not have physics applied to them if they were to somehow spawn outside of the organic material?
wind nest
@timber blade doesnt look like it
timber blade
Other things do I'd assume Eggs as well, guess not
wind nest
maybe its just the bulk
waxen dawn
The devs IIRC reckon that it's the floating island stuff that removes the geometry the egg was in.
wind nest
if C4 loosens it, the bulk one doesnt
timber blade
Well I guess that explains it Alta
wind nest
bad eggs
timber blade
So this thing somehow generated in mid-air away from everything else?
Cave gen is weird
mild prism
yup
waxen dawn
It probably generated in terrain, but the floating island removal stuff meant that the terrain despawned.
timber blade
Yeah that's what I meant, the organic stuff
timber blade
Bulks are a bit of a meme unless they spawn in your escape tunnel or sneak up on you
wind nest
they seem so easy to kill with a gunner, pistol the puss and blop! its gone
timber blade
Bulldog the pustules and dakka the rest away
waxen dawn
Surprise bulks are fun but terrifying.
Really get the adrenaline pumping. Last week during the EDD run that I succeeded on there was a surprise bulk in the tunnel with us during our first mission 3 dread fight.
thick ridge
I had a surprise double bulk
where we got trapped in a very narrow tunnel with a bulk spawning blocking the path out on either end while running back to the drop pod
timber blade
I was running a Sandblasted mission just two days ago and in the narrow escape tunnel there's a Bulk like "Yo what's up"
Pants-shitting terror
mild prism
spawned in, got all set up with nitra and supply pod on 2nd mission, turn around, bulk det
like, whyyyyy
kindred ferry
Bulks are reason number 4617 you need a Driller
honest atlas
Can someone post a picture of the deep dives areas for me please?
mild prism
Originally posted by @ocean tartan
Deep Dive Info
Regular
Location: Dense Biozone
Stage 1:
⚠ None
| Point Extraction
| Elimination
Stage 2:
⚠ Haunted Cave & Critical Weakness
| Egg Hunt
| Mini M.U.L.E.S
Stage 3:
⚠ Mactera Plague
| Point Extraction
| Black Box
Elite
Location: Fungus Bogs
Stage 1:
⚠ Volatile Guts & Lethal Enemies
| Mining
| Black Box
Stage 2:
⚠ Mactera Plague
| Egg Hunt
| Black Box
Stage 3:
⚠ Low Oxygen
| Point Extraction
| Mining
honest atlas
Thanks. I just wanted the areas, I’d rather find the rest out myself.
kindred ferry
"Volatile guts and lethal enemies"
what the fuuuuuuuuuuuckk
mild prism
you can view that by going to the deep dive startup and viewing it there..
brittle relic
These don't seem that bad tbh
previous deep dives (Especially EDD's) had some pretty nasty combos of mutators
kindred ferry
As a flamethrower wielding vampire beserker Drilldozer, Volatile Guts and Lethal Enemies seems very bad
fresh sundial
The first elite deep dive isn't bad. It's really short
thick ridge
its also the first stage
fresh sundial
They're all really short tbh
thick ridge
so if you fuck up immediately you can just retry again
fresh sundial
Two was a bit more troublesome, once we ended the black box room anyway
hollow pawn
yea, too easy
outer pasture
two clean ocs
and lots of beards
but not a single helmet again
i just want a helmet 😦
wind nest
Not every dwarf is highly skilled
fresh sundial
I think it would be nice if we could set the difficulty for the normal deep dive, with the minimum difficulty being what it is
I'd like to go higher for the normal one
outer pasture
Nah
wind nest
@fresh sundial DD is Haz4? which is pretty easy with a team
outer pasture
They want more casuals players to complete deep dives too
and that would not fly with haz 4.5
wind nest
the only way you can screw up a Haz4 is having a bad team lol
fringe plover
or being bad
stray escarp
Finished this week's EDD on my first go. Compared to last week it was easy. Dare I say, enjoyable.
half cipher
To any solo players having issues with the floating egg: telling Bosco to shoot a rocket at it is a quick and easy way to dislodge it. In case it hasn't been said before.
stray escarp
I didn't noticed any floating eggs. There was one kinda in the roof but I just told Bosco to mine it.
