rogue-core-chat

[simple cloak]

only emails I be getting from steam are sale alerts for games 🔥

[keen fern]

question, how do i give someone the key for the game?

i really wanna play with my friend

[tall plume]

#rogue-core-chat message

[tall plume]

you don't

[keen fern]

gotcha

[civic hamlet]

i got in to the alpha (yay!), how long is the testing period?

[proven current]

lets say a couple weeks

[civic hamlet]

right

[old swift]

after you have access you keep access for all playtests

[civic hamlet]

Reeeeaaally??

Sick

[red agate]

sorry for swearing, but is that fucking true that 51k people already playing rogue core alpha test and I didn't get the access😢

[median sleet]

no

[red agate]

damn im dumb as fuck that was followers statistics🤦‍♂️

[unreal carbon]

how i know its like mb 5k more of ppl? idk. but same situation here - i wanna get access so bad too mate, just lets wait and hope on next time. i hear what game get early access in end of summer and release in this year - idk true this or not, but i believe in this.

[median sleet]

the roadmap is in the pinned messages. Early access is planned for q4

[unreal carbon]

oh damn...well, now i believe in this.

ty for info

[naive moat]

I really wish we could see the player numbers

but I think that might just make people more mad at not getting in

[mossy ruin]

someone doesn't know of steamdb's existence

[coral epoch]

anyone has access to the playtest want to play wth some peps in vc

[teal mica]

Heyo. My buddy got a 2nd round invite, and we are trying to figure out how to do the +1 invite. How does it work? Where do we find it?

[old swift]

no +1 for the second or third round of invites

it didn't really work for the first round so they stopped it

[teal mica]

Oh. Why the change?

[old swift]

i got an invite first round and couldn't use +1, steam issue

[teal mica]

Well... balls.

Alright. Thanks.

[stable chasm]

Yeah it worked for some people and not for others, which makes it more frustrating than if it just didn't work period

[naive moat]

steam db doesnt show it

[stable chasm]

https://steamdb.info/app/2860770/charts/#max

Are you sure

[karmic crag]

Rock and stone lads, a question for anyone who is in the beta thingo. Is the game developing well, and at a reasonable pace?

[naive moat]

bruh I clicked on charts and nothing showed up

but your link has it

I guess its a skill issue

[stable chasm]

Happens, haha

[naive moat]

did you get in the playtest?

I was just playing earler and its so hard

[stable chasm]

Yeah I was invited in the first wave

[naive moat]

Ive tried that first mission like 6 times now

[latent viper]

Can you Rock and Stone in Rogue Core?

[stable chasm]

Of course

[naive moat]

yeah

[latent viper]

wonderful, wonderful

[proven current]

ig it would make sense if you just shout rogue and core

[stable chasm]

And your new flying drone molly waves back when you do it near it

[naive moat]

RECLAIMERS!!!!!!

[latent viper]

are there unique voicelines

or are they the same voicelines as DRG?

[stable chasm]

Some shared, many new

[latent viper]

hohoho!

[stable chasm]

The general rock and stone stuff is there, but they cheer for the reclaimers

[latent viper]

niceeee

can't wait for rogue core

[stable chasm]

And they have general banter that's relevant to rogue core

Like wishing for a shooting gallery aboard their ship

[latent viper]

heh

wish we got one in base DRG too so we can test our loadouts before we drop

[stable chasm]

I sure wonder if that specific voiceline was in reponse to a very widely requested DRG feature, yeeep

[nimble aspen]

i always thought about that, would be an interesting and useful thing and knowing the devs they would find a way to make it into a fun minigame, and not just a static target on a wall shooting range

[cold steeple]

Does Omega have a stutter or is that just my computer?

[proven current]

i think i saw a stream where omega stutter too so i guess thats normal

[keen fern]

the game as of right now is extremely fucking hard

it really makes you speed run through levels and its not forgiving

once those waves become endless its a pain in the ass to even get out, also i would like some sort of indication to where the escape elavator is when the time grows thin im over here scuttling about checking my map constantly while i run into endless waves of spitters

As hard as the game in it's still extremely enjoyable

[devout cedar]

Just got access to the playtest but 99% of games are greyed out and the ones that aren't fail to join, any way to get around this?

[keen fern]

that means they're full

and or too deep into the mission

so you either have to run solo or wait and keep refreshing

we got a game up currently or im in one

[stable chasm]

Omega has random glitching out stutters, it's not your computer box

[serene basin]

Hey. Is there a way to invite another steam friend to play the rogue core playtest?

[carmine zenith]

No

Steam beta invite access was shut off, iirc

[serene basin]

tragic.

[cold steeple]

2.5 hours in with one succesful extract - greed is truly a dwarf's enemy

[void tartan]

Dont worry i came in blind and since i havent played DRG for awhile i was literally blind because i forgot to use flares

[naive moat]

do the bio booster even work?

oh wait Ithink the bio booster mean the upgrades you get in missions right?

[void tartan]

I think they do because i got one that gave me ammo back for kills and i did noticethe ammo when i was out

[royal solstice]

is rogue core open beta or closed?

[gloomy sinew]

Closed Alpha

[normal crystal]

i cant believe the way to defeat the boss is to throw its balls into the jaws (of hell)

[forest stump]

anyone experienced this? my character won't stop mining (don't laugh) as in it seems like right click is stuck

can't do anything because of it

[polar rain]

Where do you go to find a group for Rogue Core? normal LFG?

[unborn plank]

Still didn't get in

[old swift]

when you launch the game you have to click the discord icon/banner

it gives you the rogue core role here for alpha channel access

might be ingame somewhere as well? don't remember

[native monolith]

If your balls got thrown into the pit of endless despair you’d also probably die

[polar rain]

says i need to verify but ive definetly done that already

[static sage]

3 waves of invites and still not in, haha i cant wait to get in

[inner granite]

Your math isn't mathing

Only 2 were sent

[old swift]

https://steamcommunity.com/games/2605790/announcements/detail/534352273139042563 so true

[inner granite]

Wait what

It was so fast

[median sleet]

They probably felt like not enough people actually played the playtest. Pretty sure they added more people then the first one, but the playercount is still less

[iron flare]

Devs realised more people want in

[median sleet]

Most likely because in the first playtest they also gave keys to people who gave feedback during s5 experimental. And those people were pretty much guaranteed to play

[elfin fjord]

having a weird problem, can't stop melee attacking. even once i get my weapon i cant use it because my character keeps melee attacking. restarted the game and still persists

has anyone else encountered this?

[median sleet]

click the join discord button on bootup to get access to the bug reporting channel

[wheat river]

Dm me your steam profile

[inner granite]

-# Jenny will steal your steam cards

[outer spade]

: D i am one of you now

[outer spade]

I have the game on and its all mixed colours...

Now it's back to normal when I sed that..

[inner granite]

High Rock Galactic

[outer spade]

It was mostly blue and purple

I'm on a laptop playing it it's a bit laggy but not unplayable

[atomic ruin]

one day i will get into the playtest

[deft bear]

Jenny already knows all your passwords, address, social security number, credit card details, IP and what the name of your first pet was to reset your account's password 👀

[wheat river]

Correct so there is no harm for anyone to send me all of this

-# (I think I am legally requierd to say, dont)

[deft bear]

"For legal reasons this was a joke" - Jenny.

Problem solved ✅

[wheat river]

I need that laminated

[outer spade]

yo other people that have Rogue Core with not that well pc or laptop, how to make it run better? like other settings to lower or what fps is good

[daring hill]

same as normal DRG, but theres a limit

not a finished game after all

it can very well just run like shit of its own fault

[median sleet]

Yeah, in big swarms the game becomes pretty unfun due to the low FPS

Though my PC is pretty old so that isn't helping

[mossy pagoda]

yo i got a question

my friend got into the rogue core playtest

is there anyway for them to like invite me to it?

