The completion is a lie. It never ends.
#babelfish-lounge
slim verge
small kernel
Hey mira nice to see you
sage tangle
if we get a string update, no matter what, please ping me in discord and steam.
shell vine
Welcome back, Mira
slim verge
Will do @sage tangle
slim verge
So far I got no problem with the translated objectives
It's not plural but heh
at least it's working as intended
sage tangle
anyone wanna screw around in experimental?
look for strings I mean of course 
Also WTH. How often did we have an updated string, now it's missing?
German...
slim verge
Huh
Maybe at this point, just try restarting your game ? idk
Wouldn't surprised me if you could broke the UI by constantly switching languages.
sage tangle
you can't break it
the string is broken for all languages, including french. Reported it to #experimental-bug-discussion
even after game restart (I tried, eventhough it's not necessary)
slim verge
Yep, and also, it's the same for all pickaxe parts
except the paintjob
The patchnotes as well is still not translated apparently ?
Common point from all those translated strings : They are 7 days old at best
gotta check the most recent ones
shell vine
As I pointed in the exp bug report, these strings are reuploaded every time (for some reason), but they build the game again right after the upload (less than ten minutes in between), meaning they add them again to the game before any one has had any chance to translate them. And since they get reuploaded everytime, the translation from the day before never gets in.
sage tangle
please tell me there's a discussion on crowdin about pulling that auto logoff back
it logs me off more than my online banking, its SO GOD DAMN annoying
small kernel
๐ you're funny guy mate
solid bough
I was about to multitask sending out the crowdin rewards and writing the messages, but seeing the autologoff is as aggressive as it is, I might wait a bit
sage tangle
๐ค
gray arrow
I think there isn't autologoff on crowdin
sage tangle
I'm a bit dismayed that we did not catch the mission objectives in english on experimental build
gray arrow
@shell vine is it the page itself or your browser?
I use Brave and the session is always on
sage tangle
brave?
Firefox, don't be active for a few mins and it logs you off
wicked scroll
you're the bug!
shell vine
Brave as well, and it asks for a relog after a couple minutes of inactivity, all pages concerned on the browser. I tried with two browsers open at once, kicks me out as well.
sage tangle
Quite a few languages are now at 100% or very close to it. Was this all the last months user activity, or did GSG already help out with bought translator studios?
shell vine
I'd say the last couple of month's activity
slim verge
Some languages did get a bit of help
small kernel
In turkish just me and e.ray finished, this was a little difficult huh
sage tangle
what does 'a bit of help' look like?
slim verge
Dunno, I just know Brazilian got some help apparently
Or he's actually getting some help
sage tangle
I just realised, on OpenRCT2 the bottom center part of the hud is missing except when I get a message, did I somehow overlook a setting to permanently enable that part of the hud?
latent wadi
Ermm? there is an auto logoff???
I never ever got logged out,
Might have something to do with my Firefox extensions.... My guess would be Privacy Badger, since it is made to prevent unwanted tracing and cookies by blocking and killing heaps of cookies and tracing tools
sage tangle
NOOOoooooOO
They changed the language order in the options menu. Now I can't just click 5x to the right for french
EN > Finnish > French > German it is now
latent wadi
that's just alphabetical order
gray arrow
kek
leaden delta
hey all <@&427586299185070101>
we will do a last Crowdin sync tonight pushing strings from the launch build into crowdin
and then wednesday morning, we will pull the latest Crowdin data and update the game
fair warning: the 1.0 patchnotes have been extended with a LOT of bug fixes so they are quite a bit larger than the first version and the top text has been rewritten
if you want a fast version in, then maybe just translate the top text and let the bug list stay in English
latent wadi
thanks for the heads up Soren !
shell vine
Thanks for the warning @leaden delta
By the way, using the role ping in a modified message will not actually ping the people targeted
latent wadi
(The patchnotes are mine azerty ! don't you dare steal them from me)
jaunty niche
ok
limber yarrow
rushes to crowdin to copy the 1.0 patch notes before it gets deleted
sage tangle
Thanks for the headsup Soren ๐
limber yarrow
yeah! thanks, Soren!
warped whale
Thanks Captain!
wicked scroll
Thank you Soren!
slim verge
Thanks Soren !
sage tangle
Guys, you know what?
There's a new string ๐ฎ
It's called...
Guys, the new string, it's called
Fee
๐ฎ
small kernel
wow ๐ฎ
sage tangle
Community Terminal is finally in there with it's own strings
Oh, and very important
New Planet Zone ๐
limber yarrow
never seen that new planet zone string before
sage tangle
What is it? Where does it go? ๐
limber yarrow
no idea ๐
wicked scroll
@sage tangle it's babelfish, not spoiler
unless i'm completely missing the joke
shame on me in that case
signal prism
I smell blood in the water
I gotta hunt for strange new lines in the sea of strings
gray arrow
I think I found some missing strings, need someone else to confirm
should be on the console that you use to change your union chapter
shell vine
They just added them to crowdin
small kernel
They just added them to crowdin
@shell vine Deep dives instructions strings are still missing I guess
shell vine
Seems so :(
boreal quest
A really quick question: the <h> and </> is just a marker for a highlight, yes? So if I can put a value and a highlight in the same structure I don't need to use more than one.
So, "floating for X seconds" in the translation I am doing.
Given that the thing allows it.
gray arrow
as long as you open and close the correct marker it will highlight it, its not string dependent
but if it wasn't there in the first place i would recommend not to do it
boreal quest
All righty. It's just that the way my language works and the value and the perk ability kind of goes next to each other.
sage tangle
Posted the Deep DIve Instructions as missing string to #experimental-bug-discussion
again ๐
@mossy egret New Patchnote strings - wurden erneut รผberarbeitet ๐
boreal quest
By the way, how may I acquire the community translator role? Been doing it a while and I am still just a regular ol' dork.
signal prism
@boreal quest ask jacob, when he is writing in this chat
Which he will nost likely do, cuz the launch preparations
boreal quest
It's all good. No rush.
signal prism
I just translated all mission name words into Hungarian. It was long, to say the least
stable raft
undone swallow
empty core
limber yarrow
This is the channel for translators c: you can ask in drg-chat
small kernel
in this sentence Easy peasy, lemon squeasy! "squeasy" should be "squeezy" guys?
small kernel
already marked, iIrc
@shell vine you added to list "recieved" mistakes?
shell vine
yes (I stopped updating the ones in the pinned messages, but I transmitted the list to a dev directly
+crowdin updates
small kernel
oh okay this is good
boreal quest
From what I gathered, "chapter" comes from a biker slang and it means "The local entity of a larger club."
