rogue-core-chat

[warm cairn]

not RC in DRG. i dnt know how RC would work. but i am sure they will have something like that too. also drillers carve a terrain in any shape they want. you can literally drill a hole through a wall durung the intensense swarms and create a choke point.

[olive narwhal]

If RC was less linear then it is currently I could see drills being pretty valuable issue is its very linear currently

[tacit urchin]

A chokepoint will save you a few times, sure. Nothing that it can do against a boss though

[warm cairn]

i have survived numerous ways with this technique. just by simply drilling through a wall, even without a c4

[tacit urchin]

You also CAN'T make a chokepoint during the most important part of the level

Which would be elevator override to get to the next level

[warm cairn]

I use drillers every time in the industrial sabotage mission and I drill a lot of tunnels for my team to move around and to store the supply pod so that it's not out in the open which i am sure is not a smart move.

[tacit urchin]

The elevator is out in the open

And you have to stay near it

[olive narwhal]

As it is currently the most popular tools for traversal is the anti grav and ziplines drills might have some solid combat potential if you get a damage up roll

[tacit urchin]

Drills are good on slicer, that I can say

[warm cairn]

I have seen some people order a resupply right in front of the caretaker and I am wondering okay unless you are a gunner you are going to have a hard time resupplying from it if you are on high hazards. i never risk it and i will always order them behind some kind of barrier

[tacit urchin]

What's caretaker got to do with this?

[olive narwhal]

Ammo is also stationary in the level in RC you don't get to choose where it is(beyond spotters ammo crate)

[boreal plume]

You also can't call resupplies in RC because there's no nitra

but drills will probably be useful for creating cover in tough situations and reviving someone from below

it's all situational

[warm cairn]

if RC has vampire perk then you can drill through bugs quite easily. also are we forgetting how driller usually carves out the shortest path for the team to the droppod? we have lost our appreciation for driller becoz of his disturbed mental health. maybe that explains why they continuously think of Saboteuring everyone. all they need is appreciation and recognition.

[warm cairn]

ok what is expanite used for?

[olive narwhal]

For leveling up

Its the primary progression in a level

[boreal plume]

you could shorten it to exp, it's basically experience so that you can level up

[warm cairn]

looked a lot like green nitra so i thought

[inner granite]

team can level up*

[tacit urchin]

Or you and Cooper

[olive narwhal]

Its your leveling up currency for you and the squad(or cooper)

[boreal plume]

true

[inner granite]

I can't wait for mod to change all his sounds into interstellar

[olive narwhal]

Your not getting vampire out of the gate i think its in the team upgrade pool sometimes or atleast was at somepoint

[warm cairn]

honestly DRG could invest in better equipment. even the molly seems to be lacking personality. now its just a drone with a cold voice. where is the humpty dumpty walk of a molly?

[olive narwhal]

Inefficient

[warm cairn]

but thats the point. molly constantly getting in your way.

[inner granite]

All money went to facilities in the core
So they want to reclaim it even more

[zenith rock]

Is there gonna be a lobby or matchmaking system similar to tge base game?

[olive narwhal]

When your racing against the clock your gonna want a molly that zooms around fast and thus Ellis was born

[tacit urchin]

It's already in

[zenith rock]

Beer?

[inner granite]

1. There's no base game. RC is not DRG
2. There already is

[tacit urchin]

In the new alpha, yes

[olive narwhal]

Beer is present

[zenith rock]

10/10 game

[warm cairn]

i bet these reclaimers will loose a lot against our OG dwarfes. with full overclocks. and upgrades. dnt see why reclaimers are considered elite when their missions dont see to be that dangerous. DRG dwarfes have fighting experience too. have fought core spawns.

[inner granite]

Reclaimers are real army

They don't take equipment only because of grey out barrier

[tall plume]

That's because you haven't seen someone shooting for 4000 damage in one shot just yet

[inner granite]

Miners fought shit

They work in heaven compared to the core

[warm cairn]

engi - "hold my fat boy"

[inner granite]

fatboy sucks

[boreal plume]

Karl has to be doom guy level at this point

[tall plume]

it's hardly a comparison for Fat Boy and its measly 400 damage

[teal mica]

Reclaimer - "Hold my rapid fire full auto cryo grenade launcher with 8 shots in the mag."

[inner granite]

he is gonna solo the core

[warm cairn]

karl was a miner.

[gilded rock]

fatboy isn't even close to 4000 damage on a single target
even hyperprop does more damage (still not close to 4000)

[warm cairn]

Driller - "hold my ice-bug slushy"

[warm cairn]

i mean it has an AOE effect. not for single target.

nothing makes me sweat more than a mactera plague. not even regular haz 5++ with all modifiers. i still havent found a reliable way to fight them.

[zenith rock]

IM from the future and there is a secret Karl boss fight hidden in Mission Controls left eye lid

[toxic wren]

why do people have an issue with there being female dwarves?

[boreal plume]

misoginy probably

[hollow bear]

Hurt feelings

[toxic wren]

what do you mean?

[hollow bear]

They're looking for something to be upset about

[toxic wren]

oh yeah probably

[inner granite]

Karl is an anomalous spherical entity. Karl is holding a box. Karl is listening closely.

Karl is Keter. Karl is a low-quality horror or science fiction movie. Karl is expressing fear and surprise.

Karl is the Mighty Ro-Man. Karl is the Monster from the Black Lagoon. Karl is the Bride of Frankenstein. Karl is Vincent Price. Karl is Harlan Ellison.

Karl is a law of nature. Karl is afraid. Karl is already here.

Karl is.

Karl is.

Karl is.

Karl is.

[toxic wren]

FOR KARL

[summer tiger]

Being chronically online does that to certain people

[tall plume]

being chronically online has fuck-all to do with being an ass, though

[summer tiger]

It can make people absolute assholes

[tall plume]

let's not give these people an excuse

they are like this because they chose to be

[rare glacier]

a game about dwarves mining and killing space bugs and they can’t handle a girl dwarf is beyond me

insecurity is what it is

[tall plume]

the funniest part is when these people try to bring out representation, in how the game "does not represent them".

yeah bro, that's exactly what everyone that isn't a white dude has been saying for years prior. But you didn't seem to give a fuck back then ?

[tame veldt]

I can not wait for this particular "hot button" to die out, so we can all live in peace and laugh at pompous adults, like Pippi Långstrump taught us to. 👍

[tame veldt]

Should I... ||post about adding Pippi Longstocking's braids as headwear in #suggestions ? 🤔 I'd definitely wear those for the lulz and remembrance.||

[boreal plume]

maybe in rogue core suggestions, for the female dwarfs

[atomic jasper]

I hate scorchers.

[tacit urchin]

Don't we all?

[atomic jasper]

Haha, yea. Not even fucking edgestalkers have such crazy aim. I also just wish that scorchers had some sort of audio cue that was more noticeable.

[velvet veldt]

i dont see much people using the slicers shield, is it bad?

[tacit urchin]

No, it's just they either forget or don't have that many ranged enemies to fight

It has a lengthy cooldown to just pop it whenever

[atomic jasper]

Oooo, slicer has a shield?

I gotta play classes that aren’t guardian…

[summer tiger]

sidestepping does the job

their weakpoint is also a prime estate for that charger shot

[atomic jasper]

It doesn’t when there’s five of them all around me 😭

[atomic jasper]

Gotta get lucky with my guns, though.

[summer tiger]

warthog, cadna and hammercaster also do the job

[atomic jasper]

Again, I need luck.

[limpid comet]

play test tomorrow

[shut gazelle]

y'all think rogue core will have a vacuum gun?

[atomic jasper]

Why is the Rafkan boss so difficult 😭

I swear it’s tornado attack has too much range.

[rare glacier]

truth nuke

[hazy tusk]

Yeeeep

And honestly, like. It doesn't even bother me that much to only have male dwarves as an option in base DRG. I can't really make myself or a character that represents me very closely. And personally, that's not an issue for me- I just have fun designing characters with the options I do have.

But that's not the same for everyone. Some people really like to play themselves in videogames, and there's nothing wrong with that. But that means not every character will be a white male character, because not everyone playing is a white male player. And that doesn't even mean white male players aren't represented at all, because, y'know, they very, very much are.

And ultimately, if a woman can survive being represented by 0 percent of the characters in a game, men can survive "only" being represented by 60 percent of the characters. Sixty percent.

So y'know the only answer I have for people being misogynistic about Rogue Core is: Either do what I do, and treat it as an exercise in designing cool looking characters, or, in the words of Driller, "STOP WHINING!"

That being said, I am for gender being a toggle for all dwarves eventually, just because it opens up a lot of fun options for designing cool characters

[summer tiger]

You gotta keep the distance, otherwise you gonna get killed

[upper haven]

Does Cooper have a different mechanism for his missiles than his guns?

[summer tiger]

He fires them automatically, one of the options for upgrades is reducing the cooldown

[upper haven]

No I meant on his model

Like how he has actual defibrillators for reviving dwarves

Anyone have a screenshot of Cooper with his guns out?

[inner granite]

Is this a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

[upper haven]

....