[median sleet]

no

[mossy pagoda]

😭

im guessing i must be added to it myself by ghost ship

[median sleet]

Yeah, you have to get lucky

[mossy pagoda]

would be very nice to finally be able to play it

[median sleet]

first wave had +1's but it didn't work for some people and others were able to start infinite invite chains so they removed it from wave 2

[civic nest]

anyone else crashing rogue core after changing settings?

[gray lotus]

Okay guys I need to know

Has the core really gone rogue ?

[twilit ledge]

Yes but its the vampiresurvivor not the isaac kind...

[gray lotus]

Damn

[stray terrace]

where is the rogue core?

where is the elden ring

[gray lotus]

It might be in the core

[stray terrace]

every core has breaking point

[barren matrix]

i was told that you could invite a friend into the rogue core alpha how does that work?

[tall plume]

#rogue-core-chat message

[barren matrix]

ohh okay thanks for letting me know

[stray terrace]

5 games in and still no rogue core

[civic nest]

How can I play Rogue Core without DX12? Every time I uncheck DX12 and re-launch the game, it still has DX12 turned on

[tall plume]

you can't

as far as I'm aware

[raven wharf]

UE5 supports dx11 as far as I'm aware. I don't think that setting is hooked up. No idea if it will be or not.

A lot of options in settings aren't hooked up right now. None of those are bugs.

[civic nest]

for DRG, whenever you start the game, it asks you different launch options

but not for this

[tall plume]

DRG is also a fully completed 7 years old game, and Rogue Core is in its alpha phase with options not being fully implemented

[civic nest]

Everytime i play on DX12 my game crashes both on DRG and Rogue Core

Do you think i can try the launch options? I need to check

[mossy ruin]

maybe you could try forcing RC to launch using a different directX if you you add "-" options to the launch options

it's an advanced option on steam

[raven wharf]

looks like launch options work at least to load into the space rig.

[civic nest]

I will try with the -dx11 launch option

[stray terrace]

i dont like the tension between me and the randoms when waiting for someone to pick the first perk/weapon

[hard frigate]

What does that mean?

[civic nest]

-dx11 launch option seems to work

[tall plume]

@civic nest I suggest you click the ingame discord link to join the closed testing channels

[stray terrace]

has anyone made it to the rogue core yet

[civic nest]

can't find people starting from facility 2 so i dnt think so

[tall plume]

what does that even mean ?

[stray terrace]

the core

its gone rogue

and we need to get to it

or something horrible is gonna happen

[tall plume]

if you mean finishing the game's current content, then yes

[civic nest]

nothing opens up when i click the discord icon

[cold steeple]

Same

[civic nest]

can I invite friends to try rogue core or no

[tall plume]

no

[civic nest]

ok ty

[rancid minnow]

If/when I get into the next closed beta, will I be able to see all previous patch notes as well? Or just the ones I was there for

[tall plume]

you'll be able to see all the previous patch notes for the closed alpha

[rancid minnow]

cool

[rough plume]

Is there a rogue core lfg channel?

[stable chasm]

Yes, in the alpha channels

Join them through the game's launch screen

[tall plume]

click the ingame discord link to join the closed testing channels
might need multiple tries

[rough plume]

Got it, thank you

[atomic canyon]

how could this happen to meeeeeeeee, still no acceeeesssss, my friends i brought into the gameeeeee, all get to play rogue core withouuuut meeeeeeeeeee.... thank you...

[pallid beacon]

I didnt get access either but like

did they not invite you??

there's an invite button that allows you to bring one person into the test with you iirc

[median sleet]

There are no +1's anymore

[long breach]

Not at the moment, they removed it since it wasnt working well

[pallid beacon]

aw man

[long breach]

It was only in the first wave they tried it

[pallid beacon]

I was relying on that fact

rest in peace

[atomic canyon]

😔 we'll get em next time miners...

[stable chasm]

Gotta change your mindset for it! We're reclaimers, not miners!

[vestal hull]

I got play Rogue core it's fun

[atomic canyon]

i wouldn't know...

reclaimers huh.... :D i think i can get used to that

[barren matrix]

nada

[turbid elbow]

Super bummed that I haven't gotten an invite, but also optimistic/excited that they sent out more invites so soon after the second wave

In Karl I shall find solace

[barren matrix]

moussee

@verbal shadow

[tall plume]

please use the ingame link to access the closed testing channels and use the LFG

[barren matrix]

😔 sorry

[verbal shadow]

What's up?

[barren matrix]

idk if it was you but someone with ur user lagged out

[random belfry]

Mine hard, mine deep and mine for the ( non bearded ) lass at home. She demands amulets of aquarks!

[verbal shadow]

Could've been, I had joined a few lobbies which was 300+ ping for me

[stray terrace]

Pls give more Aussies access to rogue core me and a random played for 3 hour last night and couldn't get a single other person to join☹️

[plush bane]

just saw i got invited to the alpha

[plush bane]

i just saw i got invited and im an aussie

[forest stump]

still experiencing this, wondering if anyone else has encountered

[deep skiff]

When did you get the invitation?

[civic nest]

are you in-game and thought ppl could join you? This is working different than DRG and ppl cant seem to join missions already running

idk if this is intentional

[stray terrace]

oh maybe thats why

[median sleet]

it is

[stray terrace]

we werent waiting aroun in the lobby

i beat 1st facility

but where is the rogue core?

[gritty matrix]

sorry i got hungry

[stray terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-of-the-galaxy-guardians-of-the-galaxy2-peter-quill-star-lord-star-lord-what-gif-24549462

[soft crest]

@deep agate Sorry for the ping, but im in the alpha, but i dont have the alpha tag?

[deep agate]

did you click the link in the game when you boot it up?

[gritty matrix]

can you access #discussion-rc-alpha

oh wait what. im dum sorry i thought you had the role

[soft crest]

oh im dumb

[spark iris]

I've heard from watchin previous alpha gameplay from people on youtube that you could invite one friend to the alpha but I have no Idea how. If this is a thing does anyone here know how to do it? I'll keep googling but I haven't found anything yet.

[old swift]

you can't, some people could first wave of keys but it was buggy so they stopped

[spark iris]

alright. Thanks.

[finite tundra]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XF0sNYbuMjk?si=B19HbLutdWdAK0jW
very balanced yes

Love me some Inf stun and inf shield

God I wish I could play so I can find funny combos like this

[tall plume]

click the ingame discord link (might need multiple tries)

[safe raft]

Silly ghost ship, you forgot my invite code again! 😄

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/did-they-linda-cardellini-judy-hale-christina-applegate-jen-harding-gif-17812811

[plush bane]

2 days ago?

[glossy heath]

a new class has arrived - Berserker

[finite tundra]

I preferred pick guy but that works too

[torn reef]

is the overseer ai temporary? i really dislike him and i feel the only reason people dont despise mission control tutorializing you is because hes relatable and funny.

[median sleet]

He isn't

[tall plume]

some things are still placeholders but the whole concept of it is here to stay

[blissful mantle]

Currently, I think rouge core feels like what they wanted deep dives to be. I know years ago they wanted to rework deep dives, but it seems we got a whole game.

[vestal patio]

Maybe next playtest they'll invite me

[wary tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-gif-5433796

[tall plume]

I can safely tell you they're not gonna be redoing deep dives

way too late for that

[blissful mantle]

One of my biggest concerns from the way they talked about the ramrod was that it was going to be more cramped than the rig. But to my enjoyment there is still plently of room to dwarf around in, and we even have more tunnels than before.

[void turtle]

so you are telling me they might redo elite deep dives?

[blissful mantle]

my tin hat theory is that this is deep dives rework.

But they cooked so hard it got a full game

[mossy ruin]

doubt

[blissful mantle]

I mean, we are diving deep, are we not?

[void turtle]

I'm not, I'm at the Abyss Bar.

[blissful mantle]

I hope we get to actually get sodas from the vending machine and throw them at our freinds.

