#deep-dive-discussion

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rotund ivy
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all the weapon nerfs

wraith shard
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i dont recall many weapon nerfs

outer pasture
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tbh, the only nerf i really feel is the epc

wraith shard
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epc was pretty stronk

outer pasture
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the others are whatever

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and now it is... pretty weak 😦

compact trench
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Lately my weapons havent been functioning how they did last update and I need to change my weapon load outs

harsh mountain
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they've done a few tree reworks

compact trench
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Breach cutter used to take down a preatorian in 2 shots, now it takes 3-4

harsh mountain
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oh yeah

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breach is the other big nerf

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EPC and breach basically both got gutted, though breach was more of a bug fix

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it used to do damage based on fps

wraith shard
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they rebalanced some stuff and nerfed some strong stuff but only a couple things were really nerfed

harsh mountain
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oh

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lures were also the big nerf

wraith shard
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most stuff works the same for me

compact trench
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I'm okay with the nerfs/rebalances, it's just i want to get overclocks to make things more useful

wraith shard
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clean overclocks are fairly minor

harsh mountain
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clean overclocks are like half an upgrade

compact trench
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I like the clean overclocks, but yknow it's a lottery on whatever weapon and overclock i get

harsh mountain
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OCs are like an upgrade and a malus, Unstables are just funny

compact trench
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and I only get like 3 a week

wraith shard
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thats unfortunate but it shouldnt keep you from being able to clear the hardest content

harsh mountain
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Haz 5 was doable without OCs

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shouldn't be different.

compact trench
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Of course it isn't
I just kinda miss my old loadout yfeel?
Kinda like when a top tier in a fighting game gets nerfed into a normal tier listing
They're still good, but I kinda just miss that little cheese I had

harsh mountain
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oh no

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i DEFINITELY feel you there

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nerfs feel twice as worse then buffs do

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so that's just how it is.

compact trench
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I love the buff on the minigun and overclocks on that gun

harsh mountain
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now imagine if that was a ner-

compact trench
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🙂

harsh mountain
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jk

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🙃

warped adder
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imagine if we could actually get a decent amount of OCs per week

compact trench
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But yeah i definitely just want more ways to get overclocks
Or at least rotate the deep dives on a 3-4 day basis
Or give us the preset seed deep dives and then random deep dives that give you like 1 thing per 3 levels or something idk

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Just something more
I got 170 hours in the game and I love it but I don't like waiting a week just to actually get something in end game
It's worse than Monster hunter grinding and I love that

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Doesn't give me a reason to come back to the game when I already did the deep dives except hope I get a random loot crate in the mission for a skin

stray escarp
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maybe when we get endgame part 2 things will change

compact trench
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That's what I'm hoping on

warped adder
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if they are concerned about us getting all OCs too quickly, then just include some other, more grindy way of getting them

fathom horizon
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Exactly

compact trench
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I'm down with that

stray escarp
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I have a lot of games I want to play so having weekly assignments in deep rock works perfectly for me. But I understand the point of view from people who want to grind more in DRG

wraith shard
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i wish cargo crates had a small chance to give overclocks

fathom horizon
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Or make an even harder one with a really not worth it reward so the nolifes can get their stuff

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Infinitely

compact trench
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Yeah and I have other games I want to play, but deep rock is one of the games I really want to play

harsh mountain
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40 minute survival to get 1/3rd of a oC

compact trench
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I'd definitely hate that

warped adder
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ye that would just be boring

harsh mountain
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i'm meming yeah

compact trench
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same

stray escarp
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Feels like you just described warframe to be honest

compact trench
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It is

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partially why i stopped playing it

fathom horizon
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Lol

harsh mountain
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yeah that's what i was referencing

fathom horizon
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Epicccc

peak glacier
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honestly, I'm really confused here.
so what do you use to get overclocks?
Do you use matrix cored for them? And what is the talk about charging them?
What are the matrix cores that give you crafting materials, then?

harsh mountain
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DD and EDD have a rotation of rewards

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stage 1 gives you resources

fathom horizon
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You do deep dives or certain weekly missions to unlock them. Those ideas I think were ditched

harsh mountain
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stage 2 gives you a matrix core that contains a random weapon OC

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and stage 3 has a cosmetic.

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stage 1 is also a matrix core

fathom horizon
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Hey radish, if I beat the second level of the edd is it worth it to get the 3rd

harsh mountain
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do you care about hats?

fathom horizon
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... a little

harsh mountain
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the only reward from DD stage 3 is a cosmetic

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so a beardo r a hat or something

fathom horizon
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Would you say it's worth grinding more for it?

harsh mountain
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i don't care for hats personally

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so i say no

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but

fathom horizon
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I want them juicy overclocks

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That's what I mostly care about

harsh mountain
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then you justneed to do stage 2

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stage 3

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does give you a box to boost your mastery though

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and mastery can give you OCs

stray escarp
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I got the cyclops hat for the scout. That was the best reward I got from both dives this week

harsh mountain
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yeah there's some nice hats

rotund ivy
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this weeks stage 3 is pretty easy too

fathom horizon
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Also can we talk about how my scout friend got the +200% focus damage m1000 overclock first try

harsh mountain
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then there you go

fathom horizon
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I died on the third stage nearly done

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:(

peak glacier
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Do Bosco's revive charges refresh every stage

stray escarp
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yes they do recharge

peak glacier
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gud

brittle relic
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I still can't beat EDD stage 1

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I cri

quartz quest
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that's the greenbeard filter

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you're not a greenbeard, are you?

brittle relic
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to be fair, I always seem to get one teammate that is determined to screw something up

feral atlas
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Have you watched recordings of the teams that beat it?

brittle relic
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like starting the dreadnaught fight immediately

feral atlas
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Also, yeah, gotta keep out the idiots.

brittle relic
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or leaving right when a wave spawns

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I'll find a vid to watch, start getting a gameplan together

brittle relic
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Rock and stone brother!rocknstone

wraith shard
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This weeks EDD felt a lot easier

rough wedge
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Any advice for doing Deep Dives? Im wary of doing them with randoms lol

rotund ivy
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be fast

peak glacier
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avoid wasting ammo when necessary

rotund ivy
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kill the breeders first and repair the mules as fast as possible

peak glacier
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and only get the absolute minimum, then book it

wraith shard
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try to keep your health as high as possible

peak glacier
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nitra stays with you, so you can save supply drops for later missions, if you don't need them yet

wraith shard
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might be obvious but look for some health after you get picked up, you can potentially forget

burnt oasis
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I cannot get a team that isn't too stupid to live on the EDD

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I had people pulling the dread early, I had people calling in accidental resupplies, I had people unaware of exploders, I had people who kited the dread to the furthest part of the map, died, and pulled the rest of the team there because the revivers died too

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This is absurdity

wraith shard
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its not easy

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do it solo if you get tired of teammates

feral atlas
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If you can't do it solo, and can't organize a team via other channel, you'll have to pick your battles.

