EDD was a close one, literally felt like Doomguy at the end...
#deep-dive-discussion
wraith shard
midnight spindle
Sandblasted corridor again
wraith shard
That was pretty easy though.
stark slate
managed this week's EDD without a bunker at any point
shields are def the way to go
fast veldt
Found this on the DD Stage 2 https://gfycat.com/unlawfulshyhornbill
thorny geyser
923 kills, noice
thorny geyser
I had 760 as engie in first try.
fierce jacinth
nice c:
thorny geyser
Plasma burster and PGL really do a number on them.
hollow pawn
REEEEEE goddamn enemies moved through terrain in our bunker
it was purest form of fuckery
cerulean magnet
Quality bunker construction is an art and a science
cerulean magnet
Okay
unique spoke
call down like four resupply pods and just build a house on the cliff
latent pelican
I got grabbed thru the wall of our bunker last night lol
south flower
5th attempt, barely made it past the fuel cells ;;
latent pelican
dropped to my death
unique spoke
question:
does the fuelpod drop in the same place every time on DDs?
if so, could you manipulate its drop point if you were to destroy the terrain it would fall on in advance of the beacon showing up?
Like carving away enough of the cliff that the beacon would appear at a lower point, or just re-generate a new landing spot entirely?
south flower
In my experiences, they don't always drop the same spot
unique spoke
Carving away the cliff before the beacon shows up, that is.
south flower
that last run the fuel cell dropped below the drop pod
last time it was a few meters from the uplink on the same surface.
rotund ivy
only realistic way to manipulate the drop is to occupy the spots you dont want it to drop
unique spoke
I guess you could maybe make a policy of just prematurely drilling/platforming ANY undesirable potential fuel cell location, in advance of activating the uplink, within... what, 15m of the drop pod? :V
thorny geyser
leeeeeroooooooy jenkiiiins
barren steppe
Stage 2 is just plain unfun compared to the other stages
which are also unfun, because Magma Core
cerulean magnet
Make magma core great again
hushed ether
Magma core is a bit of pain because hot floor but engie can still put some platform to patch cracks and stuff
wraith shard
Anybody up for EDD? I still need to find a team lmao
fringe kettle
Sure, I'll do it again. Give me about 15 minutes for my laundry to finish up.
rotund ivy
i can join, no mic though
rotund ivy
alright ping me when ready
fringe kettle
laundry is done, ready whenever
kindred ferry
@rotund ivy
rotund ivy
are you running? 🤔
rotund ivy
alright
split marten
shoutout to this week's EDD
every single other EDD has been fairly easy and i can't relate to all the complaints, but i really felt it on stage 2 this week
haz 5 salvage and lethal enemies, that's the true haz 5 difficulty
oh right and magma core ontop of it all
wraith shard
Just wait till that mutation rolls on the third stage of the deep dive
None of us know true pain until lethal enemies is on hz 5.5
sterile topaz
haz 5.5 lethal enemies salvage
sterile topaz
volatile guts lethal enemies haz 5.5 magma core salvage
start mission
die before the drop pod lands
split marten
that’s the game putting you out of your misery to save your sanity
graceful bramble
lvl 67 Engi (silver) looking for a decent group to do EDD with... can't get past 2nd stage
twilit tulip
So many SWARMERS
I shoulda brought my carpet bomber autocannon instead of my minigun, got wiped at the end of the 2nd mission in the EDD
waxen dawn
The group I did it with today ran out of nitra on mission 3 and just got overwhelmed.
split marten
ouch
latent pelican
I definitely finished with zero pistol ammo
and like one magazine spare for the autocannon lol
twilit tulip
We didn't bring an engi and we spent like 30 mins on the first mission
hollow pawn
omg we got to stage 3
amber sail
Tell me, did anyone else get a BET-C right beside the drop pod at the start of stage 3?
latent pelican
yeah
hollow pawn
hopefully we dont die
split marten
from what i remember we only passed stage 2 by the skin of our teeth
waxen dawn
We had no BET-C. That would have been nice.
split marten
one scout grappling around with an entire swarm and a half chasing him around while he’s at low hp
@quartz quest nice clutch bitch
twilit tulip
I'm pretty sure that BET-C is a fixed spawn since the maps are seeded?
quartz quest
@split marten fuck you
split marten
i haven’t seen a bet-c there
split marten
out of sight out of mind
twilit tulip
bet-C is pretty garbo at killing anyways
split marten
bet-c manages to push me off more cliffs than molly
waxen dawn
BET-C is OK for dealing with little craps.
Just to thin the numbers a little bit.
I found her pretty useful on last week's EDD mission 3.
wraith shard
I think bet-c is like hoarder. There is a small chance it will spawn in a deep dive
amber sail
Oh yeah we got hoarder twice out of the 7 runs
hollow pawn
are you fucking serious......lost connection on stage 3
seriosuly fuck this bullshit
exotic cedar
I thought Bet-C’s spawn was based on how many people are in the dive
I had a Bet-C solo for instance
clever crest
fuck ye we did EDD.
had to dig THREE different bunkers near the pod tho.
primary flat under the uplink, narrow corner descending one near the fuel, and the emergency one, earthquake-proof, in the back wall.
because fuck lethal haz5 with a rake otherwise.
wraith shard
All I know is bet-c has a 6% to spawn in hz 2 and above
No idea if the chances increase per hz lvl after 2. No idea if party size increases or decreases spawn rate
exotic cedar
I kinda think she’s fixed with 2 people or less on stage 3, just a guess though
I remember someone talking about that being the case on a previous DD
rotund ivy
the deep dive seeds have predetermined spawns that are dependent on the player count, unless modified by the hazard level. Meaning if a seed for 2 people says there is a bet-c, there will always be a bet c
exotic cedar
Si
stiff idol
This weeks second stage E.D.D may induce deja vu
wraith shard
Ahhhhhh ok, makes sense
sterile topaz
hoarders would have spawned in the same places and walked around differently so you might miss them in subsequent attempts
stiff idol
best rng is when breeder comes to you instead of you trying find the sucker
glacial igloo
Why do different amounts of bulk detonators spawn sometimes at the same times? Are monster spawns not set? But Betsy is created as part of the map?
rotund ivy
predetermined spawns are dependent on the map seed (whatever the seed says that should be on the map, will spawn on the map when you enter it). It does not dictate rng spawns
the bulk spawns are rng
wraith shard
Bulk dets are in the normal spawn pool. Hoarders and bet-c are unique spawns
glacial igloo
Anything else in that category?
