damn @tawdry halo has a nice time
#deep-dive-discussion
dusty cedar
tawdry halo
Oh yeah. Bit of a hassle but we did it
dusty cedar
i dont think im gonna go for it again
i am at 1:25:00
solo
i cant get a decent team
austere pond
I didn't solo any dive
dusty cedar
everytime they have 25 downs collectively after round 1
austere pond
4man we had so many bulks once
tawdry halo
Its fireball only deals 1/4th hp
dusty cedar
im guessin its better to find teams via discord rather than joining random games
austere pond
Glyphids coming into our bunker getting shredded and burned by gunners and drillers
I actually got very good teammates
On deep dive publics
tawdry halo
The one time we bunkered we nearly died
Molly bugged out in the corridor
And blocked our gunner
austere pond
Oof
tawdry halo
Luckily he was running the autocannon
austere pond
Only solution is dig deeper
tawdry halo
So splash was working
austere pond
Or shoot molly
dusty cedar
for me theyre all usually global level 14 prestige one
austere pond
It's better to ask driller to dig deeper
austere pond
Ooof
tawdry halo
So we manually dug
austere pond
Unproffesional trench warfare
tawdry halo
We called molly into the bunker. But due to her buggy AI she sat down in the corridor
And then she just refused to budge
dusty cedar
who wants to bet next will will be sand blasted again
austere pond
@dusty cedar I was getting people from gr 50 to 80
I guess it's luck of the draw or smth
They really should bump up requirements for dives
1 promotion isn't hard to do
dusty cedar
what do you think about 1 star for regs and 3 stars for EDD
it might make the games take longer to find a match
austere pond
dds are easy so 1 star is fine
tawdry halo
3 star is quite long to get if you only play for a few hours
austere pond
But EDD should have at least gr 30-40
dusty cedar
i can agree with that
austere pond
3 star on a single character isn't a good requirement since people that don't play only 1 until gold 3 will be left out
tawdry halo
The requirements for edd should be bumped up a bit yeah
dusty cedar
1 star gr 14 is pretty low for a EDD
ive had a tone of them
no shame on them but its hard as hell to work with
austere pond
Are you in NA guys?
dusty cedar
im na ya
tawdry halo
EU
austere pond
Oh, thought we could play together but I'm eu
dusty cedar
my ping is like 90 to eu
austere pond
Or like technically asia but literally 10-20 km from continental border
tawdry halo
If I wasnt working I woukd
austere pond
I have 150 to portugal 120 to spain and 90 to germany/france
I'm busy too, I don't mean rn
Ping isn't really an issue to me so
austere pond
When are you available?
austere pond
I can play a few games in like half an hour
dusty cedar
add me on discord and hmu
austere pond
Since my uni has a really bad schedule
austere pond
Actually I can't play for next 6 hours
Uni is way too far from home so I'll have stay here
2 hours of doing nothing
Nice
glacial igloo
a host specified min level is much better than 3 stars needed to do the EDD
if you as the host want a game without low level people that's fair
but don't exclude people from parts of the game entirely with arbitrary gates some people don't even go for since theres no reason to go past one promotion
what the game evidently needs is more options to decide who you play with, not more gates on who can play
limber mural
anyone wanna start a deep dive elite team? im tried of hunting for pubs.
dim drift
I have 2 others with me in my dfiscord that all do elites
I can invite you if you'd liek to be our 4th
limber mural
sure
woeful marten
are you guys EU?
frail vortex
@dim drift I wouldn't say the jump is impossible
If you're solo as the driller, just drill out a hole facing the pod a bit higher, and jump on to the platform.
People often forget that as the driller, you create your own path.
grizzled axle
I Solo'd as scout, grappling hook kept me alive
visual flower
So are dives special in that you can get enemies from ANY biome? I had a qronar shellback show up in the Glacier dive and I cant remember ever seeing those in glacier before
thorny geyser
shellbacks can be seen in glacial strata, qronar younglings are salt pits exclusive
visual flower
Ah
thorny geyser
shellbacks are definitely nastier because those acid spits hurt like hell
grizzled axle
Question, do I have to wait for new deep dives to get more matrix cores?
I'm new to the deep dive bidnus
vale falcon
yep, each week we get a new seed
you can see which missions are completed on the terminal
grizzled axle
Ah gotcha. So new deep dives in like a day it seems?
grizzled axle
Oh cool I didn't know that, thanks
dim drift
@frail vortex The jump for me was impossible.
I've got over 200 hours drilling, heh. I make the most of his mobility. That jump was literally impossible though.
I spent all 4 of Bosco's revives trying to make it and missing by a mile, falling to my death lol.
The only way the drop pod would have been accessible would have been to drill up the wall, over top of the drop pod, then down and take the massive fall to my death onto the top of the drop pod.
versed willow
That would have worked, Bosco would just get you up.
bronze crag
actually sometimes you fall through textures of ramp when you die on it
stable gate
When will i ever find the dream team
Im tired of wasting my time
Just gonna give up on getting stage 3 probably
vale falcon
ya gotta learn how to ledge hop brother
keen creek
yeah, you dont need extraordinary skill, just a solid group who can communicate well and stick together when needed
hollow flower
This weeks dive is all about comms and planning
vale falcon
And drunkenness
vapid quiver
when you accidentally shoot the dreadnaught in the closed off room during a swarm
there is no longer any hope
the egg I mean
y'all ever think if that is a newborn dreadnaught what they look like full grown?
gusty pebble
rush the egg with driller at the start
you won't regret it
failed stage 3 with 7 seconds to go on the drop pod
rich raptor
Are there drawbacks for a team member dying in a deep dive but the rest of the team makes it?
