or even a pickaxe swing
#suggestions
idle quartz
light parcel
And it is good that they are easy to trigger/kill. I don't want to have them be even more of a problem
Tater and I lastly streamed Motherlode. When they can chase while exploding it is just unfair.
It already was VERY hard and intense.
And we played on haz4
idle quartz
i think you are misunderstanding.
Its fair because you can CANCEL the explode by killing them
and killing them is very easy
idle quartz
Think about it though ๐ if a boomer sneaks up on you, gets right ontop of you and you're pinned in a tunnel, if you kill it fast enough you can be okay ๐
but...not if there is many..
lean haven
If we can have a Molly twitching on its side in the space rig, why can't we have the option for Molly to get knocked over by multiple glyphids or a single large glyphid and have her twitch there for a bit until players flip her upright?
idle quartz
i still think thats a bug and i hope they fix it :9
hm.. Because molly could fall on her "side" while wall walking, i think the engine doesnt differentiate?
So uh.. it was suggested before that the Dwarfs, or possibly just the scout, could get a spray paint utility item that lets them spray on the walls to mark stuff
I think this would be extra cool if the markings also showed up in highlights when you hold TAB to view team
A Driller for example, could mark the mouth of his tunnel by spray painting all around the entrance, making it easier for allies to find. Also the color would match the class.
lean haven
If we get the spray paint it should have a meter limiting its use so once the meter depletes the spray can runs out
idle quartz
yeah limited qauntity dont want it spammed or abused much
Scout would likely get the most.
lean haven
No refills either
short kernel
unless its resupplied... right?
fathom flower
if only i the "kick" command would show up if i stood behind one of my teammates in the lobby (like it does when u look at a barrel) ๐
idle quartz
shows up when you hit ESC
near glacier
Or when someone is looking down a deep cave precipice. Have your alignment change to Duergar and grays your skin every time you do it. A permanent griefer-tracking system.
lean haven
@short kernel no. Just a finite amount useable each round
lean haven
If we ever get a pet system in game I want a pet loot bug and drong wants a pet praetorian
cunning reef
(Small) pet leech anyone? Can carry it in an open jar and have it try to grab other dwarves
Better yet, it tries to grab other pets
lean haven
I just realized we've got users with the names waffles, pancakes, and tater/potato. We've almost got a complete breakfast going here.
light parcel
Lol
modern owl
The game is really Amazing !!! good work on update .best for the future cordially.
simple bramble
A wall climbing mount or class, even if limited would be fun, being able to mine while upsidedown in a cave off the back of a mount or via some sort of climbing harness
summer field
Hmm, I don't know about pets, but cosmetics to spruce up your pod, like bugs in jars or a model equipment (drill pod or MULE) would be awesome.
idle quartz
wings and tails and devil horns/angel halo's, pocky or cookies in our mouths and floating puppies in bubbles Kappa
idle quartz
on a more serious note... Icons indicating afflicted Debuffs with durations?
light parcel
But we do need a skin system or something to make 2 gunners look different
random vault
Big suggestion: Remove tenticles spawns if the player is solo. It's very dark in the caverns, and it's simply impossible to see every nook and cranny, so a sudden grab ending your mission with absolutely no recourse for the player other than to sit there and wait for their health to count down is simply not fun. It feels like a You Lose button that sometimes just hits randomly.
Additionally, make it to where no greater than the total number of players in the mission, minus 1 tenticles can spawn. so that it's at least still possible to recover from it, albeit at much lower health. We had our entire group get grabbed all at once by 4 tenticles as we walked into a room in a 4 player match, and it was just frusterrating.
idle quartz
that sounds awesome and i hope it was recorded
snow bridge
Game over man, game over...
it's like in alien isolation when you walk under a vent with saliva dripping out of it
usually you see it and avoid it, but it's that one moment when you're not paying attention / were rushing or just didn't see it that you get pulled up...
makes you jump out of your skin the first time it happens.
devout coral
a new gamemode becasue i remember talk about a large bulky laser while laser can be used to cut diamonds maybe the dwarves for 1 gamemode protect a drill wich is drilling a diamond in transportable pieces on the spot and getting it loose out of the ground while the dwarves protect it in the meantime
drill might need to be on surface due to fragility so its unable to directly launch at the location of the megagem
wraith tide
I๏ธ like the term โmegagemโ
devout coral
megagemagemmentlgen
short kernel
"Liquid hot, magma"
bright flower
SUPER HOT
dense beacon
Small suggestion: just an option or something to choose who we spawn as when we launch the game (spawn as gunner default atm) either an option/setting or just spawn as who you last played. (saves you having to do it when you load in)
light parcel
That should be in game already.
Well I play as gunner only anyway so I have no clue
near glacier
Motherlode is definatly too tough for most random teams
amber finch
It does require squads of 3-4 people, and what you have to do is more difficult than the regular missions, so it's worth having some experience before jumping in to motherlode
devout coral
you should just bring a squad of seven
amber finch
This is also true
dense beacon
@devout coral i thought it was teams of 4?
light parcel
@dense beacon That is an insider referring to my video I once made where (caused by a bug) we were able to have more than 4 players on
dense beacon
@light parcel oh right fair enough
delicate patrol
Idk if this was suggested, but I'd love to see my character's legs or be able to sit in the pod when deplying to a mission.
idle quartz
and to actually buckle the seatbelt
delicate patrol
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near glacier
It would be great to work a lil bit more on the rocks .. after u mine a tunnel , when u come back , u kinda bug in rocks ๐
quaint crest
put revive of a player over building a turret please.
solid dune
more squad channels in voice chat is probably needed since all 5 have had some people in it already today
opaque lagoon
I could use some aiming function with some cool sights to the guns too. It would improve the gunplay
round eagle
yeah at least some ironsights would be cool to have
and the pickaxe/drill could be a tool in the bar like the others or having another keyy
solemn sable
I would appreciate having a seperate volume slider for incoming in game voice chat, that'd be nice to have, thanks
dark chasm
Could we get a spectator mode or sometihng when we are down
delicate patrol
We could be able to destroy sentries and receive half resource for it
mental crypt
This game doesn't really like alt-tabbing. Any plans to remedy that :D?
light parcel
We need more ;-;
inland matrix
Allowing more people than just people who had signed up? like giving a key to new people just for the Open alpha?
light parcel
i meant more voip
dawn crescent
Difficult to invite or join people and finding the right servers. Need to have ways to filter out servers and make it easier to get together a group.
light parcel
@dawn crescent Not hard. you can invite/join peeps with steam
dawn crescent
we've had some problems with the option of inviting or joining not even apearing.
for instance we have not been able to see eachothers servers in the server list
brisk rune
I donโt really get sharing the open alpha key? Can I? And how does it work?
Ask this already but nobody seemed to answer
delicate patrol
It would be nice to have the game saving your main character next time you opened it.
fossil canopy
i made once a Character Idea in the Steam Community hub
but it looks like nobody is interested
light parcel
steam community... ppl use this actively?
lean haven
I haven't looked at the steam community for deep rock in idk how long
#367228139287478272 needs some text still
willow drift
Please, Mulle stops where your mouse is appointing.
upbeat flame
add a respawn button so if youre dead for ages you can respawn after a 3 minute delay or something?
prime shuttle
FPS limit option pls ๐ฎ Esp for ppl with gsync/freesync
wide moon
add the jukebox as an object like in vicera cleanup
so you can take it with you in the caverns
๐
solemn sable
that'd be chill
slow edge
Iron sights would definitley be sweet
solemn sable
you'd have to change the pickaxe's binding though, and it's super convenient as rmb, because you need it so much
I don't think iron sights would add a lot to the experience
and adding usable ironsights to the gun model would be too detailed compared to the rest of the gun model
slow edge
thats true
cinder swan
@idle quartz nope, Deep Rock Galactic doesn't invest to useless things like that :P "We finally need seatbelts, don't they care just a little if we get hurt before the mission even really starts?!"
snow lagoon
Ability to turn off view bobble. Getting a bit motion sick after a while
devout coral
we need more squad groups cuz all the ones have someone in em atm
light parcel
<@&257786783666929665> FUCKING DO IT! DEW IIIIIIIIIIT!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss-IvNjl7JQ
NAAUUUU! AI NED IT
slow edge
That is pretty sweet
light parcel
Payday 2 has it and i am jelly...
fallow terrace
Having trouble finding servers
tight scaffold
Yeah I havent seen a server since I logged on :[
idle quartz
i see about 30
check for update?
try restarting the game if its not properly refreshing
halcyon vine
Suggestion - The drop pods don't always align resonably with the environment they've landed in. Might need some improvement - Perhaps add some code to ensure a larger space in front of the ramp. It can also be hard to find the ramp leading to a bit of annoyance, especially if you fall off the ramp and get stuck / die under the shuttle, just as the timer runs out.
tulip basin
Suggestion: allow the controlls to be rebound. like z is really not a confortable key to press while trying not to get eaten alive
Suggestion: Allow the user to back-out of menus by hitting escape, it takes too long to get out of the settings when trying to change something on the fly imho
light parcel
@tulip basin When you have a mouse with G-Keys or a keyboard with them you could maybe set one up to be a 'Z'
I do that as well with my mouse
tulip basin
ive got a Razer so i can remap the keyboard itself
but that is a workaround for a problem that, imho, should not exist
tight scaffold
Suggestion: MARKET MECHANICS
I really like the basic mechanics so far and I know that there are plans for mapping out more biomes and dangers and such. What I think would be cool is a market mechanic. First you would need maybe a dozen mineral types. Each mineral type is found only in certain biomes. The relative levels deposited of each mineral are tracked on a global board. Simulate a basic supply/demand market with a little randomness thrown in such as scarcities and surpluses. This would incentivise players to keep trying different missions in order to make the most money possible. If people get really good at a certain strategy in a certain area, then that mineral will become less valuable. With multiple minerals, you can also incentivize players with "contracts" which could be daily, weekly, monthly, whatever. Contracts could also scale up if they are completed multiple times in a row (encouraging continual play) with tangential rewards like cosmetics or whatever else.
solemn sable
that's starting to kinda give me a warframe vibe (which is a game I absolutely adore, so it's not a bad thing)
you've got the map with all the mission, you don't roam around pointlessly (but they added that open world bit to warframe but it's weird)
you don't nessecarely go to a level for the reward for doing it, but for the resources you'll find there
"what map is good for farming ___"
it would make you fall back on previous levels
in warframe the resources are for crafting, but in your suggestion they're solely to sell on the market for money
interesting idea, you'll need to adapt based on the market and it'll require some knowledge of the maps/ore spawns
next thing you need is just more things to spend money on...
tight scaffold
Ive never played Warframe I didnt realize it was like that.
