hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:40 AM

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I'd also change healing so that you can overheal with red sugar

hollow iris Sep 30, 2019, 3:40 AM

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Make em drop actual good amounts of loot like they used to

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:40 AM

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You gain 10% more healing from red sugar AND you can overheal 5%

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And scale up to 20% and 10% more overheal

burnt oasis Sep 30, 2019, 3:40 AM

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You should absolutely give up a perk slot so you free up the 2 seconds it takes to pickaxe a loot bug and make them automatically explode instead

nova elk Sep 30, 2019, 3:40 AM

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Overheal would be cool

harsh mountain Sep 30, 2019, 3:40 AM

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i kind of disagree with overhealing, but not really in the mood to debate it

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:41 AM

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I'd put the speed boost from red sugar onto killing loot bug

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And scale from 10-30%

devout acorn Sep 30, 2019, 3:41 AM

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Is haunted cave Deep Dive only?

harsh mountain Sep 30, 2019, 3:41 AM

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no.

devout acorn Sep 30, 2019, 3:41 AM

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ah

harsh mountain Sep 30, 2019, 3:41 AM

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it's just kind of rare.

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i saw it earrlier today when iwas doing assignments solo

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it's why i diddn't finish my assignments lol

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Actually. I’d just make the loot bug perk cause the bugs to drop more loot

burnt oasis Sep 30, 2019, 3:43 AM

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You can't mess with fundamental intrinsic balance like that

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Same as with HP managment

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Loot bugs drop extra loot and one of the special upgrade ores

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If you’re giving up a perk slot it needs to be worth the loss

wise sphinx Sep 30, 2019, 3:44 AM

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would it only work in deep dives?

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Ideally a perk that doesn’t make you fight better or not die more should come with a strong incentive

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Risk v reward

nova elk Sep 30, 2019, 3:45 AM

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What about a perk that makes people like you more

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:45 AM

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That’s a perk

nova elk Sep 30, 2019, 3:45 AM

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A buff for being near other players

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:46 AM

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You’re already very incentivized to stick together

wise sphinx Sep 30, 2019, 3:46 AM

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no you arent

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Not when you’re not fighting I suppose but in a horde you wanna find your battle buddy pretty quick

wise sphinx Sep 30, 2019, 3:46 AM

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only in edd or haz 5

devout acorn Sep 30, 2019, 3:46 AM

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what a silly thing to say

hollow iris Sep 30, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Ed EDD & Eddy

devout acorn Sep 30, 2019, 3:47 AM

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when you're at a skill level where haz 5 and edd are what challenges you, of course that's the difficulties where you need to stick together

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a newer player would need to stick with the team at lower levels

wise sphinx Sep 30, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Deep dive is already double d

devout acorn Sep 30, 2019, 3:47 AM

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it's like saying "you're not encouraged to aim because you only need to aim effectively at high hazards"

wise sphinx Sep 30, 2019, 3:48 AM

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its kinda true though

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given how hp scales and enemy # scales

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:48 AM

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I can’t speak for “pro” play but as a new player this game encourages you to stick close to your buddies

devout acorn Sep 30, 2019, 3:48 AM

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literally all that means is that you're an experienced player

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:48 AM

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Enemies can come from any direction and you have downtime and limited ammo

wise sphinx Sep 30, 2019, 3:48 AM

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you dont need to aim effectivly at haz 1 or 2

hollow iris Sep 30, 2019, 3:48 AM

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Oh good, this again

devout acorn Sep 30, 2019, 3:48 AM

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you don't need to do anything effictively at hazard 1 or 2

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what are you talking about

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:49 AM

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Also stuff like the grabber bugs can kill you if you go solo

devout acorn Sep 30, 2019, 3:49 AM

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the game is designed for sticking together, that applies at whatever difficulty challenges you

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any mechanic becomes less important when you're playing at a difficulty below you

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:49 AM

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Im sure good players can very much run around by themselves but that’s neither here nor there when it comes to the design

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All the skills and mechanics come together to encourage teamwork, sans scout to a degree

harsh mountain Sep 30, 2019, 3:50 AM

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the mechanic that encourages sticking together in the game right now is uh

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snatchers and leaches.

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:50 AM

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But his grappling hook is a great team saver just the same since he can pull aggro away or zip to a downed ally

harsh mountain Sep 30, 2019, 3:50 AM

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and that 3rd enemy that's a pain i n the ass

hollow iris Sep 30, 2019, 3:50 AM

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Trawlers

royal trail Sep 30, 2019, 3:51 AM

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Sharing Molly, and not having to wait six years for it to traverse the map

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:51 AM

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And shield, distraction, reload times, turret, cryo gun

hollow iris Sep 30, 2019, 3:51 AM

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Molly REALLY needs some speed/hover jets or something

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:51 AM

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Zip lines

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Zip lines plus engineer foam pads especially

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Any complex map without engineer + gunner is a painus in my anus

harsh mountain Sep 30, 2019, 3:52 AM

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just drill 4head

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:52 AM

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The safest way to play, the most reliable, is to be butt buddies and work together, I don’t think a perk is needed to further encourage that

harsh mountain Sep 30, 2019, 3:53 AM

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yeah drilling doesn't even work well if it's a giant pit.

hard jetty Sep 30, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Not the fastest just the safest

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I was specifically thinking of the giant caverns yeah. Zip lines are basically useless in tunnel maps but I’m not sure how you’re even supposed to do the starting quest egg hunt map without a zip line

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Probably because you’re not supposed to do that map without a zip line. All the egg spawns are at the tops of that giant cavern. Itd take fifteen minutes of mining to get to them all unless you use all the nitro on driller resupplying

formal solar Sep 30, 2019, 4:16 AM

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EDD was pretty hard

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Luckily we had an engi with Nuke grenades

wraith shard Sep 30, 2019, 4:58 AM

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friendship is the best perk

halcyon cipher Sep 30, 2019, 6:07 AM

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@here Are you able to start a deep dive from a failed stage?

magic condor Sep 30, 2019, 6:15 AM

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nope restarted from first part

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Man, stage 2 of the elite is just absolute hell

outer aurora Sep 30, 2019, 6:59 AM

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I don't know which upgrades are good ;__;

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Is Gunner usually preffered in a group?

harsh steppe Sep 30, 2019, 7:20 AM

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I hope so 😂

gilded wadi Sep 30, 2019, 7:22 AM

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yea that stage 2 of the elite is very difficult, perhaps im not quite smart enough for it

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 7:25 AM

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Eh nah, its just that its probably the level that Jacob designed

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considering the crazy amount of enemies right off the bat

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only thing missing is the crazy amount of BET-C's

fierce jacinth Sep 30, 2019, 7:54 AM

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I did my elite deep dive on my first try

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Was actually my first dive too lol

halcyon cipher Sep 30, 2019, 8:21 AM

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I just wish 90 percent of the difficulty wasn't "Teehee stuff never stops spawning"

rotund ivy Sep 30, 2019, 8:36 AM

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just did another EDD with randoms and no comms

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614494136212520988/628147984059858954/unknown.png

vocal bronze Sep 30, 2019, 8:40 AM

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that censorship

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lmao

cobalt obsidian Sep 30, 2019, 9:05 AM

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whats the difficulty level of the elite deep dives? similar to haz 4 or haz 5?

harsh steppe Sep 30, 2019, 9:06 AM

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Haz 5.5 - they have a difficulty they lean against, but more things make it different.

cobalt obsidian Sep 30, 2019, 9:09 AM

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interesting

static whale Sep 30, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Its going to take a bit to get it working right. I always thought Deep Dive was designed as a 4 player mission that used every aspect of game build. If ppl think it is designed for solo engagement they probably have forgotten why multiplayer is about playing games with other humans.

fierce jacinth Sep 30, 2019, 9:40 AM

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Caving alone with a flying robo < caving with the broooss

nova pasture Sep 30, 2019, 9:54 AM

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Some one needs to make a me and the boyz on a deep dive meme

merry brook Sep 30, 2019, 10:09 AM

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Is it normal for me to not be able to join any ongoing deep dives?

rotund ivy Sep 30, 2019, 10:11 AM

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yes

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you cant join ongoing DDs

next pebble Sep 30, 2019, 10:12 AM

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that means no late join leeching for people, which is great imo

merry brook Sep 30, 2019, 10:12 AM

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But I love leeching off other dwarves' hard work ;-;

thorny tide Sep 30, 2019, 10:27 AM

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Theres 5 groups max of elite deep dives especially at night jesus, dont see much at all during the day either

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And like half of them are already active so i can only ever join like 2 of them lol

somber cipher Sep 30, 2019, 11:16 AM

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Elite deep dives end on a haz 5 dont they?

fathom kelp Sep 30, 2019, 11:22 AM

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Haz 5.5, according to devs

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3.5, 4.5, 5.5

nocturne dust Sep 30, 2019, 11:22 AM

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where did the devs say so

fathom kelp Sep 30, 2019, 11:23 AM

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https://deeprockgalactic.gamepedia.com/Difficulty_Scaling

Deep Rock Galactic Wiki

Difficulty Scaling

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 11:41 AM

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Ahhh how do you get past Stage 2 of EDD

fast veldt Sep 30, 2019, 11:43 AM

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How do you start stage 3 of EDD

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The two times I've made it, I've fallen off the map on spawn

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And I can't rejoin

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I'm so pissed off about this

pearl comet Sep 30, 2019, 11:52 AM

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I honestly find stage 2 of EDD to be hard. 1 was just learn and adapt, got that after 2 or 3 attempts, but stage 2 gets me killed over and over. I think I'm at my 8th attempt for stage 2

burnt sandal Sep 30, 2019, 11:54 AM

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@jaunty walrus with a lot of dakka
@fast veldt Yeah, some people have troubles with that. I would still recommend trying again maybe, see if the issue is persistent or just bad luck ?

