A wall isnt a living thing
#suggestions
idle quartz
eager vale
It’s only good against armor because it’s good against armor irl
hollow breach
Minigun is like Flamethrower, except it has no penetration. Instead it has more ammo and range
idle quartz
and is super short range
eager vale
Set a tank on fire and see what happens
idle quartz
minigun is like a sniper 😛
eager vale
Every1 inside burns
mortal peak
a tank is set of fire because it holds tons of fuel
hollow breach
And a praetorian is made of organic matter which burns
idle quartz
shoot them in face with shotgun or magnum^ they die fast
hollow breach
Mouth = Hotspot
idle quartz
face is the praetorians weak spot
hollow breach
so great when you hit it
eager vale
Play war thunder and learn your tanks b4 tryin to our smart me in tanks
idle quartz
flamethrower = ignores armor, but cant crit.
i recommend just setting praetorians on fire and swapping to pistol tho
save fuel
let the DoT do its job
mortal peak
dot?
idle quartz
damage over time
as it is, i think the Engineer was played like 20% more or something.
anyways im going to bed for real o.o dont talk too much or i'll never catch up
wide prawn
Time to get into the laws of engineering
snow bridge
I play driller most now I think. Used to be engineer. Though, I find that I don't have to restock as driller nearly as much as other people do when playing as other classes. I can get just as many kills yet find myself only restocking once to two or three restocks for other classes. It annoys me particularly then when someone has used up a couple of drops, and me none, then when I call in a drop for myself, everyone else grabs it before I do.
I find the flamethrower to be very effective against warriors
well, tbh it's effective against everything on Haz3
you can instantly take out a large number of swarmers coming at you, or a large group of bugs at a chokepoint. The ammo doesn't last that long, but it does pay to be conservative. Perhaps the damage could be toned down a little?
harsh cedar
I wouldn't mind the flames left on the ground to last a bit longer
Trading damage for longer flames on the ground would be amazing
Also it'd be neat if we could spend the big gems on upgrades or something
And or trading big gems between people
snow bridge
One great use of the flame thrower is to put down a line of fire. Any swarmers that go through it are killed and any other bugs that go through are damaged.
snow bridge
that would be neat. A barter system for such things. Also, longer flames would be good. It might be going a little in depth, but it would be cool if you could balance weapons yourself. Trade damage/range on the flamethrower for longer burn time etc. Or shotgun damage / spread for a more concentrated cone / longer range.
snow bridge
Either by attachments (meh) or one of those slider triangles with a point at each side.
true
harsh cedar
It'd be hilarious if we could get a sev 7 where the dwarves are drunk
Screen's all messed up and the controls are funny
snow bridge
have some different dialogue too
that would be great
It's little things like that which make a game particularly memorable imo :D
harsh cedar
mhm
Kinda wish the caves were more randomized though
There was one formation I saw 4 times
Was a bit strange
snow bridge
I would say the randomisation is pretty good. You do get some odd things happening now and then. I suppose sometimes it's like a load of different designed segments that are put together / randomised slightly.
though I see a lot of unique stuff
harsh cedar
I want to see like a pit with a bridge kind of formation
Lord of the Rings style
That'd make for a good time
harsh cedar
mhm
eager vale
I believe I have found something similar
snow bridge
If we get customisation and such, and some of the items are a bit silly, we should have a LOTR / Hobbit theme set
harsh cedar
I want a classic DnD set
Like a double axe instead of a pickaxe
Driller shoots fire like a wizard
snow bridge
Then we can have gandalf in a game to make it extra authentic
snow bridge
Aww, I think he's changed his name to commander now.
devout coral
i think the dwarf would have a medical understanding on a dwarfy level
o you got bitten? we should amputate that leg
screaming
eager vale
Headache? Time to drill in you skulls
harsh cedar
Kinda wish the grappling hook worked like
hallow marsh
the skull ic actually entirely made of beard
harsh cedar
like attaching it to the ceiling and swinging from that point
something like that
Could let the scout get more mobility
eager vale
Yes that sounds fun but kinda annoying
eager vale
Yes
harsh cedar
Actually
hallow marsh
like tarzan but for a sinister galactic mining corperation
harsh cedar
That's a neat idea
We could get togglable upgrades for certain weapons
Like changing the flamethrower to a cryo gun
Sentry to a spotlight or a flame turret
Chaingun to
eager vale
RPG
solid dune
chairgun everyone has somewhere to sit!
harsh cedar
lol
eager vale
😀 but rpgs are fun
hallow marsh
what about an rpg with the same fire rate as the chaingun
snow bridge
It's not quite related... I was playing insurgency and everytime I picked up an RPG I would be shot in the head. If I survived that the next time I equipped the RPG I would be shot in the head... Then other times I would be shot (probably in the head) by an RPG and flung a great distance. Of course then there's the overpressure if you're standing behind it or near the point of impact. Not great for tunnels. Then in general explosives aren't a good idea for use in enclosed spaces.
So, no, please no RPGs...
eager vale
Mini nukes plz
craggy apex
I would love a sniper or a dmr sort of weapon
eager vale
called the magnum
old veldt
Sniper like class would be truly interesting.
idle quartz
Eh i dont think an entire CLASS is needed. I'd like this game to take a more interesting route with its characters.
The Gunner could have a sniper rifle maybe.
he's called "The Gunner", can see him having the widest weapon selection.
wide prawn
Maybe give scout a semi auto rifle.
idle quartz
that too
dont need a scope, just need high damage weapons with good accuracy to pick off threats and hit crit spots.
Magnum would need a little nerf.
wide prawn
Somthing similar to the DMR from Halo Reach
old veldt
Like i like idea of gunner having it.
Instead of pistol
Bcs i just looove the ziplines and with the rifle daaaym.
eager vale
why do you need a sniper
you are underground
less than 50 meters at most
do you want to be useless?
idle quartz
it aint useless, its just not a traditional sniper. Dont need a scope.
Unless the scope was just a piece on the gun that gave a infared display.