[tall plume]

no

[void turtle]

neo

[civic nest]

don't be a bloody leaf lover and start being toxic

this game is still in alpha, not even early access

tried 2 days and found toxic players already

[crude frost]

Yeah ran into someone who was pretty toxic in in-game chat on day one of the new wave.

[civic nest]

same, im surprised

haven't found anyone on DRG but this

people are often stuck with the right click bugs or the settings and they get mad

[inner granite]

I am pretty toxic

I have +2d6 of toxic damage and +3d4 of toxic resistance

rolls

Fuck, nat 1...

[civic nest]

You leaf-fondling son of a mud golem! We're on the same team!

[normal crystal]

dont tell GSG but insivible creepers are actually easier to see, and if you have power drills you can just dig under the vaults.

[rare briar]

Do we have to have leaf lovers special on the ramrod

[inner granite]

There's no time for fucking around in reclaimers team
The duty calls

Our DRG dwarfs are silly

Reclaimers were sent to the hell and expected to remove hell

[rare briar]

You sed duty

[civic nest]

[proven current]

just for curiosity what did that person do?

and how can you be toxic in a pre-alpha lmao

[crude frost]

Calling people some real horrible stuff

[vapid glacier]

Is the test still rolling out?

I hope to be able to join

Or is there a limit?

[tall plume]

are you asking if invites are still being sent ?

[vapid glacier]

Yeah

I wanna hop on a game or two

If I get chosen that is

[tall plume]

then no

[vapid glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-crying-walter-dying-gif-20964719

[tall plume]

you'll have to wait until the next wave

[vapid glacier]

What’s the maximum amount of invites sent out in one wave?

[proven current]

they keep adding a couple thousand invites per wave, so its a matter of time to get invited

[steel aspen]

how do you get chosen to be invited anyway?

[proven current]

totally random, you'll get a notification via email or you'll just see it popup in your library at steam

[steel aspen]

Ooo interesting, I thought it might have been the 900 hours, but I think people must have way more than that

[dense sleet]

Can I get a link to the google form playtest survey? The ingame one opens the steam overlay browser which does not work, doesn't even let me copy the url.

[tall plume]

click the ingame discord link to join the closed tester channel and ask in there

(might need multiple tries)

[simple cloak]

E

[main dome]

They would want a variety of viewpoints for feedback - people with a lot of hours would likely value the same things which isn’t their only audience

Gotta consider a more casual audience as well

[steel aspen]

true true

[stone wigeon]

rogue core is rough but so fun

[tardy sandal]

This

[frigid path]

https://tenor.com/view/th-drg-deep-rock-deep-rock-galactic-solaos-gif-19570781

[stone wigeon]

I know youre supposed to upgrade and rng and all that

but man ammo is such a hard resource to manage

[white violet]

can someone link me the doc to leave suggestions and the like i would really appreacite it :)

appreciate

[lilac frost]

I'm at like 1500, but they said it's not based on hours in DRG so, I'll just wait impatiently over here while my friend plays 😭

[inner granite]

☝️ 🤓

[left plaza]

Just wondering if the second wave of testers have been sent out

[gritty matrix]

the third wave has, in fact

[finite tundra]

No?

1, 2 then ?

There was one very recently

One a while before that

When was the third

[tall plume]

pinned messages

[next rivet]

Has anyone tried playing rogue core on Linux (proton)? I assume it will be similar to DRG but some insight would be great (:

[finite tundra]

Ah I see I completely missed it

[thin siren]

https://www.protondb.com/app/2605790

[finite tundra]

?

[finite tundra]

Wait a minute I need to check my gmail

[next rivet]

Ah nice there weren't reports last time I checked.

[finite tundra]

Dammit

[thin siren]

He wants to know if anyone has run DRGRC on Proton. The answer is yes!

[finite tundra]

Guess I may as well get my hours up to 800 on drg as I wait since I’m at like 784

Wait I didn’t check my steam notifs there is still hope

[thin siren]

Will RC be crossplay in the future?

[tall plume]

no

[finite tundra]

I should've known there is no hope god dammit

alright nothing I can do about it now

back to DRG

[frosty cairn]

y rogue core when there's drg?

[gritty matrix]

see above

[summer tiger]

Different loop and systems different enough that the code of DRG does not allow you to put RC content inside. Easier to make a whole new game.

[frosty cairn]

so basically drg 2?

[mossy ruin]

kind of
but with roguelite elements

and faster paced

[tall plume]

not really

it's not a sequel

[summer tiger]

No, Rogue Core. Something completely different.

[simple cloak]

Gotta be rage bait at this point 🗿

[vapid glacier]

GHOST SHIPP!!!!! GIVE ME ACCESS TO YOUR GAME!!!!! AND MY STEAM DOLLARS IS YOURS!!!!

(They’re worth a lot btw)

[acoustic ginkgo]

We should build a ghost ship for Ghost Ship Games in hopes of getting access to Rogue Core

[deft bear]

Well actually

[lunar pawn]

Does anyone know if gsg has plans to have a Rogue core game preview on consoles prior to release

[compact shard]

We have been told that console development development is not going to start until early access is released. As for the full release once early access is done, I don't know

[lunar pawn]

Ok, thank you

[long crypt]

hell yeah i got access to playtest

(idk if everyone has)

[pulsar owl]

can confirm not everyone has access

[long crypt]

rip

[errant kiln]

wat

ahh away it goes

[uncut quartz]

I'll code a mod that turns the ghost bulk into a ship if it gets me access to rogue core (I don't know how to mod but I'll find a way)

[whole haven]

hey folks the alpha's unplayable for me

this persisted after a reinstall

i tried rebinding too

[dense sleet]

I submitted my feedback survey yesterday and kind of trashed guardian, but today someone told me that his ability has a secondary fire and it changes everything

[old swift]

yeah that by far makes guardian my favorite

everyone else's abilities feel a bit disappointing when guardian's gauntlet is so flexible and interesting

[forest rain]

is single player a thing in rouge core? and more importantly, if it is, how well is it implemented?

[crude frost]

Yep, so far there's a bosco drone named Cooper who helps you out

[forest rain]

nice

[outer spade]

cooper is friend in the lonely times

[terse cedar]

Are they only doing like 1k people per playtest wave or something?

[amber creek]

Woah hol up there's a 4th wave of invites?

[normal crystal]

the expenite crasus is frankly a waste of time.

i'd fight it again if the giant bombs in its back where dropped as expenite crystals but unless you got a full team, someone has power drills, and its near a wall when it dies, its just not worth the time and ammo cost.

[stone wigeon]

agreed

[vapid glacier]

Maybe of ore exploding onto the walls, it’s like 5-10 chunks of it?

They can remodel the cracus to have just chunks of exponite growing off its back or smth

If the whole game you want to move through quickly

It doesn’t seem like a good idea for rewarding the players with more time loss just to get a few upgrades

But what do I know I haven’t even received access to the game yet lol

[keen fern]

just realized why i was so bad at the game

because i was playing with others and my ping was so damn high

just beat area 2 solo, based

[delicate flax]

i wonder if rogue core save files will be transferred once you buy the game after alpha ends

[deep skiff]

Obviously not. Each new update on the playtest your save file gets erased. It’s a playtesting

[delicate flax]

Ah I didn't know that was a thing

[restive hazel]

Anyone know how you actually submit feedback on Steam, all it doews when I hit the button is open my overlay, where do I go from there>

[outer spade]

yo i used it and it not working like i dont have the channels or chat for it... i have rouge core and press it

some times and pressed authorise for it

[median sleet]

did you use the join discord button you see when you boot up the game?

[outer spade]

yes

[median sleet]

try restaring steam, it might also take a few tries

[outer spade]

👍

[wheat river]

And you didn't accidentally auth a different discord account that was logged into the browser first?