[boreal plume]

I don't have a picture, nothing on the wiki as well. But there are some youtube videos out there where you can see Cooper clearly. Snowingfate has one video from 3 months ago, though I don't think Cooper ever launched a rocket in that video.

oh wait it did launch rockets at the beginning

yeah I think it doesn't have another mechanism for rockets

time stamped it where you have a frontal view of Cooper when he launches the rocket and it just spawns into existence https://youtu.be/8T-Mn-NdDvo?si=UBAELdXdIyHSqFnj&t=470

Cooper also loses it's rockets after the first stage? That might be a bug.

[tall plume]

it certainly wouldn't spoil anything

[raw pendant]

Personally I like the fact that characters are allowed distinct characterisations. Although it isn't always stated, a persons gender identity can definitely be an important aspect for a character; how has their society treated them based upon their gender, and how has that sociologically affected them as an individual?

For a game like Deep Rock or Rogue Core, it seems that we don't go that much into depth on who these people truly are. They're reclaimers and like shooting bugs, and it seems that's the core of their identities.

There's nothing wrong with having a gender toggle, but I do believe that it overall makes the characters slightly, if even just a little, more bland. (Especially because I do enjoy the fact that if I have an entire team of Reclaimers, there are guaranteed to be a female dwarf.)

[boreal plume]

Agreed

[finite laurel]

I would like a gender toggle so I could play as a female slicer tbh

[boreal plume]

racketan playing both sides

[clear bane]

They should make it where u can make any class a boy/girl tbh

[desert edge]

Is rogue core gonna be basically drg 2?

And is the gameplay gonna be similar?

[finite laurel]

It's a spinoff, not a sequel

[desert edge]

Wdym by spinoff

Isn't it made by the same ppl that own drg?

[finite laurel]

It is, but it plays differently to DRG, it's not just DRG with new stuff added, it's a roguelite experience

[desert edge]

Like deep rock galactic susurvivor but better?

And multiplayer

And first person

[mossy ruin]

no

it's way different from survivor

[desert edge]

How so

[boreal plume]

check rogue core steam page

[mossy ruin]

it's an FPS

[desert edge]

Good idea

You must be a genius

[boreal plume]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2605790/Deep_Rock_Galactic_Rogue_Core/

here you go

[desert edge]

Ohh okay so basically there's no classes

I get it now

[finite laurel]

There are classes, Reclaimers have unique abilities, they just don't have any designated weapons or tools

[tall plume]

No

[finite laurel]

TLDR: it's a roguelite, so you start each run with nothing except your class abilities and whatever stat upgrades you pick at the terminal, you and your teammates choose gear and upgrades from shared loot pools. The only actual objective is to make it from point A to point B through the linear mines on each stage and kill the boss at the end, you mine expenite and do events on the way to get upgrades.

[amber tide]

Was there any official confirmation of how RC will be monetized? Is it gonna be like DRG, with only a handful of cosmetic packs paywalled, or content DLCs, like with Survivor's new class?

[finite laurel]

All we know right now is that there's a price tag to play, like DRG

[inner granite]

Most likely similar to DRG, looking how long they kept their dlc model

[amber tide]

Yeah that sounds fine as long as no further paywalled content

[inner granite]

I don't know what agreement they had with publisher on DRG, but now that they don't have to pay anyone else but them, maybe even less paid stuffs

Keep in mind, both are only guesses with not much to support them, take with whole sea of salt in the eye

[amber tide]

Oh wait, is RC self-published?

[modest condor]

paywalled content sounds weird for a game like this anyway with free matchmaking and stuff
I feel like major updates may come with new cosmetic DLCs just like DRG, that's my hunch

[inner granite]

GSG opened its own publishing branch, Ghost Ship Publishing yes

[finite laurel]

Wasn't GSG bought by a different company? am I misremembering something?

[amber tide]

Tbf not like Coffee Stain was too harsh with monetization on DRG, lol

[inner granite]

They already published for few other devs

[inner granite]

Not that I heard of, no

[tall plume]

yeah

[inner granite]

They are all by their own

[olive narwhal]

Coffeestain is still listed on the steam page alongside gsg publishing

[tall plume]

GSG was owned by Embracer - which no longer exists. It splited in 3 branches, one of them being lead by Coffee Stain Publishing and still owning DRG. That branch has since then bought its independance and is entirely on its own - and still owns GSG.

But GSG is now self-publishing games, there is not always a direct correlation between game publishing and owning the company.

[tall plume]

most likely due to licensing reasons, I'd imagine

[finite laurel]

Gotcha

[inner granite]

I ask for explanation
Who's the branch that coffee owned, who's GSG and who's that third?

[finite laurel]

Yeah I hope paid expansions never come to RC, but from everything I've heard on streams and such over the years it seems like the kind of thing not even GSG knows at the moment

[inner granite]

I got bit confused from your message

[boreal plume]

Gsg is ghost ship games, the developer of DRG

[inner granite]

I mean
Yeah, ik

[boreal plume]

You did ask whos GSG lol

[inner granite]

I ment who's GSG in that story

Beacuse they are split in 3, then they buy themselves back?

"and still owns GSG" who owns GSG?

[tall plume]

Coffee Stain Publishing

[boreal plume]

Tbh I would be surprised if they locked content behind DLCs, they are one of the most consumer friendly developers out there

With the free performance pass and whatnot

[modest condor]

That'S what I mean
they#Ll probably just do cosmetics again

[inner granite]

-# Valve 2

[modest condor]

The most i could see would be locking classes behind DLC? which wouldn't be the worst but i doubt it anyway tbh

[tall plume]

Embracer buys Ghost Ship Games => Embracer splits in 3 branches, one of them being directed by Coffee Stain Publishing (and in which there is DRG) => Coffee Stain Publishing makes a deal to become its own master and leave with everything in their branch

[boreal plume]

Maybe like vermintide does it's classes, but it's still not very likely

[inner granite]

If those classes would be unique enough while not super turbo OP i would be personally fine with that

If they also throw something else in the pack

[finite laurel]

Guess time will tell. I'm not gonna worry over nothing

Speaking of monetization though, knowing the exact price for Rogue Core early access would be nice

[inner granite]

I heard similar as DRG in ea

Generally, similar price as DRG

[signal token]

I still fear GS will abandon/neglect DRG in favor of RC....

[tall plume]

pinned messages

[inner granite]

Even if, IW will probably get it

That would be one hell of Christmas gift

[finite laurel]

I know, I know. I'm saying it would be nice to know, so I'd know exactly how much money to set aside

[finite laurel]

TBF the game's had 8+ years of basically constant development, not a lot of games can say that.

[boreal plume]

Outsourcing game development is apparently very common in the game development industry, it wouldn't surprise me if IW is still working on DRG as we speak

[tall plume]

I personally have no issues with this, there was never any statement that the game would kept being updated ad vitam aeternam - which is something people have come to expect from every game these days, for some goddamn reason

[boreal plume]

I don't think they would let DRG die with a DRG spinoff on the way

[inner granite]

May i offer you "life service online multiplayer, acc required, half a dozen DLC" #2917817282?

[boreal plume]

But Ser Pounce is right

Many people are taking these updates for granted

[tall plume]

they've only said they would keep doing so for as long as it's feasible for them - could be money, could be a technical limitation, could be a lack of time.

They clearly still love DRG though, so I don't expect them to drop the game entirely anytime soon. At worse, I can see it being outsourced to Invisible Walls completely.

[inner granite]

Even if S6 was last update, game is still fun to play as is

[boreal plume]

I think I played another 150 hours around the release of season 6

I'm constantly getting my moneys worth out of free updates

[inner granite]

I sonehow am already on last page of season pass and still don't know where all that time went

It is just fun

[finite laurel]

DRG is a pretty incredible deal even at full price as-is

[boreal plume]

I completed it today

most of those hours I mentioned were before season 6 released though

[viral moon]

Hey folks. Haven’t been keeping up with the news lately but just noticed the latest pin in this channel.

No guarantee for console release? That’s kinda shocking…

[boreal plume]

Found a 7 month old comment from Jacob on the topic of console release https://old.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/1mm52f9/will_rogue_core_ever_come_to_consoles/n82yf3y/?context=3

So yeah, console release isn't guaranteed yet

[viral moon]

Surprising considering I would assume a decent percentage of DRG’s player base was console players. Definitely not the majority but feels weird not to be pushing for them to be included in RC.

Clearly I’m uneducated in this area lol

[old swift]

i think console is all but guaranteed in writing, no reason rogue core shouldn't come to consoles

but that's also not gonna happen until the end of early access

[finite laurel]

Console has always played second fiddle for DRG, I think GSG just doesn’t want to put too many promises up front when they’re trying to get a game out the door

[boreal plume]

yeah not giving any promises is probably the reason

since the game is basically running on a different engine now, they probably want to test how it runs first

dunno how different UE 4 and UE 5 are on a technical level but still

[finite laurel]

(They also haven’t fully figured out controller inputs yet)

[uncut folio]

Agreed

Genuinely if you need constant updates to enjoy a game maybe you’re just chasing the high of “new thing”

And once the high of “new thing” wears out you need another “new thing”, with not much thought as to wether the “new thing” is meaningful in the long term

Quantity over quality

[magic hemlock]

Another thing that stands out with DRG itself is all the content is actually still present and playable. The "new thing" doesn't purge the old stuff

[desert edge]

Hpw much will rogue core be?