half cipher
Stage 2 of the Regular DD should (or might) have it. Sorry, I should have been more specific.
atomic bane
Yep, stage 2
open umbra
saved me bacon, cheers
half cipher
Glad I was able to help someone
hollow flower
Think DDs should be easier or harder? Like where they are now? Voice your opinion on the survey https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1oGi6P3UJ7AGrRmNJVIjfyzmYAtcFqDtyPb38_yxjcwY/edit
fringe kettle
got the egg issue in a group, how'd y'all get it?
feral atlas
@fringe kettle just look at the DD/EDd weekly thread on reddit
fringe kettle
what's the subreddit?
feral atlas
you see the #519428953945931786 channel?
harsh steppe
we platformed the bugger
full raft
F
harsh steppe
we only tried once, to mentally prepare for tomorrow
covert heath
What causes that kind of error, so that the egg isn't interactable?
Seems like an easy fix, whatever it is
Maybe have it doublecheck for gravity after the pod touches down at start. The pod could knock it loose on landing
iron cosmos
for whoever wants to do this weeks EDD
BRING A SCOUT WITH PHEROMONES
it will basically solo you through level 1
2 is doable with any semi ok team comp
and 3 is extraction, and was quite doable for once
then again our driller ran off after lvl 1 so YMMV
but pheromones REALLY REALLY HELP for this weeks EDD
since it makes the bugs in level 1 blow up the entire wave
rotund ivy
3rd mission is so short, you can get all the objectives in less than 4 minutes
iron cosmos
yeah i had one good guy and one noob with me so it took a bit longer, but that noob was really surprised to make it though EDD lol
this weeks one is easier than the last 2 weeks
rotund ivy
i would rate it as the easiest out of all the ones we've had so far
drillers could get an extremely good time this dive
shut sierra
yo, anyone wanna do the good ol' regular DD/core hunt
I usually do EDDs in the evening, when the good players are on
hollow pawn
you can do edd with regular folk
sullen rock
Any news on this weeks EDD
hollow flower
Yea it’s out
hollow flower
Nah it’s easier for sure. Last weeks is the hardest we’ll see for a while
atomic bane
I wonder if they can construct even harder one without dumb stuffing it with bugs.
sullen rock
If they hand made the levels it would definitely be harder but really interesting with what they can do
atomic bane
At least it was kind of challenging. Not hollow "1337" dive.
fringe kettle
this weeks EDD is probably the easiest yet
knotty rampart
@fringe kettle probably.......
visual flower
Lethal being on stage 1 instead of 2, and not on that molten hellhole, makes a world of difference
knotty rampart
yes for sure. can you give me the lowdown @visual flower
visual flower
2 and 3 are both pretty short, its just getting a team of randos past 1 thats the hardest
No real big surprises I think other than standard bulks
knotty rampart
it’s good that ones the hardest so you have all the ammo and whatnot instead of running low the whole time
visual flower
And you dont have to redo so much each time in case of failure
Its also not a salvage, other than the black box, so thats easier than last week in cobmo with lethal too
visual flower
Yeah. I don't know if Lethal On stage 2 was harder than no shield the week before that, but it was definitely less fun imo
knotty rampart
yeah it was kind of a shitshow. i hope in the future you can choose between handcrafted or random so you can get ones designed for pain or for fun
hollow flower
They aren’t handcrafted
visual flower
They're just static seeds, making them full random would take a lot of out of it I think
Although I would like to be able to replay past ones even if theres no reward
hollow flower
They’re randomized every week. Not even tested beforehand :P
knotty rampart
yeah i know read it again i was saying i hope they make it an option to play a handcrafted one
blissful lantern
well that was the easiest EDD ever
mossy jay
hi friends
I did the deep dive cos i just got a promotion
Wasnt too bad
the uplink was in the middle of a tight cave in one of them and there was an exploder so i used up like all of my respawns iron will tanking it
west nest
does driller have any hard counters against macteras
the subata doesn't do it for me if i am being aimed at by 7 other macteras behind me while trying to take one out
sturdy oracle
Freeze em or clap em with the mactera-specced subata
No class has a way of hitting a bunch of mactera + not getting hit by them except maybe proximity-specced engie PGL.