Dive, but-
gusty pebble
not really no
half the reason to have a scout is to kite away then rush the drop pod at the end
hollow flower
I mean they start off with less health but not much changes besides that
twilit tulip
if they down during the extraction timer and you can't easily revive them, don't risk the mission, they'll come back fine for the next level
bitter garnet
Honestly, if a dwarf is lagging behind while escaping in a EDD and everyone else is at the pod, it's far better that this dwarf kills itself
Waiting longer will just lower everyone elses HP and ammo for no reason but "I feel good if everyone reaches"
rotund ivy
you have 90%+ damage resistance while inside the pod
bitter garnet
You're still taking damage for free
rotund ivy
not really, its just wasting time
you can sit inside with a bulk hammering the pod
and not take damage
bitter garnet
So better for the dwarf that is lagging behind to die
Done that actually, you do take damage from the bulk
It gets more annoying with Nayakas trying to push you out
bronze crag
leave no dwarf behind
vale falcon
They left Karl behind
mighty wigeon
They left Karl behind so he could die for your sins
Don't let his sacrifice and later revival at the rock and stone hall of fame 3 days later go to waste
glacial igloo
trying to die while someone else is waiting to leave in the stage 1 sky drop pod is like the one place where iron will is a pain in the ass lol
zenith trail
You left them. You left them behind. They were eaten by glyphids and their beards won't grow another inch. Their pickaxes will never mine nitra anymore. Their spirits will always be wandering empty caves wailing and cursing you, for leaving them behind.
gusty pebble
so the escape drop pod always gets stuck in the air on stage 1? what a joke lmao
I got grabbed and carried through the floor when I was trying to zipline over to it
rotund ivy
not always, if you have your whole team occupying the upper portion of the map, it'll drop right next to the minehead
fringe silo
Going for EDD, wish me luck lads
fresh sundial
ROCK! AND! STOOOOOOOONNNNEEEE!
fringe silo
stage 2 complete with 400 nitra to go, ohhh baby
pure portal
gl with the 1000 macteras and 100 grabbers
strange tulip
the last stage is indeed not easy
bunkering or something like that is a very valid strategy
pure portal
Untill your 200IQ engie blows up everyone with a fatboy and you need to leavem
strange tulip
of course if you bunker be very careful of trawlers
strange tulip
sounds like an oddly specific complaint there laddy
something got your beard in a bunch?
pure portal
thats what happend xD
strange tulip
lol
strange tulip
gotta love gunner shields specifically for that situation though
pure portal
but I had no time to savem
strange tulip
took me close to 20 tries to find a group who could do the EDD together
2 gunner 1 driller 1 scout was the final comp
pure portal
well I did it first time with my potato friends
strange tulip
we swapped between gunner shields in the last level to eliminate mactera nonsense
pure portal
but if was before the damage buff
strange tulip
very potent for blocking projectiles
pure portal
so it was easier
strange tulip
ah that makes sense
pure portal
tried it then with friend to help
strange tulip
everything went perfect for us and it was still close lol
trawlers 2 shot people left and right
pure portal
we failed a lot of bad rng stupid mistakes took a break
strange tulip
and spawned 2-3 at a time
pure portal
and yesterday first try completed it like its nothing
idk
but only 2 of us
so no crazy ammount of enemies
strange tulip
I think 2 man is indeed much easier, but its a great way to learn the EDD
pure portal
and yea trawlers are real cancer
strange tulip
then you can do a 4man attempt once you know the layouts since they stay the same
pure portal
not bulks trawlers are the real final boss of the game
strange tulip
really though, they grab you through the floor of the minehead platform
I think that is very very not good. Also they ignore gunner shields.
Extremely nasty enemy.
pure portal
like compared to the shellback which the replace they are kinda bullshit op
they are faster half of their model is underground
deal a lot damage
can burrow so you cant hit them
and the you hit them they expose weakpoint dont work now
idk if its a bug
or feature
strange tulip
they used to be much weaker, I think its intentional but they could use some tweaking downwards
pure portal
they still expose themselves but not the weakpoint and its harder to hit it
and they even can fly sometimes with wnough speed
xd
like I saw one grab gunners from zipline midair
like zooom
and he ded
and he gone
reduced to atoms
xD
dense peak
deep dives have made all my friends stop playing deep rock. feels bad
rotund ivy
very nice
fringe silo
We got lucky with spawns, phase 2 was a mactera swarm then a pretorian swarm and I had all my c4 while they grouped up
vernal belfry
I'm sure they'll get balanced eventually
vital peak
vernal belfry
It's hard, I only just finished it today
The 3rd stage is a breeze with the right equipment and communication though
glacial igloo
had a really hard time doing it as a 4 and then tried it as a duo and it was way easier cause less spawns
formal dust
I just went engie and laid out prox mines in it's path to quickly take out the armor for my team
of course, having a cryo driller helps
vernal belfry
I had someone complain about my proxy mines in that one, but I mean, you saw me throw it and you see the big glowing circle, maybe not step in there?
tender axle
My team's driller made a bunker during EDD2 just to make sure we wouldn't hit egg by accident, worked like a charm
vernal belfry
Mine just went back to spawn
hallow estuary
we went to the next room
vernal belfry
I didn't realize that and pushed further and died
tender axle
If i recall correctly EDD 2 doesn't have much red sugar so we used a lot of supply drops for healing
Well and ammo, but mostly healing
glacial igloo
i think the first room has like 2?
vernal belfry
it doesn't even have that little red sugar, it's just that everyone needs health when there is no shields
vernal belfry
Wait another 4 hours and the bot will tell you
next pebble
Beep boop, not until tomorrow ๐ค
queen orchid
@vital peak haven't done this week stage 2 either
waiting for the worst mod to be available 
solemn pulsar
You wanna play with me mist ? Before it resets ?
