rogue-core-chat

[pearl tinsel]

We don't really know what the main threat is yet

[old swift]

i'm very curious to see how the combat is and what the enemies are

[broken flame]

E l v e s

[pearl tinsel]

presumably there's going to be many enemeies from drg

[old swift]

if it was planned as a gamemode i feel the enemies will be the same, but now that it's a standalone game idk

[icy vapor]

Same as DRG: gravity.

[slender oriole]

Fr

[pearl tinsel]

Impossible, they removed the scout

[loud garden]

okay so, rogue core, its may or may not probably takes place in the future, likely that us, dwarfs (in DRG S4) went even deeper and found these so called exponites
the company had big plans for them and something happened, because we already ravaging for resources, its no stranger that the wildlife is gonna fight back, well if that were to be true....

[slender oriole]

Everyone gets Special Powder now

[old swift]

the caves seem more compact than drg

[pearl tinsel]

There's no indication of that yet

[old swift]

did they say more about gameplay on stream? like how you get weapons?

[pearl tinsel]

Only thing we do know is more actual structures found in the mines

[old swift]

i like that part

[loud garden]

i mean its going to the core obviously, the only thing is
the planet is very much a living organism from inside and outside
we didnt expect it to actually need to fight back the actual planet

[old swift]

kinda wish drg had more of that

[loud garden]

if theres something that made the deep cave bases gone dark, then something thats even more dangerous than a dreadnought could be in there

i might even think theres an even stronger dreadnought

[slender oriole]

Isn't there supposedly an eye on the outside of the planet that you can see on one of the loading screens

[loud garden]

i mean there is
but i scoffed it as a "a planet getting hit by a moon"

[slender oriole]

I hope

Gimme some weird lookin aliens

Please

Like weirder than Trawlers and Wall-Eyes

[pearl tinsel]

What?

[old swift]

it seems like the game will rely on darkness and lighting much more, especially since no equipment

[faint aspen]

Finally, we get to see a fully matured Dreadnought, least I'd hope so

Nice, slowmode's finally off

[surreal moat]

Just give me some creepy music to go along with the atmosphere.

[pearl tinsel]

DRG was originally supposed to be more like that

[void musk]

they shouldnt expect to be pandered to continually. you dont have to play every game for an infinite amount of time

[pearl tinsel]

Since flares used to be limited and such

[slender oriole]

Truee

[faint aspen]

Hell the bosses at the end of each run being a fully grown Dreadnought would be really cool, and fitting with the high stakes scenario of Rogue Core

And unlike the Karl idea actually logical for the whole multiple runs thing.

[pearl tinsel]

Season content hasn't actually been very great at retaining people at all tbh. Both rockpox and rivals got old very quickly. People only really cared about the new weapons

[old swift]

they should instead be complaining about rockpox and its poor implementation rather than "why content delay"

[slender oriole]

I like Rivals n Rockpox. Rivals are MUCH more thought out and better executed

[pearl tinsel]

So I don't see what difference it will really make in the long run to not have a new season for a while

[old swift]

maintenance updates are sorely needed, and hopefully will address more than bugs introduced with the newest content added

[faint aspen]

I love the Rivals imo, not too hard but also different enough to shake up the pace from regular bugs

Rockpox however I can agree with it's just normal bugs with a new status effect and harder to kill.

But hey, least there isn't a whole mission centered around killing like 3 Harolds or something entirely rock-pox centric

[pearl tinsel]

Honestly in general the idea of seasons seems like mostly a bust to me. The pace has completely stopped after 4 and the content was shallow to begin with. They should've focused more on core content. Season 1 at least added a whole new mission type to the game that has become a permanent part of the game, even with its own unique enemies

[robust orbit]

Idk I never liked the rockpox much really it’s kinda lame

[pearl tinsel]

I get the feeling infected biomes isn't going to go away, at least for the purpose of consistent rockpox mission spawns

[void musk]

Pretty much my thoughts

I would argue adding rockpox in to the regular mission rotation would just actively hurt the game, as well

Once the season ends

[robust orbit]

It would

[pearl tinsel]

Devs should have really just kept adding overclocks if they wanted to keep people happy. Not these season events that disappear after a year

[void musk]

I actually called it in season 3, that robots were actually less tiresome and this stuff would get old fast

[faint aspen]

Maybe if they made Rock-Pox much easier to kill with more weapons, like AoE damage affecting blisters first of all, then it'd greatly mitigate the rock-pox fatigue

[void musk]

If they spent a whole year developing a set of weapons or overclocks/meaningful balance changes everyone would be much happier than a bland seasonal update with a ton of cosmetics

[pearl tinsel]

I think rivals actually had a good thing going with its season content. Now it's all rare as fuck and I kind of miss the change of pace of rival caves

[void musk]

I miss the rival comms router. its so dang rare now

[pearl tinsel]

Sabotage also can't spawn nemesis for some reason

[void musk]

IMO the best mini-event

Ive had a handful of prospectors but comms router is super rare

[pearl tinsel]

This might sound weird but prospector was always my favorite. It was simple and gave a fun challenge that didn't distract from your main objective much since you just had to shoot at it

[void musk]

Bot complaints were mostly because of the prevalence of fire builds, but even then theres plenty of weaps that do well without fire

[pearl tinsel]

Data deposits required a lot of setup which made them boring after a short while

Patrol bots are also a lot easier to deal with these days, pretty much for all builds

[old swift]

comms router would be better if it had any difficulty, on like, the difficulter difficulties

[void musk]

DIdnt it used to have a lot more bug spawns but they nerfed it?

[pearl tinsel]

Yeah they gutted the hell out of it

[void musk]

Classic GSG response

[pearl tinsel]

Season 4 has had the issue of like, its main threat only really being in the "main mission"

[old swift]

made the whole event slower, ~2x longer time

[void musk]

lets have our game only be challenging like, .1% of the time!

[pearl tinsel]

Meteor events are only rockpox related because they drop the plaguehearts

Every season event for rivals had rival enemies

People were complaining about router a lot at first tbf, and it was really hard to do solo

[void musk]

I do think the amount of season related missions we get shoved in our face is tiresome, but I also hate to see stuff like certain bot events fade away into the abyss

[pearl tinsel]

Could be solved by making rival caves spawn them more often

Both the cave mutator and sabotage

[tawdry hawk]

I wonder if the rivals will have Rival Scavengers or RiScavs in the rogue core stealing from the ruined mines (also this is my youtube comment but i thought it would be better to talk about it here)

[void musk]

Yeah rival warning is jank dude

Like just make it a collection of events and not this same thing every dang time

[pearl tinsel]

Sabo also should be able to spawn nemmy somehow

I feel like the turret controller was supposed to originally be a season event but they just put it into the mutator to make turrets spawn there

[void musk]

I just hope that working on this new game is good for them and gets them excited again

Hoping for a solid spinoff

[pearl tinsel]

Yeah Im more interested in rogue core at this point

Maybe season 5 will address many of the issues pertaining to rockpox and rivals but I'm not expecting it to

[void musk]

Yep. I cant relate to anyone who has complained about the season delay as I had no hope for it anyway. 1300 hours in and I've done literally everything.