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The stage 2 is also easier with 3 people, since you won't have the spitballers right at the start

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so maybe try going in as a team of 3 and see how it works out

fast veldt Sep 30, 2019, 11:55 AM

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EDD Stage 2 tips:
Use the drop pod as shelter
Call resupply in top room.
Fight swarms in top room: flat terrain is easy to avoid exploders, pillars for blocking acidspitter line of sight, and rollers that spawn down below can't get up to you
ACIDSPITTERS ARE PRIORITY #1
Take out breeders before objective, if you summon swarms while dealing with naecodytes you're going to have a bad time
Complete Mini Mules to get Nitra
Get Eggs last once you've cleared all the stage generation enemies and are good for nitra

pearl comet Sep 30, 2019, 11:57 AM

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The spitballers at the pod suck, but they only really got me once

fast veldt Sep 30, 2019, 11:57 AM

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I see game after game all three dwarves run out and die within 10 seconds, then stay outside the pod so it's imposssible to revive them

pearl comet Sep 30, 2019, 11:58 AM

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I play Gunner, throw out shield and focus them down as a team, so far all my team members caught onto that and did an A+ job

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What gets us mostly is the combination of acidspitters, exploders and slow/stun effects

fast veldt Sep 30, 2019, 11:59 AM

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Then people try to revive deaths caused by acidspitters... just no

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Acid spitters are always priority over reviving

pearl comet Sep 30, 2019, 12:01 PM

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Yeah, didn't even see them at first lol

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I feel like I saw acidspitters more rarely recently in normal missions

rose sorrel Sep 30, 2019, 12:03 PM

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Is there a point where people can't join a deep dive mid-way? Like after part 1 or so?

tame torrent Sep 30, 2019, 12:04 PM

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they can't join deep dive when it starts

formal spruce Sep 30, 2019, 12:04 PM

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Does anyone have any idea how far away a battery can be to a cargo crate? I've been looking for more than an hour now, and I can't find the second one

tame torrent Sep 30, 2019, 12:06 PM

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should be quite close like 5meters ish?

formal spruce Sep 30, 2019, 12:07 PM

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okey, I'll try again. Thank you

fast veldt Sep 30, 2019, 12:08 PM

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20 meters in any direction

burnt sandal Sep 30, 2019, 12:12 PM

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they can also be buried in the ground too.

pearl comet Sep 30, 2019, 12:12 PM

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Didn't know that, that's actually really helpful

versed willow Sep 30, 2019, 12:12 PM

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Yeah, this previous EDD was a fun challenge.

formal spruce Sep 30, 2019, 12:13 PM

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Thank you all for the help

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I'll update when I find it

versed willow Sep 30, 2019, 12:14 PM

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Don't forget to check cracks like wind tunnels or swarmer nests.

woeful shadow Sep 30, 2019, 12:19 PM

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For EDD stage 2, gunner and driller are the heavy lifters

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shield is pretty mandatory and cryo will hold a lot of it back

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Gunner/scout shoot the spit ballers, driller gets the medium stuff, engi gets small stuff with turrets

versed willow Sep 30, 2019, 12:27 PM

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I used the crisper to delete the swarms.

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Kind of made the Breeders tough to deal with until they got close enough for heat radiance.

versed stone Sep 30, 2019, 12:36 PM

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Tbh elite deep dive wasn’t that hard

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Cleared it on my first run

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Then again I did have someone on my team who had tried it like 10 times and knew everything that was coming

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 12:39 PM

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I tried it 6+ times now and i still could barely cleared the 2nd stage

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heck i haven't even completed the entire thing once

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Stage 2 cleared, Stage 3 is a different kind of hell

versed stone Sep 30, 2019, 12:39 PM

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I think the secret is to stay in the pod for a bit on the second and third stage

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I found stage 3 the easiest somehow

indigo jungle Sep 30, 2019, 12:40 PM

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pod is less safe than just popping a shield right out of it and melting the big enemies

versed stone Sep 30, 2019, 12:40 PM

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None of us went down

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 12:40 PM

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I mean yeah, but clearing the first chamber you land in is the 1st problem

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constantly being attacked is another

versed stone Sep 30, 2019, 12:40 PM

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Yeah but you’ll need 2 gunners incase shield goes down before they do

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 12:40 PM

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especially in Stage 2 where its egg hunt

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plus exploders

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and boy does the game love to spam Spitters at you in Stage 2 and 3

versed stone Sep 30, 2019, 12:41 PM

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Explorers were hell

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That was probably the hardest stage

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Stage one was pretty easy to clear quickly

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 12:42 PM

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I managed to get myself into a team of rather high level players for EDD and they cleared stage 1 and 2 rather fast and efficiently, we got overwhelmed on Stage 3 later on though

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Still i don't know how it works

versed stone Sep 30, 2019, 12:42 PM

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What was your team comp like?

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 12:43 PM

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kind of, they wouldn't immediately curse you or kick you for a mistake immediately, two players were about 300-600 in level

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One other was 150+

versed stone Sep 30, 2019, 12:43 PM

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Which classes were you?

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 12:44 PM

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Driller

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they insisted i played driller even though i didn't know how to play it effectively

versed stone Sep 30, 2019, 12:44 PM

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Me and my team got through it without a driller

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You should just play what you can play best

exotic oxide Sep 30, 2019, 12:44 PM

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I gave up on looking for or joining random groups and did the EDD solo

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Kiting and Bosco's ammo are infinite shrug

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If you want to kite definitely go scout though, on stage 2 and 3 you can't really outrun things

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 12:46 PM

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I almost managed to get through Stage 2 on another seperate occasion, using a plan i had come up with a few other players that i've played with

exotic oxide Sep 30, 2019, 12:46 PM

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I'm with HexZyle on acidspitters being #1 priority though

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 12:47 PM

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one of us would stay in the drop pod, while the other 2-3 as scouts would go out

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things went downhill after rollies came in though mid way through

versed stone Sep 30, 2019, 12:48 PM

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I like to focus on taking out chaff

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So that gunner can focus on praetorians and the like

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Driller with cryo would’ve helped

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Best team comp is probably like
Engie with launcher and smg
Scout with m1000
Driller with cryo
Gunner with thunderhead

indigo jungle Sep 30, 2019, 12:55 PM

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I feel like m1000 is vastly overrated

woeful shadow Sep 30, 2019, 1:01 PM

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too bad its only competition is G2K

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M1000 is just a better Bulldog revolver

formal spruce Sep 30, 2019, 1:02 PM

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@burnt sandal do you know if there is any limit for how deep under the ground the battery could be??

fast veldt Sep 30, 2019, 1:02 PM

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The furthest I've seen batteries are 20m.

woeful shadow Sep 30, 2019, 1:03 PM

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Ive seen batteries 50m+ away

fast veldt Sep 30, 2019, 1:03 PM

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I measured. I'll keep checking ones I find though to see if any are further or closer than this

formal spruce Sep 30, 2019, 1:04 PM

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Okay, thank you. I'll keep looking

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 1:05 PM

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i saw a battery pretty far away... after my teammate threw it off the cliff

wraith shard Sep 30, 2019, 1:11 PM

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So if EDD can be 5.5, does that mean haz 6 will be a thing?

heavy wraith Sep 30, 2019, 1:12 PM

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infinite Hazard levels

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 1:14 PM

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lol haz6 would probably be limited revives at this point

formal spruce Sep 30, 2019, 1:14 PM

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I made Bosco hold one earlier, but I'm pretty sure that it is the one I have connected to the cargo crate. Could it be that Bosco somehow lost the last one?

woeful shadow Sep 30, 2019, 1:14 PM

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They can spawn in nasty places too

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like ice vents

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or on top of the drop pod

heavy wraith Sep 30, 2019, 1:14 PM

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this one time one of my batteries spawned in a super thin hard-to-see crack in the wall

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took a good 5 minutes to finally spot it

formal spruce Sep 30, 2019, 1:15 PM

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@heavy wraith I've spent about 2 hours now

heavy wraith Sep 30, 2019, 1:16 PM

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oh yikes

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at that point just leave it behind

royal trail Sep 30, 2019, 1:16 PM

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You're looking in the dark right?

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They glow something fierce

formal spruce Sep 30, 2019, 1:17 PM

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yes, I am. Haven't seen any glow tho

royal trail Sep 30, 2019, 1:17 PM

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😦

formal spruce Sep 30, 2019, 1:18 PM

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Like I can't just quit now. Then I've wasted 2 hours on nothing

formal spruce Sep 30, 2019, 1:40 PM

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Thank you all for helping me, but I give up

heavy wraith Sep 30, 2019, 1:54 PM

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F, may your next beer be particularly foamy

burnt sandal Sep 30, 2019, 2:04 PM

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F

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damn

frozen wren Sep 30, 2019, 2:05 PM

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F

candid flume Sep 30, 2019, 2:09 PM

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f

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 2:20 PM

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tfw you've been playing DRG EDD for the entire day since you woke up at 10 AM, but you still haven't been able to complete it

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im feeling slightly suicidal.... heh... heh...

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send help

sturdy glade Sep 30, 2019, 3:09 PM

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I wouldn't worry too much, EDD stage 2 is particularly brutal with endless swarms of exploders

daring nova Sep 30, 2019, 3:11 PM

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did anyone else feel nitra starved on stage 1?

harsh mountain Sep 30, 2019, 3:14 PM

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DD?