It just needs to be an accurate weapon with an ammo-efficient trade for priority targets, i.e. spitters and crit spots.
not a bolt-action rifle 😛
severe dock
In terms of a mid-range scout rifle, perhaps yeah
High crit low base dmg
Definitely no need for a long-range weapon otherwise
idle quartz
Yet, more enemies are obviously planned
but an infared display on a rifle would be really useful.
eager vale
infrared sight minigun
idle quartz
Green Depths easily got over 200m long in some places. When flying enemies make a return it might help. Recoil is still new so we might see more accuracy loss for other guns
old veldt
Like you know a scope with "smart targetting" aka shows you enemies could be upgrade for the rifle and it could have mid range scope.
Like sometimes you get REALLY huge underground.
idle quartz
well since we have no alt-fire, the scope has to be passive
idle quartz
yeah, the little display ontop of the gun.
old veldt
Actually,does someone remember gauss rifle from crysis?
harsh cedar
I want a replacement for the platform gun that instead of firing far away you make a line of foam like frozone from the incredables
That'd be amazing
old veldt
It worked as sniper rifle but better. Could be interesting concept for sniper rifle.
old veldt
^
severe dock
Not for the pickaxe
old veldt
Wait....theres a game that uses some key to bring up tools...but i can't remember...
old veldt
Yea i get what you meant.
severe dock
Just wanted to clarify 😄
old veldt
We dont need crouch. We make bigger holes
idle quartz
rmb could be alt-fire like most shooters ever, pickaxe on hotbar like most mining games ever
Too bad they cant do what Terraria did and have context sensetive buttons for it..
old veldt
Right it was terraria and MC that had this feature.
Pressed either shift or F and instantly tool came up.
idle quartz
but they had more tools than just pickaxes. At least terraria did, i dont play MC.
But MC you could harvest blocks w/ a sword too..
severe dock
In terms of "correct" tools, a shovel for dirt etc., it was a significant speed-to-break thing.
Definitely though, the dwarven on-demand rmb pickaxe feels slick and easy. Lots of other keys for new functions
idle quartz
not a lot of keys, have controllers to consider
nothing will ever be as intuitive for alt-fire as RMB
severe dock
Left shift or ctrl
severe dock
You're already doing it though, by using the rmb as is, to use your pickaxe. Learning a different function for the input
So..
idle quartz
thats not what intuitive means
not that mining is really an activity you need express access too, since its best to mine when you arnt fighting, so plenty of time to select the pickaxe before using it, might even give us pickaxe alternative attacks
teal thicket
All of us forgot about smashing lesser bugs (and bigger ones with some skill) with the pickaxe. And with a separate button/menu/hotbar - that wouldn't be so pleasing (if "usable" at all, in terms of convenience) to "quick smash" a loose bug, or a spitter, who's nearby, but fleeing - to save ammo. Dunno about you, but I prefer killing 90% of the mobs with the "ammo free" pickaxe - it saves Nitra (hence, EXP), and is aesthetically pleasing. 😃
idle quartz
^to be fixed, obviously not intentional that the pickaxe can be used to defeat most enemies like that
teal thicket
That's why, as Sayin said: "pickaxe on rmb is godlike".
idle quartz
And like other broken imbalanced aspects of the game, will get changed, gotta rip those bandaids off
teal thicket
Well, not most of them, ofc, but playing a "whack-a-mole" with lesser ones is a fun experience. 😃
idle quartz
heck putting it on hotbar might also help mitigate the over reliance on it, and thats a good thing
But since the devs are just so used to it, i doubt we'll see it happen. Maybe DRG 2 💔
Then we could get some cool RMB stuff.
teal thicket
I'd suggest leaving the pickaxe as a "main tool", because the game's all about mining, and it's easy (hence, pleasing in terms of own's gameplay) to have a "multitool" instead of plethora of skills/tools/weapons.
idle quartz
As a driller main its all about mining, and i do that mining with the drills. Got quickly used to selecting the drill to do all of my mining.
teal thicket
The "skill piano" - that's what scares and drives me away from other MMO's. And that's the reason I'm stuck at Trove - it has only 3 skills (1, 2, RMB), and a main attack. And, believe me, I'm not alone in that. 😃
idle quartz
this.... isnt a mmo
teal thicket
It's a figure of speech.
idle quartz
So you're saying 5 buttons is overwhelming o.O
teal thicket
5 buttons - nope. A "submenu" with other ones, and the main thing that must be used is hidden somewhere in it - yes.
idle quartz
who said anything even remotely close to that o.o
idle quartz
Yeah nobody wants to open up a menu to swap weapons >< Except maybe on console.
Weapon Wheels arnt so bad on console.
lean haven
I definitely don't want to have a weapon wheel/menu on pc
teal thicket
Firefall turned from an "awesome game about mining minerals and crafting stuff, while hanging out with friends" into a "fps/tps shootah with exp/leveling". And guess what? It died.
lean haven
An equip menu to set them to hotkey bound slots maybe, but nothing beyond that
teal thicket
I honestly don't want it (casualizing) to happen to DRG. ♥
idle quartz
Cant really pin its death on that
it was in development hell for like, a decade
put pvp in, took pvp out
teal thicket
Everyone (including myself) played Firefall for PvE, and that casualizing drove almost all community (sadly, also including myself) away.
lean haven
So I'm curious, what exactly do you see being "casualized" as you put it, about Deep Rock Galactic? As it is, the game is a pve fps, with no crafting. So where do you see it going wrong down the line from where it currently stands?
idle quartz
i think he is just referring to Titanfall
teal thicket
Guns. Shooting. Killing.
A-a-a-and maybe a bit mining.
^ that would be a casual game.
Pic related.
devout coral
why play hardcore or casual when you can play DF it aint hardcore nor casul youll get fuccd on
theres no ending
youll die eventually
teh ones that dont arent having any FUN
short cypress
New df doesn't have sieges as much as 34.11 which is sad.
But new trees are really great.
devout coral
thats why i have old df
and trees are dwarf kidnapping monsters
that dwarfnap someone and keep him prisoner high up to die of thirst
short cypress
The amount of people I have lost to trees might actually be more then sieges.
drifting python
Can U reapeat the Survey because I wan not able to fill it in Time?
devout coral
why are cave urchins seen as enemies by sentrys?
i wanna use em as defense
damnit devs
dafuq
btw update 5 was hardcore on haz 5 becuz youd have to shoot your way or dig your way through an army of glyphids jsut to gain some ground
now its all calm even on haz 5
i dislike this for its lack of !FUN!
inland dove
A melee character could be fun 🤔
light parcel
That is what all say but it probably will be hard to make as a class
inland dove
Not needing ammo would be a great advantage
Although it could be made to need some, by having his weapon need it to , I don't know, be electrified or something like that. Without ammo it looses a big chunk of damage
Another cool thing could be giant worms that dig their own tunels. Not necessarily enemies, just that if you stand in front it will dig your face. Could be fun
short cypress
I think the miner should have a cooler sidearm besides a pistol.
tidal rose
I dunno, I feel Digger';s weapons set is pretty balanced myself
Flamer is very powerful, AoE, but short-ranged. Giving him a good sidearm as well would probably make him OP.
old veldt
Gunner does have high dmg magnum
He could use smthing like uzi as side arm.