[tawdry hawk]

Yeah i wish it would show up more

[void musk]

Build variety sucks, mod trees need work, perks need reworking

[old swift]

way more interested in rogue core than another season with temporary content

[pearl tinsel]

Right

Wish they would just stop doing seasons

It clearly hasn't worked at all

[void musk]

Sure, its fun to play every now and then, but its well past the point of being a "main" game for me

And thats fine, being able to play over 1k hours is super solid and its a good game

[void musk]

Strange considering how they claim to still be listening to the community, yet seem deaf for the last 1-2 years

And dont want to rush content or make something they dont enjoy

[pearl tinsel]

I think that's the problem that they've even pointed out that communication has taken a hit because of the season style content

[void musk]

I mean they arent exactly crunching these seasons out, so I dont even see the big issue there either

[pearl tinsel]

It's also just actively prevented them from making major updates focused on particular systems because they have to keep doing new seasons with new season content

[void musk]

They give themselves more time between major updates than most games and have less than half the content and quality with seasons

[pearl tinsel]

Eh

There's a lot of content in the new seasons, it's just not content that nets much increase in longevity

[void musk]

Its a bunch of frontpage content is the best way I can think to describe it at the moment

Looks good as a headline but doesnt last

[pearl tinsel]

Besides the piles of new cosmetics, new events and factions like rivals and rockpox take a lot of effort to implement but don't retain players much at all since it's all mostly side content

Nothing being added to the core experience past season 1 and 2

Well and 3 with grenades

[void musk]

Spend that same time reworking existing systems that need work, or adding missions, biomes, weapons, etc and people will be able to play much longer

[pearl tinsel]

Right

[void musk]

Just no point in adding this shallow stuff. Reminds me of No Mans Sky

[shy cedar]

Harold

[pearl tinsel]

Why tf do you keep saying harold

[void musk]

Positive community in NMS that stays ignorant to how bad the game actually still is

Shallow content

[shy cedar]

👍

[void musk]

Except DRG is still a good base game

[pearl tinsel]

The things people actually want are new guns to shoot

Which is a lot of effort

Which is why overclocks exist

[shy cedar]

I’d settle for Harold 2

[pearl tinsel]

But they've yet to ever actually add any new coverclocks

[void musk]

Yea idk just make more overclocks actually viable or at LEAST interesting picks to have fun with without feeling like you are shooting yourself in the foot.

[pearl tinsel]

The most they've done so far is overhaul a few like double barrel

[void musk]

Double barrel is like the best recent change theyve done

Convert a trash tier useless OC to something at least fun and take-able

Boom, more build variety

[pearl tinsel]

Right, people were more excited about the overclock changes than the actual season content

[shy cedar]

Harold

[void musk]

Its in my main rotation now, AISE and double barrel scout

Super fun

[pearl tinsel]

I think it just boils down to the lack of focus on core gameplay

Their core gameplay loop is their bread and butter, they should be building onto that

Which is why the septric spreader and stingtail were also really good additions

[void musk]

I do like them. The added difficulty is welcome

[pearl tinsel]

Right, and more gameplay variety across the board

[void musk]

I wanna see them take a look at certain weaker weapons and see how they can be brought up to snuff as well

Looking at autocannon, stubby

Sure, theyre useable. But they aint no minigun, or warthog

And give lok1 more than TWO viable builds

Or two good builds

Make breach cutter mods and OC picks actually interesting

[pearl tinsel]

Disagree on loki, those two are just op, the rest are on par with anything on warthog or stubby

Base lok is still a monster at single target dps and accuracy

[void musk]

Its fine, but given that you own executioner you'll probably take it

For that purpose

[pearl tinsel]

Well that's the problem

[shy cedar]

Harold

[pearl tinsel]

They're too strong compared to everything else

[void musk]

Well mod tree is not that interesting for a literal smart rifle either

And other OC's leave something to be desired

[pearl tinsel]

Maybe, its base damage needs buffed so the ammo mod is actually worthwhile

There's less general issues with its mod choices than on warthog though

[void musk]

ECR is strong by default since engy lacks a super strong AOE focused primary

Warthog turret whip exists, turret discharge exists, but wont beat the direct crowd clear of ECR

[pearl tinsel]

Most mods could reasonably be picked, besides smrt and ammo being kinda shitty in general

[pearl tinsel]

EM refire gets pretty close imo

[void musk]

If stubby electric DOT got buffed a bit and the base stats tweaked some it'd be good

[pearl tinsel]

It's just a dps monster in general and coupled with its electricity it can do pretty well

Yeah the electricty should be changed to the same as on the scout primaries

[void musk]

stubby electric dot tends to feel like tickling stuff compared to scout

[pearl tinsel]

They all use the same strong electric debuff

[void musk]

which i mean, fast weapon makes sense it wont have the DOT of electric focus shot

but still

electrifying reload exists

[pearl tinsel]

Right

[void musk]

and its dot is insane

why not give stubby at least half that

[pearl tinsel]

Stubby is also supposed to be the electricity gun

[void musk]

feels like it has maybe a 1/4 the power of it

[pearl tinsel]

Drak even has that same stronger debuff now

[void musk]

ah man, so many little mechanics and things that i can see being fleshed out but never will be

in favor of bland content

[toxic badger]

Elecrtic reload..?

I thought it only gets applied for like a few seconds

[void musk]

electrifying reload GK2 got buffed a bit back

season 3 or something idk

[toxic badger]

It's def very strong initial dmg wise but it's dot I don't recall being amazing

Yeah ik I use it often

[void musk]

one bullet one taps a grunt at full 4 person haz 5

spray a crowd of grunts, reload, forget about them

[toxic badger]

I think that still isn't quite the dot being amazing I think the initial dmg of it being really fun and satisfying

[void musk]

i dont find the damage buff of the reload that amazing

just the dot applying for a long time

[toxic badger]

I'm talking about the electricity

Since unlike the Crossbow and Stubby that rely on the dot of elecetic dmg being applied every couple ticks

[void musk]

yeah one bullet will kill a grunt without needing to reapply electric

it lasts 6 sec

according to wiki

[toxic badger]

I think like 80% of that dmg is a burst of electricity once the reload triggers it

[pearl tinsel]

No

[void musk]

it sort of has an "explosive reload" effect to it depending on the amount of bullets fired but its actually very small

[pearl tinsel]

Iirc that's only like 2 extra damage per bullet in the enemy when you reload

[toxic badger]

Oh nope nvm

[pearl tinsel]

Definitely nowhere near 80% of the damage

[void musk]

yea the DOT will outdamage that in mere seconds

[toxic badger]

It is just dot and not even strong dot it's just cuz like explosive reload it's like special and applied inside the bug so armor doesn't matter as much

[void musk]

nice for activating mag shafts trifork too

[toxic badger]

Tho the wiki I'm reading could def be outdated and the dot is higher now

[void musk]

theres no telling haha

[pearl tinsel]

Get off fandom

[void musk]

it got buffed like, this year

[toxic badger]

But I'm pretty sure it's like impeded detinators and applied from the inside

[toxic badger]

I also like making mods and looking inside the games files

[void musk]

it is, just much weaker

[toxic badger]

You learn a bunch of cool stuff that way lol

[pearl tinsel]

There's an ed effect yes but that's separate from the dot. It's very weak and presumably just so there's at least some benefit to hitting an enemy more than once. Otherwise the dot is exactly the same as efs and draks electric mod

[toxic badger]

Oh ok so I was spot on the first guess once the reload triggers it there's a lil burst of elecetic dmg as well as the usual electric affect dealing a big of dot for qol purposes

That's pretty cool

[pearl tinsel]

I just think stubby should be upgraded to have that dot since it would give it a better identity as the electric gun

[tidal bison]

the rogue core game looks cool but will it tie in with canon drg?

[toxic badger]

Earlier a dev said yes

[tidal bison]

or is it a spinoff

oh i hate that

noooooo

[toxic badger]

It's a spin off

[tidal bison]

oh okay good

[toxic badger]

Drg isn't being replaced

[tidal bison]

well i know

do you know how it relates to canon

[toxic badger]

But the 2 are like the same universe you're just a different kind of dwarf

You're a "reclaimer" dwarf

Which maybe means expendable..? Since it's a rogue lite they uh aren't ever coming home lol

[tidal bison]

i have an amazing idea

yeah

i have a good idea

[void musk]

Supposed to be that rogue core features a more "elite" set of characters than the average dwarf

[toxic badger]

Oh?

[tidal bison]

well yeah but its like

they theoretically cant really coexist

if hoxxes is lost then

unless its like

sites are lost and you need to reclaim them

[void musk]

Season theme is also rogue core based

[tidal bison]

which can tie the two games together in a system that allows the rogue core players to unlock missions for drg players by locking missions with them saying LOST and once a rogue core mission finishes

it unlocks

for drg players

i think itll be really hard to implement

[void musk]

Iirc they said season 5 was like, a rogue core lore prequel?