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Do it alone, do it via an organized team, lobby shop like mad, or host yourself and gatekeep heavily. Your only real options.

rough wedge
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What should I do to take as little damage as possible against bugs

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Like say a swarm lol

feral atlas
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kill them first

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failing that, run away

rough wedge
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I also notice I dont use C4 nearly enough >_>

foggy sentinel
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I really read that as "What I should do is take as little damage as possible against bugs"

feral atlas
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Best damage reduction is killing them before they get to you.

nocturne dust
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another week of mostly beards and a couple of subpar overclocks

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:/

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bah

wraith shard
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yea screw the beards

nocturne dust
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was excited for the last overclock i got just now and its just a beard ill never use

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6 days

hollow flower
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This week took longer for me, was just under 55

cobalt pasture
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they really should let you pick between like 2 OC's when you unlock them

harsh mountain
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they are gonna let you choose between 3 in U26

feral atlas
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Great way to be thrice as disappointed as before.

lethal topaz
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this elite deep dive worth its name

burnt oasis
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I got to the final countdown on the first leg but lost because the swarm literally did not stop and the gunner was so fucked up that he didn't remember his shield

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Frustration personified

nocturne dust
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"so fucked up" ?

latent hamlet
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a term generally used to describe someone in a very intoxicated stated

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in this context however i believe he is saying the gunner is "beyond normal bad, hes so bad hes fucked"

burnt oasis
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I have no idea what he was on but he kept going down

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When I stated so that was his reasoning

latent hamlet
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probably smoked a lil too much

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i always play when im stoned and it seems a lot of others do as well

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lol

burnt oasis
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I realize people will do and play what they want to enjoy themselves, but

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EDD is not meant for 'fucking around'

nocturne dust
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thanks for the textbook definition

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was hoping he would mention what kind of drug gunner claimed he was on before game started

burnt oasis
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I wasted 3 hours failing repeatedly on the first leg

nocturne dust
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you know these ppl you start a game iwth and first thing they write when its too late to go back

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"im so fucked up rn, had whole bottol of whiskey guys lol"

latent hamlet
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lol

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edd is meant for fucking around

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when youre as good as i am

feral atlas
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Honestly, they should implement some sort of LFG function.

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It's annoying seeing a guy jump into an EDD lobby with a second scout, and go like "but my only promoted class is scout"

latent hamlet
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wont solve the problem

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problem is in the player not the game

feral atlas
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well

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until we start putting people in prison for this

quartz quest
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friends and I did EDD as two scouts and one gunner

feral atlas
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the player pool isn't gonna change

latent hamlet
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deornt that doesnt matter but cool

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Ze is a very meta player

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he doesnt like to waste his time

feral atlas
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better to treat it as a given, and design around it

quartz quest
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his video was almost 24 mins on stage 1 wasn't it

feral atlas
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pub, and i'm not a speedrunner

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granted, better than average pub

quartz quest
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getting mixed messages here...

latent hamlet
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meta =/= speedrunning

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lol

feral atlas
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i'm a "chance of success person", not a "quickly as possible" person

quartz quest
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he doesnt like to waste his time

latent hamlet
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yes

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he would rather complete 1 mission in an hour

feral atlas
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than fail 3 missions in 20 minutes

latent hamlet
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than chancing failure in 3 mission in that same hour

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beat me to it lol

quartz quest
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or you can just complete the same mission in less than an hour, but choices are yours

feral atlas
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I would only risk that with people I know.

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Otherwise, we strip mine and cross every t and dot every i

quartz quest
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why are you calling it a risk like your actual career is on the line

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management won't actually fire you for this

feral atlas
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failure ain't fun

latent hamlet
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deornt why do you care that he cares more than you about a game?

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i dont care that he cares more than i do

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but im not coming at him

quartz quest
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two bold assumptions to make

latent hamlet
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i think its pretty average assumption based on the convo

feral atlas
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anyways, LFG function would be better than the current system

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of randomly hopeing some guy is promoted in the class you (the host) want

latent hamlet
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i would like a class selection for quickplay

feral atlas
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large chunk of the player population in the pool isn't promoted on everything

latent hamlet
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so expanding it for everything would be nice

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honestly it is a bit weird that the end game raids dont have better matchmaking

wanton cloak
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Are rewards the same for everyone?

feral atlas
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yeah; EDD is basically a raid

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no

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they're random

wanton cloak
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Right of course

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Man, I really want a nice big beard for gunner

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Haven’t had any luck on the regular deep dive though

quartz quest
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man, I really want... anything but another driller skin

wanton cloak
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Knowing my luck I’ll probably just get another driller or scour cosmetic

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I’ve gotten all the scout cosmetics for his weapons

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I want to die

quartz quest
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god i wish that were me

wanton cloak
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Take them, I’ll trade all of them for a mech Leadstorm

quartz quest
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funny you say that, my last dive gave me a mech engi set

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I'm just as disappointed as you are

wanton cloak
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Since my gunner qualifies for gold I’m promoting my engi next

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The mechanical for the warthog is pretty cool

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The glyphid trophy hunter disappointed me though

quartz quest
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don't even know what half the skins look like but most of them don't match gk2's mag and it's annoying to think about

wanton cloak
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Just doesn’t fit any character except scout

wise sphinx
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i just got mech leadstorm

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too bad gunner isnt played often

wanton cloak
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Well the engineered solution for the scouts rifle looks like a rail gun

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But I just use trophy hunter for my scout

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He’s berserker themed

quartz quest
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if and when skin/overclock trade is added, I'll finally have a use for stuff like that big damage autocannon overclock

wanton cloak
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You mean big Bertha?

quartz quest
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yeah

wanton cloak
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I heard that overclock was pretty bad

quartz quest
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not like I'd know, I don't use auto

wanton cloak
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Same here

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My only concern for the autocannon is carpet bombing

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I used it in the beta and it’s super fun

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Not that good against dreadnoughts though

sick wren
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EDD is so easy this week, took only 19 times to finish. Like really, can we have some REAL lategame content, not for casuals?

feral atlas
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19 attempts?

sick wren
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Yeah, I have no life

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Would finish faster if didn't need to farm legendaries in WoW

feral atlas
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what kind of smooth brain pubbies were you grouping up with?

wraith shard
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ice spear seems really underwhelming. it takes a full second to shoot the spear, and the damage doesnt always feel consistent

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also the projectile shoots to the lower left which is weird

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also the ammo consumption is inconsistent. im not a fan of this overclock. maybe it would be useful if can combo a frozen target with a ice spear, or for blasting down one of the blue floating things if you dont care about ammo

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now to talk about an overclock that did make me happy to balance the negativity, the rocket jumping grenade launcher overclock is a lot of fun and very useful

turbid tendon
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I got that overclock in the experimental, it was amazing

lavish spindle
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just finished EDD where my teammates peer pressured me into making a bunker for them

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i feel dirty

alpine dew
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Damn that was ez(EDD)

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First try with two other low level randos

wraith shard
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if you can make it through the first stage, you can make it through the next two

stray escarp
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The defense segments were a bit spooky with all the exploders but overall it was a pretty simple EDD.
Did it on my second try with a group of randoms

alpine dew
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I feel like last week was much harder

near ether
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are there still some dwarfs lvl 80+ with a sense for teamplay and advanced tactics left? I really tried my best to get this edd done, but even as a 150+ i can only do so much 😦 I am really interested in the statistics, the % of teams which completed the edd. Every lobby is like barely 1 promoted dwarf and they go for elite

alpine dew
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or somewhat harder

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I did it with one stars and I was tempted to kick but we breezed through it so idk

stray escarp
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I was the lowest level of my group as a mere level 56 dstare

feral atlas
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If you want a snooze fest, gather 4 gold 3, lvl 300+ dwarves

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I've seen it

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We genocided the planet

near ether
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i am almost at the point of frustration where i throw my wound body into every lobby just to brute force a team thats finally able to use their tools

feral atlas
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But you're rarely going to see that, so, back to rolling dice with the 1 star lobbies

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Don't think it's good for your sanity to have no standards.

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You're gonna get burnout.

near ether
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As i said close, but not yet

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Probably comes the last day before new dives hit 😄

feral atlas
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Here's the problem.

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The people good enough to beat the EDD on the first try, no fuss, are beating it as time goes on.