There are a lot of ways they could go with a multi materal system. They could have gear crafting which could help you specialize. Theyll probably have some sort of cosmetics system that could require money. I personally would enjoy a "hardcore mode" where you create basic characters and upgrade them and improve them with minerals until they lose a mission or are left behind.
solemn sable
with your market idea: would the market prices be the same for everyone?
if they were different for everyone (that first of all wouldn't really feel like a market) but it'd make it harder find the ideal mission for you and your friends, if you both needed different materials
light bloom
Have a kind of cod zombies-esque mode where there is no time limit, the waves of bugs get harder and harder, you always have the option to extract to secure your score, and your score is amount of morkite mined. If your squad dies, that's it, your score falls back to the last score checkpoint number. So you end it and extract to save your high score, or you risk going further to get to the next score tier/checkpoint. Having a leaderboard of this high score would add some competetiveness to friends and the game in general.
solemn sable
why'd you delete your message? it was a good idea
I don't think I've ever heard of "score checkpoints" before
the thing with that is that it would make extracting kind of pointless in some situations:
hold out 'till the checkpoint and just die
the all or nothing approach that @vital mason brought up, where you only keep the XP would fix this
torn holly
I would love to see more base building like gameplay. For defense objective planets, you could give the miners a minute to set up defenses, and as the rounds go by, the minerals you mine as well as the enemies you kill give you money to set up more defenses (Walls, turrets, stairs, etc)
amber finch
Ohh, turret defence style, I like it
Also somewhat fitting as it feels sanctum like and the publishing studio is coffee stain
amber finch
There's a kind of defence mode, called motherlode, you dig up gems and alien eggs and deposit them in a stationary area
The map is only one tile so they spawn around that area
light bloom
I was thinking all or nothing at first but I thought it would be a bit too harsh, but keeping the xp still makes it worthwhile so that's better
amber finch
I'd say a system where you keep on surviving, and once your team goes down, deep rock galactic extracts you and you get exp and credits based on the amount of waves you held off
vital mason
thanks @solemn sable , I think I was going to reword my initial comment, but I got distracted and forgot. You summed up what I was going to add
opal raft
As engineer, can you pick up your turrets once you place them?
whoops, asked this in suggestions channel my bad
vital mason
As to it being too harsh, I would say that there is no incentive to extract as @solemn sable stated. There has to be incentive to save yourself or risk losing everything for more. However, game mechanic wise, you do dump your earning into a machine that follows you around. Maybe it has to make multiple trips between you and the drop ship or drill in this case for it to save what you have gathered, that might be a good compromise
pulsar relic
I feel like the shield being damage from falling or recharing covers a bit too much of the screen, or at least could be a little more transparent
it feels like it covers 75% of my screen with blue hexagons and makes it hard to see more than anything
pulsar relic
yeah i noticed that too, it was a bit disorienting
gusty orbit
maybe even the ability to change directions when ziplining
amber finch
I can tell you now that you do have the ability to change direction on a zipline, just press e when you're on it and your direction will change
solemn sable
omg this is so confusing
I thought he was talking to himself
because they have the same profile picture
pulsar relic
I feel like grenades pop about a second too early
they always seem to explode in transit when I feel safe enough away from something to throw it
gusty orbit
kick the can is a fun game lol
quartz ingot
this topic is more of a discord issue
can you move one of the voice chat servers to the us? im seeing 160+ ping
amber finch
I don't believe you can move individual voice channels to different locations, only the server itself
scarlet lynx
Has anyone ever talked about a Power Drill upgrade to allow you to more quickly excavate materials. Or is the drill only for digging through rocks? I have tried the Power Drill on Gold and Morkite and nothing. Would be interesting, perhaps a secondary fire that consumes more fuel?
tall surge
^ Yeah same.
It runs out of fuel rather fast and is only useful for breaking rocks
Also I feel as though dirt could use a little color upgrade as it is rather hard to spot within a large cave.
Make it a little more brown so that it's easier to progress
gusty orbit
health seems to go down tooooooo easy. we've been on the lost overhang for 2 hours and have been getting a little closer to success
idle quartz
i cant even make new voice channels ๐ฆ
muted cloak
So is there a way to invite friends to the alpha or a place for them to apply to join?
Also a suggestion though it changes game play. I would love to see supply drops give ammo/health from a pool rather than all or nothing. Like as you hold down E it gradually gives you ammo/health from the pack till the pack is depleated.
But hey, not my game. Do what you want ๐
tulip basin
Feature request: integration with STEAM servers
so i can join my friends server, without having to fish for it in the server browser
muted cloak
YES^
idle quartz
should be able too unless there's a problem
near glacier
Just a suggestion for the game- throw in some kind of long-range mining laser. Just a simple, heavy weapon laser, that can mine ore at range. Even in the few games I've played, a constant problem is ores are out of reach and we're out of ammo (Both for platform guns and ziplines, along with our weapons) and spend a lot of time tediously mining up to some Nitra in the roof. Not my game, just a suggestion.
hollow thorn
suggestion: make drop pod a toggle and not come in automatically once you hit all the minerals
or change the way we deposit ore, sucks if you want to deposit and the mule runs off :/
idle quartz
if you think you can just hold off on turning in until you've all made it back to the beginning, that wont work ๐
slate hemlock
I'd like to suggest giving the Engineer a "special resource pool" and let them use that to built several machines (sentry, a mountable cannon, a big drill that is aimed one way then keeps digging for quite a long way and is then useless, a lava boat)
idle quartz
haha ๐ engineer already is so strong
muted cloak
At least a chance to drop off what is in our inventory or have it counted towards the final if it isn't already.
idle quartz
he'd be a engineer, gunner and driller all in one ๐
slate hemlock
No no
He'd use from his resource pool :P
tho the drill was only an example xD
could give that to the driller :D
idle quartz
maybe he'll get other turrets
slate hemlock
But like a lava boat n stuff could be fun :D
idle quartz
maybe he'll get a turret he can pick up and move...but he'd only get 2 or 3 instead of 4 ๐
slate hemlock
or even electric fence! xD
Wait I know!
He can build a limit ammo tesla coil which is a backpack he can wear, but he cant use any other weapons meanwhile!
it would be a short duration, big dmg , medium area of effect to save his buddies from the swarm! :D
The gunner could totally use a lot more gun, maybe even an extra slot for another gun? :D
as an alternative to the platform gun, a kind of styrofoam gun that would be more freeform could be a fun addition :3
idle quartz
Yeah i've suggested that, like a insulation foam gun
slate hemlock
With lava pockets that would free flow
it could be used to build temporary walls against it, making a moat between you and the bugs
The scout could, instead of a grapple hook, get a jetpack? :P
or a tool that literally allows him to climb, like mountain climbing axes :D
idle quartz
liquid physics not really gonna happen in a destructible environment like this =/
it aint blocks like mc
slate hemlock
Could always hope :P
but if it is a limited liquid, low graphic/poly, still good looking ofc
with not very liquidy and slow moving
I think it could work
without murdering the players computers
glad shard
whatever you do, don't change the barrels : )
me and two friends spent a half hour getting all the barrels in the rocket ship
slate hemlock
A fun new mission could be an old mining base that had a cave in, and then you'd salvage and what not of its resource deposits :D
hollow thorn
it's less about a better position, imo it's just more tedious to plan around turn-ins and worry about gold etc. - just play normally and call the pod when ready (like in the new mission) ๐
slate hemlock
Or rescue survivors in said mining colony :P
tired bolt
Some less agressive banter lines would be lovely.
cobalt crown
tired bolt
I said some, mind you, not all of them. XD
weary island
Maybe some brief descriptions of classes/equipment, especially if there are plans for new equipment choices, just so newish players can quickly learn a bit about what all the equipment does without having to first bring it into game.
hardy jackal
The 3D map is awesome but will be nice if you can rotate the map to other angles rather than just seeing it in a top down view. The top down view is especially troublesom in largely vertical areas. Also will be nice if platforms, zip lines and other players are marked on the map.
subtle wedge
I think that the subtle hints (such as red blips on the walls) about collecting the alien eggs and such are great! However, it would be nice to tell the player to look for them. Perhaps include that in the tutorial, as well.
thick gate
are there plans for better gears? I don't see how current guns stand a chance on Lethal mode.