So it's like a team or group.
small kernel
union like team, group and chapter like part
sage tangle
I used fraktion
shy pivot
I know what it means in english
It's more like a branch and the such
But I'm struggling to find a similar meaning
shell vine
The word has a similar meaning in french, so we just used the french word for chapter.
gray arrow
In spanish we changed chapter for branch
latent wadi
to be quite frank, I don't like the use of "chapter" in french
but hey, that's the source material
slim verge
At the same, Chapter makes me think of 40k
Which is fun, when you know that dwarves in DRG's universe are basically SWAT-like mercenary
That comes from orbit in a drop-pod
I mean, that's oddly familiar ๐
wicked scroll
yeah but we don't have local chapters
just local unions
sometimes called "antennae" (branch)
gray arrow
it depends on the language and context I suppose
"chapter" is used to refer to books, series and the like
but for something like unions it would be branches
that would be for spanish at least
how many hours do we have left until 1.0?
wicked scroll
less than 24h
iirc, soren said they are going to ship a last translation tomorrow morning
latent wadi
correct
wicked scroll
time for a last pass i guess
latent wadi
- cough * * cough * bullet hell * cough * * cough *
latent wadi
You're one of us Mist, should you want it or not, deep inside you're a boomer.
embrace it, i'm making a BBQ
latent wadi
you know the normie way of the term, but know this, it's a state of mind... but I digress
Man i'm kinda sad they trashed all the patchnotes
wicked scroll
imagine all the words count dropping down
how many words you have left LeFrog? 200-300?
dense valley
Hey guys, is someone know, how translation process will change after 1.0?
latent wadi
it doesn't
I no longer qualify for 30K reward since the deletion of the patchnotes
woooooo
wicked scroll
damn
wicked scroll
btw, they are not deleted
dense valley
Ah, ok, that's nice
latent wadi
i hope I don't get rused... I was really hyped for that T-shirt
still, they do not count anymore
slim verge
Hidden patch notes doesn't count as "translatable" in the whole thing since they are hidden but the translation is still here and done.
That would be sad if it didn't count ๐ฎ
latent wadi
when I look up "my contribution" it is 36k overall...
But looking up the "user list", it went down dramatically. I'm very worried
dense valley
Luckily i saved my translation for previous patch notes in a file
latent wadi
Memory Translation can retrieve these if the need arises ^^
gray arrow
Im at around 32K words
what are the tier prizes? I have no idea what do we get for each tier
solid bough
The patch notes aren't counted? That's not fair.
wicked scroll
we don't know for sure, but the numbers on "my contribution" and "top translators" differ
"For the word counts on crowdin, the top members count the amount of english words translated, and the 'target words' column counts the amount you wrote in your language."
from azerty
latent wadi
then i'm at 28k now, should this be true
gray arrow
oh wait
wicked scroll
well, no tshirt for you LeFrog
you shouldn't have deleted those patch notes
but i'm pretty sure Jacob made the list before the patch "deletion"
dense valley
I missed something, is there some kind of rewards for translation?
wicked scroll
yeah, for 10k, 20k, 25k, 30k words
one copy, 3 additional copies, the 2 dlc, a tshirt respectively
gray arrow
If they send me something on the mail I'm fucked
I recently traveled back to my home with a government permit
the police comes every few days to check if im home
and customs in Argentina is quite shitty
latent wadi
sounds like a hassle
dense valley
As i recall, developers already rewarded us when we made translation 2 years ago, at the start of early access. I thought that's all
gray arrow
but its part of the coronavirus lockdown mechanism
the downside of getting a travel permit is that the police will make sure that I'm enforcing the quarantine
sage tangle
Please fight each other in the french discord. Or at least record the baguette-brawl, I wanna see it
gray arrow
if I'm not home or they can't reach me via phone they will put up an arrest warrant for endangering society
fun times we live in
wicked scroll
@sage tangle who and who?
sage tangle
According to Jacobs announcement, 1.0 will hit tomorrow at 3 PM UTC (meaning in 20 minutes and 21 Hours)
And we all will cry because the instant we'll boot the game we'll notice a little typo which was always there and should have catched our eyes earlier ๐
latent wadi
what kind of madman puts minutes before hours?
sage tangle
It's a me
wicked scroll
sounds american
sage tangle
Urgh how could Seph translate the patchnotes, I'ts already a pain reading through them for proofreading. SO MUCH TEXT
slim verge
I can tell you what's even worse than translating them though.
latent wadi
nothing
translating puns is a walk in the park compared to doing the wall of text the pathcnotes are
slim verge
I've done both translating and proofreading. But nothing beats the sheer pain of having to rewrite the whole thing after someone messed up the layout and did shit translation.
chicken intensifies
sage tangle
Let's ping all devs and complain they should fix less so the patchnotes are not as long. Do it Pounce ๐
latent wadi
ohhh the chicken incident... oh my oh my !
slim verge
@sage tangle after you good sir 
latent wadi
go on, we're watching...
sage tangle
I'm shy
solid bough
the number I am using to determine the rewards are from May 4, though 
boreal quest
Rewards?
sage tangle
Jacob, sorry for bugging you, but will you get it out before 1.0 hits? ๐ฎ
PM stiny
heady ermine
If only I had more time to translate a couple of months back this would be double the size
small kernel
when is this string displayed? I never see this in game
heady ermine
I can't even apply for a flag/specific channel as a translator ๐ lol!
slim verge
@small kernel My guess is the new tutorial ?
dapper quarry
if i remember it's the tutorial hint the first time you carry heavy object
latent wadi
it is.
small kernel
Okay I found it
boreal quest
I require a quick help. "Complete Crafting Mastery Levels {value}"
Is this to reach a certain level or to complete a number of levels?
small kernel
complete a number I guess
shell vine
complete a certain number of forge levels
boreal quest
All righty, thanks. The TM was off a bit, that is what made me question it.
mossy egret
Urgh how could Seph translate the patchnotes, I'ts already a pain reading through them for proofreading. SO MUCH TEXT
@sage tangle The secret ingredient iscrimetime!
solid bough
@sage tangle maybe, why?
sage tangle
you know we're not doing it for the money, but to look stylish when 1.0 drops would be neato :3
I mean even more stylish than we already are, obviously
dense mountain
I dunno how to legitimize it but I think it would be cool to put the most ambitious proof readers on the alpha testers, credits roll?
sage tangle
No, jacobs nightstand, but thats secret phsssh
small kernel
This perk removed from game?
shell vine
No, it's still there
small kernel
I can't find this in game or I'm blind
shell vine
It's called friendly
The image is a an arrow that bounces back
in the passive perks
small kernel
ah there okay I found
small kernel
yeah why?
I wanna ask something, in the "info strings for Steam UI" page string I changed some words but not changed on the steam UI why?
shell vine
Probably not updated by the devs.
limber yarrow
Probably, yeah
Because they do update from build to crowdin and viceversa
But steam is another thing
small kernel
I changed 2 month before
shell vine
@solid bough Could you pass the word to whomever updates the steam UI and the achievements to update for 1.0 ? We have a couple changes that need to go online.
honest jungle
Me: Hm, why not translate the game?