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As you approach the end of the cycle, who do you think is left, still trying to beat it?

near ether
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haha the lobbys were not better on day 1 mate

feral atlas
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And they're gonna get worse

near ether
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on the other hand, missing one edd is not the worst case, but as a high lvl it stings the pride

stray escarp
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Solo it. Bosco is always there for you

feral atlas
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I did my first run yesterday morning. It was me at ~lvl 300, a lvl 80 something gunner, and a 600 something scout.

near ether
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from what i heard 2 player is optimal when it comes to scaling, unless you get a full skilled team that can aim

feral atlas
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2 player is also risky if 1 player doesn't know how to clutch.

wraith shard
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i recommend solo

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2 player doesnt scale much because you lose bosco. but bosco is pretty great at anything but killing

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you can send him off to go kill big targets pre-emptively while you do some objectives, and you can send him off to mine anything

burnt oasis
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His frost missiles are also pretty clutch

warm knoll
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how hard is it to solo the elite deep dive

wraith shard
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the first stage is pretty hellish

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but the second and third arent so bad

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@warm knoll

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i went driller

warm knoll
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ok

wraith shard
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There’s a hacker in my game

toxic garden
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Kill him

vapid quiver
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succeed faster then?

wraith shard
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Different name than current IGN when he spawns things

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@vapid quiver was that for me?

vapid quiver
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I guess, it was just a joke

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just hacking in a co-op game would make me less angry than usual

wraith shard
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@vapid quiver lol. It’s bittersweet. He spawns a bunch of large guys but then gives us full ammo every now and then

vapid quiver
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are you sure it's not a dev lol

hollow iris
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That's..not a hacker, that's mixer

rotund ivy
scarlet plinth
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how bad of an idea is it to try a deep dive with randoms?

feral atlas
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100% random, as it depends on your teammates

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however, on average, expect to have a bad time if don't have at least 1 other good player to partner with

last fog
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I just lost on the very first room of the 2nd stage of EDD

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after managing to carry my teammates to stage 2 and after enduring 3 losses

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all it took was for that leech to drop me on a bet-c

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and they couldn't get me up or kill her themselves

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I want to cry

wanton cloak
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finished the first elite dive with 1 bullet

jaunty basin
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I finished my EDD with zero downs as Gunner. My driller on the other hand 19 👀

chrome wolf
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I still haven't beaten an EDD

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Made it to the end of phase 3 every time

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Never made it

azure stream
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I am so annoyed by the first EDD mission. Also the second one spawned me a Bet-C + the dreadnought

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I have failed 5 times the 1st stage whilst I was the last man standing against a whole swarm of mobs as scout

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Dont even know how to finisht this weeks EDD. The randoms can be pretty terrible and the good players already finished it. But I dont really want to miss out the weapon overclock

stray escarp
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bosco is always ready to help

azure stream
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Normaly I dont really consider going solo in that mission

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Is it worth trying?

stray escarp
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dreadnoughts can be a pain if you cant cycle them very well but you get all the supply drops for yourself, bosco will do ok'ish poping the exploders

azure stream
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eh. Thats what I was guessing already.

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Problem is the lobbies I played in today where full of people that needed 5 mins+ to kill a Dreadnought. If you just freeze it it drops pretty fast

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But I am honestly just kinda depressed I cant get any people that do good in theses dives. Played with some 3star gold players that failed too

stray escarp
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The pug I joined melted dreadnoughts pretty quickly

azure stream
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Dreadnoughts arent the problem normally

stray escarp
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proximity mines, good gunner in high ground and a scout who uses his grappling hook

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everyone did their role correctly

azure stream
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sure. But after failing the missi0n that many times today I refuse to play with rank 25 dwarfs or lower. One star promotion means nothing

wanton cloak
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eyyyy

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I got something actually usefull

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a little more omf for my minigun

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not what I was looking for, but its welcome nonetheless

wide dove
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elite deep dive is rough this week

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just wiped on last step of last mission, feels bad

chrome wolf
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Same

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Let's hug

azure stream
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No seriously Im quitting this game. Fuck bosco

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Extracting is way worse than killing the dreadnought. The amount of swarms isnt doable

wanton cloak
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uh

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well

azure stream
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Dont care. Probably only way is going full bunker. I hate to say this but if the first stage is this difficult I dont care anymore.

wanton cloak
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thats...the point

rotund ivy
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you need help?

azure stream
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Yes I do. Doing it solo is worse than doing it with a 4 man squad

rotund ivy
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make an invite and we can duo it

wide dove
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Well duh

azure stream
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Dont even know how to solo the extraction part without doing bunker at this point

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invite is out

rotund ivy
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i believe im in your game already

arctic veldt
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Legit deep dive ain’t that hard lol

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35 min with a buddy of mine

reef ledge
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Soloing the EDD1 is difficult...

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But honestly that's just always the case with Exploder Infestation in Salvage

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That mission type with the specific mutator is a pita

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But... Doing it isn't impossible

dim rune
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the regular deep dives are too easy imo

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and the elites are too hard

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there should be like a median

reef ledge
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We've only seen two DDs and two EDDs so far

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It's very possible these are just some bad rolls of the dice

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Give it a few more weeks before we judge it, yeah?

charred flare
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EDD doesnt seem too hard.

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Feels like a slightly harder Haz 4 that continues for 3 stages

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that said, I havent been trying to go for speed and just aim for completion

dim rune
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actually yeah, Grapz makes a good point, the first edd had a mactera plague and i did it solo

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i only got through the first stage just barely and i quit after that

charred flare
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well i never do this solo

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which is my thing to completing it

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takes an hour or so at worst

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30 to 45 min on average

dim rune
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AND apparently there was some bug affecting enemy spawns

burnt oasis
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The first stage of this week's EDD is the most brutal

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If you get beyond it it gets easier

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Second stage has a BETC with 4 players, and the third is pretty smooth sailing

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Nitra is also fairly plentiful, so don't be afraid to call them in

jaunty walrus
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How brutal is it?

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Is it more brutal than last week's Stage 2's EDD?

wraith shard
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In my opinion?

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Yes

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It's infinitely more unforgiving than ED1 Stage 2

jaunty walrus
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Nervous sweating

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next weeks EDD would probably be easier than the first one they said

burnt oasis
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The good news is that you have the fail point early

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If your team is competent enough to survive the salvage defense with exploder infestation on stage one, it's a very good chance of success

hollow arch
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WOW, fuck that level 2 deep dive eh!?

charred flare
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which part was low O2 again?

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i completed it once and never looked back

unique lotus
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normal stage 2 was low O2, dunno about EDD

hollow arch
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Normal 2. || That extraction tho ||

unique lotus
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the dread on normal 2 nearly wiped my party because we couldn't find the last aquarq

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and it devolved into the PE nonsense where you get swarms spawning before the last swarm's left

hollow arch
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I thought N2 was gonna be so nice cause it was small then it got crazy near the end. We also had trouble finding that last one

wraith shard
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Ooooh wait till when the drop pod spawns inside the wall

hollow arch
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We didn't have a digger, so we couldn't even make it there via tunnel

wraith shard
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If you have a driller good for you, if not have a gunner shoot a zipline up top

feral atlas
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if you play enough PE, normal 2 isn't a problem

wraith shard
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If you look carefully

feral atlas
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there is always a hidden room at the bottom of the map

wraith shard
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Theres a small tunnel that leads there

hollow arch
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Yeah, It's a mess in that ceiling though

feral atlas
#

PE draws from a rather limited pool of map configurations

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over time, you see everything and learn where they try to hide things

hollow arch
#

PE?

feral atlas
#

Point Extraction

wraith shard
#

I played as a gunner with another gunner and i noticed the tunnel at the last 30 sec before drop pod departed

hollow arch
#

ah

wraith shard
#

Made it in 5 sec to spare

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Saved the run for us

hollow arch
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I died 😦 But the others managed to dig though a thin wall

wraith shard
#

Nearly ended it there

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The other gunner was busy getting stuck below the cave and i was like its all on me now mode

hollow arch
#

I was screaming at my scout friend to just run to the pod so he could continue if we didn't make it lol

#

It was fun

wraith shard
#

My heart stopped for a sec qhen i jump off the zipline and the game tp me below the tunnel then back at the tunnel

