guessing that's related to like
having permission to have a freehold in a new node
#questions
fleet rock
modest kite
I feel like you still lose like.. a LOT though, or am I mistaken?
reef osprey
@modest kite losses will be considerable probably, yes
fleet rock
maybe it's much
reef osprey
that's why you wanna def your shit
sharp bramble
Following that quote, Equinox, it specifies that at the end of the grace period, if a freehold does not reside within the ZOI of stage 3 or higher node, it will be destroyed
onyx knoll
Depends what kind of housing it is. If it was an in-node housing like an apartment on building inside the town, and the node gets destroyed, then it's guaranteed you lost the house itself. If it was a freehold, then it would have been outside the town itself, and unless the attackers went out of their way to destroy it, it might survive the attack.
reef osprey
@fleet rock
if your metro is gone, then a city and multiple towns will upgrade to the next tier, which automatically opens up new freehold spots
@onyx knoll he was talking about houses on freehold further above
modest kite
Alright, so, again, just to clarify
If it is a freehold, and the attackers did get out of their way to raid your freehold, you only lose resources. Additionally you receive a time-limited quest which you have to undertake in order to not lose your plot?
I'm so confused x-x
woven vale
I believe you lose your plot, but can undertake a quest to gain a new plot
sharp bramble
The blueprint gets mailed to you when destroyed. The quest refers to keeping your freehold in the current influenced zone you're in
reef osprey
@modest kite I don't think there is any information on that quest.
If you can defend your freehold from the raiders, you won't lose it. If you do, you'll lose it. It's that simple
modest kite
And if you lose it, how grave are your losses in general?
woven vale
Though that'll be interesting to see defenders abandon their node to protect their freehold
@modest kite Unknown, but noticeable
sharp bramble
Freeholds aren't targetable until after a successful siege, Joka
obsidian mauve
for two hours after the siege i believe
sharp bramble
^
reef osprey
@modest kite we don't know any specifics, but Intrepid has repeaditely stated that they want it to Sting quite a bit
modest kite
Are freeholds marked on the map by any chance? If not, is it not possible to "hide" them in a sense?
rapid hinge
I'm kinda concerned about this as well, I intend on being a tamer/breeder. I'm wondering if I'll lose the animals or if raiders can come kill them.
modest kite
And again, thanks everyone for helping out (:
woven vale
@sharp brambleGod my knowledge is stagnating, yeah, I've missing a hell of alot today.
obsidian mauve
hmm this is making me think about the demand for mercs. @rapid hinge if you knew a siege was coming, would you hire other players to help protect you?
onyx knoll
As far as I know the freeholds aren't marked on the map, but I don't think you can hide them other them placing them in an out-of-the-way area
reef osprey
@rapid hinge tamed animals are seen as gatherables from our current point of information
fleet rock
will you have to use resources to repair all your items and how often will this be if so? i remember this being brought up maybe and it's super annoying having to repair your things
obsidian mauve
@reef osprey you can also breed them to make different variations
sharp bramble
Haha, it's fine. I'm usually trying to answer people's questions with the wiki up because of my shit memory, Joka.
rapid hinge
Ok, because I'd be really unhappy if people could come in and kill them
onyx knoll
@fleet rock we don't know yet how often you'll need to repair gear, but yes, it'll require mats to do so
obsidian mauve
what do yall think about the repair system? It seems generally like a good idea to me to maintain demand for goods
onyx knoll
Please bring conversations on opinions to #aoc-discussion
obsidian mauve
opps yea this is questions, my B
reef osprey
Its very good @obsidian mauve
also, the better "grade" your gear is, the more expensive the repairs will be
higher maintenance for higher tier gear will also help narrow the divide between hardcore players and regular players
instead of creating an evergrowing snowball
modest kite
Is there an average size per node? Lik, how long would it take for somebody with a mount go from border to border?
reef osprey
there isn't
sharp bramble
Metropolises are .5km in diameter, according to the wiki. So i guess that depends on how fast your mount speed is D:
modest kite
.5 or 5?
sharp bramble
.5
frigid tartan
i'm pretty sure thats just for the city and that the area controlled by the city is probably bigger
modest kite
Yeah.. 500m for a whole node is kinda low x)
Another question: Is the friend referral program rewards disclosed yet?
woven vale
You will get 30% kickback from their purchases
modest kite
30%? Damn that's generous
Are there any milestones? (eg. you get this at 10 refs, etc)
woven vale
I don't think we have any milestones, just a flat reward.
modest kite
Yet!
Coming back to that, what if my reffered friend buys one of the pre-purchase packages?
reef osprey
15%, not 30 ^^
reef osprey
committed sudoku*
onyx knoll
Not much as of yet, no. Secondaries and augments will be expanded upon during alpha 2
meager ferry
quick question about the pack thats out currently, the Hovel of the Faded (the freehold building cosmetic skin) What is this exactly? Is it a skin I can put over any building if my guild / I own the freehold? Or is it a housing skin that I can make my house look like this? Or is it both?
full badger
The Hovel of the Faded skin is a freehold skin for a specific Freehold building. Unfortunately we aren't told specifically which building it is for as we don't know what all the Freehold buildings will be yet. @meager ferry
meager ferry
got it, ok that saves me $25 then. I would have bought it if it was something I can make my house look like xD
thank you for the answer
queen swan
Well, your house counts as one of the freehold buildings, so it could apply to that potentially, but without it specifically saying, youd be taking a risk
meager ferry
ye, and there may be a variation down the road of this skin that should be fine w/ me anyway
once we get more info
With my name being Leafzer, having a tree as a house would be awesome ^_^
bold rampart
Hello, I would like to know if we can both use physical media and digitally fill our creation with the digital model.
reef prawn
wat
solar epoch
Can we draw and photoshop on the same creation
full badger
As long as you don't alter the lines, I don't see why you can't use both traditional and digital art in it @bold rampart
bold rampart
Okay thxs for the answer @full badger and for the correction @solar epoch xD
woeful notch
I come from FFXIV, in ashes have they said if we can expect some raids to be on par or harder than Ultimates?
full badger
@woeful notch It's hard to tell just how difficult the raids in Ashes will be until later down the line. The devs definitely want "hard" PvE content but that is rather subjective. We likely won't get a solid idea of the raid difficulty until beta when all the classes have been implemented and the majority of the balancing happens
woeful notch
Makes sense, i hope there is, having extremely hard, well made, content i personally always enjoy
desert ivy
A lot of the difficulty of raids will most likely also come from competing with other players inside the raids
woeful notch
Yeah i heard that things will scale, but i think having 1 or 2, maybe just 1 that is just absolutely brutal late game content that takes weeks to just learn the mechanics provides something to aspire to and proves to be a major accomplishment. Like in FF youd get very glowy weapons that were easily recognizable so you got some clout 
marble basin
Can embers be used to purchase the shop items on the aoc website?
steady ocean
Embers will be used for the in game cosmetic shop after launch
marble basin
Aha!
sullen bay
Will the adaptive difficulty on raiding be solely dictated off of how fast you clear levels/rooms or will there be other mechanics at play as well?
Possibly a dumb question lol
steady ocean
multiple factors
Speed you clear it, number of players attacking the boss, possibly team comp, we don't have the specifics just speculation. But we do know multiple factors
sullen bay
That is so awesome haha thanks!
daring geyser
How will stealth work? Will it be exclusive to players who pick rogue as a primary class or will it come with rogue secondary classes as well? For example, will shadowcasters have the same level of stealth as nightspells?
desert ivy
Only rogue primary. Secondaries don't give any new skills
Stealth is currently not "true invisibility", so you can see people who are stealthing if you look. Kinda like Camo in Halo
stable plover
I think the last we heard only rogue primary for permanent stealth with other primary archetypes possibly getting temporary stealth access - You could find footage of the invisibility animation in APOC which was also used as the predator stealth animation in the Art of War video.
amber otter
Will there be simple 'stat checking' classes?
stable plover
In terms of optimal rotation some classes will likely naturally be easier to play than others, but hasn't been stated as a design goal to (avoid/deliberately) smooth class complexity compared to each other as far as I know.
sly monolith
eu site not up yet or?
spiral pine
its not up yet
sly monolith
cheers
modest kite
Is the crafting & gathering system a "click here and wait x seconds" system? Or are there like minigames one has to accomplish in order for quality to raise etc?
full badger
What we've seen so far has just been "press e on a plant and your character harvests it"
oak depot
@modest kite for crafting there will be various knobs to turn to try to achieve specific affects. These will be largely “recipe” based.
onyx knoll
mh, I don't think there was any RNG in the crafting?
modest kite
Hm.. was hoping to see something as creative as how FFXIV did it 🤔
onyx knoll
you can turn the knobs to get the stats you want, there is no RNG that I know of for anything other then overenchanting but that's not really crafting
oak depot
For gathering as @full badger said, you press E. Better quality chance with use of better quality tools for gathering
And yes. Sorry, no small RNG in crafting. That’s in Enchanting and some Processing
spiral pine
ff14 is annoying
oak depot
They mentioned in Animal Husbandry that if you breed two animals that have a certain recessive gene you have a 25% of that recessive appearing in the outcome (like real life genetics do). Animal Husbandry is a Processing Branch though.