frail zodiac
dreadnaught on PE
exotic cedar
Spitball infectors, cave leeches are tied to map seed too
hollow iris
EDD is such nonsense this week
exotic cedar
Solo cheese with pheremones if you don’t wanna bother
rotund ivy
it is also possible to have a rng bet c spawn
glacial igloo
what a weird way to do it
twilit tulip
you thought last week was hard, how about sum Haz 5 Lethal Enemies Defense on Magma Zone?
thorny geyser
dont forget broken ass terrain which is hard to defend
midnight birch
EDD's makes my face hurt.
tardy pier
midnight birch
true
amber lance
This weeks EDD was harder for me than last weeks
midnight birch
really need to figure what kind mods i shuold use for engi's shotty or SMG
amber lance
I 3manned last weeks and this week took about 4-5 tries
midnight birch
if i really want to start playing engi
amber lance
I just got this overclock that gives me a LOT more ammo/less recoil, but lowers my damage by like 2
hollow iris
I'm honestly gonna stop playing if the game's gonna keep going like this
Its just wasting my time.
hollow pawn
i keep getting grouped with idiots
wraith shard
solo it
bitter garnet
Man this EDD sure is easier compared to last week, its just mildly annoying that's it.
thorny geyser
@midnight birch I ran full taser for Stubby.
cerulean magnet
These difficult challenges are a lot of fun
midnight birch
@thorny geyser i'll keep in mind
woeful violet
Do you get the same # of bulk dets for the same deep dives in different runs?
woeful violet
Ok
woeful violet
Is it common to get a haunted bulk det
bitter garnet
We only got one haunted on deep dive if I remember right
So again, RNG on the map anomalies
woeful violet
The regular one
midnight birch
second stage seems to be always a true ballsqueezer.
bitter garnet
Ah yeah the second stage of this EDD is the worst of the three.
woeful violet
That was my first time with a haunted cave modifier and having a ghost bulk det I couldn’t kill was annoying
thorny geyser
@hollow iris What's the probs,yo?
thorny geyser
Second stage was pain mostly because terrain was broken as hell.
woeful violet
I mean I made it out
bitter garnet
And make that guy not get close to the rest, thats all
midnight birch
i take spoopy bulkster over no shields or lethal bugs
thorny geyser
Other than defense, it wasnt hard.
bitter garnet
What Nahtu said
woeful violet
I was playing by myself
bitter garnet
I'd take haunted over Shield disruption, Lethal bugs, Mactera Plague on EDD
Easiest +30% Reward increase in the game
Only annoying in PE but still, the bait shouldnt be with the rest and thats it
stark slate
I guess idk that one
thorny geyser
Parasites + golden bugs 
bitter garnet
Damn right, we are rich
wraith shard
I believe parasites are 30%
bitter garnet
well then
devout acorn
parasites are 30% hate, 10% bile, 60% salt
thorny geyser
i like parasite mutator
devout acorn
I wish turrets would shoot the parasites properly
Or was it bosco that didn't target them?
thorny geyser
turrets dont target them properly
rotund ivy
parasites should be 15%
devout acorn
maybe they saw what the parasites did to BET-C and didn't want any trouble
thorny geyser
at the start?
Dont enter the big cave until first wave is over
stay in tunnel
then rush minimules and take your time with egg swarm
hushed ether
Or build one bunker then uncover eggs, everyone in bunker, scout goes for egg
bitter garnet
Second stage tips: Pheromones, proper use of repellent platforms, mines, shields, a holy symbol.
stark slate
and lots of bandaids
hushed ether
the most important is and will stay team work and cohesion
bitter garnet
You may want a 4 man party with Iron Will as well
I may have done EDD on the first try, but the second stage got us all killed except one
Just that Iron Will made us not look at explosions while walking away.
hushed ether
I failed on 3rd stage on my first try
bitter garnet
We died at the door, scout got in. Happy end.
hushed ether
On a run got 747 kill after second stage, (twice as much as driller, and twice as much as gunner) they still failed
thorny geyser
gunner, driller and engie just suicide bombed the most of the swarm, scout got inside the pod
everything was well
hushed ether
Sometimes when games doesn't want , it doesn't want
I even still see some scout gold rank forgetting using their flare gun
And i can't figure out why people like to do things in the dark even during swarm
thorny geyser
maybe they just eat their carrots
hushed ether
Well i though lighting cave was smthg basic for scout
versed willow
Pfft.
stark slate
hahahahaha
versed willow
That is only acquired after 100 in-mission hours as Scout.
stark slate
we all wish buddy
hushed ether
a gold ranked one that forget it? how to explain then?
wraith shard
Mental lag
hollow pawn
am i cursed or something?
mighty hawk
same xD
hollow pawn
2 bulks on stage 3 dread fight?
stark slate
you mean blessed? bulks are dread killers
knotty rampart
can someone please help with edd
wanton basin
knotty rampart
@wanton basin gunner or driller. we made it to second phase
knotty rampart
oh well its fine
rotund ivy
game already start?
knotty rampart
we didnt start it since nobody joined but if you want to
rotund ivy
i've already done it so let smelly take my spot
hollow pawn
experienced players help
rotund ivy
unless theres space for another
rotund ivy
ping me when ready
rotund ivy
alright send an inv
knotty rampart
hushed ether
finally EDD is complete
bitter garnet
gz
paper meteor
wow that regular dd was easy
knotty rampart
yeah
paper meteor
the last phase of the last mission had some enemies but apart from that it felt like haz 3
knotty rampart
driller for edd anyone?
paper meteor
nah 4 randos
glacial igloo
Isn't regular dd like literally haz 3?
That's what I heard
I feel like the point of regular dd is you get to do a DD but it's chill and you're having fun and hanging out and not pooping your pants which I like is a good feature
hollow pawn
yeah its haz3ish
bitter garnet
DD is for your average player to do end game
EDD is for your veteran player to do end game
Core is for your casual player to do end game
Pretty sure it's well balanced
hollow iris
The EDD is just "rhmmm lets see...nope no fun"
thorny geyser
i had lots of fun
bitter garnet
casuals still get something, averages still get something if not all, veterans get all including pain.
hollow iris
EDD is just a timesink
hollow iris
Wait for the one round it doesnt screw you
hollow pawn
fucking yes success
waxen dawn
Tempted to try join a group in #lfg-steam but I don't wanna crappy up a probably-NA group with EU latency.
paper meteor
posted end game screen of recent edd try in gallery, 61 kos... never seen anything like it, overlapping iron will/death chain hell with occasional bug killing in between. somehow made it to stage 2
twilit tulip
just make a group yourself and specify you want people from the EU, I'm sure you're not the only one
frail zodiac
we finished this weeks EDD with 62 downs
fresh sundial
I would like to request the ability to choose a higher set difficulty for normal deep dives.