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Because lag

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Which was fucking dumb

latent hamlet
#

@feral atlas yeah makes me say

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PE used to be my favourite mission type

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now its much more bland since i recognize the layout

thick ridge
#

is there a channel for finding a deep dive group besides #lfg-steam or is that it

woeful marten
#

is it possible to find the reward pictures/stats somewhere from EDD, like pictures of beards and overclocks?

final nest
#

Want to ask, as a gunner. How should I be using my shields? I tend to save them to protect while attempting a revive but is there a more optimal use?

shy hazel
#

Generally, anytime you're surrounded by a horde and need some breathing room is a good time to use it

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You can also use it to force bigger bugs likes Praetorians and Dreadnoughts to turn around and expose their weakpoint, but I don't recommend doing that too often unless it's a Dreadnought and your teammates aren't in a good position for damaging it

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All bugs get a fear effect that cancels their actions and forces them out of the shield if it deploys over them, is how that works

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Don't try it on Trawlers or Shellbacks though, they go fast enough to ignore the effect

final nest
#

I noticed they didn't seem affected by it. Do you have any other advice for someone looking to improve gunner play?

shy hazel
#
  1. Ziplines are less of a transportation tool and more of a way to move heavy objects like Aquarq more efficiently; a driller or engie by themselves can make mobility a lot easier on any level, so unless you don't have either you should save them for when you need to haul heavy stuff

  2. Use your primary for swarms and secondary for single targets; that's what they're built for and perform best at

  3. It's entirely your teammate's responsibility to get out of the cluster grenade's blast radius

final nest
#

For reference, I use the minigun with penetration and I've got the brt specced as an armor breaker

shy hazel
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I'm not going to go into weapons or builds because that's just preference; I use a Bulldog specced into pure damage and toxin chance, but it fits into the same overall role as the BRT in a different way

final nest
#

I like #3 particularly well

quick birch
#

#3 if you do this please dont

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use shield generators when you think youre in danger, use it to revive friends only when there are 2+ dwarves down and there are a lot of enemies

livid slate
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  1. Most gunners don't use nearly enough ziplines. You should aim to use at least one per resupply. In combat they can be used to mostly ignore ground gylphids. If you expect to fight in any open area, a zip or two can make or break the fight. Especially on point extraction.
  2. Your shield is mostly for reviving allies. Only use it if you are risking going down, or have someone you need to get up. Using it in choke points (driller exit tunnels) or drop pods is also wise.
  3. Don't throw clusters at allies. It's a dick move. If an ally moves into the blast radius after it is their fault. (Do not bring clusters on low grav missions)
  4. The bulldog is useful at all ranges with one accuracy upgrade, and should always be taken.
  5. The minigun or autocannon are preference. Minigun kills faster, autocannon breaks armor faster.
shy hazel
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Oh right, I'd almost forgotten about the 'shooting gallery that shoots back' zipline stratagem

livid slate
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Hey, if you got it

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Better than wasting a zipline on a resupply

quick birch
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mind if i ask what that means

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'shooting gallery that shoots back'

livid slate
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Webspinners, acidspitters, and macara will try and shoot you off ziplines

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It's best to kill them first

shy hazel
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If you set a zipline up right, you can fire with impunity from a completely open space where no melee bug can get you

livid slate
#

Yup

shy hazel
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Ranged attacks can knock you off though, hence the 'shooting gallery' bit

quick birch
#

ive seen exploders that float up to people in ziplines too

shy hazel
#

Exploders are hackers so that's no surprise

livid slate
#

But yeah, I honestly do not like gunners that burn up their shields protecting themselves.

#

Just stay mobile and save shields for allies

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Another fun fact re: minigun. The spinup-spindown is independent of weather or not you have the gun actually out

quick birch
#

everybody gangsta until the shield clips through the floor

livid slate
#

So you can stop firing second, jump and move, then start firing with little spinup lost

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Generally I'll fire until the swarm is a bit too close, run, jump, turn around and fire into the lids behind me

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It has the added bonus of clustering them nicely for a grenade

shy hazel
#

You can also use the shield to cover mid-combat resupplies, turret assemblies, firing lines on rooms of big targets, and the drop pod so people might see your shield, realize the door's open, and get in the damn thing already

livid slate
#

Oh yeah, covering mid-combat resupplies is great

#

Especially as you get the shield back immediately

#

Well the ammo for it

#

I normally build for +Duration and +Size, how do you build Urist?

shy hazel
#

Max duration and size, used to run with the lingering effect but I realized that second-and-a-half of recharging shield would be better as another second-and-a-half of not getting hit in the first place

quick birch
#

i just spam ping to tell people to get in the pod

shy hazel
#

Oh, save your last shield charge for emergencies; if you use all four, it won't start recharging until you resupply and you'll have to wait on it before you can use it again anyway

quick birch
#

does the lingering effect work when you leave the shield, when the shield is gone or both?

shy hazel
#

Both, but only for another second or so

indigo leaf
#

Damn Trawler caused us to lose the final EDD part! Took 3 out of the 4 of us out of the gunner's shield to the other side of the map

quick birch
#

sometimes the aliens have more iq than me

#

whoever reacted just want to let you know: I'm going to steal your Glyphid Slammer

woeful marten
#

@quick birch was me, will happily share 😉

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also you can see who reacted when you hover, yeah you were right about iq

quick birch
#

i agree to my own statement and also im going to steal my own glyphid slammer

woeful marten
#

😄

#

have you managed to complete EDD Breaks?

grim needle
#

So EDD stage 3 is ass this week

wraith shard
#

Alright so I did a lot of work with some runs on the Elite Deep Dive

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If you need advice on how to beat it on any role let me know, I can give you a pretty flushed out explanation

timber comet
#

I'm soloing it on engineer right now

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And number one has a bet-C

#

squeee

languid sluice
#

EDD stage 1 is the hardest easily

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Or at least I thought so

grim needle
#

did EDD with the same team setup as last time 3 gunner 1 driller.

timber comet
#

I just flattened the dreadnought, and the detonator infestation is basically free health >_>

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proxy mines do stuuupid dps to dreadnoughts lul

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Aaand, left EDD stage 1 with 300 nitra and half of my ammo

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Bet-C doing work

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EDD stage 2 is rich atmo? lol ok I'll take your word that stage 1 is the hardest

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XD

timber comet
#

The "cave leech cluster" of stage two was like, 3 leeches

#

I feel robbed

#

lol

timber comet
#

Aaand that's EDD complete!

#

Woo

#

EDD stage one is indeed the hardest, though the BET-C makes it not too bad

#

😄

harsh steppe
#

didn't get a bet-c in my two tries :/

onyx moth
#

sob sob

clever crest
#

wait, she's not a fixed spawn?

#

we ran it twice, got her both times.

willow salmon
#

I did EDD and had no Bet-c

split marten
#

was it stage 2 or 3 that had the elimination objective in EDD?

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in the room with the cocoon, i’ve never seen that many cave leeches in one area before in my life

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literally got a friend to run out there as a guinea pig to clear it out

willow salmon
#

Second was elim + morkite

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Well it was cave leech cluster

split marten
#

i think it was that one

willow salmon
#

Although I think I had like 5 leeches in the entire cave

split marten
#

yeah, but even with cave leech cluster on normal missions they felt underwhelming

#

but jesus christ that mission

#

must’ve been at least 10 in that one area

dark locust
#

Are deep dives once a week?

#

I mean only

willow salmon
#

Yes

dark locust
#

That's bummer

blissful lantern
#

bet-c stage one ?