modest kite
@spiral pine still better and way more creative than: press 1 button and wait, feels like a waste of time and we had that system way too many times. It's unengaging and just stale/boring
spiral pine
and timing button clicks is creative and fun
desert ivy
FF14s is decent the first few times, but after the 10000 time you just wanna blow your brains out
onyx knoll
if you want to discuss the pros and cons of various systems, please take it to #aoc-discussion
oak depot
Don’t forget. They had timing button clicks in 2017.
desert ivy
I'd prefer an AFK crafting system than that
charred sierra
Whats the number of members a guild can have? And does that number expand as the guild advances in levels?
desert ivy
30-50 at the start. 300 max if they decide to put points into expansion instead of other abilities
charred sierra
300 people in a guild chat? 😮
crystal beacon
It's a possibility but it means that you have to miss on some very nice boosts for the whole guild, so it's like you have to choose for quality or quantity or between these 2
lucid compass
well idk if having 50 people whit some buffs could stand against 300 zerg 😅
onyx knoll
They might not only be combat buffs.
it'll depend a lot on what you want your guild to focus on
lucid compass
you can even go then half size half buffs
what the next testing phase? and when it starts?
desert ivy
December 18 - 21 for A1 backers. Under NDA
lucid compass
how do get access to a1?
desert ivy
Can't now unless you win one of the 3 keys from the Pumpkin contest which ends in a few days
Otherwise you'd have to get a time machine and go back in time 2 years when they were still selling keys
lucid compass
i wish there was a time machine XD
desert ivy
And even then the pumpkin keys only give you access to the test in April - May apparently
lucid compass
is there no eta on release date?
lucid compass
isn't it taking to long?
desert ivy
No? It's relatively on track for an MMORPG
It's only been in coding development for 3 and a bit years
lucid compass
and what about access to a2? will it be for same people or there will be some options to buy it?
woven vale
A2 can be bought right now
desert ivy
woven vale
It will be announced when taken off sale
desert ivy
The Voyager and Voyager plus gives access to A2
lucid compass
so it prob go off sale some time before a2 begins?
woven vale
Likely
desert ivy
We don't know when it will go off sale, just that they will give notice when it does
lucid compass
still it gona be some long time till a2 right?:(
woven vale
Yes
desert ivy
Probably a year and a bit or so imo, but that's a pure guess
lucid compass
dang thats long time, there is no other mmorpg out there and ashes still long time away till it can be played 😦
tight socket
its better they take the time to get it right though
lucid compass
true
desert ivy
Elyon will probably release in the west before A2 starts
lucid compass
but ya now how it is, when there is nothing to play time goes so slowly
chrome bear
Is there any special side i need to use to upload a video from my punpkin or is it a decision i can make. Because i cant attach the video to the Post.
oak depot
@desert ivy I though there were 6 keys to win. 3 for physical, 3 for digital pumpkin submission.
desert ivy
As far as I'm aware they don't differentiate between the physical and digital submissions.
dim harness
If I contribute by buying a pre-order pack, when will the next beta be? Or has that ship already sailed?
(probably a dumb question but genuinely curious)
sharp bramble
We have no idea when Beta will be. The only testing currently scheduled is Alpha one
woven vale
Betas won't be happening anytime soon.
dim harness
Noted. Thanks !
empty fjord
Alpha 1 is scheduled to mid 2021, A2 is going to be feature complete by the end of it, so don't expect betas until 2022 or 2023
winter hazel
how much will a full year subscription to the game cost? Will it be 60 bucks?
digital yacht
15x12
steady ocean
$180 USD / whatever that converts to in your area (unless harmonized)
digital yacht
Or depending if they do discounts for buying multiple months up front
winter hazel
oh, i was hoping it would be like wow, where a year is like 6t0 bucks, at least i think it is.
60*
oh ok
fluid jetty
if there are 4 different types of nodes but there will only be 103 different nodes then doesn't that mean there will be an uneven distribution of node types?
steady ocean
Even if the number of nodes was divisible by 4, the nodes could still be skewed based on the devs design. We don’t know how the types will be distributed throughout the world at this time
bold rampart
Hi, is it considered line alteration if i do a slight distortion of the whole digital model for a 3d effect
haughty rune
two categories of questions I have:
- Is there any benefit to having multiple freehold skins? Since you can only have one freehold for account, you would only ever be using one at a time correct? Contrast with pets/armor/mount/caravan skins, which can be used on separate characters.
- How do guild freeholds / guild halls work? Are they considered freeholds, do they use specific hall styles or can they use player freehold skins? Wiki seems to imply guild freehold is something you can have in addition to your regular freehold.
full badger
@haughty rune The freehold skins from the monthly cosmetics are for specific buildings inside the freehold, not the entire thing.
@bold rampart I don't know the answer to that, sorry. Roll the dice I guess and see what happens
haughty rune
Can they apply to any building in the freehold, or only specific ones?
full badger
Only to specific buildings
haughty rune
And are those indicated anywhere in the monthly cosmetics? I don't remember seeing that
woven vale
No.
haughty rune
That seems... important no?
digital yacht
i believe some were at one point but who knows
bold rampart
Hmm, can I at least know how you go about judging if lines have been changed or not? The aspect? Correspondence?
Cause line alteration is vague.
Example, I can change the dimensions of the model keeping the same proportions, but it can be interpreted as a change of line just as it cannot
digital yacht
if ur unsure go on what the rules state, no sense in asking ppl who dont know, u can try to DM Toast but no chance she has time to reply
crystal flax
Toast is on PTO, try DMing Maggie instead for now maybe
reef osprey
what are we even talking about?
crystal flax
@reef osprey Pumpkin contest rule specifications
digital yacht
the pumpkin contest
bold rampart
I read and reread the rules but the answers are not there because there are very few details
digital yacht
it says what? dont alter the lines? then dont alter the lines how hard is that
rigid rose
Do not alter the lines at all. 🙂
digital yacht
if the lines are not there anymore then u wont qualify
if the lines can be seen and u can tell it is the same template u are fine
bold rampart
the question is not if this alteration is accepted but if this Is an alteration
haughty rune
Any answer on the guild halls question?
digital yacht
read what i just said and that is ur answer
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guild_halls @haughty rune
all we know
reef osprey
changing of dimensions does indeed alter the lines.
so it shouldn't be allowed
bold rampart
Not really bc it keep the same proportions
it's like a zoom
If you change the dimensions of a part but not of an other I think it is
digital yacht
ur question has been answered to the best of the communities knowledge. go take this to discussion now
bold rampart
You're answer is different of @reef osprey's one
digital yacht
no1s answer here is Concrete unless its Yellow, cuz atm Reds dont know the specifications of the contest
rigid rose
@bold rampart The digital form cannot be altered, but all the space in and around it can be colored and crafted, you can color inside and out of the lines, but not alter or move those lines.
digital yacht
u get what u get
rigid rose
Resizing or changing of the lines in any way will disqualify.
bold rampart
Well this is an answer thank you
rigid rose
no prob.
gloomy mantle
Have they decided to add another chat for Public Proximity Chat yet?
rigid rose
no.
gloomy mantle
Eventually
rigid rose
there is VC planned for groups/ raids/ and in taverns.
rigid rose
No general proximity chat is planned except for those.
gloomy mantle
Just pop in every now and again to check to see if/when that's added to the roadmap 🙂
chrome bear
please i need an answer: Is it allowed to give up an video for the pumpkin event? I need to make a new one if thats not the case. In that case much days of work gone to waste
i made an 360 degree one and film arround it but now its rotten
not much time left XD
see side 7 Novalis Post on guard contest
stable plover
@chrome bear https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/257283936756039680/765983655629422643 - Toasts comment related to the topic, my interpretation if it is that you can include a video, but should also include a grouping of still images of your pumpkin (which could come from the video I suppose)
chrome bear
ok thanks
queen swan
There will be proximity text chat though, right?
woven vale
So will shout
queen swan
Gotcha. Ok, so you were just saying that there wont be a local voice chat
rigid rose
no general proximity voice chat is planned for everywhere in the world at this time yup.
woven vale
Text chat prox will exist, voice will not
rigid rose
i.e. you are running by someone down the road you can not just say hello as you pass... there are voice chat options for Party/Raid/Guild and Taverns.
queen swan
In a way, being able to just say hi as you pass sounds nice, but that is the happy path scenario. I could also imagine a ton of scenarios where it might be terrible have blanket proximity voice chat lol, so its probably a good idea to restrict it to certain areas.
crude estuary
In 99% of all cases i trust that humans will be garbage. As such proximity chat will be abused to annoy and grief. Its the reason that all games with proxi chat give u the option of muting it.
As such even if it is in the game barely anyone will use it anyways
woven vale
I think proxi chat should be opt in, as I personally want to use it in node sieges.
languid glen
Very noob question... I am trying to upload my images for the pumpkin contest and cant figure out how to attached the image... can someone help me out??
reef osprey
@rigid rose
rigid rose
@languid glen To embed your image all on its own in the thread, you'll need the direct image link! Then, you can select the little picture icon in the top bar of your post and insert the link to have it drop in the image directly.
