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[limpid comet]

rogue core mushrooms

[jaunty sparrow]

rogue core in 12 rock and stones

mineral and pebbles

ores and outcrop

[hushed merlin]

Tomorrow

[hexed musk]

time to press it 10k times asap

[short yacht]

Rogue core tomorrow

[cyan moat]

Played yesterday and music in gym didn't play and after we used gains to buy bear it's stopped counting them

and I was getting exact same bio boosters in one run

[thin siren]

@cyan moat You haven't played the version that will be available for early access. It will definitely be a different version.

[cyan moat]

yeah, they decided to give me closed alpha access after year of waiting and when game is almost there

[radiant comet]

Which music didn't play? From the Jukebox?

[cyan moat]

when I trained in gym in solo lobby music started blasting at some point, but as I said yesterday in multiplayer lobby it's just silence and dwarfs "ugh"

[rapid solar]

did you by any chance activate the jukebox before training in the gym when you were in solo lobby?

[cyan moat]

maybe, but i think that music probably should play when you training in gym, at least when jukebox is silent

otherwise this speaker on wall is just a decoration and it's kinda sad

it kinda funny how joining teammates in mission spawn in toilet

Like, how did you get there?

you just stuck in it until next not full team drills down to your base?

[barren panther]

Have they stated what the cost for DRGRG will be?

[inner granite]

Pins

[pallid beacon]

Probably the same as drg, no?

[paper pasture]

iirc they did state it would be around what DRG is

[finite laurel]

DRG was a little cheaper during early access than it is now, assuming they do that again for RC I think 25 usd is a fair approximation

[formal solar]

20 dollar fast deal
probably

[boreal plume]

12 days

[left bridge]

Didn't they also say that Rogue Core would likely be in a bundle so owners of DRG would get it a bit cheaper?

[short yacht]

I think I heard something like this too but I dont remember where and when

[mossy ruin]

I remmeber something like that, but maybe I'm mixing it up with alabaster dawn

so don't trust me on this

[short yacht]

I have a feeling that it was on one of the streams but again I am not sure

[boreal plume]

#rogue-core-chat message

these are my words but it was said on stream multiple times

[formal magnet]

Probably 10 or 20%

Was it confirmed for EA or just at some time

[boreal plume]

I was thinking 10% too

[boreal plume]

Bundles I don't know. DRG Survivor has a bundle, wish I had the foresight to check if it was there on early access release

[formal magnet]

I'm hoping there's a separate DRG bundle for RC+DRG rather than it being added to the Survivor bundle

I don't own survivor currently

[boreal plume]

oof I didn't think about that

[short yacht]

Probably ea

I think it would make more sense

No reason to talk about bundle so early if you dont plan doing it on release

At least in my opinion

[formal magnet]

That's true but depends on their wording

They've spoken about a final boss but that won't be for a while

[short yacht]

True that

[formal magnet]

Survivor is published by GSG but not made by them so hopefully it's a separate bundle

[short yacht]

But hey

we will definitely find out on may 20th lol

[formal magnet]

I don't see why it wouldn't be on release

[short yacht]

aka

tomorrow

[formal magnet]

I'd imagine price gets announced slightly before

They'd probably mention the bundle then if it is coming

Haven't heard of any games announcing price on release day

[mossy niche]

do we know a price of rogue core?

[short yacht]

Mate

😭

We are literally talking about it

Anyway

no

but probably similar to drg

[mossy niche]

oh sorry didn't realised

[short yacht]

Nah its ok

[boreal plume]

I think the game might still get a release week discount, so if they put it into the bundle with Survivor you could still buy it normally with a discount

though the bundle discount might give more value if it's higher but that doesn't matter if you don't plan to buy DRGS

[formal magnet]

I probably will in the summer

[white shell]

Most asked question. Use search and pinned posts

[velvet veldt]

excited for a more players mod to come to this game eventually

[echo gale]

Watching some stuff on rogue core, and they really look like they’ve fixed up incin grenades huh

[formal magnet]

they nerfed Friendly Fire 4 so it's less broken

[white shell]

Now with 50% more friendly fire deaths!

[formal magnet]

it's probably the most punishing equipment for FF now

it does a lot of small damage ticks so the 99% reduction from two people running IV doesn't help a tone

[south raft]

Have the devs said anything about the Steam Deck compatibility? I'd assume there won't be a strong optimization focus at the start, but does anyone have any hunch is it even a little bit viable?

[gaunt perch]

The main difference is the roguelite game structure. In short, this means that you start each mission with only the most basic equipment, and you collect random upgrades, gear and abilities as you go.

Not to be pedantic, but this sounds like a rogue-like. Not a rogue-lite.

I personally prefer rogue-likes, so its a positive for me.

[formal magnet]

people run it 60fps on the steamdeck

I think low-medium settings without upscaling or higher with it (not 100% sure)

main issue is small text isn't readable all the time

[boreal plume]

the game does have meta progression though

[cerulean shuttle]

do we know when the game is releasing like time of day wise

[gilded rock]

https://www.deeprockgalactic.com/roguecore

[vital elk]

Hey guys, do you have any idea how much the game will cost?

[teal lion]

Nothing specific

[boreal plume]

something between 23$-30$

[formal magnet]

what did you expect

[gaunt perch]

oh, well, made it seem like it didnt. its both then

[formal magnet]

it has enhancements which give you buffs that you can change out in between games

[short yacht]

They should rename this channel to rogue-core-NOSETPRICEYET

[feral obsidian]

btw is there something special we need to do to get the playtest?

[tall plume]

request access on the store page, that's about it

[feral obsidian]

oh okly

[inner granite]

Ping gold chunk, mishroom and bone (in that order) 1000 times in the row to get +0.001% chance

Yes, it is possible to do in single mission

Bonus points for rare mushrooms

-# to be clear, this is a joke

[lament abyss]

is it me or is the game just infinitely loading upon start up?

[formal magnet]

the dwarf running forever?

I had that happen a few times on DRG but not RC, restarting usually fixes it

[exotic matrix]

Finally got around to trying out the playtest, and it's neat but wow those core cralwers are nasty, game's definitely way harder out the gate just from them being the fodder, feels like they take a lot more punishment, and are a lot more prone to flanking to boot.

[formal magnet]

They're a lot smarter than the bugs and use the full 3d layout to their advantage

Though the crawlers aren't the common fodder that's the Creepers, crawlers are still here though

[exotic matrix]

Oh, yeah, the creepers.

That and armour not being rechargable is kind of a killer, really gotta lock in pretty hard.

Killer in the sense of that it makes chip damage a major threat, I mean.
Still seems enjoyable, but that's definitely gonna take some adjusting to.

[shy prism]

I'm watching a video of Rogue Core gameplay, it looks kind of fun, but at the same time, it doesn't look like something you can late join in.

And also, it seems like something you could really screw up by disconnecting due to bad internet connection.

Actually, I think I will buy Rogue Core then.

[tall plume]

you can late join but it's restricted to the 1st level only

[shy prism]

I really think it looks like a cool game but having played Risk of Rain 2, it seems like it demands a lot more co-ordination than Deep Rock Galactic or RoR2.

[lament anchor]

are they doin anymore test waves?

[shy prism]

How long do the missions tend to last? For some reason I was expecting like longer than a Deep Dive.

[tall plume]

yeah, that's the intent behind it. Not hard to make it more co-op coordinated than RoR2 - who has almost no co-op intraction tbh 😄

[tall plume]

varies a lot depending on depth and player skill but it's around 45-50min

[shy prism]

I would say my biggest fear in Deep Rock Galactic is managing to upset other players somehow and I don't want to be the person that ruined it for everyone by taking the wrong item or something.

[tall plume]

there's definitely the possibility of friction - and sometimes people will be selfish or pig-headed. But that can happen in DRG just the same, it's just more noticeable in Rogue Core.

The intent is for people to have to play and co-ordinate together to be able to win consistently.

I think the experience will be rough in the starting weeks, it'll take time for players to adjust.

[shy prism]

I guess it's more "winnable" than something like Risk of Rain 2 then?

With roguelikes like RoR2 and Hades II and stuff, the game is about failing forward until you eventually beat the big boss at the end, and you're expected to fail hundreds of times before your first win.