[tidal bison]

oh i guess lost it to rockpox makes sense

[void musk]

A shame considering how much of it was destroyed for the past YEAR

[old swift]

some cross progression would be cool, even if minimal like cosmetics

[toxic badger]

Its gonna co exist according to a dev here

Which is cool lore wise

[tidal bison]

but im confused

is all of hoxxes lost? or just certain parts?

[old swift]

the core, specifically

[tidal bison]

if all of isnt lost, this is viable

ohhhh

makes sense

[old swift]

hence rogue core

[toxic badger]

The core is like deeper than deep dives

[tidal bison]

hmmmm

[toxic badger]

The center of hoaxes I guess..? The caves look super rigged and spikey so I'm guessing it's deeper

[tidal bison]

yeha

i mean

near the core or in the core

[broken flame]

Rogue Core is basically just a Magma Core but full of murderhobos with no backstory

[toxic badger]

I've always wanted to explore abandoned ships and structures so I'm gonna love that

[tidal bison]

ohh i see

so

essentially

[toxic badger]

The trailer literally gives the backstory but ok

[tidal bison]

what happened is that the covert mining missions went dark not the surface missions

mk makes sense

[pearl tinsel]

Basically

[toxic badger]

Yeah just a different branch of dwarves Co existing

[tidal bison]

hope its as good as drg

but if im being completley honest

i dont know why it has to be a seperate game

just a dlc would be fine

[toxic badger]

Looks amazing from what I've seen but wish it was part of the base game

[pearl tinsel]

The dwarves definitely aren't considered expendable in rogue core since it says the ramrod only has a crew of 4

[tidal bison]

exactly

its basically a loophole to get around the "our dlcs dont lock content!"

[toxic badger]

They said so they could give it its own balancing and cuz they want to add a lot to it. Some being the structures, gaves and perk system like any good rogue lite

[tidal bison]

but in this case i say its justified

[broken flame]

Not quite what I meant but that's okay, a dnd joke was gonna be hit or miss here

[tidal bison]

i hope you can switch between them in the actual game

[toxic badger]

Ah ok yeah idk shit about dnd even if I play it

[tidal bison]

in drg you switch to rogue core

[pearl tinsel]

If it was just an expansion that kinda bogs it down since it would have to tie into DRG's limitations and systems directly

[tidal bison]

in synthetik they did that

[toxic badger]

Head empty so my friends do all the thinking parts

[tidal bison]

if not the game might just die after a couple weeks

[toxic badger]

It shouldn't since the small glances are already a lot of content

[tidal bison]

unless it has MORE incentive to prestieging or something

[pearl tinsel]

It's a spinoff, and it's going to do its own thing. I prefer that honestly

[tidal bison]

yeah

[old swift]

i do feel like it might split the playerbase if it's actually good

[toxic badger]

Which they really should have elaborated more on

[old swift]

with it being so similar in many ways

[tidal bison]

most likley what will happen is that when the people take breaks from drg theyre gonna play rogue core

[pearl tinsel]

Idk what you're saying tbh

[vocal jasper]

first thing i thought

[toxic badger]

A lot of us are hoping playing it will gran like cosmetics or other cool things so the 2 are like in sync

[vocal jasper]

def would

[void musk]

Just so happens I like co op, I like roguelite and I like DRG

So count me in I guess.

[toxic badger]

All the coolest info I got was from this discord rather than the stream. I'm sure ppl would be more excited if they explained it a bit more in detail

[pearl tinsel]

Rogue core isn't the same kind of game as drg though. It's going to be a roguelite. Thats way different from drg which is just a basic horde coop shooter

[nimble quail]

wait is it new game or

[pearl tinsel]

There was a post by the devs with screenshots and such. You should go read that

[old swift]

a lot of the same stuff, though

[toxic badger]

Getting my info from the devs talking in general during the stream

[old swift]

co-op, fps, procedural caves

[pearl tinsel]

Maybe but the gameplay loop will be fundamentally different

[void musk]

I see so many trashing the roguelite genre calling it unoriginal or a copy paste game, etc. I don't get that line of thinking at all. When's the last time a whole new game genre got made??

[old swift]

there will apparently be more team focused building too which sounds very nice

[pearl tinsel]

It seems more like gtfo to me

[toxic badger]

And that announcement doesn't have the info I'm referring to. The thing that excites me the most is s5 being the themed towards rogue core and the 2 supposed to be linked lore wise and it wasn't mentioned on stream or on that announcement

[pearl tinsel]

It was mentioned in the roadmap

[toxic badger]

The s5 theme?

[void musk]

I think it was mentioned on stream too

That s5 would tie in

[tidal bison]

hope theres cross-progression

[toxic badger]

Dawm then I missed a chunk

[pearl tinsel]

There won't be

[toxic badger]

Was on airport wifi

[pearl tinsel]

Like

[toxic badger]

I hope so

[void musk]

I don't think there can be. We're not the same dwarves or even the same company(?) In rogue core

[pearl tinsel]

You're starting with a pistol each run in rogue core, there's no way for any of that to correlate to drg at all

[pearl tinsel]

Same company, different department

[void musk]

It's finally time for the subata to shine

[tidal bison]

cosmetics

[toxic badger]

Maybe a dlc with the rogue core outfits/gadgets?

[tidal bison]

uniforms cross over

atleast

[void musk]

Or whatever they rename the pistol

[tidal bison]

honestly i feel like this game was revealed a bit too early

[pearl tinsel]

It's a different pistol

[void musk]

Meh, cosmetics are overrated hard by the community. Hot take I know

[tidal bison]

shoulda announced it beginning of 2024

people are pissed about s4 being bad

[old swift]

they said it was revealed "too" early

[pearl tinsel]

It had no mag counter so it's probably energy based or something

[old swift]

but they thought it'd be better to reveal it now

[tidal bison]

now they are gonna be mad its gonna be another couple months before s5

[pearl tinsel]

I think they needed to show off why season 5 was being delayed for so long

[toxic badger]

I half agree. I love their cosmetics but I know that a lot of the paint jobs aren't gonna be used much

[old swift]

Why are you announcing Rogue Core now?
It would be normal practice to wait until we have something more polished to show, to build more attention and hype right away. But we like to start small, and we really want to rekindle that open development feeling again - that means announcing now, in this pre-alpha state, without not so much to show yet.

[tidal bison]

ehhhh

hype burns out quick

thats the problem

[void musk]

The cosmetics are generally good, but I wont barely see them on myself.

[pearl tinsel]

They're not trying to build "hype"

[toxic badger]

Prob so they can have open beta testing

[median mesa]

Guys they announced DRG 2 years prior to the EA

[pearl tinsel]

They've been doing that for 4 seasons and it's done fuck all

[unkempt lance]

well it explained the somewhat lacking updates

[toxic badger]

Fair enough I've been playing as a kobold on drg for a few months now

[tidal bison]

they shouldve atleast tried for s4 i feel like

[old swift]

why are you crying goboer

[spark jasper]

things happening

all the time

[toxic badger]

The grungler was summoned

10/10 name

[tidal bison]

nah

[spark jasper]

it's grungling time

[toxic badger]

Sounds some sort of creature

[tidal bison]

they announced it early

as a crutch for bad updates

which is fine but honestly

[toxic badger]

We should have a fast moving lil critter called the grungler that only exists for comedy

[spark jasper]

Holy fuck

We should

[pearl tinsel]

So you'd rather they just not say why season 5 would take a year to come out?

[toxic badger]

Maybe like related to a loot bug but evolved to skidadle away from you

[spark jasper]

speedy

[pearl tinsel]

I mean the first early access build will be in late 2024, we're already in late 2023, announcing a game like a year before it will be available ain't that weird

[void musk]

Im conflicted on hopping on rogue core during early access and not getting the full game experience, but also early access drg was an absolute treat so I feel inclined to do it again.

