Model wont move in vtube studio

[grim plinth]

heres it moving perfectly inside live 2d

Hello, my model isnt moving in vtube studio, it moves perfectly inside live 2d editor. Camera is on in vtube studio, but she stands still, angles wont work, nothing. it tracks mouth and eyes but thats it

[regal swan]

Did you used default parameters to move the physics parameters?

[grim plinth]

i dont remember

heres a video

[regal swan]

ahh

wait

whats the output of this?

[regal swan]

thats your issue

you are using the same parameter as input and output

[grim plinth]

which other one would it be?

[regal swan]

is like if you tell your leg " when leg moves, move leg"

[grim plinth]

would it be angle x instead?

[regal swan]

let me ask you
this physic what is supposed to be in
"when 🟩 move, then ⬜ should move"

[grim plinth]

ill try angle x

i watched tutorial videos for the entire thing so i have no clue what im doing

[regal swan]

yeah, that is why i asked it like that so i could explain you how physics works... in case all rest physics are wrong too

[grim plinth]

the body isnt moving either

so im assuming i messed up the outputs there as well

[regal swan]

physics basicaly have
input > leads the movement
output > reacts to the movement

for example
hair moves when head moves

that means
input > head
output > hair

[grim plinth]

yeee

i understand that part

i just dont understand what i actually made since i was just following a tut

[regal swan]

well in that group you made

input: angle X physics
output: angle X physics

[grim plinth]

this is what ive got for body

[regal swan]

that looks fine

[grim plinth]

ok i changed the angle thing, should it work now?

[regal swan]

it should work

[grim plinth]

ill try it and come back c:

thank u

[regal swan]

yw

[grim plinth]

is there a reason why the body wasnt moving?

is it because of the angle thingy

[regal swan]

[ body Y is not by default a mouse tracked parameter in physics, so probably you didnt activated it]

[grim plinth]

i activated!

i just meant it wasnt moving in vtube studio

like with webcam

[regal swan]

are all this the original parameters when you started the model?

[grim plinth]

i believe so

[regal swan]

can you right click any of them and click on "edit"?

[grim plinth]

damn

its still not moving

ye ill do that

[regal swan]

i have a.... feeling they are not the original parameters

[grim plinth]

i started this model two months ago , mmy memory is horrible im sorry :C

[regal swan]

dw

[grim plinth]

oh um, i guess i didnt use them

how the heck am i moving the model LOL

[regal swan]

ok right click any of them

and click on edit parameter

and take a picture of it

[regal swan]

yeah

ok

let me explain to you whats happening

you created those parameters.
that mean they are not tracking parameters
and that is the reason why it does not move in VTS

can you go to angle X physics and click edit and take a picture too?

[regal swan]

oh ok...

you deleted the default parameters [the originals]

so you dont have tracking

[grim plinth]

i was watching someone do it, and they made all new ones

[regal swan]

to fix this

ngl, if a video tutorial tells you to delete or edit default parameters, you should look another tutorial

[grim plinth]

i am a really bad judge of what is correct or incorrect especially if im new to it :c

[regal swan]

you should never delete default parameters, and not edit them unless you know how that is gonna affect it [as it can break the tracking completly liks your current case]

do not worry

at least, this is an easy fix

[grim plinth]

oh good

i was worried i had to restart

[regal swan]

what you are gonna do
is to click on the menu of live2D
click on
New > model

and you will have now an empty new file

you will click edit on the angle X parameter
and you will copy
name, ID, min,default,max

and you will paste it on your angle X

basicaly we are editing the information of the default so yours, so it can be read as if it was the original

you do that with all default parameters [the only default parameters that does not matter are hair ones]

[grim plinth]

so only angle x y z ?

[regal swan]

all default parameters

default = all the parameters that get created on the new file you just made]

[grim plinth]

ooo okie

give me a sec

okie done

now whut

[regal swan]

now save, reexport and now vts should be able to found your tracking

[grim plinth]

lemme see!

btw thank you so much for taking the time to help me

i genuinely wouldnt have been able to figure this out on my own

[regal swan]

thanks to you for the patience, and dont worry to ask anything you need

[grim plinth]

i followed ur twitter and subbed to your youtube

[regal swan]

ohh thanks, you are really kind!

[grim plinth]

shes still not moving :c

cam is tracking eyes and mouth but nothing else

i think i messed up somewhere else, i have no clue tho

[regal swan]

did you clicked autoset again?

as because you already opened the model probably had still the vts settings broken

[grim plinth]

i reinput a new file

[regal swan]

did it asked to autoset when you opened it?

[grim plinth]

ye

i clicked auto set

[regal swan]

can you check if you have the physics at 50 ?

[grim plinth]

here?

[regal swan]

in vts

[grim plinth]

oooo theres one in vts?