#

he was for stage 2 tho

reef ledge
#

Bet-C is on Stage 1

#

If you go into Stage 1 with only one or two people

blissful lantern
#

Oh ok

#

I only play in 4man parties

dense obsidian
#

Stage 3 black box is where most of my attempts last night died

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A billion trawlers during a swarm made it too unreasonable.

surreal lava
#

Just did Deep Dive for the fun of it but didint take the weekly challenge. can't take the weekly anymore kinda sad. is it a bug or ment to be like that ?

west nest
#

so wait, when we played EDD at the beginning it was affected by the increased spawnrate bug?

shy hazel
#

That 800-killcount end tally I had suddenly makes a lot more sense

blissful lantern
#

they might want to put back the bug

#

😦

#

but yeah, i really had that feeling that the game was suddenly harder after the patch

#

now its a breeze

dense obsidian
#

HAZARD 6 BAYBEE

fast veldt
#

Yeah stage 1 has bet-c for 2 player

#

3 breeders for 3-4 player

sleek elbow
#

A slight correction: it might be 2 or 3 breeders, because my 4-man team last night had 2 breeders in the main room on Stage 1 EDD.

crystal current
#

I just tried elite around 8 times. I think our team wasn't just experienced enough.

jaunty walrus
#

Eh don't worry, i had an experienced team once and still failed about 3 times

quick birch
#

are enemies always the same too?

stray escarp
#

Waves stil change but the number of dwarves affect static enemy spawns

fast veldt
#

Depends what you mean

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Generated enemies remain the same - breeders, spitballers, leeches, BET-C, brood nexus being the main ones

#

Their numbers vary based on player count, and spawn locations can change based on host seed differences

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However the enemy pool (constraints on what enemies can spawn both on generation and during waves) is fixed

#

I'm not sure if wave spawns are seeded or random though

kindred dragon
#

seems accurate bc ran the first deep dive twice and 2 bulks both times

wet socket
#

6 takes on EDD with randoms - wipes on 1-2 stage, once on 3. Triggered, and completed full EDD solo. When Haz1-3 greenbeards will understand that EDD is Haz5, not a walk in the caves with free loot?

bronze crag
#

just completed edd with random team, and 1 player left on 2 stage

#

so it depends I guess

#

(and I was dying a lot on stage 1 cause of exploders, I always do)

hazy narwhal
#

My friends and I can't beat stage 1 from the EDD.
Cleaning the area from breeders, trawlers and spitballs is hard. The boss fight with constant swarms too.
But out problem is in the defense point, we keep dying there. dstare

peak saffron
#

Has anyone managed to beat the EDD solo? Jesus christ that third mission is nearly impossible

wraith shard
#

i have

peak saffron
#

Anything you would recommend? I've been going scout for the mobility but I physically cannot kill the enemies as fast as they spawn on that last black box

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Also had 2 bulk detonators and several trawlers in the mix so that was fun

wraith shard
#

i went driller

#

3-1-3-1-1 on flamethrower, 1-2-2-1-2 on subata, 3-1-2-3-3 on bosco

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flamethrower kills all the small bugs really quickly and without much aim or thought. subata kills macteras quickly if you weakspot them. bosco is there to pick you up and go off and kill bigger guys while you do objectives

cold lark
#

Stage 3 was easy compared to the dreads on 1 & 2

wraith shard
#

i only survived by the skin of my teeth on 3 during the black box

#

be sure to keep your health up as much as possible and put a resupply pod at the blackbox

cold lark
#

When my team did black box, there were close to zero bugs

#

We killed maybe 10 grunts and a praetorian

wraith shard
#

i got bombarded

peak saffron
#

Last attempt I killed 900 bugs and I think probably 2/3 of them were on that last mission

#

I have legitimately never seen it spawn so many so fast

wraith shard
#

you cant really keep up with the mobs as scout unless you spam pheromone canisters

#

which is an actual strat: get plenty of nitra and use resupplies to keep a constant stream of pheromones out

cold lark
#

I had to kite like 3 swarms around the map once, cause I didn't have enough scout dakka to keep em under control

wet socket
hollow arch
#

Just tired the EDD, and the game helpfully decided to not recognize my perks. No last stand or vampire >_>

inner void
#

Oof, we got all the way to the black box on stage three and then a horde came and CRUSHED us

#

something like 100+ enemies, 2 trawlers and 3 menaces

#

seemed kind of unfair honestly, we had other hordes on that same map and this one was off the charts compared to them

still temple
#

might have been a swarm mixed with the blackbox spawned stuff

inner void
#

we didn't touch it yet, it was a regular horde wave announced by mission control

still temple
#

owch

peak saffron
#

Just failed on the third mission of the EDD again, everything was going smoothly until the game decided it would be really fun to spawn 4 trawlers at once

#

The struggle continues

inner void
#

trawlers being able to phase through terrain and shields is bullshite honestly

eager knoll
#

are trawlers bugged right now?

#

they used to flip upside down when shot in the previous update

#

now they're just moving slower like before but not filling

rotund gulch
#

Me on a normal mission: Come on brother! Get to the drop pod, leave no dwarf behind!

Me on an Elite Deep Dive: Leave him! Agh! Bastards got me! Run, save yourself! Get to the next stage, damnit!

thorny geyser
#

First stage of this week's EDD is hardest, imo.

#

Second stage was easy, last one was only a problem when running back to the extraction pod.

#

three guys got lost, i was alone at the pod

#

@inner void We handled regular swarm and black box swarm separately. Thankfully we had more than enough nitra to blow through those swarms. Grenades were used liberally.

hollow iris
#

I feel like gold shouldn't be in deep dives TBH

#

It's just a trap

thorny geyser
#

how

bronze crag
#

welp, nobody forces you to collect it

thorny geyser
#

no gold left behind

#

i dig any and all gold if im not being swamped

#

there's a nice big vein in lower level of first stage

hollow iris
#

I'm not,others risk the whole dive for it tho

thorny geyser
#

well thats just silly

#

but if im not being torn into pieces, im gonna dig that

paper meteor
#

is this the second set of dds or is it still the first one?

thorny geyser
#

second set

storm elm
#

anyone for a deep dive

rotund gulch
#

I agree, first is hardest, second is a relative breeze, 3rd was only annoying, since I kept getting my ass handed to me by thrawlers

wet socket
#

By the way, Gas grenades are very effective against Trawlers. After few ticks of toxin they just surface from the ground, stunned. Easy targets.

indigo leaf
#

Oh yeah, doesn't the neurotoxin debuff last forever?

thorny geyser
#

Gas grenades are really nice

bronze crag
#

they have really low dps

#

REALLY LOW

vagrant sonnet
#

Hey devs, y not randomize each deep dive level so it can be played over and over again. I wont play it more than once due to it being the same cave again. Just a recommendation.

heady vigil
#

You can only get the big rewards once anyway

#

They might change the maps eventually but it's only worth doing once most of the time

wise sphinx
#

Just play 3 different haz 5 missions

heady vigil
#

Yeah, even if you get more gems and stuff. Seems more worth to play multiple missions

wise sphinx
#

The deep dives are the same for everyone so we can all bitch about the same thing.

heady vigil
#

I think they're kinda fun but I enjoy random runs more.

#

That's just me cause I'm weird

harsh mountain
#

yeah

#

bitch of the week-

#

i suppose the argument could be made

#

that it's better if you get

#

really good at speed running it

#

but you know.

errant hare
#

lol epic russian

#

on DDE

wet socket
#

@indigo leaf Not forever, but about 30 seconds.
@bronze crag Gas grenades are not for DPS, they are for AOE damage. They make any size horde squishy and easy to kill.

burnt oasis
#

They also hard counter swarmers

#

And shockers

sick wren
#

Unpopular opinion: EDD should give ~2x more exp. Now it always gives 13,5 regardless amount of minerals farmed and creeps killed.
That's how much 3/3 haz4 Morkite mission gives without any modifiers and expensive minerals found

harsh mountain
#

i don't think that's unpopular?