Also me after seeing my language still has over 38.5k untranslated words: https://media.giphy.com/media/LRVnPYqM8DLag/giphy.gif
shell vine
Which one ?
sage tangle
@honest jungle
Which language?:)
buoyant dagger
idk why but I'm thinking hungarian
sage tangle
Czech
honest jungle
@sage tangle Indeed, Mr. Detective
buoyant dagger
honest jungle
I mean, you were just 2 states away so... Close enough, I guess?
shy pivot
So I decided to catch up to things and make a first attempt in translating patch notes
I think I'm gonna pop a vein if I translate "Fixed a bug" any more
sage tangle
solid bough
@shell vine poked Soren about it
sage tangle
Wait you mean they were not automatically updated? Good thing I just did that yesterday
You guys working late today?
honest jungle
@shy pivot Best way to survive that - think of a banger, fire up The Eternal Jukebox, start the music there and enjoy. And... well... work, of course ๐ค
limber yarrow
still got 5k words left
@shy pivot should have done what Soren suggested lol
shy pivot
What was that?
I blinked
I'm not quite up to date with everything moving about these days
@limber yarrow what'd he say?
shell vine
if you want a fast version in, then maybe just translate the top text and let the bug list stay in English
Soren
limber yarrow
yep xD
shy pivot
welp, ain't going back on 3k characters left
honest jungle
How ok are the devs with sort of own text/translations? ๐ค
shy pivot
Gonna have to be slightly more descriptive on this one chief
shell vine
The general idea is :
- Keep the meaning
- Try to keep the humor/joke
- Try to keep the rythm of the sentence
shy pivot
^
Basically
Since it's different cultures and all that, translating word for word can sound severely off or out of place.
If it's voice lines, try to make it sound as if it's coming from an actual human rather than a broken AI.
shell vine
The general idea is to make it first sound good in your language, then to make it sound like the game, then to make it sound like the joke in the game.
And the biggest priority is always to make it sound good and natural in your language.
honest jungle
Right. That's basically what I tried. Good then. I specifically make the dwarfs "speak" in a completely informal way, while the Management (and other texts in the game) are completely formal. Which in itself is somewhat drastically different from the English version where more or less only formal version exists. But it makes complete sense.
I also asked because of the patch notes. I used the recommended solution of leaving the bug fixes in English and added a custom "in-universe" explanation why the rest is English. That being:
"NOTE: We're sorry that the rest of the patch notes aren't translated. Management of Deep Rock Galactic refused to pay us for our previous expedition into the mines, so we're rebelling and began protesting. But don't hesitate to join us! We'll never refuse more colleagues!"
So we'll see if that's ok ๐
(Just doesn't make sense to have one half translated and the other not without some explanations, is all)
shy pivot
Don't forget to translate the explanation as well ๐
honest jungle
Well obviously it's translated already ๐
honest jungle
Thanks. It's another experience, I figured, so why not
shy pivot
"Added [insert native language] to list of supported languages"
Makes me giggle with excitement like a mf
shell vine
Also, your explanation should be ok, but we can also ask @solid bough to validate it (couple messages above)
honest jungle
Obviously it can be changed to absolutely anything, I just feel like it should be explained somehow. And I tried to make it sound in-universe, kinda funny... Just the way DRG rolls, I suppose ๐
shy pivot
@limber yarrow Are all patch notes this chonky on the "bugs" category?
shell vine
Nope, they were all removed from the game
shy pivot
Wdym?
limber yarrow
I don't understand what you mean by this chonky on the "bugs" category xD
shell vine
Apart from it
limber yarrow
you mean if most patch notes have a lot of bug fixes in that category?
shy pivot
Yes
limber yarrow
probably xD idk ๐
we translated all previous patch notes entirely
even the old 1.0 patch notes before it got deleted
shell vine
just hidden, not deleted
limber yarrow
I did a copy but since they added even more bug fixes
it would take a lot of time to look which ones were added
so we did what Soren suggested instead
shell vine
Send me both, I'l make a comparison file
limber yarrow
but it's in spanish
shy pivot
Fixed an issue that caused controllers to trigger signout changed warnings when disconnected
Can some1 explain this?
Is there a comma missing there or am I not understanding what it's talking about?
honest jungle
Depends on what "signout" is supposed to be
honest jungle
The way I understand it, they fixed an issue where "signout changed" warning appeared/triggered itself when the controller got disconnected. But... I don't know what "signout (changed)" is meant to be :/
Unless it's something too Xbox for me to understand ๐
honest jungle
If I really had to translate it somehow, I'd just say they fixed an issue where unwanted warning appeared when the controller got disconnected
limber yarrow
fixed an annoying warning popup when controller disconnects
honest jungle
It's possible the signout is reffering to a user. As in when controller gets disconnected, it says the controller got disconnected and then it also says [user] got signed out or something. Probably if there're two controllers connected at the same time, each connected to a different account or something
shy pivot
Any easy way to pinpoint where I may have missed \r 's ?
shell vine
Nope, you'll have to re read everything
limber yarrow
that's kinda bugged
sometimes I checked the entire thing and there's the same \r s
but crowdin says there is a few missing
shy pivot
^
limber yarrow
๐ค
limber yarrow
I think it may be because sometimes a line is longer when you translate it and the text ends up in 2 lines
and maybe crowdin takes that as 2 separate lines?
idk, I'm not a scientists
shell vine
No, crowdin counts the \r
sage tangle
you're just doing patchnotes for your wordcount ๐
shell vine
why the s, there's only one.
small kernel
any screenshot for this string? I've never seen it on community terminal
shy pivot
Naah, my word count was fine and dandy. Just wanted to get some mates into the game as well.
small kernel
Nice to see you back @shy pivot
shy pivot
Pshh, don't get used to it until I'm done with the month of June.
Exams gonna vibe check me soon.
solid nacelle
any screenshot for this string? I've never seen it on community terminal
@small kernel apparently there is a short period after the time when the community challenges runs out where you can change your chapter, this is the Change Period (source: https://www.deeprockgalactic.com/miner-community-faq)
sage tangle
You can force this by deleting your savegame in experimental (make a backup)
small kernel
period like a session I guess?
sage tangle
I love proofreading.