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DD1 has a SHIT ton of nitra

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you can easily rfinish the mision with over 300

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EDD i think has like 178

daring nova Sep 30, 2019, 3:16 PM

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I meant EDD

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 3:17 PM

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You should be able to gather 150-200+ nitra on the 1st stage of EDD

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also you shouldn't call down supply pods more than 2-3 max

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If you're really ammo saving, you can get through the 1st stage with only one supply pod

daring nova Sep 30, 2019, 3:18 PM

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Might just have to skate fast eat ass and speed through the first stage because I struggled to find nitra on that stage

harsh mountain Sep 30, 2019, 3:19 PM

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yeah it's rich atmospher

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just run and ignore all the enemies4head

daring nova Sep 30, 2019, 3:19 PM

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just don't shoot 4head

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Im starting to think whether im suppose to like Deep Dive or hate it...

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like EDD is really making my mind scream

nocturne dust Sep 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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are you playing solo

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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No

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im doing full teams

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and on every single one, its a failure

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even with a team of well experienced players

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I've literally been playing the gamemode for the entire day, from morning to midnight

nocturne dust Sep 30, 2019, 4:11 PM

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playing with friends?

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:11 PM

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no pubs

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:16 PM

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I'd join EDDs more to help people but i spend huge amounts of time basically doing nothing if my team isn't up to snuff

nocturne dust Sep 30, 2019, 4:17 PM

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that's what scares me, i'd join to help because i beat it but idk

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would help if there was a small bonus in it

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for re-doing

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Yeah second clear bonus that isn't cores would definitely be nice

nocturne dust Sep 30, 2019, 4:17 PM

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I wish there was a way to grind even if it's slow, beyond the weekly DD and assignments

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there's no point in my playing deep rock atm becuase i have to wait 2 days for a chance at unlocking the overclocks i want

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Thats what i theorize at the moment, because only in one match did i get a team thats really experienced, the rest are usually just Bronze 1-3 promoted players or at best, silvers

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Maybe just like 20 crafting mats of 2 different types would make me do dives after the first clear

nocturne dust Sep 30, 2019, 4:18 PM

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I had a different definition of "end game" but maybe update 26 will fix that

fringe kettle Sep 30, 2019, 4:18 PM

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For EDD everyone needs to be mining. You will fail if you don't gather enough nitra. Everyone needs to be using their roles to their fullest extent possible.

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Eh doesn't work,

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you get overwhelmed

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i had one team that went through like 4 losses

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we started coming up with plans

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save nitra, ammo

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stay in the drop pod

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Sometimes your teammates make it impossible to progress, gets rough

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:19 PM

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stick together, i.e i.e

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in the end we still lost and everyone gave up

nocturne dust Sep 30, 2019, 4:19 PM

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I think everybody needs to pull their weight tbh

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scout especially

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Apparently duoing works well but you need to reslly trust the person with you

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:20 PM

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We even started doing combined classes in an attempt to clear it

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like 3 scouts 1 engineer

fringe kettle Sep 30, 2019, 4:20 PM

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I beat it with randoms the day it came out on the first attempt. Second stage wasn't easy. You just have to power through it. Find openings and take them. If someone throws a lure, take that opening to dig up a mule leg and attach it.

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:20 PM

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I don't know man, i've been playing for the entire day

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Sometimes, you just gotta run around with 1 hp and do objectives

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Atleast that's what i did

fringe kettle Sep 30, 2019, 4:21 PM

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you should have no down time especially on that second stage

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there should always be something to do

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Honestly you probably don't even need to mine ammo in 2nd stage

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Well main issue is that the best experienced players in my games are silvers, i have only seen two golds in my EDDs

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:21 PM

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I had a gold scout, completely useless

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:21 PM

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like the highest levels each player has is about 100-150

fringe kettle Sep 30, 2019, 4:22 PM

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they've probably already beaten it and don't want to do it again

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Yes, thats also the other issue

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Had 48 kills at the end and almost none of them were high priority targets

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:22 PM

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another thing im thinking is most experienced players probably play with friends

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Ah well i don't know, maybe tommorow will be different

fringe kettle Sep 30, 2019, 4:23 PM

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gotta remember that the highest difficulty is there for a reason. Not everyone is going to be able to do it.

nocturne dust Sep 30, 2019, 4:23 PM

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promoted scout with GK2 🙃

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I'm going to offend someone

fringe kettle Sep 30, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Plus there'll be a new EDD later this week. Might be easier, might be harder, might be the same.

harsh mountain Sep 30, 2019, 4:29 PM

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it'd probably mess up the mastery system

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but i think it'd be nice if they'd replace the rewards with the whole uh

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resource matrix cores you get at stage 1

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:33 PM

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It doesn't help that 3/4 of my characters aren't promoted yet

fathom horizon Sep 30, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Is subata or epc better for the edd

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:48 PM

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I'd say Subata

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on the first stage, you'll see a livington of macteras

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and on the second, there will be alot of spitters

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on the 3rd, its more or less the same as the 2nd

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On all 3 stages however, there will be macteras, quite alot actually

fathom horizon Sep 30, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Yeah true

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And is cryo vs flamethrower up to preference?

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Mmm can't say, there won't be any bulks as far as i've played

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and your Cryo Cannon tends to not be capable of icing the floaty things quick enough

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by floaty things i meant literally all airborne enemies

fathom horizon Sep 30, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Yup true

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:51 PM

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The only thing really good that cyro counters in EDD is the rollers

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I hate those things

fathom horizon Sep 30, 2019, 4:52 PM

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I'd say all except the breeder on the second edd. If he comes up you can freeze and instakill the breeder

stray escarp Sep 30, 2019, 4:52 PM

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epc does a better job at deleting jellyfish than the subata. But the flamethrower with exploding bug upgrades can also delete them

foggy sentinel Sep 30, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Cryo is useful in stage 2 exploder infestation

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Semi useful, your team tends to force the exploders to detonate first before you really even cryo them

foggy sentinel Sep 30, 2019, 4:52 PM

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And also nullifying the spitballers for a little bit

fathom horizon Sep 30, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Trueee

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:52 PM

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there will only be one or two spitballers most of the time

foggy sentinel Sep 30, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Personally I think it comes down to preference

stray escarp Sep 30, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Usually people just run towards exploders to trigger them all without wasting ammo

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:53 PM

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spitballers at the starting chamber, if its not there, then its on the chamber below

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for the 2nd stage

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iirc there won't be any spitballers for the 3rd

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Your gunner, scout and engineer can deal with the spitballers with ease in my experience

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no point in icing them

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Stage 3 is prrtty linear

stray escarp Sep 30, 2019, 4:53 PM

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terrain wasnt too difficult to traverse either

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:54 PM

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There is the nexus however

fathom horizon Sep 30, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Ok its settled, I'm trying edd again but only with a duo

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:54 PM

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where you playing from?

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i'd join you

fathom horizon Sep 30, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Canada

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Lol

stray escarp Sep 30, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Bosco is always there for you if needed bosco

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:54 PM

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errr... thats gonna be a problem

fathom horizon Sep 30, 2019, 4:54 PM

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It's fine, I have someone in mind

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:54 PM

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last time i played with someone from the American continent i had about 50-100 ms

fathom horizon Sep 30, 2019, 4:55 PM

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I've legit only promoted once so as far as levels go I'm a noob

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Ah screw it, im getting a bit desperate

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what class will you be playing?

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Lol don't worry, you're probably still better than that 3 star gold scout i ran into

fathom horizon Sep 30, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Lmao

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Driller

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Yeah okay, i'll just play as scout

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Literally that scout was a potato

fathom horizon Sep 30, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Ok I've got to go now, ttyl

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But @ me in like 2 hours if you're still down

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Any of you guys

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:57 PM

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aight

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Has any of you solo'd the EDD?

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:58 PM

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I can help if you really want swoo but i only have engi promo'd, and i can promote my gunner rn but i dunno if i can play it well enough

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Yeah thats fine, i can play as other classes

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:58 PM

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I heard solo you spend too much time running around

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But there's no spitballers on 2nd spawn when solo

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 4:59 PM

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If you want, you can host

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Since uh, i assume you're gonna get a high ping if you joined me

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Oh, i'm also in canada

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I can play with like 80 ping but anything higher is gonna be rough

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Nah you host, i'll deal with the lag issue

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With me having failed EDD like 10 times already despite at least 8 of them being me the host with 0 ping, i really doubt having a laggy ping is gonna affect my performance that much

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 5:04 PM

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k i posted in lfg

wraith shard Sep 30, 2019, 5:59 PM

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@jaunty walrus I solo’d the first elite deep dive I’ve ever done a few days ago. I went into Iron Will a few times but always got healing from vampire or red sugar before I fully went down. It was challenging but ended up still being easier than I expected given that I didn’t expect to even make it past stage 2.

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Sorry for the ping Mega I clicked the wrong name lol

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 6:02 PM

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nah it's good

jaunty walrus Sep 30, 2019, 6:14 PM

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I really feel like i lost more than i gained

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even though i finally completed it

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Ah well, nontheless im satisfied....

bold nebula Sep 30, 2019, 6:33 PM

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so what do deep dives give ? i did some and after that checked the forge and i had nothing new ? can you only get something every week=?

wraith shard Sep 30, 2019, 6:34 PM

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You get one set of rewards per week

opal oak Sep 30, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Is it one set per normal deep dives, or one each for normal and extra-hard deep dives?

sweet flame Sep 30, 2019, 7:16 PM

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whats the reccomended strat for the EDD?

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been looking at it and was bit unsure of what to do

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 7:19 PM

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solo with driller dderp

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like me

wise sphinx Sep 30, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Find a good team is both the easiest and hardest strat

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

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bosco is the only teammate u need!

fast kettle Sep 30, 2019, 7:40 PM

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I finally mamaged to solo with gunner on my 3rd try

harsh mountain Sep 30, 2019, 7:43 PM

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@opal oak one set each

fast kettle Sep 30, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Call me crazy, but I found the first EDD mission harder than the final mission

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 7:48 PM

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I agree on that point.