Alternatively, if you know the direct image link, you can also insert it by using img tags, like so: [img]mypiclink.png[/img] - hope that helps ya out
languid glen
So do i need to put in the pic destination on my computer? Or does it need to be uploaded to another site like imgur then drop the link?
full badger
@languid glen
languid glen
TY Very Much!!
full badger
rancid trail
Will Tank as secondary class allow me to tank to some extent? Will the augments be able to give me extra sustain or threat?
heady ocean
i would also like more info on classes u can combo them but thats too vage
full badger
@rancid trail We don't know yet as we haven't seen any of the augments for the classes
full badger
We likely won't see any augments until they have finished implementing all 8 base archetypes
rancid trail
I know that we don't know any of the augments yet. I was wondering more on class philosophy. I know Tank as Mainclass allows you to tank in every scenario, but what about Tank as secondary? If it doesn't allow you to do tanking tasks to some degree, then I think it's rather dead secondary. Just pick cleric then if sustain is what you want.
full badger
Again, we won't know until we see the augments. If the tank secondary augments add threat generation to the other base archetypes then they will be able to tank as well. If not, then it doesn't matter how "tanky" they are, if they can't hold aggro, they can't tank
rancid trail
Exactly what I was wondering. Thanks.
heady ocean
is it the dollar the only currency currently available?
full badger
@heady ocean Do you mean for buying intrepid packs?
heady ocean
yes
full badger
Yes. If you are buying a pack from outside the US, you'll pay the US price converting to your local currency
heady ocean
ive seen that intrepid will open a studio in EU will we have a EU shop or we still need to convert to dollars?
full badger
There are plans to revamp the current website and add a store for EU, but we don't have an ETA on them yet. I doubt the EU store will appear until they have hired their EU producer and Customer Management staff
heady ocean
i see will the game be delayed for EU players?
yes i know
2 years at least
i think
alright thanks keep up the good work
sharp bramble
Do we know if Rangers will be required to carry arrows? Or if that is something which has been brought up/talked about
desert ivy
No, that isn't a thing as far as we know
woven vale
No ammo, looking for source now.
Can't find it on wiki but I have a feint recollection of Steven on stream saying we won't have ammo.
So uh take that with a grain of salt.
sharp bramble
Yeah I tried to look on wiki before I asked. Appreciate it
sacred lantern
160 days ago:
Paradox_Support
”Some online vendors roll the VAT into the price, some add it on afterwards. Xsolla happens to add it on after.
Intrepid is working on changing processing vendors, but for now it is what it is.”
Any news on how that process is going? The VAT is still the same and it’s huuuge
short flint
I've not heard of any updates. Sorry.
full badger
@sacred lantern We don't have any details on that but I doubt it will happen until after their new website is implemented and they have their new EU staff hired and in place
sacred lantern
So all non-US players have no other option than to pay the expensive VAT to be able to play the alphas? ☹️
desert ivy
Again, you'd still pay the VAT even if it was on the EU store, the VAT would just be included in the price you see on teh website
woven vale
^
sacred lantern
”normalize the price so that EU players and US players see the same price, but at the end of the business transactions the taxes get paid accordingly”
Oh I see, do you know how? Because that seems very strange 😬
And do US players also pay VAT when buying an Intrepid pack?
Ahhh ok, got it now! Thanks alot for the explanation. Also keep up the good vids Jahlon, my hype would never have been this huge without your amazing vids! 😄
young flint
will looting be automatic or manual? If manual is loot locked for player kills or can any combatant take the dropped loot?
brittle ferry
Manual at this point? but I'm sure it's still being worked on and will be through alpha 1 and 2
digital yacht
Dungeon/Raid loot will have ur typical settings
brittle ferry
A mixture of both
digital yacht
open world we are unsure but im guessing its who deals the final blow/deals most dmg to enemy player but we dont know atm what the final will be
harsh grotto
Is there any word yet, if there is a buffer time between declaring your intention to seige and the preparation and locking of resources phase? Curious to know if spies will become a valued resource to give advanced warning to make allies, hire mercenaries or to put resources into transit.
dark jungle
yes
as soon as the siege is declared all node services are suspended
this includes resources and materials that are stored in the node
spies and mercenaries will likely be a thing, particularly with castle sieges
harsh grotto
Mercs more so. Spies would have a greater influence if there was a buffer. So state craft and diplomacy could be used to mitigate numbers.
bright grail
Don't underestimate the League of Street Filth, the most elite spy network in AoC
woven vale
If its known, your spy network isn't the best in the business.
bright grail
Joka u might need to reroll name if you didnt see the neon glow of sarcasm there
meager ferry
Do any of the mods know if there will be a discord channel in this discord for alpha 1 testers to discuss the alpha since we'd be under NDA but still need to post bugs / recreate them? I don't always check the forums but I'd definitely always check discord for announcement/pinned messages of known bugs / found bugs etc.
digital yacht
yea there will be
Forums are for the bug reporting and stuff, discord is just for general chatting
young flint
If I wanted to name my character, X æ a 12, would I be able to do it?
rigid rose
@young flint no.
young flint
Rip. Elon musk is gonna be mad.
bright grail
LOL
mellow lava
So there's the religion system, and it gives buffs and stuff depending on your god. Is it possible to not choose a god to warship? I mean, if you won't choose a religion, will you just not get any benefits and that's it?
upbeat lark
Is there certain classes like Bards for example that will optimize more than others for a full on economy/bank playstyle? and will playing like that even be viable?
lean marlin
@mellow lava Yes, a player can choose to go the athiest route if they want to. I'm not sure if you get things with that or not, but probably not.
mellow lava
@lean marlin Aight. Thanks.
reef osprey
@mellow lava exactly
you can go without a religion, but you also concede the potential benefits coming from them
coarse mulch
Well shit
mellow lava
This is an oppressions of my non-religion. This is unacceptable. I'll go to Reddit.
:(
twin urchin
can there be more then one guild leaders for one guild?
tidal jungle
Is there any way to get to Alpha one testing ? Any backer bundles or ? I found this project too late, and kickstarter is closed :/
lean raptor
Is there any way to get to Alpha one testing ? Any backer bundles or ? I found this project too late, and kickstarter is closed :/
@tidal jungle The only way is if you win The Glorius Gourd Contest which end tomorrow xd. IF you can design a super good looking gourd by tomorrow then you have a chance. All other alpha 1 access is no longer available
onyx knoll
There might be some giveaways during the extra life stream.
tidal jungle
@lean raptor I got a better chance inventing a time-travelling machine and just moving to a releashe date than making some art with my both left hands
@onyx knoll When will it be ? i mean the stream
onyx knoll
We don't have a date for it yet, keep an eye on #news , they'll announce it eventually :)
tidal jungle
@onyx knoll ok thank you 🙂
lucid compass
where to download aoc apocalypse ?
limpid skiff
aoc apocalypse closed long time ago
lucid compass
uh so you cant play it any more?
limpid skiff
y right
lucid compass
dang
limpid skiff
it was just a part of the MMO test
queen swan
aoc apocalypse was used to test a lot of their backend systems that are in development for the MMO, so it was more of a test run than an actual launch of the game. It's not available anymore, but eventually they are likely to open it back up.
lucid compass
uh, ty
queen swan
You can find more info about it here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ashes_of_Creation_Apocalypse
Currently the wiki says that they are likely to open it up for more testing - featuring the castle seige mode and the horde mode - after the alpha-1 (the alpha-1 is slated to end may 6th 2021)
obsidian mauve
can there be more then one guild leaders for one guild?
@twin urchin probably not since flying mounts are limited to guild leaders in particular circumstances. (Eg the guild leader gets access to a flying mount if the guild controls a castle)
lucid compass
Well it might be true for ingame rank in guild. But You always can have More then 1 guild leader that helps whit leading guild. But yea he cant have A guild leader rank in game
rancid trail
Can someone shed some light on the refer-a-friend system? If I refer a friend and they buy subscription to the game, do I gain credit to the game which I can use to buy sub for myself?
quick wind
Can someone shed some light on the refer-a-friend system? If I refer a friend and they buy subscription to the game, do I gain credit to the game which I can use to buy sub for myself?
@rancid trail
Players who refer and invite new players can receive 15% of their account purchases back as Intrepid Bucks.[1]
Intrepid Bucks earned through the Referral program can be used to:
Purchase Embers.
Purchase in-game items from the Cosmetic store.
Reduce subscription costs (to zero).
Obtain cash rewards on a quarterly basis after Ashes of Creation has launched.
Source: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Referral_program
rancid trail
So, Yes?