[regal swan]

on the icon of a person, where you can see the name of your model, there should be physics at 50, 60fps

[regal swan]

change to 60 fps

[grim plinth]

still cant move anything

[regal swan]

and check if below that there should be the parameters, check if for example face X, is moving

[grim plinth]

its moving a tiny bit on the in

[regal swan]

whats the max number the left red dot reach?

[grim plinth]

10

[regal swan]

ok, then change the 30 that is on the left, for 10

[grim plinth]

i can move body now

but not head

[regal swan]

wait.. can you take a picture of all that square? like not only the numbers but the full square

[grim plinth]

it seems my body is on face angles?

its moving my chest left and right

[regal swan]

ok, and you say when you edited this, the body started moving???

[grim plinth]

ye

:C

[regal swan]

that means you edited the parameters wrong lol, like you wrote the angle X info in the body X

[grim plinth]

would you like to call maybe? if your comfortable with that

im really confused

i think i messed up my labeling in live 2d

[regal swan]

what looks that hapened is that, you wrote the information of angle X in body X

[grim plinth]

i have it set like this

[regal swan]

in the edit of the parameter

[regal swan]

not in physics

[grim plinth]

oh

[regal swan]

when you copied all the default parameters

you wrote the info of angle X in body X

[grim plinth]

here?

[regal swan]

not the physics ones, the default ones

this ones

[regal swan]

what does angle X say?

[regal swan]

by your tutorial you followed, did you made any physics where you had

input > angle X
output > body x

?

[grim plinth]

oh gosh uh

i have no clue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pFJuldwlOQ

i watched these

[regal swan]

ok, open physics

go to this part, and click on body x, on any random part of the line of the parameter

tell me if
a > the red dot stay where you clicked
b > the red dot goes back to middle after you clicked

[grim plinth]

it moves the hair

b

[regal swan]

ok, that means that you made a physics group where body is output

do the same test with angle X

[grim plinth]

oh wait

i did it opposite

so body x stays

angle x doesnt

sorry

[regal swan]

ah ok

you need to found the group where you have angle X and output and take it out of there

Default parameters should not be output of physics

[grim plinth]

here

[regal swan]

yeah, take it out

the reason is

[grim plinth]

do i replace it?

[regal swan]

what that group is for?

[grim plinth]

um

i dont remember LOL

I HAVE SO MANY

[regal swan]

default parameters are tracking parameters, so they should not be output of physics
because physics will cancel tracking

[grim plinth]

how can i tell what it is for

[regal swan]

ok, swap them

[grim plinth]

ah angle physics?

[regal swan]

make the angle X = input
the angle X physic = output

[grim plinth]

okiii

i switched it, but now her head wont go up or down

does that have to do with the scale?

[regal swan]

X = left right
Y= up down
Z = tilt left to right

[grim plinth]

it did!

it was the output

[regal swan]

be careful with the fact that you are editing X and you said it should move up-down

up-down is Y not X

[grim plinth]

i meant y

sorry i mix the two, im kinda slow

[regal swan]

dw

[grim plinth]

its so many letters

[regal swan]

you get used to it after some practice, dont worry

[grim plinth]

This is my first try

very scary

i am an illustrator, and i offered to do a model for a friend for free, and they couldnt afford the rigging so i said i would do it for them

[regal swan]

i did this draw when i was starting to help me visualize things when i was confused about the xyz

[grim plinth]

thats very helpful

so do u think its safe to try it in vtube studio?

[regal swan]

try it, it should work now, if not we will check again dw

[grim plinth]

thank you for being patient with me

[regal swan]

when you start things is normal to get issues like this, but everything can be fixed

[grim plinth]

im glad i at least did all the pretty flowy stuff right :3

that was tricky

im sorry if i got infurating at points, i get really confused

[regal swan]

ahh, its fine, i had been there too

you be free to ask as many times as you need

[grim plinth]

i have to do a second model after this and will most likely mess up again

[regal swan]

if that happends you can ask here again, or even tag me if you want, i am most of the time rigging so it looks like i live in the server

[grim plinth]

thats so kind of u

thank you for being so helpful :c

opening up vtube studio

it moves!!!

the x is not as strong as i would like tho, can i edit that in vtube studio?

or the z i mean

actually, ill go and change the output inside live 2d , its probably too low overall

[regal swan]

yeah the same way we edited in vts before you can do that to all parameters

[grim plinth]

OMG

[regal swan]

that is what we call calibrating

[grim plinth]

IT WORKS

OMG

ur from heaven

THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[regal swan]

❤️ i am glad is working now! i hope you friends likes your model a lot, is really pretty

[grim plinth]

Thank you

proof of ur good help!!!

[regal swan]

thanks hina! also that so cute, you did really well with the model

[grim plinth]

thank you so much ❤️