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Mactera are to be respected.

fast kettle Sep 30, 2019, 7:49 PM

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And it didn't help that I had to put up with it a bit longer because I had trouble locating the morkite

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 7:50 PM

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kaizen, do u use the revolver or smg on gunner?

fast kettle Sep 30, 2019, 7:50 PM

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revolver, with aoe for swarmy bois

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 7:50 PM

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so u run minigun with it?

fast kettle Sep 30, 2019, 7:50 PM

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yeah

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If I can shoot it with smg, i can minigun it 😆 😆

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 7:51 PM

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truth

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hot bullets or cold as the grave?

fast kettle Sep 30, 2019, 7:52 PM

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hot bullets

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 7:52 PM

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nice

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last question: which nade?

fast kettle Sep 30, 2019, 7:52 PM

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Most of the time, clusters

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 7:53 PM

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For gunner?

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 7:53 PM

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yeah

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 7:53 PM

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On EDD I would take a cold as the grave mini + flame nades + a bulldog built to 1 shot web spitters and mactera

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 7:53 PM

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and holy its winda

jaunty basin Sep 30, 2019, 7:53 PM

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Cluster is awful

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 7:54 PM

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cluster can be useful stage 2

jaunty basin Sep 30, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Incendiary is way better and doesn't team kill

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 7:54 PM

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but it isn't necessary

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flame nades are for stage 3 to deal with swamers

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 7:54 PM

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i personally use incendiary since its instant and kills all the swarmers

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 7:54 PM

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if you have the accuracy, it can also deal with mactera

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gotta hit one dead on

fast kettle Sep 30, 2019, 7:54 PM

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I dunno man, i use nades for crowds so both do the trick

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 7:55 PM

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best cc is death

fast kettle Sep 30, 2019, 7:55 PM

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PREACH

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 7:56 PM

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i am pretty sad that all the unstable mods i got r all for scout...

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 7:56 PM

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hot bullets isn't good for EDD

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 7:56 PM

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my least played class

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 7:57 PM

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too many spawns on stage 2 to avoid overheating

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cool on kill is much more sustainable

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and stage 2 is mainly a matter of attrition

fast kettle Sep 30, 2019, 7:59 PM

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That's a fucking good point

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 7:59 PM

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thats true. i personally havent solo with gunner yet

fast kettle Sep 30, 2019, 7:59 PM

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I didn't think too much about the build, I'm just a dps slut

hollow flower Sep 30, 2019, 8:00 PM

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I can't play gunner without the cool on kill, doesn't feel right

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Failure on stage 2 is mostly a snowball that starts with the gunner not killing grunts fast enough

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that causes the sentries to not be able to clear the jellies as they get stuck targetting grunts too often

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then the jellies stunlock you while the exploders come to lick your anus

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 8:01 PM

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and thats why driller is best. aoe for daaaaaays

fast kettle Sep 30, 2019, 8:01 PM

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heat aura on driller?

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 8:01 PM

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driller don't have the range to keep most of the cave clear

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 8:01 PM

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yup

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i run the pistol with accuracy

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so i didnt have that much trouble

tender axle Sep 30, 2019, 8:15 PM

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? am i the only one seeing OC slots in mobility and support weapon slots?

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oh it's probably a bug, it's literally on the flare too

brittle relic Sep 30, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Flare overclocks when

thorny geyser Sep 30, 2019, 8:19 PM

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7 times i tried EDD, 3 times fucking driller jumped down the pit in phase two

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Good thing driller isn't important on EDD

thorny geyser Sep 30, 2019, 8:19 PM

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two times driller ragequitted, once in phase 2 and once in 3

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 8:20 PM

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lobbies I've been in, we shuffled the noob into driller

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worked out fine

rigid sand Sep 30, 2019, 8:20 PM

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i feel like deep dive normally is way too easy

thorny geyser Sep 30, 2019, 8:20 PM

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goddamn, i just want to get it done

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always some leaf lover jumps down

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 8:21 PM

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are you in NA?

thorny geyser Sep 30, 2019, 8:21 PM

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EU

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 8:21 PM

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rip

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good luck

rigid sand Sep 30, 2019, 8:21 PM

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me 2

thorny geyser Sep 30, 2019, 8:23 PM

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who knew drillers were such dingdongs

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 8:23 PM

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I have no aim, I have no brain.

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You guessed it right, I'm a driller main!

thorny geyser Sep 30, 2019, 8:23 PM

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pretty much

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Look, that's the fate of almost any flamethrower type class.

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You see it in many games. People that can't aim or can't position gravitate towards classes with CC and AoE

vast locust Sep 30, 2019, 8:24 PM

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pepehands

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Winston in OW, Pyro in TF2, Firebug in KF2, it's the same everywhere.

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The class isn't inherently bad.

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But it attracts a particular brand of idiots.

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There are certain people that can only play with a flamethrower or Tesla type weapon.

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Due to certain...deficienies.

fringe kettle Sep 30, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Ah yes, the M1+W class

ancient crater Sep 30, 2019, 8:27 PM

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@feral atlas If you want I can help you with the deep dive

thorny geyser Sep 30, 2019, 8:27 PM

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i had 13 revives, 10 of those driller

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Wrong guy.

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I've already beaten it 5 times.

ancient crater Sep 30, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Sorry..

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 8:28 PM

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You talking to BigLuckKidRss?

ancient crater Sep 30, 2019, 8:28 PM

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I tried but pinged you instead

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Also, yeah, it's the fate of any WM1 class to have the worst players in the population.

ancient crater Sep 30, 2019, 8:29 PM

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@thorny geyser I can help you in the deep dives, if you want

thorny geyser Sep 30, 2019, 8:29 PM

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Maybe a bit later. Im taking a short break.

wise sphinx Sep 30, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Driller
Worst player population
That not what my experience with scouts says

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Scout is tied with driller.

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Any class with good escape options and/or CC tends to attract people that can't play without either.

next pebble Sep 30, 2019, 9:25 PM

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What

burnt oasis Sep 30, 2019, 9:25 PM

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I prefer the engineer, but I'd say the most critical role you need is a scout

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In terms of how much a good player in the position can help

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The light means extra resources, less damage taken, and their builds are flexible in that they can basically shut down any single enemy they can't outright kill save for dreads and bulks

viscid storm Sep 30, 2019, 9:39 PM

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hey friends, where i can ask something about promotion in-the game? (don't see promotion channel) thx.

wise sphinx Sep 30, 2019, 9:42 PM

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In normal channel

fast veldt Sep 30, 2019, 9:49 PM

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@feral atlas bullshit, i have seen bad players equally on every class

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Your mileage may vary.

fast veldt Sep 30, 2019, 9:52 PM

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So you admit its only anecdotal evidence

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 9:52 PM

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I admit that it can only be anecdotal given that there is no way to survey the entire playerbase.

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My evidence is just as anecdotal as yours.

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I can only relate my personal experience that W+M1 classes and classes with "easy" escape options have always seemed to attract the worst players I've seen in multiplayer games.

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Every class provides different incentives to different people.

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Bad players are often attracted to classes with a lower skill floor and easy to use options for survivability. I don't blame them, it's natural. They want something to compensate for their skill level, and something to not keep dying. But on average, when these incentives act on the whole playerbase, that funnels worse than average players disproportionately into specific classes. These classes aren't inherently bad. But they are, for various reasons, attractive to bad players.

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Driller itself is not a bad class, but it is disproportionately attractive to people that can't aim hitscan. Scout is not a bad class, but it is disproportionately attractive to people that can't prevent themselves from falling into pits or getting surrounded.

indigo jungle Sep 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

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that's not anecdotal considering you can't possibly measure that through your own eyes, that's just wild speculation

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anecdotal would be "good drillers are very rare to come by"

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I could speculate that gunners use shield as an "easy option for survivability", and that engineers use turrets because they "can't aim hitscan"

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 10:20 PM

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We've delving into semantics here. Very well. The correct phrase when then be "Excellent scouts are drillers seem disproportionately hard to come by in the games I've personally had during my time in this game."

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The rest of it is theorizing why that is so, if the cause isn't variance.

indigo jungle Sep 30, 2019, 10:23 PM

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I was poking holes pickaxe there is evidence in other games that people tend to not play certain roles, there's a huge lack of support players in Dota/Lol

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but it's motivated by the fact that some roles disproportionately impact the game more than others at certain stages of the game

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Support is unsatifying to play because your enjoyment of the role is so dependant on other players being good.

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Medic is a joy to play when you have a good patient in TF2.

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But when you get your typical pub rabble, it becomes torture.

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People hate that sort of helplessness.

indigo jungle Sep 30, 2019, 10:25 PM

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I've mained medic quite a lot in TF2 and the worst medics stuck to a single person

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even though the game gives significantly more ubercharge by distributing overheal to everyone

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 10:26 PM

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ofc, but that's more of a side effect of how playing med affects a person's psyche

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better players protect you more

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so you get in the bad habit of sticking to them like a security blanket

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and many people start resenting the bad players on the team for not protecting them

hollow flower Sep 30, 2019, 10:28 PM

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The game inadvertently rewards you for sticking with players who are better at protecting you. In pubs it's way better to pocket the top 3 people on your team than juan.hernandez.2009

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Basically, when you get tired of seeing a fresh install waste your ubercharge for the Nth time, you start pocketing better players.

wet orchid Sep 30, 2019, 10:44 PM

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i dunno, im a support main in most games i play and pocketing is generally never a good strategy. Yes I prioritize better players or higher value targets over worse ones, but having 2 teammates is pretty much always better than one, even if one of them sucks.