[tall plume]

pinned messages

[golden rivet]

W

[hazy tusk]

Honestly, as someone with several other hobbies and several other regular games: if DRG doesn't get new content often, I'm a-ok with it, because I will probably never keep up otherwise, lmao. It's gonna take me ages to finish the s6 pass but damn it, I'm going to do it, because Diesel Driven is just too good

If you actually run out of content to enjoy that fast, it might just be time to diversify a lil. Give drg a break even if you still want to play it, so you don't burn out too fast

I get maybe a couple missions a week outside of academic breaks and that's plenty for me

[earnest lance]

does rouge core have a release date or even a new playtest date?

[atomic jasper]

I am absolutely in love with the MM-4 Charger

[atomic jasper]

Check pins

[upper haven]

May (not march) 20

[fossil crag]

Do we know when alpha test 6 is

[rare glacier]

fr

[uncut folio]

Soon™

[tall plume]

no

[boreal plume]

Oh yeah forgot about that, with the amount of inputs the abilites need

[boreal plume]

Just a heads up but you can request access to playtester rogue core channels through in game

Discord channels

[short yacht]

Rogue core tomorrow

[pallid stream]

I know I can trust someone who plays tf2 when talking about his topic

[uncut folio]

true

[pallid stream]

Can one of the playtesters verify if there’s a melee upgrade that rewards kills in quick* succession?

And I mean kills with the melee

[daring hill]

nothing inherently for melee kills, but there are many upgrades that do things on kill

and you are rewarded for doing them in quick succession

by the thing happening a lot

[pallid stream]

Like a speedboost? I‘m just really looking forward to building a snowball loadout

and melee kills in drg just make* me feel incredibly strong

[tacit urchin]

There's an Artifact that gives you damage and lowers your damage resistance for each kill

Not melee kills specifically

[pallid stream]

nice. Sounds* perfect for me, I love glass canons

[boreal plume]

wasn't there one that lowered your HP too?

I don't remember the upside though

[boreal plume]

yeah and it's literally named Glass Cannon lol

[boreal plume]

Check "Artifacts" https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Rogue_Core:Upgrades

these are obviously subject to change

[weak tangle]

Do weapons in RC sometimes have OCs attached to them?

[tacit urchin]

Yeah

There aren't a lot of OCs though

[weak tangle]

Kinda figured that, some OCs from DRG are just stats changes. Tho I still want to see some good OCs like Hurrican cluster, Neurotoxin...

[summer tiger]

You eventually can get on some of the weapons like Embedded Detonators on Zhukovs, Unlimited Power Rod(?) on Devastator - no reloading OC. Those are the first that come to my mind

[tacit urchin]

Return to sender

And salvo charge, I think?

[weak tangle]

Okay that's good to know. What makes the game really interesting for me is the weapon customization

[boreal plume]

I saw a Drak with homing projectiles once and it was crazy

[summer tiger]

One would say that "Rapid fire and Full Auto" is also an overclock

[tacit urchin]

Full auto

Fuller auto

You can stack them, y'know

[summer tiger]

It might be but shows up too often during initial weapon picking for me to consider it an OC

[weak tangle]

Are you sure that someone wasn't hacking because that sounds busted

[summer tiger]

Upgrading guns works differently than in DRG, there is a list of upgrades that you can get from work benches during the run: +20% damage, +40% Weakpoint damage, +200 armourbreaking, - 55% spread, double magazine etc.

[summer tiger]

It's an alright upgrade, nothing super op. Drak doesn't deal a lot of damage, 10 per projectile IIRC, and sometimes it can be a bit detrimental because the shots are not hitting the correct enemy

[boreal plume]

Yeah it was on a content creators video, dont remember which one. The projectiles would basically home in on the center of the closest enemy. Think like Lok-1 but full auto lol. They would constantly get headshots with little aim adjustments, and they had an upgrade that was like "for every 5 headshots, x amount of red sugar drops". Getting headshots on the boss was problematic though because the boss was too tall.

[weak tangle]

Fair enough, still find it interesting than the lok1

[boreal plume]

I like that there're upgrades that change the weapon playstyle

[weak tangle]

Yea that's what I'm looking for

Is it an upgrade that works on every weapon or just the Drak upgrade?

[summer tiger]

Homing projectiles are exclusive to Drak only

[boreal plume]

Yeah drak exclusive

There's a chance you see this variant during weapon selection

[hollow bear]

The homing should be toned down a bit

Kinda crazy to be able to shoot bugs directly behind you

[polar vessel]

Is this game going tame or bonkers with how powerful you can get

[finite laurel]

You can do a lot more than you can in DRG if you get the right combination of upgrades

But you're ultimately still a dwarf, just with very high stats, the most transformative upgrade I can think of is the double jump

[tacit urchin]

Glass cannon

Frenzy can get ridiculously powerful

Not during the boss battles though, sadly :(

[short yacht]

Is rogue core ost made by the same person that made DRG ost?

[tall plume]

yes

[pallid stream]

Will rc EA have a tutorial?

[tall plume]

yes

[tacit urchin]

Yeah, Aaron just told us

[pallid stream]

that’s great to hear

[tacit urchin]

And, no. That's not a joke

[pallid stream]

I don’t keep up with the vids and lives

this chanel is my only source of info

[clear bane]

Any word if they would make legendary upgrades more common on higher difficulties?

[median sleet]

Why would they do that?

[clear bane]

Cause it’s harder? It’d make it more worth the while to play higher difficulties, and better variety since they are rare af

[tall plume]

if you make them more common, it'(s not gonna be harder

because you give more power to the players, therefore reducing the difficulty

that defeats the whole point of having a harder difficulty

[clear bane]

But the higher difficulty is harder and you have more stages so it’s easier to lose? I’m not saying make it 50% but maybe like a 1-2% higher chance

[tall plume]

yes, higher difficulties are indeed harder, that's kind of the point

[north galleon]

This game looks as amazing as Galactic.

I don't even know if I'll be alive in 2 months lmao

[summer tiger]

The builds can get really strong

[summer tiger]

You can easily clear Depth 4 without seeing a single legendary upgrade

[quick harness]

So are all playtests done or is there going to be one last chance to get in a playtest before release?

[tacit urchin]

1 more for sure

after that idk

[tall plume]

1 more, which will likely be the last

[quick harness]

Sweet. Crossing my fingers I get into the last one, I’ve been avoiding every video, post and any other information for it to surprise myself.

[snow mesa]

How much will the game cost?

[median sleet]

check pins

[warm cairn]

You know when I saw DRogue Core One thing I was worried about was that I won't be able to enjoy DRG
much long because Ghost Ship games will probably move to Rogue Core after releasing Relics of hoxxes
season six and it's probably going to be a last season and I thought Rogue Core is going to be a sequel to DRG But I was wrong.

and it made sense if it was a sequel.

both are meant to be different games and probably for different audiences as well.

coz i only started playing in mid of dec as i wanted to try the first game on linux cachy os and so i went with DRG.

actually discovered it through desktop wallpapers and brolls of a random linux video lol.

he didnt even mention the name of the game, just that his 7 yr old minor was hooked into mining.

[finite laurel]

Can’t expect a company to work on one game forever, DRG has had 8 years of development now it’s not exactly hurting for new content

And given that we just got a season made by a different studio I don’t think there’s reason right now to worry that DRG will be totally abandoned

[tall plume]

more like 10, because development started in 2016

[cobalt ridge]

We need to threaten coerce gsg into releasing project dwarka

[finite laurel]

They release Dwarka and it’s just DRG but reskinned with crude medieval fantasy models slapped on the current ones

[warm cairn]

yes, he is the youngest minor in the minerverse and youngest underpaid DRG intern

[summer tiger]

few hundreds of players are also in the queue, chances are pretty slim but never zero

[summer tiger]

Oh don't you worry, all 6 seasons of content are like 500h of gameplay easily. Not to mention getting all the OCs. You will get your money worth of DRG if you try to get everything.

as all kids do

[raw pendant]

If the minecraft movie taught us anything

[warm cairn]

the only thing i like about DRG is what minecraft failed to give me.

sandbox, guns and true coop-eration.

i remember when i was a new driller and joined a refining mission and on of the wells spawned right on top of rig.

kinda started sweating wondering how on earth as a driller will i execute my piping responsibilities.

then a greybeard asked me if i can do it. i hesitatingly replied yes on high hazard.

but the moment he replied by saying "the world is your sandbox" i immediately clocked in and drilled a screw shaped path to the well.

connected the pipelines and it was done.

as for cooperation, i see many edgelords dying alone in a cave becoz they dnt stick together. and no they are not necessarily scout.

some of them are drillers and gunners and some of them are extremely high tier promoted dwarfs.

i dnt know what tier it is coz i am still in gold tier. it has a numbers on it. and they die sometimes

[boreal plume]

Hope you will be there to rock and stone

[warm cairn]

sometimes they dont even rock n stone. but as a good subordinate i only keep them on feet as they can be important assets in tough situations

[warm cairn]

terminal illness?