Or 2 pistols.
I mean the digger could use uzi or the double pistols.
light parcel
Imo the pistol often feels like a plastic gun to me... Not saying he isn't balanced but he needs something...
severe dock
I think that's just a product of the visual representation of the magnum (gunner), it isn't impressive visually, even if the damage is 10/10
For the digger
It's a literal plastic gun
😄
teal thicket
light parcel
Behold of this gun tho. That is hard to handle
wide prawn
Just give the digger a shovel and a nerf gun
inland dove
i like the digger gun
light parcel
Shovel against Rock solid stone... Sure...
wide prawn
Yep
inland dove
👌
light parcel
Ba...kar?
inland dove
i actually preffer the digger gun to the gunners one
light parcel
Huh..m how so?
inland dove
i dont know, i juts like it more
wide prawn
light parcel
The revolver has a very high damage output and is perfect to quickly get webspitters down the roof
inland dove
i have no problem to get the spiders out iwth the digger gun
light parcel
You will say other things on Haz5
One shot with revolver and probably many more with plastic pistol
light parcel
Expected a Bolter for the revolver :D
idle quartz
Driller basically is the melee guy, and his pistol is functional
almost required for spitters and cave leeches
used to be stronger. But hey it shoots blue!
old veldt
I got blue,now lemme smash.
devout coral
no
slender condor
hi, just a bit suggestion to scout,
i dont find scout a very usefull class, my friends and some stranger would ussually suggest a engie+shooter combo for
engie placing a platform on walls, and shooter placing a hook for us to move on to that platform,
scout's mobility is good an all, but its just not good enough compare the importance/balance of soldier and engie
i suggesst scout would have a gun that revives a player on a certain range distance. like defib gun or adrenalin gun or something...
so that the scout class would be considered to be a "must have" in your team composition 😃
idle quartz
^scouts a much better combo with engi, Gunner has very limited Ziplines and they will be dealt with, wasting them for mining is not intended. Personally i think the lack of real darkness has hurt the scout a lot.
eager vale
Scout is 1 of my fav classes but I main gunner so rip btw gunners that waste on mining, that’s sad
idle quartz
"hey look, 15 nitra, i could probably jump and axe it but HEY ZIPLINES"
eager vale
That’s what scout is for 😂
tidal rose
Or have a driller do it
old veldt
Dont judge playstyles cmon.
light parcel
Who needs pickaxes with ziplines 😄
eager vale
Zip lines are meant for continuous support not for 1 time use
lean haven
several people are typing
idle quartz
look, technically you can mine resource veins WITH BULLETS
light parcel
I have to admit... I have sinned
idle quartz
but...yeah, we'll judge that 😄
tidal rose
maybe let's take crapstorm outta here
light parcel
I have played as Scout with an engineer to be efficient...
tidal rose
not the channel's purpose
light parcel
I have betrayed you, ziplines
idle quartz
Its the over-reliance on ziplines that will lead to their nerf 😛
eager vale
Minigun is the best pickaxe
old veldt
This conversation is leading nowhere...
light parcel
@tidal rose I wish I could say that is not normal...
lean haven
Why can't I launch a zipline while on a zipline?
eager vale
Yus
light parcel
cuz' NO GROUNG BELOW
old veldt
No solid ground
lean haven
I don't need no stinking ground
light parcel
That is just the usual playstyle i play
tidal rose
Hey you were there
idle quartz
betrayl story's go to the #BetrayalStory channel
tidal rose
He just ran off to the pod and left us to die
lean haven
oh then, lol
eager vale
I do that all the time it’s much easier lol
idle quartz
imo it is socially acceptable for the Scout to leave everyone behind and go to the drop pod 😃
lean haven
Moral of the story: Don't trust a drong
eager vale
Sometimes people just want to kill bugs but I just want to get back to my cryopod so I leave them
lean haven
😉
light parcel
That is.. true 🙃
light parcel
.> Da is such an old joke
tidal rose
No less true tho XD
light parcel
You are a very valuable person worthlss in the back, needed at the front
old veldt
If pretorian and other fast shit is on your back
Then its alreciated
To hold itvoff.
Front is clear.
eager vale
All bugs are slower than dwarves
eager vale
So being in the back is just for show
light parcel
When they fall, they fall. BAKAR
eager vale
#drg-chat / #non-drg-chat not suggestions
wide prawn
White beards for christmas
devout coral
wait what about a dwarf fortress syle health system?
a bug thats small bites you in your legs slowing movement
a bug tha large bites in the arms slowing reload speed and increases recoil
get hit too many tiems and you get downed for revive
getting head in the head causes dizzyness and getting hit too hard is intstant down
getting hit in the bod (bod has a lot of threshold) causes arm and leg style injuries or somehing else
near glacier
seems way too complex
near glacier
i don't mean coding-wise
wide prawn
So like fallouts crippling system?
tidal rose
I think I prefer the way it is now tbh
near glacier
just from a gameplay perspective, it'd make callouts a bit confusing
tidal rose
Easier to keep track of
devout coral
but the issue with hp bars is you can get shot 9001 tiems in your arm but a shot to the head is fatal
near glacier
unless the cases were very specific to certain types of enemies
devout coral
in irl
wide prawn
For the kind of game this is I think jsut a simple HP bar is the best option
tidal rose
Yup
near glacier
like 'help i'm being swarmed by spiderlings!', they're small so people would know that they are biting the person's legs and he can't move very fast
tidal rose
I don't need to keep track of 6+ separate health bars thank ye kindly XD
devout coral
people would also watch their teammates hp mroe
near glacier
or having certain types of enemies use freezing/numbing venom so when you call that out you know the person would have slow reloads/fire rate etc
devout coral
and if a teammates been swarmed by smalls the people know hes slower than the rest
near glacier
status effects > separate health bars
near glacier
fallout is a single player game
tidal rose
With far less pace
near glacier
you can pause, go into inventory and check your individual health bars
like i said i'm not talking about the complexity of it programming wise, just the multiplayer aspect 😛
tidal rose
It'd kill the pacing methinks
devout coral
or you can jsut press tab once and see a pip boy style dwarf next to your other dwarfs hp like in teh current version
near glacier
not saying 'they can't do that, we don't have the technology!' 😛
near glacier
and oh, don't get me even started on game suggestions >.> i don't even have access to the game but could spend hours in the suggestions channel. why am i even here?