[spark jasper]

yeah, I gotta say I don't entirely believe that the reason for season 4 being lacklustre was rogue core

[pearl tinsel]

You can believe whatever you want

[median mesa]

"We started our Open Development journey on Deep Rock Galactic two full years before we even launched into Early Access, and by now we feel very experienced with the process. The engagement we established with our community during and after that time has simply been awesome." Y'all gotta read on why its announced so early

[toxic badger]

If it helps the hype rogue core was gonna be an expansion for drg so that's a lot of content lol

[tidal bison]

its a coverup for s5 taking long

thats fine to do but i just dont feel like 2 seperate games are that great of an idea

[pearl tinsel]

It's not a "coverup", it's just the actual reason

[tidal bison]

not really

[void musk]

Less of a coverup and more.. the actual reason

[tidal bison]

you can see that updates are lacking as of recent

not a coverup

bad wording

but like

[old swift]

it was probably on the backburner for a while

[tidal bison]

yes

[pearl tinsel]

It's almost like something else has been taking up lots of their time

[toxic badger]

The delay is cuz they are converting it from a regular update/expansion to a new seperate game so they can give us more content

[old swift]

i mean, they said it was being tested as a drg gamemode so

[tidal bison]

as a drg gamemode it would be great

seperate game not so much

[broken flame]

Deep Rock galactic beta was definitely interesting. I remember when egg hunt was added

[tidal bison]

but theyre the devs

[old swift]

except they said it wouldn't be great

[tidal bison]

why not

[toxic badger]

It's still a drg game mode just now a seperate game so it can get more good content

[pearl tinsel]

The scale would be much smaller and less interesting as a basic game mode

[old swift]

limited by the game's other systems

[tidal bison]

i hope drg is gonna get a launcher

so i can open one game from one menu

[old swift]

yes i want more third party launchers

[void musk]

See I completely disagree with everyone else on this, how in the world do you think this game works better as an addon to DRG and not it's own thing

[old swift]

i hecking love launchers

[toxic badger]

Oh hell no

[pearl tinsel]

It's called steam library

[old swift]

where is the ghost ship games launcher

[tidal bison]

bro

look at something like synthetik

[void musk]

It probably won't cost much more than it would have as an expansion, and they get so much more freedom. Who cares it's not a dlc?

[inland palm]

i don’t see how it wud be great in drg considering how bloated the code probably is at this point and the fact it wud completely ignore all the normal upgrades and perks

[tidal bison]

you can switch from game to game from the same game

[toxic badger]

I start my pc to steam, epic games, battle net no more launchers TwT

[tidal bison]

good point

i dont mean launchers like paradox launchers

i mean like

[median mesa]

Since the inception of Deep Rock Galactic seven years ago, we have had the feeling that the core gameplay would work just as well with the roguelike/lite formula. So we started a prototype project as a new gamemode inside DRG." Somewhere in the ballpark of a 7 year backburner

[tidal bison]

you press on a button in one game you go into the other

[raven steppe]

As a game dev aficionado... It's a terrible idea to squeeze 2 games into 1 project

[tidal bison]

it forcecloses the app and opens the other application

that would be cool to see

[toxic badger]

Ohhh

[pearl tinsel]

At least the confirmation of new weapons in rogue core might also mean we get some or most of them in DRG itself

[tidal bison]

from the startup menu or the space rig or something

[toxic badger]

Idk I feel like I could do that in a few clicks of a mouse

[tidal bison]

main menu

[raven steppe]

You can reuse stuff, but having 2 parallel and unconnected games isn't ideal

[tidal bison]

yeah but it gets tedious

[void musk]

Yeah maybe a s5 or s6 thing

[median mesa]

Current DRG owners will get a discount on DRG:RC

[inland palm]

Ppl like to think they know better then the devs who are actually programming the game and know how to actually weigh these kinds of decisions. They even gave pretty good reasons for why it’s a seperate game on stream and still ppl somehow disagree

[tidal bison]

people can have opinions tho

[pearl tinsel]

Don't see why they're not allowed to make spinoffs and sequels

[tidal bison]

splits the community

i can see that

[raven steppe]

No I mean, inside one file

[void musk]

Nobody really cares about this

[tidal bison]

but its not a big of a deal

[inland palm]

Sure, but it’s a pretty bad one. Like i can believe that a dating sim wud work in drg but i think most ppl wud agree that idea is shit

[median mesa]

And draws in new players into a different genre

[raven steppe]

You can perfectly make 2 games at once

[tidal bison]

since everyone that plays drg:rc is probably just gonna have drg already

[tidal bison]

date hot driller <3

[raven steppe]

Like I don't think people play only DRG every day all day

[toxic badger]

I looked at the announcement and I gotta say compared to usual the reactions are uh not so great. I wonder if this would lead to them changing some decisions

[tidal bison]

i got bored after like 100 hrs and took a long break

[pearl tinsel]

I think how the devs have been handling their transition to this new game makes sense, but the season content in drg itself has still been pretty ass

[inland palm]

They aren’t making 2 games at once tho. They are making RC and just updating an already complete game

[raven steppe]

They are different games, and while the target audience has a big overlap, it's ultimately not the same

[tidal bison]

yeah

[raven steppe]

GSG has made some mayor shifts

Their transition to a dev / publisher is nothing to underestimate

[void musk]

I wish they could just come out and say they got lazy or lost motivation but I know they probably shouldn't say anything like that

[pearl tinsel]

People are just mad the next season will take longer. It barely matters anyways, nobody really cares about season content outside of cosmetics anyways

[toxic badger]

I've seen this suggestion all day and i love it

Driller/mission control dating sim

[raven steppe]

That kind of development takes a lot o effort and risk, and their lineup of published games is really strong and a proof of how serious they are

[pearl tinsel]

Because they didn't get lazy. They're working on something else now

[tidal bison]

mission control is wild ngl

[tidal bison]

thats a horrible idea

[void musk]

Just in regards to seasons

[raven steppe]

Also, they didn't get Lazy

Season 4 is neat as it introduced NEW ENEMIES

[tidal bison]

they are working on another game

(dont know why tho)

im exited for it

tho

[raven steppe]

That makes games so much more replayable than cosmetics imo

[toxic badger]

I mean I care about the content lol. I mostly just want them to add the unused enemies. The macteria bomber, stalker and the unfinished acid queen boss

[tidal bison]

you gotta admit... s4 was bad...

[unkempt lance]

i hope cosmetics get ported

[pearl tinsel]

I think they were working primarily on the wrong things, not that the content they were making was necessarily getting worse directly

[tidal bison]

even if it has new enemies... they were annoying and did nothing for the game

[inland palm]

I think it’s pretty obvous RC was meant to be a season but it snowballed into being way bigger then gsg intended. So seasons did suffer because of their decision to make a full game, but i don’t think it has to do with them losing motivation

[tidal bison]

i can play without septic spreaders one shotting me from across a cave

[inland palm]

septic spreaders aren’t nearly that bad lol

[toxic badger]

They are gonna be rebaIanced think

[unkempt lance]

rebranded as "red bull"

(it doesnt give u wings)

[shy cedar]

Harold

[unkempt lance]

oh lol

[raven steppe]

Septic spreaders are neat

It's a fun challenge to fight a catapult like enemy

[tidal bison]

they said that and it made it worse

[inland palm]

imo i think it’s better then s3. But anyways this topic is for #drg-chat

[toxic badger]

On s5 they got a sniper issue imo. I love how skidosh they are but they can stay high up on a ledge far away terrorizing me. Even the lok1 can't see em

[broken flame]

Gotta wonder why our ship is called "The Ramrod"

[pearl tinsel]

I mostly mean the season events and missions which people have consistently not cared much for. The lack of focus on core gameplay is what has caused the most criticism of seasons. People want perk reworks, new overclocks, new standard enemies, but most of the focus has been on these lame season events that people have consistently not liked

[unkempt lance]

anyway new enemies that gsg introduced were always "annoying" and "did nothing for the game"

[void sage]

I like Season 4

[unkempt lance]

robots are tanky mfers

rockpox is gimmicky annoying

[tidal bison]

yeah its all fun and games until you get hit with the EDD stage 3 SEPTIC SPREADER ball

[raven steppe]

They are enemies, they are meant to be challenging lmao

[pearl tinsel]

Idk what yall on about, spreaders and stingtails were awesome

[tidal bison]

robots were awesome

rival was so cool

it was like

[storm solstice]

Spreaders are fine

[tidal bison]

you had to hide and strategize

[toxic badger]

Uh idk about this take. I think a lot of want new content, more Perks, more overclocks and enemies

[tidal bison]

this is just

[void sage]

New enemies are cool and rockpox I always kind of enjoyed fighting anyway. And the season pass has a lot of neato rewards in it.