[clear spire]

It's technically a sequel, depending on which season you play

[warm cairn]

i have only played two seasons at this point. i began with season 5 on dec 15 which was set to default. then season 6, currently completing season 1 and have 430hr already

season 5 was the longest and season 6 being the shortest. or maybe becoz since i was starting out i had so many assignments. now the only assignments i get is to promote dwarfes. do deep dives, play double xp missions and then experiement with oc on all classes.

[vestal patio]

rogue core playtest tomorrow

[summer tiger]

Preach, preach the word of tomorrow

[warm cairn]

i think credit goes to MC for making me like games like DRG. before MC i probably would have shrugged off a game like DRG without even seeing what its about given i was a prick who only played AAA like RDR2 and GRAAFIXXXX aahhh taste.

MC taught me that you can have fun without Photorealism. MC and DRG taught me the diff between artstyle and photoreal graphics (even thought its kinda of an artsyle but i hope you get my point)

[north galleon]

No, anything can happen in two months, you know?

[north galleon]

I'm also hoping you have an estimate of the game's price.

[tacit urchin]

Pinned messages

[north galleon]

Nice, that was the price I was expecting.

[warm cairn]

yeah i understand. may God preserve you . ROCK AND STONE!!!

[north galleon]

Rock and stone my brother!!

[warm cairn]

i think the funniest voice lines that i ever heard in DRG is one of the friendly fire ones "Remind me not to turn my back on you again" the delivery is so serious and knowing that these are just silly funny dwarfes it makes it even more funny

[north galleon]

true

[warm cairn]

lol ghost ship games is arelady trolling nvidia on dlss 5.0

[boreal plume]

that tweet was so good

they simultaneously shat on DLSS and advertised merch

tbh the social media team is putting some good content out there

the DRG YT shorts are very good

[finite laurel]

I’m hoping the Skyrim skeleton shield bash animation from one of the shorts becomes an actual victory animation, so good

[boreal plume]

LOL I wish for that too

[next crater]

A small correction to this: Embracer still exists, but as a holding company that owns the three new companies - Asmodee, Coffee Stain Group, and Fellowship Entertainment. None of them has bought indepedence, so not much has changed ownership wise, though Coffee Stain Group existing allows for more focus on games.

[tall plume]

so what did they mean by "spin off Coffee Stain Group" ? 👀

[next crater]

Depends on who said that and when. 😅

[tall plume]

https://embracer.com/releases/embracer-to-spin-off-coffee-stain-group-remaining-business-to-be-renamed-fellowship-entertainment/

Embracer

been a while since I've read it

don't remember everything that's in there

[swift pine]

Hello, chat. Has anyone played the game that could tell me if it'll be a good game, when I saw the trailer I really was interested, but I want an opinion from someone who has already played on Beta

[next crater]

Well, it technically means that it was it's own separate company with it's own CEO, and that it will work independent under that CEO (that CEO has a responsibility in regards to the owners, which is still Embracer, in a sense). Guess it counts as removing some of the top level management, and instead moving the management to be video game focused.

[next crater]

I like it, but I am kinda biased.

[median sleet]

I find it to be very fun, once it gets some more content with alpha 6 and after early access it'll probably be an amazing game

[inner granite]

I swear i remember just GSP being there

[tall plume]

same

[finite laurel]

It's fun, has a familiar DRG feel but is very different in practice. Fast paced and very challenging

[dapper crescent]

it depends what you want out of a game. it's a roguelike, so you go in with 0 gear, and you work your loadout as you go deeper and get upgrades in the mission itself. for some people, that's awesome. for others, the lack of pre-loadout is going to be a challenge. it's not a significantly different game from DRG though. It's just DRG with Roguelike elements.

I like to compare it to something like Pepsi and Mt Dew... both are sodas, have different flavors, but it's more down to preference and taste.

[finite laurel]

Shouldn't be understated how much is different. Classes don't have designated weapons and gear that you upgrade between missions, there aren't mission types, rather facility lengths, each run is longer than a DRG mission, the enemy roster is completely new with only one returning enemy

[summer tiger]

Game is good, has the same feeling of gameplay as DRG but is not DRG and should not be treated as DRG 2: Electric Boogaloo. The focus of this game is on being efficient and fast. If you lag behind you gonna get swarmed and quickly dealt with by the masses of corespawns and tentacles. Game has a lot of potential and more ways for devs to experiment without the constrains of the strict class system.

[summer tiger]

Two returning enemies

Crawlers and leeches

[finite laurel]

Eh, it's more like crawlers are Rogue Core enemies they put in DRG, but fair enough

[uncut folio]

Yeah in my mind I don't count Crawlers are returning enemies

[swift pine]

Alr alr, thank you so much for your feedback, guys. It's s really helpful.

[topaz willow]

bugs

[boreal plume]

there are no bugs in RC (no pun intended)

[uncut folio]

there are lootbugs and mutant bulk detonators

[topaz willow]

there are bugs

[finite laurel]

There are no bugs in ba sing se

[boreal plume]

forgot about those

tbh they look out of place in RC for me lol

[finite laurel]

Lootbugs maybe, there's a good contextual reason for the bulk

[sudden sable]

is it just me or does spotters radar seem kind of useless, im watching 4 month old gameplay and i dont think it would ever be that useful to look at the bottom of your screen for the radar when you can just look at the game. have they changed this?
i feel like an easy change would be for it to periodicially highlight enemies for yourself and teammates

[acoustic scaffold]

any idea how much will the game cost?

[inner granite]

Piiiiiiiins

[acoustic scaffold]

thaaaaanks

[topaz willow]

i can't pay in pins I don't collect pins

[vestal patio]

Why did they red wash the corespawn clammerheads

[inner granite]

We also accept payment in souls

[topaz willow]

[inner granite]

Doesn't have to be yours

Can be your friends'

[topaz willow]

[willow canopy]

would strangers suffice

[summer tiger]

If you were watch the newest gameplay you would know that they have reworked it. When you use the active ability it marks all enemies within certain radius for your team.

[sudden moss]

Hello!
I'm new here, and new to Deep Rock Galactic world, but I'm quite interested in the new Rogue Core game, so I wanted to ask if anybody knows if there will be any option to make shorter runs in the future. As far as I know, a standard run could take around 40min and you will able to make it longer with more levels, but from my point of view I would like to have an option to make it shorter like 20min.

[tall plume]

that's unlikely

[tacit urchin]

Probably not

The min the game does is 4 levels

[tall plume]

but getting good at the game will have the effect of making them shorter

just getting experienced on its inner working will make you play more efficiently

[sudden moss]

It makes sense

[tall plume]

and thus faster

especially since it's a game that rewards going fast

[sudden moss]

Good to know, thank you for the answer!

[uncut folio]

Also higher difficulty runs tend to be shorter because of the shorter threat timer

But yeah generally they always take at least 40 minutes

[bronze pendant]

Whats y'all opinions on how the dwarfs in rouge core have different face models than the one in deep rock galactic?

[tacit urchin]

Fine? Cool even

[vestal patio]

They are alright

[bronze pendant]

I have just now learned that 2 of the dwarves in rouge core are females

I knew something was off lol

[teal mica]

Off?

[uncut folio]

humans are good at noticing when faces look weird

or simply not what theyre used to them looking like

[bronze pendant]

Yeah when I saw the trailer for rouge core I saw the models for the dwarfs and I was confused, I was like these aren't the classic wrinkly old man looking dwarfs we have in normal drg so I was just wondering and I watched a video about I and realized they were females so yeah I think it's really cool we get to see what female dwarfs look like in the deep rock universe

[boreal plume]

I think they lost their double chins because the reclaimers are more soldiers than miners

there's also a mini gym in the ramrod for working out

the devs also gave them facial animations now, so that's cool

It's rogue core btw not rouge

[carmine zenith]

[boreal plume]

LOL

[rare jewel]

god I wish I could hear some more clean bits of music from this because what I've heard sounds fantastic

[tawny dock]

dammit somehow i misread and thought it was releasing march 20th

tomorrow

cry

[prisma delta]

nah its raoeguaga core. i dont wanna belive it is called rogue core.

[finite laurel]

Ragout Core

[bronze pendant]

I heard you can see the drg space rig from the windows of ramrod, I can't wait to see it myself that's gonna be cool

[boreal plume]

yeah just like how you can see the Ramrod from the space rig :)

you can even see their drop pod come and go

don't know if you can see the space rig drop pod too

[pine skiff]

Tater cooking up the best emoji since uhhhh

Unless and friends were first idk

[ruby crescent]

Did anyone else get confused initially at the Rogue Core "release date" thinking they were actually releasing the full game at that time and not early access? 😛

[polar vessel]

Did they use dd/mm or mm/dd

I always assume dd/mm unless its us ca or jp

[cobalt ridge]

Theyre european so day/month

[polar vessel]

I misread the message anyway I thought maybe the ea was 5/3 or something

[finite laurel]

It was mm/dd the game is coming out on the 5th day of the 20th month of the year

[dusky brook]

We'd have to wait 17 more months

[amber tide]

Any info on Rogue Core being shown on this Triple-I, or would that be too much?

[boreal plume]

what is triple-I ?