Engineer- could use either a sidearm, or, modified turrets (+100 bullets, or +1 turret) as running out of ammo is fairly common . Gunner-minigun could use either a damage up or armor penetration (doing say 1/2 damage through normally "hard" spots) Digger - the main reason a digger is there.. is to dig better.. but the pick upgrade hardly helps, and the drill arms need to change to either Cooldown only mode, Fuel only mode, or simply last longer/dig faster. they run outta fuel too quickly to do any real tunnel. Scout - flare gun flares should last longer, even upgrade the 40s timer isn't that great for how little you can carry, and how big some of the caverns are. General changes- map should be toggled, not hold M, map should show team mates in color triangles, point side up for above/same elevation, down for deeper. Guns feel underpowered for how many swarm, even on only danger-3. (motherlode) can't imagine on lethal-5. Afk need dealt with as a server punish, not just kicked. Same with Team killers.
demolitions (c-4) need to do more damage to environment, seem fine for entity damage. (nothing like trying to blast a hole in a dirt wall quickly only to barely scratch it)
grappling hook could use a "lower" option instead of just grappling, pullnig and dropping.
i hope custumizations come, coloring bears, getting hats, coloring armor/tools. Also hope for more gear per class - not keen on the sawed-off shotgun as a "backup" when so little ammo/damage seems done with it. I'd prefer a pistol - even if it did same damage. (more bullets, better accuracy)
beards* even. bears... ha!
not sure what do do about this situaion but during a mission we got to the end, only to have a "troll" mess things up - the final tunnel to the drop pod, he rushed through drawing all aggro, then sat inside and died. the aggro stayed there and we couldn't dig through (go around) nor fight through (green praetorian INSIDE the tiny tunnel blocking all movement and most damage) getting 0 exp, and 0 credits for that kind of failure is pretty harsh.
light parcel
@thick gate tl;dr
But what I read was the beginning. Lethal is totally possible but extremely hard. So that will not change since many ppl love to play like that here
thick gate
eh i find that iffy at best. the general public will be doing 2-3 man runs, and not having a full dedicated 4man team. this has proven so in every other squad game. some "random" wil join - and things won't work well. having the general population say it's "impossible" doesn't bode well
amber finch
Yeah, I have to agree with drong
It is totally possible, but it requires you to have a decent amount of experience and understand the role of each class etc
And You say that, but I believe I have done a 3 man leathal before
Hell, the other day three of us took a guy who had never played before into leathal and we did fine
thick gate
this is a very small group compared to expectations at release. Showing concern now in hopes a balance is kept an eye on, in case it is required.
weary island
I think how it is currently is fine, I think a larger variety of equipment for differing playstyles should and most likely will be added but buffing everything in general just so casual or less experienced players can run through the harder difficulties is a bit unnecessary.
thick gate
turrets, platform gun, zipline need a slight "cooldown" to prevent accidental shot spamming. Nothing like a zipline that goes 3ft or double turrets or platforms , this cooldown should also have a slight delay as the gun i spulled out, to prevent accidental firing when switching weapons during a heated fight.
wide moon
i started playing on 2nd hardest difficulty and then switched to lethal pretty fast, sure we died a bit but it still went quite well
thick gate
agreed but theres no mention of new gear or better gear, its assumed but nothing shows it in the game. a simple grayed out item of "cannot use yet" would do wonders to help this uneasy feeling of "this seems lacking in damage.. I don't know about this game" general users seem to get (as per Twitch Audience)
wide moon
i think its quite fine as long as people don't ignore all the nitra and starves the team
thick gate
nitra is rng. literally had a game where none was found, and we found all the objectives in 2 minutes. - we were loaded, in and out in 8 minutes.
weary island
So my first 2 extreme difficulty levels went as so
1st: 3 dreadknots spawned at once and murdered everyone.
2nd: Very uneventful and no mention of any dreadknots...
idk if this is a common issue or not but maybe add a bit more of a consistency with each difficulty?
wide moon
also i havent been digging any massive tunnels with digger, my primary use for digger is to quickly make ramps so we can backtrack and move around easily without getting stuck when we have to extract
if ur digging massive tunnels you've prolly gotten srs lost or rly unlucky with rng
thick gate
my friend and i went on difficulty 2 for his first mission (First Drop) and it was NOTHING but dreadnaughts.... every swarm, invsasiona nd incoming had one. we foought 6. and he was like "man these guys are rough" and i was like "yea... they aren't normally this common either)
wide moon
I've been countering the brutal big dude spawns by picking digger and swimming in resupplies, blasting everything with flamethrower, sometimes staggering morkite gathering to find more nitra
but it gets rly brutal at times yeh heh qq
light parcel
Isn't that cool? :D
Finally a challenging game
wide moon
i really really love the end rush
weary island
agreed
wide moon
we usually get cucked by weird caves towards the end tho
when the extraction isnt backtracking its pretty painful
as u get lost easily
light parcel
Hehe. You never had LZ 200m away without 
, right?
weary island
Litterally the escape plan that worked for my first few games was digger dug straight for the pod
wide moon
its usually like 180m but thats kinda useless measurr since you're gonna be running around in spiraling tunnels for 5min
ivr never dug straight for pod actually
weary island
It works XD
wide moon
we try to map as much as possible
light parcel
Map?
light parcel
So you write down where everything is?
wide moon
bad word
thick gate
map - M key. lol.
light parcel
Aww... That would have been so nice to hear
wide moon
cordinates could b a thing
weary island
YES, x, y, z cords. (I guess they've already got z cords with depth)
thick gate
coords be terrible, simple map indicators of above (triangle up) below (triangle down) of your team mates and drop pod would work wonders
weary island
I'd be happy with either
wide moon
meh its a cave map not some gps
i like the simplicity even tho it got a lil clunky feeling learn curve
light parcel
The learn curve is in since v6 and this version is not that old.
So jeah. The tutorial stuff is a WIP
wide moon
some guy earlier mentioned different cannons and gadgets for engineer
maybe being able to mount one on mule would be a good idea
my friends been playing engineer a bit and theres often too much movement in normal missions to really set up base
prolly not make it super powerful tho
as situations like setting up base with 2 engineers in the corner of a room makes swams a cake walk
never having to set up base would be op af
light parcel
Set Up a base? The Turret is for passive defense or for swarms. Not for making a base and building a ๐
light parcel
Mining platform?
wide moon
the motherload mining rig with sentry guns ๐
light parcel
.> I know, we are dwarfs but that is overkill
wide moon
a man can dream
light parcel
Okay, dream. But it will stay a dream
sharp wind
Mech units and vehicles
I would love to be able to get into something like the alien movies
A mission dedicated to drilling with a vehicle would be so cool. Dlc content maybe ๐๐คฃ๐ฉ
Alsoooooo the drop pods need to have more ammo. Called a pod yesterday and my team stole all my ammo lol
Final recommendation ADS plz
Sometimes aiming down sights is helpful ๐
Rebound melee to E?
brisk rune
So is it on the cards to play as bugs? Pve / pvp?
clear parrot
Dropping a Gem by simply hit "E" would be nice. So you could throw it down the cave in the hands of a teamate.
light parcel
Pressing right click is not simple?
wide moon
you can currently drop it by switching weapon
oh u can right click 2? ay
even better
clear parrot
ok .. seems that i did not test this ...
What about the idea that a supply pod provides ammo / player currently in the game?
wide moon
when your teamwork gets really good and people start tossing gems around ๐
idle quartz
i just want to be able to throw them ๐ฆ
wide moon
i like that the supply pod only has 2 resupplies
gotta choose who gets the first resupply
ofc in a random group that goes out the window
clear parrot
when your mates are your friends .. you can discuss ..
idle quartz
does automatically go out the window with randoms, even randoms can talk ๐
or just put the pod where they cant reach ๐
wide moon
heh
calling mule away when people wanna turn in last morkite cus someones stuck in a hole somewhere
๐
calm crater
what if
when you put in the last unit of Morkite, a big button appears on the MULE
and we press that to signal evacuation instead of it triggering instantly
wide moon
but pugs would still just insta trigger it
idle quartz
the game should encourage you to be as quick as possible about it ๐
soi personally wouldnt like anything that helps draw a mission out to farm it in any ways
ya'll should be overran with bugs >: |
wide moon
wouh
calm crater
what if the wave still came regardless if you signalled for evac or not?
idle quartz
they gotta get bigger and bigger!
calm crater
now im likin it
wide moon
ive been having my best easiest and shortest games on lethal
lul
morkite everywhere
thing with not starting extraction instantly is id like to make sure entire team is grouped up and even more that we're not stuck in a hole
dont mind going down blasting some bugs w my flamethrower tho so im fine with some messy less ideal extractions
dusky wharf
may i suggest an option for no head shake when moving
pine storm
The more I climb up the rank, the deeper on the planet will I mine?
wraith tide
^^ there should be some function like this but I๏ธ think it should be like the mission select screen. Harder missions take you deeper
pine storm
but and the rank?
fallow terrace
Spent an hour in the mission where you had to collect gems and alien aggs. Had all the gems but was missing one alien egg. The mission refused to start the countdown to end the mission until 15 minutes. Is this a bug or is there some trigger that I was missing?
amber finch
On the platform there should be a red button, once you have deposited all 10 of the gems you can press it
That will trigger the last part of the mission to start
light parcel
That should have been told by the game when the lat Aquarq entered the pod
vast kestrel
This games reward system is currently super limited. The game itself is great but rewards aren't all that rewarding. I would like to be able to earn sidegrade weapons for classes. Sidegrade weapons would allow players to double up on certain classes whilst still carrying out unique functions, such as a long range scouts, or explosive based drillers.