And then from what I understand with Rogue Core, each run is kind of like a normal mission in Deep Rock Galactic, so the runs are shorter and the stakes are lower, and failure doesn't hurt as much.

[exotic matrix]

Eeeh, frankly I'd say risk of rain 2 is a lot more chill because you have a much easier time keeping track of your surroundings.

Or more specifically, the enemies in your surroundings.

[shy prism]

Isn't that just a side effect of it being a third-person game?

[exotic matrix]

Tighter quarters, faster enemies and less forgiving chip damage makes for a very tough beginner experience, dunno how much, if at all, that changes with experience and upgrades.

[shy prism]

It seems like Rogue Core's shields don't recharge, and I don't think I'll like that much.

[jaunty sparrow]

before its out is there any rc etiquette

[umbral tendon]

Lots, the most annoying being that guy that refuses to do the group upgrade when everyone is standing there waiting for them, When there is 3+ upgrades ofc

Not being AFK in the loading screen helps

And if you dont require the upgrade, waiting a small amount of time for people to select what they want

If your host and someone is joining mid level, go back and help them. If you are selecting equipment wait for them to join so they can select

[tall plume]

yeah, there are some strategies and etiquette being shared around

[exotic matrix]

Haven't gotten to do more than a couple runs of deep core, but I think the difficulty spike straight from the start might put a lot of people off, by the looks of it.

It's pretty unforgiving.

[umbral tendon]

Oh well, im here to play with people who are willing to figure things out

Its actually more fun to go back and play with the newer players since Depth 1 is actually kind of challenging

[exotic matrix]

I guess I just worry about the balancing of the difficulties, particularly about learning curves, because depth 1 feels like it would be hazard 3-4 in DRG and that's a bit puzzling to me.

[tall plume]

Rogue Core is intended to be much harder than DRG

[exotic matrix]

Like there's no lower difficulty for you to gear up a bit in before you dive into the hard stuff.

It's just all hard stuff and that can easily feel bad if said hard stuff is balanced around having upgrades you'll only get after a lot of grinding.

I'm not saying it's bad for it to be harder, I'm just worried that the lowest difficulty is still so high that it might repel a lot of people who would enjoy the game once they've otherwise gotten a loadout set up and such.

[weak kelp]

If new players are needing an easier time they can try normal DRG. If they already play DRG they can try higher hazards on it to prep for RC.

I don’t even play on depth 1 anymore because I consider it far too easy.

[exotic matrix]

That's not prep for rogue core, it's not even close.

[shy prism]

Would you say that Deep Rock Galactic's Hazard 5 is like Depth 1 Rogue Core?

[weak kelp]

Nah

Not even close

[exotic matrix]

A huge difference is that you get difficulties before hazard 5.

[exotic matrix]

It gives you space to get gear, upgrades, etc.

[weak kelp]

Depth 1 is like Haz 3 with randoweiser

[shy prism]

Oh, that's not so bad.

[weak kelp]

Yeah, there’s just habits you gotta pick up on like not playing slowly.

[shy prism]

So what's there in terms of progression? Does Rogue Core have cosmetics and upgrades that carry between runs?

[weak kelp]

You can carry up to 8 passive perks which you unlock over time.

[exotic matrix]

Emphasis being "over time".

In DRG you get the lower difficulties to, ya know, unlock perks, upgrades, etc.

[weak kelp]

Yes, that’s how progression works.

[shy prism]

It's very far behind me now but I do kind of hate how slow Deep Rock Galactic is to give you access to overclocks and stuff, given that literally everybody uses them.

That's kinda weird.

[exotic matrix]

Yeah, and now take DRG and remove everything below hazard 4.

[weak kelp]

RC progression is much quicker

I honestly prefer it over having to upgrade weapons over and over again.

[tall plume]

okay and what's the issue ?

[weak kelp]

Skill issue

[tall plume]

I can only copy/paste so many times that the intended experience is harder than DRG - which happens to be a very casual game.

it will turn people away.

But also : DRG is not going anywhere, it's still going to be here for this specific experience it brings.

I'm not saying it's bad for it to be harder, I'm just worried that the lowest difficulty is still so high that it might repel a lot of people who would enjoy the game once they've otherwise gotten a loadout set up and such.

This is exactly what you're saying though.

[exotic matrix]

My point is that with DRG you HAVE the lower difficulties to at least get your bearings, get some upgrades, etc.

[weak kelp]

The majority of players who suck at RC (which included me) simply do because they’re new and try to play RC like DRG, which is the wrong way to play.

[exotic matrix]

Here it's straight into the grinder.

[tall plume]

again, that's the intended experience.

[exotic matrix]

My entire fucking point is that you don't have an onboarding ramp, so to speak, for people to ease into the gameplay.

It's not an experience, it's a fault.

[tall plume]

It's not

not liking something =/= a flaw in design

it would be a flaw if the design didn't reflect the intended experience - but it does

[weak kelp]

I feel like a lot of these complaints would get lumped into soulslike games which are, like RC, difficult by design.

You are expected to lose.

[brave pilot]

Or other roguelites, even

[tall plume]

Roguelites are very much a "lose more until you win" genre of games

failure is very much part of the intended experience

[brave pilot]

Anyways I just realized the alpha is still open and finally booted it for the first time

I just did the tutorial and now I'm scared to actually boot a game lol

[tall plume]

you don't have to be scared

the game isn't going to come out of your screen to racket you, you'll be fine

[brave pilot]

It's just a thing that happens to me when I'm faced with the prospect of losing

[tall plume]

worst thing happen, you'll lose your first run, that's not the end of the world

[brave pilot]

I want to get good at this game but I suck at handling losses

[weak kelp]

That’s why failed runs have a more generous xp payout, you’re expected to learn from your mistakes, pick yourself back up and get back in there. If that ain’t ur cup of tea go play a cozier game.

[tall plume]

you're gonna have to face that a lot in many aspects of your life, might as well get a headstart on learning to handle it

[brave pilot]

more generous xp payout, compared to normal DRG?

[weak kelp]

Very

You get xp payouts for every floor you complete, not whether or not you beat the whole thing.

Like a deep dive.

[brave pilot]

got it

[weak kelp]

Also progression isn’t merely tied to wins, there’s tons of objectives to progress through that your constantly rewarded for, even with mission losses.

[brave pilot]

Okay, one more question, do people in Rogue Core tend to use vc more often than in normal DRG or nah

Actually does the game even have a vc function

[weak kelp]

I haven’t seen any more, but it does have a VC function that works well.

[brave pilot]

ok cool

[fleet ledge]

Having multiple weapons feels like a bad idea

[exotic matrix]

Not wrong, but at the same time most others usually have a lot more 'big' progression early on, basically a sort of soft tutorial segment.

This game doesn't have that, it's just knuckle down until you climb the annoying initial spike.

It being multiplayer kinda just makes that worse since losing a run because of a mistake or being inexperienced can feel like it's you wasting everyone else's time, too.

Again, difficult isn't bad, I do object to it being this difficult on the STARTER difficulty though.

Also personally I just hate how much the creepers blend in, even in lit-up areas, due to both being dark in colouration and being so low to the ground.

[weak kelp]

Sounds like you would benefit playing as spotter

[exotic matrix]

Probably, as I've had good success at that role.

[weak kelp]

In what way?

[exotic matrix]

They might be thinking of the whole bit of spreading ugprades out between weapons, or that having only one weapon gives you 50% more ammo for the one you do have.

You chew through ammo quite fast with how tanky even just creepers are.

[weak kelp]

It really depends on the build you run, but having a single target weapon for one weapon a crowd controller for the other is a good strategy for quick adaptability.

[fleet ledge]

Ammo is a pain point. Though the true one is investment, which is a problem or rather a characteristic of rougelikes in general imo.

[weak kelp]

I will admit I usually aim for 1 weapon, but that’s because I main a class that can handle crowd control without a weapon.

[exotic matrix]

Yup.
Also, this game is 100% gonna have a bit of a painful period of balancing to start out with imo once the early access starts out, I know some people loooove the super-hard start experience but I just don't think that's gonna be great for appeal.

Basically just reiterating my entire starting point, that being that depth 1 is just too hard for being a "fuck around to get a feel for what works" difficulty.