torpid burrow
Played the normal deep dive today with randoms, did pretty well until mission 3 where during the second salvage defense stage two bulk detonators showed up
They sat on the fuel cells and as a result we all died
Although we also learned that freezing bulk detonators is a good way to kill them faster
Oh and also our scout refuses to launch flares so we kept getting acid spitted from the ceiling we couldn’t see
waxen dawn
Also I'm finding repellent additive handy in this EDD. Makes funnelling stuff for PGL shots easier at least.
paper meteor
Scout seems to be in a bad place rn generally, I mean I get he´s often busy mining but the kill rates are a joke no matter who plays him
Was my most played class once but now I can barely bring myself to play him, dodging only gets you so far
glacial igloo
i mean getting the most raw kills isn't his job
waxen dawn
That's generally up to engi/gunner.
glacial igloo
i guess he's the most team dependent if you're talking about having a hard time playing solo?
but it's a team based game so I wouldn't call that a "bad place"
paper meteor
I mean that his dmg output is too low, period
torpid burrow
The scout is the support class IMO, not the engineer
glacial igloo
his targetted damage output on big things is great
his trash clearing potential is bad
waxen dawn
M1000 is still the single best high-priority killer IMO.
fringe kettle
mass killing isn't the goal of the scout
waxen dawn
Menaces, acidspitters, webspitters.
torpid burrow
In my experience the scout normally gets the least kills and ore minded, but that ore wouldn’t have been gotten without the scout
And yeah the M1000 is great for clearing ceiling bugs
glacial igloo
and like this isn't a problem because killing the big things is his job not killing loads of trash, pretty much all three other classes are good at clearing trash
but if you're soloing a lot it does get awkward
torpid burrow
Ceiling bugs, mactera, and big things are what I try to focus as the scout
glacial igloo
but solo isn't how this game is balanced
torpid burrow
Let the gunner deal with the bulk of the swarm and the driller do crowd control
paper meteor
"Menaces, acidspitters, webspitters." any class can deal with those as fast as scout, spitters = 1 or 2 shots from revolver without needing to focus and slow down, menace focused down by minigun for example.
in earlier versions scout had much higher dmg output
where I would easily score most kills as scout, reliably
he´s been nerfed to the ground compared to other classes
torpid burrow
Except in a swarm there the main threat is on the ground and actively being dealt with by the gunner and driller
frail zodiac
and engineer
frail zodiac
scout just cant clear hordes like rest of the dwarves
torpid burrow
It isn’t their job
frail zodiac
yeah
paper meteor
but when we talk edd you basically clear hordes without pause
frail zodiac
all his 'nades are for support
paper meteor
and your attention should be everywhere tbh
torpid burrow
I run my shotgun secondary as a blowthrough bug deleter for dealing with swarms
But the M1000 excels at eliminating single targets with a few shots
Instead of the gunner needing to point at a prae for 5-8 seconds to bring it down
paper meteor
praes are not even relevant enemies, they are a joke
^^
5 swarmers are more dangerous than a praet, they might actually hit you
torpid burrow
Praes exist to absorb damage while other bugs get through
paper meteor
sprint away while they do their hour long spit attack into nothing and deal with the others first
waxen dawn
Ugh. No luck this week.
hollow iris
"Seems balanced to me"
vale falcon
yeah it is
thorny geyser
🤷 Well, I've cleared three times now.
hollow iris
I've been trying for days with different teams AND solo
For some reason on solo it opens more chasms
vale falcon
rng
hollow iris
Each time I've done it solo it does way more quakes than in multi
I know, s'kind of my point
thorny geyser
waxen dawn
Ugh. I dunno how to deal with the end sequence of stage 2 as solo engi.
Kiting isn't feasible.
waxen dawn
It was attempted. I think I just timed completion poorly.
thorny geyser
liberal use of explosives
waxen dawn
Because a generic normal wave spawned within the second I finished hitting the uplink.
thorny geyser
oof
waxen dawn
I'll get to play w/ friends tomorrow, so hopefully that'll be better.
waxen dawn
Thanks. I just hope the fuel cell spawns are kind.
deft kite
what happened ?
hollow iris
Sudden assload of enemies that didnt stop spawning
Dozens of swarmers, grunts, like 15 mactera and plenty of grabbers/bombers
deft kite
sounds about right
hollow iris
On lethal.With random quakes and chasms opening under the uplink and pod
deft kite
my team decided to bunker on the second map
an exploder got through and killed all 3 of em
hollow iris
On like 3 of these losses so far I've felt it was my fault/my team's
The rest it just straight up felt like RNG
deft kite
i think
the 1st rooms is good if you have a lot of movement
a good driller will help a lot as well as a good gunner
meanwhile scout and engi should focus on nitra
i think you can get around 490 in the first one
which helps a lot for the next rounds
river turret
*split second
hollow iris
Just ramping damage up to absurd levels along with enemy number
On an awful map with chasms opening every half minute
azure zephyr
How is the regular deep dive compared to just regular missions? Something a newbie (with a fully upgraded character, no overclocks) could handle solo?
winter hornet
it varies, but some of them a really easy.
vale falcon
regular deep dives are set in difficulty between haz 3-4
if you make sure you gather enough nitra at each stage, it shouldnt be too hard
mind you its in sandblasted rn, and theres 2 salvage missions
azure zephyr
ty ty
vale falcon
theres also dreads
a few morkite objectives
my best trick is to allways keep bosco working
minor sky
This week's EDD can burn in its own corpse
vale falcon
he can get aquarqs for you while you do other stuff
crimson dome
tbh the only reason i completed it first go was because some guy insisted we bunker up on stage 2 >.>
minor sky
I enjoy a challenge, but if it means that I needs to replay the same damn thing 10 times in a row to "get it", it's not fun, it's a chore
hollow iris
^
willow tulip
My team beat stage two by cheesing under the drop pod 🤷
minor sky
Honestly, you shouldn't need to cheese to make it
willow tulip
Yeah, I did feel like a leaf lover
river turret
winter hornet
I just used Pheromones.
river turret
...which is ironically more effective than a bunker.