This would of course expand the reward pool in a positive way.
I also saw some videos of more than four people joining missions through a glitch, this would be a cool feature, I'd love to join a massive swarm server with a shitton of dwarfs.
delicate patrol
Will there be different game types other than Gems and Minerals? Also, I have some ideas :P
- Upgradable base, use the minerals/gems collected to improve overall equipments allowing to go deeper or find special places.
- Market to buy/sell minerals/gems (this would fit better with the previous suggestion)
- New weapons for each class, more upgrades for existing weapons
- Status for classes (I don't really see difference when leveling up so that would be interesting)
- Appearance options (beard color, skin color, uniform color - if this is not locked to character)
- Mining rank, why not ๐
south cloak
Enemies that can come from above or below you, IE, tunnelers, would be a great addition.
delicate patrol
There are enemies coming from above, below I never seen them. But those buggers who pulls you to the top and kills you slowly are a pain. Specially if playing solo. There's also the web throwing ones.
hollow thorn
@light parcel I think the game tells you
hollow thorn
yeah ๐
light parcel
Well, I will be playing shortly. So I would have seen this later anyway ^^
hollow thorn
iirc it's a voiceover, maybe hard to miss while fighting or sth
near glacier
I have a suggestion for the scout. Maby you can combine his flare and his flare gun, Iยดm thinking about the flare gun recharging ammo and removing the normal flare for the scout. Because having both kinda feels weird.
wide moon
i remember the game telling me to launch, not how to do it
took me 2-3min to figure out where that button was ^^
but maybe i missed it talking about the button
green magnet
bard class with a ghettoblaster and a revolver
wide moon
boi
i already put in suggestion of adding the jukebox into the spelunking so this is ๐
green magnet
passive damage and speed buff to team or disorients the bugs
near glacier
So... what do you think of my suggestion?
wide moon
i think scout feels really weak so i think any buff to them would be good
green magnet
nah scout is pretty OP really i mean once you upgrade the grapple gun you can just fly away from danger
delicate patrol
Make the thrown flares fade after their light is out, maybe?
light parcel
If the 
is OP or not is hard to tell since it matters if you are good with it or not
scarlet lynx
Noticed people joining and spawn instantly only to fall to their deaths. Perhaps something detecting the player in danger would be a good way to provide a safe place when you join up
delicate patrol
It would be better if the spawning point was the same where the pod landed to leave the miners
amber finch
I would agree with that, but some times you can explore very far into caves, and so you'd have one player on their own, trying to get to everyone, it makes it even worse if there's a swarm going on too
But the idea could easily be re-used, for example the joining player could be placed at the entrance of the cave the host is in
frail cliff
Might be an idea to add cave-ins/temors; ability to upgrade to arc lights
scarlet forge
please include an option to remove or disable head bobbing
vivid knot
An option to still type in chat while browsing missions would be nice ๐
vast kestrel
Basic modding in the form of changing models, sounds, and textures would be very welcome if possible.
I also think that since you guys are willing to host the game in a playable state, and since people enjoy it, you should let people buy pre-early access copies directly from you.
Before you launch on Steam, it's a great opportunity for the devs to earn more money (untaxed by Valve), whilst also allowing us, the players to bypass a seemingly arbitrary wait. I'd happily pay full price right now if it meant I could keep playing.
solemn sable
@vast kestrel you'll be happy to hear they've said that they're definitely gonna look into modding, but they're not that experienced with making mod-able games
wait
Soren told you that
I'm an idiot
vast kestrel
@solemn sable Yeah I heard that they like modding, but they haven't really been building the game with modding in mind.
Still, putting it here for reference, I'd love to see it.
muted cloak
Just did a 4 person run. Suggestions
When Tab is pressed is highlights players (outlines through the world) locations. There should be a way to toggle this or just leave it all on the time.
Have ammo/health packs on supply drops be taken from gradually rather than all or nothing. This gives players a slightly better fighting chance and reduces the chance that one player (accident/troll) will eat all the ammo
hasty mountain
I wouldn't mind being able to take more than one of the same class on a run.
idle quartz
You can already do that^
supple meteor
From playing my first 10ish minutes id change the static sound effect on the loading screens
kinda ear piercing
hasty mountain
character customization would be nice
supple meteor
The ability to sort missions by time/difficulty/etc would be great
idle quartz
on the browser list? agreed, need sorting
tulip basin
Suggestion: a method of saying ' you just played on this server' for those times you have a really crumby player group or a serious disagreement with a player. the inverse could also apply for when you accidently disconnect / need to bounce the client due to bugs
zealous yoke
Suggestion: Perhaps change the Engineer's flare to not be a deep red color, as I've more often than not found it to obscure, rather than reveal, nearby digables
limpid bear
Mabye one of the classes could have a short range sonar that would scan a short area around the player and mark anything of interest in that area
torn holly
I think the ability to call in a resupply and it drill down is awesome. What if you could call in certain weapons, armor, even like a mech suit like that? A small nuke even.....idk Just an idea hahaha
supple meteor
The option to undo an upgrade before a confirmation
or more info on what the upgrade does rather than a general statement about it
for example my minigun upgrade fom 300 rounds per clip to 800
light parcel
I guess all you can see in there currently is more a placeholder than really done
So we will see many changes in this system in the future (My words, not the devs' words)
tulip basin
suggestion: allow players to enter the escape pod even if the mule doesn't reach the escape pod - we just failed a mission because the mule didn't make it back in time
better yet: start the exfil timer once the mule makes it back, makes no sense to leave the haul behin
supple meteor
A market / upgrades area to talk to other people and see a larger amount of players at once
idle quartz
that would require dedicated servers i think, just different channels that'd randomly push people into. People would then try to figure out how to all get to the same channel i.e. make a group =/ might complicate group making as it is now
supple meteor
https://imgur.com/a/G2LDC One really small thing that doesn't matter at all, but changing the walking sound effect in the hub as it appears that it is galvanized metal
thick gate
more people at once wouldn't be too good here, were 1 of 4 classes.... 4 voices... 4 looks. it would get very ugly very fast
and i disagree with "Undo" on upgrades. all upgrades make it better in some way, no need to undo. Don't like it? Just go farm more gold.
had a mission were we made it to extraction before mule, mule got there and lowered the door - and pounded one of our team through the ground like a tent spike. he couldn't dig out (damage was to the hatch, thus 0, not the ground) swarm spawned UNDER the extraction pod, knocked him down, the guy trying to help him down, and then blocked the exit causing a failed mission due to time running out. (He was trying to dig a tunnel around it)
tulip basin
Suggestion for the beta: add more customization options, perhaps different guns or different pieces of equipment that each respective class can unlock and use instead of the base components.
Such as a shield generator for the engi rather than turrets, or a zipline that only only works in one direction but works on steep enclines (replacing the stock Gunner zipline)
iron elk
You should make it so that the platform gun can shoot to make the platform more like a barricade and make it so bugs dont pass through it so it can be used as a defence tool
tulip basin
the problem is the AI can choose to nocolide with the terrain - thats more of a bug than anything. If they fixed that then it would work for making horizontal baracades during Digger-assisted exfiltrations
then the AI would have to take some time and dig - or self-destruct - through the foam
delicate patrol
Suggestions:
- Make it possible to throw gems, not simply drop it at your feet when changing weapons;
- Would make sense if platform gun was recharged by digging, maybe a slower and weaker digging (or maybe make the gun dig through dirt only to fill up) made with the gun and not the pickaxe so it wouldn't be OP;
- Change the reload sound for the health pack to something more like healing and less like reloading a gun;
- Scout's flare gun with longer bright (or even permanent?) but lowering amount of flares.
thick gate
- throw gems would make it too easy to get it back, and easily exploited. disagree with need. platform gun isn't OP, the limited ammo is very well introduced. the platforms also break very easily. Longer flares is a thing desired, not permanent though, as more light sources tend to bonk up games with destroyable terrain. (shadows, physics, etc)
the platform and turret guns are 2 different things, they aren't really meant to be used together, but can be.
delicate patrol
I don't think the platform gun is op, my idea was to make it rechargeable through digging instead of using ammo refill, which would be considered op maybe
idle quartz
it doesnt shoot rock ๐ its a special quick dry foam
delicate patrol
Fair enough
idle quartz
i wouldnt mind throwing gems a little bit though.
right now, most people probably use ziplines to transport them.
But dropping them on your own toes is annoying when trying to get them off a high edge >>
nimble mason
I think the spawn conditions for the pod in the magma cavern need to be tweaked a little. I love the deep cavern and exploring it but getting back in time is a royal pain. It's easy to lose track of how much morkite you have and since we can't climb walls like the Mule it just isn't enough time sometimes. Doubly so if you're starved for nitra so your gunner can't place quick escape ziplines.
tulip basin
having a digger on the team is a must for that level - that and having intricate webs of ziplines. As long as you can get a fully armed digger within 150m you will make it in time, assuming no sudden falls
idle quartz
Always make sure you got a way back! Shouldnt ever "NEED" to drill the entire distance. Faster to run if you know the way, if yo uget lost, drill towards the closest connecting cavern you can find.
You can also make shortcuts as you delve.