As driller i alter terrain to get the advantage on mactera
fringe kettle
gunner shield and secondary?
unique spoke
flamethrower does bonus damage to mactera too.
otherwise just keep sidestepping, take cover where possible, and aim with the subata
sturdy oracle
If u get into gunner shield but have a buddy be bait outside of the shield then at least some of the mactera will aggro on him and stay still
hushed ether
When i see a group of mactera i use charged shot with plasma gun should be near half of their life if it explode on the group
But i don't think that help a lot, the best still dodging attack when it's possible
maiden kite
ice grenade as scout
insta kills the whole group of mactera in a very generous aoe
im pretty sure the driller really struggles with mactera no matter the loadout
hushed ether
yes it's pretty annoying to deal with mactera as driler
doable but not as convenient as ice grenade indeed
honest atlas
i had an egg spawn in the air in the regular deep dive, how do i get it?
i cant pick it up
hollow flower
Platforms. Resupplies hitting it
hollow flower
Just order resupplies to knock it down
hushed ether
Ressuply
honest atlas
alright
frail zodiac
c4 also works
honest atlas
bosco cannot
frail zodiac
you need to destroy the invisible walls
honest atlas
yeah
knotty rampart
anyone who can join me?
worthy bronze
Shoot a missile at it
thorny geyser
There we go, EDD cleared for the first time.
Took only first time, good team even though we fumbled and fucked up.
Had to take out maybe 3 swarms because we got lost on egg hunt lol.
hollow flower
Congrats! 🎉
thorny geyser
Thank you. :3
I gotta say, I'm really starting to like BC with high voltage OC.
You can electrocute four mactera at the same time for easy targeting with conductive bullet stubby and teammates.
18 racks of ammo is also fairly spammable against swarms.
reef cypress
So was it just me or did each stage of the EDD have a Huuli Hoarder?
reef cypress
Both the first stage and last one had one right at the start and the second had one right by the black box
thorny geyser
a whole bunch of croppa never hurts
reef cypress
Nope, not at all, though I'd prefer some Jadiz
Or an error cube. haven't seen one in AGES
spiral tapir
I just shoot macera with the deepcore launcher
Actually pretty easy to hit them with it since they don't dodge if your reticle is above them
And shot drop takes care of the rest
pliant plaza
is the normal deep dive this week bugged? we got a floating egg
pliant plaza
does that work??
willow tulip
yes
glacial igloo
why do deep dives seem like the most buggy part of the game lol
i've never seen a floating egg anywhere else
and two weeks ago the escape pod would spawn in the air sometimes with the ramp fully in the air which I've never seen anywhere else either
glacial igloo
escape pod being fully in the air has to be pretty rare too
and like these two things have happened in two recent deep dives so far
it's just weird like if it's fully random that's pretty bad luck
hollow flower
Yea funny how rng does that
glacial igloo
like it would make a lot of sense to check the map for your biggest deal event that's up all week
but i guess they... don't?
just odd
maybe you don't catch air pods with a cursory static map check but you'd catch the egg thing
feral scarab
barely reachable mine heads and drop pods have always been a thing in sandblasted
never seen a floating egg though, sometimes they'd spawn outside any organic material but then they drop to the ground
glacial igloo
but like you get the point right? that these aren't common bugs and it's weird that they're very common in deep dives?
feral atlas
floating and wtf escape pot spots are common enough
I've seen a ton of meme spots
nothing the sandblast EDDs have thrown at me in terms of drop pod landing zones has beaten this one yet
glacial igloo
okay lets start over
feral scarab
yeah, I'd assume the two goal types both try to generate terrain that suits them and end up sabotaging each other at times
although it makes the caves usually more interesting than your typical mission, at least
glacial igloo
Why do deep dives have all these incredibly common bugs? If I was making a flagship event that would stay up for 1 week I'd check it to remove these incredibly common bugs that happen all the time instead of just... not. It's weird that the devs aren't at least doing a cursory check of these maps for these incredibly common bugs
feral atlas
they're not curated
they're randomly generated seeds, but they are static and shared
glacial igloo
yeah that's the question, why not check it at least once?