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 10:50 PM

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It highly depends on the game.

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And how much impact individual performance matters.

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for example, in OW it's difficult to solo carry because so many mechanics (shields, stuns, pulls, etc) can be used to focus down 1 player, and there are too many escape buttons on demand for solo team wipes to happen consistently

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in TF2, a single player has a much greater potential impact because there are no shields, fewer stuns, and very limited forms of escape on damage

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in which case the arithmatic turns out differently; its sometimes absolutely more impactful to keep the star player overhealed to survive a headshot or a stray crocket, than heal 3 other underperforming players, because that start player will actually do something and it's better to keep him safe

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You see this in the final score distribution more often than not; top 3-4 players have the mass bulk of points and kills

hushed mauve Sep 30, 2019, 11:07 PM

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What exactly is the main difference between the basic and advanced deep dives? The videos I've watched aren't very clear on how much they differ and I don't want to go in blind and cause trouble for the others in the mission.

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 11:09 PM

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elite is harder

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generally, you need 2 good players to carry elite so far, or 1 excellent and 1 okay player on the right classes

wise sphinx Sep 30, 2019, 11:14 PM

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this weeks elite has a teamwork check on mission 2 within 1 second of exiting the drop pod

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 11:16 PM

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It's a gunner check

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throw shield, focus spitballers

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rest of the mission should solve itself

wise sphinx Sep 30, 2019, 11:17 PM

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anyone of the classes has the tools to deal with the spawn

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 11:18 PM

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technically, a pheromone would do the same thing

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but the scout can't solo it like a gunner can

thorny geyser Sep 30, 2019, 11:18 PM

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I got it cleared, awesome team.

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Stage 2 was only one where we went down more than once or twice

half minnow Sep 30, 2019, 11:21 PM

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just a question, do any of you know if weapon overclocks will include effects?

feral atlas Sep 30, 2019, 11:21 PM

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?

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what effects?

half minnow Sep 30, 2019, 11:21 PM

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electrick, fire, toxic, radiation?

thorny geyser Sep 30, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Visual, I guess

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They do

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Poison shells for autocannon for example

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Nuke shells for grenade launcher

elfin stone Sep 30, 2019, 11:24 PM

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I have the bigger splash overclock for autocannon, and the effect looks different, pretty big too

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Nice overclock btw, makes you a swarm murdering master

wintry trail Sep 30, 2019, 11:24 PM

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Hello, quick question how do I remove a weapon overclock?

elfin stone Sep 30, 2019, 11:25 PM

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If you only have the 1 overclock, just select it again

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it will remove it

wintry trail Sep 30, 2019, 11:25 PM

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thanks

rancid vapor Oct 1, 2019, 12:01 AM

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has anyone else got a message from steam saying you loged in on a different computer and your progress may be lost if you open the game

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 12:01 AM

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go to bug discussion

rancid vapor Oct 1, 2019, 12:02 AM

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okay thanks

surreal nexus Oct 1, 2019, 12:36 AM

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my elite dive attempt is in gallery lol

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feels very bad

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 12:37 AM

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unless you have very good aim, I would suggest solo w/ engi instead of gunner

surreal nexus Oct 1, 2019, 12:37 AM

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of course i had my run ruined by my fps stuck at going under 10 cause of a power outage interrupting my power hybrid mode on laptop 😦

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well i just gunner at heart not sure i would do any better as engineer

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 12:38 AM

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It's not because of the aimbot

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Pgl just handles mactera better

surreal nexus Oct 1, 2019, 12:39 AM

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imagine so cause it hard to hit the damn things when they evading

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and i having to evade while firing as well

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 12:39 AM

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Just kills faster

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If you want ease of use, use proximity fuse

surreal nexus Oct 1, 2019, 12:42 AM

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ill try engineer but probably not going to survive xD

flint ledge Oct 1, 2019, 12:51 AM

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just went on my first deep dive, and i floated through the drop pod before landing...

surreal nexus Oct 1, 2019, 1:27 AM

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passed first stage one death but second stage did me in

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again jellyfish + acid spitter + exploder combo just do too much damage

vast locust Oct 1, 2019, 1:29 AM

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@surreal nexus need some halp?

surreal nexus Oct 1, 2019, 1:30 AM

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only if u think u can carry meh lul

vast locust Oct 1, 2019, 1:30 AM

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i think so

surreal nexus Oct 1, 2019, 1:30 AM

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also probably think solo spawns are acting as if it was 4 players there

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am going to try the autocannon this time

thorny geyser Oct 1, 2019, 1:32 AM

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AC and revolver works.

heady vigil Oct 1, 2019, 1:33 AM

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ugh

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Sorry to whoever was just in that deep dive with me. My goddamn video card driver just crashed on me

vast locust Oct 1, 2019, 1:34 AM

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feelsbadman

thorny geyser Oct 1, 2019, 1:34 AM

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I got thru first time as engie, using stubby taser and PGL.

heady vigil Oct 1, 2019, 1:34 AM

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Last stage too, almost finished

thorny geyser Oct 1, 2019, 1:34 AM

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Damn, that sucks

heady vigil Oct 1, 2019, 1:35 AM

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I don't know why it happened, played for hours straight with no issues, overhead wasn't too bad.

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I'd blame Nvidia and their driver but I don't know if that's the cause lol

fringe silo Oct 1, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Anyone tried deep dive elite on solo? I'm tempted to do it that way because each team I've played with (roughly 6 tries past 2 days) has not been able to withstand long enough to survive wave 3

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Solo is possible from what I've seen.

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Haven't tried it personally. It's usually a bit tedious.

fringe silo Oct 1, 2019, 1:53 AM

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I almost beat it duo with a friend but on wave 3 there is never a point when you can ressuply late in with no mobs

tender axle Oct 1, 2019, 1:54 AM

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i heard it can be annoying kiting some enemies on stage 2

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but if you're good enough i don't see it being impossible

fringe silo Oct 1, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Hardest bit of stage 2 is the 2 spit ballers and massive hoard followed by exploder wave

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 1:54 AM

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If you're west coast-ish and not terrible, I'm hosting atm

fringe silo Oct 1, 2019, 1:54 AM

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I'm a 3 star driller and I totally would but I have responsibilities atm wont be able to play for a little while

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and west coast (Oregon) cx

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 1:55 AM

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unforunatley, driller is like the least impactful class for this week's deep dive

fringe silo Oct 1, 2019, 1:56 AM

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it made the first wave tough but I got a sick mod for the pistol that on reload it makes all bullets that landed explode combined with mactera mod I can shred mactera faster than any class

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So far my goal with my duo is just speedrun wave 1 without resupply under 10 minutes. I can get 4-ish aquarq in only a 2 minutes with driller and toss em to the mine head

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combine with a morkite drink and its speedrun

spring monolith Oct 1, 2019, 2:01 AM

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I found EDD easiest solo

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After a dozen failed attempts with randoms, I had no problems completing it solo engineer.

blazing cave Oct 1, 2019, 2:02 AM

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same

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Solo has a different seed. And, of course, bosco.

pale ravine Oct 1, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Has anybody figured otu the spawn on the phase 1 huli hoarder?

rotund ivy Oct 1, 2019, 2:27 AM

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wdym

pale ravine Oct 1, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Phase 1 i keep finding Huli hoarder high up, i think it wanders out an absure tunnel every now and again.

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And since hoarders dont spawn naturally...

gusty hemlock Oct 1, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Is it bad luck for a Bulk to spawn on the third stage of Solo and just die because you're within the triangulation zone, can't run and can't kill it before it gets close enough to kill you

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Or is that one of those scripted, guaranteed events

next pebble Oct 1, 2019, 3:17 AM

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If you have electric bullets on bosco and make bosco start attacking it early enough it can help a lot, because of the slowdown

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But no, bulks aren't guaranteed.

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You can also leave the triangulation zone briefly to alter the bulk's pathing and draw it in a different direction

gusty hemlock Oct 1, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Hm, that's happened twice on separate occasions for me and I began to wonder, once with a friend and once just now

wraith shard Oct 1, 2019, 3:19 AM

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It’s better to draw it away and lose charge than just letting him nuke your defence point

gusty hemlock Oct 1, 2019, 3:19 AM

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True

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I almost got away too, got killed on the cusp of the explosion

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Anyways thank you for the advice

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It's bound to happen again so to know what to do is valuable

wraith shard Oct 1, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Bulks are a threat to the unprepared

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And bunkers

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 3:23 AM

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just dig your way out of a bunker

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its not like bulks are stealthy

gusty hemlock Oct 1, 2019, 3:24 AM

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I'll note that they do tend to kinda appear

wraith shard Oct 1, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Still, bunkers are a horrible strategy and gives bad habits

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 3:24 AM

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bunkers are a great strategy

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i dont see how they're horrible

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its lazy as fuck sure

wraith shard Oct 1, 2019, 3:25 AM

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Yeah you are using the terrain for your advantage, but for people who allways rush bunkers, they usually have issues fighting crowds, as a rule of thumb

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 3:26 AM

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yes and so they do what they can to compensate for their weakness

left current Oct 1, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Yeah, the double Breeders on stage 2 of the EDD is a little ridiculous. Breeders literally never stop spawning babies, so it's always a constant stream. At least nexuses spawn in waves. With how the entrance of stage 2 is set up the breeder babies can IMMEDIATELY come to you and your group. It's a little too much.

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 3:48 AM

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double? It's only 1.

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 3:48 AM

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get the engie to use his turret

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its the best for breeders

left current Oct 1, 2019, 4:14 AM

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There's been two breeders every run I've tried of the EDD.