devout coral
see what they think bout the idea
tidal rose
I already need to keep track of 4 kinds of ammo, drill heat, shields, teammates, and actually be useful on top of all that
near glacier
from what i've seen in the videos, they're going for somewhat clear and concise information
devout coral
if you cant shoot
tidal rose
sigh
devout coral
pickaxe
near glacier
having to press a button to bring up a screen to check your teammates individual limb healths? ...yeah, no
tidal rose
Or Oh look, this is a runnning time. Except I've been crippled and can't have known it until too late
Point is, debuffs and such, sure. Entire separate health bars? Overfeaturing might ensue.
near glacier
you mentioned fallout, which has separate limb health 😛
devout coral
you can make a game near impossible
near glacier
also dwarf fortress
devout coral
dwarf fortress doesnt have any health bars
near glacier
of course it does, just not visible to the player
devout coral
but you can make a game near impossible but there will always be people eventually making it
near glacier
just cause you don't have perfect information doesn't mean that the game doesn't
devout coral
no really no ehalth bars
have you even seen the average combat report?
if something bruises i bruises
but getting bruised 9001 times just means intense pain and if you lose blood because of the bruises death by bloodloss is the result
having your brain bruised on the other hand means instant death
near glacier
the combat report is in-game
after a couple of days on this discord i'm really starting to think you just don't read what people are saying 😅
near glacier
by my logic? or by the fact that i literally said that they do 😛
there is a value assigned, certain points at which effects happen and an upper limit at which point the body part is completely destroyed
this is effectively the same as current HP and max HP
tidal rose
Rimworld has the same system as Dwarf Fortress
It literally will tell you the HP though
(And persentages)
DF simply has that happen behind the stage, but ultimately still has the same math in the system
And without a clue on your condition it'd be even worse
devout coral
when did i say its hidden?
i letrally said
something like press tab and you see the condition of your limbs
anyways
my tiems up
seeya tomorrow
eager vale
I dislike the idea -1
1 heath bar is fine keep it simple this isn’t fallout. It sounds annoying and against most play styles this would derail a lot of people and take away the experience of the simplistic but fun game
Also sounds kinda gimmicky
tidal rose
^^^
It feels quite a bit like what KSH did when they converted jetpacks from energy to H2 fuel
More meters to keep track of were quite a bit annoying
wide prawn
-1 I dislike it
near glacier
KSH?
light parcel
Keen Software House
near glacier
Also, I do like the idea of certain things/attacks affecting a player like the webs causing slowdown etc
near glacier
mayhaps some procedural environmental effects in the map like sludge that slows you, ice that makes your movement slippery etc.
tidal rose
I don't have anything against them, but he's proposing a massively complex system to keep track of
near glacier
yeah.
you know when you're webbed without holding a button and looking in a UI element, same with knowing when you're in poison gas or in a flame geyser 😄
sick merlin
im not entirely sure how often suggestions even get checked, but people often forget the advantages of simplicity
eager vale
Cods downfall was when it got complicated
hollow bronze
I want to suggest to make a way to stock the life ores to use like a med kit for a critical moment
floral fox
I think games like divekick is proof of that games cannot be too simple if its executed well enough
near glacier
and by the same token, a game cannot be too complex if the documentation/information is clear enough to read and easily accessible in-game 😎
near glacier
read the part after the 'if'
i did try EVE recently and...oh boy.
even the tutorial left me more confused
severe dock
No no, I did read it. I'm just saying you reach a point of singularity where too much information is impossible to process even if documented well
😄
EVE is riding that limit
near glacier
even though i can only watch other people play DRG, i can already soak up that in-game knowledge and information and after a couple of videos i was already getting frustrated at my phone screen like 'no, why did you jump down there? 😱 '
devout coral
cuz
streamers and pooptubers are stoopid
but i really dont know who among us is a streamer/youtuber
cough content creators cough
wide prawn
@severe dock Never played EVE but te most complex hame ive played is Hearts of Iron 4
short cypress
Dwarf fortress being complex is what makes it good.
Though I think the fortress mode has suffered because the creator wants the world to be more complex.
severe dock
EVE is lovingly referred to as "Spreadsheet Simulator" in regards to needing advanced knowledge of spreadsheets to keep track of all the information and how it all relates the further in you get.
Compared to the age old pen & paper to keep track of information
There are actual accountants who make a living off doing in-game banking for other players
😄
devout coral
toady (the creator of DF) is actually planning to put a full functional complex magic system in the game
wich is....
big
near glacier
true, i don't even wanna know what that would entail since i can barely play the game properly without weird as shit magic stuff going on 😅
eager vale
eve is pretty fun but i got toasted and moved on
bright flower
i wanted to try Eve i just want to play around and fight in big shp battles
devout coral
i got another idea wich is prolly waaaay too bad for newbies
a mineral
wich is OP in worth
but
mine too greedily
and very pwerfull bugs come to 'protect'their minerals
old veldt
Hmmmm
tidal rose
So long as they're actually killable, I support this idea
near glacier
I feel like that should just be morkite but that's just me 😅
Have morkite or maybe other mission related ores to be some sort of biproduct of the local inhabitants living there. That's why the missions are so dangerous, because mining it would disturb the locals and make them attack
summer field
I'm not sure how much liquid physics there is in engine, having a mineral turn into lava/magma on mining so it becomes a contact hazard that flows through the map?
idle quartz
none and likely never will be =/
near glacier
Rather than include liquid physics, just make it so certain areas have environmental hazards that trigger when you don't mine 'carefully'
Fissures, eruptions, cave-ins etc
summer field
I noticed there was goop when you killed things in the open alpha, and that seemed to flow, though I'm not sure if that was purely client side (like Borderlands's PhysX liquid stuff)?