Triple-i Initiative I guess

[finite laurel]

Considering how much fanfare they gave to the release date trailer last week, I doubt it

[chrome basin]

One bubblegum bar and an open soda can to the hero that adds the payday music mod to rogue core

[median yoke]

am I too niche for liking the soundtrack that plays in the loading screen

[boreal plume]

Someone asked if Retcons ability would revive you if you went down during it, it's been confirmed that you stay down now

[south stump]

they said that the next invitation wave will probably be on the next week

[boreal plume]

You get 2 resupply charges now when solo

[vestal patio]

rogue core next week

[weak tangle]

Is Rivals still a thing in Rogue core? Omega looks like the Rivals imo

[tall plume]

nope

there is definitely a rival tone in OMEGA but that's the only asset that does in the game

it's not impossible DRG harnessed rival tech to make OMEGA

[weak tangle]

Yea probably. That sounds interesting

What about weapon frameworks? We get random weapons during the run, so is there a way to change it or will there be no weapon framework?

[tacit urchin]

I hope there won't be

[weak tangle]

No weapon framework? Why not?

[tall plume]

I vaguely recall the devs saying they're not interested in doing weapon framework in RC - at least for the moment

since you get random weapons and can change them around all the times, it's not a big deal to not have any

[tacit urchin]

Will make the devs run into the same issue as with DRG where to add 1 gun you need to implement every framework for it

[tall plume]

also it makes it easier for them to add new weapons if they don't have to add new frameworks for them every time

[tacit urchin]

Also, they're random you aren't guaranteed to get the one

[teal mica]

Better to just keep adding guns.

[weak tangle]

Yea good points.

[rare quarry]

I think that we have learned from our mistakes 😄

[zealous coral]

ability cool down enhancements gone and retcon are now nerfed a lot because of it

[inner granite]

but will we get at least skins?

[finite laurel]

Might not be that big of a concern, but I wonder if weapon frameworks could cause problems where some people get way too attached to a specific weapon to the point of getting kinda hostile over it

Like if you really love your charger pistol but someone else picks it in the starter crate

[vestal patio]

there is no tooth fairy there is no easter bunny and there is no weapon frameworks

[finite laurel]

Default guns look cool as it is

[carmine pier]

Can't help but notice my friend has been reset to level 1 and the welcome video played when he started the game.
So I take it a playtest is soon

[tall plume]

the reset happens with every new playtest

no new invites yet

[carmine pier]

Yeah that's why I figured a new playtest was around the corner

[idle tangle]

Still no news on if we'll be getting another update to the playtest?

[finite tundra]

did we get the new activities on the ramrod yet?

or is that something that will probably end up in mid to late EA

[idle tangle]

Unless we've had an update in the past week that I don't know about, no

[finite tundra]

there was one 5 hours ago

[idle tangle]

Wait wait wait wait

Bullshit

[finite tundra]

didn't mention anything about the ramrod tho

[idle tangle]

Ok two different answers here

Holy hell

How did I miss this

[finite tundra]

idk it was a ping

oh u don't have rcat role

[teal lion]

Was gonna say dont know what were allowed to say or not, but alpha 6 started with soem changes to how this alpha test will be handled

[idle tangle]

Yeah I haven't been bothered to get it yet

[idle tangle]

Oh?

[south stump]

im praying to get a key

i wanna play this game so badly

[finite tundra]

damn tutorials sick

[idle tangle]

Ok seems like a pretty whatever update. Promos nice, Bio Booster stuff looks interesting, Ops Terminal swag, tutorial Idc.

It's largely stuff that needed to happen, but most of it isn't that major for me

[teal lion]

Its the spit and polish test before ea, so lots of small patches, later key give out due to wanting vets to beable to unbreak the alpha first, cant load old saves but theres a cheat console (only active till new invites)

[finite tundra]

the tutorial is a vr experience with a cool 3d tris filter

[bronze pendant]

Where

[median sleet]

that's not all though

second part

[tall plume]

that's enough

[idle tangle]

Yeah definitely seems that way from the content we got. Was hoping for some more, oh, looks like more content actually?

[tall plume]

there's a reason we have alpha channels.

[idle tangle]

Wait my patch notes, where did they go

[median sleet]

Yeah, get the role for the full list

[idle tangle]

Pounce, can you just like give me the role pretty please

I don't want to open the game

[tall plume]

do you have access to the alpha ?

[idle tangle]

Yeah

I have since Playtest 3 iirc

[finite tundra]

I just realised this isn't the channel

[tall plume]

I'm gonna need more proof than just your word

[idle tangle]

Hold on

[teal lion]

Yeah wheres the sacrifice

[idle tangle]

Any issues if I DM you a pic?

[finite tundra]

ah I see rogue core chat is public but rcca has discussion

[tall plume]

no

do it

[boreal plume]

go to the window behind the deep dive terminal and look to the left, the ramrod is around there shooting it's drop pod

[sudden sable]

for anyone thats been playing rogue core, does it run worse than drg bc of UE5?

or is performance the same/slightly different

[tall plume]

more performance hungry compared to DRG but not sure it's due to UE5 at all, the game is just much nicer and have more going on graphic wise

but no fucking lumen or any of these FPS destroying stuff

[sudden sable]

does it still look decent on low graphics settings

drg does and i love it for that

sorry i have a potato

[olive narwhal]

Actually does rogue core also have a higher enemy cap?

[tall plume]

yeah

wait

you mean compared to DRG ?

[olive narwhal]

I believe some people have been playing on steam decks if thats a good reference for your hardware

[tall plume]

I don't know how it compares, I just know it has a limit

[olive narwhal]

Yes

[tall plume]

no idea then

[tall plume]

no idea, haven't tried

I run it on medium

[olive narwhal]

Its likely still got room for further optimisation its is an alpha after all

[tall plume]

definitely

[olive narwhal]

Sure hope all that work on the particles system is paying off

[peak sorrel]

62 days till peak

[jaunty sparrow]

rogue core tomorrow

will it have season passes

[tacit urchin]

I think devs said before that doing seasons wasn't a good idea for DRG, so I doubt it

[thin siren]

Were there new invites for the playtest? There are more people there.

[eager ermine]

This wait is so painful

[median sleet]

not yet

[thin siren]

https://steamdb.info/app/2860770/charts/

[median sleet]

it's up because people that are already in the playtest are playing again

[daring hill]

They want to clean things up a bit before they do invites

[thin siren]

Ha okok

[green mango]

Hey guys, could someone explain is rogue core the same as drg? Cause from the trailer I didn't get what's the difference: 4 dwarf team underground doing mission while attacked by mobs

[jaunty sparrow]

season 1 they gona add rockpox again

[tacit urchin]

Steampage has most of the explanation on the big differences

Main one is it's a roguelite

[tacit urchin]

Don't jinx it

[inland knoll]

What time is it gonna be dropping?

[tall plume]

unknown

[winter marsh]

Is the account linking for the Playtest Channel up? Throwing a 401 error whenever I try from the in-game menu

[fossil crag]

Rogue core has an update is it the new playtest

[upper haven]

Question, anyone willing to record the weapon and equipment blurbs for the wiki?

[tacit urchin]

Blurbs?

Oh, flavor text

[upper haven]

Yeah when you are choosing which one to get
Also are they recorded in the Reclaimer's handbook?

[tacit urchin]

They are

[fossil crag]

You know what would be cool it wouldnt happen but if everyone in the test got early access for free

[hazy tusk]

Yeah no

That would kinda suck

Because then it's just like. You got to play early AND the entire game for free, just out of pure luck

There's tons of people who signed up and never got in

[fossil crag]

Ya i didnt thingk about that

[teal mica]

That is a great way to make the fanbase dislike GSG.

[fossil crag]

Sometimes i dont thingk when i say things just say it

[hazy tusk]

Y'know what real

[rare jewel]

do we know if progress from the playtest will carry over to early access? I don't have access but that just crossed my mind and I was curious

[granite mist]

Pretty sure it won't

[tall plume]

it won't

[rare jewel]

good to know

I imagined that would be the answer because keeping the progress could whack off balance a bit but wanted to check

[tall plume]

it's not really even possible

because the playtest is listed as a different product on steam

[harsh hedge]

we know what time RC will launch?

[old swift]

it isn't releasing today

but we also don't know

[rare glacier]

when karl commands it

[limpid comet]

play test soon™

[true fog]

does anyone know how to get the currency to unlock perk slots in the current playtest? i can't figure it out for the life of me

[eager ermine]

Hey you guys and gals think there will be the beast tamer perk?

In rogue core

[boreal plume]

nope

[eager ermine]

Something tells me you have prior knowledge

[boreal plume]

Now that I think about it, a class with a pet could be cool. Like a big dog or wolf or something

[boreal plume]

Well for one thing, the perk system is very different from DRGs

I dont think you can equip active perks, and taming a core spawn would seem out of place since they are more monsters than beast IMO

[eager ermine]

Will we still have iron will I wonder

[daring hill]

when yall get access, I better see yall keep playing the game

I don't want the playerbase of the closed alpha to stop playing a week in this time ):<

[boreal plume]

I would go crazy

I'm already going around social media looking for rogue core posts and replying to people who have questions

[faint fossil]

How do I get into the rogue core play test?

[boreal plume]

you request access on the Rogue Core steam page, the rest is completely luck based

[faint fossil]

Thanks

[boreal plume]

If everything goes alright, there will be a new invite wave next week

[faint fossil]

Woo hoo

[paper schooner]

Yes that's the idea and it's not looking too bad at the moment (in terms of crashes) though there are plenty of gameplay shenanigans I want to address before letting more people in.