If the driller ventures far ahead or falls behind he can drill towards the other players, creating shortcuts
tulip basin
yeah, if it is more than 150m you will need to make use of caverns, i find 150 to be the magic number
idle quartz
more tools for navigation should be coming someday
tulip basin
The problem is the RV is not always the insersion point
Honestly i don't see why thats the case, i mean the insersion drop pod has made an existing more, surely its less expensive to send the recovery DropPod down the same hole
So even if you have shortcuts leading back to the mine head, they might be useless when the RV is in the oposite direction
idle quartz
it tries to spawn away from player locations, depends on how deep you get.
Otherwise people would just cheese it
tulip basin
Game balance>common sense :/
Fair enough, but then how would shortcuts be helpful then?
idle quartz
for getting back, usually you do head back to the start, only if you get a lot of morkite really early do you need to go deeper
like if you dont venture to some invisible half-way mark in the cave
not sure how it works but the system is it'll try to spawn at one end or the other
tulip basin
Also would be nice if where it drops is somewhere Walle can get to within 4:50
because ive had a game where we got to the RV with 2 minutes to spare, but walle ended up 300+ meters away then the timer hit zero
Not sure how it all works, but the least-effort solution would be to reinsert at the minehead - except if thats where players are that
idle quartz
yeah thats an issue that needs tweaked, especially if molly gets "lost"
tulip basin
then, just to spite, drop deep into the mine ;P
idle quartz
or stuck ><
tulip basin
yeah..
makes no sense, we are all MIA since the doors never unlocked yet the resources are still counted as collected
even though walle was left behind
.>
you know what? why not make it optional 'drop the RV here', but make it really noisy and make it really difficult to pull off as giant hordes of creatures are summoned
idle quartz
its an option
tulip basin
Good players could sucessfully fortify a point and hold it long enough for the drill to reach them
idle quartz
i think its less tense ๐ฆ
a lot of people enjoy the trekk back
and its kind of satisfying to remember the cavern
tulip basin
yeah, the treck can be epic - i got into the RV with -2 seconds to spare
ivory stag
Thing is, it's not necessarily 'back'
tulip basin
^
idle quartz
back home!
tulip basin
sometimes ive actually had it drop in undiscovered caverns deeper in
ivory stag
You could be sent on a journey through a brand new cavern with hives and tentacles and pitfalls, all that fun stuff that requires methodical clearing for save passage
idle quartz
Going deeper can be even funner.. the way up you can often just RUN from all the glyphids but if yo ugotta go down you gotta fight and dig
tulip basin
(that was the event that caused failure since walle had no path)
ivory stag
Today I had a game where molly couldn't reach the escape pod on time because it was dropped too far
So the mission was guaranteed a failure regardless of what the players did
tulip basin
its a real buzzkill when we failed because the game said 'nope!'
in 2 minutes we reached the pod, where walle required at least 10, given how it was soo far off course :/
So i guess the suggestion would be to ensure Walle has a viable path to the RV that will always take less than 5 minutes to reach - or make t-0 whenever walle gets to the RV +30 seconds
That way players still have a chance to get on, if they are able to follow Walle / reach the pod prior
while also ensuring, within the relm of reason, the only failure condition should be if all the players die / don't make it back in time
Granted saying that i have no idea how difficult/resource intensive it would be to verify Walle having a path, or estimating said paths time, given how it may have to retry a few times to find a working solution
idle quartz
Dropped too far UP or down?
tulip basin
In that case the droppod was too far up in a completly unexplored cave area
there was no clean path that we knew of so we drilled up to it
Here is an idea that could satisfy things: add an option to make the minecart follow the players back to the pod - if the players can find a way back so can walle
not as the default, since im sure some players follow the cart back
ivory stag
That's what I do
I mark it too, so I don't have to keep my pointer out to be aware of its location
There really should be a persistent marker on it though.
tulip basin
agreed
idle quartz
spray paint! hoping for it.
foggy adder
music jutbox is PRIMO!
add the music jutebox component to Dorthy... or whatever that robot horse thing is called
would be sick to play music out of it
while smashing bugs faces in
oblique walrus
This Alpha test is great! Great job Ghose Ship games!
*have you guys considered missions where the asteroid/planet is collapsing or the cave is "unstable" and can collapse? - could be used as a timer rather than get to the pod before it leaves.
*have you considered a volcanic eruption forcing the players out of a cave - make the players get deep really fast and pass lots of minerals to get the "special ore" and then they are forced to mine on the way out and avoid a rising tide of lava..?
long onyx
more gun choses for each class or a new class
brisk blaze
^ ^ ^
I will not forgive you <@&257786783666929665> if you remove the glitching barrels
or.. you can create thing with barrel instead of bull
foggy adder
never thought I'd say this.. but more unlocks and wepon upgrades would be the shit
forest wing
cant all flares be white? the red flare is such an eye sore
idle quartz
used to be that the Scout and Gunner got white flares because they';re BETTER
but then they made the red flare brighter
i kind of like the red ambiance.
forest wing
and if the devs want to make it into the f2p platform. gradient flares for premium users!
tulip basin
no. just no
this game, even in Alpha, is too good to be squandered on your F2P wishes
same goes for DLC bloat
imho
digital latch
I think it would be interesting if while the diggers flare wasn't as bright as the others, if it made the ore in a large radius around glow or something
idle quartz
already confirmed not f2p
oblique walrus
i like different coloured flares, helps identifyu who has been where , like string
tulip basin
may be, but darn its dificult to tell minerals apart under the red flare ๐
oblique walrus
would you prefer a green flare and go video blind? xD
oblique walrus
signposts would make it way too easy
tulip basin
being able to place marker flags we can more easily say 'this is the way back up'
tulip basin
yeah 'have we been here before'?
'yeah, see the flares?`
idle quartz
Hoping that a glow in the dark spray paint will become a thing for all classes
to use for marking.
oblique walrus
i need more of that exploding plant forest in my life
tulip basin
haha
oblique walrus
that would be sweet
oblique walrus
i don't appreciate suicide insects
tulip basin
lol, who does?
tulip basin
F
oblique walrus
and then boop
oblique walrus
hand grabby plants are awesome
the only thing this game doesn't have is giant worms boring holes
tulip basin
better yet, sitting building your sentry nest minding your own buisness and BOOM there goes the platform beneath your feet... SPLAT
oblique walrus
beginning of swarm = everybody get on a zipline xD
oblique walrus
it rains grenades
tulip basin
707
green magnet
the addition of a low glowing divers reel instead of the flare gun could be useful
or just something you could call in to pick it up like on a supply pod or somethin
elder pawn
Probably already suggested, but a crouch button
vagrant blaze
Discord Rich presence would be a nice feature also.
elder pawn
I got stuck so much
Panic of extraction + 999 bugs + trying to dig a path because the entrance to the drill is on the other side = Pain
vagrant blaze
Or when the drill pod for escape is hidden in the wall and you have to dig through the walls just to get into the pod..
elder pawn
^This
idle quartz
Dwarfs are always crouched
vagrant blaze
Dwarfs were once like humans till they got knee capped and became Dwarfs...
elder pawn
LOL
vast kestrel
@grim escarp How long do we have until you shut down the open alpha?
grim escarp
You have exactly 32 hours from now! (10pm CEST tomorrow night)
wary bloom
I've just found out 's weapons' reload animation finish before the actual reload completes (more noticable unupgraded), and it messes up my visual feedback for when I'm safe to switch out. I'd suggest either shortening the reload time or slowing down the animation so that the reload animation is at least as long as the actual reload, and maybe even slightly longer.
vagrant blaze
So when do we get our new keys then @grim escarp ? ๐
forest wing
There should be an enemy that can shoot you out of a zip line
right now just going going back and forth on a zipline is a very cheesy way to avoid getting killed while a huge wave is attacking
remote bear
or spiders variations that can leap
idle quartz
both! leaping spitting spiders!
remote bear
great idea!
elder pawn
this game is sure challenging to my aracnophobia lol
Leaping spiders = AltF4 as soon as I see one
forest wing
they're not that creepy. they're too colorful to get scared at
remote bear
Suggestion: Hazard 5 should be in more hardcore than it is, instead of pressing tab to see your teammates where they are located it should be removed making teamwork and staying together more essential instead of your teammates going places randomly or leaving you since its easy to navigate just by pressing tab
idle quartz
^i think an actual death penalty will be implimented for all but lowest difficulties. More friendly fire penalty in higher difficulty maybe.
brisk blaze
I haven't found a channel for questions, so...
May I ask questions here?
I guess it is ok
So
Is there anyway to become <@&304144808803565569>
(sorry regulars for tagging you <3)
deft edge
@brisk blaze mainly being active in the chat, and reporting everything you find that seems like it's not suppose to be there
the rest should happen by it's own
idle quartz
well dont report EVERYTHING you find... many things have been reported x3
and like... keep playing, keep active
deft edge
@idle quartz i mean stuff that seems like its out of place
solid dune
@vast kestrel first this is the wrong channel you should have posted in #bug-discussion second look in #378527562739220480 for a solution
vast kestrel
Ah shit, my bad. Wasn't aware it was in the suggestion channel.
solid dune
@vast kestrel :) hopefully the info in faq works for your friend
vast kestrel
Sadly it doesn't.
solid dune
Booo. Good luck then.
unborn meadow
Would be nice for the scout to be able to use his pickaxe while on the grappling hook.
delicate patrol
Suggestion
- When using the cltr tool, make it possible to mark at least 3 fixed points of interest (maybe with custom name) for better instructions/signing between players
maiden olive
Guys I noticed that there's some redundancy in a few weapons
mostly the explosion packs of the gunner and the driller
normal cradle
all i have to think of when i hear those weapons is someone spamming them and wasting all their ammo
maiden olive
well true that
but Ithink it's because theyr use is a big ambiguous
the explosion pack right now is being used like a secondary grenade that has a direct trigger instead of being timed
maiden olive
my problem is that in the hands of the driller it has a better use as a secondary clearing are tool
like when there's a floor of cave urchins
it clears the way much better than with grenades or just using the picks slowly
so my idea was for the explosion pack to be changed slightly for the gunner
to start working as somekind of land mine, that is triggered when something walkes over it without a timer
said land mine would instead of fly forward when shot it would be places straight on the ground like hen placing a turret
both are still explosives with a big area, but each with a specific use
wraith tide
Pickaxes emojies for the discord @idle quartz @light parcel
wraith tide
DRG ones tho
brisk blaze
Is there anyway to stop being sleepy without coffee?
brisk blaze
Energy drink is missing..