idle quartz
the blue stuff the spitballer?
summer field
Gems or mineral lodes that only spawn under hazards (Deeptora hives/brood nexi/&c..) so destroying the enemy has a $$$ reward and if ignoring it is an option (hives? spitters?) then it's a risk/reward decision too.
summer field
Green goop from killing spiders? It sprayed on the wall/ground and seemed to slide downhill a bit before fading?
idle quartz
ah thats just blood splatter, a terrain splash
summer field
It didn't seem like a decal though? As much as I watched it, it behaved more like the goop from killing thngs with corrosive weapons in BL2
idle quartz
sometimes limbs come off some bugs and they spray a blood decal, heads too
summer field
Yeah. The detached suicider limbs freaked me out repeatedly :S
Kept thinging the bright orange was a real live suicider :S
nvm, it's a decal, just a really good one 😄
severe dock
Well, in terms of liquids, it's not hard to incorporate a lava "layer" where everything below is a damage zone with a UI overlay if the camera swings below it. The lava itself could be essentially 2D and only displayed while the camera is above with a somewhat simple animation.
But because of the way terrain works, it wouldn't be able to flow, so much as be a false-bottom of the map
I would definitely not mind lava or some other form of false-bottom for some maps if it's appropriate
But from minerals it would be hard to convey without flow
🤔
old veldt
You meant miners
wide prawn
You meant rocks
near glacier
+1 for magma and acid fog and sulfure fog that explode when in contact with fire and also, underground water to drow yourself in when youre dumb
near glacier
<@&257786783666929665> This is sorta Urgent becasue when i try to run DRG via Steam it says im missing a DLL file
I reinstalled
and it didnt work
light parcel
We had that before.
I believe there was something in the FAQ section. Not sure tho.
Let me check
Also... Wrong chat
Damn... No idea
near glacier
I meant to press #bug-discussion
solid dune
@near glacier if you search chat for dll there have been a few conversations about it, here is a link from one of the conversation - https://www.lifewire.com/fix-xapofx1-5-dll-not-found-or-missing-errors-2624318
near glacier
thats not the missing DLL
solid dune
near glacier
thanks
solid dune
you're welcome, hopefully it works!
near glacier
But i also have this other error
solid dune
go talk about it in #bug-discussion 😃
near glacier
I have to wait for an answer?
solid dune
answer for what?
near glacier
on the C++
solid dune
ahh, mmk
errant cairn
This is just something I thought of, kinda dumb in retrospect but maybe make the drillers explosive charge more of a shape charge, to blow door sized holes through walls, instead of a slag ball door
lean haven
Dwarf shaped holes
light parcel
"Press F to pay respect"
lean haven
@light parcel f
eager vale
Ya but the charges aren’t really for digging
tidal rose
Yup, that's what drills are for XD
eager vale
It’s mainly for praetorians
near glacier
i mean wouldn't a shaped charge also do more damage to praetorians :derp:
devout coral
i think those charges are originally meant for mining pruposes like going through normally impassible rock hey gud idea i dont know if they are normally shaped tho
very technical
near glacier
yeah technically you don't need a driller to dig through dirt
but you might need him to break through much harder stuff and gain access to areas you otherwise wouldn't without a driller maybe?
wide prawn
Maybe have a certain rock only drillers drills can go through
near glacier
that's kinda what i was just getting at 😛
eager vale
Lol um no
near glacier
lol um yes
wide prawn
heh heh obsidian? kek
near glacier
yes, the hardest material known to man 😏
eager vale
Obsidian lol you mean glass?
Name a material 2 titanium multi rotor drills could not go through besides maybe diamond
idle quartz
drill with the heat of a million suns !
eager vale
Let the dwarven children learn the way their fathers did by digging with their hands
devout coral
drilling with the heat of the sun means you dig with a nuke wich isnt very effective cuz 2 meters udnerground and your safe from nukes
near glacier
unless you bring the nuke underground 🤔
devout coral
still wouldnt have as much effect as converting the enrgy into detonation packs n doinamite
eager vale
No detonating a nuke underground would create a large hole if sealed properly
snow bridge
Pretty sure that titanium for drilling purposes would actually be rather soft.
though I'm sure that an alloy would be fine
there are more suitable materials
but if weight is a factor
idle quartz
cobalt !
...course, most of those drillbits are for metal not rock
i'll see what Bertha uses
snow bridge
most drill bits are a tungsten / steel alloy I think
maybe a bit of vanadium in there
tungsten carbide for masonry drill bits
idle quartz
sounds like a rock drill would be a tungsten carbide
still thats 'modern'. We need FUTURE drills, plasma drills >: |
snow bridge
hehe
also tungsten carbide would be a great weight to carry around
titanium has a lower Mohs rating than many of the other metals / alloys, but when in alien environments with corrosive substances... and since carry weight would be a factor... an alloy may be suitable. Perhaps there's some element that only the dwarves have access to for hardening their metal? :D
idle quartz
i really hope they add an aesthetic to the drill arms, that has little tubes that keep the drill libricated in coolant.
snow bridge
yee. one thing I've learned about drilling / cutting rock is that unless you want a facefull/lungfull of dust, you want to spray water on as you're drilling it
or some liquid, but that would be excessive to carry
maybe you could have a visual aesthetic with little tubes / vials that feed into it that glow red as the drill gets hotter
idle quartz
thats why i really think the driller needs some cool masks/helmets
idle quartz
as long as the drillers got a little vacuum/catcher under them they can recycle most of the coolant anyways
near glacier
Hats? 😏
wide prawn
As a man who has over 2600 hours into TF2, we need more hats.
snow bridge
not hats as such... practical PPE in the workplace
devout coral
MOAR
pine path
hopefully there'll be more progression like level mastery or an upgrade tree or just more upgrades in general
or maybe encourage a worth buildup like customizing sleeping quarters or host's lobby
devout coral
MOAR BARRELS
arctic plank
More beards
devout coral
BIGGER BEARDS
babies with beards
drop ships with beards
guns with beards
with a beard
proud solar
to many beards. rejected
devout coral
NEVER ENOUGH
proud solar
thats a good meme!
digital latch
I want their to be a graffiti version of Molly, where theirs a beard
proud solar
ok a graffiti beard would be awesome
lean haven
Sharpied on beard
normal cradle
i suggets instead of the timer for the pod saying pod arriving <time> it shoud be pod ETA <time>
dusky folio
Possibly add a mechanic where you can change your equipment lodouts or maybe pssive buffs.