[short yacht]

Rogue core tomorrow

[olive narwhal]

If you keep at it one day you might be right

[summer tiger]

I can give a better one, there is a class with a bird. Falconeer they call her.

[boreal plume]

That's great to hear!

[limpid comet]

Rogue core tomorrow™

[boreal plume]

Yeah I kinda forgot about her lol

[short yacht]

Rogue core tomorrow deniers can win everyday, but I need to win only once to prove them wrong

[rare jewel]

Ngl, I'm glad bulks return in at least SOME form in rogue core even if it's just an expinite event. It would have felt weird without em

[pallid stream]

yh a game in the drg universe would be weird without a big and bulky enemy

[rare jewel]

It's not drg without a big lad who goes kaboom

[pallid stream]

exactly

yes rogue core is a completely different game that won’t replace drg

and drg will still get content updates

yh that’s awsome

[boreal plume]

It seems like they are going in that direction, where DRG keeps getting content updates from Invisible Walls, the studio which developed Season 6. Mike, the lead game designer, mentioned during yesterdays RC stream that him and Mikkel, the game director, are having weekly meetings with IW on what content to bring to DRG, but nothing is locked in yet.

[rare jewel]

Yup, you basically just get two cakes!

[inner granite]

<@&296918282403840000>

[deep agate]

ty rat

[inner granite]

remove one atom from each cell in his body

[deep agate]

oh your pfp is an elf not a rat wow

the betreyal

[inner granite]

for my defense
frieren is great show

[deep agate]

it looked like a long snout at first

[amber tide]

Might be a stupid question, but is the game roguelike or roguelite?

[inner granite]

lite
there's metaprogression

[summer tiger]

Roguelite

[teal mica]

Roguelite.

It is quite rare to find an actual roguelike game these days.

[dapper sun]

Did they release a new version to play testers as mentioned in the stream?

[boreal plume]

yes

[dapper sun]

cool sounds like they’ll do one more play test before early access

[boreal plume]

this is the last one

[dapper sun]

Almost there!

[inner granite]

I can recommend Shattered Pixel Dungeon if someone wants Roguelike

[drifting bramble]

Hello. Where can i read rogue core patch notes?

[hollow bear]

https://discord.com/channels/257785731072786435/1366342511853043722

If you have discord linked through the alpha

[drifting bramble]

ah. thats why i can't find it

thanks ❤️

[true fog]

How do you link your discord? I tried poking around some menus but I couldn't find it

[hollow bear]

Starting splash screen after the logos/Mikkel video

There's a button at the top to link

[true fog]

Ah, thanks a ton

[hollow bear]

No problem

[winter marsh]

Is anyone able to link it currently? The webpage it takes you to is not working

[azure ether]

hey guys, did you know I could've been a surgeon

[boreal plume]

chugs a blackout stout before the operation

[vestal patio]

wen the patient woke up his skeleton was missing, and the doctor was never heard from again!

[feral palm]

God I cant wait for rogue core

[clear spire]

Same
It looks so good
And it's not even in early access yet

Only thing is that Subnautica 2 early access might possibly overshadow it if Unknown Worlds decides to release it in may

Just rumors though

[feral palm]

Counterpoint just play both

[broken sable]

counterpoint you are allowed to enjoy more than one thing

[tacit urchin]

Counter-counterpoint you are NOT allowed to enjoy anything!

[tall plume]

given the bad press subnautica 2 has

I doubt it

[teal mica]

Subnautica 2 has really good press in the last few days.

Like the core fan base is overjoyed.

[polar vessel]

The bad press was from the publisher's behavior not the game

[rare glacier]

didn’t the og creators make a ai christmas movie instead of making the game or something ?

idk what the drama was about

[polar vessel]

Idk about this

I only followed the publisher drama

[compact shard]

All I've seen recently was the fired devs winning against the company that bought them. A court has forced that company to re-hire one of the devs and pay out the bonus (should they sell enough copies)

with it already being on so many wishlists, I imagine it will do fine

as for rogue core, very sad I got no playtest, but looking forward to playing EA

[teal mica]

There is one more wave of playtest invites. Might go out as early as next week.

[compact shard]

given my luck, I am doubtful

[glad sonnet]

That is exciting. I probably wont sign up for it, but I am very curious about the new biome and boss that the devs have been talking about. What little I have heard about it sounds neat

I absolutely love the designs of the guns and monsters in RC. I cant wait to get my hands on the EA version of the game

[rare glacier]

is it given at random?

[compact shard]

yes

[rare glacier]

🫡

there’s hope for me after all

[compact shard]

good luck soldier

May the gold shine upon thee

[tight shell]

Something that has me curious
Is "extraction shooter" a very weak / broad definition of a genre, and so "Rogue Core" would fit, or is it the opposite, with it having a strong / narrow definition, and "Rogue Core" not fitting

[teal mica]

DRG is more of an extraction shooter than Rogue Core is. Neither of them are an extraction shooter.

[vapid ermine]

yo guys does anyone know what the price for rogue core is going to be?

[pallid stream]

Here to tell you before someone tells you to check pins. It’s gonna be around 30 euros, like drg

[vapid ermine]

ah ight thanks

[dry lagoon]

I haven't been able to play, does Rogue Core take place after DRG's height of operation? Is our little entourage of dwarves long gone now? I might be thinking too hard

[daring hill]

rogue core takes place at the same time as season 6, give or take

season 5 alerted DRG to the corespawn and stuff happening in the corespawn, and launched the facilities and the expenite mining operations

note that they already knew about the corespawn before the events of rogue core

Then hubris of the giant galactic company got to them, and by season 6 they are prepping the reclaimres

[hazy tusk]

Canonically, season 5 was a prelude to Rogue Core, with the advent of Deep Scans (whose goal was to cultivate morkite off world) leading to the company passing safety guidelines to dig deeper and deeper than ever before. This leads to the core stones being uncovered, and presumably the Greyout, where all sites below a certain depth just went off the radar entirely. Thus, the Reclaimers were sent in.

During season 6, you can see the Ramrod sending drop pods to hoxxes, and mission control mentions that rumors of the deep scans/deep site excavations going wrong (and causing tectonic shifts that led to the discovery of Ossuary Depths) are just that- rumors

[daring hill]

Slightly wrong

[hazy tusk]

Furthermore, mission control (who says "Mission control from space rig 17 here!") has dialog in RC

[daring hill]

Obviously things aren't super clear right now, but from what I can tell it goes like this

Season 5 happens > Corespawn and Corestones are discovered > DRG digs deeper and starts setting up facilities to research whats happening, and to mine a newly discovered expenite mineral > They anger the corespawn, and the Greyout happens > As of Season 6, they already have the Ramrod and the reclaimers set up to take back facilities and stop the greyout

[hazy tusk]

Yeah some details are blurry, but what's for certain is that season 6 takes place alongside rogue core

So our dwarves are canonically still kicking it

[dry lagoon]

Ohhh so that's the connection between the deep scan side effects and the scanner deadzone. Basically the reclaimers go down to go where no dwarf had ever stepped

[daring hill]

yeah

[hazy tusk]

The Reclaimers go where other dwarves have gone, because abandoned facilities, but these facilities were basically a "frontier" for the company

[daring hill]

When the facilities were actually functioning, normal dwarves + civilians + scientists went down there

you can find a ton of living quarters

[olive narwhal]

And portable toilets

Very important part of the infrastructure

[boreal plume]

and the dining and streaming rooms from GSGs office :D

[dry lagoon]

Oh so the greyout was caused by increased activity and the angering of the corespawn

That has some grim implications that many dwarves and scientists died

[daring hill]

yeah, but there was some gap of time, seemingly 6 months or longer, between season 5 and the events of rogue core

[hazy tusk]

The only reason I disagree is that, iirc, the voice lines from the season 5 assignment specifically talk about how the deep scans have caused the company to go deeper than ever before, and it's the success of deep scans that leads them to go past current safety boundaries. Core Stones are less the driving factor in the company going deeper, and moreso a side effect of going deeper that the company sees as a potentially useful oddity

[daring hill]

My own theory is that the facilities were born in an attempt to research the teleportation the corespawn makes use of

[hazy tusk]

I think the purpose of the facilities is Expenite, no?