Math....
Pain.. That will do
OK it didn't work
Cat ran away by some reason
maiden olive
it's not a bad idea
but wouldn't be very good taking that all the flares to become sticky would be a liability
after all the amount at a time is limited, and the spaces cam be very cramped
so sticky flares could become something very annoying because of not going very far
narrow river
Would also be a nice upgrade to be able to throw flares/grenades further
maiden olive
now THAT'S something I find very useful
most of all to the explosive packs
theyr reach can be very pitiful right now making them too situational
gentle parcel
See, but that's where the scout comes in handy
I personally would like to see some skins for the characters. Don't worry about the weapons, it would just be cool to have some customizability with your characters.
supple meteor
my fear is if they add too much customization they will add unfair mtx
craggy apex
the grappling hook isnt very great-It doesnt always let me grab the ledge and I fall-more ofthen than not, granted I could be doing something wrong, but if not I'm sure it'll improve like everything else โค
maiden olive
nah, a level editor would be kinda pointless, taking that each level to a certain extent is randomly generated
and about the grappling hook, it works more like a long jump, it doesn't stick you to a wall
the moment you make contact with a surface, or release the shoot button you will fall like a bag 'o potatoes
the best use for the grappling hook it to reach higher ledges that you can actually stand on, like when an engineer places a single platform somewhere high, instead of the gunner making a zipline of one use only
the scout can go there, get what's needed then get out with no harm
mostly because the grappling gun can cancel your fall momentum, kinda like in the game just cause...
if you shoot a fewmoments before falling the hook will cancel your fall damage, so you can jump off as many cliffs as you like, as long as you know how to use the grappling gun
wary bloom
you can actually shoot the hook straight down to the ground and you'll get no fall damage
maiden olive
kinda... I think it has the limitation of not acepting some angles like the zipline
wary bloom
and the hook gives scout unreal survivability - and it lets him get to and revive his fallen teammates easily
maiden olive
tue that, but still he has very few offense habilities, and his shild seems to stand less compared to the gunner
so he is a bit of the hit and run type, wich can be a problem against swarms, he would get overwhelmed... or at least I did quite a few times
wary bloom
my main problem with scout is the spread of his shotgun - either you are right inside the mouth of whatever you want to kill or the pellets will likely spread mostly around your target
it's great against hordes of the smallest enemies but it's not very good since these are often more efficiently dispatched using the pick
and ammo is fairly scarce
maiden olive
well that's how a shotgun is supposed to work
it is intended for very short range, otherwise it won't work at all, but be sure that when you really aim in the soft parts at close range it can pack a massive punch
I as a scout managed to kill pretorian gliphyds with 3 to 4 well placed rounds of the shotgun
all you have to pay most atention is your shield
as long as you have it well upgraded the weapon's punch is almost neglegibel
digital latch
no to metion with armor upgrades, the scout gets reduced fall damage
i think it might be interesting if the diggers flare could cause ore to be highly visible
but has bad visibility overall
mabye to make another diffrence to the scout, the scouts flares could highlight monsters like the had been pinged with the laser
delicate patrol
Voice activity indicator is needed ๐
brisk blaze
^
versed nymph
and a aduio voleum option
thin knoll
more ammo for the power drill!
maiden olive
I think the power drill has enough ammo... I per se never ran out
thin knoll
well, for a game that is centered around digging, i find it frustrating i cant dig very much before my power drill runs out
i guess this only matters to people who want to explore caves.....if you just go for the morkite i guess there is enough fuel
maiden olive
it's mostly because there ain't muchto exploer if you dig straight into a commom rock wall
the power drill is mostly used on dirt walls, and some rocks when in a pinch
plus, you can increase it's fuel capacity at least once, making things easier for sure
thin knoll
well, i use it mostly to dig long tunnels to reach places you cant jump to
of course someone could put a platform / zipline etc too
atleast the pick can be upgraded for drillers, to make digging easier
calm crater
will there be MULE upgrades in the future?
lean haven
show us our own ping when we hold tab, not just other people's
supple meteor
maybe make the crystals / dots dissappear after an egg is retrieved or aquarq
potent jacinth
Well, the only suggest I have that game is fun. Erm, thats all.
supple meteor
having skills or abilities to invest a lot of credits in would be cool
im thinking like 10,000+ each
orchid nova
how do i sign up for the exlusive regulars group?
maiden olive
I don't know either, but I think it's something for the closed alfa only
vague bobcat
Are there only male dwarves? Full bearded female ftw ;P
maiden olive
yes there are only male dwarves
vague bobcat
My suggestion would be to have a full bearded female dwarf. Not sure if people would like it but it might give a good laugh since the on going joke is you can't tell the difference between male and female dwarves xD
maiden olive
but that's the main point, if you can't tell the difference, what would drive you to notice such, the stocky and bearded dwrf talking with a lady's voice?
feels a bit like wasted effort that could be placed in other area at this early point
lean haven
the scout could be a girl for all we know
vague bobcat
Just my suggestion, take it for what it is ๐
maiden olive
maybe later once the game is fully finished the devs might give it some thought
craggy apex
I dont care much for that idea, but i think it would be better implemented with some customizability to your own characters
next oxide
One thing I'm noticing in some public games is that there are traitorous dwarves which kill the entire crew
Instead of those elves taking the form of dwarves, perhaps give those pansies a more direct option?
Thinking along the lines of Dark Souls invasions, perhaps opposing crews could end up in the same game, or perhaps an option to join a game as an enemy
I'd say a goblin, because those filths would definitely encourage beating their face in.
pine path
can't the host kick them?
idle quartz
yes
but sometimes you join a game with 3 people who are friends and you are not welcome ๐
but nothing you can do about that
narrow river
I think I'll drop a couple suggestions here. After playing for a while, I noticed that markers I place really don't seem to last very long at all for some reason. So I think it'd be nice if they lasted longer. Or maybe even a seperate type of marker that persists until you clear it.
It'd also be nice to be able to choose the type of flares your character/class uses. I noticed the Engineer always uses Red flares, while most everyone else uses White flares. It'd be cool to be able to pick which color you want. Maybe not even just Red vs White, but an updrage that would allow custom flare color.
inland matrix
The engineers beard looks nothing like it does in the picture
floral wedge
It would be nice if there was some more mechanics involing marking. Perhaps the gunner is able to mark more enemies at once and for longer? Or maybe the gunner's flares can be upgraded to automatically mark enemies close to it?
And in the spirit of a "scout" class, perhaps the scout's ore markers could last for a much longer time? So the scout could run around a large cave marking all the ore veins for everyone else?
idle quartz
^would like it if the gunner could mark enemies with his bullets
idle quartz
yesss
wide moon
wouldn't that make a mess of markers
floral wedge
Well perhaps more the "highlighting" of enemies
More important than the blip and text
And maybe when the scout marks ores, the vein simply gets outlined/highlighted for a while instead of spamming blips and text
tired bolt
A sniper class that could shoot through the bug's armor and put down jump pads would be quite fun. Oh, and a system to recognize player made tunnels with players inside so we don't have stuff spawn at our feet.
near glacier
I think you need a option in the General to switch between Monitors, because some people use duel Monitors. for example I use duel screen and have to switch game into windowed to drag to my second monitor that i mainly use to gaming
near glacier
Here's an idea- throw in some kind of mission type where it all goes wrong and you have to make it through a massive rnadom cavern system to get to the second drop site. Double cost of ammo drops as well, so that it's more like a survival mode.
That's introduce some more difficult gameplay into the game
(along with this is only because I had a game glitch where we spawned miles off from the actual drop site)
(and it was hilarious and awesome)
pine path
that could be a random event before you escape
when you're near the drop pod and it somehow doesn't work or breaks
they'll send in another one and you have to wait and fight the waves of enemies you've been killing or running away from
thick gate
Markers need to last "1 per dwarf, until cancelled' instead of the 3-20 seconds they seem to last now, this limits to 4 markers on the map at once, and, means you can mark things for remember later, instead of "look here, oh its gone, let me mark again"
disagree with sniper class and spawn situation - it would only cause grief.