And if it's got a weird bug like a floating egg
why not just... reroll it
like it's fine having a weird bug in a random game
but for this fixed event that's going to stay up for a whole week
why not... at least... idk take a look at it before you push it out?
feral atlas
to be fair, at least this wasn't released on a friday
it'll likely have some sort of fix tomorrow
thorny geyser
floating egg was pretty minor bug though
Now EDD is done as engie and scout
Still need to do them as gunner and driller.
wraith shard
For those that have the bugged egg on stage-2 of the Deep dive you can do this or use explosives... https://streamable.com/dftft
velvet oak
you try already to shoot the hook to the roof and catch the egg in mid air?
jaunty river
We had that in our run of the DD. Digger C4'd it.
I think I'm gonna give the EDD one more shot. And bring pheromone nades this time. I know they're OP, I just use IFDs because I'm stubborn and actually kinda like the bonus damage the Zhukov's get
wind nest
Just use the items that are there for you 🥔 👍
meager topaz
yea
bunkering in the beacon on stage 2 helped us a lot
outside of that stage 3 is super ez
vocal bronze
PSA: you can shoot the floating egg with an engie platform to knock it down
lavish spindle
I did what everyone said and c4'd it, but our scout didn't move away even though I waited a full 10 seconds
I picked up the egg and the scout
wind nest
Bunker saves getting into a wipe
hollow iris
I used a PGL on it
timber blade
Had a Gunner/Scout combo, didn't think to drop a Resupply on it :(
blissful matrix
I hate the Haunted Cave mutator. It slows the game down so much
lavish spindle
Only if you kite it weird
strange helm
ehhh i prefer it over low o2
blissful matrix
exploders don't really
neither do mactera
nor leech plague
nor parasites
they don't interrupt the flow of gameplay
strange helm
ill give you parasites
blissful matrix
my parasites will eat your parasites
strange helm
but leeches at least make me cautious before i enter a large cavern
and wait for scooty man
blissful matrix
i do want a way to "kill" the horror, so it despawns for a while
strange helm
or if cyro shit could freeze it for a while
blissful matrix
well that would really mean you can only solo as 2 of the classes
strange helm
maybe make it afraid of flares?
or hitting it with a flare could stun it or sumthin
thick ridge
neurotoxin does a pretty decent job of slowing it for a while
stubby renders it irrelevant esp if you're using the electric build
hollow iris
Is the mactera plague on EDD 2 glitched?It literally doesnt stop sending waves
normal bobcat
thats just how mactera be nowadays
unique spoke
they'll come every minute on average. gotta get your hustle on
hollow iris
God Molly is so slow anymore
jaunty river
Managed to do the DD and first two stages of the EDD. Got Carpet Bomber out of EDD/2, so I'm happy with that. I can survive without one extra cosmetic this week
In fact, I think both of my DD OCs were for gunner. I got the ricochet mod for his revolver too
verbal wagon
I have not logged on today, how good/bad are the DD's this rotation?
spare delta
Easy
hallow estuary
DD's easy, has a bugged egg spawn on mission 2 so bring an explosive or something
havent done EDD yet
jaunty river
DD's pretty easy. Haunted Cave on one of the stages is annoying but workable, otherwise generally unremarkable.
EDD is a headache, but probably more annoying than actually hard in general if you've got a fully-coordinated group. Lethal Enemies on Stage 1, Mactera Plague on 2.
Forgot what was on Stage 3
thick ridge
o2 PE
hallow estuary
sounds awful
jaunty river
Oh man, that one's the worst. At least you can shoot the former two
thick ridge
it being on stage 3's actually good
you don't need to worry about rationing nitra, just go nuts on the supply pods everywhere
thick ridge
true theyre annoying
jaunty river
They're second only to Haunted Cave in being obnoxious
My team insisted on bunkering every stage.