[outer spade]

rested steam a d it worked now

it ok now thx

[wheat river]

Ah ok ye it was an old steam ticket then

[north condor]

man, ammo is such a consistent issue in solo runs. makes this game pretty frustrating to play.
simply having the agility to take all 4 of the ammo slots from an ammo pod could fix that

like, idk how many runs iv lost, simply because iv run out of ammo

[tall plume]

I've only been running out of ammo in the boss fight, personally

[sleek swallow]

I have the opposite issue of resupplying just for the sake of resupplying while I'm already over 50%

[olive narwhal]

Tasty armour

[sleek swallow]

I've had to force myself to waste ammo more often just because, so that I feel better about resupplying below 50%

I think the only thing I get from resupplies is armor honestly

[tall plume]

same

[sleek swallow]

but yeah closest I've come to running out of ammo was the boss fight

[oblique remnant]

Lads I got a question if you get an access to the beta test for drgrc I think I remember somebody saying that I can invite one extra friend. I can’t seem to figure out a way to do this. Am I missing something or can I just not do it?

[paper schooner]

That was only durringthe first wave of invites. That Steam feature was/still is in beta was buggy so we descided to not use it again.

[oblique remnant]

That sucks but hey there’s always the off chance that they can get it. I’m guessing around a month give or take still anyway thank you.

[north condor]

are you running solo?

[sleek swallow]

yes

[north condor]

then idk

iv had a pretty consistent issue with ammo. the few times iv actually completed a run, id gotten an artifact that gave double ammo or something, and the rest was luck i guess.
a random guess off the top of my head, id say about 2/3 of the runs are lost, simply because iv run out of ammo

the rest is me not managing my time correctly or something

[sleek swallow]

how much time are you spending on a single stage?

[north condor]

the full ten mins

or more. sometimes 12 or 13

i like to get every drop of expinite i can

[sleek swallow]

well I do the same so I am not sure

I think one stage I even stayed 20 minutes in

[north condor]

idk. what weaopons do you go for generally? single shot, high damage? or is your accuracy just really good or something

[queen gull]

it might be a weapon issue rather an ammo availibility issue?

[north condor]

or is there some strat to avoid hords?

[north condor]

postentually. could just be the amount of reserve ammo being imbalanced across weapons. i think iv had more losses with the deepcore (submachine gun. cant remember the name) than most other weapons. i actually had an awesome run with the boom stick. that was a good one

[sleek swallow]

still not familiar with the names of the new weapons but I think I got like the charging weapon and there was another that was a single shot with a lot of damage and once I went for gk2

[north condor]

the 1000 whatchimacall it?

m1000 i think

[sleek swallow]

m1000 is already in drg so no

[queen gull]

you mean the thunder pistol that jumps?

[sleek swallow]

it was a new weapon

[north condor]

ill give one more run a go.
but the recommendation is single shot, high damage weapons?

[queen gull]

the one you put your finger into for the idle animation?

[sleek swallow]

I am not quite sure

[sleek swallow]

Idk just go with whatever is most comfortable you feel honestly, keep experimenting

[north condor]

i guess.. iv just had so many bad runs from a lack of ammo its disheartening.
i really want to actually play this game, but failing over and over from running out of ammo isnt fun

[queen gull]

the ammo issues could also happen depending on your vectors some demand more damge from players meaning more ammo

[north condor]

idk how you guys are managing, but its been frustrating for me

[queen gull]

ive had some dead runs to ammo , mainly because all the ammo is at the first chamber and i cant backtrack in time

[north condor]

yeah. try to avoid the things that give enemies health exactly because it just chews through ammo

yeah.
i guess as a feature request, an upgrade type that gives a token that can allow you to call down an ammo pod would be nice. wont be used often of course, but for those times you need it, it would be nice

also a bug, for any dev looking, if you move between stages and you nearly have a level available, any expinite you carry with you between levels wont cause the level up, even tho it should. happened last run (also happened a while back as well if i remember correctly) and i submitted a bug report, but thought id let yall know about it. losing a level like that is a bit annoying

[sleek swallow]

there is an upgrade if I recall correctly that gives you more ammo maybe that one could help you but I think you need a good amount to reach it

[north condor]

i got an artifact that was good. double ammo

[sleek swallow]

I mean one you can equip in the ramrod

[north condor]

ramrod?

[sleek swallow]

that's the ship you start in, it's like the space rig in drg

[north condor]

ahh right

yeah ill have to get that one then

ill go one last run tho. see if i can get something that will carry me

[sleek swallow]

alright good luck with your run

[amber creek]

Ultimate manifestation on getting that rogue core closed alpha invite

[tardy sandal]

PSA: Red Sugar Upgrades are good, use them

[queen gull]

i was having such a good run and crashed t.t

[median sleet]

I think they're bugged and heal way too much sometimes

[deft bear]

We were playing with 4 people just now and it crashed at the last stage 😦

Hopefully they figure it out soon 👀

But that's how tests go, can't say I wasn't expecting stuff like this xD

[crude frost]

I lost connection once after killing the final boss. Granted this was a US host and i'm AU.

[glass kernel]

Does the closed alpha invite pop up on steam too?

[wary tiger]

You should get both an email and a steam notification, yes

Saying you have the playtest in your library

[strong plinth]

buddy got access and i didnt

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cry-spongebob-squarepants-gif-24438933

[steel summit]

Can't access be gifted from a player that has it?

[crude frost]

no

[strong yew]

is there a way i can get into the beta easier? I am absolutely fiending to try this game out ;-;

[gloomy sinew]

Embed failure

[deep skiff]

The request access system of Steam clearly doesn't really work. Thousands of people have been invited in and only a few people at most just been playtesting it.

All of that problem can be solved by simply doing this invitation system on GSG website. Unless that is already possible and i didn't look hard enough.

[raven wharf]

Not everyone who has access or owns a game plays it concurrently. There’s going to be people who were interested and now aren’t, those that are busy and are time limited, etc.

[deep skiff]

That i certainly believe. What i don't believe is that only 45 people try it at best out of the thousands of people 'invited'.

It's definitely the steam invitation system being crappy as always. Every alpha/beta testing i have been into was always subbing to a website for the invitation instead of using the steam request access, there is a reason why they do it.

[deep skiff]

Also subbed to the newsletter, got my high chances there to get in now.

[stable chasm]

Nothing seems to indicate that the feature isn't working. People can sign up ahead of time and end up being busy. Some people will dedicate a little time only. Some will wait for more glaring bugs to be squashed. Timezones are a thing, etc etc

If the amount of players isn't satisfactory, they'll just invite more. And invites are completely at random.

[inner granite]

GSG hates you

[acoustic warren]

Real

Out of the 20+ friends I have that signed up I was the only one who got access and I am so grateful

[next crater]

not true, we just like the friend more

[frigid path]

Does that mean that having less friends gives a better chance of getting a key?

[median sleet]

time to eliminate my friends

[sharp ether]

More codes soon I pray😔

[median sleet]

@dense root I assume I was playing with you. Sorry, my game crashed and it refuses to start again

[wispy citrus]

Is there a fix to the pickaxe eternally swinging glitch?

[hollow bear]

Had to restart my PC to get it to stop the one time it happened

[inner granite]

Thank you

[vapid glacier]

GHOST SHIP!!!!!! INVITE ME!!!!!

[inner granite]

no

[fierce kestrel]

I've used the steam invite thing a lot it's actually pretty good

[pulsar owl]

One can take a look at how many people have the rogue core access role and realize that steam invites are working fine

[outer shadow]

is there an LFG for ROgue core?

[oblique nest]

where can i go to resport bugs in rogue core?

[tall plume]

@outer shadow @oblique nest click the ingame discord link to join the closed testing channels

[undone flame]

Idea defend large explosive for it to be transported to large mineral tunnel then big boom.( If destroyed basically very large bulk boom x4)

[tall plume]

that sounds more like a suggestion to DRG than RC

[undone flame]

Idk just random idea

[tall plume]

We already have a kind of "escort" event in the cave in RC

which is painfully slow in a game where you're supposed to go fast

[undone flame]

I would think it's more of a drilavetor kinda thing

We're it goes dow

Down

[vocal jewel]

And painfully painful in a game where health is a resource...