*loadouts *passive
near glacier
Missions where you have to take Gemstones back as well as gold.
light parcel
At least something like this. Looks like super unneccesary but fun
I also feel like a stalker watching a friends Cost raising with every part
near glacier
xD
i feel like crap when i've been trying a challenge/unlock/achievement in a game and discord reports how many hours i've been playing in that one session >.<
eager vale
Lol I have over 1k hours in Gmod so
wide prawn
2600+ hours in TF2
devout coral
pleb
craggy apex
How about an Ice themed map, like you're mining through a glacier...the "rocks" around you are a bit easier to mine, and the map is much more ravine-eee
also...volcanoes
all the lava
I have so many ideas XD
devout coral
it would probably be located at the very south or north of the map
the glacier one
average depth drop would also be lower
glyphid activity would be....
different
tough ermine
idle quartz
😗
light parcel
I think the game is good how it is. Many recourses will probably just get confusing
near glacier
i love complexity in my games but yeah
unless they split it up into rarities and then have us trying to deposit a sum total of so many 'rarity points' worth of ores
instead of just going for morkite and then gold and the uhh red stuff (i forget) for call-ins
light parcel
Nitra you mean?
near glacier
yeee
light parcel
😗
idle quartz
😗
dim trail
Bikinis too, of course.
solid dune
Purple mohawks
eager vale
lol what would that do
craggy apex
Does the lore allow a mission where you'd hunt down like a "queen" bug/monster? Might be cool
old veldt
So we are technically invading Ant Hive colony.
Therefore they simply defend their home.
I like the game even more now ^^
desert canyon
Starship Trooper Dwarves
old veldt
Hmmmm
Rocket launcher for gunner or engineer.
(Probably was said before me)
There could also be enviromental damage.
Like when you throw bomb and explode it stalagmites could start falling down because of tremors and such. ^^
Or is it stalagtites? ._.
desert canyon
^ i was thinking the Dreadnaughts slam-down attack could make stalacites fall and damage players
near glacier
mites go up, tites go down
desert canyon
cite for cieling, gites for floor
old veldt
Even lava idea was nice hut lets face it. This isnt earth.
It doesnt have fiery magma core.
lean haven
We don't know that
desert canyon
^
lean haven
Heck, we don't even know how big the planet is
desert canyon
planet sized
lean haven
We could be barely scratching the surface as we dig
desert canyon
well, take the gravity as an example
how strong are dwarves? how high do they jump?
old veldt
Soo many ideas can be added.
old veldt
They are believed to be quite strong and tough.
inland dove
They could make some fun things with gravity if you go too deep
short kernel
Gotta fly by shooting your gun
pine path
asteroid mining
desert canyon
@pine path theoretically speaking, what dangers would we see?
pine path
not sure. just followed up on the 0g map idea
short kernel
Leeches would still be a massive problem
inland dove
Yea
Spiders could live there but i dont see them being much of a danger if you can simply jump away
eager vale
Jet packs or thruster packs
spare kestrel
@inland dove they would need to be able to jump too then... or fly... (Note to self: make flying spiders)
inland dove
near glacier
the funny thing is i made myself cringe almost into myself by looking up that picture 😱
drowsy cape
@desert canyon Perhaps crystalline entities could be there, normally i see a lot of stories about "Asteroid mining encounters Crystal based life-form". So it's not far fetched. maybe even put in the minerals that once you start mining them they "wake up"
Although that'll be awhile
obviously the stories are fictional btw lol
idle quartz
star control :V
vast jewel
The other day I was talking with a friend about the games difficulty and catering to various players. During that I was reminded of a game I used to play a lot where if you did exceptionally well the game would get harder. Maybe an extra boss, perhaps an extra plot mcguffin to find
Maybe that woupd be a cool feature to add here?
I didn't plan on saying anything but my friend suggested I post it so...here it is :P
gray dune
near glacier
pregante ?
solid dune
@gray dune if you can ask the question in english we may be able to help you
light parcel
@solid dune "I have a question I could answer some moderator"
solid dune
yeah i know i used google translate
and also can kinda read a bit of other languages 😉 but the fact of the matter is this discord uses English as the language of choice
light parcel
oh well
short kernel
preguntar?
lean haven
question?
near glacier
PREGANANANT?
proud solar
psst, whats that mean?
short kernel
pregernat?
idle quartz
...Still want to see a Cave Leech Queen boss 😦
lean haven
More jellies
devout coral
@idle quartz arent cave leeches about stealth?
idle quartz
if they were truly about stealth they wouldnt make noise or lights 😛 heh
short kernel
That’s just game des- evolution.
warm cipher
I wonder how Cave Leeches breed
Is that time me and a friend found a cave with 6 or 7 of them an example?
Should we have studied them instead of killing them?
idle quartz
planted there by DRG
green magnet
eurobeat track on the jukebox
lean haven
Eww
idle quartz
Mattocks, pickaxes, sledge hammers, rock cleaving axes, shovels, and pnumatic jackhammers for future mining alternatives? ❤
idle quartz
haha, dual wield trowels
pallid pasture
all mighty spoon! gold platted spoon! trinium alloy spoon!
sleek ravine
i want to choose the color of my flares
near glacier
what would be cool is if you had collection missions for creatures, you need to collect a certain number, you have to try NOT to kill them, its far more dangerous but you have science labs who give massive payouts. Another game idea is to wipe out swarms, or hives with large groups of players, it would be like a raid 😃
super hyped for the early access guys! game looks great so far 😃
devout coral
maybe the captured creatures could unlock new upgrades that could like have something to do with that certain enemy
research effort gotta go somewhere
short kernel
confirm DRG will have raid bosses?
proud solar
raid?
short kernel
1 single ai enemy that groups of players gotta beat
near glacier
generally requires a coordinated group
short kernel
yeah
short kernel
eh, not quite
close, but raid bosses could take a lot of time to kill depending on the skill of the team
proud solar
👌
nova herald
dreadnaught is more like an area boss than a raid boss
stronger than the small fry but not nearly bad enough to be considered a raid boss
near glacier
from my point earlier, they could make the battle on the surface of the planet, like, amagine a giant sized game of whack a mole, all these holes across the surface, once you kill enough of the bugs bug moma centipede comes along 😬
pallid pasture
that is a great idea but wouldnt fit in the game since were supposed to be mining 1000 meter underground.