twilit tulip
virgin bunker vs chad open combat
winter hornet
It's also more fun
vale falcon
pheromones with anything is a 10/10
minor sky
Grenade physics are weird ... I see them pass through bugs
gusty pebble
sure fighting in the open is cooler but after getting overwhelmed and wiped for the 5th time the bunker starts to look a lot more appealing
hollow iris
Its so awful
vale falcon
bunkers are all fun and games until you realize it gives bad habits and makes you insanely vulnerable to bulks
crimson dome
it's only gonna be a habit if lethal enemies on EDD becomes a regular thing during a pod defence mission
minor sky
If everyone level of the deep dive boils down to making a bunker ... where's the flexibility? It becomes the same thing over and over
hollow iris
Lethal itself is a horrible mutator
But in an EDD
And then they buffed it this patch too
shy hazel
I feel like it should be some kind of Hyper Adrenaline mutator instead where everything takes increased damage
vale falcon
Lethal isnt fun compared to most red mutators
hollow iris
"The numbers are doubled :D"
crimson dome
O2 + Lethal enemies are definitely 2 that could use looking at
O2 is just inconvenient
Lethal enemies is just bullshit
hollow iris
I hate how none of the feedback in betas ever seems to matter
vale falcon
it does
gusty pebble
it's either kite as a solo scout or bunker as a team
otherwise odds of success drop significantly
minor sky
need more than two strats
winter hornet
weren't there teams of like 4 gunners just chain shielding?
gusty pebble
guess there's that too
minor sky
Sounds like you could do that
winter hornet
so there is 3 strats
gusty pebble
can't do a team EDD without a gunner
minor sky
Guess the new saying should be "Cheese or Death"
gusty pebble
or 3 gunners
burnt oasis
It's possible to win without cheese.
gusty pebble
possible yeah
takes a lot more skill and coordination though
burnt oasis
But the alternative is pissing away 30 minutes for no reward for failure
winter hornet
Yeah, give me the overclocks
burnt oasis
I'm talking edd stage 2
gusty pebble
just want to complete the EDD so I can get an underwhelming OC for weapons I don't use
river turret
Balance and feedback is definitely similar to "The Tortoise and
the Hare"; slow but constant tweaks and changes. Annoying when you feel obvious things need to be changed immediately, but (hopefully) better in the long run.
||Fuck random slows.||
minor sky
Too much risk (time) not enough reward (a forge item that might not be worth it)
burnt oasis
In which lethal enemies magma core on a salvage defende
hollow iris
So much RNG.Even some OCs are just RNG now
hollow iris
Can't wait to lose out on time-limited rewards
But then you'll probly just get a garbage OC anyway
deft kite
i think the biggest danger in the second zone is people not shooting larva
these thing will eat half your hp if you're remotely close to it
wraith shard
Yeah just walk up to them and melee them lmao
still temple
wait wut
fringe kettle
the parasites
hollow iris
The maggots
hollow iris
Jesus christ
fringe kettle
really they're nothing compared to stage 2. If you complete stage 2 then you're almost guaranteed to complete stage 3.
thorny geyser
Stage 3 is relaxed cakewalk in comparison to stage 2.
amber sail
Watch out for (possible) BET-C right in front of pod.
Apparently two-man teams are more likely to get her.
hollow iris
Well that sucks, I was advised to duo
amber sail
It's been my go-to for every week, but this week seemed harder in a duo team.
But our 4-mans never made it, so I had to struggle with duo until we cracked stage 2.
hollow iris
Care to try to help?;~;
thorny geyser
First stage is pretty easy too, just rush the aquarq before killing the dreadnought. No dillydally, no idling. Always be collecting aquarq or nitra.
Second stage is a pain, but ammo is not an issue. Spend bullets, not blood.
Even hanging from zipline to nowhere can save you from hits.
still temple
swarmers are a pain from the two attempts i've done, thinking of swapping vamp for anything else, cus no way i'm getting back up in stage 2 if i get swarmed
hollow iris
Vamp doesnt help much cuz its just 5HP and it'll turn off IW
still temple
yep
hollow iris
Mineral capacity is nice tho
still temple
also my attempts had the most melee happy team i've ever been with, had to stop shooting so many times just so i wouldn't teamkill
thorny geyser
Swarmer and mactera are the worst. I recommend incendiary grenades for gunner to kill them as painlessly as possible.
Mactera must die, so revolver is good.
vale falcon
Brt is great at both, more ammo shot = more swarmers hit
still temple
what bulldog build one shots them on haz5?
hollow iris
Elephant rounds + hollowpoint prolly
still temple
mactera not swarmers
hollow iris
Spawn, anyway
thorny geyser
I use five shooter with hollowpoint.
still temple
isn't elephant rounds a OC, or is that a mod?
vale falcon
You can go hollowpoint and the T5-1 more for quick mactera kills
hollow iris
Elephant rounds is an OC.And EDD is uh, BS this time
fringe kettle
stage 2 is brutal and it's likely you'll fail yuor first attempt
hollow iris
Stage 2 is lethal enemies on magma core and there's dozens of em at the start alone
thorny geyser
@tender axle second stage, lethal enemies, broken terrain, take it easy
hollow iris
And the terrain is god awful
tender axle
lethal enemies salvage?
hollow iris
Yup
thorny geyser
Yes.
tender axle
that's just gross
hollow iris
Mmhm
thorny geyser
Its Hard, but doable.
tender axle
what about third stage?
still temple
so eat the wave after the first room and get the mules/eggs one by one?
hollow iris
I'll let you know if I ever get to it
thorny geyser
Cakewalk compare to second stage. 2 dread and 150 morkite.
@still temple rush mules, careful with eggs
tender axle
k thanks for da tips
still temple
mules don't trigger waves? i thought someone said they did
vale falcon
Only eggs trigger waves
vale falcon
Which can make egg hunts some of the hardest missions
thorny geyser
But watch the terrain, its horrible all over the map.
hollow iris
Aquarq do not trigger waves either
thorny geyser
Safe zips help a lot.
vale falcon
Yep
hollow iris
I want to like micro flechettes but its SUCH a damage loss
I'd hoped it turned Brt into a mini shotgun TBH
vale falcon
Get max firerate and ammo + the more that increases the damage if all 3 shots hits and tadaaa
hollow iris
Firerate?
vale falcon
Firerate
hollow iris
On brt?
thorny geyser
Faster bursts
vale falcon
Shorter delay between bursts
vale falcon
Then you would have a slightly weaker brt with way more ammo
hollow iris
Also it bugs me that the ammo increase is flat but the damage reduction is multiplicative
still obsidian
lol got kicked from a EDD because I didn't get an 11th aquarq
thorny geyser
Wow, that's horseshit.
still obsidian
I'd understand if I did something that fucked our run up but I'm really not understanding the logic there xD
vale falcon
There’s literally no benefit of getting the last ones
still obsidian
Yeah that's what I thought, he cracked the shits over the mic about it and everything, I thought he was being sarcastic
thorny geyser
Not even most fanatical dirt diggers pull that shit.
hollow iris
Its true, I dont
river turret
Well, 25xp but still basically worthless in the grand scheme.