[undone flame]

While your at top

Stoping things from going on the tunnel

I would think it would be at the end tho

Like the thing with the big portal but you lower the bomb

Idk

[stray terrace]

"my arse is itchy"

[undone flame]

Well now I have the urge to play driller talking about bombs

[glossy heath]

I hope the developers change the explosion of the mineral detonator (gold (i mean that change need in original game) or expanite) to several large solid pieces of minerals - because when you wave ⛏️, your chair burns.

[limpid sail]

Hello i've been made to belive that I can get early access codes here from someone called @jacob. If its possible i would love one please? as a drg content creator i've been desperate to play/stream rogue core. Thanks

[median sleet]

The only way to get in is to sign up on steam and hope you get selected

[limpid sail]

Ahh seems cube father was miss informed thanks anyway, had to try

[median sleet]

Some people got personal invites in wave 1, but I don't think they're still sending many of those

[cursive ridge]

Hey guys, what are the classes in this game?

[median sleet]

slicer, guardian, spotter, falconer

[oblique nest]

ohh ok, thank you

[wraith goblet]

Will this game come out on PS4?

[lilac heart]

It’s not planned

[harsh lynx]

(but it could happen after the full release, just no plans right now as I understand)

[hybrid flax]

if there an lfg for the alpha?

[median sleet]

click the join discord button when you boot up the game

you'll get a role that gives access to tester channels

[hybrid flax]

<3

[oblique nest]

where is this again?

[wraith goblet]

Ok then I will leave the discord

[lilac heart]

[stable chasm]

Isn't the ps4 a little behind the times now? It'd be a weird thing to support for a game with half a decade ahead of it, no?

[sullen reef]

yes

[olive hound]

Console players should wait for the PS6 mega + wow

[north condor]

i saw there was a patch on steam. what changed? mostly bug fixes?

[proven current]

just a buggy texture in the skullcrusher framework, nothing more

[north condor]

i see

speaking of, where do i go post bugs? i found another buggy texture in regards to the pointer. you can see some kinda square (thats obviously not suppose to be there) from an off axis view

like, i can use the bug reporting feature, but i feel id post more if i had somewhere in here to post bug reports

then i could update bugs if they turned out to be wrong, or write down the correct steps for how to reproduce it once i figure out how to do the bug with some consistency

[stable chasm]

More like "Oops we can't really push updates properly anymore because Rogue Core needs to still support a console that'll be around 15 years old when the game releases out of early access"

[north condor]

tbf, the game runs great. low poly and pretty inexpensive lighting from what i can see

so it may not be tooo crazy tome consuming to get it working on older hardware

[stable chasm]

At the moment it's more demanding/less optimized than DRG

Also bug posting goes in the alpha channels that you can join when you boot rogue core

[north condor]

can you # the chat? i may have access to it already, but im not sure

[stable chasm]

It has its own entire section

#report-rc-alpha-bug

[north condor]

dont have it

one sec

one thing im quite excited to see on unreal engines roadmap is more multi threading from the rendering thread. hopefully this allows the level generation to be async, reducing hitching and allowing hitbox generation to be done async.

this would allow more large terrain chunks to be destroyed without causing lag.

well, im assuming its not already async. the loading screen with the big hitch sorta makes me think its not async. iv experianced similar hitches when working with procedural mesh generation

tried to make it async and it just crashed my unreal engine

[stable chasm]

The only real hiccups I experience in DRG are the small lag when someone joins, besides that, eh

[north condor]

im specifically refurring to at the very start of the run, in the loading screen. you load half the bar, then it stalls for a few seconds, then loads all at once. i think that stall is the hit box being generated main thread. or at the very least, pushed to the main thread. it might do 90% of the hitbox async, then do the remaining 10% on the main thread

idk. if a dev wants to let me know how wrong i am, that would be appreciated. iv been wanting to make driving game with procedurally generated landscapes, and the only thing really stopping me is the hitbox generation being forced on the main thread

something like 2ms for the actual mesh, and 100ms for the hitbox

[median sleet]

crash fixes and announcement that playtest 2 has concluded

also a fix to the shield because it would last 120 seconds instead of 6

[north condor]

i see

[errant glacier]

Where would i see the alpha update notes?

[dapper crescent]

In the alpha channels when you have access to them. Gain access to them by clicking the discord link in the game.

[errant glacier]

i dont have the game, just wondering whats going on in it

[rancid minnow]

unfortunately we must wait till we get access

[olive hound]

I can wait no problem.
The finer version i get in to play RC the better.

[feral orbit]

heloł how i can get early access plsssssss

[vocal jewel]

same way people win lottery

pure luck

[native monolith]

Let’s go gambling
(First wave)
Aw dang it
(Second wave)
Aw dang it

[feral orbit]

fr me

[median sleet]

There was even a third wave

[torpid mural]

I thought there were only 2?

[inner granite]

3

[torpid mural]

how recent bc second wave was 9 days ago

[inner granite]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2605790/view/534352273139042562?l=english

[near leaf]

It was sent 2 days after the second

[torpid mural]

oh I see

[inner granite]

Ooops, i sent it in polish

[pulsar owl]

the technique is to lose track of the developments

[turbid elbow]

Wtb wave 4 pst

[tight wing]

are there going to be glyphids?

it seems like the default enemy is going to be the corespawn, but does that mean we dont get ourr stevey boys?

[old swift]

no glyphids

[tight wing]

how dissapointing

where did you hear this?

like a dev interview or something

[old swift]

probably this channel

but there's also no glyphids in the game atm except expenite bulks

[orchid berry]

Is there a lore reason for expenite bulks

Normal bulks are exploders that manage to survive and mutate, crassus are mutated versions of bulks due to some kind of chemical reaction

What creates an expenite bulk

[gritty matrix]

r&d perhaps

[tall plume]

given that the ingame name is "test subject", I think it's easy to at least imagine how they're created

[void linden]

[finite tundra]

How many weeks till wave 4

They did a double wave so I’m assuming at least 2 weeks or so

Doubt they’d be in dire need of genii pigs for the time being

[tall plume]

nobody but the devs know

[finite tundra]

I assumed as much still worth a shot to see if anybody has info

[tall plume]

I'm not sure why you'd think anyone outside of the devs would have such info tbh

[finite tundra]

I didn’t but sometimes the devs chat here

[tall plume]

and if there was available info the public, it would be pinned in this channel

[finite tundra]

Fair enough I don’t use discord a lot so I often forget pins even exist

I’m off to go do some more mining

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/time-for-rock-and-stone-rock-and-stone-deep-rock-galactic-dwarven-mining-stole-the-wife-and-kids-gif-4069740831590852865

[karmic crag]

Do we know if the devs gonna end support for drg to focus entirely on rogue core upon release?

[mossy ruin]

support for drg is not ending

works on season 6 will begin when RC launches in early access

this is pinned

[finite tundra]

Yes we know that is absolutely not gonna happen

[karmic crag]

must've missed it sorry

[tribal jay]

did they announce a release date yet?

[median sleet]

q4 early access

[dire veldt]

hey guys is there another way too get access too rogue core without just getting lucky in steam selection process?

[simple cloak]

🗿

[raven wharf]

No.

[dire veldt]

oh ok

guess im out of luck then

[obtuse kettle]

Hey I’ve recently been playing and seen the small sharks flying around, and to my knowledge all of the entities that were shown off in stream were added. But I haven’t encountered the large shark, is it in the alpha at all?

[tall plume]

it's not currently in use

[obtuse kettle]

Nooo I was so excited for the hammerhead

[potent needle]

what are the requirements like for rc?

[median sleet]

Hardware requirements?