[fleet ledge]

the construction of the machine the, run winning machine

its usually always better to build around one thing and do that one thing well, great, amazing.

and thats not rouge cores problem specificly

[exotic matrix]

You are a tad bit at the mercy of the map generation as far as ammo's concerned, yeah.

[fleet ledge]

though having the option to neuture yourself feeles odd

[weak kelp]

I’ve found that both strategies work well for different reasons.

If you have 2 weapons, you have twice the chance of getting upgrades for weapons to be good, not to mention some weapons synergise amazingly with each other.

[fleet ledge]

Im curious which ones

I haven't really found anything that combos

[high harbor]

Wow i am always dying at the elevator. It is so hard to solo

[fleet ledge]

especially compared to some of the drg weapon combos

[weak kelp]

Cadna field projector is the perfect example of this imo. Its shots are super slow and bad for range but they cover a wide radius, have infinite blowthrough and can block projectiles. Empty a clip of it to give yourself breathing room then swap to your other weapon to target ranged enemies or enemies with lots of hp.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve ripped up the boss since the field projector was my shield while my other weapon was my sword.

[weak kelp]

Repairing the elevator can be tricky but try kiting and saving your grenades for defending the generator since they group up on it.

[fleet ledge]

the cadna feels like an outlier than more so the rule. Also seeing other dwarves turn that thing into a dps machine with investment kinda just loops into having the one weapon. Im not saying youre wrong just the feeling ive picked up on.

[teal lion]

We havent been informed of new waves and theres only a week and a half left till early access so chances are slim but not nil

[exotic matrix]

The early access starts on the 20th, a new playtest wave before that starts just doesn't make much sense tbh.

[weak kelp]

Any shotgun works great as a secondary weapon too, and trust me when I say this, the Cadna CAN’T hurt the final boss.

I’ve had immense regrets trying to only use the Cadna for a whole run.

[high harbor]

need to grind and die until you get the privillege to even have grenades too. But yeah starting off is quite brutal

[weak kelp]

Ngl I forgot there was a grenade grind because grenade throwing lacked controller binding for the longest time so I ignored getting grenades lol.

Each class should have a way to manage defending though. What class are you running?

[teal lion]

I agree solo ammo is a pain point, but the game aint designed for solo i havent played much team play but the little i have it feels easier to manage ur ammo hence why in solo due to sucking i have tended to use the guy who can toss out extra ammo lol

[weak kelp]

I find solo to be much easier for amo than teams. You get 2 ressuplies compared to only one in co-op play.

[teal lion]

Yeah the onboarding/limitation of items to not overwhelm definitely feels like we want you to die, kinda why i was miffed of why sentry turrets interactables were locked so far down (havent played in several alphas) its like oh sure now u give me some more help would of been helpful earlier game - but thats more from my solo experience which aint the intended experience i know

[exotic matrix]

Yeah that one was odd to me too, tbh.

Sure, fine, dying when it's not your fault is fine, but it can feel a little sour when you know there's resources that could've helped you avoid that, that you're just... not allowed to have yet.

It also just kinda takes a while to get back to the station after a defeat, imo that needs to be sped up a ton if they expect people to die a lot right at the start.

Other roguelite games mostly avoid that issue by just not spawning those resources in if you can't use them anyways that run.

[random knoll]

Hello, uh, question. Will steam be able to cross-play to someone on xbox?

[boreal plume]

Yes there will be one more wave next week

[old swift]

yeah run starts are glacially slow imo

compared to basically any other similar game

ive complained about it since i got access but no luck so far

[boreal plume]

No and there are no plans for crossplay

[old swift]

barrier is my least favorite part because it has literally 0 gameplay to it, could be a cutscene

[random knoll]

Darn. Okay. Well thanks tho.

Its kinda sad i have to single out a singular friend in my group because they only have an xbox tho

[boreal plume]

The microsoft store version might able to do crossplay with xbox

Though I'm not sure about that

But you won't be able to play with steam players?

[random knoll]

Alright

[boreal plume]

This is info about DRG crossplay, might be similar for RC https://www.deeprockgalactic.com/crossplay-info

[brave pilot]

Okay I'm back from my first expedition

I actually won

[weak kelp]

Nice

[boreal plume]

11 days left

[tiny hemlock]

I can't wait for the Rogue Core memes

Imagine people speaking unspeakable horror of Rogue core

[brave pilot]

"How can I enjoy this, there are no scouts to C4"

[boreal plume]

there's slicer to C4

[weak kelp]

Except he has the C4 since he’s a scout and driller combined.

[tiny hemlock]

DRG be like: We're Rich! Mushroom! rock and stone

Rogue Core be like:

Running away from the unspeakable horror
"Hey guys scott here this is bad real bad"

[brave pilot]

We fight the unspeakable horrors, so that the miners can smile, not having to worry about the unspeakable horrors that we fight

[tiny hemlock]

Imagine in future Rogue Core updates, we'll get missions where we have to rescue the DRG miners

Either gunner or engineer

[brave pilot]

Rescuing and protecting a VIP sounds like it'd rock

[tiny hemlock]

Maybe all of them having reasons why they're trapped, Driller's Drill broke down and out of fuel, Scout lost his grappling hook, Engineer ran out of cheese for his cheese launcher, Gunner's Ziplines broke after a mactera attack

[sweet yoke]

never played DRG but i got a code for RC

hope everyones doing well

[tiny hemlock]

Get DRG, you're missing out on the shenanigans

[brave pilot]

I'm good

[sweet yoke]

shenanigans you say

[boreal plume]

enjoy

[tiny hemlock]

Hope they bring back rock and stone call-out

[boreal plume]

yea that's in the game

no brainer to bring it back

[tiny hemlock]

I might have to cop this game, forget wardogs, Rogue core is where it's at

With how Successful DRG is, I have faith in Rogue core

[brave pilot]

The main reason I play DRG over something like Helldivers is because I don't like the latter's gunplay

[boreal plume]

they are definitely cooking

[tiny hemlock]

I must be there on Day 1 I might have to stay up late just for this

[brave pilot]

Like, why am I not allowed to shoot bad guys unless I'm lying down on the ground completely still

[tiny hemlock]

My favourite part of DRG is the overclocks

[boreal plume]

I'm counting down the days to release date instead of my birthday

[tiny hemlock]

Green are ok OCs with no downside
Yellow is at the middle
Red is where the good stuff is at with some added downsides

[modest condor]

<t:1779296400:R>

[brave pilot]

DRG's progression is cool too

[weak kelp]

I’ve made headcanon archetypes for every character.

Spotter: the straight man, internally dying inside and a bit paranoid.

Slicer: Energy of a scout and the brain of a driller, addicted to combat cocktail and running towards leeches (will sometimes kill them).

Guardian: Dense as a brick and the nicest dwarf you’ll ever meet.

Falconer: Almost exclusively tries to change the conversation to become educational, way too obsessed with explaining how electronics work.

Retcon: Has the highest death count (not kill count), least functioning nerves and forgets other people can feel pain. Also forced to go to therapy for anger management.

[brave pilot]

But I can confidently say I tried Helldivers once and the gunplay totally alienated me

If I ever want to play a coop FPS game then I'm sticking with DRG

[weak kelp]

Helldivers is good if you want to keep dying to win.

It’s made to make you feel like the pawn of a chess set

[brave pilot]

I just feel like the gunplay is so frustrating

Even slow weapons like shotguns feel incredibly hard to handle

[weak kelp]

I don’t have an opinion on the gunplay, as I haven’t played it, but I’ve seen enough gameplay to know that it would not jive with me.

[brave pilot]

Everything else about the game is probably fine but I just had such a miserable first impression

[obtuse cargo]

The game doesn't look like my thing but falconer looks fun

Jared is cute

🐦‍⬛

[carmine zenith]

birt

[brave pilot]

Is that the name we gave the Falconer's little bird thing?

[obtuse cargo]

That's what I hear people call it

[boreal plume]

Harolds cousin Jared

[brave pilot]

Oh ok

[obtuse cargo]

If I don't get into the game as much as drg I hope they add Jared to drg

[olive oasis]

does anyone know how much rogue core is gonna cost?

[boreal plume]

We don't have an exact price now, estimates range from 23$ to 30$. The devs said it would be priced similar to DRG

[obtuse cargo]

A tank of gas

[olive oasis]

well i guess I didnt need my second kidney anyway

[jaunty sparrow]

cogue roge in 11 days

[hushed merlin]

Tomorrow

[obtuse dock]

Is there a way to return the Slicer to their original look?