still obsidian
Well I guess I'm just thankful he isn't suing me over the loss of exp
river turret
One credit per XP lost; you may never recover from such a steep cost...
hollow iris
Hollowpoint on brt isnt workin much
vale falcon
It’s great for macteras
thorny geyser
@river turret 1 aquarq is 25xp? Alright, so its something to do if all else is dug... I am a dirt digger after all.
vale falcon
25 xp + the multipliers 👀
river turret
Even at 25xp vs 1xp, it's still not really worth going out of your way for, but if there's extra sitting around the minehead, sure go nuts and collect whatever you can.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
thorny geyser
Theres normally a few extra aquarq laying near the minehead, if we are not drowning in chitin, why not
hollow iris
12th EDD wipe
Chasm opened under supply pod while I was refilling
Couldnt heal and died
tender axle
DansGame
thorny geyser
Youve had 18-karat streak of bad luck
warm fog
I think I should start a tally of EDDs lost because of Cluster Grenades
hollow iris
Aaand stage 2 done, and I got...Inferno for Breach Cutter.
I knew it'd be shit but wow
versed willow
Extra shit.
still temple
eh i like that one. makes spitballs extra spicy
warm knoll
are you doing it solo
still obsidian
I just completed it solo; I highly recommend!
warm knoll
what class did you play
still obsidian
Scout
warm knoll
is that the meta
still obsidian
The pheromone grenades are pretty handy for the second stage
warm knoll
solo scout
still obsidian
I don't think there is a meta but whatever works, I mean there was a guy here who did it solo with gunner in 30 minutes
Solo scout took me 1hr10mins which is awful, but it is done lol
warm knoll
i failed 4 times solo as driller then played a random 4 man and beat it first time
still obsidian
Nice, yeah if you can get a team that isn't pure greenbeards that makes a massive difference too
warm knoll
yea there was a level 100, 60, and 400
thick ridge
How difficult is this week’s edd
wind nest
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363074556090384394/635017091702849556/unknown.png pretty easy to solo DD with a scout
wind nest
second stage was easy, there is a fair amount of open ground you can grapple out of and kite all the bugs
only thing you have to worry about is the sand sharks
tender axle
for the EDD
wind nest
Mission 2 on EDD is a pain
tender axle
normal grunts can take off your entire shield and swarmers kill you within seconds lol
wind nest
makes me appreciate O2 PE missions
strong halo
swarmers become land piranha's
lethal pilot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565850434376302613/635021532984246272/548430_20191019034518_1.png When you and the lads go ahead and pay a brief visit to the doomslayer to give him a beer.
barren steppe
Lethal Enemies on a map like Magma Core is too much
It is completely do-able, but I doubt anyone who played it actually enjoyed it
lethal pilot
Had to bunker up and make a kill hallway for the first, the second was some absolute memery I've never seen before
Our engineer build a spiral out of platforms and made them climb the spiral staircase to get us.
barren steppe
During my first successful run we got lucky with the fuel pod and array placements and could make a bunker that we completely blocked off
tender axle
they made the staircase in the air?
man, i would not want to stand on that without some safety platforms below
barren steppe
In general though I just really dislike the Lethal Enemies Mutator
lethal pilot
No, lethal is fine
barren steppe
Its basically just letting everything near one-shot you on Hazard 5
lethal pilot
the sheer quantity of swamer spawns was irregular.
barren steppe
Swarmers were really spawning a lot in this deep dive
Its a pain to deal with them on a less mobile class if you can't cheese them
glacial igloo
i don't like swarmers ever lol
lethal pilot
I personally want to put every swarmer into a hydraulic press.
And then use the resulting juice as a breakfast beverage base. It's probably full of vitamin C. Fights off mining scurvy.
viral flax
laughs in flamethrower
barren steppe
And then the Swarmer decides to magically teleport behind you
viral flax
the true use for heat radiance
viral flax
congrats
inner void
I got the EDD first try, me as an engineer, a scout and two gunners
The scout had to carry us a lot in the latter two stages, not having a driller really bit us in the ass there.
Lethal swarmers are like the rabbit from Monty Python and the only reliable AoE we had was my PGL and turret.
south flower
what's the rewards on the 3rd stage tend to be?
inner void
I'm not sure if it's set or random but I've been getting a lot of mineral pack -> weapon overclock -> cosmetic in that order.
south flower
ah yeah. Then it's the same to me.
inner void
so far the third EDD map has always been a beard
south flower
I just finally managed to get through 2nd stage and I'm greeted with hordes and a BET-C ;;
well at least the 2nd stage (weapon overclocks) is my main goal
can rest easy for now haha
inner void
Hmm, I know the map seed is static but the enemy spawns seem to vary a bit.
south flower
yes. Same for some objectives
inner void
First week's EDD always had a betsy on the second map, but when I did it solo I got betsy on the first one instead
south flower
att least the map seed is always the same rest assuredly
spiral tapir
lethal swarmer hell was an experience
but it's an experience I won't need to do again this week! unless my friend wants to get the stage 1 matrix core, in which case I'll live
also @inner void the mineral overclock cosmetic order is set, yes
inner void
We're a long ways off from depleting the drop pool but I wonder what it will do if you get all of the items from one category.
Would it give you something else or just "default" to a mineral pack or something?
Either way the machine events can't come soon enough because the current intake feels too slow.
willow salmon
I think it will just drop mineral packs
wanton island
@inner void I got a gunner's mustache for completing the 3rd EDD stage this week. So it's not always beards
dusty cedar
Does anyone know what the 3rd EDD mission is i keep getting killed on round 2
vernal belfry
elimination + morkite with parasites
vernal belfry
unless you are talking about xbox/windows store then idk
dusty cedar
nah pc/steam
vernal belfry
I did stage two with 2 gunners, helps a lot having 2 shields
dusty cedar
gotcha ill try it out. thx
astral portal
i feel like giving up on this elite, it is easier than the last weeks yet ppeoplee cant stop goofing around and ruining the whole mission
am i mieeting the wrong people or what is wrong?
iron cosmos
Dunno @astral portal same problem here lol
It's like usually one OK guy and one not so OK guy and one guy thst needs 20 hours more before he should even touch deep dives XD
But eh, normal deep dive went smooth as butter at least
And still no oc's for my gatling gun :'(
strange tulip
For a successful run I have seen between 40 minutes to an hour.
Elite deep dives take longer since there are more enemies and they are tankier.
dark rivet
guys
i need help
i want complete elite
but all the time got kicked with reason low lvl
or noob
anyone?
stray escarp
This EDD is actually pissing me off.
Stage 2 with twenty swarmer "mini hordes", two-shot macteras and non stop spawning of evrything is actually getting me salty.