I need to wait for my friend to go online and we could play
queen orchid
sure
wanton basin
How long till it resets?
surreal lava
resets on thursday's
vale falcon
About 24 hours
kindred ferry
The Xbox Windows version of the elite deep dive is different than the Steam version
Until recently, Xbox dread egg was located way more inconveniently than Steam's.
Now it's in the last room, which is even easier than Steam's versiom
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pale pilot
Fuck still need to finish the elite dive
Anyone up for one? Every other team I join runs to the egg room before the first wave and then gets fucking cornered
wanton basin
How about solo?
vernal belfry
I would join you but I'm NA
wanton basin
If you still need help later I'm up in like 3-4hours
pale pilot
That'd be nice
solemn pulsar
@queen orchid ping me when ready, I'm set
vapid quiver
so this elite deep dive is absolutely the worst one yet
it makes me want to die
we tried all the possible strats, died 7 times on second stage no matter what
the swarms are insurmountable
we brought the dreadnaught to the first room of course through the driller tunnel, and had 4 resupplies down all over the room
but it's no fucking use
any other strat ideas?
tawdry halo
Depending on your skill, solo it with scout just to get the weapon OC
Else, I dont really have any strategies
tawdry halo
Swarms are smaller and the dread isnt as scary when you're soloing
Its just that currently a 1v1 with a dreadnought is iffy since he always tries to face you
Be prepared to get a swarm during his fight too, possibly a sandstorm. I did it with pheromones so I can resupply in peace while the glyphids go ham on eachother
vapid quiver
well I have the slow down in mid air power
and the clean overclock for the dualies
so I should be golden
tawdry halo
That should work just fine yeah
vernal belfry
Just having a solid team goes a long way
Had a guy that died like 23 times by the 2nd stage and was wondering why we couldn't beat it
twilit locust
Is it just me or do the dives get twice as diddicult every week?
twilit locust
RNGsus is having a giggle with me sine a month
vale falcon
I mean, the elite deep dives were made to be a challenge
twilit locust
He could stop for a moment and give me a breather
'getting tired of B
yeah, but even the normal one is a B now
don't have the time to try finish a dive putting 10+ hours into it
vale falcon
Have you tried going solo?
next pebble
man, lemme tell ya
twilit locust
not gonna bother trying to solo that
next pebble
you do not want to do these ones solo
queen orchid
@solemn pulsar ping
solemn pulsar
nice
queen orchid
๐
woeful marten
@vapid quiver are you EU
vapid quiver
no
charred socket
hey
does anyone know how to do that game invite link that everyone does in LFG
nvm I figured it out
looking for eng+driller!
tough cobalt
@charred socket i can join
covert elk
almost completed deep dive
game crashed
tough cobalt
thanks
wanton basin
Finally home, i'm up for EDD, playing engi
stable gate
I'll play but not for an hour or 2
wanton basin
Welp, if you (or anyone else) wants to do EDD, ping me :)
wanton basin
I'll be up in like 35/40m D:
timber smelt
Ngl, I dont either man lmao
Ill try to figure it out
Ah I got it. Go into looking for group @pale pilot
bitter garnet
How to EDD this week:
- Stage 2
Rush to destroy nexus
A) MAke a bunker on the egg room without looking at the egg to not pop it
B) Go towards the starting room
Do the swarm
Make the Scout open the egg and run towards the starting room to kill the Dread.
Run towards second room / First bunker.
Wait for horde, clear it.
Do second room and done.
iron lodge
Me and my friends rushed the Dreadnought and then went into the first room and did the swarm. worked very well
Like, leave EVERYTHING else behind just kill the dreadnought and the brood nexus
twilit locust
@timber smelt Your invite expired
bitter garnet
- Stage 3
Cry really hard.
Engi PGL Proximity Fire AoE build and mines.
Scout M1k + pheromones and Gunner magnum.
Continue to cry because macteras two shot you.
Clear the nexus (x2) and the many spitballers.
Try to not cry.
Let the Engi build a castle and the driller help for the first spot, dont be afraid of using all that nitra.
Second spot to defend, let the engi build another castle. Don't worry, he will spend more than one resupply only for platforms, its needed.
Hope that there's no bulk.
Win the game.
iron lodge
"Hope there's no bulk" yea well fuck me we had 2 spawn after the Uplink that was freaking horrible
apart from that, very very clear explanation of this weeks EDD
bitter garnet
I have done it three times this week, twice as engi, one as driller.
I ate 3 resupplies entirely for platforms.
iron lodge
Very challenging, but feels so damn good to complete
bitter garnet
No sir ,we will not get sniped thank you very much.
iron lodge
Our Engi also ate about 2-3 resupplies... was very fun to look at
i was a scout so i was perma sniping down the Spitballers/Nexusses and hoping someone kills the macteras
bitter garnet
Placed so many mines, when I made the castle it felt like WW1.