When one translator is not paying attention:
Invert Incapacitated Camera X-axis
becomes
'Invert retarded Camera X-axis'
small kernel
lol ๐
honest jungle
916 translations suggested so far. This will be a long, long journey
shell vine
You just did 10%, congrats !
wicked scroll
Nice work buddy!
honest jungle
Oof. I know it was meant to sound encouraging, but 10%... Oof! ๐
wicked scroll
that's huge
shell vine
Man, 10% in one night, you are on a good path there.
wicked scroll
it takes months to translate everything at that stage
sage tangle
We should release 1.0 more often, all of a sudden translators slaving away everywhere
honest jungle
2 nights, actually. But I'll take that
Man, 10% in one night, you are on a good path there.
small kernel
Good job! keep it work mate
limber yarrow
We should release 1.0 more often, all of a sudden translators slaving away everywhere
@sage tangle there better be free beer for us at the space rig after this or we riot
wicked scroll
if we get a tshirt everytime, maybe
small kernel
free beer from me to you fakiyo
leaden sapphire
@honest jungle keep it up! One big step in a great direction, you should be proud of yourself.
sage tangle
||I don't drink :3 ||
limber yarrow
me neither, I want some red sugar juice instead please
small kernel
okay then I will buy a fruit juice
honest jungle
We need Translator's Reward Ale in the Abyss Bar right now. PRONTO!
small kernel
wicked scroll
Question for anyone doing a crunch right now,
For a long time, the heritage of the savage hill-dwarves has been a topic of hushed conversation. Now...they are back!
what's savage? the hills or the dwarves?
sage tangle
The savage dwarves of the hills tribe
it's basically a made up english compound word. Compound words add up two words, in this case location (hill) with a dwarf. So the adjective describes the dwarves, while hill is just another description inside the name itself
Savage Dwarves, which originate from the hills
Ah, compound words โค๏ธ
sage tangle
it would also apply for hill dwarves
latent wadi
up until now, the four of us have been polishing all the names and descriptions of all the vanities
what a night
sage tangle
So, corrected patchnotes are up
I'm done for now, off to bed
I know exactly stuff will spring to mind when I'm lying in bed -_-
latent wadi
so true
sage tangle
God damnit opens crowdin
short abyss
My night was spent studying for 2 tests lmao
But
I managed to translate things i found hard before
sage tangle
Updated all promotion texts and biome descriptions. That's it, bed NOW
mental mountain
heya, peoples
just a quick question, does anyone know if there's a need for a czech translator?
I find myself willing and probably able to help out, but somehow lost since I have no idea about the state of that particular translation at the moment xD
sage tangle
@mental mountain you're lucky, just 2 days ago @honest jungle joined and started. You can team up and finish it together. ๐
You can find everything you need here
https://crowdin.com/project/deep-rock-galactic
And ask Honzas or any one of us more experienced for guidance ๐
mental mountain
thanks, I'll try to look around to get the gist of the system later
sage tangle
Currently Czech is at 42% (if you do not take into account patchnotes, 100% ingame text prob. equals 82% for that number)
mental mountain
and ask if needed
wicked scroll
@sage tangle what do you mean bed? there's work left to do
sage tangle
I just don't know how to spend the time tomorrow until release
and actually what devs do... they put in the last hotfix, pull crowdin, compile.. and? what happens the other 5 hours until release? I'm really curious about their workday sometimes (ofcourse they have stuff to do, the point being we have no idea what they do)
sage tangle
Just as I suspected.
gray arrow
You can rest when you're dead
limber yarrow
dense vine
dont want to sound like im ratting someone out but im reading the translated stuff in my native and at least two users straight up copy paste stuff from google translate.
dense vine
i guess thats what you get for not paying for the translation, lol
shell vine
@dense vine Nah, it's more what you get when some people get overenthusiastic about finishing the translation, and nobody commiting enough to it to do it properly. You always give a hand, and can even replace these texts yourself if you feel motivated, just go there => https://crowdin.com/project/deep-rock-galactic
dense vine
i would, but free labor is just bleh for me
shell vine
Then don't diss on the ones that took the time, even if the quality of there work is sub-par.
dense vine
copy pasting it directly from google translate is worse than doing nothing mate, sorry.
slim verge
No it's not. Not everyone can read english. So even if it's badly translated, it's always nice to have something and it might push people to help in the future. I did come here to help with the French translation because she was bad. Had she been well translated, I would have not been there at all in the 1st place.
It's fine to not be okay with "free labor", everyone's got opinions about that but I'm siding with Azerty there, don't trash up on people that at least try to help.
Well, sometimes help is not needed, because you already have people working on the whole thing but when that's not the case, I really think it's better than nothing.
limber yarrow
Still helps, the translation may not be of high quality.. but still helps
because someone else can just fix it
I had a guy translate all the patch notes with google translate
you can imagine all the time I spent fixing those
slim verge
The only things I really dislike in bad translation : bots and people messing with the layout in the patchnotes. Because bad translation is not an excuse to those.
Yeah, you spent time fixing those but I think translating them from scratch is even longer.
warped whale
In my case, I didn't like those auto translate things, so i started translating, because it was too intrusive to play.
limber yarrow
I started translating because I saw so many mistakes in the translation while playing the game
it was pissing me off XD
one thing even stood there for like 7 months
slim verge
^ Basically what I meant : it pushes people to come help with translation ๐
small kernel
sometimes they break my translations too, he never played the game but he does random translations
dense mountain
copy pasting it directly from google translate is worse than doing nothing mate, sorry.
@dense vine
Doing nothing is the worst thing you can do, mate.
Imagine its a chinese game and you translate it into broken english I can at least comprehend whats going on, on Chinese I am simply lost.
latent wadi
I started kinda for the same reason as Lark.
Mistakes that were constantly ticking me off.
sage tangle
@dense vine
Which language again?
And funny I thought I was the only one translating out of spite
I bet Jacob makes fake accounts and Google translates languages he wants to get worked over to trigger native speakers
Stonks
leaden delta
Localization text for Achievements has been updated in Steam backend
should go live soon
shy pivot
Woop woop
@leaden delta Nervous about the following couple of hours/days? Or feeling quite confident? ๐
sage tangle
Yes, now get back to work, hotfix will drop soon
leaden delta
@shy pivot mostly just excited!
but I still need to press the right release buttons and hope everything works
and that makes me a bit nervous
sage tangle
[Release] [Delete game]
leaden delta
heh, when we released in Early Access, I managed to press the wrong button for the Store page update and delete all the preparations in the backend!
so we had to input them again real quick!
shy pivot
The ship is in the water. Just gotta slap the wine bottle on its side and it's good to go!
sage tangle
Yeah please don't do that to my favourite game ๐
dense mountain
1.0 has 80gb just to get that fine triple A feeling
latent wadi
Godspeed lads !
sage tangle
going with the experimental, the update has 500-600 MB IIRC
@dense mountain hattest du keine รbersetzungsschnitzer mehr gefunden? ๐
dense mountain
Soll ich jetzt auf deutsch antworten? ^^ unsicher
I am sometimes not sure if some stuff even needs another suggestion because of consistency its quite a few words to get the hang of it
sage tangle
like? ๐
dense mountain
I will provide something later, another question, the translation project goes beyond 1.0 right? So its still evolving?
sage tangle
yes.