[potent needle]

y

[median sleet]

Something slightly better then the DRG requirements

[potent needle]

slightly

[median sleet]

Well, it's hard to know since the game is still in closed alpha

[potent needle]

thanks

[median sleet]

so bad performance is pretty normal right now

[obtuse kettle]

I am still using a computer from 5 years ago to date, and I am running the game perfectly. its just the loading menus that struggle in the alpha

[hybrid flax]

I've just realised the rogue core alpha seems to be giving me cards for DRG survivor, I do own the game though but I havent got it installed. Im also not sure if or where I should report it.

[median sleet]

cards were added recently, if you had any playtime in the game before they added cards, you'll still recieve them

[hybrid flax]

Ahh thats what it'll be, thank you and my bad for the ping Mr mod.

[tacit glen]

I started to feel like i wanna return to DRG again but now i've realised that the Rogue core kill the OG DRG since now i see the channels load got "Meh" I did not remember that. I used to remember seeing "several people are typing"

[inner granite]

RC did not killed DRG

Devs just took a break from it to focus on RC

After everything gets stabilized, we are back to updating DRG (and RC)

[tacit glen]

I mean should they already annouce S6?

[gritty harness]

they said they would work on it once the alpha is out

so by the end of the year if all goes well :)

[manic sleet]

What one says and what one does in the end doesn’t always match. Let’s just see how everything develops

[median sleet]

Why would they announce season 6 when it's at least a year away?

Also they already stated s6 is coming several times

[chrome basin]

My entire friend group stability was relying on one of us getting the beta, needless to say I no longer have friends

[stable chasm]

That's rough, buddy

[civic nest]

Didn't they say about multiple thousands of invites? Why do I only see 7 people online most of the time?

I guess people are just playing DRG

[olive narwhal]

Not everyone that signed up has probably played even then only a small percentage would stick around for more than 2 hours

[tawny relic]

I complete stage one of the gatekeeper boss, but I'm on the next stage and nothing has spawned

am I supposed to do something to start the next stage or is it just a bug?

the second light blue health bar has displayed but there's no enemies

[median sleet]

pick up the orb and throw it in the hole

[tawny relic]

ye did that

nothing happened afterwards

[median sleet]

he should've lost 1/3 of his health bar. You just keep shooting it and another orb will drop

[tawny relic]

shooting what tho?

there's nothing

[median sleet]

Is the gatekeeper gone?

[tawny relic]

ye I killed it, I assumed another would spawn or something

like minibosses

[median sleet]

Mission should end in a few seconds

[tawny relic]

ah I found him

he was stuck at the other end of the map

I was so confused cos he disappeared so I thought I killed it and another would spawn

[median sleet]

nah, you just keep shooting it and do the same thing 2 more times

[blissful mantle]

After playing for about 10 hours, I think my biggest feedback is that I feel like I don't have time to enjoy the builds we built as a team.

[olive hound]

I don't know how this "Team build" would end up or be balance around.
People would prioritize their own build first most of the time, you want to get strong because allies can be unreliable sometimes.
What if the other people playing with you don't want to follow yr strategy? should the whole team be punished?
What if I don't want to follow their strategy? should i/team be punished?

[vapid glacier]

GHOST SHIP!!!! BRING FORTH THE FORTH WAVE OF TESTERS!!!!!!!!!!

[deft bear]

There already was a third one 😛

https://steamcommunity.com/games/2605790/announcements/detail/534352273139042563

[vapid glacier]

Oops sorry I meant forth

[deft bear]

Banished to the boom tick pit 👀

Or whatever the name of those little explodey guys are that I forgot the name of!

[vapid glacier]

Typical pinchie role knowledge………..

Tsk tsk tsk

[steel summit]

Just a question, but what would you guys say is the average length of a complete run?

[old swift]

majority of my runs have been around 40 minutes minimum

but that's going at a pretty standard pace i feel

you can cut down the time by a lot or also increase that by a lot, same as deep dives

the expenite upgrade group-ups can be very time consuming if everyone's trying to force it

[steel summit]

I just saw someone say they felt like they couldn't use their builds enough before it was over, but that's a pretty common length for a Roguelike run. Both dead cells and hades runs are about the same length

[gritty matrix]

each cave has a timer of 10 minutes and one tends to push it to the timer, so it depends on the facility length. and also the boss which ive never really timed

[old swift]

right now i feel like i tend to agree

i don't feel like there's a very large amount of power scaling especially on facility 1

i also don't feel like enemies scale very much

[chrome basin]

Dude how did I miss the roll three times?

[steep cairn]

yeah this is fire confirmed

[compact girder]

Does anyone know how GSG is sending out invites? Is it based on playtime? Is it at random?

[tall plume]

randomly to people who signed up

#rogue-core-chat message

[mossy ruin]

what happened to you?

since when do moderators have RGB lighting?

[compact girder]

ohhh I didn't even realize there was a signup lol

[tall plume]

we've upgraded

[visual latch]

Ohhhh that's so cool what

[native monolith]

DRG finally invested in some better equipment

[median sleet]

The dev colours too

and regulars

[proven solstice]

I lust for the fourth wave to go out. I keep trying other games that are "like" DRG, and surprise, none of them are like DRG.

[tall plume]

if you're itching for a good fast-paced roguelite experience, I definitely recommend trying out Roboquest (it even has a demo)

it's not like DRG or Rogue Core but it's very good on its own right.

[olive hound]

x2 on that Roboquest recommendation

[frank helm]

i hope rogue core plays like balatro but we are the jokers instead

[low tapir]

I think they should drop a new wave soon. i’m pretty sure they sent the third invite within the thousands or something like that. so im assuming gsg’s intention is for thousands to play and test, but from what the data says, only a few dozen are playing at most. in my opinion they should invite tens of thousands if they believe the state of the game is ready

[deft bear]

The testing for the current invite waves have ended, they got enough feedback etc. so are back to working on changing/adding stuff. People can still play if they want though 🙂

They collect feedback for 1-2 weeks when new invite waves go out and from there see where they want to go.

[uncut quartz]

@deft bear do I spy a peeper

[atomic ruin]

wave 4 tomorrow

[crude frost]

No that's second wave.

That post is June 7, i got the Alpha on June 6 and saw that article get made here in this channel iirc.

[pulsar owl]

There's been 3 waves, 4th may come whenever it comes

[lone pecan]

Did anyone noticed that if you replace a weapon with a different one and then used a toolkit on the weapon they replaced it with, it bugs out and gets rid of ur current weapon with ur old one

it is so annoying

[raven wharf]

It’s an alpha. Report the bug and move on.

[lone pecan]

😿

[inner granite]

1... 2... Alyx... 4...

[deft bear]

Mayhaps 👀

[fresh lily]

nah i kill the bugs not report them

[vapid glacier]

I don’t know why but the falconeer looks a bit…off

Is it a woman dwarf?

[carmine zenith]

Jenny get the boomstick

[median sleet]

Yes

[vapid glacier]

That explains it

[median sleet]

I think all the dwarfs have a different face model, not 100% sure tho

might still change since I think some of them look a bit odd

[vapid glacier]

We’ll see once the game gets out or testing has cosmetics

I haven’t seen the other dwarves since they got beards on I think

Falconeer stands out the most and it’s been ingrained in my mind lol

[limpid ledge]

my friend got access today just wondering if more people are going to be getting access

[median sleet]

I don't think they send any invites today, he probably got in like 2 weeks ago

Next playtest more people will probably get access

[limpid ledge]

oh wow we play the normal game evey day dont know how he didnt notice

[glad sonnet]

Will they add more bosses down the line before the launch of ea?

[tall plume]

more bosses are planned, yeah

[glad sonnet]

cool! Thanks!

[uneven oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-spongebob-lonely-sad-raining-gif-5248000

someday i will join the join the company
oh goddang you tenor

[tall plume]

not a tenor issue, most roles here don't have embed perms

[uneven oracle]

dang

[cyan flame]

does rouge core have a release date yet

[tall plume]

check the pinned messages for the roadmap

[steep cairn]

I love the way the slicer looks but the others look a bit off imo

Guardian looks pretty alright but slicer fit is peak

Laser sword looks incredible too

[obtuse dock]

I need intel.
I'm part of the RC Closed Alpha, but I'm not able to play for certain reasons.
How much health do Clamourheads have?
I'm on a multi-page update planner and I need the Clamourhead's info since I'm basing a new creature idea off them.
Also, can anyone provide raster images of the Mission Control and Omega icons?
DM me all answers please.