Everyone cowering in fear
iron lodge
PTSD flashbacks man
bitter garnet
I remember the first time we got close to end. Two bulks, we just got overrun. Then whenever we asked other friends for "how did you do it" the answer always was "We got lucky, no bulks"
iron lodge
oh man in the second stage i once had 3 bulks spawn over the course of it... one at the very beginning and then 2 at the same time, about a minute before liftoff
third stage 2 bulks, yea no thanks man i'd rather not
bitter garnet
I hope tomorrow we get an EDD that doesnt make me want to kill myself
iron lodge
well i honestly like this EDD, it was very challenging but still felt doable, and it was
and i still dont have an overclock for my M1k for the scout
bitter garnet
I did it without OC because I only got them for the classes I dont play or with the weapons I dont use, rip,.
iron lodge
yea i got a GG OC for the Zhukov Nuk17 (Secondary SMG for the scout)
The one that lowers the reload time and adds a little bit of rate of fire
pale pilot
I'm so done with this dive
timber smelt
Lmao I feel that
meager topaz
Do you get anything for running a dd or edd multiple times?
visual flower
Higher bloodpressure
burnt oasis
Regret
visual flower
But no, you only get matrix cores once
thorny gate
off to a flying start
wind nest
explosive
meager topaz
A welcome with fireworks
wind nest
well, six runs with randoms only two made it to mission 2 on EDD and failed ๐ฅ
kindred ferry
For the final defense on stage 3 on Xbox, we dug a hole and covered it up. Then we just hid in there until the doors opened. Then I drilled an exit, Scout threw pheromones, gunner threw shield, and we made it.
worthy bronze
Honestly it's not that bad if you get a scout and a gunner who know exactly what they are doing
And just duo it
cerulean magnet
Do haz 5 missions to find good groups for EDD
bitter garnet
Stage 1. Easy if you have a full team. Stage 2. Easy if you lure the dreadnaught to the first room and if needed, bunkers. Stage 3. Not easy, pray that there's no bulks, bring SPECIFIC weapons with SPECIFIC upgrades.
kindred ferry
I heard something about a Black box by the way. What is that about?
worthy bronze
No black box
cerulean magnet
It's like the green box
bitter garnet
Black Boxes are just Uplink, salvage mission.
kindred ferry
Okay
worthy bronze
But black box is the first part of when you start the salvage uplink
bitter garnet
Yes
kindred ferry
Interesting
worthy bronze
Stage 3 is a full salvage extract with morkite
bitter garnet
Stage 3 is full "I want today to kill myself".
worthy bronze
Naw it's not too bad if you can hit weakpoints and dodge
eternal whale
stage 3 was the victory lap imo, mactera swarms are threatening but the map gives plenty of shelters (tunnel leading to salvage area) or really wide open spaces to run and gun (salvage area)
kindred ferry
Nah those Mactera are deadly
worthy bronze
On controllers yeah
bitter garnet
2 shots at full HP
kindred ferry
Oh
eternal whale
an engi trivializes the mactera swarm, or a scout with cryo
kindred ferry
That never occurred to me
eternal whale
that works too
kindred ferry
Flying nightmare
worthy bronze
Pheromones and shield make the salvage so easy
kindred ferry
To kill the flying nightmares
bitter garnet
Driller shouldnt be killing the macteras but covering the others so they can clear the macteras.
worthy bronze
And you can just pheromone and put a supply drop next to the black box/fuel cells
worthy bronze
We got about 5 cave leeches 2 spit ballers and 2 nexus's when we cleared
bitter garnet
2 Nexus, a few leeches, quite a few spitballers. Thats the room
eternal whale
only took 2 tries for this week's edd, stage 2 wiped us when we didnt kill the dread fast enough until another swarm showed up
next try with a different gunner and it went smoothly
worthy bronze
Yeah gunner and scout do a lot of work this week
You don't even need engineer for stage 1 if you grapple right
eternal whale
engi/gunner can delete the swarm while scout+another gunner can get rid of the dread
although we did it with a balanced comp with the driller freezing the dread constantly
worthy bronze
Hey if you play with 2 people you don't have that big of a swarm and less to worry about if you two work really well together
eternal whale
me as engi, I focused on keeping swarms dead while my team could do dread
PGL does a lot of work
worthy bronze
Also m1k isn't even that good for this weeks EDD
cerulean magnet
M1k helps with all the ballers
bitter garnet
Take that back
worthy bronze
Yeah but how often do you all get to the last mission for that to be relevant?
bitter garnet
Stage 2 is not a problem and Dreadnaught dies faster with M1k
Bulk detonator can spawn in all stages
M1k is the best for that job
worthy bronze
I mean
eternal whale
scout is useful for all stages
worthy bronze
I cleared it with the gk2 and boomstick
frail zodiac
m1k 1 shot spitters tho
eternal whale
first area has a lot of aquarqs in walls
bitter garnet
It one shots grabbers as well
eternal whale
and nitra
frail zodiac
who said you said scout is bad
eternal whale
my fault
bitter garnet
You're saying that M1k isnt "even as good" and I'm saying that specially in this EDD, M1k is the most important weapon the scout can bring. No other EDD has needed the scout to bring this weapon more than this week's.
worthy bronze
You definitely need a scout if you want to clear stage 1 fast
eternal whale
eating pizza and skimming lol
cerulean magnet
๐
bitter garnet
Too many bulks - Check
Mactera Plague - Check
Spitballers - Check
Dreadnaught - Checl
Even Nexus
worthy bronze
So you cleared it on scout?
eternal whale
stubby/pgl works great for this weeks edd if anyone was interested in knowing
bitter garnet
I cleared it 3 times with a full team (all classes).
worthy bronze
Soooo
bitter garnet
engi x2 and driller x1. The importance of scout's M1k was impressive
cerulean magnet
My friend cleared it on scout in our group of 4 on the first run
With m1k I'm pretty sure
Actually yeah I am sure
He did work
bitter garnet
No M1K makes Bulks take too long, in Salvage that's an instant RIP since you are forcing the entire team to focus on it making the macteras or anything else deal damage.