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:19 AM

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is this elite or normal?

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I'm legit confused because I have never seen 2 breeders in stage 2 of the elite

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or you're talking about something that isn't the breeder; the breeder is the blimp looking thing that spawns the floating jellies

vocal bronze Oct 1, 2019, 4:23 AM

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they mean a brood nexus

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:26 AM

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I'm guessing that too

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but I need to be sure

frigid whale Oct 1, 2019, 4:33 AM

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much ouch tried the elite with some friends got past the first part when we realized all you had to do was snipe the macteras and run like crazy

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then get to the second level and immeditely get mobbed by 30 bugs 2 spawners and a shelly

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\o/ pain without end

wraith shard Oct 1, 2019, 5:05 AM

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ok

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i have gotten 17 matrix cores, which i think is the maximum amount that one can get so far

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i play gunner

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only 1 (1) of those was for gunner

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life is very hard right now

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my friends all have overclocks but i have mustache

wraith shard Oct 1, 2019, 5:31 AM

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Are you implying moustache was not worth the effort

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dstare

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I went through an elite dd that i failed 3 time just to get a moustache (i losed it at the time by laughing histerically)

covert heath Oct 1, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Anyone want to attempt the EDD? Had a good run on EDD2 but had some bad luck with the exploders

left current Oct 1, 2019, 6:52 AM

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I've literally had 2 breeders every run for stage 2 of the EDD. We enter the big room outside of the drop pod landing zone and there's two floating around every time.

wraith shard Oct 1, 2019, 6:53 AM

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Two is not that bad

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Four is fucking terrible 😀

prisma rover Oct 1, 2019, 7:22 AM

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The second mission of the elite deep dive was quite painful but the rest was alright.

tender axle Oct 1, 2019, 7:25 AM

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maybe it's just the games i played before this but i'm really used to dying like 8+ times in a mission and still calling it a standard success as long as we get out lol

lyric pike Oct 1, 2019, 7:55 AM

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I think im doing something wrong as Engineer in EDD mission 2.

Ive tried both the Stubba and Warthog with both the PGL and plasma cutter.

I dunno if my perks are bad or if my builds are bad but my teams always get wiped in the 2nd mission.

So any tips from other Engies to get through this Elite deep dive?

tender axle Oct 1, 2019, 8:04 AM

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Uhhh

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Get your scout to shoot spitters

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Anddddd, i dunno build for ammo, you're probably gonna be there a while

zinc fog Oct 1, 2019, 8:05 AM

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Any point to digging into Glyphid Tunnels?

next pebble Oct 1, 2019, 8:05 AM

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nope

zinc fog Oct 1, 2019, 8:05 AM

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I used the map and it seems like there might be ....oh.

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I figured there was something in there, like a vein or something.

tender axle Oct 1, 2019, 8:06 AM

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The only other thing i can recommend is fast revive cause people die, and resupply speed if you really feel like you don't have time to restock

viral crater Oct 1, 2019, 8:25 AM

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I finished all deep dive and weekly core hunt any other way to get a weapon overclock?

tender axle Oct 1, 2019, 8:37 AM

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crafting stuff in the forge gives extra cores, but they can be either an accessory or an actual OC depending on what it shows

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other than that not really

zinc fog Oct 1, 2019, 8:42 AM

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Found a flashy, glowly container.

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Can't link a picture.

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But I can carry it, but not deposit it.

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Oh, it's a battery. Neat.

tender axle Oct 1, 2019, 8:44 AM

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it's a battery ye

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if you find another one there should be a loot crate somewhere

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you can use em on that

zinc fog Oct 1, 2019, 8:45 AM

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Oooo.

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Got a skin.

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And a lot of gold too.

hexed crater Oct 1, 2019, 12:06 PM

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Anyone has tips for elite DD stage two

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We manage to wipe the spitballers and stuff but end up being overrun by the grunts
Hard to take them out with exploders all over the place

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I haven't got past the first room yet

harsh steppe Oct 1, 2019, 12:37 PM

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I soloed it as scout, but the mobility was probably key there. I tried using the exploders to my advantage, stayed in the pod to begin with.

indigo jungle Oct 1, 2019, 12:41 PM

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will you take a look at modifiers and difficulty?

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a stage 2 with Shield disruption or Lethal bugs is much harder than a stage 3 with Rich atmosphere or Low Gravity, and both of those scenarios can happen

hexed crater Oct 1, 2019, 12:48 PM

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Yeah I also Scout but problem is my teammates die and I do not have the ammo to solo the swarm :(

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Heck, maybe I should try pheromones?
IFGs are great win-more balls and I absolutely love them but they don't help revives much

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Do pheromones pull everything away like old engi decoys?

heavy wraith Oct 1, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Yeah I have trouble with Stage 2, even when it's just me and my friend and some things don't spawn
By the time we get 2 eggs and get to the mini mules the swarms quickly overtake us and that's it

frigid whale Oct 1, 2019, 1:02 PM

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yeah

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tried again with my friend stage 1 is a breeze if you just snipe the macteras with the not garand then stage 2 happens @_@ spawners are the most evil thing I have ever encountered

heavy wraith Oct 1, 2019, 1:03 PM

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Stage 1 is ezclap especially with driller

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Stage 2 with a full group of 4 literally chokeslams you into submission

frigid whale Oct 1, 2019, 1:04 PM

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I appreciate the challenge but holy crap theres too much stuff all at once in that starting chamber so its kind of a crap shoot

heavy wraith Oct 1, 2019, 1:05 PM

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Spitballers: 4 people? Time to reap
Spitballers: 3 people? Ima head out

frigid whale Oct 1, 2019, 1:05 PM

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nothing says I love ya like a bunch of metroids 2 shellbacks a spawner, 30 odd glyphids, and a whole firecracker string of exploders

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if they could please make a single file line and come one at a time that would be greaaat mkay?

hexed crater Oct 1, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Time to try pheromones and see if all those exploders can go explode in a corner like civilized suicide bombers

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Do pheromones work on the big ones like spawners and spitters?

frigid whale Oct 1, 2019, 1:10 PM

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i kinda wanna try again tbh

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the challenge is fun

hexed crater Oct 1, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Yeah, haven't had DRG kick my buttocks so hard in a while

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The puzzle is fun since the rooms are the same

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every run

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can't wait to get off work

thorny geyser Oct 1, 2019, 1:18 PM

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pheromones work great in stage 2

nocturne dust Oct 1, 2019, 1:43 PM

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@harsh steppe How long did it take you?

harsh steppe Oct 1, 2019, 1:45 PM

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Too long. Died on Stage 3. Spent a lot of time running and grappling.

thorny geyser Oct 1, 2019, 1:52 PM

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i had good unspoken synergy with our gunner

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I stunned swarms with sentry and stubby fire and he took them out

cold lark Oct 1, 2019, 2:02 PM

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so does the toughness of the deep dive give you rarer and cooler rewards? Or are they just randomly given out

nocturne dust Oct 1, 2019, 2:09 PM

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it took me 1 hour 10 to complete it on scout

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a lot of patience kiting, especially after getting a praetorian swarm...

keen lantern Oct 1, 2019, 2:56 PM

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My first deep dive took me an hour and 17 minutes to complete as gunner

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Was fun

sonic monolith Oct 1, 2019, 3:00 PM

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So how are they ?

jaunty basin Oct 1, 2019, 3:00 PM

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@cold lark random

sonic monolith Oct 1, 2019, 3:01 PM

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I havnt really...

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Ive been busy qnd bummed out qnd with less people to play with then ide like

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I should do them on tge weekend so i can get thise sweet overcloccks and skins

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How does redeeming a skin work anyway

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Cause i basically only want one particular gatling skin

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Well one of the attachment things.... The spiky one...

stark pike Oct 1, 2019, 3:05 PM

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the trophy hunter skin? I got mine from a cargo crate

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and which skin it gives is random everytime afaik

sonic monolith Oct 1, 2019, 3:08 PM

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So i just have to get lots of skins and get lucky huh ? ....

stark pike Oct 1, 2019, 3:09 PM

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I guess, that's the only way to get it that I know of. Might be obtainable through matrixes maybe but I don't know

rotund ivy Oct 1, 2019, 3:11 PM

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just cargo boxes

hexed crater Oct 1, 2019, 3:19 PM

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I've yet to find one

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or a battery

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or any sign that they exist

keen lantern Oct 1, 2019, 3:54 PM

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I found one once

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Was cool

rotund ivy Oct 1, 2019, 4:05 PM

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im missing like a few left

fierce garden Oct 1, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Please add a mechanic to deep dives in which if engineer doesn't place a platform under a resource his game is uninstalled.

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:48 PM

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please make a mechanic where if above person doesnt do everything perfectly in deep dives his game is uninstalled.
thats not how this game works

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press z or type to let them know

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Actually, how about in lobby show how many successful deeps dives a person has done

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:49 PM

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thats going to lead to gate keeping

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:50 PM

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gate keeping already happens

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might as well make it rational

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there is only so many times a person can fail before he seeks out a team of account level 100+s

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:51 PM

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better off looking here for good players

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Bunch of region and scheduling issues, from what I've seen.