[tidal bison]

durrrrr spray foam on thing and it runs

[storm solstice]

Stingtails are annoying but not that annoying

[pearl tinsel]

Reread what I said

[raven steppe]

You know, ALL I can ask for rn is to get something to do with my excess Perk Point

[shy cedar]

Play one of the hazard+ mods and then go back to edd

[tidal bison]

never

edd always on top fr

[toxic badger]

Oh shit mb

[shy cedar]

But haz 10 fun

[toxic badger]

Pretend I'm not illiterate af

[tidal bison]

haz 10 seems boring if you just get one shot and all the enemies take mags to kill

[pearl tinsel]

Like people were more excited about the fucking double barrel rework than anything lmao

[broken flame]

Cuz it was bad

[pearl tinsel]

Why they haven't been adding new overclocks since season 3 I do not understand

[toxic badger]

My favourite way to play drg is starship troopers difficulty. A fuck ton more enemies but they are weaker health and dmg wise

[tidal bison]

some guy said this

"I think people want a full proper DRG2, not a whole series of weird low-effort spinoffs that got announced in the midst of Embracer Group, owners of Ghost Ship Games, having a series of high-profile financial disasters. It reminds of the closure of THQ. So far there's a roguelike, a card game, a board game, a survivorslike... anyone paying attention should be concerned. This isn't "business as usual", this is "oh ♥♥♥♥ oh god someone RELEASE A GAME! RELEASE ANYTHING! IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR JOBS, GENERATE PROFIT AT ALL COSTS! OH GOD THE ROOF IS ON FIRE!""

[raven steppe]

I mean this is the rogue core chat

[shy cedar]

That’s the haz 4.5 mod right?

[tidal bison]

it brings up a good point

[toxic badger]

No it's not a haz anything

[inland palm]

no it’s haz 4 x 2

[tidal bison]

they are working on like 3 other spinoffs right now

[raven steppe]

So idk this is fitting

[tidal bison]

kinda weird

[void sage]

I didn't know this guy was working for DRG. He must be a reliable source of information.

[broken flame]

Huffing doomicide

[toxic badger]

It scales every enemy down 1 hazard but like 50%+ spawn rate

[tidal bison]

i mean its true tho you dont have to be a whistleblower to know this

[shy cedar]

The actual starship troopers game was kinda bad so didn’t wanna try it :/

[pearl tinsel]

I don't think gsg is suffering financially at all

[tidal bison]

look at portfolios

[old swift]

they are not

[inland palm]

starship troopers = haz 4 double spawns

starship troopers elite = haz 5 double spawns

[raven steppe]

Okay just asking, GSG is PUBLISHING a most of what you say

[old swift]

they are working on 1 spinoff

[hoary lynx]

rougue core has already achieved to Update4, that's why we got a little in season4

[raven steppe]

They areonly making Rogue Core

[pearl tinsel]

And rogue core's scope seems similar to what a drg sequel would be, it's just not the same kind of game

[inland palm]

love the misinfo

[tidal bison]

if this game is gonna be GTFO but roguelike

im copping

[old swift]

they are publishing everything else

[tidal bison]

im exaggerating

[raven steppe]

Survivor is a separate team

[tidal bison]

its not 3

[toxic badger]

That's fair I didn't like either but I'd highly suggest it cuz with drg enemies it's a blast for me and my friends

[broken flame]

CORRECT

[tidal bison]

really?

[raven steppe]

It's literally Ghost Ship PUBLISHING

[tidal bison]

oh

okay

thats different then

[raven steppe]

Why do you think the models are new?

[inland palm]

they are just publishing survivor lol

[tidal bison]

okay yeah that makes sense

i thought this game would be like survivor

low effort cheap copy of another game

[pearl tinsel]

Survivor's main contribution to drg lore is hyper realistic scout, and actually smart imeplenetation of elemental damsge types

[broken flame]

There's still people that think they're also making the board game -_-

[tidal bison]

dont like vampire survivor tho

ill try it out but ehh

[deep agate]

has it calmed down yet

[tidal bison]

yes

[broken flame]

Kinda

[inland palm]

survivor is a completely different genre. RC is gonna be way more similiar it’s to drg, just with a rogue light twist

[old swift]

wasn't all too bad

[raven steppe]

I hate elemental damage that is just different colored numbers. Love me PoE damage, Borderlands damge

[old swift]

i think chat still got worse when they announced season passes

[tidal bison]

gtfo roguelike would be awesome

thats what i think gtfo is suffering in

[pearl tinsel]

Survivor is actually pretty high quality as far as vampire survivor copies go though lol. Unique mining mechanic and such

[tidal bison]

i used to play it a bit

[inland palm]

that shit was funny

[tidal bison]

yeah but i personally just dont really enjoy them but im willing to keep an open mind

ill try it out

[pearl tinsel]

I find it funny that survivor has plasma damage but regular drg does not

[inland palm]

i like survivor so far

[raven steppe]

Survivor is neat

But DINOLORDS???

[toxic badger]

Wait whaa

[pearl tinsel]

Instead it has some weird mish mash of electricity and fire that varies across every plasma weapon

[toxic badger]

Ppl got made at free battle passes???

[raven steppe]

Thing is

Battle Pass = Pay money in 99% of games

[tidal bison]

People just don’t like battle passes

[broken flame]

As you can see some people can't read

[tidal bison]

They are a cheap way to get content pumped out

[pearl tinsel]

@raven steppe what's your pfp from?

[tidal bison]

But I like this battle pass implementation

[toxic badger]

Same lol

[raven steppe]

Gameplay wise, if you remove paying, a battle pass is a simple way to push people to play the game in a different way and have fun in ways they otherwise wouldn't

[tidal bison]

Yeah

This game needs tf2 randomly generated contracts

[raven steppe]

@pearl tinsel From one of the greatest games ever made by man

[tidal bison]

Tf2 like

[pearl tinsel]

If it's the game I'm thinking of, I literally just finished that a few days ago lmao

[raven steppe]

Which game are you thinking about

[pearl tinsel]

Ghost trick?

[raven steppe]

Correct

[pearl tinsel]

Epic

[cloud cave]

any info on how to sign up for closed alpha? i'm very interested in this new title

[tidal bison]

2024 Q1

Wait till then

[cloud cave]

Okay thank you

[raven steppe]

I would nerd out on it but we must be breaking like 5 different rules

[tidal bison]

Yw

[raven steppe]

Dms?

[pearl tinsel]

Dm me bro

[raven steppe]

Way ahead of you

[broken flame]

New friendship already born from Rogue Core before it's even out. This game is gonna be amazing.

[cloud cave]

yeah same

[deep agate]

ya'll would hack into eachother with pickaxes over a alpha key i bet smh what a community 😦

proud of ya

[cloud cave]

i would c4 all the scouts in this server for an alpha key

[deep agate]

please.

you'd do that for free.

[cloud cave]

true

[brave oriole]

I would absolutely hack anyone to bits for an alpha key lol

[unkempt lance]

the community has gone rogue

[cloud cave]

hahaha

[civic hemlock]

Honestly with how the reception has been yeah kinda

It'll all die down by tomorrow though

[old swift]

id do it for less depending on the person

[civic hemlock]

Also Rogue Core

Please do more supernatural horror type monsters

It'd make it feel more distinct from the standard Hoxxes wildlife (which I'm sure we'll be fighting most likely)

And also help contribute to the hostile creepy vibe

[potent cedar]

What is rouge core?

[hollow wolf]

Spinoff DRG game made by ghost ship games. Co-op roguelite

The big question is: who is doing the soundtrack?