In Stage 2, letting most of the work to the gunner to kill the Dread may end up in a swarm mid boss fight
cerulean magnet
Also helps with trawlers when they peek out
bitter garnet
Everytime I completed EDD I heard nothing but the sweet sound of the Garand
Moment a scout with GK2 joined was a wipe on Stage 3 and a Stage 2 that became hard for no reason.
worthy bronze
Maybe your scout couldn't aim idk
bitter garnet
The very same scout switched to M1k and we did it with no problems. So yeh
cerulean magnet
Having a yuge threat range is so important
bitter garnet
Pretty sure it's not the lack of aim
frail zodiac
dont really matter with gk2, you cant beat m1k
quartz quest
friends and I did it with two gk2 scouts and a minigunner
bitter garnet
It's literally the weapon, the M1k is far, FAR superior as a specialised weapon.
worthy bronze
I did it with gk2 scout and one gunner so
frail zodiac
so it must be the most optimal setup
bitter garnet
Can you do it with GK2? Yes. But it's not optimal at all.
bitter garnet
It's not an opinion that the M1K makes the Bulk detonator not a threat.
frail zodiac
and that is your opinion
worthy bronze
Bulk is always a threat?
bitter garnet
It's not with a scout that uses M1K
worthy bronze
No matter who is in your game or not
bitter garnet
Scout takes the weakpoints of Bulk and kills it damn fast, it never reaches the team. All of that alone.
bronze crag
dude, anything kills bulk fast if you aim
worthy bronze
Exactly
bronze crag
pickaxe is op
worthy bronze
Going for that +5 hp
bitter garnet
3-4 players forced to turn around and deal with the bulk Vs 1 player turning around to deal with the bulk. In a salvage mission, which one is the most optimal
worthy bronze
What if you don't play with 3-4 players
bronze crag
whats the problem to turn around for few seconds?
bitter garnet
That the team gets eaten by the wave
worthy bronze
Ruins the mission I guess
I guess the gk2 scout couldn't pheremone the bulk to kill the wave then
bronze crag
or whats the problem to turn for 1 gunner, or 1 engie, or 1 driller? If u r some weird religious guys and ur parties CANT turn all to kill something cause of their religious
quartz quest
it's the opposite case where we're weird religious guys and we can't use the m1k because of it
or I can't
bronze crag
if ur team gets eaten by the wave, it just means that ur party is bad. Or u r bad. Or things just got very unlucky
bronze crag
welp, I use mk1k and gk2, switching when I get bored by one of them. And killing bugs is fine with either weapon
bitter garnet
I use both and in a full team, never anyone has thought "I wish the scout was using the GK2" but instead "I wish the scout was using the M1K"
No weapon can come close to the utility it brings
bronze crag
never met a team that would tell me they wished I was using some other weapon
cerulean magnet
Hey guys they both kill bugs
You heard it here first
Pack it up, let's go home
frail zodiac
m1k is just too good with how you can delete high value targets
bronze crag
so lets say its not about teams, its just you who are a strange guy with forbidden love to mk1k x)
bitter garnet
Love?
worthy bronze
Well what it sounds like the issue is
bitter garnet
I dont even like the weapon, I dont like to play it.
worthy bronze
Is that people are getting eaten alive by swarms
frail zodiac
are we in an alternative universe where gk2 is OP?
worthy bronze
Not detonators
urban flare
Anyone need an Engineer for a dive?
cerulean magnet
This whole server has felt totally opposite day today
worthy bronze
I mean
bronze crag
gk2 is nostalgia op
worthy bronze
Everyone says they kill the dread just fine too
Or most people do
Some get unlucky with a swarm that kills them
idk
bronze crag
the only trouble with bulk in edd I had is that it exploded an egg
in the middle of swarm
quartz quest
the only complaints i get as a gk2 scout from my team are "stop rushing" and "your mining is cringe as fuck"
split marten
and you never listen
worthy bronze
GK2 is fine if you can aim and hit weakspots as well
split marten
smh
quartz quest
shut it slowlet
worthy bronze
lmao
split marten
dont make me get the drg discord on u for usin the gk2
quartz quest
no NO NOOOOOOOOOO
worthy bronze
can't believe you've done this
I'm a sub optimal scout who cleared this weeks EDD with the gk2 lul
normal bobcat
I just wish I could get a good OC for the GK2, all I have for it is increased damage for more recoil which is just the exact opposite of what I want
split marten
i've been playing nothing but nonstop haz 5 missions this week including salvage missions, this time with the gk2, and i've been doing great in all of them
worthy bronze
Yep
I did the haz 5 without dying and resupplying achievement solo with the gk2 today
As well as 5 haz 5's in a row
split marten
m1k looks cool and feels cool and all, but the gk2 feels equally as great imo
and ive started to realise its way more ammo efficient
worthy bronze
Plus if I use the m1k I really can't use my OC'd boomstick either
worthy bronze
The jumping one
split marten
fuck, that's the one i want rn
worthy bronze
Makes you extremely mobile
split marten
saw a vid in gallery of someone using the momentum to fling them across the map in iron will
and get them to red sugar
worthy bronze
And you can use it to negate fall damage as well
split marten
the fact that you can keep your momentum is amazing
worthy bronze
Yeah like
split marten
grapple and shoot behind you and fly at mach 5
worthy bronze
I grapple over a dread stop grapple mid air, and shoot it with the boomstick just to keep flying away to kite it
Yeah exactly
I was gonna say maybe that's what carried me through the EDD
But I got it from stage 2 completion lmao
split marten
im like 99% sure the only reason i did the third stage of the EDD was because the entire team had about 500 nitra left
and pheromone spam ensured no enemies touched us at all
split marten
yeah i think i remember mining a lot on the first stage
and 2nd was shield disruption right?