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:51 PM

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might aswell put in a success/failure ratio to really gatekeep

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must have 75% edd succes or kick

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Sure. But that isn't really all that relevant info, because it doesn't account for individual performance too well.

thorny geyser Oct 1, 2019, 4:52 PM

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r/gatekeeping

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:52 PM

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the only constant in games is you so your ratio would be some measure of how well you do

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see: any team game

hollow flower Oct 1, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I'd very much like to see how successful others were in their previous dives. I don't think it's a bad thing to see how many times people have completed dives

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:53 PM

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doesn't work well with low volume stats like this one

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too much variance

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:53 PM

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just play more

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:53 PM

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you would need a total sample size of at least 100 most of the time to get something somewhat accurate

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:53 PM

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or is this gonna become like wot.
must have 10k games and winrate 60%

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:53 PM

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depending on what you want your p value to be

hollow flower Oct 1, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I don't need to see success rate. Just completed dives

gaunt trail Oct 1, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Number of times downed in dives
You can fail a dive and have only died once

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:54 PM

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100 completed dives
2000 failed

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sounds like success

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:54 PM

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given the number of idiots in pubs

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that actually sounds average

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:54 PM

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youd need a ratio to make the data any kind of useful

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:54 PM

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average downs per dive would be more indicative

hollow flower Oct 1, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Not really, people who have completed them a lot more are going to typically be better than those who haven't

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:55 PM

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anywhere from 0-3 generally means you win the majority of your dives

hollow flower Oct 1, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Or at least it proves that they can do it

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:55 PM

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or they can get carried

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of success doesnt mean anything without # of fails

gaunt trail Oct 1, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Getting carried still means you go down every 4 minutes

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:55 PM

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getting carried doesn't really affect downs

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where's that screenshot

hollow flower Oct 1, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Yea it doesn't really matter if they get carried, on average they won't complete as many dives as someone who can carry

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:56 PM

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we 100% carried this driller on elite: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/762721962408918277/9A1E15E2266BC299DCE292092671781F649566E0/

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still 12 downs

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:56 PM

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person A: 50 completed EDD out of 60 total
person B 100 completed EDD out of 1000

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person b must have more skill since they completed more

gaunt trail Oct 1, 2019, 4:57 PM

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12 downs
Christ

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:57 PM

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yeah, your problem is that we're never going to reach those types of numbers anytime soon

hollow flower Oct 1, 2019, 4:57 PM

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And how often is that going to happen?

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:57 PM

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1 dive a week, roughly 52 weeks a year

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:57 PM

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assuming people only play once a week

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:57 PM

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assuming people don't take breaks either

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:58 PM

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you can easily have 20-30 failures for edd by now

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Generally, i would expect people to give up by then

hollow flower Oct 1, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Failures isn't a good way to determine it, rather just see successes

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:59 PM

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of success wont mean much if people dont play more than 1 success a week

gaunt trail Oct 1, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Just append your IQ to your steam name
Ggez

hollow flower Oct 1, 2019, 4:59 PM

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It'll still mean more than nothing

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:59 PM

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all it shows is that they did the weekly

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oh look this guys completes at least 1 edd a week

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it must mean they have skill

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Instead of doing ratios, just make all the stats public.

hollow flower Oct 1, 2019, 4:59 PM

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And if they do DDs more than once a week?

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 4:59 PM

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then they play more

hollow flower Oct 1, 2019, 5:00 PM

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There are people who have done it several times

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:00 PM

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doesnt mean they good

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:00 PM

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of attempts, # of successes, # of downs

hollow flower Oct 1, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Generally speaking they probably are

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You don't seem to grasp the idea of correlation

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:00 PM

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you dont seem to grasp the idea of success chance

hollow flower Oct 1, 2019, 5:01 PM

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You must be trolling at this point, if schadenfreude and I can't convince you then you're lost, cya

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Other problem is that the difficulty of each dive will vary.

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A lot.

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:01 PM

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never did i say schad is floating bad ideas

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releasing all stats is fine

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:02 PM

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You can't really get any relevant data from a ratio when you take that into consideration.

hollow flower Oct 1, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Ok champ 👌

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:02 PM

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suppose somebody missed this week's, and next week's EDD is actually haz10

midnight coyote Oct 1, 2019, 5:02 PM

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What setups are recommended for DD?

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:02 PM

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and they keep failing

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regular DD?

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anything more or less

midnight coyote Oct 1, 2019, 5:02 PM

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And EDD?

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:02 PM

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just bring something that can kill a bulk on stage 3

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not anything for EDD

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what class?

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:03 PM

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it would give more than a single number of success which is what zwei is basing his player lv skill assumptions on
i just wanted ratio since it gave more info. all data would be best though

midnight coyote Oct 1, 2019, 5:04 PM

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I'm down for any class, highest are gunner>engie>driller>scout

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:04 PM

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what are you best at

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or rather what is your carry class

midnight coyote Oct 1, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Gunner

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:05 PM

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use mini and revolver take meta builds for first time

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try to find at least one other player to voice chat with to ensure that 50% of the team can cooporate

midnight coyote Oct 1, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Metas are found where?

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:06 PM

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general chat

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actually why dont we have the standard meta pinned

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itll help alot of new players start off

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Use minigun, bulldog that can 1 shot webspitter to the body and mactera to the gut, and shield built for ammo and max duration

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mini should have cold as the grave; rest isn't really all that important

midnight coyote Oct 1, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Has anybody just gone 4 scout and bolted through it?

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:08 PM

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you could
but elims

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:08 PM

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EDD?

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:08 PM

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also finding 4 good scout players

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:09 PM

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scout struggles against jellies

midnight coyote Oct 1, 2019, 5:09 PM

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How large are swarms? AoE autocannon worth?

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:10 PM

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if you have carpet bomber OC maybe

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but from what ive seen its minigun

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depends on your team loadout

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:10 PM

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AoE autocannon underperforms against mactera

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:10 PM

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if youre pug go mini

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:10 PM

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also underperforms against the opening spawn for stage 2; can't burst down the spitballers fast enough before the shield expires

foggy sentinel Oct 1, 2019, 5:11 PM

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I find most loadouts to be a matter of personal preference, Gunner especially

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:11 PM

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It's personal preference, but you still lose if you're not good enough, or your team isnt' good enough to carry you.

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:11 PM

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spit ballers on stagae 2 can be handled with cryo driller and a shield

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but dont assume what other people take

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:12 PM

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autocannon could work, but it has more requirements from the rest of the team than just running minigun

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:13 PM

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really its best to stick to meta for edd unless you have a premade

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:13 PM

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everything and anything can work if you're good enough, or if your team is good enough

foggy sentinel Oct 1, 2019, 5:13 PM

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No kidding

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:14 PM

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but some things are just worse than others; like there is 0 reason to bring a breach cutter to this EDD

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:15 PM

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when edd is too easy

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Autocannon versus minigun isn't nearly as obvious, but minigun is much more consistent in performance compared to autocannon

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I would bring autocannon if I wanted to throw, or was playing with 3 other 300+ account level players.

midnight coyote Oct 1, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Low gravity magma deep dive with macterra swarms plz

foggy sentinel Oct 1, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Catch me dead using the PGL, not until I get fat boy

midnight coyote Oct 1, 2019, 5:18 PM

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PGL is too much fun not too

foggy sentinel Oct 1, 2019, 5:19 PM

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I disagree but I do hold a soft spot in my heart for the grenade-jumper overclock

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Also, I finally got to see the last room of stage 3 on EDD

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somebody said there was like a dozen loot bugs and a horder

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he lied, it was just 5 morkite veins

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a cave leech

wise sphinx Oct 1, 2019, 5:20 PM

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are lootbugs part of the seed

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 5:21 PM

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and a lot of disappointment

midnight coyote Oct 1, 2019, 5:21 PM

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I see you missed the super secret driller only end room 😜

foggy sentinel Oct 1, 2019, 5:22 PM

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You didn't find the hidden error cubes??

elfin current Oct 1, 2019, 5:51 PM

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@midnight coyote Are you trolling?

midnight coyote Oct 1, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Of course, though I wish hidden rooms were a thing!

wraith shard Oct 1, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Tomorrow is new Deep dive, right?

brittle relic Oct 1, 2019, 6:22 PM

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I believe so

fallen galleon Oct 1, 2019, 6:24 PM

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tomorrow

tender axle Oct 1, 2019, 6:26 PM

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thursday

sturdy glade Oct 1, 2019, 6:27 PM

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wednesday for US, thursday for rest of the world IIRC

tender axle Oct 1, 2019, 6:30 PM

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In Update 25, the two Deep Dives (Normal and Elite) will get a new seed each week (7 days), starting on the launch day (26th of September), and then the first new seeds on the following Thursday (3rd of October) and so on...``` from the FAQ on steam

fringe kettle Oct 1, 2019, 6:31 PM

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The deep dive console says 2 days and 28 minutes

cerulean magnet Oct 1, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Yeah lol nobody gets it on Wednesday

fathom horizon Oct 1, 2019, 6:38 PM

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What is the best perks for driller on the edd?

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Also doing the dd after trying edd is hilarious

cerulean magnet Oct 1, 2019, 6:45 PM

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I don't play a lot of driller but generally speaking you're still gonna want the standard duo of iron will and field medic, run speed lets you outpace bugs and resupplier is good if you need it in a pinch

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Melee stuff is probably pretty good if you take throwing axes

vast locust Oct 1, 2019, 6:47 PM

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i ran iron will, berserker, vampire, strong arm, and weekend althelete when i solo'ed @fathom horizon

fathom horizon Oct 1, 2019, 6:49 PM

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I didnt consider runspeed, I'll try that

vast locust Oct 1, 2019, 6:49 PM

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i would swap strong arm for medic if u r in a team tho

fathom horizon Oct 1, 2019, 6:49 PM

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I only have 4 perk slots right now and I like berserker+vampirism since I use cryocannon and axe

vast locust Oct 1, 2019, 6:50 PM

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i personally use flamethrower

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idk why i feel like the cryo doesnt do enuff for me

fathom horizon Oct 1, 2019, 6:50 PM

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You play a lot of solo?

vast locust Oct 1, 2019, 6:50 PM

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yeah

fathom horizon Oct 1, 2019, 6:50 PM

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That's probably why

vast locust Oct 1, 2019, 6:50 PM

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probably xD

fathom horizon Oct 1, 2019, 6:50 PM

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I understand that though, flame probably does more damage

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I just cant stop using cryo cannon, it's too good

vast locust Oct 1, 2019, 6:51 PM

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yeah and like swarmers r never a problem with aoe heat mod

fathom horizon Oct 1, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Yup fact

vast locust Oct 1, 2019, 6:51 PM

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do u use scatter or aoe freeze?