[daring hill]

And that teleportation in the DRG universe is INCREDIBLY difficult, and only a few species/races have accomplished it

[daring hill]

both, I reckon

[hazy tusk]

That would make sense but I think Expenite was the main focus

[daring hill]

there are a couple of rooms you can find that are genuinely the most fucking obvious teleporters I've ever seen in my life

TBF my theory is half headcanon but like

[hazy tusk]

It's described as a wunder-mineral, and its discovery (presumably after deep scans went far down enough) was what led the company to start doing full on excavation in the deeper areas. Whatever Expenite is, it's significantly more useful than Morkite, because the motivation behind deep scans was initially just "this could allow us to not have to put in the effort to mine Morkite at all"

[daring hill]

it is impossible to theorise about the DRG universe without making things up

[hazy tusk]

Yeah that's fair

I try to keep it to what we have and the most boring explanation though

Which seems to be "new mineral company wants, they go deeper to get it, that goes badly"

Because the company never requires we bring back core stones or anything, and there's no objectives in rogue core involving bringing them back, it's just "get rid of these fucking cave monkeys and bring back green Morkite maybe"

[daring hill]

I suspect theres a difference between just "going deeper" and specifically getting close to the core, and the core stones made DRG want to do the latter

because you can go VERY deep into hoxxes without bothering the corespawn at all

[hazy tusk]

You're right, but I think it was Expenite and not core stones

Expenite is the thing the promo material harps on about, it's what the company was stated to be after, etc

[daring hill]

I do think it's the opposite: core stones made DRG want to dig deeper, and digging deeper made them discover expenite

[hazy tusk]

It seems that Expenite generally only exists beyond the point where the corespawn get triggered

[daring hill]

because if this is all for expenite exclusively, but expenite is only found close to the core

whats the missing link? How did they found out about expenite?

[hazy tusk]

But that's what the deep scans were about, like I said

Deep scans- "potential easy profits, we just need to keep drilling deeper and deeper to get more of the Morkite seeds. Drill past a certain point looking for more geodes, holy shit expenite, forget the fucking seeds. Oh yeah, those core stone things? Yeah, what about em? See what the RnD guys can do with them, maybe prevent the rifts. Wait what do you mean all the deep sites just went dark-"

[daring hill]

God I wish there was like, a quotes page or transcript for season 5 audio

[hazy tusk]

Agreed

That's the key piece of info

[daring hill]

theres one single video where every season 5 voiceline is lumped into one without saying which line is which

[hazy tusk]

I wish I still had a Reddit account, the devs are way more active there and I feel like it wouldn't be too hard to go "hey devs do y'all have the scripts for this saved still?"

AHA

The description for season 5 has it

It's both

We're both right

Ok resolution there is garbage but

Basically both core stones and Morkite seeds are known to be pushed up from deeper below, and both seem to motivate the company

But core stones seem to be moreso another one of those oddities they have us grab, and Morkite seeds are the thing the company is really excited about?

I found a video with a long play for all the season 5 content but that'd be a lot to comb through

[daring hill]

wait shit I think I saw something that kills my whole "teleportation is extremely difficult, so DRG is researching corespawn to see if they can replicate the rifts somehow" theory

yeahhh theres a reclaimers manual, and the crawler entry says this:

These apathetic fiends still hold a high place in the informal Deep Rock Galactic list of worst creatures to encounter in the work place, (ranked between the Teleporting Flesh-Spider and Beardreaper Moth)

[fierce bone]

whens the next wave of invites dropping? next week?

[daring hill]

plan is early next week yeah

[hazy tusk]

Aha ok

[daring hill]

they want to use those who already have access as guinea pigs to make sure everything is working just fine

[hazy tusk]

Dialog for the penultimate mission in season 5 points to the Morkite seeds

[hazy tusk]

This feels just a touch thin. Whatever the flesh spider is, you think they'd be researching that for teleportation, no? (Wait I misread I'm stupid)

Also what that does imply, though, is other planets DRG has mined (or at least hoxxes life we haven't seen)

Which is neat either way

[daring hill]

yeah if a "flesh-spider" can teleport, clearly its not as rare as I thought

[daring hill]

drg already had this implied in the Stalker manual entry I think

[hazy tusk]

It's a reasonable theory though, I don't think it was completely baseless

[hazy tusk]

Oh yeah, I honestly haven't looked at the miner's manual in awhile

[vestal patio]

Rogue core tomorrow

[weak tangle]

It's Rogue Core time

[jaunty sparrow]

alpha 6 is out?

[boreal plume]

It's out for those who were already testers

New invites will probably be sent out next week at the earliest

[true fog]

is there any word on the website to link your discord being fixed? it's still broken on my end at least

[tall plume]

you mean the union ?

[true fog]

i mean linking your discord to rogue core to get access to the channels

[inner granite]

@wheat river that's your thingy, i think

[wheat river]

Yeap, I'll check

[wheat river]

Hmm, server is running, can't see anything in the logs to it not working. Which error do you get? Have you already linked another account?

[wheat river]

(just deleted your message for safety since that url discord code parameter contains the permissions you granted in the auth)

It is a bit weird since it seems to lack the steam auth portion that is added from your game client. Can you DM me the snippet from the discord auth page before you click the "Authorize" button.

Alright, for clarity and anyone else encountering this issue, there is a bug in the current client patch for Alpha 6 that sends empty values for some stuff that is needed, and therefor can't be fixed server side. If more people encounter this before we deploy the next patch on monday(?), ping me, and sorry about the inconvenience 🙏

[summer tiger]

Patch on monday? Very nice

[wheat river]

For legal reasons: that's my guess for the next round of bugfixes

[clear bane]

Any idea if new path notes are posted anywhere ?

[tall plume]

they're in the alpha channel

[clear bane]

Ah I can’t see it since roles

[rancid pivot]

just under 2 months til early access. v exciting :D

[teal mica]

What?

[tall plume]

🤔

I'm gonna need an explanation for that one

I saw the deleted messages

that's a weird ass thing

but alright

[toxic atlas]

sorry my girlfriend has access to my account and likes to fuck with me by doing that

[vestal patio]

When do yall think the invites will come in

[limpid comet]

really tomorrow

at least within this week

[peak sorrel]

I pray I get access 🙏

[toxic atlas]

same

[south stump]

same

[boreal plume]

The wait for early access feels better and worse at the same time, now that we have a release date

[rancid pivot]

same, i doubt i will but that just the possibility more exciting

[vestal patio]

same

[velvet veldt]

the deep dive versions for this game look great

[vestal bridge]

Rogue core and my life is yours!

Will rogue core have DLC as in a supporter pack and cosmetics?

[feral palm]

God I hope so

I love spending money

[vestal bridge]

Me too

Give me golden cosmetics and supporter beer!

[knotty fiber]

so uhhh

still no news on playtest 6

hm

[delicate flax]

what is playtest 6

i thought they're releasing to early access soon

oh huh there is a playtest 6

[tawdry magnet]

When the game comes into early access will the soundtrack be available on Spotify? Or will that only happen when the game fully launches?

[boreal plume]

I'm not sure but you can check DRGs OST release date and it's the same date as early access release, 28th Februar 2018.

So there's a chance we get the OST on May 20th

[summer tiger]

no info yet

[teal lion]

only news we have is there testing playtest 6 atm with a different strat then usual when addressing tweaks , invites, bugs etc seems there plan to squash bugs for a weekish before sending out new invites , and to have more small patches for playtest 6 as it leads upto EA

[rapid thorn]

if i buy the early access (if its paid) will i need to buy the release version once it releases?

[olive narwhal]

The early access will eventually be the full version so no

The closed alpha is a seperate thing those in the alpha will have to buy the EA

When it drops

[rapid thorn]

okay thankies

[teal mica]

Yes and no.They are still not sure what DLC would/could look like. There will be a supporter DLC at game launch.
Mentioned during the last stream. Link will start at the appropriate time chop.
https://www.youtube.com/live/VAl-E4k1r2Q?si=cUEQGmID5UWsuT4E&t=4889

[vestal patio]

Rogue core tomorrow

[fresh patio]

cogue rore tomorrow

[left adder]

ohhh so this is a whole new game based on drg

I was wondering what this was

[dry lagoon]

the night before rogue core

[glossy widget]

the night before no email or steam notification day

[hushed merlin]

Tmr???? Huh

Oh play test

[woven apex]

did they mention anythin bout the price of rogue core at launch? =d

[summer tiger]

Pinned message

[woven apex]

thanks!

[dapper sun]

ok gsg i upgraded my pc so you can feel free to invite me to the playtest or whatever.

[river pilot]

The Steam Store Page is the only place to sign up for the playtest, right? There isn't any other method of lottery entry? We're all set to just wait and see as long as it says "You've requested access! Keep an eye out for..."?

[tall plume]

yes it's the only place and there is no other method of entry

[silk mesa]

will be there a playtest giveaway before early access launch?

[mossy ruin]

this upcoming week most likely

[tacit urchin]

Yessir

And, yeah. Someday this week

[fierce bone]

me manifesting a rogue core access key after waiting since the announcement in 2023

[boreal plume]

[thin siren]

Another playtest before 20 may?

[old swift]

yes

should be this week

thursday if i was to predict

[spark lance]

rogue core tomorrow

hopium...

[hushed merlin]

Tomorrow….

[limpid comet]

tomorrow core rogue

[silk mesa]

how will I know if I get a copy

[tacit urchin]

A pigeon will find you

Mail and it'll also appear in the steam library

[boreal plume]

I'm now imagining a pigeon delivering me a code and talking to me in Omega's voice, telling me to go reclaim the core

this is what no rogue core playtest invites does to a mf

[rare glacier]

when does rogue core come out

[tacit urchin]

Pinned

[summer tiger]

haven't you asked already?