[atomic sequoia]

True the original music designer signed off

[pearl tinsel]

Why do people keep saying rouge

It's rogue

Not rouge

[atomic sequoia]

People can't spell that's all

[pearl tinsel]

I know but like I've seen people call it that consistently

Rouge is makeup powder lmao

[atomic sequoia]

Yeah and it's not just this game

[civic hemlock]

It's hilarious

Rouge is red lmao

[atomic sequoia]

Yea

[civic hemlock]

People just keep on mixing the g and u somehow

Idk how though it makes 0 sense phonetically either

[atomic sequoia]

Ikr

[ornate spade]

Rouge = 🦇

[pearl tinsel]

Do not

[atomic sequoia]

Bro....

[ornate spade]

[loud garden]

"a delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad"

-Shigeru Miyamoto

[atomic sequoia]

Yu

p

Payday 3

[civic hemlock]

Rogue Core full release in 2028 hehe

[drowsy igloo]

"rushed game terrible bad, delayed game bad until good"
-Hideo "Game" Miyamoto

[atomic sequoia]

Honestly drg survivor ain't even that bad

the only thing i don't like about it is that they use the drop pod soundtracks as combat soundtracks which just sounds uncanny

[civic hemlock]

I think it's brilliant tbh

[atomic sequoia]

Like idk why the people are complaining

[civic hemlock]

They think it's ruining DRG proper?

[prime plover]

It's a good start. For a early development build the game plays well

[atomic sequoia]

Yeah it's pretty fun too

[prime plover]

Yep

It's just so satisfying when you get a build working, and you can just sit in a corner in the last stage and the swarms can't even touch you

That's how I got the lvl 75 milestone

[woeful ember]

Rouce gore?

[cedar fable]

[atomic sequoia]

[thorny siren]

So what even is rogue core actually about
Do we know, is there a point to this chat?

[fickle iris]

Read the blog man

[amber vortex]

so fucking excited

for this gaaaame

[somber hawk]

Honestly, it feels so much more like a game then most survivor-likes.

[junior kindle]

oh wow, im super excited for this

where's the blog?

[waxen ermine]

Kind of gives me GTFO vibes

[frank bison]

So like

are they just gonna ditch DRG one and make this DRG2 thing?

[waxen ermine]

It's something happening in parallel

[frank bison]

what's the difference? Looks like the same stuff

[solemn zinc]

Sanguinius it's like a game mode but made into its own game. And DRG's Season 5 is gonna be related to it.

I forgot if your PFP was Sanguinius or not.

[frank bison]

It is Dante

[solemn zinc]

Yeah.

Get your money up, not your funny up Dante.

[sick kayak]

Sup guys, was sleeping during a devstream, in short rogue core is basically roguelike DRG?

[waxen ermine]

Pretty much it seems, could also describe it as horror adjacent deep diving

[sick kayak]

I wonder if it's gonna give us some lore about DRG universe

[waxen ermine]

I'd be surprised if it doesn't, certainly has some horror vibes not unlike GTFO.

The choice of Dreadnought bgm in the trailer may or may not mean something.

[waxen hamlet]

I wonder if we will learn anything about Karl and what happened to him?

[sick kayak]

From screenshots I've seen on reddit new locations look stunning

Honestly at first when i heard the name I thought it's gonna be some unrelated 2d game

[solemn zinc]

I hope it has GTFO Vibes.

I want that horror element.

[sick kayak]

Was pleasantly surprised when i saw good old drg style

[solemn zinc]

I am craving for it.

[broken flame]

No

[atomic sequoia]

Just read the pins man...

[cinder birch]

they really should release rogue core as full price game dlc for base drg, but make it have separate repo like a separate game

[brave oriole]

So not a dlc? Like if DRG isn't required then what's the point of making it a dlc lol

Maybe add it to a couple of the existing bundles, so people who got those can get that sweet sweet 10% discount lol

[oblique crow]

I like it as a seperate game

[cinder birch]

so it doesnt feel as a separate game, since it already feels like an expansion for drg

personally i just remembered what happened to r6 extraction

[fickle iris]

It was originally supposed to be an expansion to the base game just like below zero was gonna be for subnautica but they both have turned into their own games

[brave oriole]

Yeah, It feels distinct enough that it couldn't be a DLC (if it could they probably would have made it one)

[cinder birch]

i know

[broken flame]

I think it just needs to be it's own game

[brave oriole]

Hopefully it does not follow in below zeros footsteps lol

[oblique crow]

yeah i think removal of the class system really makes it distinct from OG DRG

[cinder birch]

and below zero is singleplayer

[waxen ermine]

The core gameplay loop seems to be just different enough that it doesn't quite mesh into base DRG

[fickle iris]

Yeah but I was just trying to make an example of how an expansion turned into its own game

[cinder birch]

imagine if rogue core wont have new ost

[sharp junco]

I think they thought the "At this point this game mode is so different than main game, it would be better to make it its own"

[brave oriole]

Also COOP multiplayer games with content DLC have issues, like what do you do If one person doesn't have the DLC? I like how ROF2 handles it and just makes it based on the host IIRC, letting those without it use it.

[fickle iris]

Wonder what the cost will be like, no matter what I'll still buy it.

My best comparison is kinda like Mann VS Machine for tf2

[brave oriole]

Prob ~30$ like DRG, I don't see them making it more expensive then DRG tbh

[fickle iris]

Yeah obviously

[cinder birch]

thats literally what they said

[sharp junco]

I watched only 10 last minutes of stream

[fickle iris]

But I do like how their trying to get back into the open development

And taking their time with this

[brave oriole]

Yeah, I'm excited to watch the game grow

[fickle iris]

While having respect for their employees

Drg story mode when?

[cinder birch]

i wonder if rogue core is kinda like r6 extraction/l4d

where you go to the safehouse from the spawn but do an objective in between

[fickle iris]

Hmm

[waxen ermine]

If they lean into the horror vibe, GTFO more than L4D I'd say

[fickle iris]

It is a roguelite though

[waxen ermine]

Go in, complete the mission, get out.

[fickle iris]

Yeah

[waxen ermine]

Survive whatever horrors are hiding down there, possibly uncover the deep lore

[fickle iris]

I mean we will be playing as some elite dwarf reclaimers

Going deep into the heart of the planet

[waxen ermine]

Oops, nothing but unknown horrors

[cedar kelp]

hey yo those are many messages send one after the other does that mean...?

YEEEEEEEAH NO MORE 2 MINUTE SLOWMODE

[broken flame]

Been that way half a day ago

Lil less

[fickle iris]

Most likely just for the influx of players coming to discuss rouge core

[broken flame]

"Discuss"

[cedar kelp]

dunno bout that I don't think it was the same for the boardgame

[dry nova]

Is rogue core gonna be a dlc or a whole new game

[broken flame]

New game

[lavish tundra]

Let's fucking go risk of rain 2 in DRG

[paper pasture]

There's literally HUnter's Harpoon as one of the powerups so yeah, ror2 + drg lmao

It's funny how we're getting splatoon's side order and roguecore in 2024 and they are

• just a month apart more or less
• both roguelike approaches to another genre that has to do with guns
• both have a cute robot companion (pearl drone and bosco)

[slow loom]

Guys... The real question is: will there be lootbugs to pet?

[mint notch]

If there isn’t it’s not truly deep rock

[slow loom]

Weeeeuweeeeuweeeeu the cutness police just got alerted

[raw ridge]

You mean to pop

[mint notch]

:0

[slow loom]

[raw ridge]

They shouldn't eat precious minerals

It will get them killed

[open locust]

yo guys im kinda new i just came back to the game, is rogue core playable right now in early access or not yet?

[paper pasture]

[paper pasture]

it will get into early access in late 2024

think q4

[open locust]

alright, so you cant play it at all right now right?