#

doesn't DD give like12k too

#

so like

#

you know

#

hmm

#

EDD and DD shouldn't give the same rewards-

bold valve
#

dd was made for casuals so i think its fine

past kernel
#

For a Deep Dive: Do all members of a team have to be Lvl. 25 or higher, or just the one hosting it?

bold valve
#

all promoted

past kernel
#

👍 thanks

hard jetty
#

Dear devs

#

Please give the third tier damage mod on the Subata +2 damage instead of +1

sweet igloo
#

Posting here also: Since all objectives are primary objectives, please change it to award creds/xp for 6 primary objectives on deeps instead of 3 primary / 3 secondary

chrome wolf
#

Welp, team and I made to the finale stage of the EDD. We were all bunkered up underneath the Black Box waiting to call the Drop Pod. Then the Driller made a crack in the bunker.

wraith shard
#

Glyphids have always reminded me of the Bugs

wraith shard
#

Y E S

#

Oddly enough the loot bugs kinda remind me of the brain bugs

chrome wolf
#

There's an "I'm doing my part" voice line as well

hard jetty
#

I mean there's like two direct references to Starship Troopers yeah

chrome wolf
#

What's the 2nd one?

hard jetty
#

I'm doing my part and one other voice line I forget exactly

#

Might just be something similar but it's just more bug killin

wraith shard
#

I
Have never heard that voiceline

#

And I am so glad it exists

chrome wolf
#

What's the payout for the final stage of the EDD this week?

tired elbow
#

You get a cosmetic core, same as last week

wraith shard
#

what is a spag

#

am confus

covert heath
#

Whew. THAT was a clutch. All three others down on the race back and a damned grabber drops me into some macteras. Iron Will for Rock and Stone

spice silo
#

Anybody else having issues with completed the regular and elite Deep Dives not counting toward the Perk Milestone this week?

#

I finished both today and neither of them counted toward the Perk Milestone

feral atlas
#

both are broken atm

spice silo
#

Okay. Ty

runic haven
#

forge level milestone is broken too

fast badger
#

Anybody else having problems equipping your already owned overclocks? I can see it in my forge history menu but not in the equipment selection menu.

vapid quiver
#

gotta buy enough upgrades for the weapon so you unlock overclocking

shy hazel
#

One unlock in each tier is the requirement, I'm pretty sure

sweet igloo
#

Deep Dive suggestion: if you've already completed it, replace the cores with random resource core rewards so people are encouraged to still do them but not miss out on most things

oblique pond
#

My friends and I are having troubles on the first stage of the EDD this week, we usually die on the last defense phase before the escape pod, overwhelmed by the amount of explodey bois and the arena looking like swiss cheese.

#

We're one of each class, any tips?

sweet igloo
#

have driller bring cryo, and scout use cryo nades, frozen exploders don't explode

wraith shard
#

if the deep dive gave resource cores after completing it once, then i believe that could lead to more over clocks through the leveling system

#

scout should bring pheremone

dapper cove
#

phew just finished this deep dive, it was no joke

#

second mission turned crazy batshit when i got grabbed by a leech that pulled me directly on BETC

#

The combat was insane there was leech everywhere and a wave and betc chasing everybody around

amber plover
#

That BET-C spooked me. I was looking around for the source of the beeping and I thought I had traced it to behind a wall on my right side

#

So I dropped down and was greeted by some angry robot noises from behind me

pseudo spade
#

I almost soloed the EDD as gunner. Died as the black box finished off.

versed stone
#

anyone looking for a deep dive?

#

ive got one started just waiting

fringe kettle
#

need a gunner? I'm good for another run

versed stone
#

actually my party just filled up

woeful marten
#

anyone wanna party for EDD?

#

experienced players with voice

fallow spruce
#

what do u guys think about DD rewards ? imo 2 overclocks would be better than minerals at 1 cave

versed stone
#

rewards should be doubled

#

2 caches

#

2 overclocks

#

2 cosmetics

#

at least on elites

#

i wanna try to edd

#

steam name is AL

heady vigil
#

How's EDD compared to DD for difficulty anyway?

fringe kettle
#

Regular DD tends to be between haz 3 and 4. EDD leans towards 4-5+

harsh mountain
#

DD isn't even 4

#

it's 3/3/3.5

#

obstensibly

#

EDD is 4.5/5/5.5

cedar cloud
fast veldt
#

Deep Dive challenge is Stage 2

#

Elite Deep Dive challenge is Stage 1, but beware bulks on Stage 3

heady vigil
#

Jeepers

#

I'm so bad with haz 4, despite having good builds and experience.

#

I just suck lol

#

Also doesn't help I keep getting weird desync stuff going on lately

hollow flower
#

Do you host? That could be part of the problem

dense obsidian
#

EDD Stage 3 black box is a filter too

#

trawlers and bulkie bois

rotund ivy
#

my god, this guy tells me im a solo player for not mining gold in EDD

fringe kettle
#

gold is a waste in deep dives.

wise aspen
#

Only a solo player would think that.

#

😏

hollow flower
#

Should have pretended you didn’t know what gold was

rotund ivy
#

this other guy wants to get it done, and the host is calling us kids for wanting to get it done, instead of clearing

#

im baffled

wind nest
#

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

#

theres always one old man miner

#

kids with great big bushy beards ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

hollow flower
#

“Don’t you want your OCs” but muh gold

feral atlas
#

gold is something you mine if you want to, and can afford the time delay with your level of capability

#

if the mission is pushing your shit in from the wrong direction, dont' mine

#

If you're going on 0 downs, killing everything, it's your choice to mine or not.

wind nest
#

fortune and glory

midnight sphinx
#

Holy hell that second mission in the standard deep dive.

#

Low oxy+point extract is annoying AF.

versed willow
#

I find it fun simply because it is different.

wind nest
#

thats a good mission, makes you utilise the supply pod to explore into the deeper ends of the caves

feral atlas
#

It's annoy. But it isn't hard.

#

as long as you know how the devs like to organize PE missions

#

and have enough brain cells to rub togehter to realize you need to put the resupplies further out into the cave instead of clustering them around the minehead

wind nest
#

yep I think thats the reasoning for that particular mission, break that habit ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

#

pile up some supplies around the driller

midnight sphinx
#

Yeah

#

It's definitely not hard as much as it is annoying to have to run back to the platform repeatedly, or waste nitra on a string of supply pods

wind nest
#

however if an easier mode is to be made, the cave could have small air blasting ducts

#

but where is the fun in that ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

midnight sphinx
#

I think it'd be nice to see like, moveable air tubes or something.

#

Like, things you can string out from the platform, but they have limited supplies or something.

feral atlas
#

this is what I want to see: faster refill from resupply pods, greater active refill radius, and having full shield slows your O2 drain

wind nest
#

you dont need a lot of supply drops in between others, if you got a decent team you could create a smooth travel from one pod to another

feral atlas
#

losing shield means losing O2 faster

midnight sphinx
#

Most of my friends who play DRG haven't promoted yet so I'm stuck running them solo

wind nest
#

Am pondering to try deep dive solo - elite runs with rng players seem to fail at the first mission ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

feral atlas
#

gotta lobby shop

wind nest
#

if a team calls down 4 supplies on the first mission on elite, its already over ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

feral atlas
#

It's like tf2 pubs.

#

I join a game, and as I spawn in, all I see is a baldness and gibus on my team.

hollow flower
#

Play with people from here, a lot of the regulars know what they're doing :P

feral atlas
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And I look out the gates.

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And see 3 pocket medics and enough shiny hats to put a down payment on a house.