[pallid stream]

Rogue core is coming out the same day as my comp math exam 🙁

[obtuse dock]

With the knight helmet?

[daring hill]

yep

its a cosmetic

[obtuse dock]

Thanks!

[jaunty sparrow]

Will rogue core have

[whole sparrow]

how long is the tutorial swarm 💀

turn out there was something wrong so had to restart

[tiny hemlock]

I heard Rogue core will be different from the DRG we knew

This time we can't really stay in one place for too long

Not only we're up against a swarm but unspeakable horror that ensures we're always on our toes, we can't kill it but we can only slow it down

Imagine the reason why there's a swarm after us alongside the mysterious beast is that the swarm is running away from it

[whole sparrow]

I was pointing toward tutorial swarm lasting an unusually long time (I ran out of my rifle ammo and had to rely on melee)

[tiny hemlock]

Yeah, your best bet like your average DRG game is to go fast

[whole sparrow]

there wasn't any tutorial popup neither so had to restart

[whole sparrow]

I was on the tutorial level

not the normal matches

[boreal plume]

seems like they mean it was a bug

[tiny hemlock]

I think some Glyphid or Mactera is messig with the game's code

[boreal plume]

[short yacht]

Rogue core

tomorrow

[daring hill]

why is this the tf2 achievement colour palette lol

[carmine zenith]

you may be a little color blind

[tender sage]

Not seeing anything in the pinned post, sorry if it's been asked a million times already. Anyone know if cosmetics earned during this prerelease period will carry over to the full game?

[daring hill]

they will not, no

saves will be totally wiped

that was always the plan, but when this latest update dropped they enabled a cheat terminal for a short time, so people could just skip to the end of progression

[boreal plume]

nothing will carry over to early access

[candid orchid]

I think I found a huge bug

if you get Cooper's rocket damage up to 100% it increases his machine gun damage by 10x

I've done it twice now

He's doing over 100 per bullet

[weak kelp]

Yep, that’s known.

Feel free to break cooper until they patch it, I got him up to over 1 Million damage in a run.

[lament abyss]

so what happens when early access ends, do those who participated get the game for free or... do we still have to buy it?

i mean like, i dont mind paying for it, outstanding game

just curious

[daring hill]

we aren't in early access yet, but yes

there will supposedly be a bundle for existing DRG owners

[tender sage]

@~$23 according to the pinned post

[lament abyss]

ah i see

[whole acorn]

what % of people that signed up for the playtest do we think got accepted?

would be a cool stat to see them release because i feel like im really unlucky

[scenic ice]

Same

I've been in the list since the start of playtest🙈

[boreal plume]

Last november they said that the people who applied were in the hundreds of thousands

I don't know if they've said how many people were invited but if I had to guess the total invites over a year, maybe around 50k

This week they said a few thousand were sent out, and this wave is supposed to be one of the smaller ones

[whole acorn]

still SUPER excited to play rogue core on release, been avoiding any spoilers for a couple months now
a good amount of games are coming out this year that i actually like, rogue core, subnautica 2, minecraft dungeons 2, slay the spire 2

[tiny hemlock]

Same here minus avoiding the spoilers

[wild kiln]

I find it cool how they gave spotter enemy radar which in DRG is just a mod

Also how weapon ui also displays max ammo and not just the current ammount

I hope it will also be implemented in regular DRG

[daring hill]

ehhh

that'd just be UI clutter in DRG

your max ammo will never change during a mission there

[wild kiln]

Would be useful for resupplying

Knowing when you reach halfway trough reserves

[tiny hemlock]

Btw how do tou resupply?

You gotta collect Nitra?

[wild kiln]

Yes

[daring hill]

maybe, but that would be better shown with an ammo percentage, like that one mod

[boreal plume]

In RC the resupply pods will be in the stages themselves, you won't call them down or collect anything for them. You just find them during the stages.

[boreal coyote]

resupplies are present already on the map since you cant call in them

[formal magnet]

Armour essentially gives you an extra 50% hp as long as it's active

[clear abyss]

Wait this game releases on 20th?

[formal magnet]

yh

soon

[boreal plume]

remember when people thought it was March 20th? Good times

[vestal patio]

Man I'm gonna rogue my core so good when its out

[exotic matrix]

Still a threat since armour doesn't recharge on its own, is what I meant.
Compare it to shields in DRG, those take all damage AND recharge if you're not being damaged for a bit, so those give you some wiggle-room for damage.

Meanwhile here, unless you're retcon, you just never want to get in melee range whatsoever for any reason, far as I can tell.

[short yacht]

What if reclaimers say “rogue and core” instead of ”rock and stone”

[formal magnet]

you get at least 3 X 50% recharges a stage so it's not too hard to get but the passive regen not being there is a downside

[gleaming musk]

very important question to ppl who got beta acces before i buy the game

is there beer

[boreal plume]

yes

[gleaming musk]

peak

[formal magnet]

currently the DRG line-up of beers minus ||RandoWiser||

sadly it hasn't been added yet

[dire schooner]

theres prob no way to add it for weapons so they prob see it as meaningless

[formal magnet]

there's still ||Enhancements|| and|| Bio Booster|| decks that can be changed though that's less impactful then weapons in DRG

there is a game mode like RandoWiser that is very fun though

[boreal plume]

I was skeptical about gauntlets at first

Glad to hear it's fun

[formal magnet]

I find them more fun than the normal missions but that's not to say the normal missions aren't fun

[short yacht]

Btw shiro this is offtopic but who is the artist who drew gunner icon you have as your pfp

I really like it

[boreal plume]

u/BigStwongCreativeMan on reddit

He posted on the server too, let me see if I can find it

Reddit is down for me rn

[short yacht]

I found it #fan-art message

Ty

[boreal plume]

[wanton oak]

yes, plus theyre free (almost)

you gotta work out for a beer

[exotic matrix]

Instead of paying for the beer with money, you do some minigames for them.

You also can get mini-quests to unlock various beers which basically want you to do certain amounts of reps in the various workout-themed minigames.

No buffing beers exist atm, I think.

[short yacht]

All beers are buff beers

they buff your morale and battle spirit

[formal magnet]

none rn

Hoping we more beers

[boreal plume]

THEY DID IT

[formal magnet]

just got added

[lament anchor]

I lowkey hate how much there is on the HUD. Wish a not of info was in another menu

[formal magnet]

you can change it in settings if you want to hide the XP meter and upgrades

same for the number of terminals and stuff

[lament anchor]

I still want to be able to see it. Just in the select menu

[formal magnet]

wdym by classic menu

[lament anchor]

Classic?

[formal magnet]

oh I missread

[lament anchor]

I just want the redundant info like upgrades and xp (maybe timer and ammo count if its on all the weapons) hidden by default. Make it so you have to hold tab to see it. Makes it so looking makes you vulnerable && makes the games atmosphere better

[formal magnet]

most weapons have an ammo counter not all though

I like seeing all the data at all times but having an option for it to appear on lazer pointer or map could work

[lament anchor]

Feels like a EA or Ubisoft game. Like seeing the numbers on damage. It doesnt feel like an arcade DRG its feeling like a looter shooter

Less is more yk. Thats why helldivers felt so nice

[formal magnet]

you can disable the numbers

[rugged hornet]

where all the EU testers at ? 🙁

[formal magnet]

game just updated so make sure you're on the newest version

[rugged hornet]

^ 😄

update ahoy !

[formal magnet]

the Alpha channels say the patchnotes

[little hazel]

so been playing DRG to celebrate rogue core coming out... but I really don't know much of RC. how is it different than DRG?

[strong salmon]

Recommend watching some dev streams of rogue core since itll illustrate the differences better than anyoen can explain them in a single post but prob the shortest way of explaining it would be that RC is a dungeon crawler where you build your characters weapons and perks throughout the mission while DRG is a bit more freeform in its world generation with fixed loadouts and perks

[formal magnet]

almost everything

[shy prism]

So I was watching a video of someone playing Rogue Core to get an idea of what it's like.

And I was thinking to myself, oh my god this guy is an idiot, what the hell is he doing?

He took 2 resupplies immediately?