It worked out eventually, I guess
Sure wasn't all that fun
That said
It was better than dealing with 20 goddamn Mactera Spawn hovering and darting everywhere around you while you bunny hop trying to evade their stupid fast projectiles
And that isn't hyperbole
They spawned around 20 at a time multiple times
ripe dust
Does proximity trigger on the grenade launcher mean that the further the projective launches the more damage it does up to 100% (double) or does it mean 0-100% therefore if it goes 50% do i only do 50% damage?
spare delta
Bonus damage
thick ridge
proximity trigger's pretty buggy, I don't recommend relying on it at all
whether it works at all is still pretty heavily debated
visual flower
Its kind of bugged right now, it will trigger before it's actually in explosion range depending on upgrades
You can test this by shooting at a spitballer, seeing the nade explode, and the baller not wakin' up :v
latent hamlet
visual flower
YES
outer pasture
engi plats
harsh steppe
bosco rocket?
hoary gust
its cryo -_-
hollow gate
make it so a supply pod crosses it as it drops
harsh steppe
... or hope for a lucky bulk?
hollow gate
That map has the ghost bulk, that you can use
inner void
we got a random bulk on the first EDD level, didn't happen on my first attempt
Seems like bulks are randomized to the seed too, but more random than the other enemies if that makes sense
harsh steppe
Stuff might have changed a wee bit with the new Halloween hotfix.
worldly nimbus
the floating egg in the regular deep dive is fixed.
upper lodge
harsh steppe
it was broken? And deep dive related?
visual flower
Probably gonna have to be a little more specific
fringe plover
When pressing down your mouse to fire, it doesn't shoot out the grappling hook, yet you get a cool down
Which has caused me and a bunch of others to just fall to our death when making leaps
spare delta
Sounds like a bad mouse to me
fringe plover
it's not, trust me
visual flower
Are you host when it happens? I was scoutin all last night and didnt really notice any issues
fringe plover
Doesn't matter gamemode for me
nocturne dust
I think I know what you mean, happens to me sometimes when you're barely in range I think
fringe plover
Happened to me well within reach buuut getting pretty off topic for DDD
wraith shard
how's the new DDs?
manic hedge
did they change the EDD stage 1? the black box is at spawn instead of in the far room with small ledge
visual flower
Could be they got minor changes due to the hotfix
I think @harsh steppe mentioned something like that
unique spoke
@fringe plover
When you fire grapple there is a 0.4s delay before the hook actually leaves the pistol, plus whatever travel time before it hits the surface you aimed at.
If you release the mouse, or land, at any point before the grapple hits the surface, it will fail and the cooldown will trigger regardless.
grapple behavior has remained consistent for some time, so, if it's not the above, your mouse is bad.
fringe plover
Yeah it's not that
Standing completely still, pointing at something well within reach, click, misfires
Tried it with like 10 mice at this point
And on multiple systems
Other people are also claiming they're having this issue since U25
unique spoke
youre gonna have to get some video or something. too many people are reporting no issues with grapple.
fringe plover
any good way to record for hours or something?
I can't get the issue to happen on demand
It's just random
visual flower
Shadowplay if you're on nvidia
unique spoke
OBS is free and you can eirher record or set up replay buffer to retroactively record the last X Seconds.
dark lark
ping me if you wanna do deep dives. I've already completed this weeks EDD but I'll happily help my fellow dwarves.
fringe plover
Anyone know what uh buttons to press nto open up the Nvidia overlay thing?
I can't find it for Nordic keyboards
visual flower
idk what the default keys are, i rebind them as soon as I install it
harsh steppe
Alt-Z
tawdry halo
Is that the egg stage?
manic hedge
yes where loke 25 mactera snipers and a breeeder and grabbers and bombers roll out the welcome mat for you
let us get out of the pod and take a breather ffs
tawdry halo
Egg hunts always have chaotic starts. Im not surprised
thorny geyser
second stage was quite a target practice but quite doable without lucking out
thorny geyser
yeah
we had inferno cutter engineer who took out several mactera with every single shot, it worked great
visual flower
A solid scout or bulldog gunner or fire PGL also work wonders. I've only seen it gone to hell if people ignore the flyers too long until there's 15+ of them and then things get hairy
manic hedge
i have yet to see a sing;le engineer use seconday on those. all of them have used shotgun or smg or banged the turret
fast veldt
You know when that one party member instantly presses the button on the mule once it's available when you're at the bottom of the pit at the black box?
visual flower
An engineer shotty to the weakspot should one shot mactera spawn, but if there's more than 4 or 5 the fire pgl comes out