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I know how this is gonna go.

wind nest
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I think the problem also stems on the perks as well, not a lot use vamp/iron will ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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or attempt to mine red sugar

midnight sphinx
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How good is Vamp overall?

feral atlas
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Excellent if you don't get bold with it.

midnight sphinx
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I run iron will religiously, but the chance of 5HP from a melee kill seems a little underwhelming

feral atlas
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It's just there to heal chip damage over time.

midnight sphinx
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Still probably better than the fall damage perk though

wind nest
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Vamp can get you out of falling in most situations

feral atlas
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Vampire isn't there to keep you alive.

wind nest
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I use vamp with the pickaxe shockwave

feral atlas
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It's there so that if you have a heavily wounded grunt, your shield is full, and you're missing some health, you get free health.

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It's for sustain, not for survival.

midnight sphinx
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Good point

wind nest
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you can outlast swarm fights if used well

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even exploders, hit them +5 hp bounce away ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

feral atlas
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vampire shouldn't change how you play

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I pickaxe grunts at 1 shot range anyways to save ammo

wind nest
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it'll prevent you from going down in Iron will

feral atlas
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but now, I get 5 hp too

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Yeah. But I aim to avoid getting downed in the first place.

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Having Vampire won't change my behavior.

wind nest
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combined vamp with berzerk you do extra damage - if the bugs are weak around you, pretty much one hit them in the mouth for instant kills

still temple
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eh, if i'm in iron will i'm more likely in a horde so pickaxeing will just end ironwill sooner

wind nest
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in Elite you dont want to get downed

feral atlas
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That's the problem wtih a lot of players. They use it as permission to play risky and then die.

wind nest
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mm So far Ive seen a lot of players calling down supplies when they dont need it

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esp for HP

still temple
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hard to check their ammo counts, but yeah feels that way

harsh mountain
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i wish we could see ammo count

wind nest
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Id rather get downed and revived if I still have enough ammo for primary/secondary but calling down a supply in elite is knocking off a chance to make it to dive 3

midnight sphinx
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I pretty much only use iron will as a "oh shit there's someone down and I'm low on health" kind of perk

harsh mountain
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even if it's not their actual ammo count

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but it's like the transition ammo bar

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that'd be ccool

midnight sphinx
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It's pretty much only there as insurance in case I need to revive someone and I get killed during the revive.

wind nest
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@midnight sphinx in iron will, if you have vamp, it'll cancel it since you get HP back incase you didnt know that ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)b

midnight sphinx
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I am aware

still temple
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you have 4/3(scout) resources that get refilled try to use them equally, but sometimes having a oh shit heal is nice

wind nest
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what we need is miner - medpacks ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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little bandage pack

still temple
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heals? then we start going away from left for dead style to monster hunter, lol

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we already have pre missions Beer

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oh right was going to ask, any reason to do more deep dive after getting the cores? you can't find crates in them right? so i rather do rando missions for a chance for skins

wind nest
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I think at the moment it's the only way to get cores

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other than the 2 core assignment

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one weapon + one cosmetic

still temple
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so yeah just for speed running then

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welp time to join randos

wind nest
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though the reward for the final core is a cosmetic

hollow flower
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Only get rewards for the first time, each replay doesn't give you anything really

wraith shard
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gives u fun

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the best reward of all

sullen bone
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not sure if this is the right place to post it but I got a pretty good overclock for the m1000

rotund ivy
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got the best, take damage on T3 over focus shot damage

tired elbow
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Well I managed to complete the EDD. Given how many mini-nukes I used the Sandblasted Corridors are probably more radioactive than the Radioactive Exclusion Zone

mental wagon
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wiped on stage 2 at bet-c :/

wind nest
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sneaky ranged attacks

tired elbow
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the nice thing about solo is that you only get a Bet-C in stage one and you can just kite her while Bosco deals damage

wind nest
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can you capture both Bet-Cs though?

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on my last run, the other one vanished

tired elbow
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the spawns are different for solo versus group, solo only has a Bet-C in the first stage

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there's some interesting differences between solo and group for spawns, solo also has fewer spitballers and no spawners in the first stage

harsh mountain
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it's probably to do with how the ai spends the spawn budget

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and how bigger groups have a bigger spawn budget

surreal nexus
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someone got a gunner solo elite dive video? 😦

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curious how the hell anyone survives the fuel cell charging

potent reef
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so for the Elite DIve, I'm playing Gunner and wanted to know if I should do Sticky or Cluster grenades. I used my Cluster (which I usually do) but they didn't help a ton against the dreadnought, but on the other hand they're great for huge swarms.

So, for the duration of the entire dive; which is better?

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and I tried Incendiary but those are just.....terrible

wind nest
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Im switching from cluster to sticky, cluster is nice.. but! if it spreads out, its not a lot of damage to anything

potent reef
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yeah, it's best no Haz 4 and in swarms

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thanks

wind nest
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Im sure a well thrown nade on the dreadnought's abdomen is probably more effective than the cluster

potent reef
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yeah it is

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but i didnt know about the entire mission-wise tthing

wind nest
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trial and error!

vapid quiver
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The elite deep dive this week is a cakewalk

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it was so damn easy

potent reef
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b o i

vapid quiver
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I didn't go down once

potent reef
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LIES

vapid quiver
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one dude went down 3 times, another went down 4

potent reef
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that part i beleive

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believe*

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cuz i died like 10 before we failed on stage 2

vapid quiver
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why can't I post images 🤔

potent reef
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

wind nest
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need to try the bunker tactic for the first mission in ED

feral atlas
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post links

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images will pop up

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and I did go through the elite twice with 0 downs

surreal nexus
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thanks game.... the one gun i hate using most

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least i can only get one more sniper oc before ill stop getting them

wraith shard
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yea it's pretty shitty and expected to happen, I legit gained over 10 overclocks and none were for the class I wanted :/

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and having to wait to have a small chance for getting it for my class is not fun 😄

icy lodge
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Stop complaining. M1000 is my favorite weapon along with boomstick and I got jackshit for both

wraith shard
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people can have opinions, we both love the game but I think we have the right to talk about some unlucky bs

icy lodge
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Only leaf lovers complain

wraith shard
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okay cupcake, whatever you say 🙂

next pebble
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👀

wind nest
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M1000 is good in the right hands

icy lodge
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I mean it's what everyone uses for a reason

wind nest
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I use it to lodge gold nuggets out from the ceiling

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but! very effect against spitters

oblique osprey
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Anyways, off to try out the Elite Deep Dive

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Man this is gonna hurt I can tell

vapid quiver
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if you have a decent group, it is easy

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easier than last week significantly

dapper cove
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found it 2 times harder than last weak lol

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week*

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last week seemed relatively easy for my buddies and me so i was kinda happy to find more challenge this we

surreal nexus
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never thought i make it this far

vapid quiver
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3 bosco revives

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good to go

dapper cove
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rip

fringe kettle
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Don't worry, I keep getting driller overclocks when I don't even play the class.

surreal nexus
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and i keep getting sniper overclocks when i hate the weapon

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i now have 5 sniper overclocks

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and there is only 6 in the game

fallow spruce
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tell me i have like 10 overclocks and i use maby 3 rest is crap ...

sullen bone
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well it will be a lot more exciting when you finally get the one you want

fallow spruce
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yeah but u need to wait 7 DAYS to get 2,3 😄 and 80% that u wont get cool ones

sullen bone
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can't always get what you want but at least you'll eventually get it

fallow spruce
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i know m8 but after spending 1100h in game i was expecting somthing better than this

sullen bone
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they don't say it be like it is, but it do

fallow spruce
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they should do option to Reforge overclocks what u dont want, lets say 3 reds = 1 yellow , 3 y 1 green

icy lodge
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isn't machine events play a part in choosing the overclocks you want?

versed willow
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Yes.

oblique osprey
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Elive Deep Dive DONE. Hell yeah

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That clutch at the end though, holy shit

silk prism
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just completed my first deep dive. #1 was pretty darn hard. eplod infest+ salvage make for a nasty combo

dark notch
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What happens when you get all of the overclocks and cosmetics in the game? Does it just stop giving you overclocks or does it give out blank ones?