That's what I was wondering, does buying sub count as a purchase? I get that it applies to cosmetic store.
dire pond
Can anyone help me to put my entry on the gourd contest pls?
rancid trail
Thanks!
tidal kraken
Is in-game music creating and playing mechanics a thing in AoC?
tidal kraken
sullen bay
Do we know who is creating the in game music?
oak depot
@sullen bay https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Music
sullen bay
Thanks!
queen swan
I think i know the answer but just to double check, the barding that is shown on a cosmetic mount skins is part of the skin, yeah? Like, the runic steed has barding that looks like this, so you wouldn't be able to visually show different barding, correct? You can have different barding gear that you equip under the skin, but the skin will always show this barding no matter the gear you equip?
annnd followup question, anyone know if 'visually hiding' your mounts barding will be an option? Kind of like hiding your character's helmet, can you hide your mount's equipment? Cause this mount would be super majestic to just ride bareback 😛
I'm assuming the answers are that, yes, the skin includes the premade barding, and no, you can't hide barding. Considering there are some skins like the radiant stallion that don't display any barding as part of the skin.
spiral pine
i dont think we have gotten info on if we can hide armor for mounts and such
might be a good question for a stream
simple karma
@queen swan If you don't get an accurate answer on discord you can submit it on the forum https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/47071/next-live-stream-q-a-submission-friday-october-30-2020-at-11am-pdt/p1
queen swan
thanks @simple karma
fierce sluice
is there any way to to get access to alpha testing?
woven vale
Alpha 2 you can buy, Alpha 1 is unbuyable.
fierce sluice
i cannot buy any pack in the European site
digital yacht
i cannot buy any pack in the European site
@fierce sluice the European sales are not available for the time being as Intrepid has seperated from My.com and instead decided to publish in EU themselves meaning the shop is a WIP with no known dates on coming up, definitely sometime before March 2021 would be my guess(incase they sell alpha 1 access again)
urban axle
To be honest, don't rush into trying to get into Alpha 1 testing guys.. If you're looking at it for an opportunity to see the game itself, just wait... The idea is to help polish the system, improve on the foundation that they have created and find/report bugs that could be game breaking or major issues down the line. If you're gonna play the game without those intentions, in mind - it could be a let down for you and will be better to wait a bit and see how the game continues to unfold 🙂
Keep the hype strong, but remember - its a testing phase.
velvet spear
Alpha 1's are fun if you go in expecting a ton of bugs. It's like playing Vanilla Skyrim and everything has a chance of launching you like a giant
hearty yew
I don't know if we were already told this and I'm sorry if that is so, but I have a friend who sadly only plays on Ps so will there be cross-platforming?
hearty yew
ok thanks for the info.
tulip hatch
There may be console support in the future but that would be sometime after launch, no cross platform has been mentioned as of yet
Can ask in the livestream to see if they may consider it or not
hearty yew
thx
fickle abyss
Since it's using unreal the engine is capable of a relatively easy port depending on jow much they decide to modify it. From what I understand it's primarily net code that's proprietary. That being said making the controls work on console controllers is a must do if they go that route and that could get complicated fast. @hearty yew
hearty yew
Thank you all for helping^^
spiral pine
they do have limited controller support already
reef osprey
controller support is happening already
inland kayak
@fierce sluice they giving away alpha1 keys during extra life. https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2020-10-26-extra-life
reef osprey
@simple ether you are right.
The quote i've had in mind was the A1 for the BR
gaunt ferry
To the people that have access to the game... How is it so far?
May ask what NDA means @simple ether
aa i see
oke then um
i wanna ask 2 things
So 1st: How is the performance do you need like a good pc in order to play?
2nd: Is it possible to play the game right now or is only available to like streamers and close friends/partners of Intrepid Studios ?
Thanks
Ouch the reccomended are already that good. Thats good for the game but bad for me xd
woven vale
Tbf 1060 is cyberpunks rec, and most newer games
cosmic belfry
@gaunt ferry Maybe not. Right now it's very much about testing mechanics, finding bugs etc as the game is no where near the final product... not really playing the game. Unless you really wanted to test for the sake of testing, but if playing is the goal probably better to wait for Betas and later 🙂
gaunt ferry
Yea sure thing im not going to touch the game as it is for a few reasons i can wait for it
harsh grotto
Just means you’ll want to drop a slider or 2. As it is, my potato is almost recommended and it’s 3 years old. Curse my GTX 1050.
woven vale
@harsh grotto cries in 965m laptop gang
harsh grotto
Upside. It have a z35 to see how good it looks with sliders down. 😂
gaunt ferry
So while i wait for the game to release i have about 2 years to make a new PC
woven vale
Well good luck to you guys and your new pcs lol, I'm personally waiting for the 3070 laptops/3080s. Anyhow take further discussion to #general-discussion please!
gaunt ferry
sory
1 last question
about the sub system (like WoW). So... in WoW you buy the subscription as always every month right?
But you can also buy some type of Coin with gold
woven vale
Ashes will have sub but not expac cost like WoW.
harsh grotto
And no box price either
woven vale
WoW Coin won't exist, referrals will be the only way to have something similar.
gaunt ferry
okep
Thanks for the answers guys keep up the good work i will watch from the shadows 🙃
harsh grotto
With the current cosmetics packs they have been releasing. I won’t be surprised to see some bundles released with multiple months worth of subs.
So fishing..... it is just a cast and wait as it cycles the action or is it a mini game IE sea of thieves, vanguardSOH style?
woven vale
cosmic belfry
@harsh grotto https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Fishing lots of stuff there already 🙂
@woven vale beat me to it ^^
harsh grotto
Thank goodness. Do love me some fishing to pass the time and make some coin.
gaunt ferry
YAY no AFK fishing that's dope. Although im wondering if there is going to be any Role-playing players/servers
woven vale
No server types
Every server is a PVP/RP/PVE
Rpers will likely have unofficial nodes that they group up in.
gaunt ferry
hmmm also i heard that the game was open world PvP isnt that going to chrush new player experience ? Like a max lvl player/guild go camp outside starting areas.
has open world PVP*
gaunt ferry
Ok last question of the day. Any of you know the game Black Dessert (remastered) ?
woven vale
Yes, a good portion of us do, and a smaller portion have played it. @gaunt ferry Why?
gaunt ferry
Ok so when you join a guild there is like a contract
does or will Ashes of Creation have it? (It's used to "Pay" guild members some gold)
silver*
severe coyote
I believe you can invest in your guild so to speak. If your guild takes a node and you invest into it and it starts to thrive you'll be rewarded so you kind of get payouts based on your guilds performance in managing/holding that node. Thats my understanding anyway
woven vale
^ From my knowledge that is the guild giving YOU money
Not you giving the guild money
Though they could do ESO pay guild taxes or be kicked.
gaunt ferry
ye like a reqguest from the supreme guild leader/officers? if we are going to have
Not you giving the guild money
@woven vale yea obviously the quest is how is the guild earning that money probalby from raids/sieges/node wars and guild wars i assume
anyways thanks for all the info the community is already good i hope it wont become toxic like some other games >.>
woven vale
It's bound to happen, all we can do is minimize it.
gaunt ferry
o yea now that you said that i remembered from a previous question i had about the corruption system
woven vale
Go ahead.
gaunt ferry
so lets say im in the woods farming wood.
and a guy comes to kill me i drop some items of mine right?
ok so why would i be "punished" like that if i mind my own buisiness and lose an item just like that
that beeing said im not corrupt of course
woven vale
To encourage you to fight
hidden urchin
It's a quasi survival game
gaunt ferry
i see
hmmmm
this is tricky i guess i could pay people for protection
which brings us to "roleplay" this is very exiting
woven vale
People are already setting up merc guilds for farming/caravans
gaunt ferry
^ perfect
ok so basicly a corrupted comes to me to attack i defend myself and if i kill him im not going to be corrupted gotcha
woven vale
Yes once you're both combatants no penalties
However, if he's corrupted you're free to attack him
Even if he's minding his business
gaunt ferry
wont i get copupted tho?
reef osprey
@gaunt ferry no corruption if both sides are combatants
woven vale
Yes.
gaunt ferry
Anyways thanks again for your time guys see ya around 🙂
harsh grotto
Will it be possible to utilise crafting equipment at another’s players freehold? Or some form of public access crafting area? Some friends and I are looking at the idea of a nomadic group of explorers/hunters/traders/crafters and if that is feasible
full badger
The nodes will have public access crafting stations, but I don't know about freeholds. That would be an interesting question to ask for the next livestream @harsh grotto
harsh grotto
Indeed. If some form of friends permissions will be possible, it’ll mean making friends in each major outpost and setting up trade relations.
sharp bramble
@harsh grotto "Shared access
Players may grant shared access to certain freehold services to a limited number of other players, such as access to their processing centers.[61]"
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Freeholds Under freehold security. Not sure if that entails only a limited number of people allowed access or not. But, not sure if that also allows crafting or if it'll be added specifically
harsh grotto
Thanks. Trying to look at logistic related to a nomadic guild. No point in staying in one place when there will be so much to explore.
faint tendon
Heya, is there anyone that can answer questions about the glorious gourd contest?
steady ocean
Ask away, and we may just be able to!
faint tendon
I'm just wondering what the rules are for submitting multiple pics in the one entry, I have some good pics but what are imo the best either have the nameplate a bit blurry or no nameplate at all
I was curious to if could submit them all including the ones with my nameplate fully and clearly visible
steady ocean
As long as it is the same pumpkin, Toast has mentioned previously you can include multiple pictures from different angles. I'd probably try to include your name plate in each.
faint tendon
Awesome, I'll try catch her when she's online and ask if my submissions are ok
onyx knoll
She's off today, and the contest's deadline is tomorrow
So I'd submit it now if you haven't already
faint tendon
sorry, another weird question. how does one embed an image properly on the forums? i'm trying the embed image button but nothing happens when i paste the URL. There's no confirm button or anything showing up
full badger
full badger
no worries
low path
I have another question about the wonderful gourd contest, I think I read somewhere that only the content within the pumpkin outline on the digital entry was being evaluated, and that all content outside of it, whether it be decorations or what not were purely aesthetic and did not contribute to the chance an entry has of winning. I just want to confirm that that is in fact the case
full badger
As far as I'm aware, everything on the page gets evaluated
low path
Is there anyway you could confirm that for me?
cosmic vale
Hello. I'm brand new to Ashes of Creation, and the game looks really incredible. I'm brand new to MMORPG's, so I might be missing some obvious answers. A few questions I have:
How does the subscription work? If it's free-to-play, then why is there a $15 subscription? What does the subscription do?