[paper pasture]

correct

[open locust]

also did they show any gameplay on yt or something?

or did they just release the concept

[paper pasture]

only some screens, no complete seamless gameplay

[shadow egret]

Fingers crossed for no rockpox, a mechanic so unfun my group stopped playing DRG altogether

[paper pasture]

The jist of the game seems that the planet has become (self)aware so perhaps an alien pathogen is out of the equation

[slow loom]

There will be an closed alpha q1 2024

Let me iiiiiiiiiin

[paper pasture]

I for one hope it's as light as drg in the specs department

My potato laptop stutters with survivor, dammit

[desert hull]

I hope that this game will have its own identity, I really do not know why they kept the DRG title, Rogue Core (as a title) itself is already good enough

[paper pasture]

We do keep dwarves (although a new class), and I guess keeping the setting is also important (mining operation in the very heart of a dangerous planet to mine a very lucrative mineral)

[sick jetty]

Because, it's still Deep Rock Galactic. You are employed by the company Deep Rock Galactic. It is set in the same universe and will have probably 80% of the same mechanics. There is no reason to not have the DRG title.

[ancient magnet]

What Jekl said

[sick jetty]

Yeah lmao

[ancient magnet]

I was about to type

[sick jetty]

🤡 questions

It will definitely have its own identity but like. . . It's still drg

[ancient magnet]

I mean anyone can present questions

[sick jetty]

Yeah but like. . . C'mon

[ancient magnet]

I hope rogue core would lean more into horror

Because there's good potential with that in DRG

[dry nova]

Ye I kind of feel like the first bosses are kinda underwhelming in drg

Like the suppressor is kinda a harder pictorian

[sick jetty]

Nah, while I really like the DRG art style I can't imagine much horror rising from it without losing the sort of chunky style of the game

But I'm perfectly happy to be proven otherwise

[slow loom]

we already saw the lok-1.... elite reclaimers get no better weapons... cause DRG is a soulless mining company

[dry nova]

I feel like sfx could be better

[halcyon creek]

we probably will, doesn’t hurt to reuse weapons

[ancient magnet]

You mean weapon sfx of enemy sfx?

Or sfx in general

[halcyon creek]

Lok-1 is a really cool weapon, if i had the chance to reuse it i would

[dry nova]

Enemy sfx mainly

[broken flame]

Cant wait to see some wild ass ideas for weapons

[sick jetty]

I just hope for no rock pox... or at least some massive reworks cause it's deeper in the planet

[ancient magnet]

Rly? I thought that was the stronger part of the game's sfx myself

[dry nova]

I feel like it’s missing something with not many creators having footsteps

I think it would be a really good thing

Like mollys footsteps

[slow loom]

in rogue core you will probably rly overpowered with right upgrades... i want to throw a c4 on enemies that explode like a bulk lol

[dry nova]

And also they gotta fox vaulting

[ancient magnet]

Praetorians and glyphids do have footsteps (especially praeotrians)

[halcyon creek]

if i had to guess rockpox and rival would make some appearance, but i do think rockpox specifically would be changed due to it being very deep and near the planets core

[sick jetty]

Yeah

[dry nova]

Ye but you don’t even notice them

[sick jetty]

Woah. . . I bet there's gonna be some cool stuff involving armoran core stuff

[ancient magnet]

Ig it depends if you use headphones or not (I do)

[dry nova]

There’s needs to be a big creature that’s loud and powerful but doesn’t take 15 mins to kill

I use headphones

[desert hull]

Yeah, that is true, but I am kind of scared it will be too similar to the main game. I am excited for it, as rogues are my fav genre and this seems like a perfect pick for a "sequel"

[sick jetty]

Like rock constructs

OH DAMN WAUT

Armoran core infected with rockpox. Imagine that

[ancient magnet]

I don't think it will be too similar, after all they did decide to make this into a whole new game instead of a new gamemode

[sick jetty]

Yeah

[ancient magnet]

Sure, it might share some similarities, but it fundamentally plays differently

[broken flame]

Here you all are talking about all these pointless things, and knowing is bringing up what really matters

[ancient magnet]

But it's too early to say since there's no gameplay trailer yet

[broken flame]

Why is our ship called the Ramrod?

[ancient magnet]

I'm lopkign foward to it

[sick jetty]

Where's molly

[ancient magnet]

What's so funny about Ramrod?

[broken flame]

It's a rod that rams

[ancient magnet]

[broken flame]

[slow loom]

you guys move on meanwhile to other games while waiting for rogue core or still play DRG

[broken flame]

I can do both

[ancient magnet]

Prob both

There's still the halloween/christmas events to do

[desert hull]

It will probably be a good game due to the open development, but there are far more many eyes on them now than ever before. I just hope they make the roguelike elements good enough :D

[ancient magnet]

I trust them

[sick jetty]

My only concern is too many ideas being spread too thin, and people being upset that some things are in one game and not the other

[raw ridge]

I mean, I unlocked Deep Dives only yesterday

I still have content to do

But I'm also already tired of rockpox stuff lol

[sick jetty]

I've seen people ask for the drones and stuff from survivor to be implemented in DRG, and I can only imagine what else will be requested once the full game is out. But once rogue core is released I can only imagine what from that they'll want added

But if gsg does that then the games might blend together too much and it'll become dull

[broken flame]

I think GSG has gotten decent at ignoring bad suggestions.

[sick jetty]

I do hope they add some stuff. Mostly cosmetics and potentially Easter eggs for each of the games but aside from that I hope they stay pretty seperate

[raw ridge]

Suggestions that I disagree with*

[broken flame]

Bad suggestions.

I know what I said.

[sick jetty]

Gsg has done well just doing what they want, but it doesn't change the public opinion and if you have riots about not adding something then the community will be divided and unhappy

[desert hull]

Also, is it true that the DRG is coded like spaghetti code?
If yes, maybe the new game is a way to make new content making faster than before?

[sick jetty]

Idk

[broken flame]

I've only heard of valve games described like that tbh o3o

[quaint monolith]

I think people forgot Gsg aren't like some AAA studio with 500 employees

[calm yoke]

Moving to other games for sure

[desert hull]

yeah they aren't

it is good that they are moving onto a new game

it had to happen one day, it is good to hear that the new project is so similar to another game we enjoy

[raw ridge]

"moving on" lol

It's not like they are stopping the development

I appreciate they explained the reasons but to have a seasonal content last whole year is a bit much 👀

[broken flame]

At least enough people have screamed their sentiment about rockpox lasting that long. I've got confidence they're ready to just end the 4th season for now. I just really don't want the rockpox stuff to be as rare as the rival stuff is right now

[desert hull]

imo calling it seasons is the main mistake here, I just think of those as expansions for the game

[shy cedar]

I like Harold

[broken flame]

Same

[shy cedar]

👍

[broken flame]

I love the season stuff, but my friends have openly stated they are sick of the lithophage stuff

[prime plover]

That's not the case. RC isn't a replacement for DRG, it's a spin-off, a side game

[raw ridge]

I personally dislike the litophage corruptor and contagion spikes beacuse they kinda break the gameplay flow

[shy cedar]

What about Harold? Do you like Harold

[broken flame]

Lolll, that is harold

[desert hull]

Had I said that it is a replacement for DRG? It is a new game in the same universe that is being focused on right now more than DRG due to it being a new project.

[raw ridge]

I hate cleaning Harold

Looks cool though

[broken flame]

The lore of how a harold appears is pretty sick too, basically a writhing mass of corpses and biomass and sludge

[shy cedar]

I genuinely hope it’s more hardcore on both resource management and enemy mechanics

[cinder birch]

dead space bretheren moon

[shy cedar]

Stinky basement dweller (Harold) need a shower. Do us all a favor and give Harold a shower when you see him

[raw ridge]

Nah, it's boring

[shy cedar]

Yeah it kind of is can’t argue with that

Really hoped it’d be a 4th dreadnaught

[raw ridge]

DRG is pretty fast paced when it comes to combat, so having to stop, call the cleaning pod THEN having to keep swapping between the cleaning tools and your weapons on top of keeping attention to rockpox meter is really annoying

[cinder birch]

i think the issue with harold is that teammates are stupid and it doesnt explicitly tell them to remove the spikes. Meaning you can only do it efficiently only when you play in duo or more

[solemn zinc]

Harold is just the bane of my existence to the point I don't want to even fight him.

Just keep him as a friend.