lethal topaz
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@dark notch there are like a kiloton of cosmetics and overclocks right now, and you most unlock them for the 4 classes separately

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With the weekly core limit, you wont reach that point until a few hundred (more like thousand) hours

versed willow
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Fruit, you just get mineral crafting rewards.

dark notch
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Thank you

vast locust
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phew, just finished solo'ing EDD

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1hr and 8 mins with gunner

versed stone
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looking for a team for edd

fringe silo
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@versed stone I'm hosting an EDD rn

versed stone
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Ah shit I just got off for the night

fringe silo
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no worries

versed stone
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Good luck anyway @fringe silo

fringe silo
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just filled up anyways

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tyty

wraith shard
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detonator spawned in tight tunnel to escaping pod

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words can't describe my frustration

lilac jungle
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need 2 more for elite deep dive, Australia

devout acorn
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When does the dive reset?

austere drift
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deep dive elite north America anyone?

fringe silo
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twice now I've lost the EDD at the end. First time around we just tried to black box and rollers and thrashers knocked us off a cliff and killed us, next round we try harded adn bunkered but a bulk spawned and killed us through a wall. I just cant win

wise shell
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usually what i do to win EDD's is git gud scrub

burnt oasis
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Always have a secondary tunnel when bunkering

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The driller should be ready to get out the second you hear the bulk

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The gunner can also use his shield offensively to push it away

blissful matrix
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suiciding/exploding mobs are an absolute nuisance in games, especially ones you can't do much about them (yes I know you can prevent them by killing their head, but how often can you do that?)

wraith shard
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bait out their explosion if you can help it. run at them and run away when they start to blow

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dont do the same with bulks obviously

timber blade
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I just blam 'em before they get close, target #1

wraith shard
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i typically run at them to conserve ammo if we arent defending a spot

frail zodiac
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apply pickaxe to head for +5 health

strong cedar
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what, exploders count as "medium"?

versed willow
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Yes.

strong cedar
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defly gonna equip vampire then

versed willow
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Sploders are free deliveries of health.

scarlet wave
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spent an entire hour to complete this deep dive

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my mates went down

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endless hoards of grunts no joke

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:(

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also they can bite you through the minehead?

lavish spindle
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The mine head provides no protection whatsoever

scarlet wave
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thats depressing

lavish spindle
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In fact the mine head is dangerous as heck to fight on

scarlet wave
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there was low oxygen

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so fighting away from the minehead was suicide

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i could have called in a resupply for oxygen but its radius is very small

left current
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Pretty upset about this. We get to the black box on level 3 of the EDD, we finish it, and IMMEDIATELY as the uplink is over a swarm spawns, but not any swarm.. This swarm is the biggest I've seen (if there are even variations of numbers of glyphids per swarm) or they all spawned at once in the final room. What makes it worse is that a bulk detonator spawned right in the middle. And to make things even MORE WORSE more glyphids started to spawn after we cleared not even a fourth of the swarm.

What fucking bullshit

tl;dr level 3 EDD finished uplink to the black box and IMMEDIATELY got a DOUBLE swarm with a bulk detonator in the final room

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1883145184

scarlet wave
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That was exactly what happened to me on my mission minus the detonator

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I would get a swarm and when the swarm is over grunts just keep on coming

left current
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Double swarms should NEVER happen

chrome palm
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Having such a hard time with EDD 1

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Got to the fuel cells at the end and trawler + explo + praetorean + mactera

scarlet wave
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im still upset about the grunts biting me through the floor of the minehead

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pls fix devs

chrome palm
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Grabber can grab you through the escape pod

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That's always a fun one

scarlet wave
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imagine soloing a deep dive and you are about to finish

Cave leech: No

chrome palm
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Bosco stops that

scarlet wave
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runs out of revives and bosco is just not smart

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literally dying to a cave leech and bosco decides to kill the praetorian below me

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how sad

warm notch
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Run that fancy cave leech perk

scarlet wave
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im not a fan of it tbh, i feel like other perks are much better

warm notch
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Better pay attention to those ceilings then

slim zenith
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gahh got trawlered off the black box on the last stage of EDD. I feel like if I get hit by a trawler my run just ends because I can't recover from the amount of glyphids that spawned while I was rodeoing around the room

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having trouble soloing cuz of all these sand sharks

wraith shard
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Play gunner

zinc kiln
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The current one is pretty hard, some randos and I were able to complete it after 3 hours and 3 attempts

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You have to sometimes learn the waves and nitra positions as well as ores

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For the current EDD, pretty sure a Bulk spawns on the 2nd or 3rd Swarm before or after the Black Box

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Couldn't remember the actual timing but

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Something to keep in mind if you are making a bunker

exotic oxide
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I solo'd the EDD, a bulk showed up in front of me in the tunnel while I was running to the pod

zinc kiln
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Whilst you're in its range it might be slower

exotic oxide
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I cheesed it by throwing pheromones at a Praetorian and then grappling past between its slams

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But yes, bulks are definitely in the spawn pool for mission 3 of the EDD this week...

zinc kiln
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Yup, in the second Swarm or the Black Box part after roughly 45 -50 mins

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On stage 3 that is

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Haven't seen it or heard it spawn earlier

woeful marten
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@exotic oxide you soloed as scout? how hard was it, how did you deal with defending the point

blazing wraith
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ye bulks are in stage 3 edd

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one spawned right at the droppod for us at the end

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but nobody was near it so we pulled through

tender axle
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Had a bulk spawn when we were idling at the black box and a wave showed up, failed for a dumb reason but i was able to see if it spawned again and it did

sullen rose
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I soloed it with scout this week too, i didnt see a bulk for the whole Dive though...

mossy salmon
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I've tried the EDD a couple of times (group and solo) this week, failed at the black box stage 3 both times :/
Not sure what to do when 15 macteras roll up as soon as the defence starts and nukes you

placid vault
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.. I guess I was lucky, I didn't see a single mactera, trawler or bulk det while soloing the black box part

sullen rose
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i just toss a pheramone canister and you are pretty much invulnerable for 10 seconds

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with enough resupplies you can survive the black box without having to fight

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you just have to focus down the trawlers as they dont seem to care about the pheramones...

clever crest
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pretty sure it lasts less than 10 seconds. gotta balance the magnitude of effect somehow.

hexed crater
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This week's EDD was kind of easy or is it me

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lots of mactera but gunner shield and scout sniping kind of removes them

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We even got a BETC at stage 2 which made it a cakewalk

outer pasture
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Did the EDD first try with one random, yeah

hexed crater
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3 randos first try for me

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though two were hella high level

outer pasture
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Sadly it doesnt count towards the achievement 😦

hexed crater
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which?

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DDs are great
Remember those missions with too much nitra where you have enough for 3-4 resupplies at the end of it that you have no use for
Okay now make that x3
What's ammo shortage

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For real waaay too much nitra

outer pasture
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The 5 Deep Dive achievement

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Milestones are bugged too

hexed crater
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EDDs don't count for it?

outer pasture
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dds do not count at all atm

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since it is bugged

hexed crater
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oh true mine's stuck at 2/5

outer pasture
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didn't do the first edd because my friends were busy 😦

hexed crater
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I just winged it with randos

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Took quite a few attempts

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last stage is hell

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and just out the pod of 2nd

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say hi to multiple spitters and a nexus and exploder infestation and a breeder

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F you

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this week's was a breeze in comparison

mossy salmon
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@sullen rose ahh that's a great idea. I'll try that tonight

tender axle
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this week was rough because i was getting horrible randoms

hard hollow
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I keep losing on the defense portion of this week's first EDD stage

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Keep getting overwhelmed by exploders

stray escarp
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Yup it's hell. Do you have a team or doing solo?

hard hollow
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Team