From there, what do I do about the class system? It seems like such a massive commitment to only be able to pick one. Is there a chance to experiment with the various classes? It seems like it would really suck for your class to be nerfed after you put a ton of time into it. Will there be some ability to demo various classes before picking them, and do I need to worry about what the optimal classes are?
Is trade a factor in this game? Can I, like, open a business where I craft and trade weapons & stuff?
How relevant is cooperation in this game? I know there's guilds, but could I, say, party up with 3 friends and play together for a few hours without really needing to coordinate, or would we be split up by character-specific quests and stuff? I know that you can assemble a squad for raids and that kinda thing, but can I partner up with a friend on the fly, and still be productive?
onyx knoll
@low path "Note: You must use the digital template provided in its original, unaltered format in order for your digital submission to be valid. You may color inside and/or outside the lines however you wish, but do not alter the lines!"
The fact that they specify you can draw outside the lines leads me to believe that it'll be taken into account
I can try asking Maggie but their day has ended so we might not get an answer in time
low path
Alright, thankyou for your help
looks like my night just got a lot more full
digital yacht
@cosmic vale
- Sub Fee is cost of game
- Main Class is unchangeable, Secondary Archetype is changable in bgame, with multiple character slots u should be fine
- Yes
- Yes, But guilds will be main focus as PvP is focused around 8man groups instead of 1v1s
onyx knoll
@cosmic vale The game isn't free to play, it's a sub-based with no box cost. So you don't need to buy the base game but you will need to pay the sub
ruby swift
You might be confused by APOC, which was billed as F2P, but is a discontinued testing bed that featured action combat on Steam.
cosmic vale
Ok, that makes sense. I was a bit confused, since a lot of people were calling it f2p. Thanks for the help.
Oh, and one more thing - for playing with friends, is distance an issue? I heard that fast travel options were super minimal, so if I'm on one side of the world and my pal is on another, could we still get together to try to grind a quest or level up or smth?
small pecan
You heard correctly! Can check through https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Fast_travel
Family summoning might be of note for you!
woven vale
Or you just take the trip, but yeah you can meet up, may take a bit of work depending if its travel and not fam summon
cosmic vale
Hmm, ok. So it's a lot more of a struggle to just play with a friend on the fly, then. How does family summon work? Do I need to be a specific class to use it? How can I add someone to my family?
digital yacht
nah just add ppl with ur family
think the number we have is 8 total
but dont know if u can add/remove i would assume not
cosmic vale
Ok, that makes it a bit more realistic. So I can just have a group of up to 7 friends and just teleport them to me whenever I cast the spell? That sounds super nice.
digital yacht
itll have a decent CD from what we know
woven vale
It'll have a cooldown to avoid abuse.
cosmic vale
Yeah. I'm not sure what I think about just moving a huge group across the map with little to no cost to me
desert ivy
And I wouldn't be surprised if it got heavily nerfed/changed during alphas and betas since Steven has said they're gonna keep a very very close eye on it
cosmic vale
Maybe an easy way to balance it would be to make it so that once you go too far from your family, you get teleported back to your initial position?
That way it's not just free fast travel
woven vale
#aoc-discussion , Also that would lead to zerging in pvp, my main concern
cosmic vale
Pardon my lack of MMO knowledge, but Zerging? Isn't that an annoying enemy or something?
steady ocean
Zerging is a tactic where the enemy tries to overwhelm you with numbers.
woven vale
So family summons could make an 8v8 into a 64v8 in a flash
cosmic vale
Oh, that sounds really dumb.
queen swan
can you summon your whole family at once?
cosmic vale
I guess you could just slap a massive cooldown/startup on it? Like, you have to charge it for 5 mins or something to use it
So that way it's not just an ez panic button
woven vale
@queen swan We don't know. That is just a possibility if unbalanced.
queen swan
"Rank 1
Long duration cast (30 seconds to a minute) with an approximate 30 minute cooldown that slowly summons each of your family members to your location (up to eight members).[1][5] Players cannot be summoned in the following cases:
While in combat, if they are corrupted, or if they are engaged in an event, such as node wars, guild wars, sieges, arenas or participation in the caravan system.[6]
If they have mats, gatherables or certs in their inventory.[3]
This will be tested in Alpha-2.[4]"
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Family_summon
woven vale
Ah, so they can be summoned all at once.
The CD and channel is negligible. Just start out a fair distance away or send 2-3 to harras while the others fam summon. Could result in quick response guild teams. I dunno, hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
queen swan
yeah, and not to start the discussion here:
but the whole family summon thing is tough, because people would also be upset if there was absolutely no easy way to group up with a friend. because as you said @cosmic vale , whether or not it's, "a struggle to just play with a friend on the fly", matters to people. So if you have any thoughts about how to make it work and feel good, feel free to start up a chat in #aoc-discussion 🙂
full badger
The family summoning system will be tested extensively before the game is released to make sure it can fulfil its purpose without be abused too much
harsh grotto
Yep. Fingers crossed it holds. I only want it so I can team up with my kids.
bright grail
I would like a family banish system so I can send my annoying nephew across the world
And yes i know I am a bad person
cosmic vale
You just need to hit the "send to brazil" button
harsh grotto
Wait. If that’s an option I’m going to Brazil and leaving the kid behind.
buoyant fable
👀
harsh grotto
Will there or is there deity options for clerics flavour? Or is it a one pantheon fits all thing?
bright grail
i am pretty sure that is a thing , deity options i mean
harsh grotto
Will religion have any in game effect on player choices/options , or is it purely a flavour option that will mainly suit RPers?
Excellent. Generic cleric seems a little empty otherwise.
daring geyser
Playing a high priest and going all in on a religion will definitely be something that role players will have lots of fun with
reef veldt
When new items come indo the store do we have to buy them as packages or can we buy them individually?
digital yacht
if u bought the previous package u can buy the items seperately
cosmic vale
How long are the alphas/betas for? I'm considering buying a package to let me get access to the alphas/betas, but if it's just for, like, a month, I don't think it's worth it
lean marlin
We have no idea on the length of any of them except for A1 to an extent. A2-B2 are completely unknown variables at this time. But yes, A2 is supposed to be persistent some what akin to a PTR.
digital yacht
How long are the alphas/betas for? I'm considering buying a package to let me get access to the alphas/betas, but if it's just for, like, a month, I don't think it's worth it
@cosmic vale Betas will be actual betas meaning very short tests close to launch
queen swan
and alphas are actual dev alphas - if you're looking to access it so that you can play the game for fun but just early, then they aren't what you're expecting.
cosmic vale
Hrm, ok. It's probably not a good investment for me, then. Thank you.
This game is seriously still 2-3 years from release?!?
queen swan
yeah, it's really all about testing, squashing bugs, and letting people get in and test functionality to give feedback
analog saddle
Will player data be wiped before release with alpha and beta?
digital yacht
This game is seriously still 2-3 years from release?!?
@cosmic vale A2 will be ur best bet into playing the game early, it will be up mostly 24/7 and include most of the games main mechanics 🙂
Will player data be wiped before release with alpha and beta?
@analog saddle yes
it will be fresh launch
steady hill
They will be giving a1 keys away from the november 7th 24 hour stream
cosmic vale
Wow. It seems so finished already. I can't believe there's still 2-3 more years' worth of content
queen swan
and yeah - alpha 1 won't be done until mid next year. So 2022 realease at BEST, but not likely
cosmic vale
What's the competition like to get an A1 key?
I'm not sure I like my chances against, like, 3000 others
Lol
steady hill
its not Competetion
steady hill
You will just be randomly picked
O
U mean that one
You can also get a1 keys from the nov7 24 hour livestream if ur lucky
cosmic vale
Dang. Do the A1 keys carry over to give you access to A2?
steady hill
no
steady hill
I would think a1 keys only go to a1 and a2 keys only go to a2
cosmic vale
Males sense
deep sleet
Anyone know how to submit a photo for the glorious gourd contest
digital yacht
post the image in discord and copy that link
full badger
deep sleet
Ah thanks that’s what I needed
digital yacht
so much more work when u can just copy discord link Lol
low path
I know its a little late, but can I invert the color of the text on the digital template for the gourd contest, and remove the white background? Ive seen a few others do this on the forums
devout nymph
Trying to get the BBC code but can't seem to figure it out
[img]~image link~[/img]
Right?
full badger
@devout nymph You should just be able to post the BCC code directly into the reply and it should recognise it
dire pond
Trying to get the BBC code but can't seem to figure it out
@devout nymph add jpg at the end
[img]~image link.jpg[/img]
devout nymph
I'll try both and see ty!!