"sniper" ina cave, when your objective is to kill bugs and mine ore - your not really a "sniping" position. since they come from everywhere.
idle quartz
the gatling gun/revolver function as really good long range weapons atm. That said, an alternative weapon fro the scout to have a sniper rifle could be handy
as sometimes caverns can have enemies over 100-200m away
with weak spots
Not like a.. 10 bullet mega sniper rifle though. Something to pop Spitters off the ceiling.
thick gate
sniper would require able to aim - which no gun has.
only hip fire - which isn't what sniping is made for.
gunner's pistol works well for those clingers on the ceiling.
so does scout's assault rifle when you actually control your shots instead of full auto
Suggestion: Take the in game Tip to join Disord out for the "Regulars" as NONE of them are playing the game and it is misleading.
idle quartz
it just requires good accuracy, the magnum for all intents and purposes is basically a sniper rifle right now
midnight bone
i think the scout grappeling hook should have another range upgrade and maybe increase the second cooldown upgrade to 2 or 3.
seconds instead of 1 second
idle quartz
it used to be much further so the current range was already a nerf. Hopefully tweaks will come with the bug fixes
supple meteor
from watching streams and such a lot of them take forever to find out how to find aquarqs and eggs
there should be tips on how to find them
supple meteor
also when the game is released i hope there are statistics of all ores / eggs / aquarqs gathered of all time
rugged sentinel
you find them by the glowing colours on the walls @supple meteor , blue is aq and red is eggs
forest wing
Instead of the mule walking to your current position. It should instead go to where your cursor is pointing
When you call it
idle quartz
@near glacier sorry someone else was on the way and then you got in so you needed booted!
near glacier
np
worthy gate
I think the mule should have a small weak turrent doing small amounts of damage. if the game was a much longer and harder match you could upgrade it along the way
near glacier
A rope that trails behind players from the start of the game, it does nothing but follow the player allowing them to backtrack with the player being able to switch the color on command
pine path
maybe deployable waypoints
bright spindle
If in a party less than 2 players, Dreadnaughts should not spawn
idle quartz
yeah dreadnaught is not balanced for solo
dense wedge
dreadnaught need to hazve -Healf in solo just that
viscid axle
Mabye a scope of long range
novel barn
Bullets produce small light? Like the "explosion" out the barrel.
bright spindle
Muzzle Flash, is the term
And I feel that it might distract too much, honestly, but that is one opinion in a bucket of others so.... ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
delicate patrol
Suggestion
- Make the Motherlode sentries have more bullets, they always end up too fast.
- Stop the spawn of swarms when the boss is around, he already spawns mobs, it just gets worse when there are two bosses and the game still triggers a new wave.
short kernel
That's why you gotta go fast in motherlode
delicate patrol
It's my favorite game mode, it's only hard if the other players have no clue about what they are doing, but still if playing with only 2 it does get annoying the try to gather the minerals while having to stop to kill the mobs
bright flower
i hope we got a heat system that would be cool
to hot caves or to cold caves
and a ice planet or moon
near glacier
spiders that can walk on ziplines,
hollow breach
Please no. Ziplines are My one and only sanctuary
near glacier
imagine seeing them coming down the mass of zips to the platform in motherlode,
hollow breach
That was pretty much exactly What I imagined
near glacier
not saying they all should, size restricted
torn terrace
more beards, that's all this game needs
delicate patrol
I'd add to @bright flower 's idea a new class: The Scientist
He would work partially like the engineer, but his primary concern would be to support the team with both heat/cooling devices and in-level upgrades (quick buffs that the player won't keep when the game ends). Might sound OP, but I do think we need some healing class to rely less on the depoly packs. Not that the packs are bad, they're good, but I assume that the game will get harder levels when released so wasting time looking for nitra while you can focus on the objective might not help. I mean, you can rush a game going strictly to the objective and still waste all your ammo and life in the process.
๐ฟ THE SCIENTIST
๐น WEAPONS
- Pistol
- Healing gun (4/12 ammo, heals 15 life per shot)
- Cooling/heating device (mounted like the sentry, keeps a cooling/heating area around it)
- Boost Launcher (2/4 ammo, works like Scout's flare gun, increases mining speed/damage around it)
pliant olive
Just putting this in here after seeing what 3 swarms at once can do AI wise. Single swarm AI improvements to split up and come from different directions. Surround and close in tactics for the AI would be fun. Also, attempting to split up the group and single people out would be fun too.
short kernel
No don't make the big swarms even more scary
vagrant blaze
Well we could do a planetary type setup where the caves can be massive instead of pre-defined assets.
bright flower
god that would be scary
old veldt
that would be amazing.
near glacier
@near glacier I actually had a sucider get me on a zipline last night
Because it was glitched onto the zipline
Not fun
hehe
gleaming field
i suggest this games price not more than 20$ coz nobody will buy it...
light parcel
did you just assume theawesomeness of the game? There will be coming a shitload of new features.
foggy adder
Great game guys, really fun! A few things I would like to see when it goes live would be
- Couch play support to play split screen on a single computer with controllers
- More diversity with level designs, assets in the levels (e.g.) Volcaones, Lava Flow, Cave Pools, larger caverns, etc..
btw, the game ran great, almost no issues on my system. Well done gents
I'd pay $30 for this if it had a bit more longevity in level design, so that it didn't get boring in... borring ๐
light parcel
2.->Fractured Cavity is basically a huge ass cave and Green depthis many 100m deep drops
foggy adder
oh and lastly,
light parcel
So diversity is there but not free right now.
foggy adder
- More wepons and unlocks THX ๐
light parcel
3.-> I bet that will be coming when core game is closer to be done
hazy vapor
I would suggest a icon when ppl use a mic
And maybe a new class, with special ability to mark a path
dark chasm
have not read too much of the other suggestions
might be repeating =x
I understand that its a alpha and you guys prob have most of this on your list already
More classes >.> with custom loadouts (more guns, different weapons )(dam i wanna see a engineer with a flame turret or a gunner with a mini rocket launcher) ... Cosmetics
think driller's pistol is too weak =x the pick does more damage...
feel like the drill could use a little boost too
(also could we have the drill to 'mine" resources as well =x ) (i mean...its a huge drill)
special boss enemies - sleepin some where
idk for special challange rewards? guns / skins / pet?
scaling of enemies =x (im not sure but seems like its still the same amount of bugs coming at you
when its 2 players or 4 players in the team)
also the tentacle mob (i forgot the actual name) is alittle too tanky for such a small blob
could we also get a "arrow" like those at the end of the screen or around ur cross hair to lead to the "off world" drill/ship ? (my team is just like frantically lookin for it)
also im not sure but are we suppose to beable to defend ourselfs during the rush back to the "off world " drill ? cause it spawned like twice in the wall =x and my team was not really able to reach it
(though we did not have a driller) and with no clear path to the "ship" the mule was just confused and runnin in circles ...
spectator mode when ur down....
tidal basin
Would love a way to get out of leeches, if you are playing solo it is so punishing
like a tap to struggle or something
dense idol
We are working on a solo mode
tidal basin
Awesome
amber finch
For the leeches, I'd actually reccomend a system where you can struggle while you have your shield up, so even without your teammates, you can still escape from its grasp
dense idol
Well the point kinda is that you should stick with your team ๐
amber finch
This is a good point
dense idol
But we are discussing how to best make it work
whole gyro
Driller should have a beard too
crude yarrow
visual vigil
might as well just release the game now tbh
solemn sable
would get slammed for bugs
just have a casual stroll through #bug-discussion
it's alpha y'know
they don't even know how much they want to charge for it exactly
hollow breach
But just say it's early access and no one will fully complain Kappa
versed nymph
more boss like enemy and maybe a mission to attack and destroy a hive/queen really hard with some good loot
hollow breach
Yea an exterminate kinda mission
versed nymph
also maybe another tyoe of granade like a napalm or cryo
vagrant panther
Open the alpha again๐
hollow breach
Thinking maybe a "Support" grenade. You have the normal frag one. And something like you said with Cryo or Napalm
hollow breach
Sticky grenade?
versed nymph
bouncy granades
hollow breach
They're already bouncy enough
idle quartz
i still think it'd be fair to let you shoot at the leech indefense until it actually starts hurting you
sick merlin
silly suggestion but maybe make the pistol shells a bit larger on ejection, the pistol feels pretty punchy but the shells look a bit wimpy
hollow breach
Some way of atleast escaping it
idle quartz
they're so hit or miss right now
even in the dark you can spot'em pretty easy. Wish they'd be a little more hidden but then give people that 1 second to defend themself
versed nymph
melee weapons like a hammar
hollow breach
Well the pickaxe already does a good job as a melee
idle quartz
too good.
eager vale
i want a health and safety dwarf that puts signs up that say danger
so you dont fall down holes
hollow breach
That's all he does. He places signs at ledges, around exploding plants, the Urchins
hollow breach
All he talks about is the health and safety regulations
near glacier
Has guide rope too
hollow breach
Anyone who can do concept art for him? He needs one of those reflex vests
eager vale
srry about the stream i had to cut it to change output it is now up and live on my youtube PLAYING Deep rock
versed nymph
also voice chat volume
a mule savage mission where you have to find a mule that went missing
light parcel
I like the idea but 2 things:
Why would you want to get a MULE back? We have too many of them.