And then I saw in the comments that the guy said he hasn't played Deep Rock Galactic before.

[boreal plume]

there will be people that haven't played DRG at all trying Rogue Core out

that's why GSG is also focusing a lot on new player experience

[short yacht]

I dont care if they played DRG before, if you dont rock and stone YOU AINT COMING HOME, sorry I dont make the rules

[formal magnet]

solo or coop?

in solo it's common

[exotic matrix]

In solo there's a good chance you have so many resupplies on the map that it's more about the armour than the ammo at times.

[mossy ruin]

• if it was the resupply at the entrance, there's a decent chance you won't go back for it anyway

[exotic matrix]

Yeah, if the distance is big enough you might as well just take advantage of the resupplies before you go too far ahead for it to be worth it to go back.

The constantly ticking timer on the top left and all that.

[formal magnet]

I usually just resupply in solo for my traversal since I use ||anti grav|| a lot

[grave fractal]

Anyone know how rogue core is looking on steam deck in terms of compatibility and performance by any chance?

[formal magnet]

it runs but some of the text isn't readable

[grave fractal]

Oh that’s not too bad, I’ll be playing it with others in the same room so I’ll be able to read that way. Ty!

[alpine heart]

hello
did we get an estimated price on rouge core?

[foggy anvil]

not yet

[formal magnet]

roughly 23 but no confirmation

[midnight kernel]

anyone wanna see rogue core cut content

[velvet veldt]

what cut content like the gorgon?

[midnight kernel]

gun

i can send in media hang on

i dont think this made it

see it?

was rogue core meant to be avout

the deep rock crew

orignally

[formal magnet]

the only cut guns I've seen are DRG guns that weren't ported over usually for not working well in RC gameplay loop

might be added later on but not currently

[midnight kernel]

i have an earlier ver of rogue core

back when it used a LOT of drg assets

pre closed alpha

i can show ya it in dms

if ya want

cant stream here sadly

[formal magnet]

I'm not really interested in cut content

I mostly just data mine stats and get old models of stuff but they're all in the files currently for what I need

[midnight kernel]

this is REAAALLY old

for some reason

the voiclines are the og DRG crew

but they say shit

like cooper

so its not just ported over

[tall plume]

and how did you happen to get this ? 🤔

[midnight kernel]

there was closed tests run on steam

back in early 2025

theres some vids on yt still

from waay back

around alpha 2

[tall plume]

ah, alpha 2 content

[midnight kernel]

this isnt alpha 2

i just mean

its around that time

id sum it up as

what the pre alpha

was to DRG

its really cool how

you were supposed to play as the OG crew

either that

or they used the old VA as temp

[tall plume]

it's not really a secret that Rogue Core was first developped to be for DRG before becoming its own game

the devs have talked about it before

[midnight kernel]

so my ver

is kinda inbetween then

all the voicelines are from the beta

sorry

DRG ver

[tacit urchin]

Probably alpha 1

[midnight kernel]

are these even in the current files

[tacit urchin]

What is?

[midnight kernel]

its pre alpha 1 i think

[tacit urchin]

Can't be

[midnight kernel]

the old VA

[tacit urchin]

Those are placeholder voicelines

[midnight kernel]

it has a ton of placeholders

they arent

[tall plume]

mind you telling me where you got this, again ?

[midnight kernel]

they are 100% from the older era

steam i tested the game like everyone else

[tacit urchin]

It then can't be pre alpha 1 as the oldest version distributed through steam was alpha 1

[midnight kernel]

it could be alpha then idk

[tall plume]

nobody doing testing got access when the game was still using the DRG models.

[midnight kernel]

did alpha 1 have

that old level select

its not using DRG models

just the VA

[tacit urchin]

VA is normal

[tall plume]

We had the VA for quite some time yeah

[midnight kernel]

what about uh

what biomes

were in alpha 1

[tacit urchin]

Some were cut, yes

I don't remember which though

[tall plume]

there was no glacial strata and no magma core, for one

I think it was only like 3-4 biomes at first

[midnight kernel]

heres mine

azure weald

crystal caves

fungus bogs

ice cabes

lush downpour

radioactive zone

salt pits

and finally core

arent a lot of these from DRG

[tall plume]

they're all from DRG except the core - which isn't a selectable biome in itself

[midnight kernel]

huh interesting

whats lush downpour tho

[hollow bear]

dunce whyozone

[tall plume]

internal name for dense biozone

[midnight kernel]

am i just looking into it too much

[tall plume]

yeah, sounds like it

[tacit urchin]

Yeah

[midnight kernel]

what would let us know

if it is indeed alpha 1

[tacit urchin]

Opening the game

[midnight kernel]

it is open

[tall plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8qvonDEQMg

if you're curious, here's some Day 1 alpha footage

[tacit urchin]

What does it say on the left side of the screen?

[midnight kernel]

nothing

[hollow bear]

the old bar location was pro

[midnight kernel]

is it supposed to say smth

yeah i saw the intro vid

no bar

also the omega line

isnt in mine

it said the welcome to DRG one

[tacit urchin]

Yeah... theres supposed to be a giant bar on the left side of the screen saying the version of the game and level seed

[midnight kernel]

probably just glitched

ooh what about tutorial videos

[jaunty sparrow]

rogue core in 10 tomorrows

[maiden carbon]

do we have any idea as to what the big dwarf in the background is?

[daring hill]

in the key art in the video above?

thats a clamorhead

[daring hill]

I still want to know what keycards were planned to be....

since it seems they've dropped the concept entirely

[dark stone]

i thought it was the boss monster?

[vital stone]

the game is alright I guess

but is not looking good

[daring hill]

how so?

[vital stone]

game mechanics...

[daring hill]

ok? No need to elaborate I guess

roguelikes aren't for everybody

[vital stone]

so defensive lol

I like roguelikes actually

[velvet veldt]

what type of game mechanics are not good

[vital stone]

the core ones

[daring hill]

its just that people have a habit of critiquing rogue core but never elaborating, even if their critiques are sound and valid

and it still receives so much negativity because GSG doesn't want to just endlessly work on seasonal DRG updates forever

[vital stone]

I already sent my complains to the team using their feedback system I don't feel like I need to elaborate here

[velvet veldt]

like the roguelite upgrade system? the progression?

[daring hill]

the shared upgrades system I assume

and while I get it, and I absolutely think there are missteps (why the fuck are we explicitly RANKING upgrades visually??? everyone is going to grab legendaries regardless of their actual value to their build, because "wow le bright colour!!!!"), I think it's ultimately better off for not playing it safe

and I'd rather they add a new system of individual upgrades rather than gutting the shared upgrades

[vital stone]

the combat for me personally feels to punishable, it demands precise shooting and some og drg guns aren't build for that

[daring hill]

yeah no uh

most of the DRG weapons are bad

[velvet veldt]

ive heard there isnt many aoe builds for rogue core

[daring hill]

the warthog is nice because theres upgrades that trigger on-hit but everyone else tends to be kinda bad

[vital stone]

enemies have a lot of armor so aoe would do nothing

[daring hill]

not intentionally? AOE is usually a result of just killing enemies really fast

and the few explicit crowd control options are weak on their own, so you supplant them with other weapons or upgrades

a good example is the PGL

on its own, it's rather weak

but theres an upgrade that makes the first round of a magazine be a guaranteed 100% crit. so every grenade crits

[vital stone]

also the enemies strafe a lot and swarm you easily with not a lot of AOE is like being scout and trying to kill swarmers

[daring hill]

and you can pair that with stuff that boosts reload speed, so you can pump out grenades really fast

[vital stone]

is that same feeling

[daring hill]

yeah I have had more than my fair share of runs that have died really early

because the game threw a lot of enemies at us, but didn't provide much killing power

[vital stone]

yeah

[daring hill]

ultimately its a problem of not enough content, but shrugging and going "it's early access!!!" helps nobody

[vital stone]

idk I don't think is a content issue they can just rework the guns

we have already to be actually good

if everyclass had a gun from the start that suits perfectly their play style the game would feel better, something you can upgrade along side the player

[daring hill]

I do think the game originally had a starter gun, you can see it in the very first screenshots from 2023

but I'm not 100% sure those screenshots were even real gameplay

[velvet veldt]

i remember that it was a pistol right

[daring hill]

yeah

[vital stone]

I only I could just go there and play with sticky flames

[daring hill]

yeah idk why they cut the flamethrower

[velvet veldt]

hope they can eventually readd drillers primarys

[daring hill]

I guess they wanted people to find fire damage in other ways?