GSG still gives new updates after 1.0 with new content, we'll keep translating it
You wanna join the horde?
dense mountain
I am already in
sage tangle
more
sage tangle
MORE
dense mountain
NEW PLANET ZONE
shell vine
Don't forget the pickaxe parts
dense mountain
Shaft
honest jungle
๐
dense mountain
But now seriously if we get an english term like streamer or spawn where german words can be quite long and strange how should I translate? Keep it english? Translate at all cost?
latent wadi
mostly
shell vine
The basic idea is to try to translate it anyway, and to change after you can see in-game what it did
@latent wadi that's spoiler material thanks
sage tangle
Depends from case to case
dense mountain
So its ok to try to find a working translation?
sage tangle
fรผr streamer?
latent wadi
there is a bit of "frenchization" involved
dense mountain
Yeah
dense mountain
So we translate in common sense?
latent wadi
frenchization is a miracle : STREAMER = STREAMEUR
sage tangle
I hope we translated everything in common sense, yes ๐ฎ
buoyant dagger
welp, time to delet france I guess
latent wadi
you know what's missing in streamer Tater ?
U
that was a pun... should I really explain it
honest jungle
Streamer - Streameur sounds like Homer Simpson wearing a moustache trying to look like a different person
sage tangle
๐
latent wadi
kinda
honest jungle
Exactly fakiyo
dense mountain
Also word spawn is quite problematic because for played spawning is fine but for enemies especially bug like can spawn be translated in schlรผpfen/laichen
sage tangle
you mean to spawn on the spacerig, the 'Viewer X has spawned Enemy Y' or you mean the brood spawns?
dense mountain
Yeah atm most of these are simply spawn regardless of context
But I need more time to get into that
honest jungle
Yeah, some of these more minute things are a nightmare to translate
sage tangle
I'm more concerned with long and explaining texts
I wish somebody would lift the cross of bringing the damn weapon and mods thing in order
I made it comprehensible when I started as it was a total mess, but it's still not very stringent so to say
honest jungle
Also, general question - since someone already mentioned his/her language is mostly translated via Google Translate - how do old translations get updated into the game? I mean, most stuff translated in Czech before I came in was technically wrong (as names in Czech have only the first letter capitalized, not the first letter in every word, and fixing that is pissing me off :D), so I updated most of the texts and... Do they get updated as well, as in does the newest translation get into the game, or do they have to be specifically (re)approved, since it was translated already? Czech doesn't have a manager, so there really isn't approving
sage tangle
It works like this:
No translation (red): Original english stays in
First translation (green): gets in automatically with next build (made by devs on patching)
Now next layer:
You think an old translation is crap and put up yours. Both have 0 votes. The newer one gets in and overwrites the old one
Another guy reads through it and thinks god no this new translation is horrible, and upvotes the old (1) to new (0 votes)
Leads to old one gets in again
A wild proofreader comes along and thinks 'Christ what BS' and puts his proofreading checkmark on the 0 vote translation > overwrites everything
so
no translation < Any translation < Newer translation with same votes < Higher votes < Proofreaders checkmark
thats the priority crowdin checks.
If you change anything on a checked translation (green checkmark symbol) it wont influence the next build of the game at all. For that reason you have a 'ISSUE' comment to bottom right, where you can check a box to alert the proofreader. He'll get a PM on crowdin reading
'Honzas dares to disturb your slumber and question your skills. Do you want to squish this puny being?'
honest jungle
Oof. But I get it, thanks. That puts my mind at ease knowing that my efforts translating the old stuff wasn't in vein. Because MY GOD... was it terrible at times
sage tangle
there has to be an active proofreader though
honest jungle
Well, proofreader sounds like an extra step I don't need right now. 99.9% of the translations have 0 votes, since no one bothers, so that's good
dense valley
Are you sure about new translation taking priority over the old one with same votes?
shell vine
Absolutely
sage tangle
@honest jungle I looked up the history of all czech activity, there has not been a proofreader activity since at least a year back to may 30th 2019
shell vine
Crowdin will bump the translation that will be taken into account at the top of the list under the text box
dense valley
Well, i should check them again then. Some strings appearing in the game are definitely old ones, with new, more accurate translation available on CrowdIn
sage tangle
Proofreader would make the bar green (mouseover > 0% proofread)
Congratulations @honest jungle you're responsible for czech on your own now
gives proofreader hat
Beer bottle
shell vine
There are some strings that are duplicates on crowdin and in game, check with the ctrl+o to be sure of which one it is.
honest jungle
shell vine
@frozen inlet Could you give the cz-translator role to Honzas4400 please ?
dense mountain
@sage tangle about weapon stuff you mean all mods descriptions?
sage tangle
Beschreibungstexte, aber auch techinische details und namen, stringente รผbersetzung รผber alle Waffen hinweg fรผr Rate of Fire, usw.
I already did quite a lot of it, but not from the ground up
dense mountain
Ok any advice if I wanna deep dive into it?
frozen inlet
aah we dont have one for cz guess i'll make one
gave him general translator for now
sage tangle
@mental mountain theres @honest jungle , wanna team up with each other?
|| now kiss||
sage tangle
You're gonna be translator son. You don't have a say in it. As your father was, and your father's father. And you're gonna like it!
Back in my day we had to translate the game by hand with pen and paper. And we had to make up half our words on the go too, as half our language did not even have words until I invented them
dense mountain
Supercalifragilisticexpialigetisch
sage tangle
Oberrheinschifffahrtsgessellschafter
honest jungle
sage tangle
FUUUU
pull back the release, major translation error, game unplayable
Bottom right, 'Kein Reue' is just like Regretn't
Must read Keine Reue
Juuust right
warped whale
is it only koreana have a font missing issue?
shy pivot
man there was a lot of boomer talk in here
latent wadi
FRANG, do you mean that some specific characters are missing for korean ?
boreal quest
Hungarian is missing the ล character. While the character appears it is not in the same font as the rest of the game.
shell vine
Post this as a bug report on Jira (see bug report category for how to)
shell vine
Then we just have to wait for the devs to have the time to adress it.
Has there been any update on the ticket ?
honest jungle
When the patch goes live and you notice a minor but noticeable typo in the patch notes translation https://i.imgur.com/3FBT4n9.gif
warped whale
Yes, person in charge was assigned, and several other font issues were resolved
honest jungle
@wicked scroll I...wrote รญ instead of รฝ at the end of one word
wicked scroll
SHAME
honest jungle
I know ๐ฆ
shell vine
honest jungle
It's even more shameful considering I work with texts professionally. Major oopsie on my part
Ok, so, then, how often are the translations updated. With every patch (or in a different interval)?
shell vine
With every patch, if the devs think about it.
they try to add them to every exp version as well.
remote urchin
So what can we do, if someone after years came back and started reverting our translations into bad things?
He got Proofreader so he just approves his own stuff
wicked scroll
i don't think we ever had the case
send him a pm and try to talk with him about why the new translation is better than the old one
remote urchin
Well I already tried
he keeps being passive and not answer
Yet he just changes back words to english instead of using the correct language form.