[slow loom]

Guys, Thursday is waveday. I can feel it in my dwarven rock.

[turbid elbow]

Just a hunch? Have they given any sort of indication when to expect another?

[fiery prairie]

They've said on stream that Alpha 3, and by extension the next wave of invites, they estimate to be around the end of this month/beginning of next month

[olive hound]

Next week maybe maybe

[lunar pawn]

Has gsg talked about their plans for customization in Rouge core

[tall plume]

no specific plans currently

[inner granite]

There will be no customisation, even in your hardware

Your pc will be removed to make everyone equal

[golden plover]

you wont even be given the option to use yuor fingers to play the game, GSG takes those to make an equal playing field for all

[obtuse dock]

Anyone able to help me with this?

[astral dome]

Rogue core wave in exactly 9 days

[median sleet]

on a saturday, 100% gonna happen

[obtuse dock]

What?

[astral dome]

It's a joke

[delicate flax]

gambling

[astral dome]

People try to predict when waves come out

[delicate flax]

i bet on 11

[tall plume]

I'm betting on the 8th July

[raven wharf]

June 31st

[delicate flax]

i can't unfortunately make schizo conversations about rogue core anymore because the game is actually out for alpha testing

[obtuse dock]

I am more hyped for it's release than I was for some of my birthdays as a kid.

The Alpha has incomplete graphics, some glitched models, basic textures and colors, and it's wonderful.

[hollow bear]

Says who

[blissful cape]

I wonder when the next round of testing is

Also how big is the game file if anyone knows?

I’m assuming it’s gonna be around the same as DRG

[tall plume]

pretty much

it's like 3gb

[lapis urchin]

Are all of the people that applied for the rogue core test in?

[lapis urchin]

Nevermind I’ll take that as a no

[old swift]

no

[dry pendant]

this probably has been asked a million times already but what does the blue dashes mean when picking items??

[cold steeple]

Yeah my insider opinion, Falconer solos, best class period

[blissful cape]

What

[lapis urchin]

what

[blissful cape]

Oh, nvm

[stone wigeon]

Mine is 3.66 GBs

Looking forward to the next wave of invites I need more people to do the last level mission with

[blissful cape]

Yeah I hope third times a charm for me, it looks exciting

[vapid glacier]

GHOST SHIP!!!!! BRING FORTH THE FOURTH WAVE OF TESTING!!!

[uneven oracle]

LEMME IN

[uncut folio]

About that…

[deep skiff]

You cooked

[south bronze]

I need rogue core in my life rn

[median yoke]

can u feel my invite too? 😭

[steel summit]

With my luck I'll get in right before release

[glossy heath]

you're lucky, I'm unlikely to get any at all

[fresh lily]

broo

you cook a 5 star meal right there

[mild kiln]

I saw, I watched. I loved. Looking forward to more!

[signal edge]

I know been waiting sense its first trailer

[forest rain]

what enemies so far are returning here? I know of leeches and bulks but any others?

[hollow bear]

Lootbug

[native cradle]

When does Rogue Core get in open Alpha?

[native monolith]

Never

[raven wharf]

it will not have an open alpha, it'll release into early access later this year

[native cradle]

Why not? I would pay for early access to Rogue Core

[raven wharf]

You can, later this year

[native cradle]

Instead we got these dumb "selective" access

[native cradle]

Too long

[raven wharf]

When it releases into early access

Learn some patience then?

[native cradle]

All the fucking YouTubers have it

[raven wharf]

Most were random

[tall plume]

#rogue-core-chat message

[native cradle]

I don't believe it when tourist YouTubers also have it

[raven wharf]

Can’t force you to believe the truth if you don’t want to.

[native cradle]

Tourist Youtubers

People who do a video on DRG and leave

But people with hundreds of hours get left with the eyes in the sun

[signal edge]

ya steam does send invites to random people that requested it, mainly for the goal if a good variety of different type of players

[native monolith]

Playtime has no influence over access

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/boring-unimpressed-meh-really-seriously-gif-16279809

something something pinned messages something

[hollow bear]

Pretend access is just like that overclock you wanted for a long time

[native monolith]

It’s random for a reason: if 10000 people got in, and they all had 300 plus hours, that would result in bias feedback

[native cradle]

So people who don't know lick about DRG have same value in feedback as veterans?

[native monolith]

If it was split between veterans, people new to DRG, and people who had never played, now there’s feedback from various levels of experience and the game can be best for everyone

[native monolith]

Yes

[signal edge]

ya its really those rewards during big events where you put your name in a hat and you could win something steam does the same thing

[tall plume]

yes

[raven wharf]

Yes they do. Their feedback is very valuable.

[native monolith]

Speaking entirely honestly: if I was given access, I would give feedback that would probably not be great for new players, and I’d imagine many other veterans would too

Because we do not know what they want

[hollow bear]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-popcorn-nom-nom-this-is-gonna-be-good-gif-16262875

[native monolith]

And the reverse is true; new players probably wouldn’t for vets

[native cradle]

But new people don't know what they want

[hollow bear]

Devs have to care about new player experience as well

[native cradle]

Like balancing mobility around guy who has 12 hours as scout

[native monolith]

So yeah, it’s best for various levels

Also good not to gatekeep access behind playtime…

[signal edge]

im not so sure on that one, if new players don't know what they want then how will they ever find a game they do want?

[mossy ruin]

what if the person in question with 0 hours in drg has 300 hours in risk of rain and 100 hours in roboquest, then what?

[native monolith]

I don’t think I gained brain cells between having 1 hour and 300

My opinions changed

[native cradle]

Still 0 hours in DRG

[mossy ruin]

and?

RC is not drg

it's much closer to the two games I mentioned

[signal edge]

ya reason the devs split them apart

[native monolith]

RC is not drg 2

[hollow bear]

Yeah drg is dead

[native monolith]

It’s fairly close currently, but that’s just because they started with the drg base. It’s an alpha

[raven wharf]

Damn, 1000+ hours wasted...

[native monolith]

Season 6 canceled

[native monolith]

What is the real DRG is the rocks we stoned along the way?

[signal edge]

darn only 4 achievements left too sucks

[native monolith]

Hey, same!

All I have left are the promotions

[tall plume]

It's very important got feedback both from DRG players and from people who never touched DRG - or barely did. Both are valuable.

Rogue Core is not an expension. It's a fully fleshed game and it needs to stand on its own two legs.
What DRG does and what Rogue Core do are two different things. They share some DNA but they're different games.

It's like saying Risk of Rain 1 and Risk of Rain 2 are similar games: They are but they play wildly differently. And what was true in the first game wasn't necessarily true in the second.
Veteran players come in with their own set of bias and expectations that new players do not have. They take some things as evident/clear/granted but that does not mean those bias are true.

[native cradle]

Then how do I get access to the alpha without waiting half a year?

[raven wharf]

apply on steam, it's a lottery

[tall plume]

you sign up on steam and hope you get lucky

[native monolith]

Go pick a 57 leaf clover

[tall plume]

like everyone else

[signal edge]

prey to the Gods of steam

[raven wharf]

either way when it releases on early access the playtest will be shut down

[native monolith]

Oh Gabe Newell, bless me on this rocky day

[native cradle]

Knowing my luck

I get banned for life from lotteries

[hollow bear]

Early access is later this year, it'll be here before we know it

[native cradle]

Still too slow

Super Giant Games already does open alpha for their Rogue Like

[hollow bear]

Get gatekept by father time then

[native cradle]

Fuck Chronos

[tall plume]

Hades 2 has been in development for at least 2 years before its early access last year. They didn't do any public alpha.