[rare glacier]

i was curious if they changed the release date

[summer tiger]

No, there would have been an announcement

[rotund root]

ive been waiting almost 2 and a half years for this early access bro

ive been hyping it up almost since the announcement

i joined the server in august of 2023 and have been waiting

[boreal plume]

Same man, can't believe it's been 2,5 years since the teaser trailer

[summer tiger]

Soon people, soon

[boreal plume]

Yeah the wait is almost over

[rotund root]

i got my friend into drg just in time too cuz he's a roguelike addict

legit played drg to take a break from tboi and then played ror2 to take a break from drg

so i he pissed himself when i told him about rogue core

[summer tiger]

He gonna like it

[jaunty sparrow]

rogue core tomorrow

[eternal sapphire]

so i got a problem

i can't get access to the rouge core alpha tester role

i know how to do it but it gives me error 401.

so i currently can't get access to the rouge core LFGs or chats due to this error

[feral palm]

Rogue core today

[jaunty sparrow]

no, rogue core yesterday

58 days left? damn bros it feels like a dream

will the game have something with drawbacks like similar to lunar items in risk of rain

[limpid comet]

will they really invite me to the alpha test today?

[tacit urchin]

No

I'm the magic 8 ball

[old swift]

tomorrow

but it's always tomorrow

[limpid comet]

we`re rich
mushroom
big boney bone
rogue core tomorrow

[hushed merlin]

Tomorrow

[jaunty sparrow]

Tomorrow

[violet tendon]

Tomorr

[rotund root]

Rogue core tomorrow in 57 days (late but counting down to may 19)

[chrome basin]

[boreal plume]

Yes, they are called Artifacts and you can get them from a specific event

[shrewd flame]

Does anyone know if there is a defined date for next time there are more people allowed into the testing? I signed up for it about a week back

I know I probably won’t get in, just wondering when the next chance is

[daring hill]

they hope to have an invite wave early this week, but it depends on when the next patch happens and if it goes well

[shrewd flame]

I see, thanks. Are the participants chosen randomly, or does it matter how long you’ve had a request in

[old swift]

full random

[shrewd flame]

Nice (except for people that I can assume have been waiting since the beginning)

[boreal plume]

[wheat river]

Have you already linked another account?

[eternal sapphire]

yes i'm assuming that's the cause. my previous discord account was hacked so i can't really do anything about it

[wheat river]

yep, you can only link one. DM me your steam account id (it's a long number found in the url of your profile page), and your old discord account so I can verify and update the db

[west harness]

hi i have the same issue but don't think i have a previously linked account?

[wheat river]

Dm me your steam id and I'll check and update

[tacit urchin]

Rogue Core tomorrow...

[limpid comet]

morrowto core rogue

[cobalt sedge]

...worromot eroC eugoR

[limpid comet]

everyone is RETCON

constantly going back to time

[hushed merlin]

Tomorrow

[median yoke]

I feel like if I don't rogue the core I'm 3 milisseconds I may explode

[teal lion]

Full random, hopefully tomorrow

[limpid comet]

to to morrow

[vestal patio]

rotical tor tomar

[teal lion]

Hmmm maybe i should play roguecore today as a way to pass the day

[vestal patio]

ill play rouge core instead

[shrewd flame]

As far as I can tell from the chat yesterday, it’s always tomorrow (so it’s gotta be true)

[rotund root]

Rogue Core tomorrow in 56 days

[sinful loom]

for real

[boreal plume]

10 days have passed since the EA date reveal

[summer tiger]

Invite wave soon, the build is stable

[boreal plume]

that's good

thursday then probably

[hushed merlin]

Tomorrow

[teal lion]

So u mean to say i shouldnt throw these wrenches into those gears over there

[jaunty sparrow]

rogue core tomorrow (57 days)

whens the alpha 6 wave of keys tho

[limpid comet]

tomorrow

[jaunty sparrow]

TOMORROW

[limpid comet]

(or within this week)

[jaunty sparrow]

been waiting and never got access to one

[rotund root]

ive been signed up for the playtest since 2023

[hollow comet]

hopefully everyone will get keys tomorrow, it's been lonely with none of my friends having access to the game.

[teal lion]

Officially , tomorrow hopefully

[teal lion]

That aint happening , but one can hope

[teal lion]

I got in shortly after signing up u just got to bribe rngesus

[rotund root]

damn being atheist

[limpid comet]

today is thursday

[teal lion]

Today is also tuesday in other parts of the world

[limpid comet]

was it the space rig 17 standard?

[rare glacier]

so the next wave is thursday?

[teal lion]

Supposedly possibly tomorrow so like 12 hrs ish

[carmine pier]

My friend feels the same way. According to him he was actively playing about a month ago, but peak 24 hour player count back then were like 8. So finding fellow players was quite the struggle.

And currently even though the playercount is higher, he doesn't want to play as much because they removed the ability stuff from the skill tree

[hushed merlin]

Tomorrow

[weak tangle]

Do they make changes to the old guns?

[boreal plume]

I doubt it's going to be on a Wednesday, I wouldn't complain but GSG updates their games usually on a Thursday, just like last weeks alpha release

[limpid comet]

no

DARK-25 is induction

i don't know except for that

[weak tangle]

Are all old weapons from DRG, except Driller primaries, will be in RC?

[boreal plume]

Not all

If you mean all primaries, then I think the only one that's not in the game is Engis Lok-1

#rogue-core-chat message

[weak tangle]

Dang, no coil gun

Sadge

[boreal plume]

No coil gun, shard diffractor, nishanka boltshark

There are probably more that aren't in the game

[shrewd flame]

Is there the wave cooker? I’ve been staying away from rogue core content so I can do it myself when I can

[weak tangle]

Not even shard diffractor?

Double sadge

[boreal plume]

Wave cooker is also not in the game

I think only subata made it

From driller

[shrewd flame]

Shard diffractor seems like something that would be in it, but ig it’s more of an area damage weapon a lot of the time

It’d be fun if some people’s weapon concepts for drg came to rogue core eventually

[weak tangle]

CWC without Driller primaries is gonna be a very niche pick...

[boreal plume]

Apparently they brought subata but remade it into a new weapon with a different name, so probably different model too

[shrewd flame]

Yeah ig, but it still has stuff like radiation oc and stuff, blistering necrosis would also probably be good for it (my guess from not watching videos on the game)

[boreal plume]

They are bringing radiation as a type of DOT damage

With blisters

Mike, the lead game designer mentioned it on the last stream

[shrewd flame]

So the two things that cwc does without a driller primary then

Noice

I hope someday that a random concept I made a while back for a driller radiation primary would be considered, probably not but a man can dream eh

[weak tangle]

Neurotoxin is already in RC?

[boreal plume]

They're experimenting with elemental/DOT weapons so who knows

[shrewd flame]

I guess yeah. The function I came up with was like a camera flash of radiation (could just add rad with weapon mods/ocs) that does more damage at close range. Has a wide crosshair that will damage everything in it (so if it’s in the outline of it, it WILL hit, unlike cwc). Charging a shot focuses it to a smaller area

Would that work well? Or would it not for the same reason as driller’s primaries?

Well, gotta sleep, cya guys

[vagrant current]

The returning weapons are:
Warthog
Stubby
GK2
M1000
DRAK
Boomstick
Zhukovs
Bulldog
BRT7

Some return as heavy weapons which are generally stronger than the non heavy ones:
PGL
Breach Cutter
Minigun
Autocannon
Hurricane

The new ones are:
Mag Blaster
Decker SMG
Lark (basically a stronger subata)
MP2
Hammercaster
Battle Rifle
Cadna Field Projector
Devastator
Charger
Shock Striker

[weak tangle]

Dang that's a lot

You can only hold 2 weapons in a run?

[boreal plume]

yes only 2 weapons

you can find more though

and replace those you have, or take more max ammo if you want

[weak tangle]

Ok cool

Bulldog as a primary gun sounds funny to me

[vagrant current]

Grenades return, you get 1 at the start for your grenade slot. All current grenades are returning grenades:
Sticky Grenade
Incendiary
Cluster
Leadburster
Lure
Plasma Burster
Shredders
IFG
Cryo
Stun Sweeper
Impact Axe
HE Grenade

Each DRG traversal tool returns except for the grappling hook, instead letting the player pick the flare gun or the new anti grav emitter. You pick one at the start of a run.
Mid run equipment crates can give said traversal tools or any of the following support tools. These use slot 3 or 4:
Shield generator
Satchel
Jet Boots
Disposable Turret
Sympathy Tether
Combat Cocktail
Bio Transmutator
Or any grenade, letting you have an extra set on a tool slot

The grenades have been tweaked so they're roughly the same power level but still feel the same. HE grenades for example are quite a lot better.

Weapons have also been tweaked to be roughly equal, biggest changes are ammo count but some have much more significant changes like the stubby getting accuracy, reload speed, and a better electric effect by default.

The exception being heavy weapons, generally they're better than the rest.

[limpid comet]

what is the range of sympathy tether?

I know what kind of tool it is

[vagrant current]

Pretty sure 10m? Might have changed

[weak tangle]

Jet boots as a tool? How does it work?

[vagrant current]

Status effects are very different too now. Practically everything fills a meter and activates when said meter is full, like heat and cold.
Radiation spawns boils on creatures, electric arcs between targets, corrosive spawns puddles directly at the enemy.

[vagrant current]

If you put it on slot 3, now you can't put any other tool there unless you wanna lose the boots.
But they work like normal, hold space to fly even when using weapons.