Those who are active agreed on it. Yet after years he arrives back and over a night revert everything
๐
honest jungle
Sounds like a thing managers of the Crowdin project should... well... manage
remote urchin
Stiny and me were working hard on the translation. Have our own Phases how the localization will go, and everything.
remote urchin
Who should we contact to take the Proofreader title from him...
Or the translation will end up in ruins
boreal quest
Soren might be the person.
wicked scroll
yep, Soren
wicked scroll
it might take a while sadly
that means a lot of proofreading to do again ๐ฆ
sucks
honest jungle
I really don't understand some of the Czech translation. Like... how... why? Why does someone take their time to write a translation that's both grammatically and factually absolutely wrong? As in... Alpha version of Google Translate-type of wrong?
boreal quest
Square put a lot of money into the localisation of that one.
honest jungle
Don't. Ever. Talk. About. MD
Thank you ๐
What a localization disaster that game is
boreal quest
Who knew that in 1.0 I will not be fighting bugs but the ghost of the proofreader ๐
idle trail
pls i beg you guys change the polish name of driller "wiertacz" back to "kopacz" it super silly and this word doesn't even exist in polish xD
foggy pawn
Can we translate for a new launch trailer?
shell vine
Wdym ?
foggy pawn
NVM a new video doesn't have a subtitles
warped whale
But you can still translating Narrated trailer
gray arrow
Arevthey still streaming?
shell vine
y
mellow topaz
I just noticed that there was a Finnish translation coming
I'd help y'all with it (with me being Finnish and all), but I'm already busy with school and work
mellow topaz
speaking of
how do you get access to the Finnish translator channel? the reaction thing that's in the pins doesn't do anything
gray arrow
@solid bough
shell vine
@mellow topaz You need the community translator for the react flags.
You'll also have to work on the translation before being eligible for the role.
Go there if you want to help : https://crowdin.com/project/deep-rock-galactic
mellow topaz
do I need to connect my crowdin account to my Discord
there are some really interesting unused text strings found here
limber yarrow
No need to connect your accounts
all you have to do is make an account in crowdin and you can start translating right away
mellow topaz
I'm assuming the TM and MT translations are machine translations?
limber yarrow
yep
mellow topaz
I'm doing this, but I never really know what to do with capitalizing names
Finnish grammar says plant names shouldn't be capitalized
but this is a video game, where people are supposed to pay attention to the subtitles
shy pivot
if it's things like brands or proper pronouns (i.e. beer names), you should leave the capital letter in
but if in finnish it doesn't make sense for common nouns to have capital letter in the middle of the sentence, you should probably not translate it with capital letter
wicked scroll
@mellow topaz if the string isn't in the live version of the game, we have a rule to not talk about it in public ^^ I know you couldn't know that
so, it's something not in live version
sage tangle
^Lewd why did you join so late
mellow topaz
because I didn't know there was a Finnish translation
it wasn't until a friend told me that I felt like I could contribute
solid bough
Was waiting until we Finnish
limber yarrow
Jacob the pun master
mellow topaz
anyway
Just submitted about a 100 translations for all kinds of things (though I'm sure I submitted more than that)
That's an hour of my life I'll never get back
limber yarrow
if you translate just enough, you can get it back in form of steam keys
speaking of keys, someone was looking for you about that
jacob ๐
mellow topaz
I can't help but feel like you're bluffing
sage tangle
youre late, the game is out. shame on you
solid bough
Itโs midnight here. I live streamed for six hours. This is the best I got.
sage tangle
seems to me the game sells fine ๐
solid bough
Maybe we will
Nothing planned, because corona
First time in a while there was more than six people in the office
mellow topaz
I love how there's only like three people who ever submitted Finnish translations
Me included
Bizarrely, the others were from like two years ago
small kernel
hey jacob, I sent you a message
sage tangle
sent*
dense mountain
Awaiting data
sage tangle
@dense mountain
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624654251154604052/710268766293852260/20200514010803_1.jpg und
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624654251154604052/710280956342304899/20200514015708_1.jpg
Before it was 'Zone verlassen'
and the actual english name is Driftcrusher
- think thats okay?
- Suggestion for a good translation
and 3. do you actually want to join the #german-drg channel?
found it odd youre here sometimes but not there
dense mountain
Well yeah why not, I am pretty new to the project so I am very careful to just drop unfitting stuff around.
- i think its better it feels more natural less like a game
- Treibhammer sounds fitting
Its also a RL tool
sage tangle
My idea would be
Triebbrecher
mellow topaz
What is the approval process for new translations? As in, what is needed for submitted translations to be added into the game?
slim verge
You just need a proofreader to validate your work afterward. That or the translation with the most upvotes.
shell vine
It works like this:
No translation (red): Original english stays in
First translation (green): gets in automatically with next build (made by devs on patching)
Now next layer:
You think an old translation is crap and put up yours. Both have 0 votes. The newer one gets in and overwrites the old one
Another guy reads through it and thinks god no this new translation is horrible, and upvotes the old (1) to new (0 votes)
Leads to old one gets in again
A wild proofreader comes along and thinks 'Christ what BS' and puts his proofreading checkmark on the 0 vote translation > overwrites everything
so
no translation < Any translation < Newer translation with same votes < Higher votes < Proofreaders checkmark
thats the priority crowdin checks.
If you change anything on a checked translation (green checkmark symbol) it wont influence the next build of the game at all. For that reason you have a 'ISSUE' comment to bottom right, where you can check a box to alert the proofreader. He'll get a PM on crowdin reading
'Someone dares to disturb your slumber and question your skills. Do you want to squish this puny being?'
Fakiyo
slim verge
Keep up the good work and maybe you'll be granted proofreading rights so you can validate your work later on ๐
mellow topaz
Not gonna touch made up words or the dreadnought yet, because the former is awkward to translate to, and the latter has no Finnish substitute.
The only equivalent that I can come up with is "Tuhoaja", but that translates back to "Destroyer."
shell vine
I'm sure they will, every little piece added to the game is good.
slim verge
Or if there's a proofreader in your language, even inactive, you can just PM them to see if they are up for some teamwork, that's even better.
Doesn't hurt to try ^^
mellow topaz
I don't even have the translator role yet, so I don't know who else is doing this.
shell vine
On crowdin, on the main page, you have five tabs above the flags to choose your language. In the activity tab, you can see the activity on all languages, and sort it by person or language.