i just dont see what the hell we would be doing on the surface XD
on the other hand, the centipede idea would be great underground too. have the damn thing creep out of walls and ceiling, exposing it weakness only when it stops creeping and shows its head to spit a pond of acid on your ass XD
maybe even give it razor sharp scales, so if it creeps too close to you, you take big damage only from touching its back
short kernel
That’s still possible to do underground in a vast open cavern
cunning reef
Yea i think a big centipede would be cool, having it snake around really fast
And make a creepy scuttling noise
rich crag
<@&257786783666929665> Hello 😄 when will it be out or reopen to testing ? 😄
light parcel
Soon™
inland dove
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon
devout coral
how bout a mode where you can have more than four dwarves and with more dwarves more bugs come
instead of mining we are invading hoxxes
wich is a pretty good idea cuz if there were no bugs on hoxxes because of the mining company the company could claim the planet as its own without bugs interferring in dwarven capitalism
rich pollen
molly should try to mimik rock and stone with bleeps if close enough when yelling rock and stone
"bleep bloop bleep!"
velvet arch
maybe add a pubg feature
tropic mesa
@idle blade what do we have to use for translation: direct or indirect speech: in german the "du" vs "Sie" thing? I prefer "du", because its a game.
near glacier
i would prefer the casual way too, are we allowed to use it?
velvet arch
add @lean haven 's pastries to the game as speedbuffs and possibly a funace to cook deep down (Deep Cook Galactic)
near glacier
<@&257786783666929665> please support this idea
velvet arch
lmao
near glacier
how many signatures do you need lmao
velvet arch
at least 50 i think thats a good amount
idle quartz
this seems like a meme more than a suggestion <<
velvet arch
50/50 interpret as you will
near glacier
@idle quartz this is serious business
velvet arch
some of the best ideas start as jokes
near glacier
like pubg lul
velvet arch
like me going to college lol
near glacier
LOL
near glacier
Dwarves need Ale, so instead of cooking how about a brewing system that every drink can give different buffs?
devout coral
they would be temprary and never used except by people who are planning to do a massive raid on grren depths haz 5
near glacier
The abyss bar is already a thing
velvet arch
Oof
proud solar
Oof
near glacier
suggestion: stop pinging the devs with silly meme questions/ideas
devout coral
thats a bad suggestion
get your bad suggestion outta here nafen
pings dev hey dis be bad suggestion rite?
near glacier
@near glacier what if hes serious?
that wasn't an open invitation to ping me instead
proud solar
psst, nafen, hey nafen. block him, so you dont get his ping.
near glacier
i'm pretty sure blocking still doesn't work
near glacier
@proud solar
light parcel
but nafen can't add any reactions to the comments
near glacier
wot
light parcel
and i guess this ping didn't actually ping you, right?
near glacier
okay, ping me
near glacier
okay then that's weird
near glacier
i swear i got pings even when blocking someone before
proud solar
weird
near glacier
and get pinged by at here and everyone even when i suppressed them
proud solar
idk
solid dune
I get the pings when a dev gets pinged. Discord can be weird sometimes.
proud solar
that is really weird🤔
near glacier
but yeah anyways, prevention is better than the cure IMO
velvet arch
can you guys please discuss this nonsense in #non-drg-chat
because that has Nafen to do with the game
sleek ravine
lol
near glacier
lmao
pallid pasture
suggestion: add a timer on suggestion channel preventing each person from talking more than once per hours in it.
maybe this way it would remain : suggestion and not be used for off topic conversations.
short kernel
Can discord even pull that off?
light parcel
There are bots for that
white dawn
Have the grappling hook toggle a release by jumping, that way they could mine and stick somewhere
idle quartz
^Mining while grappling to the wall would make every other tool in the game obsolete
devout coral
make grenade launcher insta kill dreads
new update: removed glyphids cuz they are 10% of deaths
the other 10 is teammates
and a 80% cliff
so we also removed teammates
and landscape
near glacier
removed glyphids and added 50 cave leaches/square meter
devout coral
added a bottomless pit below each drop pod
near glacier
bottomless pit not scary enough
devout coral
add explosive plants at bottom
increased dreadnaught spawn rate from 1.0 to one million billion millnion trillion
versed nymph
could one of the characters have a better lamp like 3-4timers brighter
last rain
Or maybe a new character called "Lamper"
light parcel
Scout is bright
versed nymph
i dont know it this was said before but for some new game modes a endless modething like hold a point/base and fight off waves with better rewards the longer you stay.for another one a map/mission maker
neat minnow
What about some dwarven language ? Tolkien's got the Khuzdul, Warhammer has the Khazalid, we could make some lines, battlecries, insults and stuff with a language inspired by these. Keeping the same type of dwarvish sonority and create something fun with it. It could be fan made and it's really not complicated. Khazdag could be born for Deep Rock Galactic.
idle quartz
Rock and stone!
devout coral
Rock and bone if u do it moar fun
near glacier
FOR KARL!
nova locust
going off of what @neat minnow said, WoW has a few languages like the different elvish dialects that are real languages in the lore but havent actually been made into real spoken languages. there are a few dozen syllables that are randomly generated on the spot and printed into chat with no real meaning or definition, so it looks like a real language but it doesnt actually have any syntax or meaning behind it. it could be cool at least as a placeholder until more of a "real" language is built up
near glacier
i don't think it really needs to go that in-depth
amber finch
It builds up some lore to the game, amongst other things, even if it's not for everybody, it'll certainly provide a level of intrigue
near glacier
randomised runes with no meaning =/= lore
i mean, sure if the devs created a bunch of dwarven runes with a cipher and the community could work together to decipher these hidden messages in the game it might be cool
but how many messages are we gonna see written deep underground while in a mission
nova locust
its not so much about the lore as it is about the aesthetic. it just adds a little extra touch to the game. and then on top of the randomised bits there could be a few phrases with actual meaning that are spoken by the characters, like greetings and battle cries and shouts for pain and so on
and like i said it could just be a placeholder for now for when if the community decides to make its own language
near glacier
oh don't get me wrong, dwarven phrases as voice lines would be sweet
i just thought it didn't have to be as in-depth as you said with the WoW stuff 😛
tidal rose
So one franchise does it, and we want to shoehorn everyone else into it?