[velvet veldt]

i know it was to do with upgrade issues

[olive narwhal]

Didn't they specifically say it was not currently playing nice with the upgrade system and needs work

[vital stone]

then just reword the upgrade system

omg is what so many peopel have been askinggg

[velvet veldt]

it is still in alpha, i could see flame/cryo

coming in beta eventually

[olive narwhal]

They probably maybe will show up eventually

[daring hill]

I'm pretty sure they meant it in a technical sense

[olive narwhal]

I would like unique heavy options however

[vital stone]

I just want those pest to burn to a crisp not worry about aiming

[daring hill]

if they bring back the flamethrower they need to give it scorching tide as a base level

[velvet veldt]

if i had to guess unique wewapons like that are probably harder to work with the upgrade system but ghost ship can figure it out with time i think

[daring hill]

it NEEDS a burst fire option

[vital stone]

just bring mortar rounds lol

blow them up

[daring hill]

and give the cryo ice spear or snowball

[vital stone]

is so funny how they make the core monkeys harder in the og drg cus the miners are so busted

[daring hill]

if the flamethrower/cryo don't get a burst fire ability, I fear they'll be really bad options

[olive narwhal]

Wouldn't necessarily say that if everyone's first response is hide on a zipline

[daring hill]

otherwise, why pick them over any other gun getting fire/ice upgrades

[teal lion]

well atleast in rogue core the elements dont fight each other

[velvet veldt]

i think its meant to show how strong the reclaimers are that the miners are struggling

[vital stone]

yeah I know but is lameeee lol

the miners should get some respect

they have to mine and fight at the same time

[olive narwhal]

Outside of deep rocks being the crawlers in particular not the creepers that make up rogue cores current fodder

[daring hill]

yeah, the crawlers are actually the slasher equivalent

[velvet veldt]

i dont like the zipline cheese i wish they fixed it, had a really intense fight today with corespawn on haz 5+ and our group barely managed i was like a 1 shot as soon as we broke the new corespawn modifier

[vital stone]

zipline goes brrrr

[velvet veldt]

scout is so good the grapple isnt allowed in rogue core!

[jaunty sparrow]

how big will rogue core be in file size

[vital stone]

as big as him --->

idk

[velvet veldt]

doesnt the storepage say the size

[daring hill]

it be 4.32gb right now

[boreal plume]

10 days left!!!

[teal lion]

currently it says 4.5 gigs for the playtest

[short yacht]

Rogue core tomorrow

[finite karma]

Question, how much would rogue core cost?

[short yacht]

No one knows, but probably similar to drg

[finite karma]

hope so

if it's more than 20$ i'll probably cry lol

[short yacht]

It might have a release sale tho

Or a bundle with drg

[boreal plume]

Even drg released at more than 20$ and that was 2018 if I'm not mistaken

23-30$ are the estimates

[modest condor]

DRG was supposedly $25 at EA release and then $30 for full game, right?

I'd assume the same for Rogue Core

[finite karma]

my budget is around 20$ anymore than that i'd have to pray for sales

[jaunty sparrow]

hope they do a buy one get one free /j

[teal lion]

sure its just 20 KWD

[quartz crown]

i just checked the minimum requirements to play this game...I cried

[teal lion]

it can run on a steam deck atleast

[rigid cloud]

it's harder to run than the original drg for some reason (UE5)

[inner granite]

5 in Unreal Engine 5 stands for by how much you have to divide your normal framefrate to get Unreal's framerate

[daring hill]

I feel confident that most of the performance issues are with rogue core, not UE5

It doesnt use anything notably new from UE5

Also remember that rogue core is built from DRG Season 4, though with a lot of code removed and rewritten

So it carries some of the performance issues OF DRG during season 4

Frozen enemies shattering is still an absolute FPS killer, for example

[rigid cloud]

From what I know just using ue5 is problematic it's why arc raiders had to use a stripped down custom version that completely got rid of those features regardless of the fact they weren't used in the first place

I believe it was arc raiders

[rigid cloud]

Yeah hoping for mod support like drg has the mod to fix that was awesome

[daring hill]

Mod support is going to be so sad man

Just like DRG, the mod support will be not intentionally making it impossible

If a mod cant add new upgrades or a new class, GSG won't make that possible 😔

[rigid cloud]

ah I think I get what you're saying

I only used drg mods for small things I was never interested in the larger ones so I don't really have a view on that

[daring hill]

Honestly I dont even expect them to add in-game modding like DRG

And I would not blame them, frankly

I expect itll have to be all third-party

[rigid cloud]

I hated how so many of the verified and approved mods were just cheating

like brighter objects for example and auto bhopping

or better flashlights

so I won't miss that stuff but ammo percentage and combined resources were must haves for me

and heat overlay

[lilac vector]

Heyo, I lost all my progress. Anyone know where the cheat terminal they mentioned in the Dev message feed is?

[olive narwhal]

It was removed the patch that sent out waves

[lilac vector]

Sorry I don't understand the meaning of "wave" in this context.

[olive narwhal]

Invite waves

[lilac vector]

Oh gotcha, ty for the information.

[broken flame]

I use brighter objects for practical reasons. ||Gunk seeds||

[inner granite]

i've found a gunk seed!

[summer tiger]

It's a PvE game, no one cares

[summer tiger]

It's going to be third party like Nexus Mods. I really hope that MINT will be ported to RC so we will have a more automated form of adding mods

[broken flame]

Idk, infinite ammo would be kinda lame

[inner granite]

then dont use it

you cant use approved mods in random muliplayer
who cares what someone uses in solo session

[tiny hemlock]

hope rogue core supports mods

[sand vale]

if it does hopefully the integration doesnt suck enough that people make a sidelaoder that avoids the filters so i can actually properly filter out modded lobbies

[broken flame]

I didn't care

[inner granite]

hi, i have a problem with something
here's a solution to that problem
i dont care, everyone who use mods in singleplayer are evil

[broken flame]

Never said that

[inner granite]

infinite ammo would be kinda lame

[broken flame]

It would be in a multiplayer game

[inner granite]

but you can not use inf ammo in muliplyaer

[broken flame]

Correct.

[inner granite]

unless everyone in the lobby agree

[umbral tendon]

You can and people have done in my lobbies

[broken flame]

You are correct.

[inner granite]

mint

not mod.io

thats why i hate mint, they just want to cheat

[summer tiger]

Sideloader will be one of the first things that people do. From the dev streams we know that mod integration in DRG was a pet project of one of the devs who no longer works. It took a lot of time to make it work the way it does so I don't think it's GSG priority to have it in RC during early access. They said it as much themselves. The most probable outcome will be Nexus Mods hosting a page for RC mods and few sideloaders that people will use. All of you that fear it, you have nothing to worry about. when you join in and see the lobby has mods just leave. No one forces you to play the rounds till the end. If you think that people who use mods that give you infinite ammo - power to you but you can just leave.

[summer tiger]

Or just want to circumvent the 50 mod limit that is there for no reason. The game is stable, checked it myself

[inner granite]

then dont push your cheats into random muliplayer lobbies

[broken flame]

It isn't really worth it

[inner granite]

if i wanted to play modded, i would mark for modded lobbies

[summer tiger]

I don't all mods that I use are verified, nothing that changes the gameplay.

[broken flame]

The idea is more others COULD use mods that aren't verified

[inner granite]

mint doesn't allow you to filter out lobbies with server side mods

[summer tiger]

See here's the problem- the system doesn't work. and it seems like it's not finacially feesible for the devs to fix it in any capacity.

[inner granite]

but on mod.io, with how bad it is, you can hide modded servers

and players with big mods cant join your vanilla run

-# by big mods, i mean stuffs that affect everyone's experience

[summer tiger]

So what? You don't like it just disconnect. Big problem you'll loose 2 minutes of your life. You really make it into a gigantic problem whe it's not.

[inner granite]

do you like AI being pushed into everything?

if not, just dont use it, you lose at most 2 minutes

[tropic otter]

wsg friends

[broken flame]

But that's the issue. If someone goes into someone elses lobby and uses cheats, why do I gotta leave? Why do I have to waste time leaving someone else's lobby when I just want a vanilla game?