worthy bronze
Yeah
split marten
thats when all our nitra started to dwindle down
worthy bronze
There's about 100 before the first dread too
split marten
but even then
every time we ordered a pod i just found more and more nitra
even with the nerf to nitra in deep dives it still feels like you get waaaay too much
worthy bronze
If people can aim and hit weakpoints stage 3 shouldn't be hard
split marten
worthy bronze
Not even trolling
Mactera dies in 2-3 hits with the gk2 on it's weakpoint
At least for me
split marten
they definitely do
its usually 3 hits for me, around 2 if i get lucky with homebrew
worthy bronze
And you don't have to reload after 5 bullets
split marten
and there's no worry about wasting damage by overkilling a single mactera spawn
versed willow
I've been using the big game hunter loadout with M1000 with Hoverclock and the Boomstick with the jumper upgrade. It is fun to grapple up to whatever I want and not worry about fall damage.
And to do that iron will thing to get red sugar across the room, lol.
It is also super useful for low o2 mutations.
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full idol
is that helmet with the glowing eye from deep dives?
and do elite deep dives have different loot?
rotund ivy
you get all https://deeprockgalactic.gamepedia.com/Cosmetic_Overclocks from cosmetic matrix cores (except mesh weapon skins)
same reward pool
full idol
thanks
astral portal
@rotund ivy sure
@rotund ivy could you send me a pm with your steam name ?
@rotund ivy Invite has been sent
wind nest
๐ฅ
full raft
Lads Iโm doing my first Deep Dive tomorrow. Any tips?
fringe kettle
You will fail. That's fine. Just remember where stuff is located in each level. You will need nitra.
Lots of nitra.
also ignore gold completely
it just slows you down
full raft
Fair. It probably doesnโt help that A: I suck. And B: My go to character is best at point defense, vis a vi, the engineer.
tawdry halo
You might suck but thats why you learn the maps and tactics after a while
Rinse and repeat and youll get it
ember hull
Do the deep dives reset at 13:00 or 14:00?
upper elm
Whatever 4 hours and 17 minutes from now is for you
vernal belfry
Always state a time zone when talking about times online ๐
ember hull
Cheers @upper elm
tawdry halo
1400 CEST
ember hull
@vernal belfry was of course asking for the time in the superior timezone of the devs
wanton basin
Tell that to the sun
visual flower
14:00 Swedish Mean Time
outer pasture
70 minutes, lads and lasses
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solemn pulsar
Thanks bot
vale falcon
Thanks bot
queen orchid
Last dwarf on board pay for the first round
wraith shard
Is this for Xbox or no?
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kindred ferry
It can be if you want it to be
tardy hemlock
There it is
wraith shard
Nice
tawdry halo
Wasnt that one of the first EDDs around?
visual flower
I think the first experimental EDD was Dread / morkite low oxy iirc
Which was also fun
tawdry halo
Oof
ashen sigil
The timers reset, but the dives didn't actually
the elite deep dive is the same as last week
or atleast that's what's happening on my end
tawdry halo
Restart your game jesus
kindred ferry
Don't say the Lord's name in vain
tawdry halo
Ahhh
visual flower
Now we know who jinxed it
woeful marten
CDM_Piano scout solo?
worthy bronze
Yeah
woeful marten
k
worthy bronze
Now where's this dread
visual flower
So far doesnt sound too bad
ashen sigil
Update, okay so i queued with a group that was formed before the reset of the Deep Dives
Failed on the second mission
Got a duplicate overclock from the first mission since i've already done it once
And when the fail screen was reached it said it awarded us with negative money and XP
Nevermind about the duplicate overclock
just thought i had that one
So really you can do 2 deep dives in a week if you time it right
*3
warm notch
Can you get a duplicate oc?
ashen sigil
I'm thinking no, but i'm unsure
indigo jungle
Magma core deep dive ๐คข
topaz lion
We beat the ice cave last night! It was totally worth it, we were cheering at the end, it was great. Thank you drg
visual flower
@worthy bronze So howd salvage go
worthy bronze
Turns out
Praetorians hurt on haz 5.5 with lethal enemies
So I'm just gonna run the regular to get it done with then reattempt that
fresh sundial
I was falling asleep during the normal deep dive.
Can we set the difficulty to be higher? This would be a nice feature imo.
solemn pulsar
Play EDD lol
worthy bronze
This is a snooze compared to EDD lmao
fading lagoon
Are there any high level tutorials to prepare me for deep dives
fading lagoon
I'm grinding my first promotion, wanna get better
Aight I heard that
I'll unlock haz5 tonight
frail zodiac
play haz4, 5 is EDD
hollow flower
You really want to be comfortable with your builds and perks before you dive into h5
fading lagoon
Ok, I've been playing some h4 and doing ok but losing half the time
Trying to be a driller/scout main
hollow flower
Kiting is the most important thing tbh. And knowing where to fight
visual flower
And knowing when to go in for a rez or let it go
Especially as scout
Breaks my heart seeing a scout go in for a rez that's just not gonna happen. Just kite it out a bit and then go in for the rez
fading lagoon
Yeah figured scout is half medic for that ability alone
Kiting with driller is very fun with the ice thrower, love the cryo
timber blade
Scout's the rez-man with the rez-plan
fading lagoon
I knew it was a sign to stay driller when my first cosmetic get was a tricked out cryo beam
wheat dew
guys do you get 1 matrix per deep dive?
fading lagoon
So I'm all about driller life, need to get the berserk and vampire perks, right?
visual flower
Berserk doesnt apply to drills afaik, something to keep in mind
blissful lantern
nor does it apply to axe dmg either
fading lagoon
Weak, but would probably be too good if that was the case
harsh steppe
@wheat dew 3 stages giving resources(stage 1)/weapon OC (stage 2)/Cosmetic OC (stage 3) for both reg and elite Deep Dives once a week.
harsh steppe
You get three cores, one for each stage.