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shatter*

fathom horizon Oct 1, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I used shatter for a long time but I recently swapped to aoe freeze and Its so good

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Just get in people's face so you can freeze even faster

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And cryo really helps with melee perks

vast locust Oct 1, 2019, 6:54 PM

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right

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so it helps u freeze things faster?

fathom horizon Oct 1, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Hell yeah, and shatter is not that helpful because you usually want to kill all the easy monsters it can shatter for health

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So actually some anti synergy with melee

vast locust Oct 1, 2019, 6:59 PM

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i see

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i used shatter for more ammo economy

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since u spend less ammo trying to kill a swarm of enemies

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since they have a chance to insta die

fathom horizon Oct 1, 2019, 7:03 PM

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True, and less things to worry about in large swarms

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 7:23 PM

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In a 4 man team, you don't want to play driller on EDD

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easiest team comp is scout, gunner, and 2 engis

vast locust Oct 1, 2019, 7:29 PM

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:<

harsh mountain Oct 1, 2019, 7:43 PM

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yeah the mapgen doesn't really want a driller

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pretty small

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first map has 18000 flying enemies you can't deal with cause you're driller

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and low amount of rough terrain

flint ledge Oct 1, 2019, 7:56 PM

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Solo deep dives aren't that bad, I only went down once because of a leech, otherwise they are very possible especially with the engineer

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Though I will say, 20000 credits for a beard is a bit much

charred oxide Oct 1, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Solo dive arn't bad because BOSCO can actually aim at things, and does what you tell him to.

old grove Oct 1, 2019, 8:17 PM

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20k for a beard?

flint ledge Oct 1, 2019, 8:18 PM

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yeah if i remember it right

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leme look

old grove Oct 1, 2019, 8:19 PM

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is that the reward for completing stage 3 of EDD?

flint ledge Oct 1, 2019, 8:19 PM

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yeah

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btw

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the price is 20100

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for a beard

rotund ivy Oct 1, 2019, 8:20 PM

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all cosmetic matrix prices can be seen here https://deeprockgalactic.gamepedia.com/Cosmetic_Overclocks

flint ledge Oct 1, 2019, 8:20 PM

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can we get an option to sell matrix cores pls thx

rotund ivy Oct 1, 2019, 8:20 PM

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only a select few are 20k

flint ledge Oct 1, 2019, 8:20 PM

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well, good thing is

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im not gonna change my looks anyways

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i like my setup

old grove Oct 1, 2019, 8:22 PM

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The cosmetic item you get from stage 3 is still random right? Or have I misunderstood it all

rotund ivy Oct 1, 2019, 8:23 PM

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random

spice cosmos Oct 1, 2019, 8:24 PM

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grrr, i just can't pull off the elite deep dive

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probably my issue is playing with randoms ^^;;

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 8:27 PM

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you generally need 2 good players to pull off a EDD with randoms

spice cosmos Oct 1, 2019, 8:30 PM

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mm, doing it with 0 is probably going to be difficult then

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😛

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 8:31 PM

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It's gonna suck then. You have 2 days.

spice cosmos Oct 1, 2019, 8:31 PM

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oh jeez! i do

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wow, time is passing

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i managed to get the weapon overclock at least

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so its more of a vanity thing at this point

dark bridge Oct 1, 2019, 8:41 PM

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@rotund ivy No images for cosmetics ?

rotund ivy Oct 1, 2019, 8:42 PM

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there are no nicely prerendered models of them

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and way too many to add (im lazy)

mental wagon Oct 1, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Question: what are the 3 "Open Slots" below the character level in menus for?

feral atlas Oct 1, 2019, 8:57 PM

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classes of the rest of your team

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if it's empty, you're alone

mental wagon Oct 1, 2019, 8:58 PM

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thx, never noticed that

rotund ivy Oct 1, 2019, 11:27 PM

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@young oyster you get everything you find inside the deep dive for every deep dive. Cores rewarded from completing each mission is only rewarded once per variant, per week.

young oyster Oct 1, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Aight bro thanks

fringe silo Oct 2, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Anyone doing Elite Deep dives? Rep 3 driller here just wanna knock it out asap

wise sphinx Oct 2, 2019, 12:13 AM

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what does rep 3 even mean

fringe silo Oct 2, 2019, 12:13 AM

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Promoted to 3 stars

wise sphinx Oct 2, 2019, 12:13 AM

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of what color

fringe silo Oct 2, 2019, 12:13 AM

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at lvl 25 you qualify

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ah just the first

torn horizon Oct 2, 2019, 1:00 AM

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Do deep dives have normal minerals in it? Or just gold and nitro

rotund ivy Oct 2, 2019, 1:01 AM

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there are no crafting minerals but hooli hoarder can spawn

spice cosmos Oct 2, 2019, 1:57 AM

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woohoo! i finally beat the edd!

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😄

feral atlas Oct 2, 2019, 1:59 AM

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wait

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were you in my lobby?

nocturne dust Oct 2, 2019, 2:10 AM

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pro af

hollow iris Oct 2, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Only like, a whole day till another dice roll

snow inlet Oct 2, 2019, 4:46 AM

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LFG for EDD

upper ginkgo Oct 2, 2019, 9:20 AM

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what difficulty is Deep dives elite on? is it compareable with haz5? At least the last stage of it?

rotund ivy Oct 2, 2019, 9:24 AM

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4.5 to 5.5

wraith shard Oct 2, 2019, 9:26 AM

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Also add more mutators

harsh steppe Oct 2, 2019, 9:42 AM

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that's some of the .5

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:39 AM

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Is there a gallery of cosmetic overclocks yet

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I don't wanna spend tons of materials and credits crafting every single one having no idea what they even look like

clever crest Oct 2, 2019, 11:41 AM

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their availability rate is so pitiful that resource drain is negligible anyway.

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as in, even a very casual player can cough up 15K and some colour change a week.

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:42 AM

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tell that to my nonexistant supply of croppa

clever crest Oct 2, 2019, 11:42 AM

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ye, croppa is a bitch, admittedly.

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:42 AM

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I have 7 overclocks I can craft only 1 of

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because it requires no croppa or jadiz

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0 croppa 20 jadiz

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:(

compact raft Oct 2, 2019, 11:43 AM

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I have tons of croppa, but I'm always running out of pearls.

clever crest Oct 2, 2019, 11:43 AM

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shroom bogs 4 life.

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both green rocks aplenty.

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:43 AM

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If I find a skin in a treasure chest do I have to craft it

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or is it a straightforward unlock

clever crest Oct 2, 2019, 11:44 AM

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no, it just is

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:44 AM

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I've yet to see a chest since U25 dropped

clever crest Oct 2, 2019, 11:44 AM

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dunno, about 1 in 3 missions has it.

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:44 AM

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W U T

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I've done tons

compact raft Oct 2, 2019, 11:44 AM

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They aren't guaranteed to spawn, so you may have been unlucky.

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:44 AM

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Never seen one

compact raft Oct 2, 2019, 11:45 AM

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Sometimes they're in out of the way areas, too, so if you rush the objective, it's easy to miss them.

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:45 AM

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And I'm that one spastic scout that explores every last corner

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I don't rush the objective ever lol

clever crest Oct 2, 2019, 11:45 AM

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weird. we're done about ten or so in last week.

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:45 AM

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even took my time in elite deep dive

clever crest Oct 2, 2019, 11:45 AM

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best thing is, even if you fuck up a run, the unlock remains.

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:45 AM

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I only left a bit of gold because we were getting seriously overrun and I was running of nitra to spam pheromones

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do they spawn more often in hazard 4/5?

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I've been doing quite a bit of Haz3 since a friend got the game recently so I've been easing him in

clever crest Oct 2, 2019, 11:46 AM

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and in v25 haz5 insanity fucking up a run is easier than ever.

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not sure about how chests spawn under h4.

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:47 AM

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could I in theory just load solo missions, speedrunning the area for a chest, then suiciding

clever crest Oct 2, 2019, 11:47 AM

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maybe lower, but that'd be unfair.

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:47 AM

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to farm skins

clever crest Oct 2, 2019, 11:47 AM

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ye, should work.

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but not sure it's worth it.

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:48 AM

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Might as well since my luck with RNG systems is so garbage

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Or might've been that invisible chest bug LOL

clever crest Oct 2, 2019, 11:48 AM

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should be fixed now.

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and it's for joined only, not the host, afaik.

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:49 AM

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legit yet to see one

clever crest Oct 2, 2019, 11:49 AM

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so at least one person should have been able to see the chest.

hexed crater Oct 2, 2019, 11:49 AM

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not even seen those batteries

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nicht, nada

clever crest Oct 2, 2019, 11:50 AM

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they always spawn near each other.

compact raft Oct 2, 2019, 11:50 AM

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For a given value of near.

clever crest Oct 2, 2019, 11:50 AM

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linear, ye

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can be in another tunnel

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having a yellow dude helps

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as it always does

simple pumice Oct 2, 2019, 1:36 PM

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How many hours till the next deep dive

#deep-dive-discussion

of success doesnt mean anything without # of fails

of success wont mean much if people dont play more than 1 success a week

of attempts, # of successes, # of downs