Should help you to find who worked on finnish in the past or if they are still active.
mellow topaz
๐
sage tangle
Azerty quoting me
remote urchin
Hey guys, I was wondering that there are lots of Strings that are not subtitled in game. Do we have close captions in game? I mean if I enable subtitles and change stuff in the shop or something, the dwarf says things but are not subtitled. ALTHO I remember translating them ๐
sage tangle
@frozen inlet can I ask for @dense mountain to receive the de-translator role please? ๐
dense mountain
pretty please ;_;
buoyant dagger
sage tangle
I asked timmy about it, dwarfurious is asleep or smth ^^
mellow topaz
A grand total of SIX people have contributed to the Finnish translation, and one of them was there just for troubleshooting.
sage tangle
Are you 100% yet Lewd?
mellow topaz
What?
sage tangle
language translation
mellow topaz
Not even close
sage tangle
What were you doing all day then? 
boreal quest
At least your side is having a drama-free time. Enjoy that.
mellow topaz
Drama in the translator community
boreal quest
You better believe it.
mellow topaz
Problem is, I can't even decide for myself on certain things
Because I don't have anyone to discuss creative/cultural liberties with
Some examples:
- If it were real life, Morkite, Umanite and Croppa would be written as Morkiitti, Umaniitti and Kroppa in Finnish. That's awkward and would need a proofreader to confirm. Further still, "Kroppa" is a slang term for your torso.
- Cave leech. Two words that could easily be translated. Problem is, any transliteration would be extremely awkward.
It would be either "Luolaiilimato" or "Luolajuotikas", and neither sounds decent. So I'm forced to be creative.
The only thing I came up with was "luolasiima", which is loosely translated as "cave fishing line", because that's what they basically are.
If nothing else, I'll have to just revert it back to Luolajuotikas. At least that sounds better than Luolaiilimato.
If it wasn't obvious, Finnish loves compound words.
/rant
slim verge
I see the transformation is starting already ๐
mellow topaz
Woo
limber yarrow
Well, if some other people joins the project later on
They can suggest another translation
sage tangle
TBH thats how it always starts, later on its gonna be you who is proofreader anyways
limber yarrow
And if you see that the new one is better, you can vote
sage tangle
so have fun making decisions
for your whole language
Also all your translations sound like Anime Main Characters
limber yarrow
A few people joined for the spanish from latin america and suggested a bunch of new translations
Even some that were approved like 2 years ago xD
light kernel
@shell vine is marking faulty strings as such in crowdin really so ineffective that it's better to contact devs directly?
gray arrow
- Cave leech. Two words that could easily be translated. Problem is, any transliteration would be extremely awkward.
It would be either "Luolaiilimato" or "Luolajuotikas", and neither sounds decent. So I'm forced to be creative.
@mellow topaz try roof leech
I know finnish is an absurdly complex language but there must be a few workarounds
boreal quest
@mellow topaz If it helps, we've decided to hunglify the English terms. The reasoning behind is that not a lot of people will be able to pronounce or understand that they would mean in English.
Some are 1:1 translations that work, some we had to come up with something.
Praetorian became a Guardian, for example.
mellow topaz
I'm assuming that's a portmanteau of hungarian and english?
mellow topaz
oh right, they're anagrams, aren't they
boreal quest
Because there is no way we could come up with something to "ร.S.Z.V.ร.R."
gray arrow
Praetorian became a Guardian, for example.
@boreal quest we had to change guardian to protector glyphid and so on
limber yarrow
Because there is no way we could come up with something to "ร.S.Z.V.ร.R."
@boreal quest jesus
mellow topaz
at least M.U.U.L.I. is easier to make an anagram for
limber yarrow
๐
gray arrow
at least M.U.U.L.I. is easier to make an anagram for
@mellow topaz could work I think
mellow topaz
another thing to wonder
how the hell are we gonna be able to translate Huuli Hoarders?
Huuli literally means "lip" in Finnish!
LIP HOARDER?!
limber yarrow
If any of that just doesn't work, you can just leave it as MULE i guess
mellow topaz
I've kept it as M.U.L.E. for now
boreal quest
But you do need to consult with people, that is for sure.
mellow topaz
I would if there was anyone else
boreal quest
I was SOL for a long time until I got a really nice proofreader to work with.
mellow topaz
the last submission done to the translation that was done by someone else was like a month ago
though there's likely a good reason for it
I didn't even know there was a Finnish translation until yesterday
and even then, a friend told me
boreal quest
He convinced me that if we could have sci-fi and fantasy stuff translated to Hungarian then we can do it in a vidya of a much smaller scale.
sage tangle
@light kernel You can report errors here. Most of them can be fixed by the translation team (us). If it is an error in the base game (english version) we also put it to the Devs, or already did so directly
And we tend to half mark them on crowdin and sometimes summarise them forthe devs so they have it easier ||or we build more pressure ||
shy pivot
@rose siren you mf xD
light kernel
@sage tangle i'm asking because crowdin has an error reporting system, but azerty seems to prefer not using it so i'm wondering if there's any particular reason
sage tangle
Some of the more active translators are in more direct way of contact with the devs and have an okay to contact them directly, esp. now that 1.0 was about to drop (and dropped) @light kernel
1.0 was important to have all issues fixed, and translation had a few issues with the way french and spanish works not working with the provided ingame strings. Normally you're correct, devs should not be pinged, seeing how big the community is. We have an okay from them to contact them directly if needed
(We meaning the translators, Azerty is one of the guys who collects issues over different languages and passes them on directly)
Translators of all languages have their own stuff they sort out within their language, and if something comes up we collect it for all languages, then normally Azerty and sometimes me pass it on in a collected list, so devs dont have to plough through the whole of discord
shell vine
Also, crowdin does have a way to bring up issues to the devs, but the ones managing crowdin are not the ones in charge of the in-game text. All of the strings you can see marked by the 'this string is faulty...' comment in crowdin are also compiled into a list and are transmitted directly to the concerned game designer.
sage tangle
The comments on crowdin are actually more of a thing for ourselves / proofreaders
Damn that reminds me my old sticky list is prob outdated as hell
small kernel
who is the polish translation?
small kernel
One person is suggested this for polish
short abyss
I've yet to find out what the string "is open!" refers to
shell vine
no idea
small kernel
I've yet to find out what the string "is open!" refers to
@short abyss you need this string for translate?
shell vine
@tawdry creek above
small kernel
here it is "is open!" string on shop terminal
buoyant dagger
@gray arrow this would be the place to suggest translation changes
gray arrow
Fine, then i suggest changing the name Wiertacz to "Wiertลomiej" in Polish version of the game ๐
shell vine
Answer @gray arrow directly, I don't speak polish ;)
mellow topaz
Why do I keep putting myself through these things
I should be focusing on other, more important things
like studying, or VR
short abyss
@small kernel thank you :)
small kernel
@small kernel thank you :)
@short abyss you're welcom
gray arrow
@tawdry creek well it is a joke name, but "Wiertacz" sounds weird even though it's correct.
mellow topaz
Another translation headache: bittergems
shy pivot
leave it as is tbh
mellow topaz
The best translation I could come up with was "karvaskivi", and that just sounds like a slang term for a testicle
shy pivot
LOL
str8 up leave the english version
for things like species, gem names, beer names etc
mellow topaz
I'd be fine with that with all the other fake stuff
But bittergem is two real words mashed together
Plus there's a lot of opportunity for beer-related puns in the beer names
shy pivot
If you can do it for beers, that's more than fine
but there's no shame in leaving a few things in english
I could also translate Bitter Gem, 2 words, but it sounds just stupid
mellow topaz
Do you think bittergems taste like sour patch kids
shy pivot
likely
mellow topaz
I guess "sour" is kind of a pseudo-synonym for bitter?