[tropic otter]

cant wait for a open test release :>

[broken flame]

I'm all for having mods, I just appreciate when I don't have to interact with em

@tropic otter Hell yea

[summer tiger]

No I don't use AI nor buy products that have AI generated images. If I see one I just skip it.

[tropic otter]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-dance-dancing-cat-funny-cat-gremlin-gif-12942074805486926987

[rigid cloud]

why be disrespectful? we have different preferences that's okay

[tropic otter]

no perms oh well just a cat dance :>

[sand vale]

I have joined an unmarked random lobby or two with it

[rigid cloud]

That would be awesome I love MINT I used it over the in game system anyways

[inner granite]

no, you did not
unless you opted in modded lobbies, they are hidden by deafult

unless they used mint, which is whole point of the issue

mod.io filters out modded lobbies (if they use mod,io)

[umbral tendon]

I have always felt significant gameplay mods fragment the community too much

[summer tiger]

No disrespect there, never understood people being against modding PvE games to make the games they like.

[umbral tendon]

Im down with visual mods though

[rigid cloud]

I don't like that I can join people who are using mods I don't know about that allow them to cheat because we're a team and that makes the whole win for cheap for me

[tiny hemlock]

so long the gameplay mods are only confined to the host and the hoster of the server, I'm good

[tiny hemlock]

Visual mods are the good shit

I think most Visual mods are client sided

[umbral tendon]

True as long as the mod part of the game is clearly indicated for the clients joining and host has control over that

[inner granite]

can join people who are using mods
not, if they are using mod.io
only mint forces vanilla players into mods
thats why i think it is bad

modded mod.io servers are hidden by deafult

[rigid cloud]

Yeah there's the mint issue but even within mod.io there's verified mods that you can't filter out

[sand vale]

It does put the modded tag in lobby names but i think theres ways around it

[rigid cloud]

I really like the idea of the verified system I just wish they were stricter is all

[sand vale]

Yeah

[summer tiger]

Currently in DRG as of 10:31 I can at first glance count 4 modded lobbies from around 50 available. Not much of a fragmentation.

[umbral tendon]

I mean thats 8% less people in lobbies

But I mean it could be simply that the complex mods are just not that popular

[rigid cloud]

people using auto run and auto bhop for example

huige advantages

[inner granite]

autorun?

bhop i can understand

but shift to walk?

[rigid cloud]

having to start sprinting again after every attack you take and knowing the timing is a skill for sure

[carmine zenith]

people want to go fast

[umbral tendon]

But yeah I ran into quite a few people in my times in DRG that cheat Ranks, overclocks, auto aim, voice mod spamming ect.

[rigid cloud]

Yeah that's okay I just don't wanna play with them

Unless they do it naturally

[tiny hemlock]

I like mods that add custom musics

[inner granite]

but they dont even go fast
they just automated pressing shift

nothing more normal player can't do

bhops do have frame perfect input, so i can see your point

but shift to run it litterary just "hold shift for me"

[rigid cloud]

until you get hit and you have to reinitiate it

or slowed by another means

[summer tiger]

Funny because it doesn't affect you, it's client mod. Another thaing is that people request it to be a feature added to the base RC. It probably won't but people will mod it into either way.

[tiny hemlock]

I love my Greblin mission control mod

[rigid cloud]

you don't understand whatever affects one person affects the team it makes my wins feel unwarranted on all sides

if it was added to the base game that's another thing

[inner granite]

whats the problem?
human can press shift too

[rigid cloud]

Idk how to explain it wihtout showing just dw

[inner granite]

(if i remember) i can replicate shift to run 100% of the time w/o mod

[rigid cloud]

try it again

you cannot just hold shift permanantly and stay in sprint

[umbral tendon]

There is something about knowing that all the people your playing with are having the same experience as you though

[rigid cloud]

exactly

stronger sense of comradery

for me at least

[umbral tendon]

Like if we were having some epic hold the hallway moment but turns out your whole squad had enemies modded in as barrels playing spongebob sound effects

[rigid cloud]

people who think this is a point of argument are confused I think it's just my prefernce which is why I said I wanna filter out more of these mods easily

[summer tiger]

After 1000hr of pressing shift you just automate it to make experience a bit more pleasant. same with brighter objects. Was using it more a long time- decided to try 10 games wihou it. No change in effectiveness

[inner granite]

it does not affect you, why you care about barrel enemies?
you wont be even able to tell, unless they tell you

i do not like this mindset at all

[umbral tendon]

Im not here to change your mind im just here to share my perspective

[summer tiger]

If it's client side? Sure, don't care. If it's affecting all players- I just leave.

[rigid cloud]

that's a fair mindest I don't share it however

[summer tiger]

Boom prolem solved

[inner granite]

what about mods which affect your savefile?
new players wont know about saves menu

why would i get my savefile ruined beacuse someone runs "unlock everything for free" mod and by accident i joined?

[summer tiger]

Never seen one in 1800hr and they can ask how to solve it. That's what Discord, Reddit and Steam Forums are for. The tools are there you just need to make a slight effort to look it up.

[rigid cloud]

that's different cause those are sandbox mods it's chill

[carmine zenith]

We get reports of it happening pretty regularly, unfortunately.

[inner granite]

back to my "AI being pushed everywhere" analogy

if AI broke something imporant without asking, would you be okay with it?

you can waste like 2-3 minutes and fix it, but it doesnt make it any more okay

[summer tiger]

I don't use Ai for anything. And if it was introduced to a program that i like I'd replace such program with an alternative. Or ditch it whatsoever.

[inner granite]

mod.io is bad. but mint, is worse
mod.io can break only your experience
mint can break everyones exp

[inner granite]

I don't use Ai for anything
i dont use mint

why people can use mint to affect my experience?

[summer tiger]

You can just find an alternative.

[rigid cloud]

to the video game?

[summer tiger]

to the lobby

[rigid cloud]

doesn't seem possible

[inner granite]

no, i can not
i never asked to play with mint players

[summer tiger]

They never asked to play with you

[inner granite]

then why they play vanilla lobby

[rigid cloud]

I wouldn't bother I think they're just arguing for the sake of it now

[summer tiger]

if you spot them using mods just kick them

[rigid cloud]

displaying little desire to understand another's thought

[inner granite]

opps, too late! you now have int limit of every resource in the game!

[summer tiger]

No, no. You have the tools and your own rules in your lobby and you just refuse to use them.

[inner granite]

i am perfectly fine with people using game chaning mods, cheats

just dont do it on public servers marked as vanilla

[summer tiger]

Oops, just revert the save. And after 556 hr it wouldn't make any different to you.

[rigid cloud]

my point exactly you've wilfully ignored everything I've said before

[inner granite]

hi i am new player
in time since last auto backup i did a lot of progress

but now it is wasted, beause i did unspeakable
i joined a lobby

[boreal plume]

[wary tiger]

you WHAT

[gleaming musk]

10 days

Yes we all have 10 days till rogue core launches on steam

[mossy ruin]

people in the above discussion saying community side mod loaders are bad because they can be used to grief is analogous to saying scientific advancement is bad, because new technology can be used for evil

tech is never good or bad, it's about who and how uses it

[formal magnet]

I got the game running on a 7 year home server so the minimum isn't really a minimum

[formal magnet]

Auto run is QoL more than an advantage, it gives an advantage sure but I can easily just click shift and start sprinting again it just gets annoying I have to do it when every other game has auto sprint in 2026

There's a minor skill floor and ceiling when it comes to sprinting

[rigid cloud]

Yeah I wish they would add it natively

or at least make it so hold to sprint actually let's you just hold it without the game toggling off your sprint that would be great

[formal magnet]

I prefer toggle but that would also be nice

[craggy zealot]

hey silly question, is it possible to have my friend get the playtest so i can play it with him, as i have getten it but he hasent?

[formal magnet]

nah

[civic cliff]

wait 10 days and you can do this

[dusky brook]

For real, I'll take just about anything that makes me not press shift 24/7 to move normally

[formal magnet]

real

2026 and no auto sprint

[craggy zealot]

wym?