I think the prob is I'm on mobile and don't get the options from the visual diagram about posting.
With it method it just looks like this
Friendly
dire pond
Did you add the code at the end and beginning?
![https://imgur.com/3QJ4vik.jpg[/img]](https://imgur.com/3QJ4vik.jpg%5B/img%5D){kind=link}
devout nymph
Idk why I have an /a/
dire pond
Delete it?
low path
hmm I just did what FriendlyNeighbour did and it worked for me
devout nymph
I deleted the /a/ and it freaked out.
I just uploaded it on discord and used that link and it worked without an issue. Idk maybe mobile imgur app is weird.
Ty for the help :D
dire pond
There are some pretry great pumpkin this year
tepid dock
Are there going to be player transformations like in The Elder Scrolls Online with the vampire and werewolf
full badger
@tepid dock unknown at this time, although unlikely I'd say
tepid dock
yeah seems unlikely but worth asking i guess
wide schooner
can you zoom into "first person" mode? if you can, will it be an actual first person player controller (like ESO), or will it just be a fake "first person" camera hack (like archeage)?
desert ivy
Fake
No animations for first person mode
But you can zoom in as if looking through your eyes. Just won't have animations or be able to see your arms etc
daring geyser
What benefits (if any) will there be on doubling down on your class? The reason I ask is because I can’t help but wonder if the meta will exclusively consist of the “pure” classes, since I remember reading that doubling down is how you “get the most” out of your archetype. Furthermore, the pure classes seem to have names that imply a slight level of superiority, such as “archwizard” “high priest” “weapon master” etc. I guess a way I could rephrase this is will the min-maxers be bound to pure archetypes?
full badger
@daring geyser the main principle is that having the same primary and secondary class will make you more specialised and effect at your primary role, whereas having a different secondary class will "blur the lines" between the roles. Of course, since we haven't seen any of the secondary classes and augments in action, it's hard to tell just what this means in a practical sense
autumn sapphire
Will this game see addon support?
daring geyser
No
full badger
No, there won't be any addons, dps meters or API for Ashes @autumn sapphire
autumn sapphire
:(
ok
At least I won't have to worry about updating them all the time or making sure I install the right/best ones
Or hot-swapping them for different content
wooden coral
Addons always kill immersion for me. Im glad
lean raptor
Most addons are quality of life stuff and making up for the games lacking features. So if aoc does a good job at that then addons are not necessary at all
daring geyser
I think a solid measure of an MMO is the ability to perform at the highest level while still feeling like you’re actually you’re character and not a person in the real world pushing buttons to achieve optimal numbers
*of an MMO’s quality
lean raptor
I was not referring to dps meters. I was talking about addons like for example bartender addon in wow which let's you customize your hotbar
steady ocean
The UI will already be highly customizable
As was mentioned, the devs will be trying to incorporate things in the game so we will not need addons (they won't be supported)
lean raptor
Yup my point exactly. If aoc has good customization and quality of life features implemented in the game already then addons will not be missed
wide schooner
add on for baby, only add on that was ever not for baby is immersive mount for eso
rigid gate
Does anyone know how impactful racial choices will be, that isn't just cosmetic. abilities , passive , +stats ?
digital yacht
Different stat allocations nothing major but minimal changes
desert ivy
Races have racial augments as well which can be applied to skills and stuff
rigid gate
So they are trying to avoid meta choices?
digital yacht
Yes but there will always be a meta with min maxers
rigid gate
Of course People need an easy mode to every game , Thanks
strong night
ppl need an easy mode? what? lol
rigid gate
Meta makes games easier for you Ofc
strong night
not really
itll be such small percentages idk how you could say that about meta racials lol
rigid gate
depends on how they are implemented of course.
digital yacht
Class metas won’t be as impactful in this game as it’s balanced based on 8 man parties, so u could follow the top tier meta dmg mage build and win 1v1s easy but if u don’t have team coordination the other team will easily win
rigid gate
Awesome , makes the support role have a bigger impact to team building
strong night
if the game lets you win 1v1s easy just going a meta build then its a bad game. idk any mmo where skill doesnt matter more in pvp than picking a meta build.
rigid gate
Classic Wow , 1 shot kill buttons
strong night
pve dps is only thing its really an issue and even then its only min maxers
rigid gate
I think Dps will be less important without addons right?
strong night
classic wow is old af and a novelty more than anything.
ruby swift
Please take any discussion to the discussion channels. This is for questions and answers.
digital yacht
Dps is always important lol
rare fable
Hi All! i was just on the site and perusing the social media for this game, and I am unable to find any concrete information; it seems like Alpha One phase is going on right now; Alpha 2 will begin in December? If i purchase the game now (preorder), will i not gain access until December? thank you ahead of time!
desert ivy
Alpha 1 Preview starts in December, actual Alpha 1 starts in April. There is no date for Alpha 2 yet.
you currently cannot get access to alpha 1
rare fable
@desert ivy ahhh thank you! and with that, my purchase today would only count towards access towards alpha 2?
desert ivy
Yes
rare fable
ahh gotcha, thank you!
desert ivy
The Voyager (and Voyager Plus) Pack will give you access to Alpha 2, Beta 1, and Beta 2 but there isn't a way atm to access Alpha 1. They may reopen sales for A1 in the future if they need more testers.
rare fable
@desert ivy thank you so much for the information! i appreciate it! looks like ive gotta wait until... tbd unfortunately haha 😅
vestal veldt
Will the A1 from April to May be open for everyone?
desert ivy
None of the alpha/beta phases are free. They all require you to buy in
crystal beacon
How do i log in to aoc forum?
digital yacht
Same details as ur regular account
plucky pawn
Yup, the SSO login for the forums means you should log in with your regular Intrepid account credentials (username and password) when prompted!
fickle wigeon
for the roleplay side, will some of the classes counts as forbidded like warlock or necromencer
so if you try to use some of the specific skills like resurrecting dead or summoning a demon would make you a criminal in the city
unless its accepted as a part of the religion
digital yacht
99% sure there is nothing like that/hasn’t been talked about but prob not planned
desert ivy
Yea that's not a thing
fickle wigeon
can archbishop decide those things if he wants to?
digital yacht
No prob not
lean marlin
@fickle wigeon That would require a lot of lore for anyone to be able to make a definite statement on. Currently we have bread crumbs with some chunks but nowhere near all of the lore. As of right now it's not something that any of us can define.
Now if you're asking this simply on a per character concept, like how in ESO Necro stuff was supposed to make guards and people aggro you, no. That's not something that is a thing.
fickle wigeon
can laws of the city change based on the authorties orders
desert ivy
There aren't laws
Guards will attack corrupted players or players that attack other players in the city
But there is no jail system or anything
fickle wigeon
can we worship other than 7 order?
lucid compass
Then how it Will be dealt whit so caled pirates?
desert ivy
There aren't any pirates
At least not officially
of course people can roleplay as pirates, but there is no pirate faction like in ArcheAge
fickle wigeon
what about bandits
desert ivy
Same as what I wrote
No bandits, but sure you can roleplay
There's a thieves guild you can join, so there will be certain "societies"
but no bandits or pirates guild from what we know
lucid compass
Yea i mean pirates as kiling they own nation people to rob them
fickle wigeon
does that mean there is a mercenary guild or is it just thieves
lucid compass
Not as a nation it self
desert ivy
The only societies we know of so far are Thieves, Scholars Academy, and Traders Company
There aren't any nations
Players are different races but there are no factions or nations that differentiate them
Players who kill others will become corrupted if they kill non-combatants
But it's not supposed to be a playstyle since corruption is purely negative basically
fickle wigeon
can we hide our identity?
digital yacht
No
desert ivy
No
tranquil willow
What happens if a player of an enemy node goes into your City? Do the guards attack?
lean marlin
We're going to assume that it's war time in this situation. So assuming they even get to the guards, probably?
woven vale
The only time a player would be of an 'enemy node' would be a node war. Which would likely result in the guards attacking. In any other case npcs wouldn't recognize them as hostile if it was just a political non-game system enemy citizen.
@tranquil willow
onyx knoll
Unless the mayor specifically declared that player as an enemy of the state
tranquil willow
Ah ok, thanks
digital yacht
All nodes are technically neutral so ur free to go anywhere as long as there isn’t war between the two
crystal beacon
can i submit an entry for glorious gourd contest few minutes past deadline?
desert ivy
Doubt it
woven vale
Probably not, but you can try.
loud dagger
Does anyone know when and where the winners for the gourd contest will be announced?
digital yacht
The stream
On Halloween
And their website
@plucky pawn if the winner of the contest already has access to A1 can that access be given away to someone?
plucky pawn
When we reach out to the winners we'll determine whether or not some other accommodation may need to be made for some of the prizing @digital yacht
crystal beacon
and the thread was closed
digital yacht
Okie
plucky pawn
Sorry friend, submissions ended right at 11AM PT as mentioned!
crystal beacon
I know, i tried my best to be on time
it took me a whole week to make
is there no chance?
plucky pawn
Sorry friend, deadlines are deadlines!