Seriously swarmers are quickly becoming one of my most hated enemies in any game. They do way too much damage for those little nibles
astral portal
is there anyone who can help with the deep dive ? i have a serious issue as a teammate on my side, yet i dont wanna drop him, afriendand i have to carry him constantly and we need a third person to make this work
thorny geyser
I cant access the game rn, sorry.
@stray escarp I recommend that everyone takes anti-swarmer weapons. Incendiary grenades for gunner, flamethrower for driller, anything for engie and GK2 for scout.
stray escarp
I'm driller. Have to solo because not many players in SA.
Also, Bosco could be so much better if it priotized certain enemies. It can wipe a bunch of swarmers in seconds but nope. It rather spend one whole minute killing a praetorian I can kill in seconds but I'm too busy dealing with swarmers
dark lark
@astral portal I'm down to give a shot.
waxen dawn
What classes you need?
stray escarp
I give up.
Earthquakes, way too many swarmers, non stop wave spawning
It's been 3 hours. I'm done wasting my weekend with this.
It's so incredly frustrating to have a wave attack and then get stuck in place because of an earthquake and some macteras across the map two-shot you with no chance to evade while that also makes your supply pod fall into a pit of fire
waxen dawn
I just wanna find a decent group. It's so hard.
Also, what would you miss out if you have double gunner? Engi I'd guess due to lack of worth against Dread?
vale falcon
you can go with 2 drillers 2 gunners
waxen dawn
No scout?
vale falcon
thats up to you
wanton cloak
stray escarp
My biggest gripe isn't even the lethal enemies. It's the fact that as soon as I kill a mini wave I already hear a bunch of glyphids roaring from yet another mini wave.
Then after killing 3 or 4 mini waves in a row I get maybe 1 minute to do the objetive before this shenanigans start all over again.
Also one bad tremor at the wrong time and you go down. Sometimes you get one or two through the mission, sometimes you get all of them. The defense zone of stage 2 has like 4 fissures already
Every EDD so far wasn't too big of a deal. Maybe I would fail once or twice but this one is just stupid.
thick ridge
Thats why you bring two gunners
stray escarp
there is no one playing in SA. Either I join some game from distanc: global or do it solo
thick ridge
Preferably one brings carpet bomber AC
dark lark
I'm not the biggest fan of cheese
But if you really want to know how to beat practically anything
Ironwill as standard, take extra invulnerability time to. So when you get revived, you have more breathing room and can revvie someone else if they are super close.
For class loadout, you can take 2 gunners, 1 scout 1 gunner, or 2 scouts. I would recommend 1 scout 1 gunner personally.
Scout's pretty much must take pheromones. Gunner, take longer shield duration. When it comes to anything tricky like the second part of the salvage lethal enemies, just throw down a shield, when it ends, pheromones, when that ends shield etc.
Hard AoE is also very important, Engineer's PGL can just nuke stuff before it becomes a massive problem like stage2 again with all the swamers.
Engineer's LURE is also still very good, even if you have to use more than 1 it can be a lifesaver. Although proximity is pretty good to.
As for actual strats there's always the option of saving nitra between missions and then spamming it down when you are in trouble. Like using 4 resupplies on that one stage thats giving you trouble is totally valid.
thorny geyser
oh yeah, the last part
spend bullets, not blood
you need shield? resupply
there is no shame in "wasting" the resupply if you really only need one thing from it but it helps you do the objective
worthy rock
Any tips for this weeks' EDD? It's an abolsute nightmare for me and my friends - 9 tries and we still can't get past second mission
stray escarp
I gave up.
Soloed prety much all EDD so far. This one broke me. I'm actually salty.
thorny geyser
@worthy rock Dont enter the big chamber until first wave is killed.
Rush mules, take time with eggs.
Dont mind spending nitra for resupplies, there's plenty.
worthy rock
Tried that too, still can't survive a thing. Waves are abnormaly big and the "lethal enemies" modifiers makes even swarmlings kill us in 2 seconds
thorny geyser
swarmers and mactera are the biggest threats imo
flamethrower and incendiary grenades kill them painlessly
waxen dawn
I'm having decent success with the thunderhead but I'm solo.
stray escarp
My supply pods keep falling into fissures of hell's fire because I get a tremor every 3 minutes
thorny geyser
just resupply on top of platforms if possible
stray escarp
Tomorrow when I'm calmed down I'll try again with engi. Swarmers? Screw it. Nuke them with the grenade launcher.
thorny geyser
yeah
stray escarp
i'm so pissed at those little shits. 10-15 damage from a swarmer is ridiculous
thorny geyser
dont feel bad killing a horde of them with grenade launcher
they are death
and they deserve death
I've used PGL with compact grenades and plasma bursters
See that swarm? Fuck that noise, put some plasma and explosive death their way.
gemini turrets also work fine
stray escarp
yeah I'm gonna change my GL build in my next attempt.
I already tried and failed 4 times today. 3 hours for 120 croppa
thorny geyser
they cover more ground, but you gotta be mindful of ammo
worthy rock
We tried a total of like 10-11 tries and I'm seriously mentally exhausted
stray escarp
solo ammo isn't a problem
The problem is getting stuck in plcce because of a tremor and getting sniped by mactera
2 shots dead
thorny geyser
PGL with prox, revolver, anything to take them out asap
waxen dawn
I just want to find a team. I'd have figured a weekend would bring more hosts in #lfg-steam but it's been dead as hell.
stray escarp
Most people who are very dedicated to the game probably do EDD the moment they become available.
thick ridge
Carpet Bomber is the ultimate answer to anything that isnt a bulk
thorny geyser
i did it on second day, done it now three times
waxen dawn
Still not sure if I'm better off with thunderhead or lead storm.
I do absurd damage since I do have actual factual lead storm on it.
thick ridge
Since in this specific situation whats being complained about is swarmers
I’d assume AC would do better
thorny geyser
ac is really good pick for swarmers
thick ridge
Esp with carpet bomber where the aoe is so large a single bullet straight up wipes out entire swarmer groups
thorny geyser
mactera are easily dealt with revolver
waxen dawn
Which one is carpet bomber, again?
thick ridge
You cant get more ammo efficient then 1 bullet = 1 wave
waxen dawn
I have both clean OCs for it. Using the one that improves radius and aoe damage.
thick ridge
Increased aoe dmg/radius for less direct dmg
waxen dawn
Anyway EDD now. Talk later I spose.
waxen dawn
Oh man I'd kill for that.