[cinder birch]

erm uh skill issue

[mint notch]

Is it just me or is he really difficult? And don’t say skill issue, I’m fine with everything else in the game

[raw ridge]

Annoying, not difficult

[broken flame]

Actual Skill issue, tap into your inner Mr. OxiClean

[solemn zinc]

No I just find him annoying and he's funny I already finished the battle pass either way.

[broken flame]

Become one with the soap

[shy cedar]

I just don’t like that people hold the vacuum button and don’t let the foam touch the Harold

[raw ridge]

Sounds like leaf lover thing

[solemn zinc]

He isn't difficult. Just annoying.

[fading sluice]

The longer the spikes stays on Hoxxes, the powerful they become

[mint notch]

Hey hey uncalled for 😂

[cinder birch]

i think the other issue with harold is that vacuum and lithogun dont have straps, you always need to drop them

[raw ridge]

Honestly, foam and vacuum should be just left and right click "attack"

On a singular tool

[shy cedar]

Yeah drg needs to develop some strap ons

[solemn zinc]

That be cool.

[raw ridge]

👀

[cinder birch]

i mean slings

[shy cedar]

But what about a suction cup on your forehead

[cinder birch]

not enough visibility

[broken flame]

Burning weapons should clean

Lemme rephrase that

[raw ridge]

You can dig through rockpox to destroy it btw

[broken flame]

My favorite class should become more awesome

[cinder birch]

maybe lithoguns should be just your 5th weapon until you kill harold with right click still dropping them

[raw ridge]

I feel like not enough people know to shoot the boils on rockpox glyphids

[quaint monolith]

Im fine with rockpox, I'm around level 370 in-game and I feel people just....aren't aiming for the bright yellow boils enough

Hell I sometimes just shake my mouse around or spray into a group with DRAK and boom, boils gone

[raw ridge]

Doctors hate him, here's why

[astral rapids]

The idea for this seems cool, but it sucks so bad that its taking priority over the base game. I truly don't understand why the developers even did the seasons system in the first place if they're going to treat it like an obligation to complain about and push off at every interval. You can't make a regular schedule for your updates and then call your fans ungrateful when they expect you to make an effort to stick to it. Just go back to random updates if you really want development to be so fluid

[sick jetty]

Fair

I hope once it's off the ground it'll have its own update schedule and DRG will have its own season schedule

[astral rapids]

GSG wants to have their cake and eat it too and it's so weird like I expect better from them at this point. They need to decide where their priorities lie

It'd be one thing if DRG season 4 was in an evergreen state, but its not. Rockpox was designed to be temporary

[sick jetty]

Well rogue core is being developed by a different studio iirc and is just being overseen my gsg

[broken flame]

I think if s4 ended and rockpox winded down, things would be fine

[sick jetty]

Yesh

[broken flame]

What I absolutely dont want is rockpox to be as rare as the rival stuff

Like damn

[astral rapids]

It's not, all the exact same people are working on both games in back-and-forth periods of time

[sick jetty]

Ok

Anyone else feel like nemesis should have a reward

[broken flame]

It's not really difficult enough for a reward

[sick jetty]

Eh

Fair

Is it possible to get korlok, Harold, and prospector in one mission?

[astral rapids]

I don't see why not

[broken flame]

The minibosses arent warning exclusive or anything, so yea, potentially

[sick jetty]

Hm

Cool

[arctic igloo]

#rogue-core-suggestions check this out 😄 a lot of cool ideas

[broken flame]

Mmmmmmhmmmmmmm

[rancid ermine]

yeah I do. Like the cores from season 2 or something. Just as a bonus payout or a bit of xp

[arctic igloo]

yes i'd agree

but it's just datarack

[rancid ermine]

yeah that one

the data cube

[sick jetty]

Anyways, I hope no on site refining/aquarks in rogue core. Maybe dorretta but different. Like maybe upgradeable and you keep her between missions instead of her breaking down

[rancid ermine]

on site refining is honestly one of my favourites

[sick jetty]

It's fun but I don't think it would make much sense for rogue core

[broken flame]

Apparently it's a 5-6 stage thing and a run will take about 30ish mins

[sick jetty]

Hm

[rancid ermine]

yeah definitely

the team from rogue core are the special ops of drg that are meant to retrieve whatever they lost comms with right?

[sick jetty]

Cause DRG has already lost plenty of equipment and dwarves down in the core, so it wouldn't make a whole bunch of sense to send even more equipment just to be lost when you're there to figure out what went wrong

[sick jetty]

Yeah basically what I just said lol

I hope we get a revamped caretaker and dreadnoughts considering we're closer to the core

Y'know, maybe they'd be the final bosses for each run?

[arctic igloo]

that's my understanding, yup

[rancid ermine]

I wanna see fully developed dreadnaughts

[sick jetty]

Like they're somehow responsible, but it's the core itself that's gone rogue so they'd probably be like stage bosses. Still significant but not the final boss

[arctic igloo]

same

[sick jetty]

My biggest most absolutely important, concerning, and outrageous question

Where's molly?

[rancid ermine]

maybe we get the big ones from the space rig

[sick jetty]

Yooo

Hope so

Wait

Imagine if we can upgrade her

[rancid ermine]

GUN ATTATCHMENTS

smart stout puttin in work

[sick jetty]

Like, she has mission storage, and then she has permanent storage so you can take things to and from the base!

But yes absolutely gun attachments

WAIT BOSCO

BOSCO my beloved

How I can't wait to see you all grown up

[rancid ermine]

he or something similar would still be there for the solo experience

[sick jetty]

Give me flame thrower bosco

[solemn zinc]

Imagine if there's just this giant dreadnought that almost finished hatching.

[rancid ermine]

fat boy bosco

[sick jetty]

Lmao

[rancid ermine]

I want fully finished ones

[sick jetty]

When are we getting Bosco and molly overclocks

[raw ridge]

Yeah it seemed to me like DRG is their "main" game, Survivor being just a side project

[rancid ermine]

I wanna see the untold horrors that mission control warned us about with the fully hatched dreadnoughts

[raw ridge]

But now with the RC announced it kinda seems to me like they start too many projects

[crimson sierra]

is rc a mode or different game?

[raw ridge]

Different game

[main tinsel]

1 year for a season, is that a joke? I mean its a good thing that company is expanding, but why abandoning the main game for a solid year? Is that just me being a baby or its a first concerning call

[crimson sierra]

sad

[rancid ermine]

it'll take a bit to get rc out and about, I dont think the delays between seasons will last too long

[hollow wolf]

They are not developing Survivor

[raw ridge]

Fair, corrected on that

[sick jetty]

Are you really going to be playing DRG without updates for a "year" (actually just 8 months) instead of doing other things, patiently waiting for it to come back?

[rancid ermine]

also even if the seasons take a while to come out im still happy with what we got currently. The game is fun as hell and I've still got friends to play with, builds to test, and things to work towards

[rancid ermine]

I probably would

[sick jetty]

Well it's a good thing the modding scene is alive and well

[grand acorn]

Modern gamer when new stimulants aren't constantly being thrown at his face

[runic tiger]

can someone explain what makes Rogue Core different enough to warrant being a new game please?

[grand acorn]

The OGs will remember back when we played l4d2 for 10 years without updates

[raw ridge]

I mean, as someone previously mentioned, players are justified to dislike having to endure a season for far too long after the devs wired them to expecting more or less regular seasonal content

[main tinsel]

Of course I am not, I am already getting sick of rockpox, and its not just me, by the mid of the March even a new player will have everything tested and checked

[raw ridge]

Plus the fact that many have mixed feelings about rockpox stuff

[sick jetty]

Yes that's absolutely true and a valid criticism, but if you don't like it there is nothing stopping you from not playing it

[atomic sequoia]

Y'all let the devs cook the concept is great

[raw ridge]

There's also nothing stopping me from voicing the criticism

[drowsy geode]

isnt rockpox doing his stuff like being annoying virus

[rancid ermine]

Think of it like an expansion with completely new dwarves, weapons, gamemodes, and an upgrade system like mvm from tf2