Other thing is it would have to be very important. I mean they just leave you in the cave when you don't make it. They give no shit about dwarfs so what do they care about even?
hollow breach
On a gameplay perspective it makes sense to have a retrieve the thing mission
Story. Not so much
But it doesn't have to be a Mule. Lets just say a rare gemstone or something like that. Normal mission in the sense that the caves are like in the Morkite gathering missions. But with a fairly easily spotted distinctive glow giving away the position of the gemstone. Brighter than the Aquarq and etc.
idle quartz
Even then, they'd probably send you down to get more of the rare gemstones and 'maybe' recover the molly if you find it
light parcel
Sounds like you are thinking of a glowstone ^ยฐ^
hollow breach
Well for a temp name it could work
versed nymph
how hard would it be to add water (lava) physics
hollow breach
Or maybe just a large pile of gemstones has been found but no Molly because she wouldn't be able to carry it all?
robust nymph
You have to think about the revive feature. How can you revive a dwarf who fell into a lava river
hollow breach
Don't know the science on Molly so can't say too much
Just go into the lava and pick him up Kappa
versed nymph
dig a new channel for the lava to flow to
or turn it to obsidian
also mabe a spectate cam if your down
hollow breach
Yea I would like to see that too. Not much to do while down except wait. Being able to spectate would help to cope when you're swarmed by 2 Dreads and 2 uncleared swarmed while one lone ranger is swinging trough the zip-lines waiting for his window of opportunity
robust nymph
zip-line kiting feels like cheating imo
versed nymph
its in the game so its not cheating
i found somthing much more cheaty but wont say so its not patched
robust nymph
Well, you should. That's the deal, you get to play the game for free, if you find something bugged, you report it
robust nymph
If you play a game, you have to play by the rules, that's what make the game fun. If you play monopoly but have unlimited money, it's not fun anymore
light parcel
Please tell it anyway. It probably is known already anyway
versed nymph
i dont know if it would work dig a hole lure the enemys in and block it off with the platform gun
robust nymph
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idle quartz
also they'd probably body block you IN the tunnel
versed nymph
as i said i havnt tested it more then once
hollow breach
Well it's also a VERY temp thing. So not really cheaty at all anyways. More are gonna keep comming
versed nymph
ya it did work except the fact 2 dreadnaunts spawned on us
robust nymph
Oh, by the way, is there a known issue about the turrets targeting molly ?
versed nymph
turrets are evil
amber finch
It's not really a bug, or something cheaty, in some regards it's a feature, but as dwarf says, they can pass through it if there is enough space, and by enough space, I mean a tiny little gap
pliant olive
Not sure but I always get the turrets love every time I turn my back to a turret. ๐
amber finch
And in reference to the turrets, Yeah, I posted someting about that before
I think it's caused if the turrets know there is another enemy near by, but cannot target it
And so they target molly instead
light parcel
Or a wall only being 1m thick >.>
amber finch
Yes, the bugs and molly love to phase through those
light parcel
I once had a Pretorian getting through a wall
hollow breach
Had molly phase through like a 10m wall at a point while heading to extraction
pliant olive
But for zip lines, could always let the bugs destory zip lines xD
hollow breach
And so Motherlode became unplayable (For me atleast)
idle quartz
motherlode? molly? molly isnt in motherlode o.o
light parcel
You just never found her ;)
versed nymph
what would happen if molly didnt reach the ship in the time limit
idle quartz
door dont open
versed nymph
so mission failed
hollow breach
Was more thinking about zip lines being breakable by bugs. That would ruin my Motherlode experience
light parcel
I believe they were working on it that Glyphids can walk on zip-lines. At least the small ones. Don't wanna think about a dreadnaught balancing on toe tips xD
hollow breach
Reminds me of an old rhyme thinking about a dreadnaught on a zipline ๐
light parcel
What rhyme?
hollow breach
It's about an elephant balancing on a spiders web iirc
light parcel
Okay?
hollow breach
Big thing walking on thin thing. That's why
light parcel
I know why but imagining the story is dofficult
near glacier
So I have a suggestion
For that save the mule mission
instead of the mule have it been the armored rocket launch pad
A previous team was sent down to do a motherlode mission and didn't make it out but the rocket is full and ready to go
So they send another team down to activate the rocket, so it would be a mix of chasm and motherlode without needing to mine since you only need to fight your way to the wrecked launch pad
hollow breach
I like the sound of that
And it would make sorta sense right? DRG wants their sweet loot
near glacier
Yep
Could have the launch pad also be infected as hell
So it's like a boss before you can get the rocket off
hollow breach
Maybe have it like a hive clear like mission too then?
Pad and the room is heavily infested with spawners and such
hollow breach
Would make sense too since It's already getting overrun by so many bugs trying to kill you to live there
And maybe. JUST MAYBE. Have a hatched alien egg?
elder pawn
I can't help but think
Couldn't they just leave the rocket there and wait for one of the bugs to inevitably hit the big red button on accident while crawling around
elder pawn
Maybe the rocket needs some parts replaced
light parcel
Dwarfโ Human
elder pawn
that would take a while
I'd expect any one except the smallest ones to step on the button and make it go boom
near glacier
PH we are dwarves mining in space without oxygen masks
Don't look too much into it c:
elder pawn
Actually wouldn't it be funny if the mission structure was like this
near glacier
I am going to make a steam post for this suggestion then
hollow breach
Game was just release. Here PH is still writing his Idea down
near glacier
After PH is done
elder pawn
Go in -> find the rocket -> eliminate nest that's been made from it -> examine -> it's broken -> call in repair supplies -> find em -> take them to rocket -> when you take one to it a radio message pops up "good job only three lef- what the hell, who pressed the launch button?!" -> it eas actually a bug that stepped on it -> you have X minutes to get the rest of the supplies and repair the rocket before it explodes and collapses the whole cave with you inside
I can't even access the forums, rip
hollow breach
Someone needs to write this down in a more organised place
near glacier
I am
elder pawn
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elder pawn
I just thought it'd be funny for a bug to step on it
But hey this actually sounds like a cool idea now that I reread it
cursive vine
Thanks for a fun weekend of testing.. I didn't report any bugs, but I see that most of them has been reported aready (btw. the glare bug has also happened for me with just the light from the Mule, but that is very minor..)!
What I would like to see:
- A way to tell Molly to move away (out of the way)!
- That the game remember my choosen character (I always started as the Gunner)!
- A way to be able to cross someones path.. I mean if they are blocking the path; a way to move passed them!
- Better MP functionality in general and game server settings should be in the selected language of the game and not the server.. Like "Fare" shows instead of "Danger" on servers in DK! It's good to have the country label, but settings should be universal I think!
Theres probably tons of stuff to think about that I forgot and ofc. this is Alpha so stuff isn't finished yet.. One thing I noticed is that sometimes stuff is happening too fast.. Theres too short timers and alerts should show on screen.. Like Swarm in 10 seconds (counter) in small text somewhere on screen (maybe top).. Theres also too litle time between Dreadnought and Swarm in the Motherlode mission.. A couple of times the Swarm attack right after the big monsters.. There are tactics to dealing with those too, so it might not be a problem..
near glacier
Okay let me copy and paste our shit down PH
elder pawn
Yeah that's the point, you should be overwhelmed
You can just remember the timings
Always takes like 3 mins or whatever between events
And they always are swarms or dreadnought
cursive vine
Ok!
calm crater
what if there was a MULE upgrade that makes the MULE run around kicking loot bugs
versed nymph
a boring machine that can dig in the direction you aim it
thin knoll
can we have axes as an additional melee weapon?
idle quartz
Make the friendly fire DR listed and easy to find, a lot of people worry about it too much even when its not an issue ๐ higher difficulty = more friendly fire
so haz5 might have full FF
deep marsh
Loved the Open Alpha! Thanks for a great time and look forward to the next evolution in the game. I kept on thinking that it would be exciting if there could be enviromental dangers. Cave ins (cave collaspe), drowings, sink holes, and maybe lava and natural gas pockets. You could even have the occasional stalagtite fall! Many of these enviromental dangers could be caused by the players.
idle quartz
Pretty much all suggested so far, but liquids and falling terrain are probably out of the question ๐ฆ we have fire and air geysers currently and a few others and more to come
forest wing
adding hard physics like water and falling debris might take a bit more work
They're just so buggy when first implimented
idle quartz
you probably noticed that very few things actually even FALL =/ platforms, turrets, downed dwarfs..
terrain itself
sharp wind
If weโre in space then technically gravity shouldnt exist
idle quartz
its gotta be an object. Bugs wont fall, but their body will because its not a "thing" anymore so its just a ragdoll
sharp wind
I like it the way things are
Over complicating things leads to more problems
Just gimme those mechs and vehicles
near glacier
drills should be able to collect resources like the pickaxe, or at least drop the nuggets
tulip basin
here is a suggestion: make the MULE something that has to be defended. since Dispatch says stuff like "this is it lads, make us proud'once you collect the quota, as if failure was not an option. This, however, is inconsistent with the "thank you for your work effort line" that indicates Dispatch, and thus the company, don't really care if us, the players make it back.
All the company seems to care about are the resources, recovering the mining team is secondary.
This is reinforced by how the mining team (players) cannot be recovered if the MULE never makes it back to the dropship.
Therefore, i prepose, that once the point-of-no-return is hit (fufilling the quota) the MULE becomes a gameobject with a healthbar that draws agro from the mobs. This would give reason to the inconsistent diolouge as well as prevent the players from simply tunniling up to the droppod via a digger trusting the mule to find its own way back.
idle quartz
^people hate escort missions though especially if it hinges on the mercy of the AI.
My idea is to remove the hard time limit, make it a survival, and molly continues to follow the players.
If molly reaches the drop pod, you win.
none of ya have to survive drg dont care
but you open the door for HER, because you're gentlemen goddamnit.
pine path
it seems logical for the drill to leave after a set amount of time tho
because the swarms are targeting the pod as well
idle quartz
they cant hurt it ;o
pine path
maybe a dreadnaught
pine path
ah