[civic cliff]

did anything change in the update today

[mossy ruin]

my little finger muscles after some 13 years of gaming:

[civic cliff]

pay money 10 days

[craggy zealot]

aaaaaah

SWEET

ok ty <3

[formal magnet]

yh a few things

[dusky brook]

You could lift a whole dwarf with that pinkie

[civic cliff]

oh shit really? :O (this is not sarcastic)

[formal magnet]

there's a full list in the alpha channel but new lighting system and some balance changes is the main one

check the Drop Pod when you load in it looks majestic

[civic cliff]

dude hype; thanks for pointing me towards the alpha channel. New Lighting sounds hype and I'm curious with the balance changes'll be

Thanks boss

[broken valve]

am I tripping or is the bulldog's reload timing changed from DRG? I keep cancelling the animation out of habit and the reload doesnt go through

[mossy ruin]

pretty much every weapon from drg was changed in some way

[broken valve]

sure, I expect changes in the stats, but the other weapons' timings regarding when the reload goes through have been pretty consistent so far

[formal magnet]

the reload time by base is 1.5 seconds rather than the 2 it is in DRG

[broken valve]

it's less about the hard timing and more about the point in the animation when it goes through

[formal magnet]

that's the DRG one with no upgrades though

[boreal plume]

Sealo stop hyping me up aaaa

[formal magnet]

10 days

space in general looks better

[boreal plume]

hell yeah

[obtuse cargo]

where do you see rogue core patches n stuff :3

[mossy ruin]

in the testing channels which you don't seem to have access to

[obtuse cargo]

fah okay

[boreal plume]

rogue core has a community server where the patch notes are posted on a public channel

[obtuse cargo]

based?!

[formal magnet]

if you're in the alpha playtest you can get a role for here otherwise yh community server

[mossy ruin]

I think you can be warned either way for doing this, but you do you

[boreal plume]

devs and mods are aware of the server so hopefully no problem in this case

[obtuse cargo]

thanks senpai

[formal magnet]

there's already fan channels in the server

this is just a rogue core one

[mossy ruin]

I'm just saying I got warned for mentioning a name of a server not included in #fan-communities

[boreal plume]

ah

yeah apparently it's against the rules, sorry

[summer tiger]

no, just wait 10 days and you can play it all you want

[obtuse cargo]

oop sorry thanks though

[summer tiger]

Animation cancelling is no longer viable strat in RC, all animations were made from ground up and the timing was changed also. Generallyy the game was made to be quicker so you don't have to do anything extra

[broken valve]

meh, just sucks you have to unlearn it/switch habits between games

[formal magnet]

you can still animation cancel some reloads, it's best use is to only shoot 1 bullet on burst fire

[olive narwhal]

Its pretty trippy not cancelling when depositing it's the only cancelling I did in DRG

[broken valve]

yeah, most cancels still work and most reloads really don't need it, the bulldog just really tripped me up

[summer tiger]

axe cancelling was also useful but grenades were made to be less spammy

[broken valve]

fortunately, it's just generally very undertuned and I'm not going to pick it again

[uncut kestrel]

can i have early access this game?

[boreal plume]

in 10 days

[tall plume]

in 10 days, you'll be able to buy it, like everyone else

[formal magnet]

soon

[inner granite]

My mom told me i am a special boy, can i have early access?

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-man-no-man-no-gif-7347715096894588969

[uncut kestrel]

:/

@tall plume rogue core is in italian?

[boreal plume]

Rogue Core is translated by the community, the Italian language is at 67% translated right now. These translations will most likely be put into the game when it launches, even if it doesn't reach 100% completion.

If it stays at 67%, then only 33% of the game will be english and the rest in Italian

[formal magnet]

🥭 67

[grizzled spire]

Chat, how much will cost Rogue Core chat?

[formal magnet]

20-30 roughly

no confirmation

[grizzled spire]

I see

Ty

[uncut kestrel]

where look this?

[lyric sapphire]

bro what are these choices im getting, either tough creepers or invisible lol

[mossy ruin]

🐍 invisible 🐍 is not so bad

last I checked, they go visible when they take damage

[lyric sapphire]

its my first time trying out the game

[tacit urchin]

What's with the snake icons

[lyric sapphire]

so thats first time im seeing these

[mossy ruin]

[formal magnet]

yep

[lyric sapphire]

Do i get progression if i abort or i need to finish?

[formal magnet]

you lose it

I think you keep any cosmetics you've collected not sure on cameras and terminals

[lyric sapphire]

wait i dont get it

theyre visible af what

[toxic wren]

god dang it im going to be away on a trip when rogue core releases

[formal magnet]

if your Effects graphic option is set to low or maybe medium they're very visible

high and ultra make them more hidden

[lyric sapphire]

ye i alwways play on low/medium

idc about graphics never ngl

[formal magnet]

fairs

I posted a comparison in one of the alpha channels

[waxen hamlet]

As long as I can tell dwarf and bug/corespawn apart then graphics are not a big thing for me either. I prefer color my self.

[lyric sapphire]

Does the depth increases like mob diversity and density or something? Havent had much trouble on depth 2 finishing the elevator with full timer and stuff ngl

[formal magnet]

Depth effects a lot of things but which enemies spawn seems to be the same

except Gatekeepers I guess they're depth dependent

[gloomy roost]

Any word on how complete the early access release is? Usually I wait until 1.0 but I need my DRG fix

[formal magnet]

it has 4 difficulty options, 3 bosses, several mission options, 5 classes and a lot of guns and upgrades

it feels better than alpha drg

a lot of content for just an alpha, more will come in EA

[mossy ruin]

I guess kinda like drg without overclocks

[tall plume]

well DRG still exists

[gloomy roost]

Very true, but what if we had MORE drg 🤔

[rigid cloud]

what do you mean by mission options?

[formal magnet]

like complexity, length, alterations

[rigid cloud]

what's alterations?

[formal magnet]

you unlock them later on but it effects the mission with a positive and negative

||like Jumble or Double HP enemies but Double Expenite||

[rigid cloud]

oh awesome I love modifiers!

[formal magnet]

they're fun

[rigid cloud]

I am in the alpha I just only started playing and need to up my clearance haha

can't wait for release so their are more au players!

[boreal plume]

It's a good thing that Invisible Walls is still working on new content then.

[shy prism]

Does Bosco or an analogue of Bosco exist in Rogue Core...

[mossy ruin]

yes

[shy prism]

yippie

[formal magnet]

||Cooper||

[shy prism]

What do I need to search

[formal magnet]

he's a lot better

[boreal plume]

you get t-800 from terminator

[formal magnet]

if only

tbf current|| Cooper|| moves like Von with the damage bug

he can do 1K per bullet when he should do like 50 at most

[shy prism]

I'm trying to decide between buying Subnautica 2 on Thursday or Rogue Core in like a week and a half.

• I never actually played the first Subnautica in survival mode.
• It looks cool.
• It's rare that I enjoy a survival game.
• I currently have a Deep Rock Galactic hyperfixation.
• Rogue Core looks fun.
• I trust GSG to make something fun more than I trust that Subnautica 2 will be optimised.

comparing Rogue Core to DRG just makes me think of the "holy sh*t two cakes" meme

[formal magnet]

xd yh

[tall plume]

It's rare that I enjoy a survival game.
then you probably shouldn't get subnautica, even more so if you haven't played the 1st one

(since they're story driven games)

[shy prism]

I did play the first one but I'm a weirdo who did it entirely in the sandbox mode where you can't die lol

[tall plume]

ah yeah, survival mode

didn't make the connection

[shy prism]

any game that has a thirst mechanic immediately scares me away

[tall plume]

well you could have gone with freeplay

can die and still need to manage health and oxygen but not hunger and thirst

[shy prism]

What happens in Rogue Core if you don't make it to the end of a stage in multiplayer?

Do you get respawned in the lift again with everyone else at the start of the next stage?

[boreal plume]

something worse happens

[shy prism]

Do you not respawn at all?

[mossy ruin]

you'll just have to see

[shy prism]

oh

does the company value each reclaimer as much as a Drilldozer?

[mossy ruin]

idk

but definitely more than a miner

[shy prism]

Enough that if one reclaimer gets stuck they just write it off?

[mossy ruin]

we never said a reclaimer gets left behind if they die before the elevator without rescue...

[formal magnet]

after like an hour you can just eat plants to give both hunder and thirst