We gave you a whole month's worth of notice when it would close so you could be prepared on time, and even reminded you a few times 😅 gotta be fair to everyone!
crystal beacon
6 hours a day for over a week for nothing...
i was about to submit it
it cut me while i was writing a post
IN THE WORST MOMENT
20 more seconds and i have would submitted it :c
the worst day of my life so far
slow mortar
oh dear 😦
crystal beacon
i wasted so much time and energy
Since so much work went for this, at least i'm going to share it
digital yacht
@crystal beacon ur in the questions channel not the rant channel :/
crystal beacon
ik
digital yacht
It means take it to the discussion channels
crystal beacon
i don't want to think (discuss even more) about it anymore, cuz the longer i think, the worse it gets
celest moat
Is there a list of streamers/youtubers who will live stream during alfa tests?
digital yacht
A lot of ppl will
woven vale
As soon as NDA is gone, Asmon, Summit, Jahlon, BCG, and more
digital yacht
Shroud
woven vale
Yeah, forgot about shroud
digital yacht
Timthetatman
celest moat
nice
digital yacht
Everyone will hop on it
woven vale
Tim may not. I dunno though.
Do you think Jahlon will make S tier content?
@simple ether
mellow beacon
HI just heard of this game and it sounds grat but is there an idea when this game will come out? I was thinking this game will come out in 2022 or 2021
cosmic belfry
@mellow beacon No dates for release, we are just about to get into Alpha 1. Optimistic would be late 2022, but most likely 2023. However, all conjectures until we are further along in the process.
Meanwhile, you can sink your teeth into this for more info 😉 https://ashesofcreation.wiki/ - https://ashes101.com/
mellow beacon
Thanks guys 3 year wait doesnt sound too bad also why are people already forming guilds this early?
lean marlin
Preemptive measure mostly. Some are from other games coming here.
cosmic belfry
Planning & sharing. But the game, while viable as a solo player, is heavily centered on social interactions and group play, so the sooner you get with like-minded gamers, the better your experience will be 🙂
mellow beacon
ahhhh ok im not really a hardcore player so ill try and find a nice laidback guild. In 2023 I'll probs in in Phyisican Assistant school so probs cant sink my life into this game which is unfortunate lol
fervent hamlet
Are region transfers going to exist?
hearty dragon
So how does dying work in this game? do you have a respone time, have to find where your body is an rez that way, or do you have to make a new character all together..
glad sleet
@hearty dragon https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_death
full badger
Your character respawns but we don't have a lot of details about it yet
Wherever that may be
buoyant sapphire
I believe which respawn point you go to is semi-randomized as well, isn't it? So that you can't be spawncamped, because that's something that'd happen if you only ever went to the nearest one.
Aha, thanks for clarifying.
woven vale
@simple ether Could you clarify on normal is nearest and corrupted is random. For corrupted on death does it choose a random spawn in the area to prevent friendlies killing you?
Alright thanks!
tall glade
Where can i download or is that not possible yet?
plucky pawn
@tall glade we've been keeping that link above updated with our latest test plans! as we get closer to testing, we also email you out all the details you need to join in
tall glade
thanks:)
dull fog
what is the max party size ?
woven vale
8 is a group
dull fog
yeah that would make sense since there are 8 classes
dull fog
yeah i heard it was 5 groups of 8 for raids
woven vale
vapid sinew
do we know what's going to be in the next devstream yet or no?
shrewd edge
Will it be on steam?
vapid sinew
no
dull fog
so if u and ur friends pick different races , you'll have different starting areas right ?
woven vale
no any race any gate
crisp holly
There will be a starting area for each race but Tulnar and anyone can go to any gate/starting area
surreal elk
Joka is correct, it has been changed to any race any gate.
dull fog
Kk thanks
kind yacht
Will you be able to have multiple characters? I think I remember there being a limit of 1 per server (may be wrong on that), but never heard about accountwise
kind yacht
Ok, cool. Was a little worried about that. I'm assuming different servers for each?
kind yacht
Cool. Thanks
stray current
Especially for us alt-oholics.
small turret
considering the time to max level, dont think AOC will be very alt-friendly lol
calm wyvern
why can't AoC have the different creatures with different "perks" and movement abilities such as "wallclimbing" or "jumping" and maybe have creatures that can only fly for a limited time (referencing GW2 mounts though it may be a copyright problem)
onyx knoll
we do have gliding mounts, and mounts will have various skills and abilities tho we don't have info on the specifics yet
calm wyvern
I look forward to a rabbit type mount that can jump REALLY high
onyx knoll
I don't know if it'll go that far, but we'll see 🙂
calm wyvern
Thank you
uneven valley
that's a thing in guild wars, for what it's worth
ancient charm
Will NPC's be killable?
digital yacht
yes
ancient charm
THANK LUCI
digital yacht
atleast we know guards can be attacked
im sure that means other NPCs too
mayne some will be unkillable but we dont knw yet
ancient charm
Gotcha
grand abyss
ashe of creation release date ?
digital yacht
no official date
sometime late 2022 is community guess
early 2023 probs
we are in Alpha 1 starting in March 2021
reef osprey
2024
lean raptor
Wouldn't be surprised if it released in 2024 tbh, but I think mid/late 2023
meager ferry
Yea, i agree with the 2023 release date to keep in mind but also it depends on how well alpha testing goes. It is not out of the ballpark to be hopeful for a 2022 release date.
ruby swift
half thorn
Early 2023 hopefully
tranquil willow
If covid doesn't get resolved soon, no shot
celest moat
According to wiki not all classes/archetypes will be available in a1, only: Cleric, Fighter, Mage, Ranger, and Tank.
But since a1 will be shown in Dec, Feb and March is there a chance to see Bard, Rogue, and Summoner in Feb/March?
full badger
@celest moat We don't know for sure, but it's unlikely.
ruby swift
The plan so far is 5 at the start of A1, all 8 base archetypes by end of A1.
Just because the timeline shows a month long test, does not mean that there won't be further A1 testing after that. They will assess as needed.
cosmic belfry
I could not find on the wiki, is there a limit to how many citizen can be part of a node ? I would assume the higher level the node, the more citizen it can accommodate. But couldn't find a quote about that
full badger
@cosmic belfry Right now, node citizenship is tied to player housing, and there is a finite amount of housing available in a node
cosmic belfry
in node yes, but since you van be citizen with a freehold, and these are in the surrounding open world, is there then a limitation on how many freehold can be built around a node ? if not then housing isn't a limiting factor
tulip hatch
freeholds are limited yes
Like all housing its cap increases with node level increasing
Apartments get the bonus of being able to build more
cosmic belfry
would you have a quote on that ? i'm searching in the wiki but no luck so far
full badger
@cosmic belfry
Going by what it says here, since you have to place a freehold in the zone of influence of a node, and each freehold requires a minimum amount of space, you can only have so many freeholds in existance
cosmic belfry
ok so no specifics but mention of limitations then. good enough thanks 🙂
tulip hatch
Yes its currently based on the amount of room in the open world within that zoi
ruby swift
Since node borders are not all the same size, there would be variation on any number they gave. So no number given.
ZOI also follows natural terrain features of "wrap-around"
There is not a space where you will move in to do something and no node will get that experience.[6] – Steven Sharif
meager ferry
is there a place that lists all the goodies kickstarters get?
I only learned of the wand of everything today
kinda want to know what else I don't know about
meager ferry
yea im reading https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Kickstarter
but if you search for wand of everything
its not there
so was wondering where that would be listed
lean marlin
It sounds similar to the Wabbajack from TES. But that's all I could find pertaining to it.
meager ferry
oh i know what it does
i just wondered if there was a central list for backers to look at all the rewards they get on game launch
and while there's a list for a majority of things, it seems a few things aren't on that list
onyx knoll
It was from the summer crowdfunding campain, not the kickstarter
meager ferry
ye, even in the first line its an extension of the kickstarter
so the freebies are extended to kickstarters
onyx knoll
I'm not sure what your question is... The wand isnt on the wiki's default kickstarter page because it was part of the summer backers campain
If you backed the game and you want to know what you'll have at game launch then you should have an email from kickstarter with a code to redeem on the intrepid website
meager ferry
Yea, sorry I wasn't clear earlier. I'm a Braver backer, I was just looking for a list of everything that entailed in one central location.