I also like how "greenbeard" had to be stranslated to "wetbeard", because Mรคrkรคkorva (wet ear) is slang for a novice
There's also keltanokka (yellowbeak) from which could come "yellowbeard", but that makes even less sense
shy pivot
real polish vibes
mellow topaz
the translation page needs updating
sage tangle
@solid bough you missed that one, Reddit is up to date I saw ๐
small kernel
this is which weapon?
small kernel
mellow topaz
boreal quest
It's all fun and games until you encounter an untranslatable wordplay.
"Give it time and the Fungus grows on you."
Darn it, GSG!
boreal quest
I will give it a deep think until I am defeated.
latent wadi
I single-handily defeated all the puns in the game thanks to my all mighty super-fucked-up brain
wicked scroll
make a list of plants puns and the such in your language
latent wadi
took me days, it was hard, but no pun no gain
limber yarrow
"Give it time and the Fungus grows on you."
@boreal quest that can be translated into spanish easily
laughs in spanish
sage tangle
I just realised that is a wordplay, thanks
German language <3
Mit etwas Zeit werden dir die Pilze ans Herz wachsen
German figure of speech - somethings 'Grows on your heart' - you get so used to it that you like it
boreal quest
Unfortunately, nothing "grows" on you in Hungarian.
You just "get used to it"
Which makes that pun horrible to try to translate.
Unless fungi "take roots" in you, like thoughts. I will have to play around with that idea.
Craft(able) Beer
๐ ๐ซ
latent wadi
yeah, same issue with french, nothing grows on you, you get accustomed .
You can start over a clean slate if you think you can't stick to the source material. Better keep the meaning and intent than pure translation
short abyss
does "{player} joined the game" string exist?
small kernel
does "{player} joined the game" string exist?
@short abyss no, this string is missing
sage tangle
Craftable beer and corporate issue are the translations which make me the most proud
if I would only have translated those and nothing else, id be happy
oh and golden bugs
those are my babies
boreal quest
My magnum opus is the translation for Not rolling so much now, are you?!
I have been blessed by the gods of language and granted me the absolute perfect, punny translation for it.
๐
short abyss
mine is for "RelAXE" bc i found a play on words that is literally exactly as the translation string and it felt so good
mellow topaz
those puns are going to be IMPOSSIBLE to translate for me
at least it's just a little bit easier to make puns for it if you use the finnish name for battleaxe (tappara)
especially when the word for "to kill" (tappaa) is very similar
shell vine
I think so, not sure
sage tangle
Was there a new build before the hotfix today? Because there's still one
Your union
And the countdown being English even though I saw the strings in crowdin
(before the hotfix)
shell vine
Last build of the project was on the 14th, meaning they did not take the new strings into the hotfix.
sage tangle
Thanks
willow mauve
Hey, I would like to help with the Finnish translation, how would I go forward with that?
The pinned message for the translator channels doesn't have Finnish flag to choose.
shell vine
Go to : https://crowdin.com/project/deep-rock-galactic and make an account, then start translating.
The roles are given after a prospective translator has done enough work there to show they are going to stay.
I believe the other finish translator is @mellow topaz , you can see with him how things are going for this particular language.
If you have some more questions, just ask them here, we are always happy to help.
Good luck, and Rock and Stone !
mellow topaz
@willow mauve were you the one who posted the high-speed grenade launcher post on the subreddit?
willow mauve
No, but that's where I saw someone mentioning that translation help is needed. ๐
willow mauve
Yeah, I'm looking at these and many feel a lot better if we change a bit. Trying to keep the same general feeling of course.
Problem is when you have played things in English forever, some words are surprisingly hard to translate. Like "cooldown" for example, it's never been anything else in my mind.
wild jungle
Yup, me and all my friends just say cooldown when chatting in polish
shell vine
Remember you don"t have to translate everything. The goal is to make the game sound "right" in your language. If an english term for gaming is sufficiently used that it became commonly used, it might be better to leave it as is.
wild jungle
Not czas oczekiwania as its usually translated to
Im actually pretty tempted to help you guys with translating stuff tbh
fickle ivy
polish translation is mostly handled by like 2 people, that I have never seen here. I'm always late to get the juicy strings ๐ญ
boreal quest
The first promotion has the congratulations where you unlock the matrix core mission. There is a sentence in it: It will be a long and tough drill, but you will be rewarded generously with Infused Matrix Cores.
Is "drill" a literal drilling, or drill as in training exercise, or it's a punny combination of both? No comments were left on the string so I thought to ask here.
shell vine
I'd say a pun between both.
boreal quest
Unfortunately I have to choose one. It would imply different things in all combinations. People would actually think that they have to use the Driller for this if I use that word, or even combine the two.
shell vine
The maybe use a word like 'ordeal' instead
It would let you have the difficult part of it at least
boreal quest
"Exercise" would be the ideal one
shell vine
It's not really an exercise... Then, if it would have more sense in your language with exercise, use it.
The final goal is always to get a result that 'sounds' right
boreal quest
All righty then.
shell vine
then you try to stick to the meaning, and finally you try to keep the jokes
boreal quest
If you are in the Finno-Ugric family you cannot mingle with Indo-European boys.
shell vine
:(
boreal quest
But yes, keeping the meaning as close as possible.
shell vine
At least we're all brothers in mining, if not meaning ;)
mellow topaz
The mission name translations are such a chore to go through
So many of them are just synonyms
And you hate to use the same word for multiple mission names because your language doesn't have a direct translation
shell vine
mission type or mission name ?
mellow topaz
Name
shell vine
Would you like the complete list ? I still have the spreadsheet we used when we did it.
It helps to figure out which word were already used.
Also, if your language needs it, you can change the position of the two words that assembled together by changing the "{Mission_name1} {Mission_name2}" (not the exact string, I did these too long ago to remember). Just swap the 2 pieces around to change the order in the game.
mellow topaz
The list is on the DRG wiki
Also Finnish grammar doesn't need those to be flipped
Also I figured that you were French
shell vine
What gave me away ? ^^
shell vine
Oh... I though I had hidden the fr-translator role... ;)
mellow topaz
Be glad the mission names only have a single adjective
How would you turn shit like "big red balloon" to a mission shape in French
Adjectives on both sides for some god forsaken reason
shell vine
one before, one after
would actually work, if given enough time to check the consistency between the lists... Might take some time, though, so don't give the devs some silly ideas like that
sage tangle
new secondary primary objectives and biomes according to roadmap. So 400 more adjectives AND nouns to compensate ๐