AC is useful enough for taking swarmers out but honestly I think I need the dread damage.
thick ridge
Its good for dread too
Thing is aoe dmg doesnt care about what direction you’re facing
You dig a tunnel and aggro dreadnought
Enter the tunnel and then immediately shield to buy time, shooting it the whole time
And just before it reaches you, you shield a 2nd time, shooting the whole time ofc
If its not dead by then, your team mates suck
waxen dawn
Just like, have the driller make a big curved tunnel to run though?
thick ridge
Yep
waxen dawn
Could work, though then I'm not the one doing damage.
thick ridge
Well doesnt need to be a driller tunnel
I just use a regular tunnel most of the time
I usually duo elimination missions with a friend who has leadstorm
He shoots from behind, I shoot from the front with AC
You make up for dealing reduced dmg by being able to deal dmg no matter where the dreadnought is facing
Aoe dmg doesnt give a shit about the front side armor
waxen dawn
I was gonna say, when my one who basically dictates what two other friends play is done playing 7 Days To Die I should have a better chance.
hard jetty
Jesus christ this deep dive
slim zenith
Yeah I've tried to solo it a few times and I always die second mission defending the fuel cells 😦 so much damage if you get overwhelmed
frail zodiac
bunker everything on edd2
wraith shard
You dont have to bunker the fuel cells on stage 2
frail zodiac
y not
wraith shard
Because that's what we did and we had no troubles
slim zenith
you mean like, dig a hole into the wall and hang out in there?
wraith shard
No, dig a hole under the map that leads directly under the point
thorny geyser
we once sealed scout under the triangulation zone and everyone else just kited and fought the bugs
humble heath
I just finished the EDD (no bunkers) with a great Team (thank you!).
I used gunner with the Auto Cannon and the Carpet Bomber overclock. That worked very well!
The reward for the last stage was the Primal Blood Skin pack for my Gunner. 
tepid quail
Had to do the second stage of EDD cowering inside closed bunkers
tepid quail
Should have seen us staying in a corner against a wall so thin the swarmers were eating our legs
Altough the moment we opened and they went into all our firepower was glorious
unique spoke
my last attempt we tried bunkers
first bunker went great
but then the fuel pod dropped onto like two pixels of a cliff and we just had no way to bunker that.
torpid burrow
The pro bunker strat for taking on dreadnoughts is to make a “racetrack bunker”
Basically a big loop made with the driller
Lead it in and seal the entrance
Half your group in front and half behind it
It will only have two ways to travel
And you just nascar around the loop shooting it
frail zodiac
cant you seal it? @unique spoke
unique spoke
nah, like where the pod landed, there would be no way to make a bunker that was actually within range of the pod zone.
i would have had to build an entire house out of platforms around it. if even that would have worked.
frail zodiac
i dont understand why you cant build a bunker that is under the fuel cells and seal it off
thick ridge
probably wasn't enough actual ground within range of the objective?
sometimes the fuel pod drops itself onto really dumb locations
wraith shard
if you have insect repellent you can use your platforms to make the bugs take specific paths
thick ridge
I've had it drop onto the tip of a crystal putting it in the middle of a room
wraith shard
I didnt record these so I can't answer that question lol
vale falcon
repellant is one of the strongest mods
tawdry halo
This is actually something I never truely used this well
This is some good information to know tbh, even for non-DD missions
vale falcon
but you need to leave a path for the bugs to use
or they will overrite the repellant and ignore it
vale falcon
yep
thick ridge
if you make the alternate path too long they'll also ignore the platforms too though
from what I can tell, repellent makes the platforms have increased distance for pathfinding
vale falcon
but if you respect those rules, you have the best source of damage
enemies closer together = more damage
thick ridge
the simplest method of using them is this one imo: https://youtu.be/RuqUXZUWi5U
just putting a U shaped line of them behind up against a wall so bugs don't flank you
glacial igloo
I asked a tester and any amount of platform in the path adds a fixed distance to the path. So stacking 2 platforms doesn't help. Also the repel extends a bit out from the platform so you can have a gap between platforms less than 2.5 meters and the repel applies as if they were touching
dark lark
@glacial igloo He used the ansel mode, alt+f2
And then recorded that mode. OBS doesn't pick up the overlay
thick ridge
ansel model?
glacial igloo
Oh didn't know it could do videos too that's cool
tawdry halo
Ansel comes with Nvidia cards nowadays doesnt it? Or am I thinking of something else
dark lark
It can't but with OBS it can. Or presumbly some other recoding software
vale falcon
tbh that looks more like an engie that cropped out his hud and weapon dont you think?
tawdry halo
Nop, you can see him standing on the fuel cells
versed willow
5 player lobby, obviously.
vale falcon
oh what the hell he is tiny
so yeah, Mushu is right then
BOSCO SKIN NEXT MONTH THO
tender axle
huh the AI OC only lowers damage by 1 instead of the 2 on the wiki
vale falcon
gk2?
wraith shard
Yeah that thing got stealth buffed
crimson dome
its spicey
a lot of people are bunkering for stage 2 from what i can see
as lethal enemies on EDD is just some straight bs
balmy python
lethal enemies spitballers hit for 90% health through full shiel
tender axle
lol, i just die whenever a spitballer hit me in that EDD
warm notch
Im here struggling with the first stage
tender axle
what's hp
bitter garnet
Last week EDD was harder than this one.
So if you finished that one, you can do this.
warm notch
Chroist
I can murder the dreadnought on my own
But then i struggle with the piled up hordes
Should i try getting all the aquarqs before the dread or the opposite?
bitter garnet
Dread always at the end
Well, no scratch taht.
The fastest the better, since PE has more spawns the longer you stay.
I said that because when I did EDD I just spedrun Aquarqs as driller and let everyone else do the dreadnaught 😂
dark lark
Nah, this EDD is harder.
bitter garnet
I still believe last week was harder, but okay.
warm notch
Im yet to find a coordinated team on xbox
dark lark
I'm curious as to why @bitter garnet
bitter garnet
xbox
Found your problem :^)
dark lark
What specific section would you say was harder?
I mean obviously for this week's lethal enemies was the sticking point. Was it the dread fight stage 2?
bitter garnet
@dark lark
Stage 3 EDD last week was harder - Map layout and spawn.
The hardest of this week is Stage 2, yes
dark lark
Stage 3 is weird, becuase while it was hard yeah, it was more to do with the bad salvage spawns we had.
dark lark
But like, I wouldn't say it was harder than lethal enemies.
bitter garnet
It was - Macteras dealt the same damage than a lethal enemy in general.
dark lark
I guess we could have gotten different fuel cell spawns though which can be a massive factor.
bitter garnet
It didnt help that Bulk detonators spawned at high rate for some reason.
dark lark
Mactera definately hit like trucks yeah, but thankfully we bursted them down pretty quickly.