WoW has much, much more resources to make a language outta nowhere.
near glacier
😄
idle quartz
kek
lean haven
What, grunts coughs and belching aren't enough communication for you people?
idle quartz
^those are dwarvish language
devout coral
^cough
neat minnow
Well it could be really simple, and creating a language does not require a lot of ressources, far from it. Just a couple of lines from time to time, maybe a book about it in the spacerig. If they add another character, he/she could speak only in dwarvish, a bit like Bifur from The Hobbit movie, with a translation for the player. It could add some depth, some fun and like @amber finch said could be used to provide some intriguefor the "secrets" of Hoxxes IV.
devout coral
cough cough
yea yea we get it
stomach grumble
i hate em too
burp
well said brother!
neat minnow
Yeah, that sort of things.
Using neo-khuzdul for part of the syntax we could have something like this (damn, discord does not take phonetic font, think of latin for pronunciation) :
yea yea we get it : dûr, dûr, gekarun
i hate em too : zäraki gurt daranosh
well said brother ! : ûldarsat ikor kinu !
I am hungy : Shafûtaraki
to get it / understand : gekar
to hate : zär
to say : uldar
to be hungry : shafûtar
brother : kinu
brothers : kinèr
yes/clear : dûra
yeah/yes familiar : dûr
too/equal share : daranosh
well/good/nice : ikor
basic gammar
Present simple
I ++ : -aki
you ++ : -eik
you respect ++ : -az
you plural : -azi
he/she/it : -eidr
we ++ : -un
them + : -ast
past participles
sigular : -sat
plural : -sati
light parcel
Can we just make burps and farts to words?
neat minnow
I've never managed to pronunce anything with my ass, but maybe dwarves can 😄
lean haven
What we need is the ability to burp on demand
And here's a thought, if we are playing as dwarves, who's to say the dwarves haven't been speaking dwarvish this entire time? You hear and understand your own native language perfectly fine, why would the dwarves have any issue with it? There's no need to break character immersion and place the player as an outside spectator.
near glacier
I like how they do it with the dwarf in Vermintide
he speaks english (or i guess 'common' ? dunno what they call it in warhammer lore) but in his voice lines he uses some dwarvish words
in the loading screens from time to time you get a dictionary entry for one of the words , etc
devout coral
i can actually burp on command
not fart tho
i have not yet mastered that immense power
near glacier
well you can 'swallow air' to make burping a bit easier
can't swallow air with your arse... 😂
narrow river
I would like to suggest a cave leech emoji.
pure mulch
oh god, hopefully not as creepy as the ones in-game
analog verge
- make it so you start on the last class played when you log back in
- when people start for the first time let them start on the select a class screen so they start by picking a class instead of starting on engineer and thinking "well thats good enough" (minor thing but i know The secret world had a problem with that"
idle quartz
Would prefer khazilid over khuzdul.
analog verge
pretty pretty pretty please have an ingame menu "feedback" button instead of having it on the title menu, would love if i could press esc and report a bug or feedback of whatever
summer field
4-pack bundle?
light parcel
UHHHH. VERY GOOD IDEA
idle quartz
Steam has issues with 4pack bundles. But im not sure about xbox or windows store
light parcel
Issues? How that? There are so many games with such thing
idle quartz
mostly grandfathered in
quasi saffron
damn
summer field
Valve has been trying to cut down on fraud so they've eliminated the ability to store the extra copies on your account and you have to send them immediately (which has the problem of what do they do if someone rejects a gift-copy?)
OTOH, Humble has a number of 4-packs they still sell.
near glacier
When did that happen @summer field ?
Because I still have extra copies from fairly recently
summer field
@near glacier May last year. https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1301948399254001159 Specifically, you can no longer purchase a gift copy and store it in your inventory (which also raises the cost of getting a CSGO VAC Ban and re-rolling your account, which is apparently a thing people do?) Existing gift copies stored in inventory are unaffected.
near glacier
Right, I think that's different to multipacks
As in, buying an extra copy of a game as a gift, that doesn't have a multipack offer
analog verge
Less of a suggestion and more of a statement, cave dwellers sucks badly in solo play since the bot almost never reacts to it in time, so being caught is a guaranteed down state
additionally i think it would be great if in solo you summoned half a drop pod for half the price
else it feels like you are wasting ammo, especially since you have to use so much more
split lotus
I like the half pod idea.
Only makes sense in a solo setting. Though maybe not for half the price. Like 60 Nitra maybe?
frank olive
how about splitscreen?
idle quartz
Going to again strongly suggest Boomers actually be kill-able to stop the blast w/ the trade off that they ignite when they take damage
seems everyone just pours bullets into them until they pop, its just intuitive that you can kill them to stop them
near glacier
They're so fragile though, they'd be a bit of a joke if you could just pop them with a couple of rounds during their pre-explosion charge-up.
idle quartz
^forgot to mention, they'd be able to move while charging up in this version
atm you can just kind of walk into them to make them start to detonate and waltz away, leaving them to blow up allies for no bullet cost x3
idle quartz
Also the rank requirement on mission types is too much =/ i think just let people play ONE mission of the normal morkite extract and then open it up ?
analog verge
i think the game is going to suffer from a longevity problem due to how "carrot on a stick" oriented people has become. The cosmetics is a good start, i would suggest a challenge system which unlocks cosmetics based on challenges for people to have a goal to chase. And to be entirely honest i love dye systems though i realize that it clashes with the existing cosmetic system, dyes are a good way to add a cosmetic to chase while not needing to make more cosmetics
devout coral
and the ultimate challange would be green depth haz 5 alone
vagrant blaze
Challenge to dig down as deep as possible.
narrow river
Counter-challenge: Dig up as far as possible (You're gonna have to beat my -16m)
drifting lava
Then you reach 0m and find out there is only rock.
It's not a cave, it's an ocean.
gentle parcel
split lotus
I support this
short kernel
A borderlands 2 badass rank system that gives perks or cosmetics that persist between characters?
idle quartz
i'd kind of like Rank unlocked voice lines :V
short kernel
That would require the devs to make more voices though