Yea, that's what I meant, the stretch rewards
meager ferry
Between the normal Kickstarter page and the summer backer page, I see most things
But like I said earlier, I only found out about the wand of many things today
So I was wondering if there was more i didn't know about
Rip, that's what I thought but wanted to be sure
Ah well, guess it'll be fun surprises
hidden urchin
Can you connect a freehold to a roadway or does it have to be a good distance away?
onyx knoll
as far as we know currently, they need to be a certain distance away, but we don't know what that distance is.
visual locust
I am also curious about freeholds, like if 10000 people play on a server and they all have a freehold on that server. Will there be 10000 buildings in the open worlds owned by players? Or is it like in some sort of realm?
tulip hatch
Freeholds are open world so you will physically see where someone lives
Apartments are instanced
In node housing is static and limited inside the city
visual locust
So that means there will be 10000 (in my example) freeholds in the open world?
tulip hatch
Yes
visual locust
Would that even fit hahahah?
tulip hatch
The freeholds are restricted by space and there are some conditions for placements
But as long as there's room then yes
spiral pine
the open world is huge so there should be space
lusty kite
Yes, the world is huge and there will be plenty of room. Here is a little math. Size of world is about 480 square kilometers (land and water) and you have another 100 square kilometers in Underrealm potentially. 1 freehold plot is about 1/2 acre. 10,000 freehold plots = 20.23 square kilometers, this would leave about 460 square kilometers above ground for everything (cities, roads, dungeons, lands, water,etc).
dull shell
Getting flashbacks of Animal Crossing, "Your house is too close to a cliff", just uneven ground!
woeful notch
do we know whats going to be discussed in the Dev update?
full badger
Nope, we won't know until they announce it.
full badger
@woeful notch I'm not sure what you mean. They work exactly as you'd expect, with anyone able to walk into them at any time
woeful notch
but like does the loot and mobs reset after a certain amount of time? or do they only reset if someone succesfully clears it
dark jungle
mobs and bosses respawn in open world dungeons, just like they respawn in other open world locations
in other words bosses and mobs don't stay dead until you clear the entire dungeon as per instanced dungeons
patent pier
Do we have any new info on the CC program?
potent thunderBOT
patent pier
Thanks!
steady ocean
Toast and Maggie have mentioned they hope to roll out some new information during the ramp up to Alpha 1 @patent pier
patent pier
Thanks @steady ocean ❤️
neon rapids
I saw someone mention Apartments within the discussion of Freeholds... Would a player be able to build/own/operate an inn? Maybe providing respawn points for other players?
steady ocean
You can build a tavern on your freehold, yes. Not sure on the respawn point.
oak depot
We don't know about Inns @neon rapids . We actually don't know the difference between an Inn and a Tavern for sure. We speculate that Inns are NPC owned/ran and Tavern's are Player, but we just don't know.
neon rapids
Ohhhhhhh I see. Tavern would be fun. But I wonder if it's just cosmetic or if you could sell things out of it. Thanks, @oak depot @steady ocean
I need to get more active in this community. There's just so much going on in the chat channels to keep up with when working full time D:
oak depot
@neon rapids Taverns we know a bunch about. You, as a Tavern owner, can do a bunch of stuff, including Players will be able to buy food and drink from a Tavern, some of which will be supplied by the tavern owner or other patrons that they get their menu from. These consumables will offer tangible benefits to players that stay within a certain proximity of the tavern itself
see here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Taverns
neon rapids
Ohhhhh very cool, thank you!
woeful notch
i really hope that the whole tavern/food stall thing is pulled off well. cause that seems like a really cool aspect
cosmic vale
What's the cheapest option to get access to A1/A2, and how long will the alphas be up for? If A2 is gonna be up for super long, then it's basically just a complete game, right? I understand the release version will be adding a ton more, but from what I understand, it sounds like the alphas will be playable for fun, not just to gather data for the devs.
hidden urchin
I assume having the tavern consumable buffs wear off based on proximity to the tavern is an economical decision? So you cannot buy X amount of consumables from the tavern and resell them in a city? You have to go to that specific tavern to receive that specific buff you want. Also, since tavern owners can get supplies from "other patrons" does this imply the existence of monetary contracts?
@cosmic vale Can't get A1 access anymore. You can find the price to get A2 here: https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop The release schedule is here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
woeful notch
would be interesting if people can create and name their own drinks, based on the rarity/quality of ingredients put in will change how strong the buffs are
stable plover
@cosmic vale 250$ is the current cheapest A2 package, A1 isn't currently sold but Intrepid is giving out some A1 keys during their extra life livestream coming up. We don't know how long A2 will last in terms of months, but once A2 starts it will run until launch (when it then becomes the test server) and people with A2 access can choose to play on the A2 server or the B1/B2 server when those are active, A2 being the only test that's 24/7 (minus any needed maintenance), A2 will be lacking features of the full launch game especially at the start, and have many bugs, but can basically be played like a live game -- The devs have been providing goals for what they want tested in different test sessions and I would expect that to continue (This week on the A2 server let's really hit X dungeon, See if you can exploit the boss mechanics, see how fast you can run it, etc. - They'll still take feedback on if quest Y is broken if you kill it's mob too fast, but they do have goals for the testing in mind <-- Wild examples, notably A2 isn't going to be running until at least sometime after the announced A1 testing)
hidden urchin
has there been any update on whether ashes will be either SLI compatible or crossfire compatible?
cosmic vale
Is there a sort of content creator program for this game? I'm beginning a youtube channel, and I would love to make content on this
spiral pine
there is one in the works
round ridge
it's 10 lines up
cosmic vale
oh whoops lol
celest moat
how strict is the nda? what kind of content will be out there in December/February (if any)?
glad sleet
nda means they cant say anything about it. only content you will see will be streamed by intrepid
celest moat
nda means they cant say anything about it. only content you will see will be streamed by intrepid
@glad sleet Do you mean that only intrepid will stream during the dec/feb alfa1 prevew?
glad sleet
If that
desert ivy
NDA means people who are in it cannot talk at all about it. They can't talk about it, can't share images, can't share videos, can't even say "oh I like the look of the grass in the starting area"
celest moat
Only Intrepid can stream until March
@simple ether hope they will
pulsar sonnet
If testers record vids of both Dec/Feb testing phases, can they release them when the NDA is lifted?
Or is it retroactive
glad sleet
Retroactive
pulsar sonnet
Oh ok. Should we expect the game to change much during A1 anyway?
@simple ether are you streaming today?
I did not think it was going to change a lot, more between A1 and A2
oak depot
I agree, it won’t change during the 4-day or one week Alpha periods, but expect it to change a lot in between the alpha periods. The one month period is more likely to have live changes
unkempt blade
This might be a weird question, but do you guys have a privacy policy or something???
unkempt blade
sick, thanks!
stable plover
@unkempt blade https://ashesofcreation.com/privacy
unkempt blade
👍
round belfry
hearty dragon
Will there be scaled levels for monsters or will you have areas that will be specific level oriented?
desert ivy
There's no scaling for monsters
ruby swift
Nodes have a mix of mobs. You can find easy to impossible in a zone for your current level.
As a node gains in level the spawn tables adjust to reflect the level of the node, but there is always a range. For example, you may have level 4 bandits in a level 1 node at a certain location, once the node levels to 2, those same mobs now have casters and are level 12. While in other locations in the node, other mobs have disappeared and others have taken their place.
novel patio
will there be cutscenes for a node level up?
worthy zinc
Any upcoming information on class designs? Im curious to see how the bards play out
broken sage
Are there gonna be Safe zones for example cities or at least respawn points?
raven reef
I’m currently building a PC in anticipation for this game. I saw on the faq that they don’t plan on releasing on steam so how would one get the game? Also would Ryzen 7 3700x w/ Rx 5700xt graphics card be plenty to play this game at high quality non 4K? Obviously it’s not out but debating on if my Gpu will be good enough?
woven vale
@broken sage I believe the only safe zone is housing
@raven reef They will release on their own launcher
Specs we'll have no idea until release but rec is 1060 I believe for alpha
raven reef
@woven vale thanks! Off hand do you know if I would be on par with the 1060 or above? Amd is a launcher like a website you launch from of a browser like google chrome? Sorry illiterate when it comes to PC world haha
woven vale
I don't know my Ryzen's as good as my intel/nvidia so I'll try to bring @tidal kindle in here.
"Amd is a launcher like a website you launch from of a browser like google chrome? Sorry illiterate when it comes to PC world haha"
Also could you clarify what you're asking here.
Sorry that is and*
Read that as AMD the company
The launcher will be like steam/blizzard/origin, but it'll only have ashes and will likely have less features but this allows intrepid the full cut (aside from epic's cut for UE4) @raven reef
raven reef
Perfect exactly what I needed thanks
lucid compass
Quick question
How the Music system Will be in aoc
Is it gona be simular to aa, where You can write it your self and play?
My friend is Very interested in that part. 🤣
tidal kindle
@woven vale not sure what you mean it works like any other windows pc its pretty much the same as having intel and nvidia... the control center for the gpu is a little different
woven vale
Nah im talking on his specs @tidal kindle
"Also would Ryzen 7 3700x w/ Rx 5700xt graphics card be plenty to play this game at high quality non 4K?"
tidal kindle
probably yes
woven vale
@raven reef Answer from Zonned.
tidal kindle
though i wouldn't buy a 5700xt
raven reef
Why would that be
tidal kindle
unless you already have one
raven reef
No I don’t haha
raven reef
Is that going to be around $400-$500?