Our engi was on the PGL fire rounds duty and he did a good job lol
bitter garnet
Thats what I did myself last week indeed.
The trick to this week's EDD stage 2 is, again, on the engi.
repellent platform with a bit of driller's help
Mines do not destroy terrain (thank god)
dark lark
Platform is really good yeah. But I think it comes back to the PGL again.
bitter garnet
yes, its PGL
dark lark
Aside from shield pheromones, the PGL is so good on salvage becuase it's long range AoE.
Same thign with carpet bomber. When lethal enemies, with tons of swarmers, having that hard AOE is great.
bitter garnet
I havent done it with gunner this week
and theones I ahve done it with, all had minigun
dark lark
I think you defo need a good way of dealing with swarmer. Even on solo I had like 20+ in my waves.
bitter garnet
We had flame drill boy and I played as one as well.
dark lark
^^ Explosion on kill is pretty good.
Flamethrower is nice, but PGL / Autocannon really shine for salvage becuase you can't leave thezone.
bitter garnet
Yup, our scout went M1k + Shotgun. The lad really wanted the Dreads dead.
dark lark
Although, heat radiance is fucked right now, and does realy damage. I don't think it's intentional.
vale falcon
at longer range explosion is better
also if you get deposit perk you can get that 30% damage resistance if it works
bitter garnet
Also Neurogas from driller works really well for the swarmers
dark lark
I've always thoguh that AoE, is the most important damage you can have in this game.
bitter garnet
You just have to make sure that you throw the gas where you are NOT defending
dark lark
Gas, I'm really not a big fan of lol.
vale falcon
gas blocks vision 😦
dark lark
Even if it's not ontop of you it still blocks line of sight. Good for solo possibly but for multiplayer eh
bitter garnet
I always placed it where the sentry is
Sentry tells you where to shoot
👌🏻
gunner was following it up
Gas also slows enemy movementç
vale falcon
still, the turret wont show you where the acid spitters are
bitter garnet
Scout was not defending with us
vale falcon
salvage?
bitter garnet
SCout M1k + Shotgun was out of the point
hunting all spitters and using his shotgun fro high priority
dark lark
Sometimes that's a good shout.
bitter garnet
Whenever he had trouble, he would hook back
dark lark
I actually don't think it should be scout however. Not neccesarily anyway.
bitter garnet
And the gas + mines would just get rid of whatever was following him
dark lark
If it's tons of AoE enemies, having a driller wondering around melting everything is a good idea.
bitter garnet
I tried doing that when I played as driller
dark lark
If it's large enemies then yeah sending scout out to kill things like praetorians is pretty solid.
bitter garnet
I became a handicap for the team for the first minutes. So I gave up and went back to my previous position
vale falcon
yeah, driller or any class that has a lot of aoe damage roaming outside the ring could be great
bitter garnet
I suck at driller then
dark lark
I mean like, the main thing is killing the swarmers.
bitter garnet
and jellies
dark lark
The other thing is throwing your C4. If you can't keep them off your team while roaming it might be worthwhile to go back yeah
mental topaz
they need to fix exploder from wall banging I swear. getting blow up without seeing them is getting annoying
dark lark
It all depends on the situation a bit too much.
bitter garnet
we were getting fucked really hard with lethal enemies though, only scout was able to roam
In fact, when the doors opened we all died at the door except scout
He just hooked in and stage 3 started
dark lark
Yeah. We had our own teamwipe when the earthquake happened right at the nd of salvage. Only scout could grapple away and revive
bitter garnet
We mistimed the gunner shield and iron will
😂
Almost a stupid wipe
We really forgot the 3 seconds that the door needs to open
Then Stage 3 was a walk in the park
Even stage 1 was harder than 3
velvet oak
@tender axle HP = hit points or health points basicaly your life
tender axle
wat
velvet oak
you asked what was hp
glacial igloo
Hewitt Packard
velvet oak
😋
astral portal
opened a EDD , we need some good lads to get through it
next basalt
for driller i always just use throwing axe's cause they heal the same amount for a normal pick axe hit
astral portal
man fuck it i wil ljust try to 2 man it with another friend, people in EDD dont even know what the weak point of the dreadnought is :D and i am not saying this ironically
fringe kettle
What? It's clearly just a larger praet. Just shoot it in the mouth if you can't shoot the ass. /s
astral portal
:DDD
wanton hound
LOL
astral portal
fringe kettle
I mean seriously though. You shoot the mouth and you get those sparks coming off of it. The same sparks which are shown whenever bullets don't penetrate. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together.
astral portal
seems like itthought :DDD
fallow spruce
Can i ask u guys somthing ?? its my 3rd or 4th deep dive i mean week one , is it me or EDD become much harder than before ?? did u notice it ?
vale falcon
edds generation are randomized
fallow spruce
i know but i dont feel like h4,5
fringe kettle
Yes the current EDD is harder than last week. I believe it's also the first time (don't quote me) the lethal mutation has been in an EDD mission, and on the haz 5 mission no less.
It's supposed to be hard
vale falcon
with the mutators they are harder than hazard 5 missions
bitter garnet
Map Layout and combination was harder last week.
Doesn't mean that Stage 2 of this EDD is easy
It's obviouslyh ard
fringe kettle
So far this EDD is the only one I haven't beaten first attempt.
fallow spruce
i made last 2 EDD without problem last two are fk hard as s***
bitter garnet
Engi Platform Skill Check
Thats Stage 2 more or less
You really need to make it work
fallow spruce
did u guys get clean overclocks after finish EDD ??
bitter garnet
The OC is random
vale falcon
what do you suggest
fallow spruce
well u should get like 70 % of getting clean overclock and 30% of yellow one finishing EDD
vale falcon
what about unstables
fallow spruce
and 50/50 yellow red in normal one
fringe kettle
Personally I wish there was more control over which class you got rewards for. I care about that, not so much what the reward is beyond that.
fallow spruce
well its true but i played this game like 1,2k h and its rly annoying when u make EDD and u get red random oferclock
vale falcon
unstables are awesome what do you mean
fallow spruce
maby u get some cool one i dont only shity ones
vale falcon
okay, which
vale falcon
thats a yellow and it works wonders with aggressive venting
fallow spruce
yeah...
vale falcon
yes?
the burning hell can deal with swarmers and the aggressive venting can be used fully with the faster overheat
fallow spruce
i try it dont work proply if u ask me plus its better to stick to normal build than use this overclock couse its wast
waste of time
vale falcon
I dont have exhaust
fallow spruce
u will se if u get it 🙂
vale falcon
what other OC do you have trouble with?
fallow spruce
u mean red ones ?
vale falcon
any