@vale falcon Technically, Tater isn't worst mod either.
vale falcon
Or is he ๐
Vsauce Theme
He definitely is one of the more active tho
Best potato
lusty salmon
Why am i always forced to play driller in deep dive?
vale falcon
Because driller is the best class
frail zodiac
when you're forced to play driller and your engi is a mouth-breather
they exclusively use lure as well
worthy bronze
Cleared stage 2 of EDD
Stage 3 is 2 dreads and 150 morkite w/ parasites
Oh god
I just walked out and there is a bet-c
thorny geyser
seems like this week edd is really focusing on swarm clearing
fiery tulip
driller is best class
indigo jungle
greenbeards make this EDD a nightmare
2 dwarves down and no ammo? 
let me dig an egg real quick
fringe kettle
Oh boy I love stacked waves
worthy bronze
Leeches everywhere on the last map
And spitballers
I've encountered about 5 of each so far
thorny geyser
holla holla spitballa
lofty pollen
why can't you join deep dives in progress
fringe kettle
Regular DD is the easiest one yet.
fringe kettle
let me clarify, the missions and negative mutators make it the easiest yet compared to the other normal DDs.
worthy bronze
Yeah the aquarq mission is really funny
Good time to go for that speed running achievement
If you don't already have it
nocturne dust
for relaxing times...
kindred ferry
What are the mutators?
kindred ferry
For elite
kindred tide
i just died to a maggot in the elite deep dive
kindred ferry
The ultimate defeat
kindred tide
turns out lethal enemies makes maggots pretty deadly
outer pasture
Normal DD took me longer than EDD because my team was pretty bad
all just 1 bronze star, no other promotions
but EDD was pretty nice, though stage 2 was a bit clutch
kindred ferry
How can you have lethal enemies and parasites?
worthy bronze
Nothing
outer pasture
Also, veteran deep dive achievement GET ๐
worthy bronze
Its magma core
Stage 2 is super sweaty
Gotta be careful where those exploders explode
And praetorians can kill you in 2 seconds
kindred tide
I killed a pretorian and wanted to rush through the gas but the pretorian fart killed a maggot and that killed me
kindred ferry
God, those guys can be scary
worthy bronze
Yeah
kindred ferry
Their breath is deceptively long range
worthy bronze
I think gunner is a must this week
stiff harness
stage 1 is a joke compared to 2
kindred ferry
Oh I found out btw, controllers don't have aim assist but our sensitivity gets a bit lower when hovering over a bug
worthy bronze
Stage 3 is no sweat when you get there but if you get leeched it's a guaranteed IW or down
There's 2 leeches in the main cave in stage 2
At least both times I ran ot there where
And around 5?ish leeches on stage 3
But yeah
Be really careful going into stage 3
Bet-c is literally outside the drop pod with a ton of grunts
And some mactera
kindred ferry
Yikes
worthy bronze
Yep
Get your scouts to pheromone any praetorians they see during the salvage part
Preferably outside of the zones lmao
If they get in it's basically a mini poisonous bulk
Errrr
Smaller
I'd say just bring double gunner this week
kindred ferry
Replace engie? That's what I prefer by default anyway.
south flower
Question. Does promoting all miners once count as a 1 Silver in terms of experience?
south flower
DD? Same. I did the same 2 weeks ago.
south flower
I tried it myself and I get swarmed in the end ๐ฆ
south flower
2 weeks ago, I tried EDD solo with Scout
worthy bronze
I was asking for this weeks
south flower
no I haven't for this week specifically.
worthy bronze
Cause I didn't play the one two weeks ago haha
south flower
the first map of that week I spoke of was really open
south flower
I'm looking for advice going into EDD
worthy bronze
Don't expect to win at first
wraith shard
how cursed is this elite dive
worthy bronze
Study everything you can and get used to it
south flower
I saw the map is the same.
worthy bronze
The EDD is not the same as last weeks
It's magma core
And 2 of the objectives are dreads
south flower
I see... is the 2nd one on the 3rd map?
south flower
I got there the second try, team's pretty decent...
until a bee stings. really hard.
worthy bronze
Yeah it is lethal enemies
Generally means any wrong moves and you'll get eaten alive
south flower
how does one manage to go through the 2nd?
worthy bronze
Which already happens in EDD
A lot of skill and sweat
Or I'm thinking you can take two gunners
So they can consistently have a shield and your scout can pheromone
But the scout has to be careful what to pheromone cause a praetorian can just wreck the salvage site
south flower
Generally what's the right target to pheromone with?
worthy bronze
A praetorian
Or if you guys are getting swarmed
And you can't breathe and need to resupply
south flower
That's good enough advice. Thank you ๐
sleek elbow
Shield-cheesing the 2nd stage definitely looks like a good idea. My team just spent an hour beating EDD, we got it first try. Stage 3, however, wasn't better. We had multiple cave cracks during the 1st Dread fight, so our FPS went down to 20-25, and navigating through that mess was a hardcore challenge.
worthy bronze
I'd say practice on haz 5 before you do it this week
Also yeah the dread room with the volcano and all the other shit?
south flower
Is there any guides on Haz5?
worthy bronze
Just play and get used to it lol
south flower
So a sink or swim situation... ๐
worthy bronze
Or if you need to work your way up you can do that too
What do you normally play on?
south flower
Used to Haz4. Can clear it with decent teammates.