[native monolith]

I got hades 2 the day it released and it already had as much content as hades 1

[median sleet]

youtubers tend to have a lot of friends on steam. A bunch of youtubers probably got in through the friend invite feature from the first wave

[native cradle]

Even a fucking Vtuber

Someone who has to be a tourist or their career will bog down

I won't drop any names in order not to shame them but most videos on Rogue Core are done by tourists

[median sleet]

does it matter?

[native cradle]

One and done, never to be seen again

[native cradle]

It matters, real fans are denied entry but tourists get it on a silver plater and waste it

A vtuber comes, streams for 2 hours and then never opens Rogue Core again

[median sleet]

they didn't get in on a silver platter, they got randomly chosen/ invited by a friend that had a +1

[native cradle]

Is it really worth the free advertisement?

I still dont think its a real lottery

Too many youtubers flaunt it

[raven wharf]

pinned messages

[native cradle]

I read that

[raven wharf]

evidently you need to read it again

[native cradle]

Point 3, they admit to handing keys to Youtubers they deem active

[median sleet]

well some youtubers got invites from devs. But I don't see how that's an issue at all, it's not like those invites were taken from the lottery system.

[visual latch]

Why is the issue specifically with vtubers?

[raven wharf]

active within the community specifically

[native cradle]

Vtubers are tourists by nature

Have you heard of a Vtuber that plays only and only a handful of games?

[hollow bear]

Who cares though

If they got in they got in.

[raven wharf]

You're bitching about someone playing the game, presumably with a +1 key, and not playing the game again. What about all the hundreds of other people that got access and just touched RC once and not again? Who cares.

[native cradle]

I care because I dont have a damn key

[raven wharf]

tough

[hollow bear]

Apply harder

[native cradle]

Knowing my luck, I would have to apply until 2040

[median sleet]

ok, that's how a lottery works

[tall plume]

Yeah, I think we got that part, don't worry.

That doesn't mean you're entitled to a key just because you're throwing a tantrum though.

[native cradle]

I wont ever win a key until the game opens to the public

[hollow bear]

In 2040 you'll be mad about not getting a drg 3 key

[raven wharf]

and? That's probably the case with tens of thousands of other people too

[median sleet]

yeah that's how the system works

[native cradle]

And I am not asking an E-Girl again for a key

[median sleet]

'I can't play this game until it releases'

[signal edge]

But you got other games to play while waiting correct? More so with a summer sale around the corner

[tall plume]

what ?

[signal edge]

Wait hold on

[hollow bear]

https://tenor.com/view/l-killer-bean-gif-16629089601247837920

[stable chasm]

The alpha isn't primarily for people to get to enjoy the game early, it's for the devs to gather feedback, and they know how many people to invite to get the amount of feedback they need. It doesn't matter if you're a "real fan" or not. In fact, feedback from people that aren't already sold to the idea is just as if not more important.

[signal edge]

Ya more so with the game extremely likely to have alot of changes, and unexpected crashes

[native cradle]

Why not sell the game as it is and slap an alpha label on it?

I seen the gameplay and looks playable

[raven wharf]

playable does not mean it's ready to be sold

[median sleet]

Oh, so you're the reason companies keep releasing unfinished, buggy messes

[native cradle]

I mean I would be ready to pay for Rogue Core this instant

[tall plume]

Then you're just doing yourself a huge disservice, and all of that because you can't wait.

[native cradle]

Would you wait that long? Who knows when Rogue Core actually comes to the public

[tall plume]

Yes, I would.

[native cradle]

Can be 2027 for all we know, Season 6 got delayed

[median sleet]

we do know when

q4

[tall plume]

And we know when it comes to the public because it's already been said to you and it is also in the pinned messages.

[native cradle]

Delays can be sudden

[tall plume]

and if it's getting delayed, then be it

I prefer my games to be playable instead of a buggy mess.

[native cradle]

Cyberpunk got delayed 4 times and still messed up

Just release Rogue Core and fix it from there

[native monolith]

You try fixing a game when 500,000 people are telling you how to do it

[tall plume]

they should have delayed it more 'til it was ready. That's what you get when you cave to the external pressure pushing you to release before it's ready.

[native cradle]

Hmm, interesting how it lines up with a Christmas Release

[median sleet]

You have got to be trolling

[native cradle]

Every mention ever of a Q4 release is always in December

Without fault

[native monolith]

I don’t think GSG cares

[modest condor]

Sometimes a Q4 release is delayed to become a Q1 (year after) release :^)

[native monolith]

They do stuff when they want to

[modest condor]

I'd rather have them take time and make their game good than to just plop it out now unfinished

Alpha testing obviously is fine and good

[native monolith]

Even when they do early access, it’s still that

Early access

[modest condor]

true

[native cradle]

I will never get to play this

And I was willing to fork over cash to test it

Instead people undeserving get to play it for 5 minutes and forget about it

[hollow bear]

Gsg allowing anyone to try it was the right choice, and their choice.

[native cradle]

A better choice is to put it on sale as early as possible

[hollow bear]

https://tenor.com/view/buzzer-incorrect-gif-27472205

[native cradle]

Instead some fucking youtubers get to play the game and make views off it

76K views and they arent the official GSG page

[hollow bear]

Getting feedback from all different walks of players is to Ghostship's advantage

Hate it all you want, but it'll be a better game because of that when you do get to play it

[modest condor]

• the gameplay shown by streamers/youtubers is basically free advertisement for them, too, which will help sell the game when it comes out

[native cradle]

Which will be never. Who knows they will make it to 2026?

I dont

[hollow bear]

You're just being impatient 🤷‍♂️

It's a handful of months away until early access

[native cradle]

More like 6

[hollow bear]

You will never be happy

[native cradle]

I want early access tomorrow

[hollow bear]

And I want a big worm boss in drg

[gritty harness]

I want a burger

[hollow bear]

But neither of us are getting that

[modest condor]

And I want a real life Blackout Stout, not getting it :(

[native cradle]

Also while at it, Season 5 faction got copy pasted into RC

[mossy ruin]

🍿

[hollow bear]

Pounce, I believe it is time.

[modest condor]

Okay now he's just trolling, stop feeding

[gritty harness]

mix rubbing alcool with Vodka (please dont)

[native cradle]

I am done

[olive hound]

Good

[native cradle]

Clearly we cant agree

[olive hound]

Have a nice day

[tall plume]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out

[median sleet]

I am 100% they were trolling

[proven current]

i mean, the whole season is called a PREQUEL and an INTRO to rogue core

[raven wharf]

I mean I did just get a burger so who's really winning here?

[stable chasm]

They kinda just made the case for why they shoudn't be in the alpha, funnily enough

[proven current]

holly yapper, i just read the entire conversation of that salty fella

roughly 3 hours just being mad about not getting in the alpha

[raven wharf]

Eh it's just another case of entitlement. Nothing special.

[hollow bear]

He's got a point. I've got five times his playtime in drg so Mike owes me four more spots

[proven current]

i mean, i got nearly 2k hours in other popular roguelikes so...

wheres my spot????

[signal edge]

Lol if thats the case does my 5k hours in one rogue like count?

[proven current]

based on that previous argument, you should have like 5 slots for you and your friends lmao

[signal edge]

Lol

[balmy roost]

any idea if rogue core will have glacial strata and hollow bough

[raven wharf]

I don't see a reason why it wouldn't.

[uncut folio]

lol I guess

I didn’t get randomly selected by the RNG, most of my friends didn’t, but one did on the first wave and that’s how it happened

Uncle Dane also wants in, he hasn’t been so lucky so far

[sweet bloom]

I migth be stupid but i thought i saw an announcement somewhere about the four'th wave of invates and i would just like to check becouse i cant find it again anywhere and i think i migth have just dreamed it up

[proven current]

just being salty about having bad rng, dont pay attention to him. Good intro on that rc video tho

[proven current]

prolly a dream, but it is a rumour that it might happen between by the end of this month or by the firsts days of july