You're right about putting work into Haz5, but...
worthy bronze
But?
south flower
either no one joins, or they get murdered and it doesn't help with practice.
south flower
and yet people clear it on day 1?
worthy bronze
I cleared it solo cause I can consistently clear haz 5
south flower
with a Scout, I assume?
kindred ferry
How do you kill crowds as a solo scout?
worthy bronze
I pheromone and shotgun them ๐คท
fringe kettle
First time I've failed the EDD on the first attempt. Anyone competent want to go?
south flower
I attempted the Boomstick...
kindred ferry
Nah, sounds like you failed it
worthy bronze
huh
waxen dawn
Wait you beat last week's first try?
worthy bronze
I'll post a picture if you want
kindred ferry
I'm sorry that was mean
fringe kettle
yes
kindred ferry
Not you CDM
worthy bronze
Oh
fringe kettle
with a group of 3
worthy bronze
LMAO
solemn pulsar
I beat last week first try
waxen dawn
Nice. We managed to 1st try first two weeks but last week was a bit trickier.
worthy bronze
This week is super unlucky sometimes
You can get a ton of praetorians during salvage
waxen dawn
Partially due to poor luck, admittedly.
worthy bronze
And they will just wipe you if you don't get them in time
solemn pulsar
I failed it 3 times later on, 2 of them with fakiyo ๐
south flower
hm. Looks like I'll just need to attempt EDD solo then. See how far I can go ๐
fringe kettle
just had a group that didn't know how to deal with a dreadnought and a horde at the same time. driller and engineer kept going down.
worthy bronze
I don't recommend that if you aren't good with bosco
south flower
"good with Bosco"?
solemn pulsar
Dreads are a big wall for greenbeards
worthy bronze
Managing what he does
solemn pulsar
People just... don't press M1
worthy bronze
Is a huge part of solo play
waxen dawn
I'd offer to help but I don't know if I'd cut the mustard. I don't want to risk being a liability, even if I feel like I'm decent.
south flower
err. I always command Bosco to mine or focus on a certain enemy. Am I missing out on something?
fringe kettle
do you have more experience than a 2 star bronze?
south flower
I promoted every miner once, so...
waxen dawn
Whilst I'm a three star engi I'm not well-rounded. Working on promoting driller and scout currently.
south flower
Am I missing out on something regarding Bosco?
worthy bronze
It's more about micro managing
waxen dawn
Missile usage is pretty important for dire situations
worthy bronze
And yeah
A lot of the times I used to waste missiles
And when you really need one
You're fucked
south flower
alright, so how do you use missles correctly?
south flower
fair enough.
worthy bronze
I learned a lot about the game from my own experience
And your experience might be different than mine
south flower
Like, when do you think it's the best time to missile?
just wanted to share thoughts.
worthy bronze
When do you think is a good time?
waxen dawn
Also it might vary on mods.
waxen dawn
I use cryo rockets so sometimes I'll have Bosco double missile a nearly-dead bulk or w/e.
To avoid the large explosion
timber blade
Haven't done DD too much yet, but generally I like blasting large amounts of things to hell at once
worthy bronze
You just need to experiment and see what really works for you my dude
south flower
I'm using the starter, been putting practice into the GK2
worthy bronze
For solo that's fine
south flower
mhm.
worthy bronze
You can't rely on bosco to clear hordes of enemies on haz 5 consistently
And unless you can headshot grunts consistently without a charged shot on the m1k
south flower
so it is to be expected. Noted. Thanks ๐
worthy bronze
Learn how to use your grapple effectively as well
That is your life saving tool my dude
worthy bronze
Generally you want to use bosco missiles like an engineer would use his glp
frail zodiac
with cryo you missile breeders twice, spiter spitting things before you kill it, preat twice if in a tight spot, buffing thing once
worthy bronze
I don't really ever use cryo
vale falcon
Cryo is great for taking down priorities
worthy bronze
I guess I'm used to having the large amount of the wave just disappear
frail zodiac
breeders just fall from the sky lol, its great for driller/engi especially
worthy bronze
I don't really have a problem with priorities
It's the sheer amounts of enemies that come
That make me use normal missiles
Plus I have good aim so it helps
vale falcon
Frozen enemies take 300% more damage so you can potential do more damage by making bosco freeze them
oblique jungle
anyone know what are the new deep dive stages?
oblique jungle
elite mostly, normal doesnt need prep
worthy bronze
Yeah this weeks especially doesn't need prep
1st: 10 aquarq 1 dread no mods
2nd: 2 mules 2 eggs lethal enemies
3rd: 2 dread 150 morkite parasites
All on the beloved magma core
sick wren
In DD and EDD this week do we need Scout much like last week in EDD stage 1?
oblique jungle
cool, thanks @worthy bronze !
worthy bronze
Also
Watch for leeches on stage 2 and 3
There's two leeches in the main room on stage 2
sick wren
Is this comment with stages for EDD or DD?
waxen dawn
Does Lethal Enemies modify environmental damage too?
sick wren
Thanks
waxen dawn
Cool.
oblique jungle
@waxen dawn nope
worthy bronze
And there's about 5 leeches and spitballers on stage 3
waxen dawn
Also good lord that final sequence in mission 2 must be killer.
worthy bronze
Eh it's not too bad if the praetorians don't get close
sick wren
Sounds like bottleneck this week
worthy bronze
So phreomone them while they are away
I did it solo without cheese so it's definitely doable
Especially with shield cheese ^
Also
You are guaranteed a swarm on the second egg
I can test it again for science but
I'm not really feeling masochistic
I already tested it twice
sick wren
Do you get crafting minerals for completing DD 2nd time?